HOW I GOT RID OF (Obsessive Anxious Thinking & Painful Rumination)
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My Story
My name is Noah and on May 18 2011, I had a rare reaction to a medication called VIVITROL and consequently, spiraled into a suicidal depression with depersonalization and anxiety. I lost 25 lbs in 4 weeks and was in full panic or near panic for 8 weeks straight mixed with the darkest most painful depression I cold have ever imagined. I immediately could not work and had to move in with my parents who, along with many siblings and friends, had to watch me 24/7 as I was a danger to myself. Eventually I was hospitalized in the Psych Ward for a week. Getting through each day seemed truly unbearable and I knew I would surely die. I have been put on many many different doctor prescribed SSRI's SNRI's Tricyclics, mood stabilizers, anti-psychotics, holistic meds, acupuncture and even a form of shock therapy called RTMS. I barely saw any improvement in my condition for a full year. It was decided I had treatment resistant depression and I spent nearly every moment in tears. Weeks after starting my newest round of medications (Seroquel & Nortryptaline) as a last ditch effort, I had my blood drawn for possible hormone imbalances and my Testosterone levels came back 200 ng/Dl and 150 ng/Dl. The average 25 year old male has 750 ng/Dl. With this discovery I had an explanation as to why I was not getting better and why I might be so so sick. The symptoms of Low T are very similar to those of major depression. I started legally prescribed testosterone replacement therapy soon after and have been checking in with the world and documenting my experience with treatment as well as giving my insight and perspective on various topics of mental health. I am blessed to say that I have slowly, over the last 6 years, been improving and becoming more stable which I never thought to be possible. My low T manifested itself in the form of Major depression, anxiety, and depersonalization/ derealization for over a year. Treating my low testosterone has been 1 HUGE part of the puzzle but I have had to continue to work hard to hold on to my mental stability with many set backs. Gaining some mental stability back is nothing short of a miracle as I was near death for what felt like forever. I do not consider myself to be totally healed yet but I am closer now then ever before and aim to use what I have been through to help or at least offer support to others in need I was able to successfully come off my Seroquel and Pamelor.
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Do you with with people who have survived severe trauma?
Today I had a thought pop up in my head ..that I'm a demon it really scared me please help
😢 I'm panicking 😢
gotta love ppl that want to "help" others' when there's money/profit in it for them
I have similar experiences. I said to my partner I would like to know what its like to drive into a bus stop full of people and she said I was a lunatic. Id never do it but it was a thought or I'd be talking to an old person and I would imagine punching them in the face.
Now I'll just laugh it off ❤
You need to listen to Peter Crone’s the mind architect…
Coz all that u say here has an answer. Not what your saying tho.. in my opinion..
Good luck tho aye..
appreciate the time shared. But there’s a better way still..
Who is the one speaking and how do you know .. are you the mind are you the thoughts that the mind makes up and who sees this happening or can confirm this??
Another way is out there ..
It feels like a demon is controlling your mind and you can’t stop thinking
I know how you feel
@Nick stay strong, I know what it's like
They are
Exactly I feel that way
I seen another video try running cold water over your head. you are in control it's a repetition you got to stay positive
1. Don't argue with it
2. Don't fight it
3. Don't try to disprove it
4. Acknowledge the thought
5. Allow yourself to feel the anxiety
6. Let it be
7. Quietly carry on with your day as best you can!
thank you
Yoo this and a few deep breaths
Sounds so easy..
@@RR-zk3bl practice it every it comes around
I fought it and it made me think it was real 😭
"Your brain tricks you into doubting who you are" is a powerful takeaway for me personally. Thanks man.
figa ro true
Not my brain. Speak for yourself.
This is true,we're more than this
i'll try (like what the stalker's fuck...)
i completely explained mental illness from retarded to completely unhelpable (other than ideas of split personality nonsense) and i'm only hoping that i've kept up or was keeping up.
im 6 years late but this quite literally saved my life thank you. if someone else reads this please keep going you got this!
I need to hear that. I'm struggling. I had no idea others are going through the same thing. I thought I was one in 5 billion.
@user-pv1ix7ts1m there is always an end to a hole even if it seems very deep i promise there will always be a way out you got this bro disassociating is never fun and im sorry you have go to go through it but u must keep pushing u got this
@@boyermchristopher1you certainly aren’t the only one. We’ve got this
@@boyermchristopher1 Dude same. It's so easy to feel absolutely isolated and alone. Sometimes just the realization that this hits nearly everyone all the time is at least a little comforting. Just knowing you aren't alone. But man, you are definitely not alone, because I've been struggling so hard with this lately.
Needed to hear this, too! I ignored my symptoms that built up slowly for three years and didn't seek counseling. It's the point where something has to change because I've never had it this bad before.
"People are not their thoughts, they think they are and it brings them all kinds of sadness." - Way of the Peaceful Warrior
What i struggle with is if we arent our thoughts. Then when we have a thought that makes us feel good e.g. i would like a milkshake and then go get 1
Thoughts don't necessarily always have meaning.
We have so many thoughts in a day and they can be I influenced by our preferences and interests, the more you engage in a specific kind of thought the more of it you have because you show interest in it, for example if you like games and you aren't interested in politics you'll more likely have more game related thoughts. Intrusive thoughts are interesting because they interest a person, not because the person likes what they are thinking about but because of the opposite, we show interest in the thoughts by being abhorrent and trying to suppress them and that makes them grow.
So these malicious thoughts like to deceive people into thinking they are part of their personality, when in fact it is the opposite. And it used evidence like the one you used to try and prove that the thoughts say something about you and that's what makes many people struggle.
I suffered from intrusive thoughts for about 4 months as well and I felt like I was going crazy and I didnt want to tell anyone about the thoughts going on in my head.
So I tried everything, I tried fighting the thoughts but I always had a nagging doubt in my brain, I tried blocking them but they always rebound, I tried writing them on paper and burning them but they were still there. They were there from the moment I woke up and persisting in every second of my day it was torture.
I just couldn't believe that they didn't mean anything about me because of that doubt in my brain.
But I decided to try that letting them be thing.
TRUST ME IT WORKS.
You hating these thoughts and wanting them to go away is evidence that they are separate from you and that you have no control over them.
No matter how painful they may be, DON'T TOUCH THEM.
Just hear the thought in your head without reacting to it or touching it, and it will pass in a minute. Keep doing this and eventually they will go away.
Everytime you react the thoughts it's like giving fuel to fire or watering a plant, and not doing anything and letting it pass means the flower will wither and die.
No matter how much perseverance it takes, do not touch the thought. Leave it and it will go.
My intrusive thoughts all went in about a month or so of practicing this properly. This is how you do it.
There is no point wasting your time and energy on these thoughts because they have nothing to do with you.
Hope this helps.
Just let yourself feel the thought and the surge of anxiety that comes with it everytime, not arguing with it or not engaging with it DOES NOT mean you agree with it.
Your brain tries to suppress the thoughts because it doesn't want to deal with the pain. But if you force it, your brain will learn that these thoughts have no affect on you anymore and it will retreat and the thoughts will stop invading your brain, your whole narrative will go back to normal and you will realise you have been normal the whole time, and even if you have the thoughts from time to time they don't taunt you or stay for long because you know they are baseless and frankly your brain will just stop trying with them.
Trust me I've been through it.
I have these really messed up thoughts about merging with people that I think are negative or just feel negative vibes around them which has caused me to get an obsessive urge or behavior to imagine myself ripping that person's image out of my head/brain because the thought makes me feel like if I dont rip off the person's image or negative energy i could become them or be like them (negatively), been torturing me for 2 1/2 years, what should I do .... :(
The brain always wants to solve the problems it selfs created.
You cant solve a fake problem
Mercy that’s the point tho. That’s the issue.
Mercy yeah and it takes time for us to realize that. This is one of those things that takes time.
Damn, that is deep
@@sz.994 soi true
I’m watching this with tears in my eyes running down my face. I’m glad someone understands
Stephanie Do Stay strong!❤️Chrissie Hodges is another amazing resource for Pure OCD help if you are looking for the next step
I highly recommend listening to evolved spiritual people such as Byron Katie, eckharte Tolle, mooji....all round on RUclips. Different ways of saying the same thing.
Me too
I can totally relate to it
If I tell my depression story then I would be here all night
I read a book that explained how some thoughts are just “junk thoughts,” like flipping through the channels on TV and sometimes it’s just junky ads and infomercials playing. You don’t have to land on those stations and try to decipher meaning from them. I can just keep changing channels until I find one worth landing on. Thank you so much for this video, it was helpful today ❤
What is the book?
Power of now Eckhart Tolle
I read that book too, very helpful!
@@alizetamturk1515overcoming unwanted intrusive thoughts by Sally M Winston
yess. vibes. thank you!! 🙏🫶
Meditation , exercise, and reading have helped dramatically.
What do you read?
positive thinking is also greatful
iFruit96 usually read self care books 👍🏻
@@stephaniecardenas7598 i second u.. can we be friends
Yes I agree... no listening to my thoughts has helped tremendously along with meditation & reading The Power of Now . I'm not even finish with the book yet & it helped me out the past few days.
This goes along with what my therapist said. “If you can’t control it, let it be”
Our RUclips Board has been waiting with bated breath on whether, or not, you have had a therapist.
Its so painful that no one can understand except the one who is struggling!!
Same Everytime I was thinking IAM dying 😢
No shit it's so tough
Yeah man.. it's like hell
Same😢
@@tomboygirl5085 Reduce negative thoughts to have a healthier life. The practice is simple. Your breath is directly related to your mind [brain] causing negative thoughts-anxiety. For a relaxed life sit on a chair, back erect, eyes closed, be as still as possible and observe the sensations of your incoming--outgoing breath at the entrance of the nostrils for around 5-10-15 minutes or more. Don’t fight with your thoughts. Slowly the mind will relax. No deep inhalation-exhalation needed. Anytime of the day or night before sleep sit or lie down on your back and observe your breath. Stillness brings internal peace. Like me, make this a lifetime daily habit to have a good life. Best wishes Shyaaam Sir. -Counsellor.
Bro you have no idea how much better my life has been since watching this 2 weeks ago. Before I went days without sleep because of obsessive thoughts on not being able to sleep. "Why can't I sleep" why am I so anxious and thinking about everything and punishing myself. Now I sleep like a baby and my anxiety about sleep and the past has almost completely gone. I was suicidal and I wanted to die, i was dreeding going to bed😮. Now I'm happy and enjoying myself. Loving life. Really thank you man you habe literally saved my life.❤
Hey can u help me 😭how did u treat urself 😭I'm suffering as same as u please can u help me idk what Is happening to me I can't understand myself 🙏😭
Keep Going 🎉 and smiling.
Hii do mindfulness and meditation along with write down your thoughts everyday before going to sleep(sorry i am not good in english)@@user-hc6dz8di2u
@@user-hc6dz8di2u to me too
@@user-hc6dz8di2uHey Brother or Sister. I will pray for you in Jesus' Name to take away your anxiety and fears and sadness. You will be healed. Believe it. ❤. Jesus Loves you. Try and go back to Him. He will always be willing to help you because you are His child and He took our sins and pain from us by dying on the cross and defeating and death in hell. If you haven't gone/know or been with the Lord. Give Him a try for the first time or again. I guarantee your life will change for the better.
I screamed in my car, STOP IT, GO AWAY THOUGHTS.
Now 3 year later I still struggle and I accept my thoughts. Everyday it’s going better!
God bless you and I pray you continue to improve
Thank you for sharing,I'm working on getting better Also. Keep up the great work,I hope it keeps getting better
Yes it gets better when you accept it and not fight
Nice Salim ! Hope you doing well
But how to accept thought pls tell me
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference.
Amen
Embrace the Bill W. fellowship to change your way of thinking to theirs for the fix.
Amen!
This.
Amen.
Years ago, my wife passed. I started feeling like I was going to have a heart attack every night before I went to sleep and I'd usually lay in bed for 3-4 hours and end up puking from the anxiety before I could sleep. I had to go to a counselor who showed me that there were trigger thoughts that brought about this anxiety. He told me they were like a Chinese finger trap, the more you struggle, the stronger its grasp. The only way to release the Chinese finger trap was to just stop fighting it. This is the same thing with anxiety That I found. When I start feeling those certain thoughts, I pictured a mental stop sign and eventually when I did this, I was able to change the topic of my thoughts and prevent an anxiety attack. I started having fewer and fewer anxiety attacks, no drugs needed. Eventually they just completely went away.
That’s really good advice and insight. Thank you my friend 🙏
I will try the stop sign. Thank you.
Thank you for giving us this advice. I’ve really been struggling with this for over two years now.
Hello, James. I am so sorry about your wife. I'm commenting because my wife is severely ill. She has severe gastroparesis - her stomach and part of he GI tract is paralyzed. We've been fighting it for 4 years now, but everything we've tried either doesn't help or makes it worse. I am watching her waste away. We've been to many docs, and Cleveland Clinic is her main support. We are in our mid 50s and have been married for 30 years. We are soulmates. I am terrified of losing her. She is down to 100 pounds now, and she is a rather tall woman. I just needed to reach out to you, to touch someone who might understand. Despite all I've done to help her, I have failed. I feel so guilty for not figuring out some way to save her. Even my prayers go unanswered - I somehow believe I have failed God or angered him by not meeting his expectations, or I've taken her for granted, and this is God's way of telling me I don't deserve her. Crazy, right? I am so afraid of losing her. Nothing I've done in the past 30 years has meant anything to me unless I was with her when it happened. I'm sorry for dumping on you, but you have somehow learned to survive. I haven't lost her yet, and we still may turn this around, but YOU have somehow survived losing someone you clearly loved deeply. If you are willing to share, could you tell me more about her? About what happened? About how you dealt with or are navigating this trauma? My heart goes out to you, friend. If it is too raw r recent to share, no worries at all. I just needed to get this out tonight. Just know, I'm thinking about you and sending you positive, healing energy. Take care.
How are you now?
This makes so much sense. It’s like our minds are creating these thoughts to scare us in order to keep us ready to protect ourselves-so it’s trying to protect us. And yet, it doesn’t matter because it has no real bearing on who we are or what we do. Observation + detachment = inner peace and freedom.
So very well said! 😊❤
Thank you, so true and wise!
this is amazing 😊
I don’t normally comment, but this video literally changed everything for me . After a couple months of just laughing at my ridiculous thoughts and realizing they’re out of my control, I finally have a weight lifted off my shoulders. Thank you for posting this
Hey man, your comment really has been helping me. There’s a terror of not being in control, but once you calm yourself…there’s a peace that you can’t control everything and to just be your authentic self today.
I know this is a year old but I hope you're still doing well. I feel the same i think... though its only been a few minutes... we'll see 😅
@@hankskorpio5857 during this last year I’ve actually been going to therapy,have been fully diagnosed, and now on medication that helps a ton . This video started it all for me though
@@bcbmtb9748 Not surprisingat at all. This is solid, realistic advice at the very least. This how we heal. By realizing we arent alone. That we can all learn from each other and heal together.
Dont log in and press send to every thought. Delete.
This is me all the time, i wish that i wasnt like this, normal people have no idea what its like to live like this, if they knew they might be more understanding. (edited), Thank you for the likes, but more importantly thank you for the kind words and support. I apologize for not replying to the comments sooner, RUclips seems to enjoy not notifying people of comments -.-
ricksta tricksta it's exhausting isn't it?
yes! I hear people talk about people being lazy and I always worry people they think I am as well. one day i realized, I wouldn't be lazy if I didn't have to deal with all these thoughts and anxiety. I want to accomplish things but I get stuck in my mind to the point I get tired and dont want to even put laundry in my washer. I just recently realized I could be depressed too. it really is sad because I wonder where I could be if I didn't have this going on. I feel for anyone who has to deal with this, it's like hell.
I was like this for over a year. What he says in the video is true, that's the thing that ended my suffering too. A few weeks after starting a mindfulness meditation practice my symptoms finally started to ease. There is a really good free program, just google "palouse mindfulness" and you will find it. Practice every day and maybe start exercising, and drinking enough water. There is also a book which was the single best thing to help me, the title is "At last a life" and it's written by Paul David. I wish you all the best! :)
Matthew 28 "Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.…"
meat Ismurder please I have been in this and is really hell I keep on fighting with my thoughts but it worsen the case but my advice to you all is to seek Jesus Christ the beloved son of God he is the only healer to our sickness
the buddha taught that you should not try to control your thoughts or mental images or emotions, but you should detach from them and become the neutral observer of them. you are not your thoughts, you are not your images, you are not your emotions. you are the non judgemental observer of them. there's you, and there's what's in your head. working with that over time was the beginning of me being able to deal with my pure o. peace to all.
Thomas McGauley I’m copying and pasting this. It helps me very much. Bless you.
omg you summed it up so well but yes this was the epiphany that took me out of my depression about a year ago. this. years and years of depression and anxiety and all i needed to learn is to detach “myself” from my thoughts.
Noah Elkrief makes great videos about this if anyone is interested.
That's important.
Or you can look at this from the point of Stoicism. You only concern yourself with things over which you have control. And if anything bothers you, it's not the actual thing that is bothering you but your opinion of said thing. You have control over your opinion. Change your opinion about your ruminating thoughts. Don't label them or you bad. They just are
Thomas McGauley was gonna say Buddha said it. And I read your comment. Wow
Just hearing stories & reading comments about people that don't have panic & anxiety attacks anymore, makes me feel so much better. Thank you!!
You are a Wonderful Exciting Overcomer ❤😊
Wow I suffered from this and I decided to give my life to Christ and then one day it was completely gone. Thank you Jesus.
All the sudden you just feel healthy?
Wyatt Pine When I asked God to help me, in that exact moment I felt a warmth in my body that gave me hope. My sister and her husband came and prayed for me that night and I gave my life to Christ. I started going to church and it made me feel good but I still struggled for a little while but I kept praying. I had lost 40 pounds. And then I woke up one day and I was just going about my business and I realized that I wasn’t anxious or depressed anymore. I sat there and realized that my prayers had been answered and I started crying thanking Jesus. I started gaining my weight back and eating better and sleeping better. I repented of my sins and put my trust completely in Christ and I’ve never been more at peace. Sometimes I get worried or depressed but it’s nothing compared to what it was. I still break down sometimes when I remember how bad it was and that I don’t suffer like that anymore. I’m kinda getting teary eyed writing this. Anyway God bless. If you’re looking for help I’d say start with Jesus. I would have saved so much money on doctor visits and prescriptions if I had just started with Him first.
Jesus won't do shit good for You tho
Thank you for your testimony brother 🙏 keep telling it because you jus helped me and you can help many of young ppl particularly millennials that deal with this it ain't nothing but demons trying to drive us to self destruct there is power in the blood of the lamb Jesus Christ
ILL SUBZ You know a lot of people tell me that but they’re just ignorant. It’s gone and I am free. You can be free too when you put your trust in Jesus. I live for God’s promises. I tried medication therapy but the problem persisted. Then I tried Jesus and wow what a difference. What you are doing is denying the Holy Spirit and trying to snatch someone out of the hand of God. That is a big no no my friend.
Unwanted thoughts syndrome is one of the scariest things ever. Thank you for sharing this.
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@@googlewantstoknowyourlocat1115 did it work for you?
Try RTMS and EFT therapy and Psychotherapy together seriously! Search about RTMS and EFT therapy in RUclips.
burningblueeyes s be strong work on yourself , try and keep in touch with her , and as she gets older she will have more control over her life , and choices,and when she does you need to be happy healthy and strong ,
Yep, they ARE scary. I'm 47 and have been dealing with this since single-digit age. It does really cripple you, though. I had a great life thus far, but I feel if I could've conquered this early on, I would have enjoyed life even MORE.
What the heck! This was so powerful. The second you said that it was as if a weight lifted off of me. Thank you
Same💞
Me too
Wow. Simple. Easy. But, it seems to be working, instantly.
Hilda Castro ... if you marry me I will not be stressed or obsessive anymore !
Wish I could say the same
I know this video is 6 years old, but I just wanted to say that I almost cried while watching this video. I have been suffering from anxiety for what I feel is all my life, obsessive thoughts have been driving me insane, constant ruminating, and letting my thoughts dictate how I feel about everything. I hate the fact that we cannot control our thoughts because I believe that thoughts may become reality and this combination of such belief and having obsessive thoughts simply make living miserable.
Obsessive thoughts might become your reality only If you latch onto them! Imagine someone constantly thinking '' I'm a bad person, I'm a bad person '' Well If they really do believe that's their identity for whatever reason, then yes, that could manifest in their actions! They could either harm themselves or someone else, hence '' becoming '' a bad person in both scenarios. But If you just let thoughts be, and let them pass, you will realize underneath the chaos there is silence. You are the sky, not the clouds (thoughts). So don't make those clouds angrier and bigger by clinging onto them! Let them pass. Another analogy would be: realize you're the ocean. On the top of the ocean, there are waves and drops, sometimes it gets stormy, but the ocean isn't phased by the waves. It knows Its full vastness and stillness deep down.
@@vuksha_yo Thanks for that comment, it really calmed my mind. It is really nice to hear that beneath all of that ruminating and anxiety is calm and peaceful mind, you just have to think about it the right way. It is so frustrating that you cant let go of thoughts and just think about what you want. For somebody that may be reading this, I also find it helpful to ignore all those things your mind is trying to tell you and just do them(For example-->Your brain tells you to not walk on this side of the road because a car can hit you. You just dont react, and tell yourself that you are defined by your actions not by your thoughts and you keep walking.) It gets better, day by day, just dont lose your hope. There is a light at the end of the tunnel and it gets easier and easier.
I think we have to set healthy boundaries with thoughts just as much as we do with people. After years of struggle and my brain trying to convince I was a monster out of nowhere, a simple No thank you can be enough to get some quiet time.
@@vuksha_yo”-aav[a
They do become a reality and then you have to literally climb out of a hole.
Overthinking and feeling guilty is ruining my life. I can't enjoy simple things anymore and I constantly feel guilty and anxious. Its come to the point where I just want to isolate myself from the rest of the world to stop the constant guilt and anxiety
@melissa perez thank you so much :) that means a lot, hope you're doing well too :)
I feel the same way 😭
I can most definitely relate. Going through a lot of anxiety now and it's so overwhelming and I usually isolate myself when it happens which is mostly everyday.
@@cynthiakotyluk9957yea same here. What's your anxiety like?
I'm not alone
"Empty your mind, be formeless ,shapeless.. like water" -Bruce Lee
"Empty your mind" -Kurt Cobain
I was thinking, I could use 6 or 8 extry cans of that potted meet, if you got it. -Karl Childress.
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Thats what im always trying to do but it always cross my mind then divert my mind..but that process keeps happening and now idk what's more i need to do. I no longer like the way i think anymore,i just ignore everything till literally if just dont care abt everything i disagree abt my thoughts but i have no control. I dont even know what I'm doing rn..my English is bad sorry..keep trying and but it keeps on crossing my mind. Im on my own and im tired of it.
How?
"It's none of my business what I'm thinking" I love it haha
Yhat itself is a thought. So those same thoughts that you believe are not your business are the source of such belief.
Thoughts are everything. Compared to them, we are nothing. We destroy each other and even ourselves because of them. There are thoughts that should let you be in peace to at least get some sleep. But once you wake up, it's a war. They will always attack. You may make someone shut up if you don't need them talking to you, but those thoughts are talking to us from another world. Your experiences are taking place on earth, they will always have something to say. Think of your thoughts, like you change the direction of a lattern or a hose, point it towards the source.
It’s the 28th of Augest 2024, after listening to this video all of my thoughts are now at the back of my mind and don’t scare me as much as they did. I used to have really bad panic attacks and only just started to overcome them with mindfulness but this video has just lifted a weight of my shoulders. I used to have terrible thoughts and let them define me and from now on I won’t. I will update this comment in a week from now and hopefully I still feel the weight gone or better than I did yesterday. Keep going people there’s light at the end of the tunnel
Every morning I have been waking up feeling like I’m having a heart attack from constant worry and anxiety. It’s nice to know I’m not crazy! Watching this video again and again until it goes away! Thank you!!
Same :( don’t you have a foggy mind?
is it working?
OMG it's the same with me
I hope you're feeling better I feel the same way
lol "watching this video again and again until it goes away"' when talking about obsessiveness, pure-o, and rumination
I swear this is my biggest battle right now thank you for this I’m trying my hardest
Same man, I never thought a kind person wanted to kill everyone(my thoughts, and yes I'm a very kind person)
@@kosmile1737 I'm dealing with impure thought please help me some time my thought will have like sucking someone duck u know what I mean and soemtime it become loop and it make me cry and kill myself also those though are from past memory and I can't get ride of them and I love God and I want to get closer to God I want to be the child of God but my though is fill with dirty stuff and I really hate it help me it alway come back I can even control them
@@nuambawi9872 Same I'm a Muslim, I read Quran and my mind is better
@@nuambawi9872 I know what you’re going through, hell...I’m going through it right now but always remember that you’re ALWAYS a child of God. No matter what you do, he will always and forever love you.
How you doing nw
THE SECRET IS NOT TO TRY TO MANAGE THOUGHTS, IT'S TO MANAGE NOT REACTING WITH EMOTIONAL RESPONSES BY USING CURRENT FEELINGS ON MEMORIES. The day you can catch yourself reacting to your thoughts, ask if they are true today, and if not change the perspective....you will be liberated. It's a constant practice like battling another person in your head. Just don't feed your ego. Know that your mind isn't separate from your body, but you can separate what you know is your ego from present truth, recognize its your ego, and it's only learned patterns of behavior sometimes based on shit that is 20 years old. Like he says in the video. It's not real. And just because you think something about your past doesn't make it a present part of who you are today. Let it go. If you were cut off in traffic, it can cause rage, but you usually can rationalize and let it go and have already forgot about it when you get home. Everything is like that you can train yourself to have conditioned responses, fake it til you make it - but if you don't try it you will never heal. Live only in the present moment. It's all that exists. I really hope this helps someone.
Ur commnt is really worth reading 🤗nd "fake it till u make it " line felt as if it was jst for me
So true !!!All anxiety thoughts come from our big ego!!!Dostoevsky when he lost his son after an epileptic crisis he had depression because he thought that was his caracter and genies the reason for his child's death !!!Then he went to a monastery in Russia and when he completely lost his ego through pray he managed after a year to come back to his normal life!!!
It's actually a liberating thought, that we can manage the impact of past experiences on us, training ourselves to thave conditioned responses. Because you know, it's true, the present moment is all we got, so it would be great to not let our past experiences ruin it...
Yet this person provides terrible, terrible advice, by simplifying the whole ordeal and saying "you can't control your thoughts", which simply isn't true. You can control them, by no giving them attention or emotional attachment and understanding them as unwanted. I can't tell you how much my life was absolutely shattered into pieces from this poor advice and I was too weak and desperate to look deeper. This person opened a can of worms in my mind and I know real suffering thanks to this person. I can't tell you the contempt I hold for this man.
Projekt_#710 well said.
Thank you so much for the tip. Grieving a relationship along with these obsessive and ruminating thoughts is just too much. And the thoughts are conflicting too..which makes it worse. Like someone else in the comment section said, one moment I’m a bad person and another moment , I broke a cycle in which I was constantly being labelled, judged and taken advantage of. I’m just gonna let the thoughts flow…one day I’ll discover myself again. One day I’ll get back my presence and focus. My heart goes out to everyone going through this situation. Let it be…and one day we’ll be at peace with these thoughts.
This is the exact same thing that brought me here. I had two deep breakdowns in 2 days from overwhelming myself with obsessive thoughts and rumination. This helped me so much. To rediscovering ourselves 🥂
how ya doing?
I can’t stop thinking these thoughts’ I’m in a loop, starting to effect my sleep, feel like I’m going mad
First you understand that your brain lies constantly about different situations it maybe about past or future, first of all our mind is related with time.
When we think about past you need to aware that while we thinking about past we are recreating the same incident in the brain and I'm assuring that there will be time difference and the current difference. While we overthink our brain creates an infinite loop of negative thoughts.
@@muhammedbilal9355 bro thank u so much this is my problem that i have and u have helped me a lot thank u bro
@@muhammedbilal9355 I'm dealing with impure thought please help me some time my thought will have like sucking someone duck u know what I mean and soemtime it become loop and it make me cry and kill myself also those though are from past memory and I can't get ride of them and I love God and I want to get closer to God I want to be the child of God but my though is fill with dirty stuff and I really hate it help me it alway come back I can even control them
@@muhammedbilal9355 I have this exact problem. Sometimes I feel like people who I love and who love me want to hurt me - even though I know it’s not true I sometimes believe it because my intrusive thoughts start looking for evidence in the past. I don‘t know what to do and I feel so bad about it.
@@nuambawi9872 Me too , I love God but dirty thoughts keep coming in my head Sometimes I wanna kill my self but then I realized I will go to hell for suicidal . It’s hard😢😭 ,pray for me please 🙏🙏
I can't stress enough how liberating this simple truth was for me. Rumination often led me to the brink of what felt like madness and I thought I would never learn to control it. I lived in constant fear of my next cycle so believe me when I say I am wishing you peace of mind and loads of hope.
Share what has worked for you so we can all learn from each other.
hi i have a questio did you go off antidepressants
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Nice video by the way
for some reason my mind some times have 0 Thoughts like literally 0 pure silence its strange has f
Absolutely! Actions do count!
I was wondering the same Noah are you taking antidepressants ?
I feel like someone’s trying to help me, I keep getting vids recommended
Literally same, and it’s helping so much
SAME
Legit fkn same
youtubes algorithm boo😂
@@kizarto bro how are you doing
It seems that this is actually a common occurrence rather than an isolated one. With more people open to discuss this fact may bring some relief to many. Sometimes we do not talk about issues due to shame, but you are right. Thoughts are thoughts, do not entertain them, do not fight them, do not ignore them, stay your ground and be truthful to your integrity and values. Thanks for sharing.
My dad also told me the same thing.
You can't control your thoughts, you can't control what randomness comes into your mind, you can't control what you feel but while it isn't easy to do so (I still have trouble with it sometimes), when I realize that I have no control over it and it is what it is, it just lets itself go.
Basically, when I realize that there's nothing I can do about it and if it happens, it happens, I just stop worrying about it (because there's nothing I can do about it) and that feeling is liberating.
I find it better to just focus and think about things that I can actually work on as opposed to things out of my control.
Your brain will sometimes troll itself so don't feed the troll.
Well said
What if someone else is influencing your thoughts through frequencies, repetitive programing, chemicals sprayed in the skies, foods we eat, medication said to help us? I know we can say the same, 'nothing we can do about it' but that's not completely true yet I believe is happening.
@@Boyeaton1YES this. There’s a massive thing going on like this. It’s one of the biggest forms of control that exist on Earth. I have been through blatant attacks and programming like this. There is NOTHING who has helped me more than Jesus. He will help those who come to him.
Don’t feed the troll..
Man great way of putting it
Very well said
I almost feel crying as this video brought such relief to me. I have severe anxiety and derealization and I get scared everytime I think of it. However, watching this video brings me relief because I just have to accept I have no control of my thoughts and I need to focus on my actions and let them pass. It's been so much fucking hell the past 4 months and this is something I really needed and have repeated again, again and again until it really sinks in.
FrostFM [OST Theme Music] : Hang in there . There is light at the end of the tunnel. As a matter of fact, you are the light beyond your thoughts and emotions. Read about Eckhart Tolle , The Power of Now and also check out Higher Self Channel meditations. His name is Lincoln Gergar and he gets to the root of issues. His mediations are mind blowing and very powerful. Don't let your thoughts judge a book by its cover. You will not regret and will be grateful how therapeutic his messages are. God bless!
I feel the same way and this just started for me last Friday and I literally been in the house stuck in fear of thinking I’m not normal no more
KING LOS I’ve been like this for a while now it is very scary but remember what you was like before last Friday it’s just your mind going to into an anxious state just let them pass
Your not the only one gotta say it's pretty exhausting and a hassle I know 😒
Kush Dash thank you so much for the reply you gave me hope because it’s hard explaining to family or people who don’t understand and it can make you feel as if your going crazy so I’m tryna be positive and keep faith that this will go pass and I’ll be alright it’s now been two weeks for me I’ve been feeling somewhat better it’s just the depersonalization or derealization thingy that’s apart of anxiety
I am a psychologist and whenever I work with anyone who has OCD/pure O I show them your clip "This saved my life: dealing with obsessive thoughts and rumination" The way you describe how a mindful approach changed things for you is so brilliant: iit is indisputable to anyone watching that you know from sxoerience precicely what they are going through, and you explain the power of detaching from your thoughts with such conviction that they are prepared to trust you and comit to the approach. Thanks for your example, it helps a lot of people. Much respect to you.
@Dark Fang thank you for your contribution.
It’s serious stuff. Wow. The ignorance on here. Really guys?!
@Dark Fang Why? I would like to know what do you think about this video because my therapist actually thinks the same as Arena Galaxy... is it bad?
Hello mam can suggest something to me for ocd I want to withdrawal medicine
@Dark Fang Why would you say such a thing? This is literally the cure, turning you from a prisoner back into the pilot of your life again
The whole concept of not being able to control your thoughts is huge!! As an HSP/Empathetic person it’s so easy take things personally.
Agree 100%
a lot of videos out there say "Control your thoughts" etc but its wrong. because it makes the problem worse, right? not controlling thoughts is the way to go.
ty for this, i feel like am going crazy. i feel like crying, because i dont want to be alone with my thoughts
Its OK don't give up because if u give up it won't get better so don't your not alone everybody watching this is suffering I'm suffering and it sucks but there just thoughts if u want them to stop then you aren't thoughts if u were you would be woow imma do that thought or something so just live them don't controll
Everardo Cancino man bro I feel the same way. I’ve contemplated suicide many times and could never look past everything plaguing me. I’ve finally after a couple years found a solution you have to look for help. No matter how low u feel how much you cry. U need to tell someone man
Not alone
I too man it sucks balls so bad! I wake up nervous every morning worried for shit that hasn't happened. Try to motivate myself but doesnt work I forget how happiness feels. I have to hide my feels sometimes cause I don't want my loved ones to get tired of me. Why do the days looks so gloomy😣
Google: dont feed the monkey mind
I recently read a book called overcoming OCD(part of an overcome series), and it stresses how much OCD seems to affect those of humanity who are the most sensitive and caring. Those of us who have such high morals and try our hardest to uphold those morals. And we punish ourselves when our thoughts go against those morals. It helped a lot to read that and read the examples of people with similar OCD. It also said that those with OCD are the safest people in the world, because of our morals and because of our strength trying to fight our OCD and these thoughts, but like you said, we can't control them. We can only control our actions. And after reading that book, the intrusive thoughts have kind of eased up. They still occur but I'm trying not to react. They're there, ok, just a thought, move on. And I know I'm a good person. I want to help people. I want people to be happy. I never want harm to come to another person. I'm a good person. I'm thinking of switching college course now to pursue a career as a counsellor so I can help people and also gain some more insight into the brain. OCD is a bitch, but overall, we are the safest people in the world and we can all beat this.
this reply made me cry :( I am the exact same way. I feel the exact same way. I want to be a doctor so bad and sometimes I am afraid that I won't be able to be a good one because of all these thoughts. I pray to God every day that I beat it once and for all.
ThatGirlPearl you need to go for it. Running from what you want only strengthens your fears. Facing them and trying to be a doctor will help you to overcome them. Get the book I mentioned and it will help you so much. Even the examples unburden such a weight. I'm also on lustral at the moment on 150mg and practicing positive thinking. There's a really good app called insight timer. It's free and it has meditations and all these talks about positive thinking, meditation, spirituality. Everything. I really wish you all the best, but remember what I said about people with OCD being the kindest? The fact that you have these thoughts shows how kind you are, and I really hope you become a doctor because I feel you'd be one of the best out there. 😊
thank you so much!!!!!! I will buy it right now. some days i am fine, and its easy to get rid of the thoughts. other days it can be quite crippling to where I feel like i need to go home and be alone and think of why I am thinking the way that I do. I think I am more hard on myself bc I see myself as a Christian and the biggest thing I beat myself up about is that Christians don't think this way. Which then leads me to question myself as a person. I will definitely keep going for the goal I appreciate your words more than you know.
Hi Peter....by any chance, do you have the author's name? There seems to be a multitude of books on the same topic with similar names. Your comments were very useful and I'm glad to hear how this method has helped you. I could use this as well. Thanks in advance for your help.
Scott Kochman yep it's by David veale and rob Wilson 😊 hope it helps.
Two things that helped me (among many)
1. The tiny but powerful book "Overcoming Unwanted Intrusive Thoughts: A CBT-Based Guide to Getting over Frightening, Obsessive, or Disturbing Thoughts"
2. When I wake up in panic I tell myself: "It is just a morning jolt of cortisol, all is well" - and this has helped so much that I rarely wake up with the jolt anymore.
This video just came up out of nowhere … it feels like divine intervention …I was caught in a loop and there this was.Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
You very may have just saved my life! I have terrible anxiety & panic attacks constantly.
Grant Crow .... Grant - read The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle. He was so close to killing himself then had an epiphany! This is not like ANY other book- throw the rest away. This book saved me and thousands of people. It will help you beyond what you ever thought possible!!!
I feel you bro
I'm having really bad anxiety attacks also.......I'm fucked up with them
Me too
@@dthang9248 it's fucking hard ......I wish you all the best in the future ✌🏻❤
"There's something wrong with my brain, it's broken!" It keeps me trapped, imprisoned, stuck in a quagmire. I can't move forward, I can't move backwards, I can't stop the repetitive, negative, worrying, upsetting, self-critical, anxiety producing, obsessive thoughts from assaulting me. The angst of "If I... maybe I... could've, should've, would've, must've... Around and around and around and around... I'm powerless, I've no control... The juxtaposition of my calm, collected, polished exterior versus the pure torture inside my mind.. and make no mistake IT-IS-PURE-TORTURE!!! Until this moment. Nine minutes and nineteen seconds. I could never have imagined it possible --that freedom would come at 9:20 seconds. I've watched your video for the 4th time before writing this message, will watch again after I'm finished. A great sigh of relief, a great burden lifted. It's not JUST me! I'm not crazy! It IS just my thoughts (which are powerless and simply trying to frighten me) IT Has a Name! Now I can tame it! Noah, a most gracious thank you, you've freed me! Exhaling for the first time in many years...
LM NOP me too!!! i swear EVERYTIME I get those thoughts now, I go back to this video!! I hope you all know that you’re not alone!!! Big love !! Your thoughts aren’t you!!
My brain does what it wants, I can’t escape over thinking and often feel alone but I hate making people closest to me sad so I keep it all in.
J me too, but I've found talking about these thoughts with people close to me helps to realize they're just nonsense
J That describes exactly what I go through and have gone through for the last decade.
I suffered from intrusive thoughts for about 4 months as well and I felt like I was going crazy and I didnt want to tell anyone about the thoughts going on in my head.
So I tried everything, I tried fighting the thoughts but I always had a nagging doubt in my brain, I tried blocking them but they always rebound, I tried writing them on paper and burning them but they were still there. They were there from the moment I woke up and persisting in every second of my day it was torture.
I just couldn't believe that they didn't mean anything about me because of that doubt in my brain.
But I decided to try that letting them be thing.
TRUST ME IT WORKS.
You hating these thoughts and wanting them to go away is evidence that they are separate from you and that you have no control over them.
No matter how painful they may be, DON'T TOUCH THEM.
Just hear the thought in your head without reacting to it or touching it, and it will pass in a minute. Keep doing this and eventually they will go away.
Everytime you react the thoughts it's like giving fuel to fire or watering a plant, and not doing anything and letting it pass means the flower will wither and die.
No matter how much perseverance it takes, do not touch the thought. Leave it and it will go.
My intrusive thoughts all went in about a month or so of practicing this properly. This is how you do it.
There is no point wasting your time and energy on these thoughts because they have nothing to do with you.
Hope this helps.
Just let yourself feel the thought and the surge of anxiety that comes with it everytime, not arguing with it or not engaging with it DOES NOT mean you agree with it.
Your brain tries to suppress the thoughts because it doesn't want to deal with the pain. But if you force it, your brain will learn that these thoughts have no affect on you anymore and it will retreat and the thoughts will stop invading your brain, your whole narrative will go back to normal and you will realise you have been normal the whole time, and even if you have the thoughts from time to time they don't taunt you or stay for long because you know they are baseless and frankly your brain will just stop trying with them.
Trust me I've been through it.
take iboga ...
Overthinking has sneakily and not so sneakily controlled my whole life in painful ways. I did this tip the past 12 hours and has so far done more than I could imagine. Thank you so much. I’m 40 and getting some hope.
… and I actually slept last night!
It’s been 3 months now , how has everything been ?
definitely better . this work takes practice@@taylorhill9547
Wow, this explains what I’ve been going through and dude I’ve just been giving them to God. Everytime I have the thoughts, I say “God, here is this thought, here you go - I trust you with it. I will not worry”. And I just imagine my self throwing the thought to God. And my gosh and it has been getting so much easier! Trying to fully believe that these stupid nasty thoughts are not me they are either from my flesh or from the devil. Not from me one bit. If any of you believe God and Jesus Christ. I definitely recommend prayer for God to help you with these things. There are Christians that deal with this as well and they have had to learn how to overcome it through prayer and being mindful of their blessings and their present moment. God can completely deliver you from OCD as well. He’s delivered many from it. Just keep praying and keep giving your worries to God
Amen. Thanks
Isaiah Ridge thank you I’ve been struggling with ocd and this is what I needed to hear
So true. The video and your comment have helped me a lot. Sometimes we forget we have someone to help us all the time, and feel lonely. But I instantly feel calm when I just hand my thoughts to God.
Well I have OCD, high anxiety and depression and being born in a christian religious family they made my situation way worse adding the supersticious fear of sins, god and hell! In church my OCD went crazy to the point I thought I was possessed! My life become hell, I couldn't sleep and I was dysfunctional at school and my environment, while I had to keep all this chaos secret from everybody! I had to do my rituals and nobody should notice me which was the hardest thing to live with.... , life was a torture for me.
When I got older I researched christianity and the bible and realized it was all made up lies! I got better since I abandoned this fearmongering religion and realized the fraud of religion and now I base everything on logic. Philosophy, history researching ancient rituals and their meaning and the seek of wisdom with critical thinking is what really saved me! People with mental issues can become way worse with a blind belief at superstitious fearmongering illogical and unnatural religions! Do whatever makes you feel better but... Be careful!
The god in the bible hates human nature (it's obvious for anyone who have read it)he isn't a god of love as they ''sell'' it! But thankfully there is no punishment of god or evil demons, It's just us and the chemistry of our brain. Maybe our senses are more sensitive than others! Maybe our brains are like supersensitive antenas catching thoughts and energies that others can't! Society and religious superstitions and the oppression of the established normality is what really making us feel bad for our thoughts and behavior! There is a always a reason for everything, Nature doesn't make mistakes, people do! Our condition maybe a blessing not a weakness! Probably there is divinity in nature but definitely not as the christians, Islamists or Jews teach it! All the abrahamic religions want is to control over you! Don't give it to them! They accept a dogma - an already given absolute ''truth'', leaving no room for criticism or researching reality on your own!
We shouldn't be prejudged, just ignoring our bad thoughts or pretend to giving them to a imaginary being... this can lead to more dangerous paths... adding illusions or inducing paranoia. Also ignoring them is not an option since doesn't make them go away, we should lead them and have power on them! Embrace your nature there is always a good thought behind every bad one, try to find it. Changing the way your brain is being tuned by our modern society will also change the way it functions and thus the thoughts you ''receive''. Trust yourself and avoid anything that makes you feel unhappy. work with meditation and yoga and thai chi or ritualistic dancing, or whatever you think can empower you spiritualy, even pagan rituals (that worked for me) and make your rituals a tactic (ex every morning) welcoming and worshiping of nature, that protects you all day long and prevents the chaos around you! instead of a frustrating and exhausting necessity that may happen at the worst moment possible!
OCD isn't something new, it always existed in humanity (at least with special individuals) and the very first rituals and spiritualism started from people like us... think about it!
@@HASHEAVEN I believe in God and don't believe in hell or rituals or ghosts. The bible does not support hell and "weird stuff" and I am sorry you had such a bad experience with religion, many people have, because most religions are fake and don't know what they're talking about. In my case, I study the bible and the belief in God has logic to me. It makes sense. But I'm not going to argue with you, I'm just sharing my experience like you did :)
Dude, you’re describing my every waking moment. I’ve spent probably over a decade now just constantly plagued my this madness of sorts. I’m so glad there are people who have experienced this exact feeling
Wow you survive a decade with this ? Just wow wow wow
Hope you are doing better. Im struggling with this badly everyday. Its so hard not to react to every single thought. I wanna think about everything! Its so painful.
@@whtmustang I been struggling with this since the beginning of highschool
Fast foward senior year it’s still the same I’m just trying to figure out what it is that can and can’t help for me to stop my thoughts
Noah, have you heard of the book “Boundaries” by Henry Cloud and John Townsend? I read it 2 years ago and it completely changed my life. I’m actually re-reading it right now.
I’ve been a catastrophe thinker since I was a kid, so I can relate to the struggle! I’m better than I used to be which is good.
Proud of u man:) !
I seriously felt like I was alone with this and NEVER thought of coming to RUclips for help like this. My brain sticks to things that hurt me for days on end and it’s hard to forget.
I’m going to try to apply this to my feelings. Because the anxiety-filled and negative feelings I have are so intensely imbedded. I want so desperately to be free of these feelings of depression and anxiety. Thanks for taking the time to post this.
It’s been 3 months , how have things been ? :)
I couldn't thank much,I cried.Your motivation really drove me out from heavy thoughts.After 6 long years,it's finally ended.😭😭
Alhumdullilah, I’m happy for you.
Yay!!
Hope your still doing amazing
How much time it takes
I’m 43 I’ve had this problem since I was 20 and every year it got better, I just get more used to it, now I’m just having fun, thanks for the good advice, Noah
How it reduce?
How ?
Do you have any tips on how to best deal with it or any thoughts I could use I get rid of it instantly?
I'm going the opposite way 😢
@@sammullett17your gona be ok
I’ve seriously damaged relationships in my life (distancing myself, closing off, not calling people, etc.) because of my excessive rumination and gullibility. My brain doesn’t stop at self-psychoanalysis but also others too. Thank you for this video, although I’m not sure I internalized it.
Gahhhh dammm frr on the calling ppl part closing off giving bad hints when u rly dont feel that type of way
You gotta be alongside yourself man. In this healing journey that you deserve, you have to drop everything and be by your side and with yourself. Every thought and feeling you have is worthy and valid and deserves love and compassion. You deserve love and compassion
Do you suffer from insomnia too?
oh man!
@@tequilabumbum4373 I did when I was younger, I'd stay awake on school nights until three hours before school regularly. I think regular exercise is key... I started regularly working out when I was 20 and now I'm 24. I remember before that I would either not try to sleep (video games, yt, twitch) or I'd lay in bed devouring myself internally. I wish I was introduced to good books back then, one day I want to give my kids the most insightful books ever written.
You just explained what every spiritual teacher struggles to explain.
They say things like:
"You are not your thoughts"
"The more you think about it, the more you feed it"
"Think of your thoughts like clouds passing trough the sky"
"Just observe your thoughts"
And lots of other things that just add thoughts and rumination to my brain...
When in reality, the only thing that makes me understand it, is:
"You can't control your thoughts"
That's all...
Thank you for this.
Holy crap, why did I believe I was so different. The first two minutes of this video felt like my life. Thanks for the video!!
1) your thoughts are not you
2) you can't control your thoughts
3) don't react to them
4) Don't feed them
5) be mindful ( sometimes you can laugh on your own thoughts)
Yes..laugh at them😂😂😂😂😂
It really helped me when I realized that sometimes my brain lies to me. So I learned to ignore it when it happens. Your right it’s not the obsessive thought, it’s what you do with it. Just dismiss it! And give your brain something productive etc to think on. Or a nice physical activity. Etc.
You scury lookin.
One analogy that also helped me was i pictured myself standing in the railway station, trains flying by and me just looking at them as i am standin still. The same happens in your mind. You can just imagine yourself standing on the platform and the trains that are going really fast are your thoughts. But you can just observe them you dont have to step on them. Kind of like mindful meditation where you just "observe" the thoughts in your mind as they are passing by. Observation + detachment = inner peace and freedom.
these thoughts killed me. I can’t sleep or eat. I feel like i’m a prisoner in my own mind. and all i can do is let my emotions take control of me. and i don’t know what to do. this helped. thank you
man we have the same situation but my thoughts always reapets ..just accept it and dont ignore it, its hard but the more u deny it the more it sunks in your mined
I had an intrusive thought bother me for a whole year but just as soon as i got over that a new thought took its place
Same thing happens to me it's really evil and makes me sad but my partner keeps me strong .
I suffered from intrusive thoughts for about 4 months as well and I felt like I was going crazy and I didnt want to tell anyone about the thoughts going on in my head.
So I tried everything, I tried fighting the thoughts but I always had a nagging doubt in my brain, I tried blocking them but they always rebound, I tried writing them on paper and burning them but they were still there. They were there from the moment I woke up and persisting in every second of my day it was torture.
I just couldn't believe that they didn't mean anything about me because of that doubt in my brain.
But I decided to try that letting them be thing.
TRUST ME IT WORKS.
You hating these thoughts and wanting them to go away is evidence that they are separate from you and that you have no control over them.
No matter how painful they may be, DON'T TOUCH THEM.
Just hear the thought in your head without reacting to it or touching it, and it will pass in a minute. Keep doing this and eventually they will go away.
Everytime you react the thoughts it's like giving fuel to fire or watering a plant, and not doing anything and letting it pass means the flower will wither and die.
No matter how much perseverance it takes, do not touch the thought. Leave it and it will go.
My intrusive thoughts all went in about a month or so of practicing this properly. This is how you do it.
There is no point wasting your time and energy on these thoughts because they have nothing to do with you.
Hope this helps.
Just let yourself feel the thought and the surge of anxiety that comes with it everytime, not arguing with it or not engaging with it DOES NOT mean you agree with it.
Your brain tries to suppress the thoughts because it doesn't want to deal with the pain. But if you force it, your brain will learn that these thoughts have no affect on you anymore and it will retreat and the thoughts will stop invading your brain, your whole narrative will go back to normal and you will realise you have been normal the whole time, and even if you have the thoughts from time to time they don't taunt you or stay for long because you know they are baseless and frankly your brain will just stop trying with them.
Trust me I've been through it.
Inej Ghafa my thoughts are really really bad and if I just let them be there I’m afraid That I will start to believe them
@@whatyssjhsswhatsysys1504 im sorry its the only way out you gotta go through pain and believe stuff for awhile but after that you will stop doubting and you will realize whats true and not true you gotta go through rain before you get to sunshine work hard in school and get a good job or drop out and live poor its the same way with ocd
Honestly, thank you so much. The feeling of freedom from this demon is extremely relieving. I feel like I can finally have a fun and nice stressless life. Thank you 👏🏻
Any advice
A few months ago, I watched this video when I was going through my worst moment, experiencing intense intrusive thoughts and high adrenaline, afraid of everything-afraid of hearing voices, of seeing something, afraid of myself. THIS VIDEO CHANGED MY LIFE. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! Just stop caring about your thoughts; most of the time they are insignificant. Completely emotional as I write this, within the turmoil you think it might never pass but it does, and this honest and simple video was crucial in my process of getting better.
Wow! I cried through most of this video! I can't tell you how much I needed to hear this! The last couple of days have been so dark feeling, with feeling like there was no light ahead. My anxiety felt like it was going to get the best of me! I've felt like I may be losing myself. But this truly was a ray of light in my darkness. I'm probably going to watch this at the beginning of each day, for a while. Thank you so much for sharing this!
Hope your getting better
victor Ruiz - thank you! I turned a corner and am doing much better! Still got a ways to go, but taking it one day at a time. 😊
Joan M.
Hope you are good. I am suffering from depressive disorder. My key problem is ruminations. And I can't control it. I do it unconsciously even right after I am awak. It would be nice if you keep me on updating. Share your tips.
May you live happy. May you have what you seek. May you live like an angel. Thanks
Jesus wants you to be fully delivered from your pain! He is ready to take it. Ask Him and He will surely provide
I feel your pain, I am going through this at the moment and it’s truly awful.
thank you random guy from the internet💗
Sometimes your thoughts are not your own. Some, are yours with intention, some are just random imaginations, and others can come from the good and bad in a spiritual sense.
Wishing love, health, and happiness for this man
“It’s got nothing to do with you” thank you for this. 🙏🏻. I will be applying this, every time I get stupid thoughts.
Man, i never thought of it that way, i always wondered why my mind goes crazy at work during the day; i thought i was a freaking psycho or something.
At times i felt like i had no control,i was worried and felt like a weirdo.
Thanks for clearing that up, this helps me so much Noah.
Every time i get to a revelation and everything goes away my brain adapts and goes back to previous state. It’s amazing how deep the depression is rooted.
this was 5 years ago, but still want to thank you. these are powerful words, and have yet to find anyone to tell me to think like this and i love it
Omg!? My brain is exactly like yours?! I thought I was alone in over analyzing and questioning everyone and everything. Intentions, history of interactions with people !,?thank you for video !
Richard Kucklinski hello fellow Polak 💕 you’re not alone!!!!!! Much love and peace to you
M ABCC lol
Richard Kucklinski me too man
same here. I'm so relieved now.
Nah big dawg....you not. I used to think the same thing till i seen this video.
Fish oils, vitamin d or get some sun, super b complex, eat healthier & work out! 5 or more days a week even if it's just walking a couple miles per day. DO IT. And meditation/mindfulness 10 or more minutes per day.
Also what this guy said. The storm always lifts. Good luck.
Mediation is key. 😌
lowkey 425 Yes, same with me. The only thing that’s works for me is medical science! I try lots of times to come of the anti depressant, and then after six weeks , I’m depressed again.
What the op of this section says is not complete BS however. Medication is also based on giving your body the molecules it needs.
No offense brother, but it sounds like you have never had a true mental illness...There's a lot more to it than the afformentioned
True, rumination for me gets worse in the winter. I think rumination is a form of OCD that forms out of a certain event
I have similar experiences. It sounds so simple but: You can only beat your fears if you don't fear them anymore. Try to fully accept them and their possible consequences and DON'T CARE about them anymore. Then the fears have no more power over yourself and go away by themselves. I know it's easier said than don, but it can be done. It works.
"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself"
@@4amcuriosity162 bro please help me. My whole future is been destroyed due to ocd .i get repetitive thoughts on and on
He makes an important point. You can't just say you have no control over your thoughts and feelings, you have to "know" it without a doubt.
I’m finding it so hard to control myself and my thoughts for many reasons. But I’m finding it even more hard to give up and harm myself. I’m gonna beat this, I’m gonna stay strong, and I’m gonna motivate the world with my story. As much as I’m not okay, it’s okay I feel this way. We are all in this together, don’t give up. I know that’s an understatement, but there’s an end to this. I promise.
When I found out that so many people have those crazy random thoughts (sometimes violent and cruel, yes) I started feeling more comfortable with myself. I used to think i was going crazy as well. Another very good and simple thing that has helped me along my journey is that basic premise of meditation: "do not identify with the thoughts in your mind, because they are not yours, they are in your mind for a moment, just let it vanish".
Thank u
I'm crying while watching this, thank you..
same here I am goin through this
Hey@@annikaseecharran4383
It hurts so much...
breana gardener YOURE NOT ALONE , WE GOT THIS💪🏼💯
I'm a dude and I was crying too and crying is not weakness!
What made me really relax about life in general, was realizing that nothing matters, unless I decide that it matters to me. Money, emotions, people, love, goals, ethics...none of it has more value than I give it.
Change your perspective to look at the world without the bias of your emotions. If your partner leaves, they only matter if you keep letting them matter to you, which you typically do due to emotions. Figure out the emotion that makes you feel bad, figure out why you feel that, and challenge its value to your life moving forward. Find the source of the feeling. E.g. if someone left you, is it being alone that scares you? Is it that you don't think you'll ever find love again? Is it that it hurts to lose someone who meant something to you? Do you have abandonment issues? Is it a lost future or dream life? Find out what it is, acknowledge the source of the feeling, and think about why you have it, and why it matters to you in this moment or for your future.
Rationalize about whether your emotions make sense; they're telling you something bad happened, and they might be right, but does it help you to ruminate over it and have this matter to you? Do you actually need this in your life to be happy? Isn't it actually very possible that you'll find something to replace what you lost? You don't have to stop caring! Just stop making things matter, if they are bad and you have no control over them, e.g. other people's thoughts and feelings about you. If your partner left or a friend doesn't want to be your friend anymore, then that's their choice. You can fight it, but when they've made that drastic choice, why would you let them matter to you in any way?
It's OK to be alone for a while. Do new things for yourself, indulge in your hobbies and dreams, and challenge your fears. Then you will find like-minded people on the way, and everything will work itself out. Turn off the screens, and go do something for YOU!
This was so powerful to me. I read it three times and I will always remember your words. Thank you.
@@simonebakker9031 I'm happy this helped you
Thank you for answering me, how kind of you.😊 I recognize myself in all of your words and you gave me something to think about. A new mindset so I will have less anxiety and I will try to let other people not determine my mood and mind. I have to realise that some things don't matter. I simply must not give so much value to situations or people. They are actually not so important to me, so I can let go of these things in my ongoing mind.
Thanks again, this helped me more than you realise . And by the way, I am dutch. 😊
With the bottom of my heart , thank you. I never thought a RUclips video made 3 years ago would impact me so much. For most of my life, I felt trapped in my thoughts and doubts that made me feel like a horrible person. And recently, it's been the worst it has ever been. I was beginning to think that all hope was gone and that I was just stuck in the worst, most depressing feeling. I can finally breathe. I almost never comment on a video, (let alone share anything about myself) but I really feel like I should at least say thank you. This video and the comment section makes me feel so much less alone. Probably gonna watch this video a couple more times down the road for those dark moments.
I just had a huge anxiety attack while in town, kept it together long enough to get home. Then started looking it up and stumbled upon your video. Then couldn't stop crying. Thank you so much for this powerful learning experience 🙏
Brooooo , honestly it feels good knowing I'm not the only one
I know I’m super late to the party, but WOW!!!!! Out of all the videos I’ve seen from everyday people giving advice, to trained professionals, this is by far the best video I’ve ever seen!!! Hands down the greatest advice. I’ll be 41 one this year and I’ve been struggling with severe anxiety, depression, and ocd from probably 20 year if not more. I just recently started dealing with health anxiety….. like bad!!! I’ve been down every rabbit hole for every disease, and all of my labs are perfect. No heart issues, not liver issues, no kidney issues, no diabetes, no autoimmune diseases… nothing! I believe after all the year of untreated stress and anxiety, my brain has been effect somehow. I know high levels of cortisol can cause damage if untreated for long periods. Thank you so much for this video!!!
I watched your video when I hit rock bottom mentally and it saved me in so many ways. Everything you mentioned I could relate to, from feeling like I was going crazy to feeling the need to check myself into a mental institution. It also allowed me room to truly focus on my mental health because I questioned why something simple, as a thought, could cause me to ruminate& obsess for years& years. I started going to the gym on a daily basis, watching your video regularly to remind myself to think rationally, and even lowered my caffeine intake. Yet these thoughts still plagued my mind & something simple but powerful hit me one day: ever since I started drinking regularly & heavily these obsessive thoughts had overtaken my mind. For four years I have battled severe rumination & for four years I have been binge drinking. So I took a week off of drinking to stop ruminating & simply but powerfully these ruminations & obsessions went away. I thought rationally, these thoughts had little power over me as I was too busy thinking of other things, and my anxiety was almost reduced. I felt the best I had felt in a really long time & the fittest because I was going to the gym on a daily basis & surrounding myself with positive mental environments. So as someone who has struggled with this mental illness of chronic anxiety & rumination, one of my most simple but powerful life advice is to cut out or lower anxiety provoking substances such as alcohol, for even a week. I was amazed at how detrimental it has been to my mental health & so I am working on eliminating it from my life completely. You do not have to but if you struggle with rumination& obsession do not underestimate the power of drugs, even legal ones, on your wellbeing. I loved your video & it truly inspired me to get better so thank you!
I was the opposite. I finally realized that I WAS in control, rather than my thoughts being in control of me. I get to ignore them. I don’t have to believe or entertain the thoughts. It’s ok for me to distract myself and focus on something else that doesn’t cause me anxiety.
This is a really helpful and insightful video into the psychology of overthinking and OCD. As a man it’s immense to hear a fellow brother talk about his experience with it and give advice on how to not go crazy. My main takeaway was that “It’s your brains way of tricking you and causing you pain - it’s a survival mechanism - and you can’t control your thoughts”.
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When a unwanted thought comes to mind, stop it as soon as you can weight out and say, Although this thought came it:
-Doesn’t mean it’s true
-Doesn’t define who I am
I feel like I cant trust anything anyone says and I need constant validation. I overanalyze every single comment and break it down too much to suit my pre existing thoughts. I think about the same thing for weeks or months and it prevents me from doing anything. I cant eat or sleep or work. All I can do is think about the one singular thing that somehow is consuming my whole life
Same.
U have no idea how grateful I am for the internet right now
I have the same problem as you. I am trying to cure too. We can talk if u wan to
it’s literally so annoying too, it’s like you carnt get out of it… constantly thinking about the same thing every day and trying to stop it but you carnt. I’m on my 6th day of ruminating and it’s so frustrating, i cry and I carnt eat, i don’t wanna go out or drink because I’m scared that I’m not going to stop.! Thank you so much for the talk it made me feel a bit better 💕
I’m in this battle again after about 10 years of being “free” of it.
It takes all my energy to ignore my thoughts. They are like a barrage, one after another after another. I live in this imaginary hell that I created. I’ve had all kinds of therapy and currently been seeing a new therapist for about 15 months.
Back to my energy line of thinking… it takes all my energy to ignore and try to let my thoughts just pass through like random visitors. It’s all day long exhausting conversations in my head. I’m miserable and have very little energy left to give my husband and kids. I’m not present, engaged or connected with my family. It breaks my heart. I fake it around them until I can be alone and mentally crash and just let all the thoughts in and stop trying to fight them and convince myself they’re not real, they’re not a reflections of the real me.
They are so powerful and unrelenting. I’m just so tired. I want to badly for these kinds of techniques to work but they seem to take up as much mental energy as the initial thoughts themselves. I’m searching on RUclips (again) heartbroken and desperate for answers and I don’t know what else… validation? people who relate? some new techniques? I’m so jealous of people who try these techniques and find relief. To me it’s just mentally draining battle either way.
Same here...
I got triggered by an event 4 months ago, and I stuck in my mind 24/7
Trying each and every day to get rid off it... but I'll get through this... and hope you too...
Are you doing any better?
I figured out that this overload of thoughts always happens after a major traumatic experience.I had a suicide in family and it took long time to process,but also opened some questions for me.I needed answers which I couldn't get.Its like my mind couldn't handle reality and than spins back into this scary imaginary world.
Few tips:
If you are religious,praying really helps!
Sleep of 7+ hours is very important.
Intermittent fasting or vegetarian diet helps too ,because of gut-brain relation.
Do not drink alcohol or use psychotics or drugs because that creates "sticky bran".
There is a lot of books out there educate yourself.
And finally stay away from situations which are highly likely to create anxiety for you.
God bless
I can't thank you enough. I am 22 years old and I think this is the first time that I am going through serious rumination for the past three months. I was completely unable to focus on my studies. All these other tips like calling friends and looking for distractions were only short term solutions. I think what you mention in this video is the true solution. When it clicked with me I cried like a baby and I finally feel like I am on the way up. Thanks again man, these videos can be priceless.
Hey man. How are you rn? I am also a student about the same age as you and its really frustrating when you have to focus on your studies but this awful feeling just hangs over your head. How did you deal with the problems and what practices did you find useful? I would love to hear it from a guy that is pretty much in the same situation
@@donpotokon hey man, sucks to hear that. Tbh my rumination I think had a lot to do with a breakup I was going through. Although this video did help, it just needed time. Eventually I just started to accept the situation and no longer ruminated about what I should do or should have done. I rarely ever think about this situation now and have not had other cases of rumination since. I think I was also just having a tough time dealing with covid lockdown after just moving to a new city and doing my studies online. Being inside all day didn’t help. I am not familiar with people that have constant rumination for years on end about almost everything, I think the guy in the video can give you better advice in that case. However, if this is your first time going through this and the rumination is about significant thinks going on your life, it will probably just need time. Rumination is just a desperate attempt to get answers for questions that don’t really have an answer. Some things just have to resolve themselves over time, ar least in my case. It sucks but in the end ‘only’ took a couple of months for me. I think I wrote the comment above at my low point so that explains some of it. Still am somewhat struggling with studies unfortunately since during this period I slept poorly and had a lot of stress trying to finish my bachelors and developed this tension headache which is still around. No longer ruminating but still suffering from this tension headache almost a year later unfortunately. But just like the rumination, I believe it will just need time. The body can take incredibly long to recover from some things. Perhaps you can also ask yourself if there are any external causes like bad things happening in your life. If so, give yourself time and don’t beat yourself up like I did because you will be even worse of. I should have just taken some time of my studies to ground myself and I would have never developed this headache. If you can not determine a cause for your rumination it might be best to contact a therapist. Actually, in both cases it can be good to contact a therapist, there is no shame in that. Just writing this comment already feels like therapy. Talking to family or really good friends that will show understanding is also never a bad thing. Good luck man and don’t hesitate to ask any questions. I am no expert myself since I only went through rumination once but I am always happy to help.
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@@donpotokonI am 20 and am currently going trough the same situation. What’s been working for me so far is exercising everyday, eating well, sunlight for 15 min, vitamins, feeling the support of my loved ones, therapy, mindfulness, and overall just taking it day by day and letting everything be at its time. At the end of the day life is life and you cannot rush feelings and thought processing because your mind and body take time to naturally change and adapt. I watched this video a few weeks ago and now that I have come back to it I realize that it is very much true what the guy in the video is explaining. The moment you accept that you cannot control your thoughts it is the moment you are free, because the only thing that defines who you are is your actions.
@@ag-ow5mt hey man, what would you like to talk about?
I ran across your video early this morning. Thank you so much for this! I ruminate to the point that i get heart palpitations, and crippling anxiety. I needed this. My ocd is through the roof, especially when people do not approve of me or my supervisor treats me unfairly. I get to the point im awake at 2am, my mind going fast miles per hour. This video helps me realize they are just thoughts. Im more aware now what im doing to myself. Thank you!
Oh God bless you. My ruminations also used to give me anxiety and heart palpitations. But then I realized it was partly due to vitamin D deficiency. Now it’s better. Hope you are feeling better.
Noah you have no idea how much stress you just took off of me i remember when I found your old dp video i thought i found a dead youtube channel then I found out youre still active and its helped me so much my therapist has started reccomened you to other people when I told him how much you helped me i cant begin to thank you enough
Matthew 28 "Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.…"
I don't know why but whenever I feel like I'm not the only one having this kind of problems it kinda gives a weird relief not to be offensive though
Yes it does help to know that you are not the only one suffering and there is nothing wrong with you
@@eishamansoor7735 thank you for understanding
Same here.. It has helped me so much.. Cuz im like okay I'm not crazy .. Im not alone.. I'm not secretly a murderer or anything.
Same, channels like this are the reason I’m still going honestly
I really resonated when you said that our brains want us to question things, question who we are. My brain wants to tell me I am a bad person. I can disregard because I know it isn't true. Thank you for articulating that so well.
This video is so crucial to sooo many problems in our mind. It just makes sense, our minds make up so much bs. I think it's the single root cause why I have experienced sooo much anxiety and even short bouts of depression this year. I'm a natural overthinker and I've suffered ao long with this. Still have anxiety from time to time. Recently it got quite strong and I notice how the mind just races. It's hard to distance from the thoughts, but I see the positive effects already :).
Thank you very much for this message, you're helping a lot of people🙏🙏
Awesome you are making. Some of what you said really resonated with me. The mind brings up very irrational fears/thoughts. They might be related to some trauma or an event from the past. But often it’s nonsensical. However, it does create anxiety and panic attacks.
Even just saying that sentence I can’t control my thoughts has made me feel so much better ! Thank you for this video five years later 👏🏻
Good for you 😊
Whenever my mind goes off in an uncontrollable cycle, i say to myself” i am not the body, i am not even the mind” like 30 times in my head w/ each breath and it works. Just a little tip love you all
That's true. You are your soul....if you believe in that .
That in itself is obsessive
thats Isha kriya
Trueee
@@worldhealth7624 indeed we all are pure souls
I have been struggling with this a lot lately. I have been constantly over analyzing my thoughts to the point where I thought I was going crazy. Once a thought pops up I start questioning everything and it ruins my whole day. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for sharing this with us. You always remind me that I am not alone. I respect you so much.❤️
Ugh yeah im struggling with this too. Sometimes i think i get crazy and this Freaks me out really mich. What have you done to get rid of this
Don't worry about it too much it's very common to think your going mad and other things uswell