ANGRY Protestant vs The Bible
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- Angry Protestant Bruce Banner vs The Bible. My response to @wild_olive_tree - Let's DEBATE!
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Honestly I use to be an angry Protestant, now I can’t stop loving the Mother Church 🕊️
A mother has children.
@@peterzinya1 Yes. 1.3 billion of them and counting.
Same
Peace be with you brother 🙏
@@BensWorkshop And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Fundamentalist Baptists have the most literal interpretation when it comes to everything except Baptism, Communion, and whether or not it was ACTUALLY real wine 😂
True. Good people but you better be able to turn to a page and show them word for word where it is in the bible. Otherwise just change the subject. As for confession, since the Bible lacks a set of blueprints to build a confessional, it ain't biblical. Ark of the covenant, size of the tabernacle, Noah's ark - specified dimensions. Confession booth - no dimensions.
What real wine? I thought it was ocean spray or at least Welch’s 😂
@@thedarkshepherdIn the KJV 1611 Edition, it's Welch's.
Fundemantal baptists can be so annoying to deal with. They slander the Church and the Papacy all the time, yet they always believe and parrot whatever their pastor tells them, without questioning it, even if it makes no sense
@@363catmanand God also didn't give us a blueprint for churches, or baptism fonts, or pullpits. Should we tear all of those down as well? The confessional booth is a tool to administer the sacrament of confession. It is not necessary to confess in a booth, it is just a traditional way it is done.
Idk why Protestants always quote the thief on the cross to say you don't need to be Baptized. Baptism should be based on the verses talking about Baptism, not on a deathbed confession.
Yes, while Jesus keeps the promises of the sacraments, he is not limited to the sacraments and he is God so he gets to save anyone he wants
Yes, some Protestants don't understand Baptism by Desire. Which could apply to the Thief because he's on a cross and couldn't use water.
And baptism by water and holy spirit didn't happen until pentecost, many weeks after the thief's death
So not even God can allow someone into paradise? A water ritual does, but not Jesus?
I am becoming Catholic but I also believe that God will save some who aren't baptized. In part, because of the man on the cross. Also, because if God didn't create some for hell and only the elect for Heaven, then creating those who end up in North Korea would be like creating some for hell. I believe God call us all and that He can do whatever He likes. For the loving people who never heard the gospel, they may be given a chance.
When i was converting into Christianity. I beg God that Chatolics especialy were wrong and that other are the way. But I said with my convertion that i take truth over my ego. So now i work as a ministrant in Catholic Church listening to protestants calling me that i worship idols xd
THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO VOTE TRUMP
I AM A LAPSED CATHOLIC ,OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST IS MASTER OF ALL AND THE POPE IS PETERS SUCCESSOR ON EARTH CATHOLICISM IS THE OLDEST SURVIVING CHRISTIAN RELIGION ON EARTH
@@user-eq8ui4ln4fI’m a catholic and I’m voting Trump and so is majority of the Catholics in my church
@@D20034 never in a MILLION YEARS WOULD I VOTE FOR TRUMP
@@user-eq8ui4ln4f ok 👍🏼 I don’t know why your typing in all caps but you should ask Jesus to take that anger you have in your heart away your acting worse then a child who gets told “no” 🤡
His suit was destroyed when he turned into the Hulk.
baptized into the Maronite Catholic Church as a baby. raised Protestant for 18-19 years of my life. I questioned A LOT of what I was taught. got convinced of Catholicism, did confession at my Church I was baptized into as a baby and now I LOVE being Catholic. these arguments I hear from my Protestant friends that are mad I became Catholic are so bad.
St. Charbel, pray for us.
You were baptized into maronite Catholic church??
We're you baptized into Christ?
Wow love this ❤, I have a similar-ish story. Coming back to Christ in my mid-twenties after leaving the faith as a young teenager, but I’m coming back through Catholicism rather than the Protestant church I was raised and christened in. My maternal grandfather was from Lebanon, was Roman Catholic, and used to tell us as little ones that we’re related to St. Charbel. 💗 May he intercede for us. 🙏🏽 Blessings!
@@rikrik0812 most probably your grandfather was a Melkite Catholic. In the local language they say "Roum Catholeeque". Roum means Byzantine part of Rome. That's the Melkite Catholics. Not many Roman Catholics exist in Lebanon. Either Maronite Catholic or Melkite Catholic or Eastern Orthodox. Most are of the Antioch Church.
Was born and grew up in there 🙂
@@bradleymcdonald6273 hehehe do you real think he believed in a different sort of baptism, when he said, baptized in the Maronite Church??
Or you just like to make some dramatic carrying-on.! 😅
@@guardianangels7091 wow, thank you so much for sharing. Fascinating. I did a bit of research after reading your comment, and read something that said it does indeed translate to “Roman Catholic” and is confusing for English speakers because it’s in reference the “New Rome” through Eastern Orthodox "Byzantine" Roman heritage (please correct me if I misspoke) not the Latin. So is it that they practice orthodox liturgy, but are in communion with the Holy See? My Papa sadly passed a few years ago, so I can’t ask him myself, but I imagine he was saying “Roman Catholic” in English as he never spoke Arabic to us, just around us… and all these years later, and as a baby Catholic lol, I thought he meant the Latin Roman Catholic Church. So interesting. I feel that you helped me gain some insight to my family/heritage. Thank you so so much! My Papa came to the states in the 70s from Beirut - do you still reside in Lebanon and are you a member of one of these churches? My Papa hadn’t been home in years, and my mother has never been, but I look forward to visiting Lebanon someday. 😊
Your explanation of transubstantiation was very helpful for me as someone who’s strongly considering converting.
come home brother 🙌🏽
What are some roadblocks holding you up?
@@TheRockIsCooking I’m sorting through the papacy and the Mary Dogmas. I don’t question there are legitimate reasons to hold them as truth I simply need time to sort through more evidence so I can feel confident in my decision. I really have no problem with not being Protestant but I won’t commit to conversion until I have a better understanding of those teachings.
@@joelrobertsonmusic interesting brother, thanks for sharing. What are your thoughts on the Eucharist and the mass being a sacrifice ?
@@TheRockIsCooking The Eucharist and real presence is really what started swaying me away from Protestantism. I’m just now grasping the meaning of transubstantiation and understanding the theology around it.
To some level, this is all like relearning the faith over again. There’s a lot of union in our understanding of Christ and the trinity but everything else has been foreign to me my whole life.
Bruce must pisseth against the wall.
I hope he comes to the revelation that the Eucharist is the greatest teacher of virtue.
My wife will be confirmed Sunday and she loves the Eucharist and that is what drew her back to Catholicism.
Bruce could easily avoid embarrassing himself if he simply talked to his local priest.
You mean one of the 4,000 Priests that's Raped and Sexually Assaulted 330,000 Children..in which the Catholic Church LIED and DECEIVED the whole world..as they unsuccessful tryed to cover it up?😂
I’m an Eastern Orthodox Christian and I enjoy Alex’s channel. Man is doing good work.
I mean this charitably, if you have truth there's nothing to fear in a debate.
same here yo☦️ i love this dudes channel even tho we have our disagreements
@@SaintAthanasius_Edits pachamama
@@delgandehoax to make the pope look bad.
Welcome, our Eastern Orthodox brother! ✝️❤️☦️
Come home, Bruce! 🙏🏻🥰
and your profile photo make sense to the comment.
@@decrix lol yusss
When people bring up the thief on the cross, my response is "He was nailed to a cross, what's your excuse?"
Not trying to be a smart Alec, but were the thieves nailed? From my understanding I thought they were tied and only Jesus was nailed to the cross. Please correct me if I’m mistaken
I almost facepalm everytime they bring up the thief because they always without fail mistake paradise for heaven not realising paradise is Abrahams bosom and if the thief ‘went to heaven’ he would have somehow entered heaven before Christ opened the gates of heaven while Christ was still preaching to those in paradise.
They tend to go silent when you quote the Bible reminding them Jesus descended into hell for three days, had to rise again, spend 40days with His apostles/disciples and then ascend to heaven
Also there are some verses that hint towards the thief possibly being a fallen away disciple because he knew Christ was Lord and going to his kingdom (luke 23:42) something Jesus only taught his disciples (Matt. 13:10-16; Mark 4:10-12)
Protestants tend to read too much into the story of St. Dismas
@@TheRockIsCookingArchaeological findings showed they used nails, and probably reused the same nails for the next victim.
@@ModernLadyThat's unsanitary!
@@MeanBeanComedy You think the Romans were trying to prevent infections?
All protestants get shocked when they realize that Catholics know the Bible as well, and actually better 😂💖
When it comes to Baptism I remember Acts chapter 2. Peter preaches a sermon at the 1st Pentecost, the crowd is moved and begins to ask, what do I need to do to be saved? Peter says "repent and be baptised". Doesn't sound like an optional extra, Peter doesn’t say "repent and get baptised if you want to..."
Later in one of peters' letters, he says baptism now saves you. I think I'd be baptised if the chosen leader of the apostles said it now saves you.
@alternativefactory7190 quote the whole verse. "Not the removal of dirt from the body, but the pledge of a clear conscience towards god" as Paul says "there is one baptism" those baptized in the spirit are saved and not everyone who undergoes water baptism will be saved as there is only one baptism. You should be baptized as it's a public commitment to God but not all who say Jesus is lord will be saved
@MrCdepue right, not all who say Jesus is lord will be saved. You must ve born again of water and spirit. Not just spirit and not just water. But both. How can you k ow you are receiving both. You are baptized in the matter and form that Jesus told the apostles, and they then taught.
@MrCdepue you must also remain in him, and he will remain in you. You must remain in the church because the church is the body of christ.
@alternativefactory7190 Can you explain to me what that means?
I’ve been reading the Didache.
Scholars used to date it to the 2nd or 3rd century. New evidence places it somewhere between 50 to 70 AD. This means it’s composition would’ve aligned with Council of Jerusalem as well as The Gospels. It’s clear from the Eucharistic Prayers listed in there that Christians have believed in the Real Presence since the very beginning.
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Can u please cite
The source for
This claim? Thanks
@@Crazy88277the source is the didache.
Scholars usually date texts also by the style of writing.. for example we know Daniel is written in 5-6th B.c cause it uses imperial assyrian... In the didache ot uses Pais(Son) instead of Yios(Son). Pais was stopped being used in the Greek texts in the 50''s. So Didache has to be earlier than that.. that's one reason they believe it's mid 1st century
@@RepairerOfthebreach-zf5th I think the Diadache is late first century but we’re splitting hairs. It’s the first interpretative teaching of NT
The thief on the cross argument.
How did the thief know who Jesus was? Jesus didn't preach the gospel to him. He needs to go read Jesus' last 7 words. The thief was clearly catechized and could have been a fallen away disciple. He could have had the baptism of John and/or circumcised as a Jew that kept the old covenant. The thief knew Jesus was innocent and believed He was God. Explain to me how Bruce, if the thief had just met Jesus at the cross and the bible doesn't tell us that He preached the gospel to the thief. If you say that he heard Jesus quoting the Psalms then that thief was a Jew, was under the old covenant and was a circumcised Jew. If he was a pagan or Gentile he wouldn't have understood how Christ fulfills the Psalms. He probably wouldn't even have known what Jesus was saying.
It's funny that he accuses us of cannibalism. That's exactly what the pagans, Romans and Jews accused the early church Christians of doing. He needs to read Justin Martyr's first apology.
This is Bruce the fundamentalist baptist in John 6:
52The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?”
60When many of his disciples heard it, they said, “This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?”
61But Jesus, knowing in himself that his disciples were grumbling about this, said to them, “Do you take offense at this?
66 After this many of his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him.
67So Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you want to go away as well?”
Now I want a movie about the good thief following this idea you outlined. A man who was enthusiastic about Jesus's message, but then, for various reasons, reverts to a life of crime. Finally, he ends up in such a situation where he's condemned to death and meets again His Saviour in the most unlikely, unlucky, and yet blessed of moments; their last breath in the cruel hold of a cross.
@@kinghoodofmousekind2906 I didn't think of that. That's a really good idea. A story of true redemption. Imagine ending up at calvary with Jesus Christ Himself who is about to redeem the world through His sacrifice and you are right next to Him. That would be an interesting point of view.
It's interesting how often "Sola scriptura" turns into "Sola scriptura non dicit" for Prots, especially low church Prots.
I've recently realized and started pointing out that the doctrines practiced can only be as old as the teachings of Luther, Calvin, and Arminius. Which none of the 3 agree, and the their doctrine is THEIR interpretation of Scripture. Not to mention Luther and Calvin where both Catholic for half of their lives. So if it's scripture alone, who's interpretation of the scripture is inerrant???
Only strawman arguments from there
Jesus used "Sola Scriptura" to show Who and What He was.
Non-denominational protestants mostly. The low church beliefs are why I became Presbyterian. Protestants need to actually join a mainline denomination instead of remaining non-denominational.
Coming back to faith through Catholicism rather than my Protestant upbringing. Can you explain what “low church” means?
@@AntiMarxism21stCenturyWho told you what the bible is? Catholic church did
There are many Catholics who hold to a 7-day literal creation as well and it's within the realm of orthodox Catholic belief and permitted by the church.
It’s possible, Adam was a man walking when he was formed. In built age . We will never know.
If you believe you live on a spinning ball, 7 day creation means nothing 😂😂
Christ is King!
Thanks for your work in the trenches brother. You’re helping us train us too.
God Bless!
Christus regnat, brother.
His response to “call no man father” was quite embarrassing.
I don’t know if debating against these low church, prot ignoramuses is even worth it. They have no eye to see, nor an ear to hear.
Literally😂 all I heard was "wah, wah wah!!!😢😭"
No it actually wasn't
@@Christsword33hearing voices in your head I assume?
@@BullyofTrolls *Pokemon battle music starts* “A wild Prot appeared!”
Just a few hours ago, I've finished attending mass at my parish where they celebrate their jubilee year. When I saw your video I immediately watch it and I was not disappointed. Great to see another amazing response from voice of reason. Thank you again for standing up for the Catholic faith.
Keep on debunking these false prophet prots brother🤝
Used to be Free Grace OSAS non-denom so grateful my Catholic friend who stayed with me on my spiritual journey he led me to Christs Church. Love your videos breaking their arguments and defending Catholicism thank you brother❤️
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God bless you brother.
You know jacksmack77? He's a Free Grace OSAS. I think Voice of Reason should debunk him.
Also,
America First is inevitable. It's unstoppable.
@@MeanBeanComedyNJFG4L o7
When Reason says, “Glory to Jesus Christ,” you know you’re gonna see something good.
Thank you Voice and Reason for doing the great work of defending the truth. It's your job brother like all of us baptized Catholics to defend the Catholic Church Teacings and when defending, Holy Spirit gives all to do the talking. ❤❤❤
Mic drop at the end, ego and pride with a splash of self righteous seeping from Bruce. Thanks for your excellent explanation, I appreciate that you pointed out the fact that he references what the Bible doesn’t say; many attack us Catholics based on what the bible doesn’t say! Thankful Catholic 🙏🏼
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I made a video refurting Protestants geroge janko and cliff it has 10k views and HUNDREDS of hate comments. Idk why they get so mad.
Yeah, they can say all kinds of hateful things and spread lies about us, but as soon as you say something back they get super angry.
I have often wondered if Catholics do the same and trapse through Protestant channels in order to start a hateful argument. I have been Catholic all my life and I never see such hate among Catholics towards Protestants. We just think they don’t understand the scripture but we are not hateful.
Great response. It’s obvious that guy doesn’t know who he’s dealing with in a educated Catholic man. Just subscribed today and Been watching and listening to your content all day. Looking forward to the next one. 🙏🏼
Keep him in check...will be praying for him and you.
How many times must we teach you this lesson, young man?!
I used to be a ANGRY Protestant hating on every apostlic church now I'm an Orthodox but I still respect the Roman Catholic Church and I believe the Holy Spirit guided the church🙏
We love you too brother. ✝️☦️
The relentless trash talking is wonderfully refreshing coming from a Catholic apologist. Kudos, sir. In-kind, vigorous defense of the faith is required these days.
ABSOLUTE MIC DROP AT THE END! HOLY MOLY!
I think the echo is still lingering….
This is the first I've heard of there being a difference between 'Paradise' and 'Heaven'. I'm doing my own research into it as I've never heard of it, but if you haven't already, I would love to see a video going more in depth about the difference between 'Paradise' and 'Heaven' if you haven't made one already. I love how you break things down and explain the faith, so I would love to see a video on this topic.
Yes me too!! I ran to the scriptures and creeds to find this. I would love a more in depth explanation. He was almost using hell and paradise interchangeably
We don't have it in our canon, but look at 4 Maccabees 13: 17 If we die this way, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob will give us a warm welcome, and all the ancestors will praise us.”
The clue is on the word Jesus said to the theif. "TODAY you will be with Me in paradise."
As a Christian we should have known that Jesus didn't go to heaven until 40 days after His resurrection. So paradise is not heaven. But where is the paradise He meant? As Alex said in this video, the paradise is the Abraham’s bosom stated in Luke 16. Paul also said it in Eph. 4:9, and Peter mentioned it in 1 Peter 3:19.
What kind of place is that? This is a jail Jesus mentioned in Matthew 5:26. "Truly I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny."
This is what the Catholic Church calls PURGATORY.
@@shinta9377 Just so we don't confuse the person asking, purgatory is not Abraham's bosom. That (Abraham's bosom) was in Sheol before Christ descended into Sheol and freed them.
@@John_Six purgatory is part of sheol. Check in Luke 16. The rich man (in hell fire) and Abraham had conversation.
Abraham’s bosom is purifying place as mentioned in Zechariah 13:9 cf. 1 Peter 1:7.
@VoiceOfReason Excellent video! And the invitation to debate was the icing on top of the cake. 🎂
Thanks for the vid. Its rather disturbing that fellow-Christians attack others, despite our differences. Our society is becoming more like the biblical sodom and gomorra.
If Protestants could agree on how to interpret the Bible, you'd have one Protestant church. Instead there are thousands of different Protestant denominations because every Protestant with a Bible thinks he's his own Pope.
There is as much as 400 different Catholic denominations
@@tracysoule3266bro.. all have one interpretation and
it’s actually about 5/6 sects in Catholicism.
@@tracysoule3266 there are Catholics and Orthodox that differ on very few issues compared to all they agree on. Then there are the tens of thousands of Protestant denominations!
not pope, but Christ himself, the the master and the legislator
Oh wow, Alex. You're setting a great example on how to be a virtuous and courageous man. The last part of your video was my favorite.
Blessings and prayers 🙏🏼
Round of applause. You were on point
I’m Protestant and I’m appalled by how most Protestants seem to think the second sentence in Mark 16:16 overrides the first sentence. I’ve even had Calvinist tell me Mark 16:16 isn’t scripture but is part of a longer ending of Mark that was added and not part of the “older and more trustworthy manuscripts”! It’s sickening
I think if Catholic Scholars would debate Protestant pastors there’d be very few denominations rising each year.Im a Pentecostal Christian considering of converting because of inaccuracies in my pastors teaching and just studying of the history of Christianity
😂you’re in a cult
@@amc3463 🐼
So happy to have finally left protestantism and am joining the Catholic Church. All glory to Jesus Christ.
Let’s go no one will debate this man
Love your work Alex. My 12 year old daughter Octavia, wants to be an Apologist like you and defend our Catholic faith. Thank you for being so passionate, scholastic and charitable in your explanations. God bless.
I really appreciate this video. I saw someone else mention never hearing about the difference between paradise and heaven and same here! I’m so thankful to be learning about Catholicism every day 🌹 Thank you so much.
your rebuttal to the argument about the eucharist being an anachronism in john 6 is well explained and definitely the best hermeneutic
0:14 “I seem to have upset quite a few Protestants.”
I hit like at this point! 👍
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I debated this guy in the past and he just started calling everyone snowflakes. I LOVE YOU BRO
What did the Jews do with the Passover lamb? Didn't they eat their sacrifice??? Yes, they did. So why is it so hard to understand what Jesus is teaching here. He is the Passover lamb. He is the eternal sacrifice.
"While the temple was still standing, it was usual for the people of Israel to descend upon the city of Jerusalem, and bring a lamb or goat for each family to be slaughtered. The priests would ritually sacrifice the animals and take a bowl of the blood to pour on the altar, before giving the meat back to the family to be cooked on pomegranate branch skewers and enjoyed in the evening." (One for Israel site)
I just wanna say that because of you and r&t i have been attending all the services at my local byzantine catholic church and if god wills it, ill be baptized by this fall. Im lucky enough to have 1 byzantine rite church in my area. And its kinda small so i always have direct contact with the head priest. Your guys videos resignated with me which led me to do some of my own research and it truly is the place for me. So thanks again. Your work really is creating converts. Im one of them.
I seen the clip of Anderson there and for a moment I thought, oh boy this will be short...
As a Lutheran I really enjoy this Channel (Probably bc im a high church Lutheran)
Have you read Luther’s letter on Sin and sin greatly? He sounded demonic. Also, remember he went from being a poor friar to dying €5.3 Million rich thanks to the Kings/Queens Monarchs who funded the separation of Church and State.
Also sait Ignatius of Antioch believed the eucarist was in fact the body of christ. If we can't believe Jesus, Who else should we believe? A direct disciple of the apostles or someone else?
This is absolute proof that when your mad you do indeed get more dumb🤦🏽
New favorite channel 💫🙏🏻
I'm currently a Baptist (in terms of what church I attend), but when I started to learn about theology and church history, it lead me to lean more Catholic. So far I only have been baptized. Would I need to be baptized again the catholic way or am I fine? And what steps after baptism would I need to take in order to become Catholic?
why not follow the Bible and be a Christian?
You wouldn’t have to get baptized again since you had a valid baptism. I’m am having a similar journey too (going from Baptist to Catholic) so I’ll pray for you brother.
@@mcchubbz2975 catholicism only sprinkles -- it makes mockery of Biblical Christianity -- it's not God's Church.
@@mcchubbz2975 why not choose Christianity and follow Jesus Christ , the Word of Truth?
catholicism isn't Christianity.
@@tony1685 You deny the trinity which makes you not a Christian.
Praise be to God for Voice of Reason! I love this channel!!! What a tremendous blessing you are to us all, and to the one true Universal and Apostolic Church!
I saw his instagram responding to your original video. It almost sounds like his entire being is satire.😂 the comment section was so funny. I know this "pastor" is way below your level, but please continue putting this heretic in his place sir.🙏
Remember the backdrop for the “bread of life discourse” is the “Passover” John 6:4
MAKE BRUCE (Aka someone with the temperament of the Hulk but not the physique) CATHOLIC!
It’s pretty sad when false prophets like Protestants get so many views but real Christian’s like voice of reason don’t
Alex this is why I love watching your videos because you go straight do it DEBATE!!!!!!!
The thief on the cross was still under the old covenant and so was not under any obligation to submit to Christian water baptism!
They get angry faster than me listenig to their "Constantine" brainrot-level argument
Another argument on the thief on the cross topic.... John was baptizing soooo many for at least several months... we have no way of knowing if the thief was baptized or not
Substance vs accidents… I have to look into that. I’ve never heard anyone say accidents referring to literally… great video ❤
You will probably want to look to Aristotle. He talks about those things in his Categories, I think. They are a part of how to reason through reality to come to an understanding.
As Christians we should PRAY for him & all the others. Especially during a rosery etc. Let's not do what they do & insult . We need to be humble like jesus... think about that (: with much love ❤️
I’m so blessed to be Catholic.
Be a followers of Jesus Christ not be a catholic 😂😂😂
Saying you can be saved without baptism clearly showed he didn't read the Bible. Or if he did, skipped over the fact Jesus himself was baptized.
So, was Moses baptised? Was he saved?
Alex! I need you to debate Allie Beth Stuckey… I think you’re the only Catholic that can do the job! 👏🏼😂
Bruce is a gnostic, he believes he has a special insight that overturns millennia of understanding, and he knows this insight to be true because he got a warm feeling in his chest when the idea popped into his head.
Be careful. This guy's in a colt. If you challenge him to a debate, he just might drink the coolaid to get out of it.
Careful of who😮
Not only does Jesus not clarify that he is speaking metaphorically in John 6, but the other metaphors that the guy mentioned do not have the same kind of intense typology pointing toward it. If we look at Melchizedek, Exodus 25 (Bread of the Real Presence), and Passover, we see that what Jesus is saying in John 6 is no mere metaphor. Jesus recalling the manna in the desert and calling his flesh the Bread of Life had great implications for Jewish people that calling himself a gate or a vine did not.
This makes perfect sense. It's always the thief on the cross who Protestants use as the maximum example. Your explanation makes sense. Keep up with the good work.
You can get saved without being baptised.
@@dodleymortune8422 Without baptism you are at the mercy of God. It will be up to God whether you are saved or not. God ordered us to be baptized and we must follow if we truly believe.
@@dannytrejo2628
No for the first phrase, because being baptise do not grantee you of salvation, it does not even saved in in of itself.
It's not like a cheat code that if you have you are no longer at the mercy of God.
Yes for the second sentence.
@@dodleymortune8422 baptism guarantee you of salvation as long as you can remain sinless until you die. Baptism cleans you of sin.
Byzantine bro;
Hey im Protestant but recently learnt on catholism and church history, please do suggest any video or book to deep dive and learn catholism that will lead me to catholic Church (from india)
Watch catholic production by Dr Grant Pitre is a must to learn catholic doctrine, Catholic Calture is another good one to learn church history, way of the fathers by Mike Aquilina and Jim Papandrea, Jim Papandrea also got his own channel, they goes through the all the early church fathers and the Council of Nicaea onward. GOd Bless
Read the Catechism of the Catholic Church which summarizes the Catholic beliefs in a comprehensive way.
Lots of good videos on Pints with Aquinas, or Trent Horn, Joe Heschmyer. Scott Hahn was a big help for me, the guys is brilliant and was a Protestant pastor at a church baisicaly teaching Catholisicms Eucharist in his church with out knowing it. His book "Rome sweet Home" would be a good one. I have a pile of books I've been going thru and hundreds of hours of videos on Catholisicm apologetics over the last 6 months. I'm going thru RCIA this year for a 2025 Easter Vigil baptism. The Hallow app is a great resource as well. God bless
Catholic Production and Catholic Calture, way of the fathers is really good also
thank you for this upload man!! keep going ;) i enjoy your content ☦️🖤
Thank You Voice of Reasons...
God bless you with Abundance Grace and Blessings. Our Lord Jesus Christ fill you with the Holy Spirit.
Charity work! *dust off hands*
Hola Alex. I don't see the link to that original video. Can you post and pin it here in the comments? Or in the description? Gracias. 🙏🏼
That mustard stain is cleaner than his imposed scriptorturist doctrine & reading comprehension. Protesting RUclipsrs like him make a living on misreping the ancient holy Catholic & Apostolic Church. Some help Mr Protester, the 2nd part of Mark 16:16 does not...absolutely in no way whatsoever, cancels out the 1st...that would be nonsensical & contradicting which our Lord does not do being the Son of God full of grace & truth. This thief on the cross grab is a special circumstance & doesnt even prove he wasnt baptized before he was crucified. We gotta put off the superficial self interp & learn the holy faith. Well done voice of reason, Pax Vobis
Yes , I felt he might have be Baptized during the time many people where being Baptized .
@@ronaldeglewski3073 yup...why not, it's just as saying he didn't get baptized but since He knew who Christ was, it's more plausible that he was baptized. This is never considered by Prots nm it being the only case like this in scripture
@@J-PLeigh8409 when protrstants bring up St. Dismas as the example ask them if thry base their faith always on the extra ordianry examples in the bible.
The get real quiet when you bring For example Jesus forgiving a man based on his friends’ faith! (Mark 2:5) whem you ask them if they think people are saved solely through thr faith of their friends
blessings to you!I love the way you talk,your voice and your teachings.
FIRST!!!
Jesus Christ is Lord and our God!
This wasn't a rap but I heard some barzz... chill barz 🤭🤭
Just had a conversation with a Protestant about John 6 and his claim was the verse where Jesus says in 51 that the bread He gives is His flesh for the life of the world is not about salvation.
Oh boy, oh boy! 😂 here we go! 🇻🇦
Haven't watched it yet, but I'm EXCITED! I'm glad reason is back.
There's only one man that didn't need to be baptized. Jesus Christ. And yet He STILL did.
Where in the bible does it say that the thief on the cross was not baptized?
I went on that guy's IG to see his responses to you. He is something else. Clearly the type that will consider any thoughts other than his own. Judging by his comments he thinks history is irrelevant and his own self revelation is all he needs. The dude needs prayers.
Insults are not Catholic dude! It makes us look proud. God bless!
All your videos thank you for your time 😃
love your work man, im an orthodox christian from serbia but i consider catholics my brethren i am all for ecumenical talk much love great content
Mark 16:16 "He who believes and is baptized will be saved, but he who does not believe will be damned." It is not necessary to add "and he who is not baptized will be damned" because if you do not believe, you are not going to submit to baptism. The way Protestants think of the sentence is that the second part is refuting the first part. But then if only lack of faith will damn you, then why did the first part say "believe and is baptized"?
It I said "He who gets an airline ticket and gets on the plane will get to Europe, but he who does not get an airline ticket will not travel." It is hardly necessary to say in the second part "he who does not get an airline ticket AND does not get on the plane". As far the good thief, the idea that since the good thief was not baptized then refutes Mark 16:16? As if Jesus forgot his own doctrine? No. Baptism was not put into effect until Pentecost. And even if baptism were in effect at the time of the good thief, the example of a dying person does not negate the commands for everyone else.
Excellent wrap up. I don’t think he will debate and if he does he will do what most ignorant people do - claiming that you said something you didn’t say or simply lying and then you are stuffed with having to defend yourself against a lie. I can’t stand most debates because most people are not willing to listen what the other person has to say or wants to say they just want to shout other people down and Bruce definitely is a shouter.
This man lead me to learn about church history and lead me to Catholicism. Even tho i lead aggressive comment. I was ignorant. I appreciate this man
Brother thank you! for defending the Catholic Church,. The TRUE church of Jesus Christ! Hope you debate this guy and destroy all his arguments with the TRUTH! God bless you! 🙏Can't wait to see more of your videos. 👍
You did a great job in this video representing our Catholic faith. Peace be with you
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Alex thank you for all the vids! I hope to be as knowledgeable as you so i can spread the word too. Glory to Jesus Christ 🙏🏽
Glory to Jesus Christ, I love watching your videos, your videos helped me grow closer to Christ 🙏✝️
Fire! Simply powerful!!
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