Is Your Shoulder Pain a Rotator Cuff Tear? How to Tell & What to Do If It Is.
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- Опубликовано: 6 мар 2017
- "Famous" Physical Therapists Bob Schrupp and Brad Heineck provide you with self-tests to do to determine if your shoulder pain is a rotator cuff tear. They also provide some initial therapy suggestions if you do have a tear.
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Thank god , it's not a tear, I am so happy , thank you guys , I am so relaxed
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@Strat Abuser 😂😂😂😂
Luckily for you, mine is. Yay getting old is fun
Excellent information-not too technical, helps to prevent unnecessary worry and provides tools to help without having to dive into the all too confusing and overwhelming world of medical care. You two are awesome!
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!!! This is the video that saved me!! I was trying to pull a very heavy lawn tractor out of deep mud and I pulled my arm so hard I couldn't move it and the pain was on a scale of 10 making it impossible for me to sleep at night. I had no insurance and did not want to go see a doctor and have to go in an MRI which I was terrified of. Also during Covid, I did not want to go into a hospital if I didn't have to and it felt like I would probably need surgery. I suffered like this for 2 weeks. Then I started watching some of your videos. But this is the video that did it for me. I started pulling my shoulder blades together many times throughout the day. The same day I did those, the first day I did those, I was at the grocery store at night and found accidentally, I went to reach for something and I could! That was my moment I could not believe after two weeks of suffering. Doing that one exercise many times throughout the day made me better. And in a few days i was back at 100%! I have been meaning to write and thank you both. You saved me from possibly having to go through a lot of trauma I did not want to go through. And possibly saved me from surgery. If anyone had seen me before I did that simple exercise, I think they would have signed me up for surgery. I was shaking hands just like you did in this video with my upper arm at my side. You really made a difference in my life and I am very grateful to you both for your help. Thank you very much!
Thank you for sharing your experience. I have been suffering for a week with left shoulder after a slip on pool steps that stretched my arm backwards. No insurance also and Cooties everywhere still! Starting shoulder blade stretches now!
@@joannericci5981 Oh no. I hope they help. In my case they helped fairly quickly. You could also try a post asking them for help and see if you get a reply? I hope you are better soon! Shoulder pain is no fun!!
Thank you so much for the video!! I'm a FNP student and MSK injuries are my weakness and this video helped so much thank you :)
Thank you for this excellent and clear explanation.
I just love your videos, you two are great. I do follow your advice.
Thanks! Love learning everything I can to help ppl with their pain. LMT in Georgia.. Great video for learning!
Wow thank you both so much for this. Saved me a trip to the doctor! Relieved it's not a tear and what seems to be just a pulled muscle. Thanks Bob and Brad!
Yeah, I just got back from my doctor and he didn't even examine me or try any tests whatsoever. Useless. This was a lot better!
Loved listing to you guys! I'm learning about the rotator cuff in my yoga training, so this was very informative!
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Excellent video gentleman ...learned alot and you've helped my shoulder ! Thankyou
Thank you huge help to my paranoia that it's not more serious. Could not get appointment with my Gp today so this is reassuring. Hopefully heal quickly.
You guys are awesome! I’m a Yoga teacher with extensive continuing education in anatomy and special conditions and I use a lot of your techniques in class and on my own shoulder impingement. WIsh I had found you BEFORE I created my shoulder issue. Oh well ...”better late than never”. THANKS for all you do. And you’re funny too! Hey that rhymes :-))
Very well explained! Thank you!
Best intro ever
Thanks guys...I've injured both shoulders...one just a few weeks ago and one about a year ago. I know the 1st was Rotator and I believe the most recent was as well. Very informative video! Lots of info here to get healthy again...Thanks!
Excellent Demonstration teaching 👏👏
When I did this it totally cracked were it was hurting I’m already feeling relief thanks guys
Jip!. Got it. Test 2 & 4 hurts. Thank you for advice. Will start exercises and stop working it any more than necessary.
Good explained with friendly attitude❤👍
Thanks alot sir...kind of instructive with fun.
My salute to u both.
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thank you for the video. very helpful .
Thank you for the easy to understand and follow information! I will try the exercises and stretches you suggest in this and your other shoulder impingement videos and see what happens before i go pay for an MRI.
I think I have shoulder impingement but I am not sure it doesn’t hurt so so much but I t hurts for about 5 months and I thought that the problem is the exercises which I was doing but now after so long time I am not sure it sometimes hurts after I woke up idk help pls 🥺🙏🙏😔
Thx for this video. Just had an MRI to confirm a Rotator cuff in my left arm. Will try the recommended exercises till my orthopedist schedules my 1st appointment. Thx again guys #new subbie
Very thankful for your videos. Not thankful that I need them, though. Sure sign of old age! At least you guys bring a smile to my pain(s).
You guys are doing awesome job. Much appreciated. Muaha
One of the tests I was a little worried, but all the other no problem at all. Thanks for the upload gentleman, I am not nearly as stressed.
thanks so much, very helpful
Thank you. My shoulder has been bad for months. I have done nothing, but try to act like nothing is wrong, hoping it will get better. I have watch your videos before and every one of them has helped me. I'm positive this will ❤️
How do you feel now?
U both r doing wonderful job 👍
This is exactly what I wanted for a long time
balaji hustler I feel you man
This was so helpful. Painful want to cry 😢.
so sorry! I feel your pain. Hope you have sought treatment.
Thanks guys for your knowledge and precious advice. First and second test were done easily but for the third test, the pain is 7 out of 10.. It's for my right hand, I've managed to do the shoulder squeeze with some difficulties but I would like to know if there're other ways of treating it. I can feel the pain in my infraspinatus or teres or even the latissimus. Please need your help guys, thanks..
I'm so grateful for these videos. Much thanks!
The last test (moving back of hand away from behind my body) is the one that causes discomfort. It's 2-3/10 pain with a little discomfort. Any advice? What muscles are involved in that movement?
Thank you guys brilliant videos. keep up the good work. you have helped me hugely
So glad to hear that! You are welcome :)
Thanks. I can bench press and squat with a barbell bar over my head, no problem. Both shoulders are pretty flexible. But I always have this dull pain in my left shoulder when I raise my hands overhead just past my ears. Pain is probably 1 out of 10. I also hear crackling sounds in both shoulders when I move them in circles. I think I'll go see a doc and have them checked out before it gets worse. I remember having a similar nagging (dull) pain in my lower back, and a few weeks later, I was rolling on the floor with a bulging disc. WHOA!
It's a rotator cuff tear or something else because my situation is same.
I'm doing better on these exercises. Reached back in fridge while bending over, felt pinch. Thought I had small rotator tear. It's been a couple of months, now trying to stretch. I am AMAZED at relief of stiffness and pain. Thank you so much for your videos!
I had an ulnar nerve impingement, along with a minor rotator cuff tear. Doctors and PTs kept suggesting surgery! When the elbow's impingement was "manually" released the rotator tear pain nearly vanished! Pain was gone, I could move my arm, and my strength returned. Thanks to the PT who recognized the problem and "snapped" it back into place!!!!
Very helpful.
I just had the subscapularis tendon to bone repair. Also, the supra and infraspinatus tendons were irreparable, damage to them was too old. I never had any indication of those, no pain, or discomfort. I also had the long head bicep tendon removed because it was torn 3/4 of the the way, and again, irreparable.
The arms over my head is my paradox I can't stop waking up like that regardless of how I try to go to sleep
What is if at all is the pro or cons of using a tenz unit on the irritated tendon ?
This is a great video, and it really helped...
Thanks!
Very helpful my chiro mentioned this and did no tests and gave no info
I lift weights and felt some pain during dumbbell over head presses. Stopped immediately and still can't life anything with my left arm above my head. Also Lateral raises are very painful and I can't get to level with my shoulder. Not sure if I should rest or go to the doc to check for a tear.
Very useful.
I had my shoulder cuff repair last year can you show me some exercises to strengthen my shoulder with out harming it
Thanks.
your videos so great and entertaining. I am telling everyone I know about you both and your educational videos. Thank you so much
Thank you
Thank you guys! I don’t have a tear
Hey Bob & Brad! An JC from Chile and wanted to thank for your videos, great help to all of us! Just a quick question, is it recommended to apply “Australian current to a rotator cuff lesion? My own problem extends all the way down to my pinky and it tingles most times. Thanks again.
Did you do the video on how to position the shoulder for pain? I could not find it.
Nice tests....
Thank you!
Hi Bob and Brad, and thank you for this wonderful resource. The only exercise that hurt was putting my hand against my lower back and separating it slightly. What does that indicate? What should I do to work on it as far as stretches and exercises? Do I have a tear? Funny enough, when I tried the exercise the first time, it was painful. Then I tried it again a few minutes later and it was much less painful. Thanks again and God bless you both in the New Year!
I cant build muscle in my left arm it gose to my shoulder hurts when I lift anything do you think it could be
Bob and Brad, is it best to have an MRI for an accurate diagnosis or is a physical exam just as good or bette?
Putting a coat on [arms backwards] under painful.
How do you correct your posture with this if you have scoliosis... Will the method still improve posture with the scoliosis in play??
Ultra-sound showed I had a tear but wasn't too bad. Recently I had a fall and went down onto the same shoulder, now it's pretty sore with marked lack of movement above 45 degrees. My GP suggests an operation but after watching this I'm going to give these exercises a go for a month. Thanks for the great advice guys !
I did this several years ago and had no issues. But I used the weighted ball every other day as an ongoing strengthener. rotatoreliever.com/
6 pack of Leineinkugel on me. Informative and entertaining. Makes me want to be a PT.
Great video! Thank you so much. I took a hard fall, ( from a seizure) came too with my dog licking my face. I had a black eye, broke the back left molar and had to have it pulled, then pulled the tendon in my left thigh. The leash was in my right hand. I thought I was just super sore. But I was having problems dressing and raising my arm above 3 o'clock. I cant "wash the window or wipe the table". I went to my Ortho thinking it was a frozen shoulder. He sent me for an MRI, and I have a tear. I also have a frozen shoulder, and he said he would shave the bone because there is not enough room. I had that surgery done 15 yrs ago, and it is one tough surgery to recover from. I'm going to try your exercises to help loosen it up and prepare me We did not cover any of these in the 1 month of PT I've had so far. Do they still use the chair that raises your arm up and down for 10 hrs a day for the first 2 weeks?
I think I have something like this. But because whenever I lift my arm sometimes it feels like my arm snaps out of position then after a few seconds pops back in which extreme pain.
rickos1234 did you find out what this was?
Me toooooooo
ItzAndy76 yes I after a had another MRI with the blue dye in my shoulder, it’s been found I have a thing called Bankart Lesion, which is a tear in the shoulder muscle, I have about 3 - 4 of them so surgery is needed to repair them. It was after a heavy fall onto my shoulder during a football match
I got my shoulder dislocated playing football when I was younger .after that injury my shoulder would pop out of place all the time n at times be hard to pop it back in place.i had to get surgery.they did a quarter size cut on my shoulder n tied my ligaments.
@@thykingdomcomethywillbedon9186 how is your shoulder now ???? I am 12 weeks post op. And it’s still weak
I fell off the ladder 3 months went to A/E at my local Hospital and they missed my rotator cuff injury
They Xray my shoulder And told me that there was no bones broken
All time I am in excruciating pain
When back 4 time to the A/E
Each time tell take painkillers and do shoulder exercises
In the end I went for a bit of ostopath treatment and the ostopath told me that I have rotator cuff injury and adviced me to see my Doctor and then he referred me for Ultrasound scan
Results came back with complete tear
So now i am waiting to see a orthopaedic surgeon
Thanks 👍
You are welcome
This was so informative and entertaining. Thank you Bob and Brad! I recently started crossfit so i do want to injure myself so thank you for the preventative medicine education!!!
Glad you thought so! You're welcome :)
Aqua Eva lol, I don’t know if this was sarcastic or not, but anyway, any sport can be dangerous and especially CrossFit, so please proceed slowly and carefully overtime, listen to your body, make sure to warmup and learn to do everything with proper form and technique and stay healthy, fit and happy !
I have this shoulder pain for about a year now. It started when i slept in a prone position with my arm hanging at the side of the bed, I always felt pain since then when I raise my shoulder. Is it a tear?
Watching this video with an ice bad on my shoulder ☹ pendulum exercise actually hurt when I tried it days ago :/
How long after injury should you be able to perform all the tests
I have had 3 surgeries on my right shoulder. I had a Bicep tear and a torn Rotator cuff this was work related. My last surgery was April of 2018 and I cant lift my arm up over my head and my thearpy has stop. The job doctor said I have reached the maxiumum treatment. My surgeon doctor said that I can go back to work but permanent light duty. I drive for a living my job don't have permanent light duty. I am vocational program through the job. I am doing home therapy myself and I see some improvement in my shoulder.
So, where is the line between self-treatment and going to see the doc?
What would you say is the problem if my shoulder pain comes when I bring my arm across my chest(reaching across)?
Omgoodness I think this saved me
Love the doorway and shoulder squeezes
thank you. very helpfull.
I hurt my shoulder in a baseball game a couple days ago and the pain is very bad to the point I can’t sleep cause cause of the pain and can’t lift my arm without help
I found this humerus.. 😉
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Been a year since I threw out my arm a a minor league game at a fan pitching booth. Shoulder had always been a bit tender from high school. Now 50 it hurts like a mother at times. Sometime a tooth ache in the joint then weeks of no pain. Only the hand behind the back bothered me. It was brutal. Think it is nerve damage. The others were no problem. I got a nerve running to the minor peck (?) that my massage therapist found that is killing me at times. A year after the incident, I can lift a 50 pound square box and little to no discomfort. Screwed up opening a car door. Slipped from my hand and grabbed it a second time my nerve screamed! Hardly any effort but it almost brings me to tears. Gonna try these exercises. Thank you.
Thank you so much for sharing. Good stuff. I wish I found you guys 16 months ago, or even better before I got injured. I felt like Gumby had his foot under my clavicle. lol, just kidding. Thank you so much for the info. I find when I'm seated I like to rest my hand on my thigh and press down with my hand to really relax those muscles, I believe supraspinatus. Maybe I tore that tendon a bit. It seemed I tore a nerve root because my arm was paralyzed and atrophied heavily for a few months. It seems the muscles on my C5 branch (tricep and forearm) stayed healthy. I'm very much on the road to recovery. Thank goodness.
Starting physio on Monday due to two small tears on my left rotator cuff.
I don’t think I have a tear but just a impingement. Thanks for all the tips for how to sleep too.
Thanks guys. Does each of the tests correspond to one of the respective rotator cuff muscles? I would like to narrow down which muscle/tendon is my issue. The test that gets me is the hand behind back/internal rotation one.
physicaltherapyvideo Understood! iI just appreciate a nudge in the right direction. If I didnt live in a damn igloo I would go see you guys.
Thank you. Can it be fixed? If so how?
Interesting video. Hurt my shoulder 2 years ago with a motorcycle fall and haven't been able to lift my arm above my shoulder height. And getting tired of the constant pain and struggle. So going to try out the exercises before going for an operation. So far I can do pretty much everything without pain except for lifting my arm above my shoulder.
Was it a tear? I have the exact same issue. Waiting for ultrasound results.
@@stoola8890 Mine is a chip that causes my arm unable to lift. And the doctors say nothing they can do for some reason.
@@vengefulrat3053 that’s not good news :/ I hope mine is not what you have
I went to the Dr today because I have been having shoulder pain sense October of last year I was in a car accident in October I do weight lifting 4 days a week for almost 2 years I was sore in both shoulders for a few hours afterwards then it go away didn't start having pain until a week after my car accident in October I was holding my five months 3 days while laying flat on my back in my bed and had excursionating pain for about 10 minutes Dr today said she think it's a hairline fracture in my left what do you think it could be ?
I just can’t lift my arm all the way up with out feeling pain. But i passed all of the other two tests. What does that mean?
My pain is more in the front of my shoulder close to armpit For example when I reach down and under a table or inside the refrigerator and when I wash my hair is shower it is painful. What do you think it is ?
Hi,what do you think of the inspace balloon for a solution for a detached supraspinatus with 2.5cm retraction.
This happened in the gym 16 months ago.
I'm 54,very active with a job that involves alot of heavy lifting.
Tia.
you are right, I can't lift my arm all the way up
If the studies show that I have the supraspinatus tendon broken by 1cm of the rotator cuff, is it possible that It can be healed with therapies and exercises? or I should necessary have a surgery?.
.My bad arm does not give way on any of these test but is noticeably weaker than my other arm..could this be a tare ,could it be something else. And will the same exercises help. Any info would help. Thx.
I went to emergency room today for my shoulder feel on it this past weekend pain swollen hard to move painful to do so no breaks as far as they could see but he did sent my x rays and stuff over to sports medicine doctor near the hospital have to wait 5 10 days got a sling told ice heat. And got advil muscle and joint pain sadly not really helping pain lol but its only one bill u can take very so often maybe after a few only aloud 3 in24 hours
I have rotor cuff tear and the pain is over the top. been diagnosed with one. Pain tonight brings tears to my eyes. no Doctor is near me. I have screamed out tonight it is so painful.
Hi I did a key hole surgery for my left shoulder back in December 2018.
I have been doing the rehabilitation exercises. However my shoulder still hurts and my range of motion is still stuck.
Is there any solutions?
If the progress is normal?
is swiming helpfull when u have a tear in tendon
please thanks for your information doc
I passed the test - though the last test my arm felt kind of sore, not painful. Each test was not painful. I can list things I can do right now in the gym.
Pull workouts no issues
Arms no issues
legs no issues - I know its legs.
bench press I tried to do 135 pounds today and was able to do it, but my shoulder did not like it. When I benched with no weight on the bar there was no issues. Heavy lifting in terms of bench or any kind of pushing - no good right now.
did that one movment and now im in so much pain i have been have weakness in my arm every since i did behind the neck shoulder presses my arm has been killing me
Can it cause also pain in the back upper arm? Fell at work and the ER dr is sending me for an MRI for a possible torn rotator cuff.
hello guys! i can do all three but i feel a bit of pain sometimes. is that already considered a rot cuff injury?
I'm not sure if my rotator cuff is torn yet. The tests I could do on my own I got results of torn rotator cuff. The thing is I need to get through this baseball season, as I don't want to waste money and not play 90% of the games. What do you recommend?
I just had a major snap crackle sound in my right shoulder this evening while lifting up and out too much weight. It is tender considerably. I passed all these movements you two show to test for .Just really tender and I also have already had arthroscopic surgery in that shoulder, but not rotator cuff repair. Also they cut away that acrominal tip and cut away my collar bone so it wouldn't catch there anymore. That was 12 years ago. Thanks!
Had the same thing happen to me last night. How long did it take for you to heal?
@@catorb6607 I eventually snapped my supraspinatus tendon away from my humerus bone of my arm. Dr. who was a sports surgeon for a major University said it was the worst situation he had encountered and thought with me being over 50 I may not recover or heal back even with a good surgery. I did make a full recovery after 4 months of PT and a lot of autophagy level fasting.. 18 hours daily, several days a week. It helps clean up old damage in the body.
I cant do the last one