Fundamentalist Heresy w/ The New IFB
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- In this video, I highlight the double talk of those who proclaim faith alone, only to contradict themselves by asserting that a believer needs to ask to be saved.
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And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. Mark 7:9
Jack Hyles on the subject:
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I wonder what would they tell someone who is physically disabled and unable to speak?
@@Greg8098 Oooh good or someone who is deaf
1 John 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
@@goodshorts is this good for me to believe after we are saved we should be changing but not everyone does like I believe that the Holy Spirit will help us to change but some people sadly ignore that and continue on sinning without trying to stop that doesn’t mean they aren’t saved they could be but I’m just saying but I believe when someone is saved they probably should be changing but they don’t always
The sacrifice of Christ benefits all truly repentant sinners who have sincere faith and trust in Christ, but this benefit is conferred as God automatically baptizes all true believers in the Holy Spirit, which places them "into" the Body of Christ (1Cor.12:13) and that "Body" is the Church (Eph.1:22,23), with the result that all believers are "IN Christ" (2Cor.5:17). Being "in Christ" is the place of justification (Gal.2:17), redemption and forgiveness of sins (Eph.1:7). What's more, Paul teaches that a person who is in the body of Christ, has died to the requirements and condemnation of the OT law (Rom. 7:4,6) and thus, anyone who is not in the body of Christ remains condemned by the law (Rom.2:12 ; Gal.3:10-11 ; Jas.2:10). There is no other place, than in Christ's body, for those spiritual transactions in the NT. It will only be people "in Christ" (and in his body), who have been crucified with him, who have died and been burried with him, and are made alive with him (read Rom.6:1-10). For anyone to be saved, God places Jews or Gentiles "in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross" (Eph.2:16)... and that one body of reconciliation is the Church (Eph.1:22-23). There will never be any other way to justification, reconciliation to God, redemption, resurrection and eternal life, than by being "IN Christ," which is in his body the Church ...and anything else is another way of salvation (and really, another gospel) than is found in the Bible. It would take some major explaining to tell how a person could be "in Christ" but not in his body (the Church). If the tribulation saints are not in Christ's body, then how are they saved? Consider especially verses like Romans 12:5, which says, "so in Christ we who are many form one body." Paul says explicitly there that being "in" Christ means being in his "body", and he uses those two ideas as being inseparable. Biblical Christianity can never advance any other way of justification and redemption, other than being "IN Christ."
So, the pre-trib notion of a group of "tribulation saints" who are saved and redeemed during the tribulation, but yet are not part of the body of Christ (the Church), is actually a contradiction in terms, which rests on very shabby theology that undermines the biblical doctrine of salvation. The true situation during the tribulation will be: there will be Spirit-baptized saints who are "washed ...in the blood of the Lamb" (Rev.7:14), so, they are blood-bought and justified saints; they will be born-again Christians "who obey God's commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus" (Rev.12:17), and who "remain faithful to Jesus" (Rev.14:12).
And very crucial for this discussion: note those saints who "die IN the Lord" during the Great Tribulation (see Rev.14:12-13 with 6:9-11) ...remembering from our previous discussion, that being "in the Lord," or "in Christ," is precisely the NT description of a believer who is part of the Church, the body of Christ!
Thus, there is no possible way that these tribulation "saints" can not part of the Church. They must be.
The corporate body of Christ first came into being when believers were first baptized in the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost (Acts 1:5 & 2:1-4). Since then, every true believer is automatically placed into the body of Christ by the Baptism in the Holy Spirit (1Cor.12:13), so that all believers are "in Christ" (and this must since the Acts 2 day of Pentecost include all Old Testament saints, as well as tribulation saints). Redemptive union with Christ, in his body (the Church), has always been God's plan for all believers of all ages. Paul says that Jesus is the Savior of "his body" (Eph.5:23), and it would take some major explaining to show that he is the Savior of anybody else. Anybody who is not part of the body of Christ, therefore, will not be saved. Jew or Gentile, there is no other provision in all of eternity for the salvation of sinners other than by being in the body of Christ. So, unavoidably, since there are saved people on earth during the tribulation, the body of Christ, the Church, must be present on earth at that time.
Since the "Church" is clearly on earth during the Tribulation, there is no reason to say that the Church is evacuated just before the Tribulation begins.
Obviously, those who "die in the Lord" during the tribulation will be part of Christ's body, the Church, and they too (like all who are in Christ) will rise at the first resurrection and be raptured (1 Thess.4:16-18). Thus, the rapture must follow the tribulation, during which those tribulation saints "die IN the Lord."
Gal 1 8-9
This is crazy!, I have been struggling with this verse all day!, and I LITERALLY went in you tube and saw this video!, I thanked the lord and now I'm thanking you.....What a coincidence!.....or was it 🤔.....thankyou brother, god bless xx
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Thankyou brother
romans9-11 is about israel they needed to confess jesus was the messiah.... ephesians 2:8-9 is for the church which is his body
Funny how my comments are being deleted... About another video by Pastor Jiménez explaining this issue as well...
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What about a mute person? I guess they can’t be saved since they can’t call. No sir
They have no chance to get saved according to the heresy calling with the mouth is a must to be born again. We know only believe is enough, so we must keep on preaching the simple gospel. God bless !
The mute call upon with their heart. Even if farsg goes on Romans road the ABCs of salvation. Barry Scarborough back him. Admit your a sinner in need of a savior. Believe upon the redemptive work of Christ Jesus. And c full upon his name. It's a life changing
@@mikalstanley10 The bible says this specific calling is with the mouth. And whosoever believes on Jesus for eternal life is saved. Period ! God bless you !
@@haitiancreoleforforeigner9224 Such brainwashed people you are
just hearing from one side, how about hearing both sides and presenting that both are true and stop interpreting a context of "physical salvation" although its never mentioned leading up from the end of Romans 9 zu Romans 10 and just accepting the bible?
If you really believe you will call and if you die before you could call you still in heaven, thats what the NIFB believes, just watch the sermon of Jimenez, he does not even believe you need to move your mouth so stop asuming this crap and damning people into hell who actually brought forth true fruits
hair splitting, nothing more
I guess they'd just have to communicate it somehow. 🤷
That last clip in this video brought to mind how I was before I matured in Gods Word. If a believer has doubts they need to spend more time in the Word and I promise all doubts will go away. Our promise of salvation is rock solid and repeated throughout Pauls epistles! God bless you brothers and sisters.
Wise words I need to take your advice
Amen!
The last clip the man refers to his childhood through adolescence. Some context would be appropriate with this one.
I am so glad you are exposing this false teaching! I tried to warn people about this false teaching a couple of years ago. I had a sermon preached against me, called horrible things, and lost friends. Keep preaching the truth brother!!
OSAS is false, both norman and steven are leading people straight to hell. Repent of sins, keep the commandments, endure to the end.
The "V" was most likely the MOTB, same with the nose test, just a heads up
can some one that has eternal security still love the world? WHEN THE FATHER SAYS IF YOU LOVE THE THINGS OF THE WORLD The love of God is not in you. I do believe grace BUT I STILL HAVE Qs...
@@theodoreritola7641 “Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things SHALL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD.”
Galatians 5:19-21 KJV
“Now this I say, brethren, that FLESH and blood CANNOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.”
1 Corinthians 15:50 KJV
Our flesh is corrupt and cannot inherit the kingdom of God. This is why we must be born again. We can all be found somewhere in that list.
“For ALL have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
Romans 3:23 KJV
The moment we believe the gospel we are born of the Spirit. We receive God’s perfect Spirit which cannot sin.
We still have our old man, our flesh which dwells no good thing and does not inherit the kingdom of God.
When we sin it’s our flesh, our old man. Our old man will sin until the day our physical life ends.
“Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
For I know that in me (that is, in my FLESH,) dwelleth NO good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.”
Romans 7:17-18 KJV
“That which is born of the FLESH is FLESH; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born AGAIN.”
John 3:6-7 KJV
“Whosoever is born of God doth NOT commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he CANNOT sin, because he is BORN of God.”
1 John 3:9 KJV
The moment a person believes on Jesus Christ they become a new creature, the new man. Our new man can not sin. Notice it doesn’t say somethings are passed away. It doesn’t say a person will change and slowly become better. It says ALL things are passed away.
“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a NEW creature: old things are passed away; behold, ALL things are become new.”
2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV
The moment a person believes they are no longer defended as a sinner. They have been washed, sanctified, and justified because of the blood of Jesus Christ.
“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
And such were some of you: but ye are WASHED, but ye are SANCTIFIED, but ye are JUSTIFIED in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.”
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 KJV
“But to him that worketh NOT, but believeth on him that JUSTIFIETH the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”
Romans 4:5 KJV
“But the FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.”
Galatians 5:22-23 KJV
Our new spirit is constantly producing the fruits of the Spirit because it’s the righteousness of Jesus Christ. It’s not that you are automatically going to see these things in a person’s life after salvation. 🍍🍎🍐🍊🍋🍉🍇🍌🍇🫐🍒🥝
“Being filled with the FRUITS of righteousness, which are by JESUS CHRIST, unto the glory and praise of God.”
Philippians 1:11 KJV
If you look to your life or the life of others to determine if a person is saved there will never be assurance of salvation because our flesh sins daily.
@@theodoreritola7641 The book of 1 John takes us back to the beginning with Cain and Abel.
“For this is the message that ye heard from the BEGINNING, that we should love one another.
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.”
1 John 3:11-12 KJV
Why did Cain hate his brother? What was righteous about Abel’s works?
“And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the FRUIT of the ground an offering unto the Lord.
And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his FLOCK and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:
But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.”
Genesis 4:3-5 KJV 🍏 🩸
Cain brought the fruit of his labor, the fruit produced from his work of tilling the ground.
Abel brought the animal sacrifice which represents the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
Cain hated Abel because his brother’s offering was accepted and his own rejected by God.
You will find when you believe on the sacrifice of Jesus Christ as the payment for your sins you will hated by the self righteous.
The cross offends the self righteous because it reminds them that their hard work will never be good enough to save them from hell.
It’s only the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross, his blood that can save a man!
“And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the OFFENCE of the CROSS ceased.”
Galatians 5:11 KJV
When we believe the gospel we automatically love the brethren because we love that they are also saved by the blood of Jesus Christ.
The false brethren hate the truth of the gospel that anyone is saved by simply believing the gospel.
“But he that HATETH his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.”
1 John 2:11 KJV
“But if we walk in the LIGHT, as he is in the light, we have fellowship ONE WITH ANOTHER, and the BLOOD of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.”
1 John 1:7 KJV
To walk in the light is to believe the gospel. Jesus Christ is the light. To believe the gospel of peace that gives us peace with God.
“To give LIGHT to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of PEACE.”
Luke 1:79 KJV
The book of 1 John gives us assurance that we are saved because we have believed on Jesus Christ. This book is not telling people to determine if they are saved or not by looking at their works.
“He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.”
1 John 2:4 KJV
What are the commandments John is speaking of?
“And this is his commandment, That we should BELIEVE on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.”
1 John 3:23 KJV
“These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE ON THE NAME OF THE SON OF GOD; that ye may KNOW that ye have eternal life, and that ye may BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God.”
1 John 5:13 KJV
The moment we believe the gospel we have fellowship with Jesus Christ and with all the saints. Fellowship is not a lifestyle, it’s what we receive the moment we believe.
“That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have FELLOWSHIP with us: and truly our FELLOWSHIP is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.”
1 John 1:3 KJV
“For your FELLOWSHIP in the gospel from the first day until now;”
Philippians 1:3
“If there be therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any FELLOWSHIP of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies,”
Philippians 2:1
“God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the FELLOWSHIP of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.”
1 Corinthians 1:9 KJV
Be of good cheer our sins have been forgiven! It’s the righteousness of Jesus Christ!
“And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their FAITH said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of GOOD CHEER; thy sins be FORGIVEN thee.”
Matthew 9:2 KJV
Stay strong 💪
All your videos have answered so many of my questions. Thank you Lord for Onorato's youtube channel!!!🙏🏼God Bless you.
Pastor Curtis Hutson wisely said: "A good rule to follow when interpreting the Bible is to never use an obscure passage to contradict a clear one." Yes, that is correct! It is terrible that many of these New IFB preachers are basing a strange doctrine on ONE VERSE (Romans 10;13), while totally ignoring the entire Gospel of John. In John we find the word "believe" mentioned 85 times without any mention of "praying." You don't have to pray to be saved. John 6;28-29, "Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent." You just read it: BELIEVE ON HIM!!! Great job preaching the truth Norm. God bless you!
Well said
John 4:10
“Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.”
I'm saved by grace the moment I believe Jesus Christ died for my sins and promise me eternal life in heaven osas. So simple a child can understand it
Yep amen!!
Thats why God made it that way ...
Exactly, been saved years but also lived in anxiety and depression for decadecades until I finally believed in Jesus Christ alone for eternal life, i had it backwards thinking I could lose salvation.
That last clip of Steven Anderson shows the damage that the "Sinner's Prayer" causes. It gets you to look to your prayer instead of faith.
Exactly. Amen!
Amen! A different gospel for sure.
Retarded Hair Splitting
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I frequently do pray or say in my heart thank you Jesus that I am saved for believing what you did for me on the cross and rose again.
That’s a good thing
You can believe until your face turns blue, without obedience to Christ and his teachings and commandments you will not go to heaven. Hebrews 5:9, sins that lead christians to hell: Galatians 5:19-21 & rev 21:8
@@sneediusrexius You can preach works for salvation until you are blue, but that is not going to save someone if they don't believe Jesus fulfilled the law and paid for your sins. Believing will not turn my face blue.
@@EmileKleinhans Only those who keep the commandments and repent of sins go to heaven. You can call that works, good, read the letters to churches in revelation. If your WORKS arent found to keep Jesus expectations, he takes your lampstand away.
Christians who do these sins will not inherit the kingdom of God, straight from Pauls mouth: Galatians 5:19-21
Christian liars will have their part in the lake of fire Revelation 21:8 & Revelation 22:15
Christians who keep the commandments are those who get to enter into the Kingdom and partake in the tree of life Revelation 22:14
Jesus is the author of salvation to those who OBEY HIM Hebrews 5:9
Jesus cuts people of from him and they wither and collected to be burned John 15:6
Jesus said MAKE EVERY EFFORT (work!) to enter through the narrow gate.
Jesus spews lukewarm believers out in Rev 3:16, Jesus cuts sinning lazy christians in half and throws them into hell Luke 12:45-47.
Why can you not see the true doctrine, aka Fear God, keep his commandments and stop sinning?
Because you are given over to a strong delusion because you dont love the harsh truth which requires you to give up your life to follow Jesus diligently and obey him, and prefer ear tickling lies: 2 thess 2:11& 2 tim 4:3-4
Also the MOTB is already here, its the "V" and the nosey poke. I cant write it here plainly because it gets removed.
@@sneediusrexiuswe have another “repent of sins” work Salvationist here 🙄 if you have to repent of your sins, Jesus died in vein. Stop taking away his glory.
Another blessing from the Holy Word of God. Thank you my brother in Christ. Someone should seriously send this video to that guy, Praise the Lord...
Corbin is a narcissist. He won’t listen to anything anyone has to say he will act like he is the dominant one. he’s an idiot , not saved
Love your videos brother. I’ve been saved since I was 9, and throughout the years I strayed and then when God drew me back closer to him I got caught up in a lot of doubt because of Lordship preachers but I’ve rediscovered a love for sharing the true gospel of grace through faith alone. It makes me question when I was saved, but when I was 9 I remember a preacher asking me if I wanted to accept the Lord Jesus to go to heaven, I felt the Holy Spirit bringing me to repentance and place my faith and accept Jesus, so I did, and I was baptized. But years after you would not think I was by looking at my fruit. Even now the enemy makes me want to doubt my salvation because I’m now “rediscovering” how simple the gospel is, and if I’m rediscovering that, then I just have never known the true gospel right? It’s a scary thought thinking that you’ve been deceived into believing you’ve been saved for so many years. But no, when I look back I know God was always with me, I felt the conviction of the Holy Spirit but ignored and grieved him until God brought me on my knees with chastisement. Jesus tells us to have the faith of children, you don’t have to understand everything, so then I understood if you want to get to heaven, understand that Jesus died for your sins, was buried, and resurrected. But now I understand a lot of the deeper doctrine of blood atonement, etc. I wasn’t any less saved at 9 than I am now, if anything that’s proof of the Holy Spirit working in me and leading me into all truth. These pastors muddy the waters so much, they’re almost as bad as straight up Lordshippers
Awesome to hear! Make the message CLEAR and PLAIN! 🙌🏼
That's a good point actually now i understand more of what child like faith Is now. Is knowing the basic level the gospel. The deeper stuff can come later when your older and can understand better. Just because you have a deeper understanding of the gospel later on in life does not make you any less saved
Dude isn’t changing my mind!! He’s going from grace to legalism!
Ono Diamante or the NIFB pastors?
@@Rakotino of course the nifb pastor. Ono dimante is completely grace nothing else.
Yeah, I fell into the trap of praying a sinner's prayer as a means to make sure I am saved. And it's probably because I was scared into it enough by those who say that just believing in Christ isn't enough. But then I realized later that just making a conscious decision to except Salvation as a free gift for believing in Him and what he did and accomplished is what was enough to save me, putting my faith in the one who justifies the ungodly while having little to no works, according to Romans 4:4-5.
OSAS is a false doctrine. Christians who practice the sins listed in Galatians 5:19-21 & Revelation 21:8 will go to hell. Christians must keep the commandments and work out their salvation with fear and trembling.
True christians have testimonies of when they were born again, which is a spiritual experience beyond any denial.
I just got saved I fell for the trap you
I just don’t understand how people can live any other way! If you really sit down and analyze your life honestly, nothing else apart from GRACE BY FAITH makes any sense! Without Jesus’ sacrifice FULLY saving us, we’d all be hell bound!
They're either puffed up by ego/pride or sociopaths.
Wow I had learned of the gospel from the NIFB and I followed them for awhile but after I found they taught this I immediately knew they where going absolutely bonkers. And I remember hearing Anderson say he would pray again and since I’ve been saved I have not felt the need to ask for salvation again because I believe Jesus’ promise and I already know he won’t lie. Before I knew how to be saved I would pray for God to save me again and again. Very weird.
@@goyetherefore603 that’s very thoughtful Wendy, very edifying , Thank’s for the salt to taste.
He was just a little kid. You guys are taking things way too far. Nothing wrong with what Anderson said.
@@PhantomNites Anderson is like 40 years old.
@@valkyrie9522 He’s 36 I believe, however it doesn’t matter his current age. He was telling a story about when he was 6 years old.
@@PhantomNites if you listen that’s not what he said, he said he has done it after as he was growing up just to be sure. And speaks of it like it’s something normal. Every one that understands and believes the gospel and eternal security I met realized they just had to trust God, and didn’t have to plead anymore. They have entered Jesus Christ’s rest.
Romans 10:9-15 seems to say that believing in Jesus AND confessing Him are required in order to be saved. This seems to contradict the many passages in the Bible that say that salvation is by grace through faith in Christ. Is confessing Christ (verses 9 and 10) required in order to receive eternal life?
Calling on the name of the Lord (verse 13)? Both?
No. The Bible says repeatedly that whoever believes in Jesus Christ as Savior has eternal life.
The confusion comes from the errant assumption that the word “saved” in the Bible always refers to receiving eternal life. There are many places in the Bible (such as Romans 10:9-15, Matthew 10:22 and James 5:20) in which the word “saved” has nothing to do with receiving eternal life.
Why would God park additional requirements for receiving eternal life in the middle of Romans, and fail to mention them anywhere else in scripture?
We know that confessing Christ is not required in order to receive eternal life from John 12:42-43...
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue: For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God."
Here, we can see that these men believed on Him (Jesus Christ), which always results in eternal life. But, they did not confess Him.
In Romans 10:10, we see that someone believes unto righteousness. That means he is declared not guilty of his sins. He has eternal life from that moment on. He is not required to confess Christ in order to receive eternal life again. So, the words “saved” and “salvation” in this passage clearly cannot have to do with receiving eternal life.
Once someone has received eternal life, by grace, through faith in Christ alone, he may confess Christ and pray to God for deliverance from trials, temptations, physical danger, etc. But, neither confessing Christ nor calling on the name of the Lord is required to receive eternal life.
We see this same concept in Romans 10:13-15, in which the Apostle Paul speaks of this process, rhetorically, in reverse order.
Here is the chronological order:
1. A preacher is sent - verse 15 (except they be sent)
2. He preaches - verse 15 (how shall they preach)
3. The unbeliever hears - verse14 (how shall they hear)
4. The hearer believes, and is therein justified - verse 14 (how shall they believe)
5, The believer calls on the name of the Lord - verse 14 (how then shall they call on him)
One does not receive eternal life through faith in Christ and any additional conditions, such as confessing Christ or calling on the name of the Lord. One receives eternal life by grace through faith in Christ alone.
Amen, brother! Great comment!
@@jeffrachelburkhalter3783 wrong.
I have been saved the moment I believed the gospel while listening to a sermon on the 25th of February 2022. The pastor then led the people into a prayer which I also repeated but I was thinking the whole time during the prayer "what I am I doing, this is useless, my prayer doesn't change anything about me being saved or not. Jesus died for me and me uttering a few words don't contribute anything at all to the work of Jesus on the cross".
Now the "confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus" is for me just a confession that you make that Jesus Christ is Lord and every believer will sooner or later say " Lord Jesus..." So if you believe then you're saved, period. We humans just like to pick on these little details and make everything too complicated. God is so much greater than we are but very simple in his ways to commune with us maybe too simple....
Amen I keep saying we can be " saved" from more than damnation. Great preaching!
Hi Renee! Love you sister!
I wonder if all 7 of them will preach “Norm Diamante Exposed” next week.
This guy sounds like he’s just standing up there doing his best impersonation of the most blatantly PROUD pastor you will find anywhere: Steven Anderson.
He (Anderson) is so completely puffed up and blinded with pride in his church (the church he started and built) that he is gone to an island of his own arrogance and refuses to hear any instruction and vehemently goes on the attack against any perceived challenge or instruction.
His church’s love has grown cold, if it ever had any.
Yes I feel the same. Many do feel this way.
Wild acusation without proof.
1. Define in what way he is "Puffed up"? which arrogance exactly?
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2. Did he actually attack him per Name or was it other people?
3. Is he responsible for the INDEPENDANT Churches he funded?
4. " if it ever had any" You personally know his church? All members?
He only "arrogant" thing I found is your whole message based on assumptions
Nowhere in the Bible does it say you must "ask" God to save you. Not even Romans 10 says that.
These guys are just defending their unbiblical method of soul-winning. Instead of repenting, they're just digging in their heels.
OSAS is false
Congratulations, brother ! I always learn sth new with you ! Keep on preaching the good news !
Amen brother Norm, great video. Salvation is not by prayer, or by asking, or by calling. Salvation is simply by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ (Faith Alone in Christ Alone). Keep up the good work, brother. May our good Lord Jesus Christ and His word, the blessed King James Holy Bible be glorified. Godspeed!
177Jeremiah7
What you say is not true according to the Bible. For example in Luke 18:13 "the publican"
directly asked God to save him and in verse Luke 18:14 God answers his prayer by saving him.
So according to your theory there is something wrong with the publican praying to God for
salvation while at the same time believing on Jesus as Savior? Because this man prayed it
negates his salvation? Quote "Salvation is simply by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ"
that is true, but the Bible doesn't say that there is something wrong with asking God to save you.
Luke 18: 13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
@@mbfrommb3699
Greetings MB: Quote from you. "I don't think anyone is saying that it's "wrong" to pray, call,
or vocally express after one believes in Jesus." That is not my point, I am talking about
salvation, not what a person does after salvation.
I provided an example from the Bible that proves that "Diamante" understanding of this
subject is not correct. My point is simultaneously asking Jesus to save and believing on
Jesus to save is perfectly acceptable to God, such as in the example of the Publican.
Luke 18: 13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven,
but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that
exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
@@mbfrommb3699
Greetings MB:
The speaker in this video apparently deleted my response because I revealed that his
teaching is not correct. Asking Jesus to save is not a requirement neither is it to
be rejected, as it is not adding something to salvation. (Their is nothing wrong with it ).
The Publican's way of coming to God was simultaneously asking Jesus to save and
believing on Jesus to save which is perfectly acceptable to God.
Luke 18:13-14 proves this truth.
Luke 18: 13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his
eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for
every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself
shall be exalted.
@@mbfrommb3699
You need to watch the video again, the video author is making fun of people who ask Jesus
to save them. Obviously this is false according to Luke 18:13-14. Just because the Publican
asks Jesus to save him does not make it a requirement or mean that there is anything wrong with it. Consult the full council of the Bibles' salvation verses to understand salvation requirements.
Read Part 2 What is the Gospel of Christ
Part 2 What is the Gospel of Christ?
The Prophet Isaiah wrote about the true Gospel given to him by God in the book of Isaiah. The Book of Isaiah was written between 701 and 681 B.C.
God was manifest in the flesh with the miraculous virgin birth of Jesus Christ
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Jesus made peace through the blood of his cross. The chastisement of our peace was upon him.
Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
Colossians 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Jesus fulfilled this prophesy by His death on the cross, burial and resurrection There were many eyewitnesses to Jesus death on the cross and resurrection.
1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: 6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. 7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
Jesus is the Christ the Eternal Son of God
John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Salvation is the gift of God received by grace through faith, not by our works.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Salvation is completely relying on the redemptive work of Jesus Christ as the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Salvation is trusting in God’s promises, trusting in his dear Son
John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Salvation is in Christ alone
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Salvation is received by trusting in Jesus as your Saviour; believing the gospel of Christ
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
The beautiful saving gospel of Christ (Salvation from sin and Eternal Death)
Summary: Trust in Jesus Christ as your Savior (Trust in His sacrifice on your behalf, shedding His blood on the cross and dying for your sins. Trust that Jesus' sacrifice paid the full price for your sins. Believe that Jesus is the Eternal Son of God who was buried and rose again the third day according to the scripture proving that His sacrifice was accepted by God.
The book of Romans was for believers only. The book of John is for the message for unbelievers to hear and believe the saving message. Amen God Bless
Amen! That is 100% true brother!
Yes 👍, it's in the book of John where we clearly see that God distinguishes only between believers and non believers 3:18 and 3:36.
Now, with the Rom.10 heresy, is it confessors or non confessors, callers or non callers? Maybe it's heart or non heart. It could be believe on the Lord Jesus Christ except Rom.10 somehow makes some evangelists want to say Believe on Jesus as your Lord and Savior. 🤔
Thank God someone exposed this issue with these pharasiees!
'Calling to be saved' is just another 'sinner's prayer' heresy. You receive salvation/eternal life by simply believing the gospel. Think about it. How then is a mute person supposed to get saved since they can't speak? I guess Heaven is off the table for them. Wake up people. Anderson has it wrong.
Amen. It's just another work that people trust in. Whether it's confession, prayer, asking, baptism etc. Trusting in something they did.
I deleted Steven Anderson's (the NIFB guy) website bookmark from my computer after seeing how he viciously attacks other free grace preachers if they don't follow HIS every jot and tittle.
ruclips.net/user/shortsvRwhipR__Gg
I guess you are wrong
@@JJ1802 Um no, you can check my computer bookmarks...it's gone. Never to return. Gonzo. Outta here. Adios Amigos. Bye Bye Stevie.
@@PlaidRicky1611 I mean that part is true I guess but they are a category of free grace
@@JJ1802 Yes, I appreciate that S.A. is a free gracer but by his attacks on other free grace preachers he demonstrates an unchristian-like prideful arrogance if they are not observing "his" manners in lockstep. He doesn't need to get downright ugly about it. I would agree with Anderson's rant if he can show me in scripture where it says 'you MUST pray to be saved'. If anyone can show me where God says that,..then I guess it's true that simply believing on the Lord Jesus Christ is not enough. It would mean that there's something missing from Acts 16:31 and the more than one hundred times the gospel and epistles of John tell us that believing IS enough. I don't mean to sound too critical, but it seems Steven and his followers want to "correct" what the Bible says.
Amen. I stopped watching these NIFB guys when I saw how they turned on pastor McMurtry. It’s so easy for these guys to turn on their own and speak evil against their brothers and sisters in Christ.
Another one!
🤦🏼♂️
Correction .. two of them?!
I’ve been saying these things have even infiltrated the Independent Baptist churches. Matter of fact, it’s practically a “tradition” in the IFB community.
Good work man, appreciate this video.
Steveen Anderson has lost it believe with thy heart Jesus is Lord and confession unto salvation has nothing to do with being born again child of God that you become the moment you believe Jesus Christ alone for eternal life the gospel.
OSAS is false, repent of sins or go to hell
He’s been losing it since 2006.
Amen. Paul by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit wrote ROM. 10: 9-13. However, Paul in Acts 16:30,31 when asked by the jailer, what must I do to be saved, replied Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved and thy house. Then in verse 34 we read that the jailer rejoiced " believing" in God with all his house. It seems evident to me that believing is the determining factor because it is the only factor.
You're right, there are so many places that talk about believing on Christ to be saved that don't mention anything about asking or calling. Yet I donno, reading Romans 10 and all the context there, I'm not seeing anything indicating a physical or temporal salvation there, I just don't see it. This salvation to me clearly looks in context to be about *eternal* salvation, doesn't it? Right from the first verse of the chapter? Wishing that Israel be *saved* yet Israel goes about to establish their own righteousness by the law? Isn't this about eternal salvation? Confession and calling out associated with salvation in this passage? Is confessing/asking necessary? or an optional/possible thing that just accompanies believing for salvation for some people? What *is* he saying in Romans 10? I don't know, I'm still not totally clear on this issue and I'd like to clear it up in my own mind. Any thoughts?
@@missiletoad7015 The point of my comment was to show that what many people see as something big and revealing Paul taught in Rom 10 concerning how to be saved, he only said Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved and thy house in Acts 16.
@@trentthompson2899 You're absolutely right that that is what Paul told the jailer, and he went believing with his house, all of that. I'm just trying to figure out what the Romans 10 passage is saying, what is the calling and confessing for, why does he mention that, what is that all about. It has to be something, I'm just not sure I'm clear on it.
@@missiletoad7015 I suppose you can narrow it down by the process of elimination. What I pointed out could be a first step. God bless!!!
This is so hypocritical. These people preach salvation by grace alone and faith in Christ, but they declare gays are all reprobates and can’t be saved no matter how much they beg or plead God to save them.
It's not possible that a homosexual could believe though. They have been given over to a reprobate mind. The new IFB, and the old IFB for that matter, are absolutely correct on this doctrine.
Amen!
Amen. This one is so much misunderstood and often used as part of the "ABC" of salvation. If this was a condition for salvation, then you would have more than one witness for that in scripture. But Romans 10 is the only place where you even find confession connected to salvation. It's mentioned nowhere else. Confession is a work, a physical act, therefore not necessary for salvation.
I agree that Praying is a work.
„Epaphras, who is one of you, a servant of Christ, saluteth you, always labouring fervently for you in prayers, that ye may stand perfect and complete in all the will of God.“
Colossians 4:12 KJV
Notice this:
“always labouring fervently for you in prayers”
@@hermano8873 I don't know though. Could this possibly mean working and serving and being prayerful when doing it? Whether you call it "prayer" or not, is it "work" to communicate to God to ask for a gift? To ask for the gift of eternal life? Is it no longer a "gift" if you ask for it?
John 4:10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the *gift* of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have *asked* of him, and he would have *given* thee living water.
And in Luke 18:11 "The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted."
The publican who asks/requests/says "God be merciful to me a sinner" is the one who went home justified.
In any case, I don't believe that if you asked God in faith to save you and give you eternal life, that he would deny it to you (or see you as a works salvationist) because you asked for it.
I donno, I'm just not quite clear on this or how to exactly parse it, you know what I mean?
@@missiletoad7015 if you ask him for it, that generally means you've already believed. But asking is not required. Believing is the only requirement. Eph 1:13 shows us we are sealed at the moment of belief. So adding a requirement to ask for it would contradict that verse.
glad I'm not that only one that noticed that verse!@@hermano8873
@@mikeha _"if you ask him for it, that generally means you've already believed."_
Kind of strange, though, since asking for it seems to be like saying to God that despite already having believed, you have not yet been saved. Which is to say to God that you were not saved through/at the moment of your belief.
_"Eph __1:13__ shows us we are sealed at the moment of belief."_
I think so too.
_"So adding a requirement to ask for it would contradict that verse."_
Asking Him for it would seem to contradict that verse, even. You are asking Him either 1) _"Give me what You already gave me and I already have,"_ or 2) _"Give me what You have not already given me, what I don't already have, what I still need."_
Well this is going to be fun 😄
It never made sense to me how vibrating your vocal chords in a certain way would be the final step in being saved.
I'm of the position that 'asking the lord to save you' is synonymous with believing the Gospel, and can happen 100% in the heart.
With the mouth confession is made unto salvation from the coming judgement in the Day of the Lord found in Joel and Acts (thank you for showing those).
Its crazy how these people read the Bible and don’t understand something as simple as this…
I remember at the end of a video by the Fort Worth TX Andersonite NIFB church Steadfast, saying something similar about confessing, praying a prayer kind of thing and I was so confused with his illustration. Sadly he was living a double life.
Ephesians 1:13
King James Version
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise
Maybe a good change would be a sinners thank you prayer? At the end just pray with them to thank God for salvation. Thoughts?
That actually makes sense.
I will offer to thee the sacrifice of thanksgiving, and will call upon the name of the LORD. Psalm 116:17
@@OnoDiamante I'm gonna start doing this myself when I go soulwinning.
How To Be Simply Saved.
1. The bad News. We are sinners. (Romans 3:23.)
We deserve to be punished in hell for our sins.
2. The Good News. Jesus Christ who is God’s Son died on the cross for all of your sins. He was buried & rose again to give you eternal life in heaven as a free gift. (1 Corinthians 15:3-4. Romans 6:23.)
3. How am I saved?
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. (Acts 16:31.)
4. Once saved, always saved.
Jesus said in John 6:47.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
Do you believe that you are saved by grace and promised heaven because Jesus died for you?
Yes_ No_.
I always think of this scenario, what if someone's in a vegetative state, and can't speak, but hear the gospel and believe? I believe God will save them if they die, than again he can also make them able to speak but yh
My friend's daughter was in a coma for about 19 years. My friend was saved during this time, and she believed that her daughter was, too. By hearing the word of God.
Excellent video- very clear presentation of the gospel! I never liked them NIFB guys.
Of course you don’t. You probably support 🇮🇱 and 🌈
I love what you’re doing, Norm. God bless you, brother.
Amen brother
The Romans 10 cult strikes again
They never read vs 14
Amen, God bless you brother Ed!
The forehead slapping part lol....
Thank you Onorato Diamante
What the NIFB are adding to FAITH is Prayer/Confession. Just like the "repent of your sins" crowd
Not everybody that’s says unto me Lord Lord shall enter the kingdom of Heaven didnt Jesus say that?😂😂😂 not everyone who says Jesus is lord is saved it’s by believing the gospel 1 Corinthians 15 not by our works Ephesians Galatians Titus 3:5
Excellent explanation. Thank you 😊
Thank you for this video. They are literally preaching a different Gospel. I think that Gal 1:7-8 has something to say about that.
100%! It's called prayeral regeneration! They're the New Martin Lutherians!
Excellent teaching and exposing the new IFB
OSAS is false. Repent of sins and keep the commandments or perish
@@sneediusrexius Nope you believe lies.
John 3:36
King James Version
36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
no one can keep the commandments
James 2:10
King James Version
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
You can only keep all the commandments if you are Jesus Christ. Are you Jesus Christ?
@@kM-ij2ly You are decieved and going to hell unless you come out of your strong delusion. You are probably not even called by God, since you believe these tare lies.
Believing means obeying in John 3:36. Hebrews 5:9 also shows that Jesus is the author of salvation to those who OBEY HIM.
And entire James 2 is telling you to keep the commandments. Its a pro-keep commandment chapter, but the apostate church has inverted it's meaning into lawlessness. James is telling you to keep the entire law. A human explanation of this verse is like:
"You are law abiding citizen who do not murder, commit adultury, or break traffic law, good, but if you then straight up rob a bank, you are a criminal, not a law abiding citizen".
The commandments were not impossible to keep in the Old testament, (PROOF: Deuteronomy 30:11-14)
and the commandments are not impossible to keep now either:
1 John 5:2-4
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his >>commandments are not burdensome.
Revelation 22:14 shows us only those who keep the commandments will be allowed into the Kingdom of God and eat of the fruit of life
So much confusion over things that are quite evident,everyone that gets saved will pray to God,it will come naturally.
True, seems like this guy just wants to try to prove someone wrong! Those NIFB Pastors do more work then most churches in the world and through their preaching is evident that God is using them! My question is where is this guys church or who is his Pastor? Because the church is evident in the Bible and having a Pastor is biblical also.
As much as I love Pastor Anderson, I have to agree with you.
Well, he also believes that gay people can't be saved. So.... Ya....
@@robertsandberg2246 I think he preaches hard against them because they're so tolerated now. It's important to recognize that it's a sin. He also lumps anyone that's gay as a reprobate, which I don't fully agree with but again I can see where he's coming from.
Romans 1:24~
@@Birdy890 Right. It is so tolerated now, which is wrong. The way he preaches though, it seems like he is saying that being gay is the unforgivable sin, which is not the case. Jesus is ready to forgive all who put their faith in Him.
@@robertsandberg2246 If you read the scripture I gave you you'd see that some people God himself gives up on. This is where the reprobate doctrine comes from, which I happen to agree with. I'm not saying every homosexual is a reprobate, but I've personally met many people that simply hate God, and the Bible says I should hate those people back. You can't love truth and lies at the same time.
Psalm 139:21-22
Personally I think Lukewarm worldly Christians are worse than hard preaching.
@@Birdy890 hate the sin not the sinner. Jesus was a friend to sinners.....so he could reach them
I have to admit, I am somewhat unclear on this issue. I do not believe that anyone who has simply believed on Christ alone to save them is not eternally saved.
I do not believe that if you were given the gospel and then verbally called out to God in faith to save you, that he would not save you because you called out for it.
I do not believe that if you asked in faith for God to save you that such a thing would be an attempt to be saved by works. (see the justified publican in Luke 18 as well as John 4:10 - Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the *gift* of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have *asked* of him, and he would have *given* thee living water).
I know we traditionally do like to say "faith alone" a lot in theological talk, but to be totally precise, I'm not aware of anywhere that actually states that salvation is "by faith alone" - one could say we are *also* saved by His grace, his mercy, his blood, etc. - but it does very clearly say it is by faith without ANY works we have done, and not by ANY of our works. I don't see that asking or calling would be works (see above).
I do know that the Bible constantly talks about being saved by faith where it makes no mention of calling out or asking ("whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life", "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved", etc etc.)
Yet also passages like Romans 10 really *do* sound like they indicate *something* to do with calling or speaking associated with eternal-life-God's-righteousness salvation. In context it really does not sound to me like merely a physical or temporal salvation here, does it? The "that they might be saved" referring to Israel even in the first verse is clearly about eternal life, isn't it?
1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
As far as calling out for deliverence, I can imagine that people would call on God or ask him to save and deliver them from some physical harm AND/OR from eternal death and hell, right?
Is calling out or asking required for eternal salvation? Or is it optional? Or is it excluded for salvation? Would we say that calling out to be saved is a common but not a necessary or universal event for all who get saved? Could or should we say that calling out to God verbally in faith is A WAY to receive eternal life? Or something that can accompany faith when one gets saved?
In a way it seems nit-picky, I believe if someone believes on Christ alone for it, they're saved, full stop. But in another way it seems like an important distinction and I think we should be very clear and precise when talking about the gospel.
I don't know. I don't know if I'm communicating my question clearly, hopefully you can understand what I'm getting at. I'm just still a little confused on the particulars of this but I'd REALLY like to clean this up in my mind. Am I missing something? Can you help me clear this up? Thanks!
This playlist may be of help: ruclips.net/p/PL2x4gz8z19J-6e6zLQJQJrxU51NKLw3Q1
Amen - well presented thoughts there - great verses shown too. John 4:10 and the whole context of Romans 10 too.
I think it's simply that you can't put God in a box. Whether you ask or not, if you're saved, you're saved. God looks upon the heart (Rom 10:10; Psalm 34:18; Psalm 51:17; Psalm 34:6). I was broken and lost and knew it, a sinner for sure, i believed what He did for me, and told Him that, and asked Him to save me and He did. I know someone else who didn't say a word, just driving in his car thinking about the Lord Jesus Christ, and the gospel - and got saved.
What do you do with that? I think best not to overthink it or get into endless debates.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
John 6:37
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Amen, praise the Lord.
YES! I'm so tired of preachers and their sinner's prayer nonsense. Excellent video, your channel is a blessing. Lord be with thee!
It's the traditions of men they're all into cuz the nifb pope does it that way
Romans 10:10 says confession is made UNTO salvation meaning there has to be salvation already present. You don’t confess to be saved, you confess you are saved.
Thanks!
I get it. Believing is saving,not confessing with thy mouth.
But I still think the Repent of Your Sins Gospel is the MOST HARMFUL FALSE GOSPEL bieng preached today in this modern age.
Repent of sins, keep the commandments, endure to the end is the true gospel. Christians who do the sins listed in Galatians 5:19-21 & Revelation 21:8 will go to hell
@sneediusrexius No,you have not repented of your sins. You and I will still sin,it's in our nature to. You will go to hell even if you repent of your sins. Christ said you are CONDEMNED ALREADY.
@@emmpak You are decieved. Read Galatians 5:19-21 (Fornication/adultury etc drunkeness, Those who do SUCH THINGS shall not inherit the Kingdom of God)
34 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin.
36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
You havent been set free by Christ. You are still a slave to sin = hellfire
@sneediusrexius you are a False Prophet that teaches a false gospel. Do you know what the gospel says?
This is just a works salvation in disguise. Trying to creep into the old churches.
You're right. I was shocked when I saw at least twice when the Bible associated prayer with labor and striving.
Good job, man of God
It’s kinda creepy how all of these New IFB “preachers” sound exactly alike. Not just their voices, but the mannerisms and how they preach. It’s almost a copy and paste.
Yeah, man! 👍makes sense.
Faith alone in Jesus Christ to save you. Death Burial and resurrection
Who is that Joker?
You do realize that Romans 10 is quoting Deuteronomy 30, right?
This means that Romans 10 should be read in the context of Deuteronomy 30, with the light of what Christ taught regarding the Law and Prophets (which He and all of the Apostles taught from when preaching the gospel because they point to Christ). This also means that we should heed God's word in passages such as Ezekiel 18 & 33, concerning who "shall surely live" and who "shall surely die", and what will and will not be mentioned on the day of judgement based on our position in the faith serving in obedience unto righteousness as God's love is perfected in our heart, or without serving sin unto death in unbelief (having turned away from God).
Paul says in 1 Corinthians 10 that all the things that are written about Israel are examples for us, because God was using physical means in the Old Covenant to teach us about the New Covenant.
1 Corinthians 10:1-12
"👉Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant,
how that all our fathers were under the cloud,
and all passed through the sea;
And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
And did all drink the same spiritual drink:
for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them:
and that Rock was Christ.👈
👉But with many of them God was not well pleased:
for they were overthrown in the wilderness.👈
👉Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.👈
Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
👉Now all these things happened unto them for examples:
and they are written for our admonition,
upon whom the ends of the world are come.👈
👉Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.👈"
John 3:9-15
"Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
Jesus answered and said unto him, 👉Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?👈
Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
👉If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?👈
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
👉And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness,
even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.👈"
Great explanation brother. Steven Anderson has a good Revelation prophecy series. You should make one Ono….
Hey brother I was reading Mark 16:15-16 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
I always thought this verse was talking about water baptism, in the context of if a person believes (saved) and is baptized they will be saved. But I realized there is no mention of water in the entire chapter. Jesus said in verse 15 to "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature."
Ephesians 1:13 teaches that when a person trusts in Christ after they hear the gospel of their salvation they are sealed with the holy Spirit of promise, now I am starting to think that the baptism Jesus mentions in Mark 16 is talking about the baptism of the holy Spirit. Do you have any thoughts on this?
Now when I read it, it sounds like Jesus is saying go preach the gospel, he that believes (the gospel) and is baptized (sealed with the holy Spirit) is saved. He that believes not is damned.
This sucks because I was saved hearing Anderson's online soulwinning. I hope NIFB pastors have or will repent from this bad doctrine.
What if a person is deaf and cannot speak? Why would God judge them?
Ugh. Calling upon the Name of the Lord or confessing that Jesus is Lord is not a work and it is not adding works to faith.
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I love the clapping on the Heads. lol
According to Jesus in John 12, those who believed on him but DID NOT confess him were saved. Moreover, it dumbfounds me how they totally abandon the definition of "confess" and make it mean "ask"? When in your life have you ever heard someone use the word confess to mean ask? It always means to admit to something. Additionally, 1 Cor 12:3 says "no man can say Jesus is the Lord but by the Holy Ghost". Only saved people call upon the Lord.
That last thing happened to me, they put Calvinist ideas in me and I ended up asking God about 15 times to be sure and all because I didn't understand Romans 10 and clearly with the Gospel, then I found out that Paul, in addition to referring to the Day of the wrath of the Old Testament and he speaks to Israel, he also speaks in a way to make them understand that they cannot be saved if they do not believe in Jesus Christ first and discovered that he is the one who said he was the Son of the most high God, God in the flesh and that they admit that the Father raised him from the dead because he cannot die, and that they will never be able to invoke him if they do not believe in him before, his Law will condemn them because they follow their own Justice, not God's and only a remnant will be saved, God is very clear you need to be born Again to see the Kingdom of God and if you believe in Jesus Christ you will be saved, everything else
sometimes, though, you think you believe something but when you really examine it you dont.
“And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.“ Acts 22:16
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If you believe that means you’ll call.
If you don’t call, that means you didn’t believe!
I honestly don’t see how you can watch Judas Corbin and his Hispanic twin lol but you are as clear as day in rebuking them praise Jesus! God bless you Brother keep up the Good Work
Why would somebody who is repentant not pray to God for forgiveness? David prayed for forgiveness when he repented. This honestly feels like a divisive argument over semantics. It's like you're looking for controversy where there isn't one.
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
James 2:17-20
The character of a saved man produces the confession of sin.
And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
Luke 23:42
There is nothing evil about opening communication with God or confession to Him.
When did I even remotely imply that there is anything evil about communication or confession unto God? Don’t confuse that which is reasonable with that which is required. We are saved through faith alone, not faith + prayer.
Confessing and asking are two totally different things. Confession is a result of something that has already been agreed upon, asking is done in order to obtain something that has not yet been obtained. I believe this is why people in Bible preaching churches end up having to confess they need to be saved after having been a Sunday school teacher for the past 20 years.
Calling isn't asking I'm so against the vain sinner prayers and I'm against the false doctrine of devil's ask Jesus into your heart that's not the Gospel or in scripture no believe Jesus Christ died for all your sins and that he was buried and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures then your once saved always saved
Romans 10 begins with Paul's heartfelt confession that he prays for Israel to be saved. He is eager for each of his Jewish brothers and sisters to believe in Christ. The prior passage concluded with Paul's declaration that his people, Israel, had tried to become righteous before God in the wrong way: by relying on their attempts to keep the law. They had refused to come to God by faith in Christ. Paul quoted Isaiah to show that Christ was the "stumbling stone" for Israel, but that all who believe in Him will not be put to shame.
Romans 10 was written to Israel not to us, the gentiles.
Can you explain this to me. Are these verses talking about we must observed all Jesus has commanded us? Matthew 28:20 and John 14:1-31.
Romans 3:4
“God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.”
What about John 6:40
“And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.”
According to their logic, you have to see the Son to be saved
Not here to start an argument, but I genuinely want to know how you would respond to Acts 22:16? According to that verse Paul was not actually saved while on the road to Damascus because his sins were washed away the moment he called upon the name of the Lord for salvation which to me undoubtedly proves that it is a requirement for salvation.
Acts 22:16
King James Version
16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
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Hey can you help me with Hebrews 10:26 is that meaning when you willfully go back to sacrificing animals I saw your video and read the chapter and that seems like the answer but lately I’ve just been doubting please help me
Yes, contextually that's what he is referring to. The Hebrew believers were being tempted to draw back unto those Old Testament sacrifices due to reproaches and afflictions.
Where do they find these people Brother? 🤦♂️
I do not believe that all these people try intentionally to misinterpret, However, when we tell others about God's perfect words, we need to stay true to them and be open for examination ourselves. Thank you for your time Brother.
Another thing to keep in mind too is that Paul in Romans 9, 10, and 11 is talking about Israel. And Israel needs to believe in the heart, and then call on the Name of the Lord to be saved from destruction. (Destruction came in 70 AD, but there is yet a future sense too, as Romans 11 points out.) Jesus had said "you shall not see me again until you say, blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord." He said this as a judgement against Israel's unbelief. So, there is a national Israel sense to Romans 10 that can be understood as well. In a general sense, this scripture is showing that the one who has been made righteous by believing (saved from the penalty of sin) can call on the name of the Lord for deliverance (salvation) from the power of sin in the daily life.
One thing to consider is that I believe that some of these verses point to believers just now (under grace) and some to people that come to faith during the Tribulation period.
Wow..these ministers are loaded with Pride... Their Pride has Blinded them to the Real Gospel... Denying the Gospels in front of the whole church...wow unbelievable....
Obviously their church is asking about the gospel..because they know something is not right...
And Still he cannot see the truth because of his pride.
Wowwww
Thank you Lord for the Gospel of Grace....
And covering ALL OUR SINS.
TO WHOM BELIEVE IN THE GOSPEL...
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Exactly right!
AMEN!
I came to the conclusion some time after your controversy on this topic (which brought me out of the NIFB) that they were not saved. You were actually one of the men who got me saved in the first place. There is zero difference between this false gospel, and baptismal regeneration: except one gets wet. Martin Luther also preached much about faith alone, and yet did not believe it sufficient.
There is no new thing under the sun.
Hey Tom! I wouldn’t say that they’re not saved. It’s possible for believers to get confused and or deceived by false teaching. God bless
@@OnoDiamante Hey, I appreciate your response brother! I would agree, actually. Excuse me for not clarifying: I believe the NIFB preachers aren't saved because they hate free grace, which we preach.
I hope you can be encouraged by my message, to keep up your good work; I appreciate your explanations of the difficult passages, as they helped me realise salvation was received via faith. God bless you too.
@@fredflintystoneea "because they hate free grace"
Lie from the aussumptions you declared
Especially Pastor Anderson said that one is still saved or Jimenez said you do not need to move the mouth even, that shows me that did not really watch everything what the other side presented to why they believe, what they believe, sad to put them in the same box as Martin Luther
Like Norm said, he believes they are saved because they brought good fruit, no unsaved man can bring forth good fruit, a lot of the new "follwers" of Norm are ex-NIFB and got saved there.
Thats also a reason why NIFB people are in completely war with Norm but still believe he is saved.
Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!
And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
James 3:5-6
@@fredflintystoneea They hate free grace? What garbage. Back up your nonsense with quotes and verses or just shut up next time.
There's so much bad preaching these days it's shocking.
Great video!
In before they all preach sermons against you again like they did in October 2021.
I think they’re going to continue to ignore him at this point cause if they respond, they’re gonna end up looking more silly than they already do. They may make a comment or two in passing during one of their sermons, but I doubt they’ll dedicate a whole sermon to the subject like they did before. They know if they did that, it would shed too much light on their false doctrine.
I stand corrected. Mejia brought him up during his sermon this evening lol 😆. He just mentioned him in passing though so I guess I still was right.
@@sermontrailers8408 could you give the timestamp please?
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16:58
@@sermontrailers8408 Mejia is a damnable heretic. He literally preached in 2019 that doubting your salvation means you're unsaved. He hasn't repented of this sermon or apologized, which makes me think he is likely a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Asking God to save you is a disgrace to the free gift of salvation offered on the Cross by Jesus Christ to all the ones that believe.
Much like Mark 16:16 makes no mention of unbaptized believers Romans 10:9 makes no mention of believers (who are saved) but don’t call upon Jesus’ name. Adding “calling upon Jesus’ name” (a work) as a requirement for salvation is no different than a Catholic using Mark 16:16 to add baptism (a work) as a requirement for salvation.
What church are you affiliated with?