KesselRunner I am a third generation GM truck owner. I am pissed off at GM for not offering the regular cab SWB truck for sale in the U.S. What kind of idiots are in charge of GM now days? People in Mexico can purchase one but we (red blood Americans) cannot? As Buford T. Justice said, “What the hell is the world coming to?”
@@sartainja Hahaha, we have prop down in MXO, we bought our Hilux and Silverado RCSB 6.2L down there, no issues. Hilux is almost built and ready for our trip with our new vario and sprinter vans, the Silverado is waiting for a Sierra RCSB, my wifes waiting, so we can build together and cruise this summer. First time no kids riding shotgun, our kids all have their own trucks too, so should be fun! I never understood why GM didnt offer it anymore stateside, kinda dumb.
@@sartainja GM are so lost and continue to ignore their core customers. They’re so worried about catering to the trendy “green new deal agenda” and being order followers to tyrants.
Sorry to be offtopic but does anyone know a tool to get back into an Instagram account? I stupidly forgot my password. I would appreciate any tips you can offer me.
You can order a regular cab F-150 at a dealership in Ga. with a coyote V-8 with a Ford supercharger added on it (650 hp) and it is covered bumper to bumper, you can't get that at GM.
Yeah, thx to chevy only offering the 4door, or long box, i am thinking of going ford myself... If the trailboss 2 door was offered here in canada, i would buy it in a heartbeat... But no, Chevrolet wants to loose customers.
I've been a GM owner nearly my entire life, however the fact they no longer make a regular cab short bed like Ford is going to be a big factor with my next purchase. I've watched several videos on youtube that show this configuration in a Ford F150, and I am sold.
@@elliotbernstein8755 Forgot to mention also heard at Ford might not be doing a regular cab short bed either Check out my page with my F150 at the drag strip
I just got rid of my '94 chevy shortbed z71 for my current '14 Silverado LT 4x4 RCLB. Been 15 years since I owned a long bed truck that I forgot what I was missing. I'll never own a short bed truck again.
The rustiest truck frame I ever owned was an F-150 with a painted frame. On the other hand I owned a 99' GMC 1/2 ton that was a plow truck it whole life and the frame was solid.
I totally agree. I have a 2020 Silverado RST, the dash is well laid out, easy to use, and not cluttered. I'm with you I do not need a gigantic screen, it's a truck that i like to drive
I absolutely agree. My 19 is so comfortable in accessing everything without cutting eyes off the road. May be, if I was in my 20s I would feeling more comfortable to work off of hanging tablet to set the A/C.
One of the things I really like about my F-150 is that you don't need the screen for hardly anthing. If they'd add a physical home button and allow you to cycle through preset sources instead of every single one it would be about perfect. I'm fine with somewhat larger screens, as they are nice for navigation and such, but only if they maintain large physical buttons that are easy to use with gloves on. Touch interfaces and menu layers for frequently used functions should be outlawed. Seriously. Honda does it probably the worst of anybody, they don't even give you a volume knob and it still runs on Android 4.1 which dates back to 2012. On top of that, it's not even large. Terrible.
The wax coating is the problem. Once the oxygen and humidity hit the metal oxidation starts. Then once you cover it the oxidation is self propagating. Example: a cold frame, for garden plant, keeps condensing every night even if they are not opened. The GM solution is the problem.
I think there's still a market for the regular cab, short bed truck. There's still two segments of buyers, in my opinion. One set of buyers are those who want a daily driver truck. They're looking for something for 2 to 3 passengers at max. Some others want something for a hot rod. Both pick a short bed because a long bed is just kind of impractical. Dropping the reg. cab, short bed could be counter-productive.
GM did hybrid fullsize SUVs 10 years ago. Hybrids shine in the city mpg. The regular 5.3 did 14 mpg city and the hybrid did 21 mpg city. The HWY figure only saw a 2 mpg difference - 20 mpg vs 22 mpg. Although the city mpg was actually a HUGE 50% improvement, part of the problem is the mpg method does not show this well enough. This is why metric countries use liters per 100km which makes comparing efficiency easier to understand. Going from 14 to 21 mpg is the equivalent of 16.8 to 11.2 L/100km. A 5.6 L reduction in fuel used in 100 km of driving. Lets say you improve again by 7 mpg, from 21 to 28 mpg. That's 11.2 to 8.4 L/100km. Only a 2.8 L reduction in fuel use. 50% less improvement in efficiency than going from 14 to 21 mpg. In both cases Americans see a 7 mpg improvement and treat them relatively the same, while the L/100 km method shows the real story. We could easily go to gallons per 100 miles to fix this. This is also why sweating over the difference in mpg for more efficient cars is mostly pointless. The actual fuel savings between 35 mpg and 40 mpg is very small. TLDR: The GM hybrid trucks provided huge increases in city MPG but know one cared because the numerical mpg improvements were too small to understand the real impact. Americans also care more about HWY mpg where there was no significant MPG improvement.
I bought my 2018 GMC Sierra Regular Cab 4WD in February 2019 they were getting hard to find I’m glad I found it at a dealership just 15 miles down the road.
At first I wasn’t convinced about the trailer bending the frame, but after watching a video of a 4Runner towing on a trail I saw how all the weight was on the back and it always wanted to lift front wheels when crawling over an obstacle.
Regarding the IFS, that's one of the major reason my mini fleet of trucks are F250's. I keep them 5 years, and they are gas (6.2). Was due to be replace in Autumn , but, at this point, the business in shut down due of the bug, depending of when we will be able to restart the business , I may stretch the 2015's trucks until next Spring. I have to assess the new F250's regarding the aluminum and if I still get the 6.2's or the 7.3's engine. Diesel are not require because we rarely tow, and when I do, the trailer is under 10K. I will dona business case, and depending of the cost of the insurance, I will choose from the 2500 Chev or the F250. I think the aluminum may affect the cost of the overall insurance cost?
Wow that was interesting and I learnt a lot. Looks like I’m keeping my 2013 gmc reg cab Shortbox 4x4 forever. Bought it new. 43000kilometers. Bone stock. Got an 08 Shortbox 2wd f150 too. Bought it new as well. Love them both. No way I ever buy a 4dr truck. Most of them sit outside all the time. Won’t fit in garage. Both my trucks look brand new cause I can easily fit them in my garage.
Yeah, you can still get almost anything if you want. Buuuut. It's fleet sales. Only available in white and is generally really base. Almost no one will find these on the lot. You want to buy 10 of them for cheap, step right up! 2 Door, short box, 2 wd, crank windows, bench seat and rubber floor mats. Plain jane V6. AM/FM radio. It's a penalty box to have your employees go to the jobsite, not to go in style. All 3 of the manufacturers offer them.
Great stuff. I like the tech details. On a side note, in 2009 headrest changed, they became taller and some time tilted forward. This is to prevent whiplash. I think you know all this already but i need to smart so I will just write it down. Head rest came to be to stop people from breaking there necks when rear ended. decades of studies later, i think mostly by Volvo, they released they could prevent whiplash by doing two things. Year head can not be more than inch away from the head rest. If you draw a line from center of your ears, to back of your head, the head rest can not be lower than that. and now back to the program everyone wanted.
Thanks and good point on the headrests. It’s of simple things changed and major things as well to make trucks safer. Some things people see and others they don’t.
I’ll be honest, GM has never had great interiors but no one ever cared. Fords always had a nice interior and much better in their top end trucks but Dodge needed something to separate themselves and chose interiors, and it’s worked like a charm for them. Tie rod problems also come in with mileage and lack of maintenance.
In the end depreciation will hit less because of the cost of the single cab. It's just more ergonomic in use and resale. If you want a family hauler you want safe, so that's going to affect it's use. So I think it just depends on your lifestyle. P.S I like both but there definitely an outfit ya gatta have the right one for the right jab.
In Mexico, they already Have single Cabs with V6 and V8s You can get a V6 single cab 2WD for around 22k. Thats the real reason they don't want to sell it in the US. Then they can't upset us on the trash we don't want
With the GM trucks, there is a problem with the front nose of the truck. It barely has enough ground clearance to pull out of a driveway. It only has an approach angle of 19 degrees, so the first thing you have to do after buying a new truck is to go out and buy and have installed a lift kit. Common, that is ridiculous. GM, you can't go over a speed bump, much less take the truck off road.
So just to correct you about the IFS, GM has been making IFS in 2wd trucks since the 60’s but what this question was addressing was 4wd, GM started making 4wd trucks with IFS in the late 80’s. the reason tie rods fail on the 4wd is due to the fact that they are trying to hold back the torque when you are in 4wd the tires want to drive themselves forward/inward.
Nice video, but I don't buy the CAFE reason for the standard cab short bed issue, the long bed standard cab is still sold, and that footprint is only 2 feet longer... It's because they don't sell AS much so not as much profit, and it's all about profit I get that. But it would be really nice if they would bring back these trucks in a base model for modding and a SS model for those who prefer to buy not build. With a min of the 6.2 to reduce the need to engine swap.
Sure, profit is part of it, but every engineer I've talked to with all the different automakers claims CAFE is what killed the reg cab, short bed. Those 2 feet make a difference.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Yeah but they could just be passing the blame too... I get it, everything will be electric before long anyway (except maybe the HD lineups). I guess at that point they can bring it back? But my dreams of a performance sport truck would be gone too. Thanks for the reply, subbed for future updates .
Awesome video thanks for sharing. A Chrysler Dealership told me. Dodge no longer makes single cab trucks. A Ford Dealership told me Ford no longer makes trucks with manual windows. I am looking for a plane short bed truck without the extras. For has Toll Packages on all there trucks. ""I don't need or want a toll package. That would save me Five Hundred Dollars right there. Thank you for asking questions for us.
I really enjoy your presentation and content. Your understanding of the economic, regulatory, engineering, and marketing of pickup trucks and SUVs is informative and helpful. Thank you.
As for the frame bending, if it wasn't such a stiff frame it could have absorbed much more energy in its flex before bending, but people love to have those smooth rides so you make a stiff frame so you can control all suspension movement in controlled and repeated results only in the suspension and not relying on the frame to help out at to be more predictable and complaint
In my opinion I think it’s silly to have a single cab AND a short bed. That’s like a double negative. If you’re gonna sacrifice rear doors your mag as well make up for it with a long ass bed… 2 door short beds also just look funky to me.
Cant be aggressive off road or they break. Was a issuenwith the h2 as well. Im pretty sure the 88-98 trucks had beefier components. Thankyou better fuel mpg and weight savings
It would be great if you could explain how the GMC Sierra AT4 4WD Hi/Lo works. I understand the rear is a G80 locker but I’d like to understand how the front two speed transfer case system works on these trucks. Thanks!
My only issue with Chevy is why do they only offer WT trim level for the reg cab long bed cause I would like a LTZ but I don't need or want a crew cab and I also don't want a short or standard bed I want a long bed and I want a reg cab but I guess it's cause it's a lot more popular to have a crew cab than a reg cab !
The thing about a million mile truck without rust on the frame, is that they are not hard miles. So it hasn't been exposed to the elements for 80 years. If someone puts a million on in 8-10 years its perfectly reasonable that it could have a clean chassis. Its has only been exposed to that many winters. Same as someone who drove their 100k truck in the same time period.
Tim your explanation of the big three bailouts in 2008 enlighten me, thanks. Although Chevy went belly up or bankrupt in 2008 yes they were bailed out and GM went on to thrive but left in the end shareholders holding a pink sheet. Bankruptcy=pink sheet, meaning GM shareholders were NOT bailed out, thus why I will never purchase their stock again let alone a GM vehicle, only a fool would or someone who is unaware of what happened in 2008. I invested in what I believed in and GM left us high and dry. “Common stock holders in the old General Motors were essentially wiped out, watching their shares morph into shares of Motors Liquidation. The common stock originally traded on the Pink Sheets but was later canceled. Meanwhile, shares of the new GM, which went public in 2010 have held up reasonably well. Shares of GM were initially priced at $33 a share, so those early investors are down, since the stock is trading for $29.10. But GM stock is up 50% from July 2012.” I hope I enlighten you.
I get your bitterness towards GM. You are not alone. But they're so many layers to that onion; from union corruption and greed to GM mismanagement from Smith's failures & and a 'whole new kinda car company'; Saturn, that never made a dime. Foreign operations that didn't work simply because they didn't want Americans telling them how to build cars. Can't forget DEPHI. GM kept food on our table for decades. I can't be bitter, humans run it.
You could classify me as bitter, but simply dismissing GMs as human behavior would be a costly submission. Here is some ill advice: Hey GM is only run by humans so go spend your hard earned pay check at one of their dealerships and then raise your glass of whiskey saying cheers! I’ve worked nearly for 40 years and bought three new trucks from the old GM and that is where my legacy has ended. Enough of my babbling, to each their own and may you live your life thinking “hey what ever”.
Here is the article I'm referring to: www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ceo-ventilator-maker-speaks-out-trump-invokes-defense-production-act-n1170881?fbclid=IwAR11-ZXBhwFfx8ihUH5Z2290zDOxWHo_PdZoW779hTKOPlY3TGain3s2VGk
CAFE is based on gross vehicle weight. Standard cab and short bed trucks still have higher GVW than cars so CAFE isn't as big of issue as consumer demand. Outside of maybe fleet buyers, there isn't much demand. Consumers like using trucks like the cars they displaced. 4 doors are in demand. Short bed and standard cabs are less so. Short bed crew cabs sell. Short bed standard cabs don't.
We had 86 and 87 Chevy 1 tons with solid front axles. I do see people having lots of issues with your sense making 😂 I’m fine with two people and one bags of small rocks.
The C3500HD model trucks ( in the GMT400 body style) ran solid front axles, king pins and leaf springs through 2002. They primarily had 6.5's and 454's but the last 2 years ran the 8.1 and the 6.5. They only came 2wd although aftermarket companies made 4wd versions. They are more like what Ford calls a 4500 and 5500 and the same with Ram as they had 19.5" rims and whatnot.
Fuck solid front axle illl take my pushbutton IFS 4x4 front axle that rides way better. I get typically 300 000km out of a ifs rebuild. Fuck manual locking hubs fuck the shit ride and handling from solid front axle I'll keep my IFS!
CAFE and wheelbase are interlinked on mileage regulation standards. Got It. But....the regular cab short box Silverado/Sierra has historically been about the same wheelbase as the regular Tahoe/Yukon, so what gives on this and the CAFE argument. Inquisitive minds want to know. Thanks.
I still don’t care about interior of a truck. Give me a radio with Bluetooth, 4 nice speakers with good bass, soft Chevy seats ac and heat n that’s it. Which is why I have an 03 Sierra extended cab. Holds 4 adults and 2 kids comfortably and hauls as much as I need.
Thanks for the talk. I would rather buy the truck and add the wax coating. It will last longer. As for regular cab, I see you can still buy most full size trucks with a small v8, which is good, but Tundra is what I would like. That won't happen now. I do hope the new Dacota will have a regular cab sport truck. I think Dodge should bring back the 4.7 with variable cylinder management as an option. Thanks
For Me, a SWB 4x4 is best for Off-Road. 2wd and 4 doors is fine for the street but a joke dragging it's guts in the dirt. Let the 4x4 offer the option for a useful wheelbase.
I’d rather have E coating with the boxed frames. Cars don’t rot because water hits metal, they rot when water sits on metal. Or from chemicals, or salt. That’s why lower doors and trunks and even frames. They rot from the inside, not from a scratch that dries. Ford has always had a thicker metal also, and that helps. There will always oddballs that rot out. The Zr2 Frame might have done what it was supposed to but it seemed to do it awful easily. Unless he was lying about how he was driving. The GM thing is a who do you believe. The biggest problem I have with GM isn’t the $8 billion they needed it was the $55 billion they took and kept. They also let or had to let Obamas crew run the company and with that they screwed so many people out of what was owed. The Money they took was only part of it, they screwed all the stock holders. My friend lost almost $10k when they changed the stock. The only people that didn’t get screwed was the unions. They are still living on that money. It’s a huge advantage for them and those BS commercials they ran saying they paid all their money back early was a flat out lie.
Sure rot is caused by the elements sitting on the metal. My point with the scrape is it is easier for rust to form with the metal is exposed. And yeah, the ZR2 driver was certainly driving way faster than he should have been driving with that trailer.
The 27,000 views of this video proves that there is still a demand for regular cab short bed trucks assuming people are viewing it because of the cover image. CAFE didn't kill the smaller wheelbase pickup. CAFE's implementation gave the big three an advantage over manufacturer's that build smaller vehicles with better fuel economy. The most profitable platform for the big three has historically been the half ton pickup market and if fuel economy standards would have been the same for light trucks as it was (is) for passenger vehicles the big three may not have continued to exist. So, what we are seeing now is the morphing of light trucks into passenger vehicles replacing the family sedan. None of this has anything to do with what the consumer wants. It has more to do with the self preservation of the big three auto manufacturers. When fuel prices rocket back up to above $4/gallon, sales for the so called "in demand" crew cab tiny bed light truck models will shrink dramatically as companies that still offer fuel (liquid or solid) efficient small and mid-sized vehicles will prosper. The big three will need yet another bail out by the American taxpayers.
@@chippi3878 no such thing as raptor single cabs and the Tacoma’s they stopped making them around 2013-14 so people buy those Tacoma’s single cabs and upgrade the front end and wheels to a 2018-19-20
@@fakundofederico5658 For raptors they cut a Supercab or they switch the beds and suspension and front end to make a raptor clone. About the Tacoma I not sure unless they cut a long bed or a extended cab. But also México has more options for truck trims
And here I was thinking a RCSB with a 6.2 and 10 speed would be pretty fun... 420 hp in a regular cab no bueno? 700hp in a corvette no problemo? CAFE seems like more of a car guy
I had a 2018 GMC Sierra 2500 HD and I traded for the 2020 Chevy Silverado 1500 trail boss one month ago. I was going to buy the Ram 1500 Laramie but believe it or not I did not like it because of the interior. I really love the Chevy interior more because of the functionality and the simplicity.
The frame issue has to do more with GM frames as in Colorado canyon bending TO EASY.... I pull a travel trailer that is 6000 lbs and a tongue wt of 700 lbs. I hit a dip in the road on the highway and it bottomed out very hard. I now notice a difference in the gap between the bed and the cab. They are badly designed frames. Bar none..... What I don’t understand is why companies can’t get through there greedy heads that if you build a quality product customers will buy. Time to wake up to reality. Build your vehicle with the low binder and you will pay the price in the end...
The bail out money is not the issue. The issue is Ford has never gone bankrupt and not repaid their debts to the government. FCA and GMC have both kept government money and not repaid the government many times over the years.
@@Pickuptrucktalk dig a little deeper. The US and Canadian governments both wrote off loans that remained unpaid by FCA. GM paid back it's loans from 2008 but split their stocks to steal the money from their share holders to do it. They have both also gone bankrupt multiple other times over the decades. Ford and Tesla are the only companies that haven't. Ever.
Increasing tie rod size to an adequate level would add an insignificant amount of weight. It's a valid concern and question that addresses a weak point to GM heavy duty suspension especially. Your answer about "Chevy has been using independent suspension for 50 years" is misleading at best. Chevy also used solid axles until I believe up into the 90's on its R/V legacy series. Your statement that tie rod breakage is a result of overloading your vehicle is way oversimplified and off target. I have seen tie rods break and bend on empty trucks on very mild off-road trails. Look the aftermarket exists to address these inadequacies. IFS can be made to be sufficiently strong, the military Humvee is an example. GM took the IFS route on it's HD trucks many years ago and that's their prerogative. But in my opinion and others who actually own these set ups Tie rods and CV axles are a joke at best when compared to the durability found in competitor's solid fronts
If you can buy a single cab short bed V-8 in other countries but not here that’s a bunch of bs yes the demand is low but yet should still be offered .. they’re losing out on market share doesn’t matter if it’s a small percentage you got a think generational.
I think they need to streamline a little better. Drop the 4 banger. Use the 5.3 and 6.2. 6 speed and 10. Or only 10? Seems like brands like toyota have better reliability due to less options? And I want to know if the 8sp in the Colorado has been fixed? Want one. But not after reading the horror stories about those transmissions.
For GM ya hahaha, my sons 6.4 ram was cheaper and has had less problems then his 5.3L TB hahaha has better tech and options...AND comes in RCSB, GM dropped the ball...
Tim, I'm sorry that I missed the live stream of this show. I wanted to have you ask Chevy about the 2020 Silverado 3.0 Duramax "diesel off-road package" from the fleet build guide. What are the differences with it and the Trail Boss which is not currently offered with the diesel option.
@@Pickuptrucktalk .... B4U Diesel Off-Road Package, includes (GT4) 3.73 axle ratio, (R3O) LT275/65R18C MT Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac blackwall tires and (VOZ) Tri-fold hard tonneau cover, LPO 1 - Requires 4WD model, (LM2) Duramax 3.0L Turbo-Diesel I6 engine and (Z71) Z71 Off-Road Package. Crew Cab models include (BVT) Chrome assist steps. Not available with (PCQ) LT Value Package, (NHT) Max Trailering Package, (VYU) Snow Plow Prep Package, (PDZ) Z71 Off-Road and Protection Package, (RD4) 20" aluminum wheels with Argent metallic pockets, (QAB) or (QAE) tires, (PDW) Assist Step and Tonneau Value Package, LPO, (PDE) Wheel to Wheel Assist Step and Tonneau Value Package, LPO or any other assist step or tonneau cover. 2 - Requires 4WD model, (LM2) Duramax 3.0L Turbo-Diesel I6 engine and (Z71) Z71 Off-Road Package. Crew Cab models include (BVT) Chrome assist steps. Not available with (PCR) RST Value Package, (STH) Rally Edition, (NHT) Max Trailering Package, (PDZ) Z71 Off-Road and Protection Package, (RD4) 20" aluminum wheels with Argent metallic pockets, (QAB) or (QAE) tires, (PDW) Assist Step and Tonneau Value Package, LPO, (PDE) Wheel to Wheel Assist Step and Tonneau Value Package, LPO or any other assist step or tonneau cover.
Re hybrids, Ford F150 does have the powerboost which is a full hybrid and has all the payload, towing, even better acceleration and with much better mileage (esp city) than a stock F150. So, kinda negates your argument hybrids don't really work in the truck segment. Id like to see Chevy do a real hybrid not a light hybrid in the full size truck segment. Maybe even a diesel hybrid...
I would really love to know when they plan to offer the 10 speed auto with the 6.6l gas HDs. Another thing I’d like to see them do is add heated rear seats to the cloth interiors. They have had heated front cloth seats for years.
I hope. We have a SS Camaro with the 10 speed and while I’m sure the tuning is totally different it truly is an awesome transmission. There’s never a point it doesn’t have the engine in its power band. I’m not sure how much difference there will be going from the 8 speed to the 10 speed, but I think going from 6-10 will be a noticeable difference, especially in towing.
If ford can offer and still sell them, then chevy can too. Not everybody wants a large crewcab truck. It seems like gm is offering less and less even though the car segment has gone away.
Chevy Aveo,really? Yes,I remember. SONIC Took it's place. Not a fair comparison. Suvs are way more popular and many more are made so an suv nameplate is gonna be more popular. What seems to be missing is the the new Blazer is a disgrace to the blazer heritage. Just as the olds QUAD 442 was to the 442 heritage or the redesigned FWD Mercury cougar of the mid 90's was to the Cougar name. Anyone remember those? (Easy to forget)
I have a question, did the 1999 Silverado come with a 5.7 v8? Because I just imported a Chevy Cheyenne from mexico recently and its a single cab that has the nbs body style with a 5.7l v8. Im just confused since I thought they only came with the 4.3, 4.8, and 5.3. Idk if its because its a Mexican pickup and they put different engines in it, its just weird.
4.10s no. They don’t see much gain according to the engineers over the lower gears based on their testing. That was a question I was very curious to have answered. On 10 speed? That’s just a matter of time I think.
if anyone knows please help me. I got a long bed, regular cab pick up. V8 engine. what can it tow? I heard 8,000 t0 13,000 but idk. someone please help!
Regular cab sales are also down to about 5% of fullsize truck sales. The CAFE footpront rules is also why we will never see a V8 fullsize two-door Blazer-like SUV. Too short. Maybe there is an opportunity an an EV.
That’s one way to see it. My point being Ford was for the bailouts and definitely benefited from the industry receiving them. The timing of their loans and wording is political maneuvering at its finest. www.factcheck.org/2011/09/ford-motor-co-does-u-turn-on-bailouts/
Ford mortgaged the farm so to speak before the banks stopped lending because they were in deep do-do as compared to GM. GM was doing better (Better balance sheet) but that's relative, the delay in doing what Ford did probably caused them valuable time which they didn't have once the banks stopped lending and the economy took a nose dive. Bankruptcy was inevitable after that time. GM would have done the same thing if the tables were turned to save the supplier base as Ford did.
Regular cab, standard bed. The only configuration I would actually buy and they can't sell it...
KesselRunner I am a third generation GM truck owner. I am pissed off at GM for not offering the regular cab SWB truck for sale in the U.S.
What kind of idiots are in charge of GM now days? People in Mexico can purchase one but we (red blood Americans) cannot?
As Buford T. Justice said, “What the hell is the world coming to?”
@@sartainja Hahaha, we have prop down in MXO, we bought our Hilux and Silverado RCSB 6.2L down there, no issues. Hilux is almost built and ready for our trip with our new vario and sprinter vans, the Silverado is waiting for a Sierra RCSB, my wifes waiting, so we can build together and cruise this summer. First time no kids riding shotgun, our kids all have their own trucks too, so should be fun!
I never understood why GM didnt offer it anymore stateside, kinda dumb.
@@sartainja GM are so lost and continue to ignore their core customers. They’re so worried about catering to the trendy “green new deal agenda” and being order followers to tyrants.
Same reason they slapped the blazer name on a glorified minivan
Sorry to be offtopic but does anyone know a tool to get back into an Instagram account?
I stupidly forgot my password. I would appreciate any tips you can offer me.
70 years of info from a knowledgeable individual. Talented man thanks for the insight
You can order a regular cab F-150 at a dealership in Ga. with a coyote V-8 with a Ford supercharger added on it (650 hp) and it is covered bumper to bumper, you can't get that at GM.
The 2021 F150 Reg short bed still available. Nice 4200 lb truck with a 400 hp 5.0.
Very good build never knew about thank you
@@hunnterful1 also with a 10 speed trans
Yeah, thx to chevy only offering the 4door, or long box, i am thinking of going ford myself... If the trailboss 2 door was offered here in canada, i would buy it in a heartbeat... But no, Chevrolet wants to loose customers.
Dats the dream truck
420hp. Tunes will improve power and shift feel.. doesn't take much to make an f150 faster than the Challenger
I love my short bed reg cab
Short bed short boxes have a unique towing ability that is veryy overlooked. They practically fit anywhere with your trailer.
I've been a GM owner nearly my entire life, however the fact they no longer make a regular cab short bed like Ford is going to be a big factor with my next purchase. I've watched several videos on youtube that show this configuration in a Ford F150, and I am sold.
Went down the F150 road myself after 45 years of GMC shot box standard cab pickups.
@@elliotbernstein8755 ram does not even have a regular cab in the new gen let alone regular cab short bed
@@elliotbernstein8755 Forgot to mention also heard at Ford might not be doing a regular cab short bed either Check out my page with my F150 at the drag strip
they actually do. In the Work Truck configuration
I just got rid of my '94 chevy shortbed z71 for my current '14 Silverado LT 4x4 RCLB. Been 15 years since I owned a long bed truck that I forgot what I was missing. I'll never own a short bed truck again.
The rustiest truck frame I ever owned was an F-150 with a painted frame. On the other hand I owned a 99' GMC 1/2 ton that was a plow truck it whole life and the frame was solid.
Then I might as well move from the Midwest to the Rio Grande Valley that way I can see lots of regular cab short bed trucks coming from Mexico.
I like the simplicity of the GM interior. When Ram upgraded their interiors it was like 1994 all over again.
what happened in 1994?
I think regular cabs and extend cabs look so much better than the 4 door models.
They sell them in the middle east we have aton of them in the emirates
I like my 2019 Silverado interior and physical buttons and dislike giant touchscreens
I totally agree. I have a 2020 Silverado RST, the dash is well laid out, easy to use, and not cluttered. I'm with you I do not need a gigantic screen, it's a truck that i like to drive
I absolutely agree. My 19 is so comfortable in accessing everything without cutting eyes off the road. May be, if I was in my 20s I would feeling more comfortable to work off of hanging tablet to set the A/C.
One of the things I really like about my F-150 is that you don't need the screen for hardly anthing. If they'd add a physical home button and allow you to cycle through preset sources instead of every single one it would be about perfect. I'm fine with somewhat larger screens, as they are nice for navigation and such, but only if they maintain large physical buttons that are easy to use with gloves on. Touch interfaces and menu layers for frequently used functions should be outlawed. Seriously.
Honda does it probably the worst of anybody, they don't even give you a volume knob and it still runs on Android 4.1 which dates back to 2012. On top of that, it's not even large. Terrible.
Me to, what they should is to take the Topkick interior and update it and put in next year models.
tommays56 infotainment system is super easy to use and buttons are easy to find.
The wax coating is the problem. Once the oxygen and humidity hit the metal oxidation starts. Then once you cover it the oxidation is self propagating. Example: a cold frame, for garden plant, keeps condensing every night even if they are not opened. The GM solution is the problem.
We need single cabs
I think there's still a market for the regular cab, short bed truck. There's still two segments of buyers, in my opinion. One set of buyers are those who want a daily driver truck. They're looking for something for 2 to 3 passengers at max. Some others want something for a hot rod. Both pick a short bed because a long bed is just kind of impractical. Dropping the reg. cab, short bed could be counter-productive.
GM did hybrid fullsize SUVs 10 years ago. Hybrids shine in the city mpg. The regular 5.3 did 14 mpg city and the hybrid did 21 mpg city. The HWY figure only saw a 2 mpg difference - 20 mpg vs 22 mpg. Although the city mpg was actually a HUGE 50% improvement, part of the problem is the mpg method does not show this well enough. This is why metric countries use liters per 100km which makes comparing efficiency easier to understand. Going from 14 to 21 mpg is the equivalent of 16.8 to 11.2 L/100km. A 5.6 L reduction in fuel used in 100 km of driving. Lets say you improve again by 7 mpg, from 21 to 28 mpg. That's 11.2 to 8.4 L/100km. Only a 2.8 L reduction in fuel use. 50% less improvement in efficiency than going from 14 to 21 mpg. In both cases Americans see a 7 mpg improvement and treat them relatively the same, while the L/100 km method shows the real story. We could easily go to gallons per 100 miles to fix this.
This is also why sweating over the difference in mpg for more efficient cars is mostly pointless. The actual fuel savings between 35 mpg and 40 mpg is very small.
TLDR: The GM hybrid trucks provided huge increases in city MPG but know one cared because the numerical mpg improvements were too small to understand the real impact. Americans also care more about HWY mpg where there was no significant MPG improvement.
Exactly.
I buy a fully loaded GMC Sierra regular short box Z71 6.2 tomorrow if they would offer it.
Better yet GMC Sierra AT4 reg cab short Bed 6.2 10 speed
I bought my 2018 GMC Sierra Regular Cab 4WD in February 2019 they were getting hard to find I’m glad I found it at a dealership just 15 miles down the road.
Nice! The trucks I'm referring to in this video are the short bed variety like the old sport trucks.
At first I wasn’t convinced about the trailer bending the frame, but after watching a video of a 4Runner towing on a trail I saw how all the weight was on the back and it always wanted to lift front wheels when crawling over an obstacle.
More safe.... How do I feel about that? I drive a lifted Suzuki samurai with a turbo installed...
Just had to give you a thumbs up if you drive a turbocharged and lifted Samurai!
You are a man among boys!
👍🏻👍🏻
So does my son and my wife, one has a turbo 5.3L LS hahaha, other a 4.0 toyota 6, supercharged. Scary little things...
Regarding the IFS, that's one of the major reason my mini fleet of trucks are F250's. I keep them 5 years, and they are gas (6.2). Was due to be replace in Autumn , but, at this point, the business in shut down due of the bug, depending of when we will be able to restart the business , I may stretch the 2015's trucks until next Spring. I have to assess the new F250's regarding the aluminum and if I still get the 6.2's or the 7.3's engine. Diesel are not require because we rarely tow, and when I do, the trailer is under 10K. I will dona business case, and depending of the cost of the insurance, I will choose from the 2500 Chev or the F250. I think the aluminum may affect the cost of the overall insurance cost?
Insurance companies have told me the cost difference is zip when comparing the steel to aluminum trucks. I’ll be curious what you find out.
i wanna get like a 2014 silverado single cab short bed
I just want a regular cab, short box manual in a 2020 GMC. Lol
Not likely to ever happen again.
Get one in Mexico and ship it to USA
@@eliceoduran5370 It’s not legal.
@@atx-cvpi_99 there is people in Cali that have Cheyenne’s from Mexico here
Wow that was interesting and I learnt a lot. Looks like I’m keeping my 2013 gmc reg cab Shortbox 4x4 forever. Bought it new. 43000kilometers. Bone stock. Got an 08 Shortbox 2wd f150 too. Bought it new as well. Love them both. No way I ever buy a 4dr truck. Most of them sit outside all the time. Won’t fit in garage. Both my trucks look brand new cause I can easily fit them in my garage.
Thanks for watching and yeah hold onto those trucks.
You said kilometres so I assume your in Canada and in Canada we actually can have single cabs
From GM? Really? Do you have to order this configuration, because I have not seen one on a dealer's lot, or on the road.
Frank Dawe I have but they were base models
Yeah, you can still get almost anything if you want. Buuuut. It's fleet sales. Only available in white and is generally really base. Almost no one will find these on the lot. You want to buy 10 of them for cheap, step right up! 2 Door, short box, 2 wd, crank windows, bench seat and rubber floor mats. Plain jane V6. AM/FM radio. It's a penalty box to have your employees go to the jobsite, not to go in style. All 3 of the manufacturers offer them.
Great stuff. I like the tech details. On a side note, in 2009 headrest changed, they became taller and some time tilted forward. This is to prevent whiplash. I think you know all this already but i need to smart so I will just write it down. Head rest came to be to stop people from breaking there necks when rear ended. decades of studies later, i think mostly by Volvo, they released they could prevent whiplash by doing two things. Year head can not be more than inch away from the head rest. If you draw a line from center of your ears, to back of your head, the head rest can not be lower than that. and now back to the program everyone wanted.
Thanks and good point on the headrests. It’s of simple things changed and major things as well to make trucks safer. Some things people see and others they don’t.
I’ll be honest, GM has never had great interiors but no one ever cared. Fords always had a nice interior and much better in their top end trucks but Dodge needed something to separate themselves and chose interiors, and it’s worked like a charm for them. Tie rod problems also come in with mileage and lack of maintenance.
Wait a minute. What about the 2000-2008 GMC Sierra's interiors they are good. And dont forget the Topkick
In the end depreciation will hit less because of the cost of the single cab. It's just more ergonomic in use and resale. If you want a family hauler you want safe, so that's going to affect it's use. So I think it just depends on your lifestyle. P.S I like both but there definitely an outfit ya gatta have the right one for the right jab.
In Mexico, they already Have single Cabs with V6 and V8s
You can get a V6 single cab 2WD for around 22k. Thats the real reason they don't want to sell it in the US. Then they can't upset us on the trash we don't want
With the GM trucks, there is a problem with the front nose of the truck. It barely has enough ground clearance to pull out of a driveway. It only has an approach angle of 19 degrees, so the first thing you have to do after buying a new truck is to go out and buy and have installed a lift kit. Common, that is ridiculous. GM, you can't go over a speed bump, much less take the truck off road.
I really need a Short Bed, Reg. Cab 6.2L
That would be fun!
Same here we have to go to mexico i saw someone in tik tok posting they got one
Would love a 4x4 midsized all electric truck...Colorado, Frontier, Ranger!!!
They are working on it.
I would buy a reg cab short bed.ltz today eazy to park and drive and wash better on gas fit in garage and looks great!!!!!!
My dad used to have one of those single cab trucks back in the 90s and it was beautiful, now the trucks looks so ugly with double cab aghhh.
So just to correct you about the IFS, GM has been making IFS in 2wd trucks since the 60’s but what this question was addressing was 4wd, GM started making 4wd trucks with IFS in the late 80’s. the reason tie rods fail on the 4wd is due to the fact that they are trying to hold back the torque when you are in 4wd the tires want to drive themselves forward/inward.
Nice video, but I don't buy the CAFE reason for the standard cab short bed issue, the long bed standard cab is still sold, and that footprint is only 2 feet longer... It's because they don't sell AS much so not as much profit, and it's all about profit I get that. But it would be really nice if they would bring back these trucks in a base model for modding and a SS model for those who prefer to buy not build. With a min of the 6.2 to reduce the need to engine swap.
Sure, profit is part of it, but every engineer I've talked to with all the different automakers claims CAFE is what killed the reg cab, short bed. Those 2 feet make a difference.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Yeah but they could just be passing the blame too... I get it, everything will be electric before long anyway (except maybe the HD lineups). I guess at that point they can bring it back? But my dreams of a performance sport truck would be gone too. Thanks for the reply, subbed for future updates
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People nowadays don’t know what the hell they want I know regular cab short bed was always popular wish they would bring them back
Awesome video thanks for sharing. A Chrysler Dealership told me. Dodge no longer makes single cab trucks. A Ford Dealership told me Ford no longer makes trucks with manual windows. I am looking for a plane short bed truck without the extras. For has Toll Packages on all there trucks. ""I don't need or want a toll package. That would save me Five Hundred Dollars right there. Thank you for asking questions for us.
I could go for a RCSB hybrid. Wow that is a thought right there.
I really enjoy your presentation and content. Your understanding of the economic, regulatory, engineering, and marketing of pickup trucks and SUVs is informative and helpful. Thank you.
Wow. Thanks! I was just going off what I know and didn't really expect this much reaction from this video. I've been pleasantly surprised.
As for the frame bending, if it wasn't such a stiff frame it could have absorbed much more energy in its flex before bending, but people love to have those smooth rides so you make a stiff frame so you can control all suspension movement in controlled and repeated results only in the suspension and not relying on the frame to help out at to be more predictable and complaint
Absolutely true.
I only buy regular cab with standard bed. Looks like it's F-150 or nothing. I will custom order it the way I want.
As long as they keep making a crew cab with a 6.2 it’s all good to me!!
In my opinion I think it’s silly to have a single cab AND a short bed. That’s like a double negative. If you’re gonna sacrifice rear doors your mag as well make up for it with a long ass bed… 2 door short beds also just look funky to me.
Some people, like me , use them for daily drivers. If you don't like them, then buy one, it's all about choices.
Those tie rod ends are snapping on 4X4 trucks because of the launch and the extra horse power people getting out of them via chips and power adders.
Good point. I should have mentioned that as well. Basically if you use or modify your truck outside of the truck’s parameters things will break.
Cant be aggressive off road or they break. Was a issuenwith the h2 as well. Im pretty sure the 88-98 trucks had beefier components. Thankyou better fuel mpg and weight savings
It would be great if you could explain how the GMC Sierra AT4 4WD Hi/Lo works. I understand the rear is a G80 locker but I’d like to understand how the front two speed transfer case system works on these trucks. Thanks!
I’ll add it to my list. Thanks.
they crank the torsion bars up and it take more wight off the front of the trucks when pulling. of you let them down they don’t brake “AS” bad lol
Just buy it in Mexico and export it to the US
How about another Syclone or Typhoon? Those were great vehicles.
CAFE. Sorry! That killed them.
So was the colorado 5.3. Same problem though
My only issue with Chevy is why do they only offer WT trim level for the reg cab long bed cause I would like a LTZ but I don't need or want a crew cab and I also don't want a short or standard bed I want a long bed and I want a reg cab but I guess it's cause it's a lot more popular to have a crew cab than a reg cab !
The thing about a million mile truck without rust on the frame, is that they are not hard miles. So it hasn't been exposed to the elements for 80 years. If someone puts a million on in 8-10 years its perfectly reasonable that it could have a clean chassis. Its has only been exposed to that many winters. Same as someone who drove their 100k truck in the same time period.
Sure, the more you put hard miles on a piece of machinery, the faster it wears out. No argument there!
They use old nameplates because they already have the rights to the name. If they changed the name they would have to get a new copyright.
Tim your explanation of the big three bailouts in 2008 enlighten me, thanks. Although Chevy went belly up or bankrupt in 2008 yes they were bailed out and GM went on to thrive but left in the end shareholders holding a pink sheet. Bankruptcy=pink sheet, meaning GM shareholders were NOT bailed out, thus why I will never purchase their stock again let alone a GM vehicle, only a fool would or someone who is unaware of what happened in 2008. I invested in what I believed in and GM left us high and dry. “Common stock holders in the old General Motors were essentially wiped out, watching their shares morph into shares of Motors Liquidation. The common stock originally traded on the Pink Sheets but was later canceled.
Meanwhile, shares of the new GM, which went public in 2010 have held up reasonably well. Shares of GM were initially priced at $33 a share, so those early investors are down, since the stock is trading for $29.10. But GM stock is up 50% from July 2012.” I hope I enlighten you.
I get your bitterness towards GM. You are not alone. But they're so many layers to that onion; from union corruption and greed to GM mismanagement from Smith's failures & and a 'whole new kinda car company'; Saturn, that never made a dime. Foreign operations that didn't work simply because they didn't want Americans telling them how to build cars. Can't forget DEPHI. GM kept food on our table for decades. I can't be bitter, humans run it.
You could classify me as bitter, but simply dismissing GMs as human behavior would be a costly submission. Here is some ill advice: Hey GM is only run by humans so go spend your hard earned pay check at one of their dealerships and then raise your glass of whiskey saying cheers! I’ve worked nearly for 40 years and bought three new trucks from the old GM and that is where my legacy has ended. Enough of my babbling, to each their own and may you live your life thinking “hey what ever”.
Here is the article I'm referring to: www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ceo-ventilator-maker-speaks-out-trump-invokes-defense-production-act-n1170881?fbclid=IwAR11-ZXBhwFfx8ihUH5Z2290zDOxWHo_PdZoW779hTKOPlY3TGain3s2VGk
CAFE is based on gross vehicle weight. Standard cab and short bed trucks still have higher GVW than cars so CAFE isn't as big of issue as consumer demand. Outside of maybe fleet buyers, there isn't much demand. Consumers like using trucks like the cars they displaced. 4 doors are in demand. Short bed and standard cabs are less so. Short bed crew cabs sell. Short bed standard cabs don't.
We had 86 and 87 Chevy 1 tons with solid front axles.
I do see people having lots of issues with your sense making 😂 I’m fine with two people and one bags of small rocks.
😂 interesting on the solid front axles.
The C3500HD model trucks ( in the GMT400 body style) ran solid front axles, king pins and leaf springs through 2002. They primarily had 6.5's and 454's but the last 2 years ran the 8.1 and the 6.5. They only came 2wd although aftermarket companies made 4wd versions. They are more like what Ford calls a 4500 and 5500 and the same with Ram as they had 19.5" rims and whatnot.
Fuck solid front axle illl take my pushbutton IFS 4x4 front axle that rides way better. I get typically 300 000km out of a ifs rebuild. Fuck manual locking hubs fuck the shit ride and handling from solid front axle I'll keep my IFS!
Double cab with a 6’6” box is way more practical than a regular cab short box.
Agreed.
Not everyone wants the extra length, or a glorified suv.
@@PureCountryof91 hardly anyone buys them. It’s not worth truck companies making a truck that hardly sells when they could just make more crew cabs
CAFE and wheelbase are interlinked on mileage regulation standards. Got It.
But....the regular cab short box Silverado/Sierra has historically been about the same wheelbase as the regular Tahoe/Yukon, so what gives on this and the CAFE argument. Inquisitive minds want to know. Thanks.
I still don’t care about interior of a truck. Give me a radio with Bluetooth, 4 nice speakers with good bass, soft Chevy seats ac and heat n that’s it. Which is why I have an 03 Sierra extended cab. Holds 4 adults and 2 kids comfortably and hauls as much as I need.
Thanks for the talk. I would rather buy the truck and add the wax coating. It will last longer. As for regular cab, I see you can still buy most full size
trucks with a small v8, which is good, but Tundra is what I would like. That won't happen now. I do hope the new Dacota will have a regular cab sport truck. I think Dodge should bring back the 4.7 with variable cylinder management as an option. Thanks
Thanks for watching and commenting!
So where do I begin to buy one of these shortbeds regular cabs someone please explain I don’t care what it takes or how much what do I do
Import from Saudi Arabia. Find a dealer over there.
For Me, a SWB 4x4 is best for Off-Road. 2wd and 4 doors is fine for the street but a joke dragging it's guts in the dirt. Let the 4x4 offer the option for a useful wheelbase.
I’d rather have E coating with the boxed frames. Cars don’t rot because water hits metal, they rot when water sits on metal. Or from chemicals, or salt. That’s why lower doors and trunks and even frames. They rot from the inside, not from a scratch that dries. Ford has always had a thicker metal also, and that helps. There will always oddballs that rot out. The Zr2 Frame might have done what it was supposed to but it seemed to do it awful easily. Unless he was lying about how he was driving. The GM thing is a who do you believe. The biggest problem I have with GM isn’t the $8 billion they needed it was the $55 billion they took and kept. They also let or had to let Obamas crew run the company and with that they screwed so many people out of what was owed. The Money they took was only part of it, they screwed all the stock holders. My friend lost almost $10k when they changed the stock. The only people that didn’t get screwed was the unions. They are still living on that money. It’s a huge advantage for them and those BS commercials they ran saying they paid all their money back early was a flat out lie.
Sure rot is caused by the elements sitting on the metal. My point with the scrape is it is easier for rust to form with the metal is exposed.
And yeah, the ZR2 driver was certainly driving way faster than he should have been driving with that trailer.
Regular cab prices are threw the roof.
Dodge and Ford still have a standard cab short bed offerings. How do they get around C.A.F.E?
You can only get 6.5 or 8 from Ford and not the 5.5. The 6.5 with the regular cab is still a pretty long truck and works for CAFE.
The 27,000 views of this video proves that there is still a demand for regular cab short bed trucks assuming people are viewing it because of the cover image. CAFE didn't kill the smaller wheelbase pickup. CAFE's implementation gave the big three an advantage over manufacturer's that build smaller vehicles with better fuel economy. The most profitable platform for the big three has historically been the half ton pickup market and if fuel economy standards would have been the same for light trucks as it was (is) for passenger vehicles the big three may not have continued to exist. So, what we are seeing now is the morphing of light trucks into passenger vehicles replacing the family sedan. None of this has anything to do with what the consumer wants. It has more to do with the self preservation of the big three auto manufacturers. When fuel prices rocket back up to above $4/gallon, sales for the so called "in demand" crew cab tiny bed light truck models will shrink dramatically as companies that still offer fuel (liquid or solid) efficient small and mid-sized vehicles will prosper. The big three will need yet another bail out by the American taxpayers.
I see them alot in So Cal from Mexico
I seen many in Instagram and RUclips in Mexico they even had single cab Tacoma’s and raptor’s
@@chippi3878 no such thing as raptor single cabs and the Tacoma’s they stopped making them around 2013-14 so people buy those Tacoma’s single cabs and upgrade the front end and wheels to a 2018-19-20
@@fakundofederico5658 For raptors they cut a Supercab or they switch the beds and suspension and front end to make a raptor clone. About the Tacoma I not sure unless they cut a long bed or a extended cab. But also México has more options for truck trims
And here I was thinking a RCSB with a 6.2 and 10 speed would be pretty fun...
420 hp in a regular cab no bueno?
700hp in a corvette no problemo?
CAFE seems like more of a car guy
😂 CAFE is indeed a car guy!
I had a 2018 GMC Sierra 2500 HD and I traded for the 2020 Chevy Silverado 1500 trail boss one month ago. I was going to buy the Ram 1500 Laramie but believe it or not I did not like it because of the interior. I really love the Chevy interior more because of the functionality and the simplicity.
Nice truck! I'm a big fan of the Trail Boss!
Look forward to Tundra/Tacoma hybrid....maybe a ridgeline (not a body on frame truck)
We have single cabs in Canada
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I didn’t know that.
The frame issue has to do more with GM frames as in Colorado canyon bending TO EASY....
I pull a travel trailer that is 6000 lbs and a tongue wt of 700 lbs. I hit a dip in the road on the highway and it bottomed out very hard.
I now notice a difference in the gap between the bed and the cab.
They are badly designed frames. Bar none.....
What I don’t understand is why companies can’t get through there greedy heads that if you build a quality product customers will buy.
Time to wake up to reality.
Build your vehicle with the low binder and you will pay the price in the end...
The wax on GM frame is a scam I want
my frame painted I'll deal with the wax.
Picking up rust flakes on 7 yrs old truck.
The bail out money is not the issue. The issue is Ford has never gone bankrupt and not repaid their debts to the government. FCA and GMC have both kept government money and not repaid the government many times over the years.
That’s not true. FCA and GM paid back the loans.
money.cnn.com/2011/05/24/autos/chrysler_debt/index.htm
@@Pickuptrucktalk dig a little deeper. The US and Canadian governments both wrote off loans that remained unpaid by FCA. GM paid back it's loans from 2008 but split their stocks to steal the money from their share holders to do it. They have both also gone bankrupt multiple other times over the decades. Ford and Tesla are the only companies that haven't. Ever.
FABULOUS OFF ROAD DESIGNS I’ll have to do that. Thanks.
@@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 dig a little deeper and you'll also find EPA loans that Ford has never paid back.
I have been looking for a used regular cab short bed pickup for a while, can't find.
Increasing tie rod size to an adequate level would add an insignificant amount of weight. It's a valid concern and question that addresses a weak point to GM heavy duty suspension especially. Your answer about "Chevy has been using independent suspension for 50 years" is misleading at best. Chevy also used solid axles until I believe up into the 90's on its R/V legacy series. Your statement that tie rod breakage is a result of overloading your vehicle is way oversimplified and off target. I have seen tie rods break and bend on empty trucks on very mild off-road trails. Look the aftermarket exists to address these inadequacies. IFS can be made to be sufficiently strong, the military Humvee is an example. GM took the IFS route on it's HD trucks many years ago and that's their prerogative. But in my opinion and others who actually own these set ups Tie rods and CV axles are a joke at best when compared to the durability found in competitor's solid fronts
Good counterpoints. I’ve had owners argue either way on all of those points.
If you can buy a single cab short bed V-8 in other countries but not here that’s a bunch of bs yes the demand is low but yet should still be offered .. they’re losing out on market share doesn’t matter if it’s a small percentage you got a think generational.
I think they need to streamline a little better. Drop the 4 banger. Use the 5.3 and 6.2. 6 speed and 10. Or only 10? Seems like brands like toyota have better reliability due to less options? And I want to know if the 8sp in the Colorado has been fixed? Want one. But not after reading the horror stories about those transmissions.
A few of the follow-up questions deal with the 2.7L and the 10 speed as well as the 8. Once I get the responses, I'll do another video.
I just want a 6.2 for less than 50k is that to much to ask
For GM ya hahaha, my sons 6.4 ram was cheaper and has had less problems then his 5.3L TB hahaha has better tech and options...AND comes in RCSB, GM dropped the ball...
One of your best videos
Thanks.
Tim, I'm sorry that I missed the live stream of this show.
I wanted to have you ask Chevy about the 2020 Silverado 3.0 Duramax "diesel off-road package" from the fleet build guide. What are the differences with it and the Trail Boss which is not currently offered with the diesel option.
Huh. Never heard of that. I’m forwarding your question to GM.
@@Pickuptrucktalk ....
B4U Diesel Off-Road Package, includes (GT4) 3.73 axle ratio, (R3O) LT275/65R18C MT Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac blackwall tires and (VOZ) Tri-fold hard tonneau cover, LPO
1 - Requires 4WD model, (LM2) Duramax 3.0L Turbo-Diesel I6 engine and (Z71) Z71 Off-Road Package. Crew Cab models include (BVT) Chrome assist steps. Not available with (PCQ) LT Value Package, (NHT) Max Trailering Package, (VYU) Snow Plow Prep Package, (PDZ) Z71 Off-Road and Protection Package, (RD4) 20" aluminum wheels with Argent metallic pockets, (QAB) or (QAE) tires, (PDW) Assist Step and Tonneau Value Package, LPO, (PDE) Wheel to Wheel Assist Step and Tonneau Value Package, LPO or any other assist step or tonneau cover.
2 - Requires 4WD model, (LM2) Duramax 3.0L Turbo-Diesel I6 engine and (Z71) Z71 Off-Road Package. Crew Cab models include (BVT) Chrome assist steps. Not available with (PCR) RST Value Package, (STH) Rally Edition, (NHT) Max Trailering Package, (PDZ) Z71 Off-Road and Protection Package, (RD4) 20" aluminum wheels with Argent metallic pockets, (QAB) or (QAE) tires, (PDW) Assist Step and Tonneau Value Package, LPO, (PDE) Wheel to Wheel Assist Step and Tonneau Value Package, LPO or any other assist step or tonneau cover.
Re hybrids, Ford F150 does have the powerboost which is a full hybrid and has all the payload, towing, even better acceleration and with much better mileage (esp city) than a stock F150. So, kinda negates your argument hybrids don't really work in the truck segment. Id like to see Chevy do a real hybrid not a light hybrid in the full size truck segment. Maybe even a diesel hybrid...
IIRC, I shot this video before Ford announced the Powerboost F-150. I went on later to buy that F-150.
Ford still sells regular cab and short bed. I am currently thinking about trading my 13 for a new one with a 5.0.
Ford does? I’ve been shopping and I can’t find a reg cab with a 5.5’ box option.
I would really love to know when they plan to offer the 10 speed auto with the 6.6l gas HDs. Another thing I’d like to see them do is add heated rear seats to the cloth interiors. They have had heated front cloth seats for years.
I'm not sure what the hold up is on the 10 speed in the gas. Probably just a matter of time.
I hope. We have a SS Camaro with the 10 speed and while I’m sure the tuning is totally different it truly is an awesome transmission. There’s never a point it doesn’t have the engine in its power band. I’m not sure how much difference there will be going from the 8 speed to the 10 speed, but I think going from 6-10 will be a noticeable difference, especially in towing.
No keep the 6 speed it’s reliable, long lasting and capable and dramatically cheaper to fix if it breaks and less complicated and less likely to fail.
Do you think if GM kept the original model names like chevy S10 chevy S10 blazer or GMC S15 or GMC Jimmy
I bet those names are trademarked and GM is sitting on them.
If ford can offer and still sell them, then chevy can too. Not everybody wants a large crewcab truck. It seems like gm is offering less and less even though the car segment has gone away.
Ram still makes 1500 classic reg cab short box
Chevy Aveo,really? Yes,I remember. SONIC Took it's place. Not a fair comparison. Suvs are way more popular and many more are made so an suv nameplate is gonna be more popular.
What seems to be missing is the the new Blazer is a disgrace to the blazer heritage. Just as the olds QUAD 442 was to the 442 heritage or the redesigned FWD Mercury cougar of the mid 90's was to the Cougar name. Anyone remember those? (Easy to forget)
I have a question, did the 1999 Silverado come with a 5.7 v8? Because I just imported a Chevy Cheyenne from mexico recently and its a single cab that has the nbs body style with a 5.7l v8. Im just confused since I thought they only came with the 4.3, 4.8, and 5.3. Idk if its because its a Mexican pickup and they put different engines in it, its just weird.
you think i can import the 2020 cheyenne ?
@@guero1140 Yea I don’t see why not
Their interior hadn't changed in a few years even ford was doing bet5r
Do you think GM will put the 4.10's or 10 speed with the 6.6 gas any time soon?
4.10s no. They don’t see much gain according to the engineers over the lower gears based on their testing. That was a question I was very curious to have answered.
On 10 speed? That’s just a matter of time I think.
They should leave the 6 speed alone it works well, reliable, and long lasting, if it ain’t broke don’t try to fix it and leave it alone.
You can order a RCSB in 2023, I have mine ordered.
What's the bed length?
They'll sell in south Texas and california
if anyone knows please help me. I got a long bed, regular cab pick up. V8 engine. what can it tow? I heard 8,000 t0 13,000 but idk. someone please help!
Regular cab sales are also down to about 5% of fullsize truck sales.
The CAFE footpront rules is also why we will never see a V8 fullsize two-door Blazer-like SUV. Too short. Maybe there is an opportunity an an EV.
Man, you get it. Maybe you should have done the video! 😂
Agree. CAFE is same reason mid size trucks will never have a V8 again
PJB closest we are going to get is new Tahoe Z71 package. That’s going to be badass.
If you don't want the frame to rust, spray it with oil annually.
Can you get a v8 single cab short bed ?? 2024 ?
How short of a bed?
GM can't sell them because they can't compete with Ford.
Very good and informative video. Good job, I enjoyed it.
Thanks. Plenty more videos like this coming.
Ford never took bail out money! Ford got a loan for developing more efficient engines! Completely different!
That’s one way to see it. My point being Ford was for the bailouts and definitely benefited from the industry receiving them. The timing of their loans and wording is political maneuvering at its finest.
www.factcheck.org/2011/09/ford-motor-co-does-u-turn-on-bailouts/
Ford mortgaged the farm so to speak before the banks stopped lending because they were in deep do-do as compared to GM. GM was doing better (Better balance sheet) but that's relative, the delay in doing what Ford did probably caused them valuable time which they didn't have once the banks stopped lending and the economy took a nose dive. Bankruptcy was inevitable after that time. GM would have done the same thing if the tables were turned to save the supplier base as Ford did.
Around any auto plant there are a dozen other supplier factories making parts right by the auto plant.
Yup. That’s an integral part of the process and automakers design plants to accommodate them.