General Grabber ATx Towing Mileage Review URGENT UPDATE!
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Will the General Grabber ATx Tires last 50000 miles? URGENT UPDATE!
After doing a large amount of research and having personal experience with General Grabber ATx on our 2016 Toyota 4Runner I thought this would be a perfect fit for my work truck needs. Unfortunately these tires are not meeting my towing needs and the tread ware performance has certainly been lacking.
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How can you give a fair review if you don't install the proper size, don't rotate or have\check correct tire pressure
And then tow on top of all of that. It's recipe for early tire failure.
Not sure you can blame the tires for your downfall.....
Oversized and over inflated will lead to center pre mature wear for sure
I tow a lawn trailer every day and have the same tires in 35x12.5r20 on factory wheels and have 50k+ on mine and they still look good. I honestly believe the narrow wheels and wide tires is your issue.
A soft gripping offroad tire is not designed for heavy towing. It will wear out like a pencil eraser. You need a heavy duty towing type tire. 2 completely different animals. Light truck tires are like 4 to 6 ply. You need a 10 ply at least.
This is a Load Range E tire. But you are right, the soft tread compound used to achieve the high Snow rating lead to it’s quick wear.
With all you did wrong I stopped watching your video. IMHO you shouldn't have done a review.
Knowledge is power and if sharing my experience can save others from learning first hand then I did my job by contributing. I am sorry that you were dissatisfied with this video.
Your honesty is refreshing, but this really isn't a fair assessment of the tire itself. First, the rims on your truck are stupid skinny, especially for a heavy duty truck. Your results would have been completely different if you had run the stock size, rather than an oversized tire. These is a reason why most tire shops wouldn't mount those for you, they're too big! I ran a 285/75/16 on my F350, but the wheel was 8" wide, not 6.5". I wouldn't give up on generals. They're a great tire, but am improperly mounted tire can drastically reduce the life of any tire, no matter the conditions. What you do for a living only sped that process up! My F350 is used daily for towing, I run a 305/70/16 on a 9" wide rim. I rotate tires every 6-8K miles and they are wearing evenly and very well. Thanks for your honesty, but unfortunately, it's not a product failure it's a user fail. Using a tire for an unintended purpose, and then the tire fails, it's not the fault of the tire.
Thanks for your comment and I definitely agree. Many conditions that are unfavorable for any tire. I ended up replacing this set with Falken Wildpeak AT3W. Under the same conditions I’m at 8,000 miles at approximately 50% tread. If I ever run a set of Generals again it will definitely be stock size or on aftermarket wheels.
People don't realize the grabber is softer. That's what gives it the 3 peak mountain rating. I hate to see this for you. But max air pressure mixed with a soft tire plus towing don't mix.
You gave an outstanding review of your experience. The only problem that I saw in your experience. Was the rim to tire width.
With a better rim width to the tire. You should have a better experience with any tire. The Generals are good. I did run Cooper ST Maxx tires on my truck for a while. But that is a tougher, rougher riding tire. Amazing traction, but I mostly run long highway miles. But did experience amazing traction offroad in sand and rock.
Again, very nice really consumer video!👍
Thanks, I really try to be honest in my reviews.
I mean this respectfully, but the wear on the tire would show operator error. I don't doubt your authenticity, you are a straight-up guy. Keep the video coming.
Bravo pour cette vidéo j'apprécie vos idées 😁👍🙏👏
I'm also between a lot of the tires you listed. The Cooper Discoverer AT3s seem to get solid reviews by everyone, as well as the Toyo ATIIIs but they are new so its hard to tell. K02's are always an option. Check out the Continental Terrain Contact AT. They get good snow reviews and are also highway based so towing should be better. Also heard they ride well. There are so many options, I agree, I have no idea what to pick. I do not tow though so cant speak to that but I do think the continentals would do the best for towing for you.
From what I have found after multiple sets of tires and 100K on my 3500 dully is that most of the AT tires are crap for towing. I have had the KO2's, Duller AT, Geolander AT, and the crap tire that came on the truck new. I now am running the Nitto Tera grappler. Have just over 25K on them and they are holding up really good so far. I regularly pull a 10,000lb boat ( 3 times a week from April-November) and random trailers full of cows or loads of hay a couple of times a week. So far so good. On my other trucks though, smaller 3/4 tons, i have tried a few different kind. I have had really good luck with the Cooper Discovery AT2 and also the Pro Comp AT Sport. Now the Pro COmp are not E rated. They are D, 65psi max. But for the boat and a hay trailer they are fine.
Thanks for the feedback. Always looking for good info like this!
Try emailing manufacturers for a pressure vs load chart, these look over inflated and the oversize definitely isn't helping you. Lots of trailer/commercial vehicle manufacturers just quote the pressure for the max load. Also it's often worth going on the weighbridge to see whats what, especially how much weight is on your rear axle, running your normal setup. We use a car transporter and just shifting the car back 6 to 12 inches can make a big difference to the nose weight. Sometimes one factor is very wrong or a couple of minor things add up, either way even if another brand lasted twice as long 10,000 miles is still bad, so definitely worth making some changes/fixing what's wrong. Hope you have better results next time around.
At least you are honest about the pressure, rotations, size, etc - I am sure you would have had a better experience with 5,000 mile rotations, regular PSI checks, and of course being in alignment. These tires have AMAZING reviews - I will most likely get them in a LT275/70/18 for my truck.
Thanks for the video!!
I put General APT in that size on my wife's 2018 Ram 2500 Crewcab 6.7L. That Cummins engine really puts out the torque. The same rubber compound is used on both the APT and the ATX tires. My daughter and son-in-law have the same size on a 2018 Ram Megacab 6.7L. They pulled a 35' around the USA and Canada foe 14 months. They really love the General Tires.
So you got bigger tires and didn't take care of them properly and now you're complaining about it. Lesson learned
Not trying to complain. More or less sharing my experience. And I guess I didn’t learn because I replaced these with Falken Wildpeak AT3w in the exact same size and pressure. So far they are not having the same wear issues.
@@ThriftyGarage well that's a good thing hopefully you had better luck with your new tires
@@6ixthChild same size Falken Wildpeaks went 22k miles. With a different size and wheel combination we are tracking to do much better than that.
Honest. Thanks. My experience: go with the correct size! Less is more on a real truck. Put on a commercial tire like the duravis R500 or the v-steel rib. My dually diesel weighs 8,000 and goes through the snow well.
I agree. The size could potentially be the only reason for the excessive wear. I always like the look of bigger tires but in this situation it also functions as some added height for the front plow mounts. The right thing to do in order to fit larger tires would be to install aftermarket wheels. I hope your tire buying experience went well. Thanks for watching!
@@ThriftyGarage so many things in this truck are designed around the tire size. It will be safer and better performing with stock size.
In your presentation, you gave the solution. New, wider rims!
Good traction does come from larger voids. But that means less rubber. To get more rubber, use a wider 70 series not 75 series tire.
I prefer General and Continental tires. But a good tire for you is the Cooper ST Maxx. I found them to be tough and long wearing. I bought a set of 255/70-17E on stock 7" rims for my '16 Ram 1500. I was testing the tall skinny concept. I drive too fast and hard for that concept to work. But offroad in sand, rock, and gravel, they worked better than I expected. I had the tires siped at Les Schwab, and snow traction was very good.
I currently run the General APT on my truck in a 275/60-20. Those took me from Lancaster, CA to Denver, CO during a winter storm. Stayed in 2wd all the way. Only had to use 4wd on the return trip from at point Canon City, CO. And I had pulled of the road for pictures in the Monarch Pass area.on US-50. Needed 4wd to get over the icy berm created by the snowplow.
My son-in-law put the 275/70-18 size of the General ATP tire on their '18 Ram 3500 Megacab 4wd 6.7L Cummins. That they pulled a 35' 5th wheel travel trailer around the US and Canada. They now live in Rathdrum, ID. The tires are 3 years old with 35k miles. And still have good snow traction.
I heard the yokahoma geolander at is really good they aren't that aggressive but the tread is super deep and they have a compound that's meant to wear slowly
The siping on the G015s is only half depth. It turns into a highway tire at 50%.
Just because the tire says 80psi max doesn't mean you run that. Look on the inside of your door to determine your tire psi.
I run 40psi spring/summer/fall and 35psi in the winter.
Tow a 14' tandem (6klbs) and 7klb dump.
Door jamb says 80 psi for the rear tires.
@@ThriftyGarage That is also for a specific size tire. Just looking at the wear on your tire, it's clear they're over inflated. If you want the look, you may want to consider the right size wheel to match the tire size. If you want the performance, stick with the proper size tire for the wheel.
Great video. I myself am a landscaper who tows and pushes snow. I was interested in these tires until I saw this. I’m curious to know what I should be looking for instead of these?
I replaced these with Falken Wildpeak AT3W and they have been good so far. Check out the comment from Dave Camilleri below as well. He seemed to have some very good insight along with many other commenters.
Cupping is the tire skipping on and off the road, most commonly worn shocks or shocks that are not up to the work level you are doing.
#1 biggest mistake with any tire swap:
Learn to “chalk pattern” to get the proper air pressure for ANY tire you install. Factory does it for the factory tires and that sets the number in the door. Swap rubber and you have to redo it for the new pressure. Cost $1 and takes a few minutes. If you always tow, then do the test with the trailer on it. Do the trailer tires too.
Better traction and longer tire life.
I know this is a old video but i have had good luck with the Kenda Klever R/T tires i have run on my trucks I run all terrains they have held up good for me I got about 75-80k on them tow about 70% of the time they also have a A/T i just went with, I will be getting another set this summer in the next few months
Wow! That is absolutely incredible! Right now I’m getting about 30-40k. I’ve tried Wildpeak AT3W, BFG KO2 and Cooper AT3 XLT and I would endorse all of those for towing applications.
Run a 235/85R16 and that is the same diameter of a 265/75R16. On the plus size the weight of your truck on a smaller footprint will be better in the winter.
I couldn’t agree more 👍 people get way too hung up on wide tyres skinny tall tyres are the way forward just make sure you change tyre pressures for different situations
I’ve had good luck with cooper discoverer the set that’s on my truck now have been on there for 3 years but I tow 3 times a week with my truck
Every reason for the tyre wear and everything you don’t like about the tyre is down to you miss using the tyre it’s as simple as that, tyre wear tells you everything you need to know about what’s going on with your truck all the way down to suspension wear/damage and yours screams over inflation. Do you drop your tyre pressure back to just below stock when your take your load off your truck and pump them back up everytime you load them?
Max PSI is only 65PSI, printed on the side of the tire! I have 35x12.5xR18 with correct rims to accommodate. I tow my Toy Hauler (+10,000 lbs) with my 2000 Excursion. I have had no issues!
You must have a lower load rating. These are load Range E. Both the sticker on the truck door jamb as well as the tire sidewall say “max load pressure 80 psi.” The recommend front tire pressure is lower since it’s not directly carrying the load from the trailer.
I am glad to hear that these tires have worked well for you in your application.
Rears are waaayyyy over inflated. That's not a tire issue. You need to adjust your psi in the rear based on towing / not towing...
Looks like you need new shocks most places will probably say no because they aren’t leaking oil but that doesn’t mean that the gas hasn’t leaked out I have had this happen on at least two different trucks tire wear was extremely bad after replacing the shocks the tire wear dramatically improved beat of luck hope you get your tire wear problems solved
Wider rims have helped. Towing frequently doesn’t help my tread life. The extra weight reduces tire longevity.
Heavy towing and heavier trucks like welding rigs etc everybody I know uses the toyo m-55 and loves them although I had the toyo M-606 on my service truck a ram 3500 with 20 foot enclosed trailer and loved them and i think they are a better looking tire personally
In all my research those tires never came up! Looks very industrial. Spendy little suckers but I bet they would do the trick like your saying.
I put them on my Ram 3500. They are soft and do wear quickly. That being said, I’ve got 15,000 miles on the 1 1/2 years. I’m only down a 1/4. I like the tires and will buy again. Soft compound,great performance but won’t last like a Michelin.
Longevity is a big portion of tire performance for me. I’ve opted to run the Falken Wildpeaks and they have had similar performance characteristics but improved wear.
@@ThriftyGarage Yes but no snow rating makes them useless here for winter. CVSE enforces tire chains, snow flake emblem on tires or you can not use the road.
General Grabber also has an X radial. More for mud but I’m sure the Falkens will treat you better. Snow compounds are naturally softer.
So your upset that you bought the wrong tire for the job ? I mean it’s literally not designed to do what you do for a living
I’ve yet to find a tire that does the job. If you know the best tire I’m all ears! 👂
@@ThriftyGarage check LT tyre this Grabber LT is 111 (1090 kg) i need more for tow capacity buy tyre whit LT more
@@JHOLLEOT The LT 285/75R16 General Grabber ATx has a max load rating of 3415 lbs.
Awesome video, thanks for being honest and giving us a good review!
My neighbor had similar results with BFG KO towing with proper sizing.
I’ve heard that they fixed that with the newer ‘DT’ version which is intended for Load Range E tires. They don’t have the 3 Peak Mountain Snow Rating. But it makes since to me since a softer compound would deteriorate faster under heavy loads.
I hate to hear such bad results. I just put the exact same tire on my 04 Chevy 2500 HD. I to have the stock wheels and put 285/75/16 on my truck. I pull a trailer almost daily as well as a 30 ft travel trailer on occasion. I guess time will tell how how they will perform on my truck. Thanks for the videos!
I don’t think it’s fair to blame the tires after listening to him admit his lack of care, which is respectable.
@bstevens426 I hope your results are better. Regardless, would love to hear your experience after you put some good miles on them.
You sure did allot wrong way too wide of tire for rim width; and so is the factory tire size. Tread width should NOT EXCEED YOUR RIM WIDTH! IT WILL CAUSE ALL OF THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU DISCOVERED AND DISCRIBED!
A 6" RIM WIDTH WOULD BE A 235 TIREas another reader explained. I had to replace my factory 265/65/17 with 235's when the truck would lean over on turns and sway on unevenroads while hauling a 9 1/2' truck camper.
All kind of EXPERTS told me to put helper springs or air shocks on it when all it needed was the correct tire for rim width....
Looks like you were running way too much tire pressure.
Also if you want the larger tire size find some Hummer wheels they are 7.5 wide n get 265 75 16s
That's good to know!
From experience the Ko2 arent great for towing ( maybe the E rated ones are), I used to have them on my Silverado, and they were too soft at higher speeds and heavy rain. They were great for off roading and snow (ice they were ok but I had the 4x4 on most of the times I saw ice)
Maybe a higher rated Ko2 are better (bro in law has them and hasn't had any issues that I mentioned). I don't tow alot but I generally keep around 600lbs loaded in the bed (not including my 250lb self) so take this with a grain of salt.
I agree. Had a set of KO2 on my 3500 dully and they only lasted 20K.
First mistake with AT always rotate every oil change
For towing with an AT tire you need a BFG KO2 that fits your rim properly.
I’ve always wanted some BFGs but dang they are expensive! Do you really think they will last 2-3x as long as some of their competitors?
@@ThriftyGarage I can't tell you that they will but I have a 285/65R18 on a Toyota Land Cruiser that is more than 6000 lbs. They now have 24,000 miles on them with around 60% of there tread left. Most people look at them and think there new but that's not the case they just look new because the tread was so deep to start with.
It amazes me how many people have these giant trucks and then never carry or pull a load.
People drive sports cars and don't race professionally. People drive station wagons and don't use them just for groceries. People drive fords, and don't leave them on the side of the road when they're dead. People drive what they like. Vehicle capabilities are unimportant to 99.9% of the people who drive them. People drive what they like.
I bought the wrong size, never rotated them, never got aligned, and neglected air pressure. These tires suck!
Not exactly…
If you want to run tires that wide get wider rims... really though that, and the overpressure when not loaded or when lightly loaded combination is what most likely killed those things. Also getting a load range F instead of E tire sounds like it would be a good idea for your application because you are hauling a ton of weight very often from the sounds if it. Cupping is caused by suspension/steering component problems. Though it takes less to mess up some tires than others. For your own safety check your steering components for wear. Only 5000 miles is absolutely insane. WIDER RIMS are an option Custom offsets is a good online store for such things though I would price check around other places if you find some you like on there.
I’m on a new set of tires same size, different brand any everything is working well so far.
@@ThriftyGarage of course the Wildpeaks are going to be better because you've already learned from the General Grabber experience right? So you're likely monitoring pressures, rotating, got an alignment? I don't think you can actually give these tires a proper review without correcting all of your mistakes and giving them another go. You also put the E-rated on your 4runner right? Overkill for that vehicle unless you need that sidewall for serious offroading, which you don't mention in the video.
@@joshg8020 I'm running the Wildpeaks in the same condition as the ATx. So far I've gone over 5k miles and experienced much better wear (easily 50-75% tread life remaining). It seems that there was some confusion on this video. I'm not admitting that I seriously neglected these tires. Rather pointing out to viewers that I wasn't using these tires in perfect lab conditions. This was a real world test and real world experiences. The items mentioned are things everyone should be watching. I watched for all the issues mentioned with both tires. Conditions were nearly identical for both sets. So far the Falken Wildpeaks work better for my needs (which include oversized tires on narrow rims as mentioned for the added plow height). To be honest I'd give the General Grabbers another shot but obviously they can't run oversized. The only way I'd run the ATx again would be stock size or aftermarket rims. Lesson learned there. And yes, the 4Runner has E-rated tires. These were installed back when we used to go to Moab Off-Roading more frequently. It's been a while since our last trip and the next set will probably be C-rated.
@@ThriftyGarage so you've overinflated the Wildpeaks too? Why would you do that?
Damn dude I run 40psi on my 4runner.. i got 62k on my ko2s
When you say proper size, what do you mean by that?
Stock
I have been selling tires for over 30 years and I have run almost every tire made. I am finding the same thing as you found with the General Grabber ATX as far as wear goes. One of my favorite tires right now is the Dick Cepek Trail Country EXP. This tire is made by cooper and they are holding up exceptionally well on diesel trucks. I have sold many sets and this is my go to all terrain tire right now. I am running a 285/65R18 on my 2017 chevy 3500 duramax that is putting down around 500 rear wheel hp. I tow a 15,000 lb Grand Design Solitude 5th wheel and many times have a second trailer or Jeep in tow behind it. Right now I am at 28,000 miles and still have over 60% tread. They are wearing very evenly, but I check air pressure and keep my truck aligned. Another tire that holds up well to towing is the Cooper ST Maxx and also the Toyo all terrain. If you were closer I would hook you up with a great deal.
thanks man I do appreciate your input on those tire I'll give it a shot
stay away from the ko2 in 31x10.5x15 i had them on my ranger they didn't make a year just driving around i went with wildpeaks they seem to be a good tire
That’s not good to hear! I just put a set of KO2s on this truck. After the ATx I went to the Wildpeak in the same size. I ran about 22,000 miles. This time I changed the size and wheel. I put the KO2 on the LBZ Duramax. But I did just put a set of Wildpeak’s on the new work truck in the exact same size so we will have a good side by side comparison.
@@ThriftyGarageyeah, I don't really recommend ko2s specially in 31x 10.5x15 they didn't last real long like wild peaks did I had wild peaks for over two years on my ranger driving it every day and I now need new tires, so they seem to fair pretty well but let me know if you find a good tire for towing, I'm going to need a tow vehicle for hauling race cars around
50k miles and if you get a cheap tire that costs 50% less that means you can buy two brand new sets and have new tread twice for the same price as a good set that will half half the tread and less at the 25k mile Mark.
So that’s kind of preference.
That said the heavier the vehicle the better of tire you should buy. I can slap cheap mud tires on my Jeep and drive it for forever. The Jeep is super light.
I can buy those same tires and put them on my Duramax and pull my camper a few times and burn them up in 8 months
To much air that’s why the center wore so much
That is a 3/4 ton pick up..stay with the size come on it from the factory LT tire 8 or 10 ply…rotate tires and alignment.. Thanks
Thanks for the tip.
the youtube channel "workplaytv" used these same tires for towing and had the exact same problem. They wear out really fast.
he also didnt rotate them and towed alot of weight with them.
Part of the issue I’m finding is the soft tread compound of the Three Peak Mountain Snow rated tires.
@@ThriftyGarage Makes me interested in the weather conditions you drive in. 7 months below 7 Celsius and the rest above? Does it get really hot which impacts the softer rubber? That kind of thing. I barely use them in winter myself. Have Nokian for winter. In summer the grabber performs well for me. I drive mostly in gravel and 26 - 40 Celsius situations. Did 20k now and tires are still as new.
@@QnA22 What vehicle do you have them on? I still have a set on the 4Runner and they have been good tires. But I don’t know how much of the tread life I can contribute to them being Load Range E.
My factory rims on my 05 gmc 2500 is 16x8
Quadrasteer? Nice 'n wide!
Landscaper owner also. Goodyear duratrac have lasted me the longest. I got little over a year out of a pair
I didn't hear him mention load range either
Load Range E
So you make a video talking about all the things wrong you did yourself and still say they are bad tires? You explained exactly what you did wrong and that should have been the end of it. Buy the stock size tire and if you need more lift for your plow then buy the right torsion keys to do so. This is exactly what I did and I have a 900lb plow and my tires are perfect. Just use the 245/75/16 with the E load range and proper air pressure and you will be golden.
Those were by far the worst tires I have ever had for longevity. I ran a set of Falken Wildpeaks in the exact same conditions and they went over 4X the miles. I stand behind the fact that many of the TPMS rated tires are too soft for longevity especially for vehicles towing or carrying heavy loads. I have since upgraded wheels to resolve some of the issues shown in this video. This video is only one in a series of videos ultimately leading to the hunt for the Best HD Towing Tires.
Buy the Cooper At3 xlt! Been there done that! Trust me!
You caused the tires to fail....this is not an unbiased review.
Try Goodyear tires
Which have you tried and had success with?
Maybe the Wranglers with Kevlar!
I’ve always liked the looks of those.
@@ThriftyGarage they look great, plus they have great reviews, and they're really tough. Cheers mate!🙏😁
I've been through 2 sets of the Wranglers with Kevlar. Their wear sucks. Don't even get 30k miles out if them.
I do mostly road/highway driving. towing a 30' camper 1 to 2 times a month, and off road in sugar sand, compacted dirt and some mud maybe 20 times a year when hunting.
Looking at the grabbers, now looking at the wild peak.
Check out our review on the Wildpeaks. They have performed much better but I’m not sure they will reach the rated mileage but definitely surpasses the Grabbers under the same conditions.
5000 miles what the crap. Maybe you should have gotten an alignment
How would that have helped the rear tires?
Funny tire review.
I’m glad you can see my humor side!
Cupping...worn suspenion parts....
6" has been the standard Chevy full-size truck rim width since time immemorial.
Huh?
Tire wear is on you not the tire
I believe it’s too soft of a tread compound for heavy trucks and towing. I just finished a long term review of the exact same size and Falken Wildpeak AT3w in the same circumstances and it lasted 4X longer. I’d steer clear of the TPMSS tires for towing.
continental is what you are looking for
You should take down the old video.
They can last, mine lasted 70k miles
tell me more! What vehicle? truck? 1/2 ton? 1 ton? tire size? driving conditions? air pressure?
@@ThriftyGarage 2010 Tacoma, double cab short bed. 265 70 17 P rated. 99% on road driving, city and highway. 36 psi all around, never towed. And only rotated maybe 3 times. I wore them down to 2/32". They were great to me, now i have Kumho Road Venture AT52's. These definitely handle a lot better and are more of an All Terrain tire than a Hybrid tire
There is really no tire that fits all those jobs , you have to rotate and run proper psi and rim size . Thats a huge void to fill
This information saddens me 😢
@@ThriftyGarage i just thought about a great tire I loved and I learned about them from a friend who towed heavy equipment , toyo open country extreme, I think it checks all your boxes , I haven't seen much luck with those wildpeak, ill be looking for your video of them , I believe I saw thats what you went with ?
That is great news! Yes, I ended up going with the Wildpeak. So far they are working pretty food. Not a perfect checking all those boxes but better than the General Grabber. I’ll have to take a look at the Toyo next time I buy.
@@ThriftyGarage did you go with your same oversize tire ?
Same size and load range.
I think this guy works for falken tires
I did buy a set of Falken tires to replace these. So far they are working for me. But I'm not brand loyal. I've also done a review on a set of Cooper's.
@@ThriftyGarage which falken a did you get?
@@GReviewz he got the Wildpeak AT3Ws
YOu still have not learned how to buy tires??? Sounds like you need new RIMs and then new tires...
Just saying.
Some habits die hard I guess. I’m rocking the Falken Wildpeak AT3w tires now; same size and everything and they are holding up much better.
100% operator malfunction.
Can you explain why the Wildpeak A/T3W has lasted 3x longer and still had tread? Same conditions.
I also would not recommend these tires for baking a cake. It takes 12 boxes to fill the tire and if you have a D rated tire you will never squeeze them into an oven. Full disclosure, I have no experience in spelunking. I cannot recommend these tires.
Buy factory size n they will go the 50k
Do you have a set?
@@ThriftyGarage yes i do on my work truck, its a 2017 f150 factory wheels with factory size ko2's. I put hard miles on them, im on the second pair, i rotate them every oil change and i can get around 40k from them and thats 75% dirt roads and heavily worn two ruts n highway the rest
That sucks!
I have zero sympathy for you. This is your mistake not the tires
I’m not looking for sympathy. I’m simply sharing my experience with these tires. I am not the only person to experience poor wear performance from these tires. I have also driven 3x on a replacement set of tires under the same conditions and they still have tread remaining. The soft tread compound used on the Three Peak Mountain Snow tires has not held up well for towing performance on many brands. BFG also has issues and has now come out with a different tire specifically for towing applications. The only thing I would change on my next set are wider wheels. But this tire size on the stock wheel is a very common upgrade and has been for years.
@@ThriftyGarage I get it man, here’s the problem, it’s still not the tires fault. When you don’t install the proper size, never check the tire pressure which ended up being dangerously high, never get the tires rotated AND never get an alignment, problems are always going to happen like this no matter what tire you put in it. When you treat the tires how you did I’m surprised they even lasted as long as they did. That’s awful. I’ve put 60k miles on a set of these tires while towing multiple times a year and there’s still tread. People buy these tires for their towing strength under the PROPER conditions. Did nearly the same thing with bfgoodrich all terrains. (I drive a lot of miles lol) Never had a problem with proper care. You gotta do that stuff man or else this will keep happening. Any tire will wear faster with towing, but when you didn’t do those essential things I just said it’ll wear REALLY quickly and badly like you said in the video, not good. It’s not the tires fault man I’m sorry.
Falken tires are junk, every falken tire I've had on anything wore like s*** and had no traction in wet weather.
Definitely
Trail hogs
leave the reviews to the pros.... over inflated x2, no alignment, oversized... waste of my time
.iv owned them....dont buy them, they suck