This was a great reminder and explanation. The book gave me the idea that it’s possible to check progress during meditation. That’s grown so much within me and this video reinforces that at a perfect time for me! Thank you!
A few days ago for the first time i reached the 5th state. I consider myself a pretty deep mediator and always hear the Aum vibration and can get the light w little effort. But was always puzzled by the “popping” i felt going on in my nose. A few days ago for the first time, i achieved the 5th state in practice. And immediately realized that sometimes when I’m lightly sleeping and the body is resting but light consciousness is still there i have the same “woooooshing” type of nasal breath. Look forwards to going deeper into that. I have to say that following some of your technique along w those of my guruji 2020 was an awesome year. I had a spiritual experiences in every practice. Sometimes just a buzzing or tingling or super tranquil feeling, just today i felt as if an earthquake just happened. Everything felt to almost start spinning off access. Unfortunately i can’t hold these experiences for long. I am an artist and have an active imagination. I just struggle to calm my mind enough to stay there for more than a split second To really feed on that much deeper plain of consciousness. Joyful Struggle continues 🖤🖤🖤 Wooooooosh ☺️
This explains finally . I always thought I wasn’t progressing since I didn’t see the spiritual eye . But I always felt breath states . There are days I just felt my breath flows so easily and a cool Sensation inside the nose as though the nostrils expanded . Also those days when I felt the breath states I would be happy just like that.
Namaste💎 I am so excited to have found you and your valuable information! As a devotee of the Babaji/Lahiri/SriYukteswar lineage it is truly wonderful to learn from/with you. Many thanks and blessings.
Yes plan to observe the 5 breath states if I can experience all😀. Thanks for breaking it down so well and giving us the necessary tools to reach our goal . Thanks Forrest . Jai Guru .
I just started Reading your book and went back to see if you had a video. FANTASTIC!! You definitely should right a new book that explains in detail everything you have tough for all of these years!
yes, me as well- i have been using breath work primarily for emotion/stress management - Two things i have noticed since watching Forrest's videos is that this breathing , and awareness practice also grows and evolves on it's own - - -it is like what he said a bout a bio-feedback that happens which is wonderful - For me - when i have done practices before ; at first they are 'oh, this is nice. ' but after a time i think - Am i noticing that anything is changing or opening up for me (realizations - better breathing habits all the time or the like) none of them have really done that - and so quickly as the this . I really like it, and feel like i am learning something with it all the time.
Thank you so much for your simple direct and to the point information and guidance to be aware of these points to apply. I have learnt more from you in a few minutes than all the books i have read and videos i have watched. Please tell us more in future clips about how to do correct meditation techniques to have control of mind chatter and be silent and be focused on the present moment in life. Thank you again.
I really love this testimony. Watch these: ruclips.net/video/d7gLaAiGR-o/видео.html ruclips.net/video/aRhKAXSBrow/видео.html ruclips.net/video/55RnKlES_IM/видео.html ruclips.net/video/vHNnGlxssH8/видео.html
Your information is really so good. I know I thanked you plenty of times but thank you. And a lot of it's even coming after the fact of dealing with things that you talk about, but I'll often still not really have a full explanation myself. And you definitely added a lot of value in information. I would love to hear your take though on why you think there's so many yogis that have practiced things for so long and been told that, you really think that some of them didn't know they could have just told them to drop their breath rate? And use methods like you're describing? It's just something that I really personally Wonder about. Because it's just hard for me to imagine a lot of the guys not knowing to just teach that, were they doing it because they think it's best that it naturally comes along for each individual, was it sometimes to actually waste the individuals life energy, was it sometimes just not the best teachings that could have been or lack of knowledge in general? Or was it just all of the above? Lol and I'm not trying to talk down upon it either, it's just something I personally been tossing around in my head for a while now.
Atma namaste sir heartfelt gratitude God bless for your amazing teachings and explanation. I always consider myself so lucky and a chosen one to know about your teachings. No words to convey my feelings God bless much love forever 🙏❤🙏❤
Finally getting this. Its helpful Forrest explains this in different ways in different videos. I like the fact that I can now track my progress by simply noticing what transpires in the body in sequence. Maps are useful in life!
Thank you, your videos are so Interesting and I learn something new each time. I always noticed that I could breathe easier after meditating but never knew why. Lol.
To get to the last state I have to be balanced, whenever I have a minor infection or my nose is a little stuffed I just can’t get there. Wonderful video Forrest🙏
Thank you Christian! That's usually the case. You might be able to feel the fifth state even if the nose is stuffed up but sometimes it isn't possible.
This is the oldest and most basic technic of breathing in yogic system, which is used to balance the panchbhootas. Good you discovered by self. There are wide variety of uses to it, i know you will discover soon. Thanks for sharing your discovery.
Conversation with you so I can actually learn something. The big problem I'm having in this is I don't have time, and I spent a lot of time already learning things that didn't really interest me in and there's some things in yoga that deeply interest me that I want to know about. But I see that they're a little bit more of The Fringe part of yoga in the western world. So it's been hard for me to get answers and I've been smack dab in the middle of the peak of my spiritual Awakening so far in my life, poor as possible, away from home, with little support. And I say little support but let it be known that I have support and family, it's just that I don't expect them to get this without being gone through it. I left a few messages on your things I hope you actually talk to me, I think you'll help me a lot
If you're having a hard time telling if it's actually happening or where it's touching in your nose. My suggestion would be to purposely try to get it to touch in those areas of your nose so that you know what to feel for during your meditation when you're not trying to purposely do it.
Great Video and thank you for sharing your insight. the following thought occurred to me: what if in the old texts "observing the breath" was misunderstood and instead "observing the nose" would be the much more appropriate translation for "breath meditation / anapanasati"? because the breath is not a direct physical phenomenon, but more a sensation it triggers in the nose. so, in the future, i will practice "nose meditation"
I can recall that last feeling of free flow of the breath at least one time in my life, interestingly in an everyday situation. I can also recall that when I was little, before falling asleep I would have a sensation of falling. It was a cool sensation and I would imagine falling into bottom rooms. I have no idea why was that sensation.
I've got a trick to help with this that I use. I don't know what it's called, but you rub your nails of both thumbs together or apply oscillating pressure for about 30 seconds to 1 minute and it opens up all the capillaries in your nose.
Early in my meditation I used to get so frustrated because one side or the other would be closed off in my nose. Now it's always open assuming I don't have a cold or something (which is rare). I can actually switch between feeling those different points at will right now having just exited my sadhana a few moments ago.
Interesting video, I'll trace my breath some more 👍 One question Mr. Forrest, how many stars are there for our consciousness to pierce? Recently, I've seen the fully shaped white star in meditation. I was happy to finally behold it but then I stumbled on an article that says they're more than one star for our consciousness to pierce. It said that piercing the first star is the beginning and that there is two more. Can you help clarify this please 🙏🙏🙏
That's a great question. I know that article, or at least it's origin. I've seen all shapes and sizes of stars in meditation. It was never the star that was important, but the deep blue cave itself. And the idea of piercing is only half the idea. The other, and better, idea is expansion. Once you expand in the cave, you leave behind the entire perception of the eye. It's gone, and you are in Absorption.
Thanks for the wonderful video one questions that comes to my mind is that for a beginner what is the ideal time to sit for meditation. The hrv video is for 10 mins so shall we start with 10mins or we need to devote atleast some particular amount of time ro get the full effects of meditation. Please help.
Oh yes! This isn't the end. This progression that I'm building will continue to go deeper. And as you use these States they are only a check, and then you forget them.
...how about if you've had your nose broken and have scar tissue that obstructs the air flow in a particular nostril...will you still be able to notice the difference?
I've tried Meditation for years NOTHING just darkness. Once able to see blackness flowing and then color. Maybe a little here and there. Forrest, I do not see what you are saying and the tools are what? I'm lost. I was doing breath work (Fire Breath) to return again asap. Can you be more pacific, please? Thank you
I would see it like this video: ruclips.net/video/A_4Ncs0Iz1w/видео.html first we are going up into the 4 Proofs and these 5 Breath States, then down into the Freeze Response, and the disappearance of the body from our attention.
@@ForrestKnutson Have you been able to link each nasal sensation to a specific proof, such as...would you consider the peak of the piramid in your diagram to match up with the 5th nasal sensation?
The third chakra and the dantian are the same thing. Some people will move around the locations, but this is only variation of description. I have a video called how to find your chakras mentally, and that's a great guide on where they actually are.
My question is that aren't all these biofeedback tools a distraction? Isn't it true that what really matters when it comes to checking your progress in meditation is simply how you feel?
Of the biofeedback as guide rails to the good feelings. You're not meant to become obsessed with the technique or with the biofeedback, but rather just use it as a guide. When it's used rightly it is extremely helpful as a guide.
i hate breath technique (as well as sitting postures), because every time i meditate on my breath, i feel like i identify myself more and more with my body, and whenever i do that, my stomach bloat, i start have constipation, and my digestive system starts functioning very poorly, my happiness always depends on me getting rid of these issues, and after a lot of struggle every day finally i feel a little peace after most of bloating goes away i am very desperate at this time i don't want to struggle with this everyday, is there anything that can get rid of bloating and constipation and digestive system issues. and it's not because eating because it's an issue that appears every day after i wake up, my stomach feels healthy and well , next minute it's bloating , and the struggle begins
There's a technique that I teach on Patreon that will help you with this. I'd also suggest digestive enzymes with each meal, and try being gluten free for 3 months and see if that makes a difference.
@@ForrestKnutson Nirwilap samadhi is the only measure i know of also experiencially if all is one (i dont know this but someday i hope to do this).. sory for my limited knowledge ....
@@ForrestKnutson u said it correctly there is no end..how many kriyas do u practice daily I mean the actual kriya pranayama..and how do u maintain work and spiritual and personal life balance.. please do tell🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@ForrestKnutson asampranyat and samprangnyat samadhi ..I think are synonymous with savikalp and nirvikalpa..as per what I had read...but again my reading is good but I don't have experience of this ..tha ks for sharing this Forrest..it was very nice 🙏🏼🙏🏼
This was a great reminder and explanation. The book gave me the idea that it’s possible to check progress during meditation. That’s grown so much within me and this video reinforces that at a perfect time for me! Thank you!
Perfect Taylor!
A few days ago for the first time i reached the 5th state. I consider myself a pretty deep mediator and always hear the Aum vibration and can get the light w little effort. But was always puzzled by the “popping” i felt going on in my nose.
A few days ago for the first time, i achieved the 5th state in practice. And immediately realized that sometimes when I’m lightly sleeping and the body is resting but light consciousness is still there i have the same “woooooshing” type of nasal breath.
Look forwards to going deeper into that. I have to say that following some of your technique along w those of my guruji 2020 was an awesome year. I had a spiritual experiences in every practice. Sometimes just a buzzing or tingling or super tranquil feeling, just today i felt as if an earthquake just happened. Everything felt to almost start spinning off access.
Unfortunately i can’t hold these experiences for long. I am an artist and have an active imagination. I just struggle to calm my mind enough to stay there for more than a split second To really feed on that much deeper plain of consciousness.
Joyful Struggle continues 🖤🖤🖤
Wooooooosh ☺️
That's so fantastic! To more meditative adventures in 2021!
@@ForrestKnutson yes! We're so blessed to have the master's guidance and the greatest science of all Kriyayoga science. Happy New Year Forrest ji!
If I found something very useful, and those who should understand didn’t get it, I would leave that place too. Thanks for being you, Forrest.🔥🔥
🙏🏾 your clarity and passion sets a warm glow in my heart.
Awe, thank you! 🔥🙏🙏
A lot of love from India forrest, thanku u so much for your teachings. I cannot explain how happy I am to find you. ❤🙏🏽
Fantastic Kiran!
This explains finally . I always thought I wasn’t progressing since I didn’t see the spiritual eye . But I always felt breath states . There are days I just felt my breath flows so easily and a cool
Sensation inside the nose as though the nostrils expanded . Also those days when I felt the breath states I would be happy just like that.
Brilliant observations Sir! Ty
Namaste💎 I am so excited to have found you and your valuable information! As a devotee of the Babaji/Lahiri/SriYukteswar lineage it is truly wonderful to learn from/with you. Many thanks and blessings.
Helanie, I'm so glad you are here!
And so we build, fabulous. Hope I get there before I pass. Thanks FK. Joy
Wonderful Joy! I'm sure you will! 🙏
Thanks as always Forest. Gotta keep on track. Great to see your face! 🙏🤘✌
Thank you Robo!
Thanku, May Mother Saraswati Bless you with PROFOUND wisdom, for sharing your knowledge with all.🙏
Yes plan to observe the 5 breath states if I can experience all😀. Thanks for breaking it down so well and giving us the necessary tools to reach our goal . Thanks Forrest . Jai Guru .
Thank you Bonny!
Great summary, Forrest! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you Mauricio!
I just started Reading your book and went back to see if you had a video. FANTASTIC!! You definitely should right a new book that explains in detail everything you have tough for all of these years!
Thank you Victor! 🤩🤗🙏🌹
I’ve noticed some of these shifts happen when I do energy work on my emotions. Thanks for explaining, makes sense 😊
Fantastic, Lisa!
yes, me as well- i have been using breath work primarily for emotion/stress management - Two things i have noticed since watching Forrest's videos is that this breathing , and awareness practice also grows and evolves on it's own - - -it is like what he said a bout a bio-feedback that happens which is wonderful - For me - when i have done practices before ; at first they are 'oh, this is nice. ' but after a time i think - Am i noticing that anything is changing or opening up for me (realizations - better breathing habits all the time or the like) none of them have really done that - and so quickly as the this . I really like it, and feel like i am learning something with it all the time.
Thank you so much for your simple direct and to the point information and guidance to be aware of these points to apply. I have learnt more from you in a few minutes than all the books i have read and videos i have watched. Please tell us more in future clips about how to do correct meditation techniques to have control of mind chatter and be silent and be focused on the present moment in life. Thank you again.
I really love this testimony.
Watch these:
ruclips.net/video/d7gLaAiGR-o/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/aRhKAXSBrow/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/55RnKlES_IM/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/vHNnGlxssH8/видео.html
Your information is really so good. I know I thanked you plenty of times but thank you. And a lot of it's even coming after the fact of dealing with things that you talk about, but I'll often still not really have a full explanation myself. And you definitely added a lot of value in information. I would love to hear your take though on why you think there's so many yogis that have practiced things for so long and been told that, you really think that some of them didn't know they could have just told them to drop their breath rate? And use methods like you're describing? It's just something that I really personally Wonder about. Because it's just hard for me to imagine a lot of the guys not knowing to just teach that, were they doing it because they think it's best that it naturally comes along for each individual, was it sometimes to actually waste the individuals life energy, was it sometimes just not the best teachings that could have been or lack of knowledge in general? Or was it just all of the above? Lol and I'm not trying to talk down upon it either, it's just something I personally been tossing around in my head for a while now.
Atma namaste sir heartfelt gratitude God bless for your amazing teachings and explanation. I always consider myself so lucky and a chosen one to know about your teachings. No words to convey my feelings God bless much love forever 🙏❤🙏❤
Vimala you are a treasure! God bless you and your dear family!
@@ForrestKnutson Thank you soooo much sir for your kind reply 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤❤
Good training!
Hi Forrest, I love your videos and meditative mellows programs, as they explain my experiences in Kriya yoga. Thank you 🙏
Hi Rouven! Wonderful! I got your email and I'm just sent you a response.
Indeed, Totally Awesome.
Excellent! Thank you so much Ashwin! I know you complete these regularly!
Finally getting this. Its helpful Forrest explains this in different ways in different videos. I like the fact that I can now track my progress by simply noticing what transpires in the body in sequence. Maps are useful in life!
Wonderful, Iris!!!
Thankyou so much.i experienced the difference in taste and this is helpful.thank you.
Thank you, your videos are so Interesting and I learn something new each time. I always noticed that I could breathe easier after meditating but never knew why. Lol.
Fantastic Dee!
As always . Excellent
Thank you Derrick!
To get to the last state I have to be balanced, whenever I have a minor infection or my nose is a little stuffed I just can’t get there.
Wonderful video Forrest🙏
Thank you Christian! That's usually the case. You might be able to feel the fifth state even if the nose is stuffed up but sometimes it isn't possible.
This is a really wonderful guide! Thanks!
Excellent!
This is the oldest and most basic technic of breathing in yogic system, which is used to balance the panchbhootas. Good you discovered by self. There are wide variety of uses to it, i know you will discover soon. Thanks for sharing your discovery.
I notice it slightly now and then, but usually the Tranquil Breath takes over very quickly.
Conversation with you so I can actually learn something. The big problem I'm having in this is I don't have time, and I spent a lot of time already learning things that didn't really interest me in and there's some things in yoga that deeply interest me that I want to know about. But I see that they're a little bit more of The Fringe part of yoga in the western world. So it's been hard for me to get answers and I've been smack dab in the middle of the peak of my spiritual Awakening so far in my life, poor as possible, away from home, with little support. And I say little support but let it be known that I have support and family, it's just that I don't expect them to get this without being gone through it. I left a few messages on your things I hope you actually talk to me, I think you'll help me a lot
If you're having a hard time telling if it's actually happening or where it's touching in your nose. My suggestion would be to purposely try to get it to touch in those areas of your nose so that you know what to feel for during your meditation when you're not trying to purposely do it.
I just found your Channel. I feel blessed... Maybe Jogananda helped me. First I'll check all old videos then Will hear again. 🙏
Awesome, Igor! Glad to have you!
Great Video and thank you for sharing your insight. the following thought occurred to me: what if in the old texts "observing the breath" was misunderstood and instead "observing the nose" would be the much more appropriate translation for "breath meditation / anapanasati"? because the breath is not a direct physical phenomenon, but more a sensation it triggers in the nose. so, in the future, i will practice "nose meditation"
I love it! Nose meditation! Lol! The Higher Self once sent me a picture of a Toucan with 5 segmented colors on it's nose!
I can recall that last feeling of free flow of the breath at least one time in my life, interestingly in an everyday situation.
I can also recall that when I was little, before falling asleep I would have a sensation of falling. It was a cool sensation and I would imagine falling into bottom rooms. I have no idea why was that sensation.
Wow, that's fantastic! That falling is a withdraw from the left brain.
Wow, thank you
I've got a trick to help with this that I use. I don't know what it's called, but you rub your nails of both thumbs together or apply oscillating pressure for about 30 seconds to 1 minute and it opens up all the capillaries in your nose.
Thanks!
The best❤
Early in my meditation I used to get so frustrated because one side or the other would be closed off in my nose. Now it's always open assuming I don't have a cold or something (which is rare). I can actually switch between feeling those different points at will right now having just exited my sadhana a few moments ago.
That's really wonderful well done!
thank you
Thank you Durga!
Interesting video, I'll trace my breath some more 👍 One question Mr. Forrest, how many stars are there for our consciousness to pierce? Recently, I've seen the fully shaped white star in meditation. I was happy to finally behold it but then I stumbled on an article that says they're more than one star for our consciousness to pierce. It said that piercing the first star is the beginning and that there is two more. Can you help clarify this please 🙏🙏🙏
That's a great question. I know that article, or at least it's origin. I've seen all shapes and sizes of stars in meditation. It was never the star that was important, but the deep blue cave itself. And the idea of piercing is only half the idea. The other, and better, idea is expansion. Once you expand in the cave, you leave behind the entire perception of the eye. It's gone, and you are in Absorption.
@@ForrestKnutson thank you 🙏🙏
Thanks for the wonderful video one questions that comes to my mind is that for a beginner what is the ideal time to sit for meditation.
The hrv video is for 10 mins so shall we start with 10mins or we need to devote atleast some particular amount of time ro get the full effects of meditation. Please help.
20 minutes is ideal. But it has to be comfortable and enjoyable. The HRV Resonance makes that pretty easy.
Good Morning Forrest, wouldn’t you say thats just in the beginning? I mean so you forget about that to get the King and checkmate!
Oh yes! This isn't the end. This progression that I'm building will continue to go deeper. And as you use these States they are only a check, and then you forget them.
Are u a member of the SRF - Self Realization Fellowship by Paramhansa Yogananda ??
Great work Btw.....❤❤
Thank you! I was a monk for 5 years with them, and left some years ago.
...how about if you've had your nose broken and have scar tissue that obstructs the air flow in a particular nostril...will you still be able to notice the difference?
Yes, I believe so. My septum isn't perfect. If the air is getting through, the chance is that you will be able to feel it.
I've tried Meditation for years NOTHING just darkness. Once able to see blackness flowing and then color. Maybe a little here and there. Forrest, I do not see what you are saying and the tools are what? I'm lost. I was doing breath work (Fire Breath) to return again asap. Can you be more pacific, please? Thank you
Don't start with this one. Start with the Resonant Breathing App and the main video on my RUclips channel.
Sir, are they the states of Prathyahara?(Internalization)
I would see it like this video: ruclips.net/video/A_4Ncs0Iz1w/видео.html first we are going up into the 4 Proofs and these 5 Breath States, then down into the Freeze Response, and the disappearance of the body from our attention.
Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
@@ForrestKnutson Have you been able to link each nasal sensation to a specific proof, such as...would you consider the peak of the piramid in your diagram to match up with the 5th nasal sensation?
Forrest whats the difference between the third or second chakra and the first dantian?
The third chakra and the dantian are the same thing. Some people will move around the locations, but this is only variation of description. I have a video called how to find your chakras mentally, and that's a great guide on where they actually are.
@@ForrestKnutson thank you forrest Means a lot!
My question is that aren't all these biofeedback tools a distraction? Isn't it true that what really matters when it comes to checking your progress in meditation is simply how you feel?
Of the biofeedback as guide rails to the good feelings. You're not meant to become obsessed with the technique or with the biofeedback, but rather just use it as a guide. When it's used rightly it is extremely helpful as a guide.
i hate breath technique (as well as sitting postures), because every time i meditate on my breath, i feel like i identify myself more and more with my body, and whenever i do that, my stomach bloat, i start have constipation, and my digestive system starts functioning very poorly, my happiness always depends on me getting rid of these issues, and after a lot of struggle every day finally i feel a little peace after most of bloating goes away
i am very desperate at this time i don't want to struggle with this everyday, is there anything that can get rid of bloating and constipation and digestive system issues.
and it's not because eating because it's an issue that appears every day after i wake up, my stomach feels healthy and well , next minute it's bloating , and the struggle begins
There's a technique that I teach on Patreon that will help you with this. I'd also suggest digestive enzymes with each meal, and try being gluten free for 3 months and see if that makes a difference.
❤️🙏🏻
I get great results by using a Nettie Pot!
You could probably sniff a little bit of eucalyptus essential oil or something along those lines.
Ahah - this is why in India they use the neti pot before - makes more sense now v. just ritual!
Exactly!
What is your HRV
It's the first playlist on my channel. HRV Resonant Breathing.
Forrest don't tell me you are not self realised already...coz I will be really disappointed.. please..just one yes or no🙏🏼
How would you define self realization? Then maybe I can answer.
@@ForrestKnutson Nirwilap samadhi is the only measure i know of also experiencially if all is one (i dont know this but someday i hope to do this).. sory for my limited knowledge ....
@@ameyapathak2008 I go into samprajnata and asamprajnata samadhi, but these are not the end, so it depends on what you are calling the end. ;)
@@ForrestKnutson u said it correctly there is no end..how many kriyas do u practice daily I mean the actual kriya pranayama..and how do u maintain work and spiritual and personal life balance.. please do tell🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@ForrestKnutson asampranyat and samprangnyat samadhi ..I think are synonymous with savikalp and nirvikalpa..as per what I had read...but again my reading is good but I don't have experience of this ..tha ks for sharing this Forrest..it was very nice 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Noice video...
Thank you!
😤