I got 61 average fps in WOKONG , same settings with a 5700X3D and a overclocked RX6600. Was fun to compare what my pc can do atm. Loved the race. Hope you do more crazy stuff like this in the future. Highest time spy with it is 8988.
just purchased a ROG Strix GTX 1070 O8G gaming GPU today for $115. curious to know if was a good buy. said it was new in box. ill find out in a few days
@@ToastyBroswouldn’t say that brotha! Y’all put good effort into videos, and even when you don’t put your all.. it seems like it. Y’all create good content brotha
Great work on the building of these 2 systems. Both performed very nicely. Maybe with more time to do searching the used option might get better to performance job.
Just updated my oldest sons computer. Was an i7 4790 now its a ryzen 5500. With a 2080. 32 gigs ddr4. Atx , 2t nvme . argb everything including a cheap tower cooler. All together we have around 600$ into it.
@@thecleanversion my little sister has the R5 3600 with an RTX 2060 super and I upgraded her to an RX 6800 from Amazon for about $300ish on summer sale, that R5 3600 is a beast, I would recommend keeping it all the way up to either an RTX 3070ti or RX 6800XT
The conclusion is pretty much what I thought. So many different ways to build a gaming rig . I'm thinking about going mostly new in an AM4 build, because the prices keep dropping.
them omen motherboards have the power switch pins on the top right and hdaudio on the top left which is why its routed up there. They do stuff so weird lol, but at least none of the connections are proprietary like they always used to be
Not a bad showing from both sides, though, why not hit up Amazon Resale/Warehouse and or local sales for used parts? Matt could’ve gotten a better case/PSU/mobo that way, a B450 goes for those prices new
I get that a bad PSU can wreck your whole system if there's a heavy surge and the protections fail, but odds are that will never happen. In a really inexpensive system made of easily replaceable components, a low-end PSU can actually make sense. I just got a combo deal on ebay -- a 4790K on a barely used high-end MSI Z87 ATX board (with updated BIOS) and 16GB of DDR3 1866 for $149. Works perfectly. I added a Corsair Air 540 case, a Cryorig H7 CPU cooler, and an RX-580 8GB ( I could upgrade to a 980Ti, a 1080Ti, or even a 2080Ti) from my spares locker. I bought a Teamgroup 1TB SATA SSD and a Segotep 750W PSU. Assigning zero cost to the parts I already had, I have
Recommending a Segotep is a little sus considering they subtly try to rip off Seasonic's aesthetics/ branding as well as using misleading box graphics that look like 80+ ratings but aren't. Segotep is every bit of a risk as that raptor PSU.
I paid in the used market for a second pc: Ryzen 5 3600 20 euro ASUS Prime B450M + 2x8 sticks of DDR4 3200mhz combo 50 euro Radeon RX 7600 8G OC 125 euro Thermalright Assassin King 120 SE 18 euro Cooler Master V550 Gold-V2 + case silencio s400 good as new for 15 euro's WD Black SN770 1TB still had this one Total cost was about 230 euros
Jack, does your grandpa know you are wearing his shorts? I love Jawa, everything I have bought there was fairly priced, arrived in a timely manner, and the people there (sellers and staff) have been friendly, and don't give me the sketchy ebay feeling.
Do a budget office pc vs the world series. Blind testing gamers in games they love then letting them rank the gaming experience 1 out of 10. Use top bang for buck office pcs (300-450) range Vs all manners of custom builds at all price points. Then do a chart to show how they differ in ranks. This will give yohr viewers a 20/20 look at where they want to put their money all in one series.
Damn $229 for a 6700, I bought a open box 7700 from microcenter for $222. Ebay prices are kinda redic. Also, B460 motherboard for $80! jesus I got a new b550m for $70 on newegg. Ebay sellers be trippin.
Love the channel and specially the challenges. I just wanted to see, in the last part of all videos, a quick table/ref. telling us AVG FPS per game. Since you guys usually try out only a few games, it should not take up all the screen. Just a thought, who knows ?
Bro said, im afraid of my perfomance scores and went on to build one of the sickest builds. that new built looked sick but id forego the RGB for a constant wwhite light. the blacks are proper
Ugh I use a damn Z230 Workstation I got off Amazon in 2020, any tips on someone who doesn't know anything about computers like can I upgrade it or should I buy a completely new PC??? CAN SOMEONE HELP ME?
@@BakedBeansYT1 well, you technically could upgrade it, but the CPU is too old and it would not really be worth it. I recommend getting a new PC, any PC as long as it's not a sff, or small form factor, with at least an i5-8500 or higher, then you can put a cheap GPU in like a GTX 1650. Hope this helps
How in the heck are you getting nice new RX 6600s for $179? Up here in Canada, the absolute cheapest new one is the basic ASUS Dual one for C$259 (US$190) and any of the nicer ones have shot up to at least US$260+ (presumably due to more limited stock these days).
It's tough to trust them on computer hardware after they built that HP Mini computer with the RX560, covered all the GPU airflow (no vents in the lid), didn't check the fan speed, let it throttle down to (at best) 1/3 the performance it's capable of, and then declared it a bad value.
I know deals vary, but I found a 6800 (non XT) for $190 buy it now. (Or make an offer, can't remember). Also can verify, bought that Apevia 500w PSU, installed 12100f and B660 with GTX970. It exploded in like 30 mins. Not worth $20 let alone $27.
If you want to think outside of the box and are using a low powered cpu, maybe consider a server psu :) you wont ever win on looks but value,.....you wont lose there
I think it's more due to the fact that PC part prices have been increasing (thanks Nvidia, that greed is really helpful), you probably need to go with a higher budget, like $750, to really see a noticeable performance difference.
I'm just starting a £500 build here in the UK. And there seems to be absolutely no value whatsoever going second hand here in the UK. I've got a Ryzen 5 5600 and Gigabyte B550. The only place I've really skimped is I've gone for a RX580 which isn't ideal. But saved me £200. And since I'm not going to be playing games like those shown here (mostly Microsoft flight sim) it should be OK short term to be updated later. Buying everything new came in at £500. Second hand couldn't find anything at less than 80% of new price which just isn't worth it.
I was busy doing something else as this video was playing in the background and I seriously thought they were going to race like in go cart ala Mario Kart. I was disappointed when they raced with remote control cars instead. Next time race in go carts.
Used had better specs. Older CPU but still capable and with more cores and threads and a better GPU, no doubt here. The only problem was that horrible case with proprietary parts. But I will take a 6 core above 4 cores every day of the week.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: You're the only tech channel that includes shipping charges on your final cost. All other major channels just handwave that away, which is unrealistic for a true budget and sets bad expectations/precedent. Thank you for keeping it real with all costs involved.
Hunt for the best deals by always checking Jawa.gg! - jawa.link/TBAug24
I got 61 average fps in WOKONG , same settings with a 5700X3D and a overclocked RX6600. Was fun to compare what my pc can do atm. Loved the race. Hope you do more crazy stuff like this in the future. Highest time spy with it is 8988.
just purchased a ROG Strix GTX 1070 O8G gaming GPU today for $115. curious to know if was a good buy. said it was new in box. ill find out in a few days
23:36 “They’re beating you off rn” is crazy work 😂
I like how they had Jawa as a sponsor and then proceeded to buy used pc parts from eBay 🤣 opportunity definitely missed there
Exactly😅
Sadly this is the rare instance where the video was filmed before the sponsor spot was finalized. 🥲
Jawa is legit but they dont really have deals. eBay is much cheaper almost always.
@@ToastyBrosweird, that would suggest that Jawa isn't better than ebay.
@@jamesbael6255it definitely isn't
Can we just skip to the final form of this channel, Matt and jack do silly random challenges for 20 min then build a pc
Its good content though, id rather watch this than anything else
And it out performs every other video we do by a mile
Gotta stack bread first
@@ToastyBroswouldn’t say that brotha! Y’all put good effort into videos, and even when you don’t put your all.. it seems like it. Y’all create good content brotha
@@ToastyBros Love you guys. Keep it up!
I loved the race, specially the last lap. It was so funny!
@safinaveed6775 Imagine Re-Volt adaptation of this scene. But with weapons.
10:48 can we talk about that raptor sound
The Omen was heating 🔥 up
But will it Bend fire?
There are front panel extension cables you can get for like $10 to solve the front panel issue in the HP Omen case.
Great work on the building of these 2 systems. Both performed very nicely. Maybe with more time to do searching the used option might get better to performance job.
Video starts at 1:18 if you want to skip the intro
Why would you want to skip their sponsored sections? Jawa is a good website.
Now gonna watch the video!
Just updated my oldest sons computer. Was an i7 4790 now its a ryzen 5500. With a 2080. 32 gigs ddr4. Atx , 2t nvme . argb everything including a cheap tower cooler. All together we have around 600$ into it.
@@FINNIUSORION that's not bad at all. Mine has a ryzen 5 3600 and a RTX 2060. Your son has a pretty good gaming rig now!
@@thecleanversion my little sister has the R5 3600 with an RTX 2060 super and I upgraded her to an RX 6800 from Amazon for about $300ish on summer sale, that R5 3600 is a beast, I would recommend keeping it all the way up to either an RTX 3070ti or RX 6800XT
@@christianviera8414 yeah, that's the CPU I have. I'm going to upgrade to a Rx 7700xt
@@thecleanversion that's a fantastic pick right now!!!
Mine has r5 3600 and rtx 2070 with 16gb ram! Want to throw in 32gb ram, R5 5800x3d and rtx 4060 or 3070
9:28 no thermal paste?
on the cooler
Toasty bros are just one of the best out there building pcs with their own they make. 😁
Your video editor deservses a raise!!! Awesome video!!!
You guys are really building a brand. Keep up the good work!
Lol the idea of the race was great. Good content, bros.
The conclusion is pretty much what I thought. So many different ways to build a gaming rig . I'm thinking about going mostly new in an AM4 build, because the prices keep dropping.
3:37 there is a option on eBay to view used only I use it all the time also is tax included in the prices.
1:45 bro caught a mad stray there LMAO
RIGHT?!
i think the RC racetrack competition is the best. every time just update the racetrack until you're inside racing actual go carts.
them omen motherboards have the power switch pins on the top right and hdaudio on the top left which is why its routed up there. They do stuff so weird lol, but at least none of the connections are proprietary like they always used to be
Man you guys have grown like crazy
i feel you with the omen case, just replaced a buddy's motherboard and PSU in one of those and it wasnt a great time
It looks fun on paper but in practice is not the move🤣
Not a bad showing from both sides, though, why not hit up Amazon Resale/Warehouse and or local sales for used parts? Matt could’ve gotten a better case/PSU/mobo that way, a B450 goes for those prices new
Good point! At the time I just figured used let’s do ebay but that would be a good way for more savings
went Amazon Warehouse for my 7900X and ended up getting a dead CPU; now getting a new 7900X which was on a very good £270 sale
@@ToastyBroscould have also hit up the sponsor of the video...
they like to deals any americans can do local can ruin that if the local market is expensive or nonexistent .
This might sound crazy for how far the computer industry has come but ; I wonder how well a fully maxed out AM3+ FX CPU build could do.
Nice build PC units again guys from your 500$ PC Build challenge w/ a twist from short race first then build a PC units on it! TY for the info!
I love when yall do these type of challenges
Absolutely enjoyed this video😀
I get that a bad PSU can wreck your whole system if there's a heavy surge and the protections fail, but odds are that will never happen. In a really inexpensive system made of easily replaceable components, a low-end PSU can actually make sense.
I just got a combo deal on ebay -- a 4790K on a barely used high-end MSI Z87 ATX board (with updated BIOS) and 16GB of DDR3 1866 for $149. Works perfectly. I added a Corsair Air 540 case, a Cryorig H7 CPU cooler, and an RX-580 8GB ( I could upgrade to a 980Ti, a 1080Ti, or even a 2080Ti) from my spares locker. I bought a Teamgroup 1TB SATA SSD and a Segotep 750W PSU. Assigning zero cost to the parts I already had, I have
I've used the Apevia Captain 550w in numerous customer builds with zero issues and $30ish. Great.price performance.
Love the Roadkill shirt!
Recommending a Segotep is a little sus considering they subtly try to rip off Seasonic's aesthetics/ branding as well as using misleading box graphics that look like 80+ ratings but aren't. Segotep is every bit of a risk as that raptor PSU.
I paid in the used market for a second pc:
Ryzen 5 3600 20 euro
ASUS Prime B450M + 2x8 sticks of DDR4 3200mhz combo 50 euro
Radeon RX 7600 8G OC 125 euro
Thermalright Assassin King 120 SE 18 euro
Cooler Master V550 Gold-V2 + case silencio s400 good as new for 15 euro's
WD Black SN770 1TB still had this one
Total cost was about 230 euros
Toasty Bros, cool content you deserve more subscribers
I've actually pulled quite a few Aprevia PSUs out of old prebuilts and they're usually still kicking.
9:32 no terminal paste 🔥☠️
Awesome vid Bros! Should include taxes and shipping as they are part of the budget, just my opinion though. Either way I enjoy the contests and vids.
Video starts at 2:55
starts at 0:00
As always a great video, love both PC I would not be unhappy with either. That was a great job 👍.
yay minnesota! 3:55
26:53 - Those are chestnuts, son...
I use Apevia in any build under $500. They are not bad if you dont stress them. Get one that is overkill for your pc it will last you a long time.
Is it good to pair the i5 12600kf with rtx 4060 ?
Yes obviously, 4060 is not that high end of a graphics card, the i5 12600f can handle it easy. Go for it
i like the new better even know preformance is lower then used ,its more upgradeable for future endevors would be my argument
If you update the bios, you can upgrade to a 5800x3d in the used rig.
603 views in 10mins? That's really good guys! Keep it up!
another good video Bros, and as always ....GO CATS !
maybe use the rocket on the warmachine arsenal using right click ( you can use just hold both left and right click )
Jack, does your grandpa know you are wearing his shorts?
I love Jawa, everything I have bought there was fairly priced, arrived in a timely manner, and the people there (sellers and staff) have been friendly, and don't give me the sketchy ebay feeling.
Awesome vid 😁
Do a budget office pc vs the world series.
Blind testing gamers in games they love then letting them rank the gaming experience 1 out of 10.
Use top bang for buck office pcs (300-450) range
Vs all manners of custom builds at all price points. Then do a chart to show how they differ in ranks.
This will give yohr viewers a 20/20 look at where they want to put their money all in one series.
Damn $229 for a 6700, I bought a open box 7700 from microcenter for $222. Ebay prices are kinda redic. Also, B460 motherboard for $80! jesus I got a new b550m for $70 on newegg. Ebay sellers be trippin.
*Nice looking build, great looking and decent price!*
Love the channel and specially the challenges. I just wanted to see, in the last part of all videos, a quick table/ref. telling us AVG FPS per game. Since you guys usually try out only a few games, it should not take up all the screen. Just a thought, who knows ?
So glad now I didn't end up buying an HP Omen after all. I did buy a pre-built however it had no proprietary parts in it. :)
I have a question for you
What processor do you use on your personal computer,
and why?
Hey! Jackson and I use Ryzen 7 5800x in our home PC's currently
you need to do scrapyard wars, everyone would love to see you 2 guys compete with a 3rd person to make it the best of 3 builds.
Make it a crossover competition with LTT to see who has the better used market between US and Canada.
Toastybros Vs PCBros?🧐
@@ToastyBros yes !!!!!!
@@ToastyBros i'm close to you guys, but the market in TN is very bad, i wish we had alot of Computer stores in East Tenn
How much would it be with a Frankenstein build. Both new and used from both pcs and the performance difference? Cool vid idea perhaps? 🤔
I love watching your videos
Bro said, im afraid of my perfomance scores and went on to build one of the sickest builds. that new built looked sick but id forego the RGB for a constant wwhite light. the blacks are proper
Ugh I use a damn Z230 Workstation I got off Amazon in 2020, any tips on someone who doesn't know anything about computers like can I upgrade it or should I buy a completely new PC??? CAN SOMEONE HELP ME?
you can always add more ram if its possible and mayby a gpu, for the gpu i would recomend a 1650, because it doesnt reguire external power cables
Pretty easy if you specify the specs, and maybe software like os. I could help if you have discord or a messenger
Here's the specs
HP Z230 Workstation Gaming Computer Desktop, Intel Core i5-4590, 8GB DDR3 RAM, 240GB SSD & 2TB HDD, USB 3.0, NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 2GB, HDMI, DVI, WiFi - Windows 10 Professional (Renewed)
@@BakedBeansYT1 well, you technically could upgrade it, but the CPU is too old and it would not really be worth it. I recommend getting a new PC, any PC as long as it's not a sff, or small form factor, with at least an i5-8500 or higher, then you can put a cheap GPU in like a GTX 1650. Hope this helps
Parts coming from Minnesota will be hot. Going through a small heatwave now
love the race
9:36 Chipotle ahh music 💀💀💀
"I could make red work." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
We had some downtime so me and my brother Warriors, USMC Fox Company site to watch that terrific race
When you were 16 dollars over. I would of went 250gb instead 500gb. Instead of stepping down on your gpu. Idk. That's just me.
I love A-Pray-Via PSUs 😅
Power supply should be the only thing NOT bought used. Thats asking for an “Austin Evans” moment.
You probably shouldn't but used storage and ram either
@ absolutely
HR is going to have a field day with this video
We are HR🗿
im so glad my rx6600 is still holding up in these youtube videos lol every day im afraid will be the one i got to sell my lung to buy a new one
How in the heck are you getting nice new RX 6600s for $179? Up here in Canada, the absolute cheapest new one is the basic ASUS Dual one for C$259 (US$190) and any of the nicer ones have shot up to at least US$260+ (presumably due to more limited stock these days).
It's tough to trust them on computer hardware after they built that HP Mini computer with the RX560, covered all the GPU airflow (no vents in the lid), didn't check the fan speed, let it throttle down to (at best) 1/3 the performance it's capable of, and then declared it a bad value.
That spiderman shirt is awesome
would love to see 2 unlimited budget go head to head to achieve the highest benchmark scores with money used factored into it.
I bet your stomach dropped when you saw the printer ink box instead of the 6700 one 😂
My man is an absolute iconoclast rocking white socks and sandals.
We're really out here setting fashion trends
I know deals vary, but I found a 6800 (non XT) for $190 buy it now. (Or make an offer, can't remember). Also can verify, bought that Apevia 500w PSU, installed 12100f and B660 with GTX970. It exploded in like 30 mins. Not worth $20 let alone $27.
You definitely got very lucky with that find. Non XT 6800s go for at least $100 more than that used.
I like the race
Yeah I like icecream 🍦
If you want to think outside of the box and are using a low powered cpu, maybe consider a server psu :) you wont ever win on looks but value,.....you wont lose there
I think it's more due to the fact that PC part prices have been increasing (thanks Nvidia, that greed is really helpful), you probably need to go with a higher budget, like $750, to really see a noticeable performance difference.
A different brand new case would make the used one better by a lot
I feel like if you spent a little more, the difference more significant.
18:00 the lil Trump voice comes out 🤣
Buying used PC parts shopping on eBay with a video sponsored by Jawa....
Did I miss something?
Why not shop on Jawa?
Sponsor was filmed after the video
I'm just starting a £500 build here in the UK. And there seems to be absolutely no value whatsoever going second hand here in the UK.
I've got a Ryzen 5 5600 and Gigabyte B550. The only place I've really skimped is I've gone for a RX580 which isn't ideal. But saved me £200. And since I'm not going to be playing games like those shown here (mostly Microsoft flight sim) it should be OK short term to be updated later. Buying everything new came in at £500. Second hand couldn't find anything at less than 80% of new price which just isn't worth it.
crazy how a used ryzen 5 3600 and b450m cost that much
The Henny bottle 🤣
Peter griffin is back!!!!!
I was busy doing something else as this video was playing in the background and I seriously thought they were going to race like in go cart ala Mario Kart. I was disappointed when they raced with remote control cars instead. Next time race in go carts.
Used had better specs. Older CPU but still capable and with more cores and threads and a better GPU, no doubt here. The only problem was that horrible case with proprietary parts. But I will take a 6 core above 4 cores every day of the week.
Mr Beast aah intro. love your videos.
matt be wearing so many kentucky basketball shirts. you just a fan, or are you from out here? lol
We are based in louisville KY, born and raised Kentucky fan fighting the good fight in the ville
@@ToastyBros LETS GO. REPRESENT FOR THE VILLE
What's the jawa uk equivalent?
that knock on the table is soo Filipino haha
Aquos 3 wins 🏆 👏
Didn’t you buy that gigabyte psu that used to blow up?
With microcenter deals at the time of me buying parts my 3600 was about the same price new
But I also don’t get that kind of fps unless I go performance mode, dx12 is really stuttery and laggy anyone know how to fix that
I've said it before and I'll say it again:
You're the only tech channel that includes shipping charges on your final cost.
All other major channels just handwave that away, which is unrealistic for a true budget and sets bad expectations/precedent.
Thank you for keeping it real with all costs involved.