Double Bass on The Alesis Nitro Mesh
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- In this short tutorial I show you how to map a second bass drum to your hi hat pedal on the Alesis Nitro Mesh. There's no need for a double kick drum pedal. Get a Nitro Mesh here amzn.to/31fN25D
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What a GREAT idea..... I just did it and I love it. I also changed my actual hi-hat setting to be closed all of the time without needing to press the controller pedal.... Thanks for sharing this.
How can you save a closed hi hat, i don't know how to do that, thanks
So great, man. Thanks for this video. I waited forever to decide on an electronic drum kit because I wanted double bass. I saw your video back in November and got the same kit. I'm having a blast playing some speedy, metalcore songs because of this vid. Peace man
I'm a guitarist and bassist trying to get into drums and I live in a small apartment I might end up getting this drum set to play becoming by Pantera.
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Thanks man! You just saved Christmas.
He saved my Christmas too
RoccoE4 the hi hat gets messed up
Rohan Gamester yeah it’s definitely not perfect but it works ok.
Almost one year later he does it again
Keep up the great work. I just got my nitro mesh kit yesterday for Christmas and let me tell you something I never built a kit more faster in my life I was so excited to get started
Thank you!!!!
My drums is on my way and I was wondering about duble kick drum and you explore me a secret that we can set double kick on hit hat so I dont need to get extra pedal! So glad I found you!:)
it works like trash
@@sambt123what he says in the video didn't work for you?
Man, thanks a lot. This cure in a tiny bit my depression. Thanks again.
Great tip! I have this kit and an actual double petal and it has been a bit of a struggle. I have the beaters as close as I can get them and neither one strike the center of the pad enough to get the full trigger of a single petal. I have spent hours trying to get it just right and I have it as even as possible. What I did is turned up the sensitivity and the volume of the bass pad to even it out with the rest of the kit. Works great now. So if you do go for the double petal, keep this in mind. Also for you and anyone reading this, this kit works great with Reason 10 and 11 with the Kong Drum Machine and the Reason Drums rack extensions. I did have to adjust the pad sensitivity to get a more “real” sound for rolls and ghosts.
Can you please tell me how to do that?
@@sebquintero7484 "What I did is turned up the sensitivity and the volume of the bass pad to even it out with the rest of the kit. "
Thank you for this comment! I have reason 10 now because of school and was not sure if my kit would work with it. Great to know.
Can you post the settings you used?
Thanks.
@@prdsatx4467 If you talking about the double bass pad settings, I believe I had the sensitivity up all the way and the volume as well. I'm not 100% sure if that was the setting, as I'm using a completely different setup now with the Alesis 8" mesh bass pad from the surge kit. I found it used for cheap. I would recommend that if you can find one. I was fed up with the nitro bass pad with my double petal.
Been looking online at $150 kick pedals but I just found this you’re a legend great idea
Thank you so much I bought this kit just a couple days ago, and bought a dw double kick and it was too big for the pad hitting plastic like crazy.
glad to help
Tape layers of different sizes of cardboard on the kickdrum, from smaller to larger. It doesnt look good but it works
@@viktor2915 sir can you please show us how to do this? It'll be of great help
Had the same problem, went with custom kits as well
All my electric kits except my roland td27, my double bass pedals NEVER worked. Ever. If I went faster only one of them would register the sound. You. Are. A. Life. Saver.
I found an excellent way to do double bass on the Nitro Mesh kit. I bought a 2nd identical Alesis kick pad tower & pedal cheap, then hooked it up via a "mono" 1/4 inch 2-way splitter to have double bass. Seeing as both share an input, they have the exact same settings, as well. It works so much better than my double pedal did, as the beaters weren't hitting the pad in the center enough to work that good. The 2nd tower has been working wonders, however, for over a year.
cool!
@@demonicsweaters Also, I heard the using the hi hit pedal isn't a good idea, because the spring is only a smaller single spring, or so I've seen in another video. But a 2nd Alesis kick tower pad only ran me around $70. eBay seller drumsrus usually always has one, and if not, he restocks. Then a mono 1/4 inch Y splitter works, or hooking it to Tom 4. I have a 1 male to 2 female Y splitter, mono, not stereo.
I bought a double bass pedal and a kick tower, both from Millenium and that's a great solution!
Good idea!
Thank you! Just got this kit last week and I'm still tinkering around with it. Loving it!
I just got my new drum kit after using a double bass aon acoustic and haven't put it together yet and I didn't know how I should do the double bass on an edrum until I saw this video. Thx so much!!
Thanks for the tip. This was the deciding factor for me whether or not to buy this kit. Now I can have dbl bass w/out having to buy dbl pedals on a cool inexpensive kit 😀
I love this idea.
It has inspired me to plug the bass pedal from my old Roland kit into the input for Tom 4.
I wouldn't want to use the hihat pedal because it seems kind of flimsy and not likely to stand up to such heavy use. I suspect using it as a kick pedal would break it fairly quickly.
But, yeah, I am very thankful for your videos on editing kits in the module.
If anyone ever uses the hi hat as a second bass like me and they’re hearing hi hat sound I just isolated the sound during settings and turned the volume all the way down on it, bam easy peasy lol. Happy jamming everyone!
Just change the sample from a HH closing to a kick sample
@evil kava any guitar amp or bass amp I suggest over 25 watts
I have used the bass pedal from my old Roland kit and plugged it into the back of the module where it says Tom 4. Feels perfect and only triggers one sound.
@evil kava I used to use a little amp but for the last 8 months or so I’ve been just using headphones and the isolated sound is the best in my opinion.
I'm so grateful that we bought the same set 😅
Me too for $130 lol
Dude...your videos are a HUGE help. Influenced me to get the alesis over the donner. Keep the videos coming and rock on :)
First the "real" manual, and now this! You have surely been cutting the Nitro trail for us. Thank you for this awesome freebie! I have been using Addictive Drums 2 and it resolves the hi-hat pedal issues with its excellent midi-mapping. I can't bear the Alesis samples...lol
Happy to help!
If you have access to a second kick pedal plug it into the jack for Tom 4 and you can use your hihat pedal for hihat again.
Thanks for the tip. This was my deciding factor on whether or not to buy this kit. Now I can have dbl bass on this cool inexpensive kit without having to buy dbl kick pedals 😀
Dude you made my day. I never read the manual. Thanks bud
Alesis Nitro Mesh on its way in a couple of days. Glad i found you. The ride and the double bass are great!
Nevermind, I found your video on my question 🤪 thanks again!
Will this develop any bad habits for when I invest in an actual double kick pedal?(like responsiveness on an acoustic kit). I'm just learning drums solely for studio recording but it would be nice to be able to get a gig or two a few years down the line on drums. I'm still working on upping my speed on a single kick.
🔥Mine just came in the mail and I have it all set up, and thanks for this! I might return it for an upgraded kit 🤔
Can't believe I didn't think of that, thanks
Bro I just bought this tonight for $130..and was gonna get a double bass pedal...not anymore lol well not right away thanks man
I have the same kit. Can't wait to get a double kick pedal
omg, thank you so much, I was driving crazy thinking to buy a regular double bass you save me to save money on that
Glad I could help!
Bro THANK YOU for this video. I am learning drums and was so initially disappointed I couldn’t do double kick on this kit. But now I can!
My hero! You just made me quarantine
Why? Because the video was sick?
John Krasnavage Hahahaha!!!
just bought th kit today !! i have a question, i succesfully putthe bass drum on the hh pedal .... but now my hh pedal shut the hh and play BD at the same time LOL . how do i fix that and how i can make my hh always shut without pedal ?
btw love your video, always clear, no fuss no muss, straight to the point ! keep the good work my friend!
Hell yeah. To the point ,very clear. Just got this kit month ago. Thx
I love this drum set. Teaching my fiancé on it and it’s made it way easier lol
thanks man, you just saved me like 300 bucks. Instead of buying a double and a new kick tower. :D
You’re a genius thank you
Hi Justin. Great channel man. I just want to check, when you use a double kick pedal on the tower are there drop off issues due the sensor being centered and being quite small? I really want to use my double kick and not to keen on the hi hat pedal as my second kick.
I have used the bass pedal from my old Roland kit and plugged it into the back of the module where it says Tom 4. Feels perfect.
Holy crap thank you so much for this
Thanks!
OF COURSE!!! Why didn’t I think of that!!!
Thanks a lot man, I was looking for a bigger pad for my Nitro mesh, it´s unnecessary now. Greetings from Colombia.
Really nice video, thanks for sharing :D
Great video! Are the cymbals chokable?
the crash is but the ride and hi hat aren’t
All your videos are so helpful and informative🥁🎼thanks bro
Rock on!
Thank you. This is very useful for my son. He's wanna try double bass drum
Glad to help
How long have you been using that nitro?
Thank you so much!! Now I found out how to do so much stuff with my drum kit now! Thank you!!
Thanks! This is great info!
Thanks for your videos! I did realize... One video, one glasses... LOL
@Demonic Sweaters Hey man I had a query. Does the hi hat pedal give a different feel to the foot compared to the bass pedal? Will this be an issue if I use the hi hat as the 2nd bass as you did in your video. Like does it feel "normal" or would you still prefer the double bass pedal over this method? Looking for you reply! Anyways really great content!
It totally does
Thank you so much man, you answered my question! :)
Dude! Thank You Brother I appreciate this video, thumbs up and subbed man, stay groovy brah ;)
Dude holy shit i love you thank you
You are a damn hero
Great guide, much appreciated.
Holy crap, why didn't I think of that instead of buying the double kick pedal??
I did what you said but when I play double bass sometimes it will still register as high hat control. Any answers?
Same here,
I found that sometimes it will pick it up as a hi-hat splash
A comment I found on reddit that (possibly) addresses this situation:
"... On the nitro hi hat pedal, there's also a "hi hat half-open" position that will make you drop Y Cymbal notes while using double bass if you don't adjust it... What you have to do is hold the hi hat pedal about 3/4 of the way down (if you look at your midi output you'll see it change, I think the default is 23), then change the hi hat output for half-open to whatever the default is for full open (I want to say 49? not positive about that.) This will fix the dropped note issue."
Source: www.reddit.com/r/Rockband/comments/5t3vo6/double_bass_trick_for_alesis_nitro/
@@miuraYCM nice
I bought this kit bundled with the pdp 502 double bass pedal, from Sweetwater. It arrived yesterday. I think I still would have bought a dbp for it anyway, even if I would have watched this first, it seems awkward having different pads being assigned to different sounds and I think it would have messed with my ocd lol
When i program the hi hat pedal to the bass drum sound, i still get some hi hat sounds out of it, anyway around this?
You can get it out by pushing very bottom of the hi hat pedal and you will get some number and then set the hi hat sound to the drum pedal you want to, it’s that simple
Oh my, thank you so much!
You saved me a few hundred bucks lol I was going to buy the slave pedal with drive shaft but now I can just do this 🙏 I have the same exact drum kit aswell lol
Nope it’s sloppy, you can’t play constant doubles and also a regular double kick doesn’t work with it
Thanks for posting! I tried this same cool trick with my Alesis Nitro Mesh Kit. It works amazing except I don't know how to double kick. I know. Shame on me. Heheh
One other thing I did was changing my snare rim sound to a Splash Cymbal. That really helped me out.
Very informative! I just got the nitro mesh special edition in a used demo model and I didn’t get a manual so I’m learning!
Thankyou sooooo much!!!!!! Can you adjust the kick drum? I’m new at all this I have the surge
I bought the nitro on a whim based on price and was disappointed that I couldn’t get a great sound with double pedal even though manufacturers said it would work. I decided to spend $60 more bucks and found musicians friend selling the Simmons KP2 kick tower on eBay and bought it. It was a perfect fit and the most cost effective way to make the Nitro perfect for me.
We’re you able to plug this into the nitro without any problems? I have been thinking about doing this but wasn’t sure it was going to be compatible.
Now you can plug your second bass pedal into the jack for Tom 4, and remap the sound exactly like in the video.
Right on man ..great video
Glad you enjoyed
Found someone selling an Alesis kick pad and pedal online. Thinking I'll pick that up and just plug the second kick pad into the tom 4 port. Considering what they're asking for the pad and pedal, it's actually cheaper than buying a double kick pedal.
I received the second kick pad and pedal, for about half to one-third of what they cost online. Hooked the new pad up to the tom 4 port, and it works like a charm! I now have dual kicks on my nitro mesh, and I'm TERRIBLE with them. Definitely gonna be a while before I can play a cover of BabyMetal Death or Lamb Of God's Now You've Got Something To Die For.
The only issue I'm having is I can't seem to set the hi-hat open to use the closed hi-hat sounds. I have the pedal duct-taped closed for now. It'll do until I can figure out how to set it properly.
Thanks for the innovative idea, I have made it the way you have made it and its ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!
Fantastic!
Hey! Have recently set up my kit (first time drummer, 2 months in) but having trouble as getting double hits with one kick of the bass pedal. The beater is bouncing off the pad. Any idea how to adjust the spring tension other than turning the top ‘bolt’, which seems to make no difference? The bottom spring bolt doesn’t budge, even using pliers. Thanks in advance!
If you're getting double hits from the pedal bouncing you just need to learn to control your foot better. Spring tension is mostly personal preference.
So helpful
Holy shit this is good to know!
Thank you very much and rock on! 😎🤘
Thank you too!
THANK YOU!!
Thanks bro, your awesome 💯
Thnx a lot for the tip bro u nailed it ✌️
Awesome! Thanks bro
No problem!
Get ready: Just insert a simple overdrive or boost guitar pedal between the stock kick pad and the module.
The pedal raises the volume of the signal that is transmitted to the module. This way the pad becomes MUCH more sensitive for weaker hits.
I did this because I bought an 8" mesh kick pad for my Nitro which didn't work any better. I talked to Thomann about this and he told me that every module requires a different signal level in order to process the hits accurately.
Since piezos are also used as pickups for acoustic guitars, this works AND saves money.
Interesting idea!
fantastic!!!
Many thanks!!
This may be a dumb question, i know basically nothing about drums but if i assign the bass sound to the hi hat pedal, doesnt that mean i wont be able to play a hi hat anymore?
Wow thank men that was my only question on this drum set
Another one I got is
Do you know if there is a difference on the drum set that's red? Or is it the same as this one
They both have same name
Alesis Nitro Mesh Special Edition 8-Piece Electronic Drum Set
It’s the same. Just red.
But can you play Bleed?
I have no idea what that is.
Hello Justin. I am saving and maybe buying one of those kits for Christmas but not just to learn how to play drums but also using it as a midi controller to trigger things like EZ Drummer for home recordings. So far hat I have read one of the most important things when looking for a midi controller is sensibility, like how good it is to pick soft hits and try to achieve the most dynamic range. What do you think of this kit regarding its dynamic range grom from soft to hard hits? I mean, for the same money I buy a midi controller with decent pads and do "finger druming" instead but that would not be as fun as playing a kit.
Sensitivity is really good on these pads. I don't really think that'll be an issue.
Javier, As Justin said, the sensitivity is good on these pads. As I mentioned my comment, I use these as a midi controller for Reason. I did have to adjust the sensitivity a bit especially for the snare, but that might just be Reason and not the kit.
Finger drumming?wth is that bro?
@@christph3118 Playing drums using a midi controller's pads.
hello im planning to but this kit,does it make a lot of nice?I mean it's still a lot of hitting))Thanks
So we're did you get it. As SpongeBob said I NEED IT.
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This definitely works but at least for me, the 2 different feelings on the pedals makes it harder to keep good time cause I'm new and I fuckin suck lol but this is an easy workaround for sure.
I have used the bass pedal from my old Roland kit and plugged it into the back of the module where it says Tom 4. Feels perfect.
Youre a genius
Just bought this for my nephew and I wanna buy him a double bass pedal but this is genius for now
Do this going forward is not the best option though because the pressure and distance of the beater will throw you off as you advance with the style of the hi hat pedals. Best bet to get a cheap one off ebay to learn!
Yes! I was hoping you could just make the high hat into another bass pedal
I think for it to be plausible though, you'd need the hi-hat to default to open, since it can longer be controlled. If it ends up being stuck on closed you'll just end up with a click click click sound out of it. Can the hi-hat be set to open ?
Did you end up figuring this out
Thanks dude
omg thank you sooooooooooo much from the bottom of my bass
Can you just split the highest pedal with a 3rd pedal for double bass? Most likely, you would have to use a rim line for the drum splitter - obviously something that is not going to be played at the same time.
Brilliant hack
this is great. thank you
OK, so my question is can I use the extra Tom port on the back of the drum module to add another kick drum pad? Giving me two kick drum pads for double bass. Again, can the extra Tom port in the back of the drum module be used to add a second kick drum pad?
yes
Thanks a lot !!!!
DUDE! You might have saved me 600 dollars for pedals . I can't wait to try this out on my command mesh
Glad I could help!
Can you share your drum kit setting or guide me to them please?