I must admit, unlike youtube's compression algorithm, you did a great job at simplifying the concept of bitrates on youtube vs perceived quality with the easy to understand graphs and charts. Thank you for your effort!
I'm honestly speechless... You gave incredible presentation, an insane amount of depth, simple and clear explanations through graphs... Subbed. Keep up the great work man!
Superb presentation... you have for sure gained another subscriber, thanks for the extreme efforts you have gone to in order to bring us these results! My kill counts are usually 40-60 minutes long so my files sizes are gonna be HUGE but you have proved to me it is worth it going forward! Stay safe :)
A comment for the algorithm, so more people will see this awesome video. I really appreciate the amount of work you put into the video it's explaining everything without being complicated, that's how informative videos should be ♥
You have no idea how much of an amazing explanation this is. Thank you for such a detailed but simple explanation. I am producing my own (basic, fun) travel videos which are a combination of photos & videos (high bitrate videos from GoPro & comparatively lower bitrate videos from mobile) . I had been shooting 1080p videos but noticed downgrade when hyperlapse videos or heavy movement clips were involved. Rendering 1080p video projects to 1440p for youtube upload did help, but the info you have provided is really going to be helpful longterm. 1080p @ 40MB and 1440p @ 60MB. This is really helpful. For my requirement, I will try shooting 1080p @ 50MB bitrate on both GoPro & mobile. Render that to 1440p @ 50MB bitrate for youtube. Thanks again. Wow, that was great info. Excited to experiment.
I really suffer from this problem for two years,when I upload a video to my channel, for example, for the game PES 2021, at 200 megabytes per second on 1080p60, then I find RUclips destroying the final image of the video and showing pixels around the players and losing details when moving and the image is very bad. thank u For your great effort, you deserve the best
Thanks for the insight. Def subbed to your channel. My render settings in davinci for anyone that needs it: I found that for 1440P in Davincy using: Format=Quicktime Codec=H.264 Res=2560x1440 FPS=60 Quality= Restricted to 80000Kb/s Rest set to default. I get the cleanest recordings roughly 10gb max. (1 hour). Unfortunately i forgot to change the bitrate today and exported 8 video's unrestricted ending with 60GB files.
thanks for the super work you have done on this! however, i think it lacks an important discussion element that is the codec used by RUclips. Normally YT uses avc1 for 1080p and vp09 for higher resolutions (you can find it by clicking the right button on the youtube video and choosing "statistics for nerds"). Sometimes, for bigger channels, RUclips chooses vp09 also for 1080p. Codec vp09 usually delivers higher quality videos with respect to avc1. This fact could change the concluding results.
so this is the reason. allright this comment deserves much more likes. So no matter what ppl should render their videos in WQHD or higher even if they're recording in FULLHD
Very cool video! I liked and subscribed. I just uploaded my first 720p video to RUclips. I was very upset that my project was much lower quality than the original file on my PC. I found out that RUclips gives 1440p videos the crispy vp9 codec. So, I am currently uploading a 2560x1440 version of the file @ 15 mbps + 60 mbps (thanks to watching your video) to RUclips to see if there is any difference.
Then one day you will notice RUclips 1440p encoded video quality is crap compared to their 2160p hehe. But lower res = lower bitrate = lower bandwidth, they do that on purpose. Low bandwidth means a lot to average users. Not for me though, I prefer best possible quality, because I upload to preserve, not for normal daily watching.
thanks for this. I've been rendering my 1080p 60fps videos at 100,000 kbps or 100 mbps, which on longer videos was taking forever to upload, I'll be dropping that down to 45,000 kbps just to be safe.
@@DeLeo_77 nope it wasn't worse. And I got gigabit internet recently so even if I had stayed with 100mbps it would only take a minute or two to upload now. The slowest part now is waiting for RUclips to reencode it and post the different resolutions. That part still takes forever.
Would be nice if RUclips used vp9 for 1080p uploads. With 1080p upscaled to 1440p, the problem would be that people who are expecting actual 1440p quality would be disappointed. But I guess it's still better than 1080p avc.
Very interesting and very "in depth" investigation ! However, now that you've questionned the recommanded bitrates, I am really missing the information for 24/25p :/ It's the first time I am on your channel so I understand that you seem more to be into the gaming/streaming so 60p makes sense, but still most videos online are in 24 or 30p and myself being in europe, I post everything in 25p. But thank you for the great work
Honestly I think 80mbps would be the max to go with for 4k as above that it won't be that much different between it and 100mbps(unless 80mbps isn't enough for certain games). Even then you don't need 80mbps for every game as many are even fine at 50 and 60mbps. Like 2D games for example, using anything above 50mbps for the most part won't be that different from 80-100mbps as it won't be compressed much if at all due to the bitrate being high enough to handle it along with graphical effects not being intensive as 3D games. And that's another thing, graphical effects also affects the video quality. As you can see, RUclips doesn't base quality on fix bitrate but instead they use variable bitrate quality which means if there's less motion or graphical effects are going on then the video quality on certain scenes would be great, it's why it's easier to do 2D games and scenes that aren't as motion heavy(normally cutscenes)while anything that's really fast like many games can result in compression due to their variable video quality not being able to keep up and use as much bitrate. I have recorded and uploaded a gaming vid in native 4k and when I went to download it using 4k Downloader, even though it was uploaded at 80mbps and kept a lot of the quality, the compression was still there in parts as the bitrate for the downloaded vid was around 17mbps. Funny enough I uploaded upscaled 4k vids in like 50mbps and after downloading the video it came around 25mbps. What this means is that depending on the game and what's going graphically in the scenes, it's completely random for what the actual bitrate will be when uploading at any high bitrate. The fact that when you record at a higher bitrate(80) but have a lower bitrate on RUclips(17) and you record at a lower bitrate(50) but have a higher one on RUclips(25) just proves that RUclips relies on what's going on in the video more than just relying on the highest bitrate available. High bitrates at 50mbps and above always helps, but RUclips will determine which bitrate the vid will have due to what's going on in the game. In short, record between 50-80mbps(100 if it's still compressed at 80mbps) and choose which games to use those bitrates as it varies on them and be aware that it's so random for what RUclips decides to pick for the outcome of the bitrate since they use variable bitrate quality that relies on motion, graphical effects and if it's 2D or 3D.
Oh that's a lot of text :) Yes this test was specifically designed for fast paced action games like modern warfare. Also, I deliberately used two different games (one very graphically intensive, the other not so) to show the variability in resulting bitrate. And yes, 2D games would have muuuuuch lower saturation points for sure!
@@TechGuides Yeah I wanted to say that since there's a lot to it and RUclips doesn't make it so easy. It's so random for what it does to bitrate when you upload at high bitrates even and it's variable bitrate quality will only keep what it likes and compress what it can't handle. But it's for the best to upload at a high bitrate regardless since their compression can be awful if it's at a lower bitrate already to begin with. It's recommended to do at least 4k 60fps uploads for gaming vids because anything lower and video quality can suffer more depending on the game and what's going on in the scenes. RUclips honestly needs to allow for higher bitrates for 720p and 1080p because what they have is so low, like under 10mbps low when they compress the vids at resolutions like that, lol. To avoid that I normally do 4k uploads for years, upscaling for most years and even did some native 4k recently and it's been a life saver for those vids.
@@rroum Maybe, but RUclips will scale it down to 20-30 mbps since RUclips technically can't support the full 80+ mbps. I would argue 50mbps would be more than enough for RUclips so it'll scale it down to 20-30mbps which means it'll use at least nearly half or half of 50mbps for the most part.
If I want to record a video with a bit rate of forty megabits per second on my phone, the size of the recorded video will be 320 megabytes per minute, which means that you need a hard drive with the ability to store tens of terabytes of data throughout the year.
This is awesome to see the visual representation on the graphs. I have been fighting the dumb RUclips encoding problem for a year now on my channel. Hate it.
Nice, I was pretty close capturing games at 75mbps at 1440p. RUclips really does give you a lot more bit-rate to work with at 1440p, in fact I would say that going from 1080 to 1440 is the best thing you can do for gaming footage on youtube. Besides that, 75mbps is just a good bit-rate to have your footage at to watch in general. Also, it's useful seeing how the 1440p line goes up more significantly than the 1080p line after your theoretical ideal limit. Will keep this in mind for certain games.
I used to upload at 1440p but then found out about 4k and honestly it's quite better than 1440p for bitrate. 4k is the best balance of bitrate and upload speed on RUclips.
Awesome Video, exactly what I was looking for. I have just had the issue where I uploaded a low bitrate Warzone video to RUclips, the original looked ok for a basic recording. When I watched it back after uploading the Quality was terrible. Now I know the correct Bitrates thank You for the info man much appreciated have a good day dude.
That's an excellent question but unfortunately I have not yet done any tests comparing the visual quality of VBR against CBR so I can't really give you a recommendation on one or another
Brilliant video, thanks! I would just like to add that a "part 2" is due to different types of video might ammount to different optimal bitrates (you just talked about this @ 11:35) such as in static "talking head" podcast-like interviews, screen-shared ppt presentations etc - I kinda missed this, but still, great presentation.
Thank you so much this video is very useful I am not uploading allot of content and seeing that uploading in higher bitrates help is nice to know so when I upload my next music video I can upload it At a very high bitrate
Great Video! It would help a lot if you tell us what custom preset you used to upscale the 1080p to 1440p for exemple in daVinci Resolve since that's what most people tries to do nowadays!😕 edit: would handrake h265 compression invalidate your recommended sttings?
There are lots of videos whose up loaders claim 1080 but quality is more like 460 or at best 720, many I think have just been upscaled to 1080 but that's not the same as true 1080 shot from a 1080 camera.
This is correct! It becomes less of an issues at higher resolutions though, e.g. upscaling 1080p to 4K does work great unless you're watching on a 4K monitor ;)
Thanks for the reply. I've just built my first computer, 12 core AMD Threadripper, 32gb DDR 4 originally for 3D work in unreal engine and Blender but I found a free video editor called Davinchi Resolve and I'm hooked. I'm considering a change in direction into film restoration. Subscribed to your channel. Good work. 👍
Wow that's amazing for your first PC! Yeah I too am hooked on Davinci Resolve, so much you can do but so little time haha ;) Thank you, I really appreciate your support!!
Thank you so much @Ian! I actually also wondered about that for the longest time. Haven't had time to test this though so thanks for the insight @NoTeefy
If I record in 1080 and I want the better encoder for RUclips, when I render the video should I render in the same bit rate that I recorded or upscale to your suggested 1440p bit rate? Also I've started recorded in 50000 bit rate and it doesn't look much better than before when I recorded in like 16000, if I'm not downscaling should I use the Bilinear codec? I really appreciate all your help and videos
Thank you for this, always wondered especially with Sony Vegas what bit rate I should use and hated how sometimes it looked worse coming out than the raw videos did before.
great video, since you made another great video about h.264 and h.265. I'm assuming the bitrates you mentioned in this video are for h.264. So, for h.265 what bitrates would you recommend for every resolution?
Really nice video with great methodology and reasoning. Thank you so much for creating and sharing these! Your videos really helped me understand why I was always so freaked out by the bad quality whenever I saw one of my videos on RUclips for the first time. And hopefully I will be able to avoid that in the future. I'm assuming all of these values apply to 60 FPS. I'm guessing one could go lower for 30 FPS footage? Do you have any information on that?
Yes these test have all been done at 60FPS. Honestly, I didnt try with 30FPS because of the immense amount of work this video has already been. Obviously the "best" bitrate would be somewhat lower, I'd say maybe 10-15mbps less but thats really just a guess
Hi Roman. This is a fantastic video and I really appreciate the effort you've put into this. However, the biggest problem you have here is that of concatenation because you've used an inter-fame codec as your source. I have done many similar tests and using an intra-frame source, uncompressed, to then generate an inter-frame intermediate from, or indeed, uploading an intra-frame intermediate codec, including uncompressed, will give different results. Also. As you pointed out, your capture was only 1440 and as you know, this isn't the way to gauge your 4K results, due to the upscaling from your source. You've then also got the real world differences between the bitrates used for your source inter-frame recording and your delivery (intermediate), which I assume was H.264 due to when you made this video. Using a more efficient codec (H.264, VP9 etc.) for your recording and upload (intermediate) will also give different results, depending on bit rate. None the less, this is an excellent video and your attention to detail is awesome, and appreciated. A massive thumbs up from me and a sub. Cheers, Dave.
I must admit, unlike youtube's compression algorithm, you did a great job at simplifying the concept of bitrates on youtube vs perceived quality with the easy to understand graphs and charts. Thank you for your effort!
Much appreciated, I'm glad this was helpful!
yes
I'm honestly speechless... You gave incredible presentation, an insane amount of depth, simple and clear explanations through graphs... Subbed. Keep up the great work man!
Thank you so much for your kind generosity!! Ill "soon" do an update on this as well :)
Superb presentation... you have for sure gained another subscriber, thanks for the extreme efforts you have gone to in order to bring us these results! My kill counts are usually 40-60 minutes long so my files sizes are gonna be HUGE but you have proved to me it is worth it going forward! Stay safe :)
You’re like the undiscovered version of Gerald Undone. That’s a high praise, good job!!!
THANK YOU!
Awesome work man! Hope this video eventually gets the views it deserves!
Cheers man!
A comment for the algorithm, so more people will see this awesome video.
I really appreciate the amount of work you put into the video it's explaining everything without being complicated, that's how informative videos should be ♥
Appreciate it so much man! Thanks for watching
You have no idea how much of an amazing explanation this is. Thank you for such a detailed but simple explanation.
I am producing my own (basic, fun) travel videos which are a combination of photos & videos (high bitrate videos from GoPro & comparatively lower bitrate videos from mobile) .
I had been shooting 1080p videos but noticed downgrade when hyperlapse videos or heavy movement clips were involved.
Rendering 1080p video projects to 1440p for youtube upload did help, but the info you have provided is really going to be helpful longterm.
1080p @ 40MB and 1440p @ 60MB. This is really helpful.
For my requirement, I will try shooting 1080p @ 50MB bitrate on both GoPro & mobile.
Render that to 1440p @ 50MB bitrate for youtube.
Thanks again. Wow, that was great info.
Excited to experiment.
I really suffer from this problem for two years,when I upload a video to my channel, for example, for the game PES 2021, at 200 megabytes per second on 1080p60, then I find RUclips destroying the final image of the video and showing pixels around the players and losing details when moving and the image is very bad. thank u For your great effort, you deserve the best
Definitely worth a sub. Keep up the amazing effort dude this is amazing quality stuff.
Appreciate it!
This is the best video on RUclips, i swear the analysis is so detailed. I keep coming back to this video!
Thats exactly what I wanted to do, but you saved me the time. Thanks a lot! Now we can upload better quality stuff easier
Glad you liked it. I'm actually working on an update for native 4K video material :)
You should have more subs bro
Thank you so much for all the support man!
@Deacon Mathias wow it’s only been 10000 times I’ve seen this spam comment
InstaBlaster.
Really good video! Already knew it was higher than what YT recommended, but all the info you showed helped to know more about it, thank you!
The video i was looking for, and you made it make so much more sense. Subbed.
Thanks for the sub! Really appreciate it
Thanks for the video, very thorough and useful.
This video MUST be seen by every content creator! You've done the perfect video! Thank you 🤜🤛 and great job 👏💪
Really appreciate it!
Thanks for the insight.
Def subbed to your channel.
My render settings in davinci for anyone that needs it:
I found that for 1440P in Davincy using:
Format=Quicktime
Codec=H.264
Res=2560x1440
FPS=60
Quality= Restricted to 80000Kb/s
Rest set to default.
I get the cleanest recordings roughly 10gb max. (1 hour).
Unfortunately i forgot to change the bitrate today and exported 8 video's unrestricted ending with 60GB files.
Appreciate your support man!!
this is a killer video cant believe only 46k views. the amount of work you put is incredible. keep up
Really appreciate it! Yes this was truely an insane amount of work haha
20,000,000 bps
Seems most reasonable
Thanks for making this video
thanks for the super work you have done on this! however, i think it lacks an important discussion element that is the codec used by RUclips.
Normally YT uses avc1 for 1080p and vp09 for higher resolutions (you can find it by clicking the right button on the youtube video and choosing "statistics for nerds").
Sometimes, for bigger channels, RUclips chooses vp09 also for 1080p. Codec vp09 usually delivers higher quality videos with respect to avc1.
This fact could change the concluding results.
Yes, except that there is no channel that I know of that gets VP9 on 1080p videos at the moment. I think YT disabled VP9 below 1440p alltogether
so this is the reason. allright this comment deserves much more likes. So no matter what ppl should render their videos in WQHD or higher even if they're recording in FULLHD
@@WendyGameing Thats what I learnt recently. But will work on better bitrate setting as well.
Very cool video! I liked and subscribed. I just uploaded my first 720p video to RUclips. I was very upset that my project was much lower quality than the original file on my PC. I found out that RUclips gives 1440p videos the crispy vp9 codec. So, I am currently uploading a 2560x1440 version of the file @ 15 mbps + 60 mbps (thanks to watching your video) to RUclips to see if there is any difference.
Then one day you will notice RUclips 1440p encoded video quality is crap compared to their 2160p hehe. But lower res = lower bitrate = lower bandwidth, they do that on purpose. Low bandwidth means a lot to average users. Not for me though, I prefer best possible quality, because I upload to preserve, not for normal daily watching.
Thank you so much! Very well simplified and visualized!
Glad you liked it! I'm actually working on an updated version for 4K video so if you're interested in that then make sure to leave a cheeky sub 👍
Fantastic analysis and presentation. Than you for this!
Thanks for watching :)
Does upscaling a 1080p video to 4K actually improve its “1080p” quality on RUclips? I don’t mean rendering a 1080p in 4k, but actually upscaling it.
No
thanks for this. I've been rendering my 1080p 60fps videos at 100,000 kbps or 100 mbps, which on longer videos was taking forever to upload, I'll be dropping that down to 45,000 kbps just to be safe.
so did you drop to 45000 kbps? was the quality on youtube worst?
@@DeLeo_77 nope it wasn't worse. And I got gigabit internet recently so even if I had stayed with 100mbps it would only take a minute or two to upload now. The slowest part now is waiting for RUclips to reencode it and post the different resolutions. That part still takes forever.
this dude is on another level! this is exactly what im looking for
Brilliant, love to hear that!
Would be nice if RUclips used vp9 for 1080p uploads. With 1080p upscaled to 1440p, the problem would be that people who are expecting actual 1440p quality would be disappointed. But I guess it's still better than 1080p avc.
Massive job, need more creators like you here!
Thanks for appreciating :)
OMG the effort !!! Amazing stuff dude !!
Thanks a ton!
Thank you for making this ! It means a lot.
Cheers! I updated this video: ruclips.net/video/LT7ymi5Ajgo/видео.html
This is really interesting! Great work
Thanks for watching!
You deserve more subs for your hard work ❤️ keep going 👍
You you so much! Will do :)
wow man... You should have more subscribers because of your knowledge and research. thanks for this making videos
Thanks man, appreciate it!
Very interesting and very "in depth" investigation !
However, now that you've questionned the recommanded bitrates, I am really missing the information for 24/25p :/
It's the first time I am on your channel so I understand that you seem more to be into the gaming/streaming so 60p makes sense, but still most videos online are in 24 or 30p and myself being in europe, I post everything in 25p.
But thank you for the great work
This was very helpful. As others have said, you deserve more subs. You got mine!
Thank you so much for your support, much appreciated :)
Honestly I think 80mbps would be the max to go with for 4k as above that it won't be that much different between it and 100mbps(unless 80mbps isn't enough for certain games). Even then you don't need 80mbps for every game as many are even fine at 50 and 60mbps. Like 2D games for example, using anything above 50mbps for the most part won't be that different from 80-100mbps as it won't be compressed much if at all due to the bitrate being high enough to handle it along with graphical effects not being intensive as 3D games.
And that's another thing, graphical effects also affects the video quality. As you can see, RUclips doesn't base quality on fix bitrate but instead they use variable bitrate quality which means if there's less motion or graphical effects are going on then the video quality on certain scenes would be great, it's why it's easier to do 2D games and scenes that aren't as motion heavy(normally cutscenes)while anything that's really fast like many games can result in compression due to their variable video quality not being able to keep up and use as much bitrate.
I have recorded and uploaded a gaming vid in native 4k and when I went to download it using 4k Downloader, even though it was uploaded at 80mbps and kept a lot of the quality, the compression was still there in parts as the bitrate for the downloaded vid was around 17mbps. Funny enough I uploaded upscaled 4k vids in like 50mbps and after downloading the video it came around 25mbps.
What this means is that depending on the game and what's going graphically in the scenes, it's completely random for what the actual bitrate will be when uploading at any high bitrate. The fact that when you record at a higher bitrate(80) but have a lower bitrate on RUclips(17) and you record at a lower bitrate(50) but have a higher one on RUclips(25) just proves that RUclips relies on what's going on in the video more than just relying on the highest bitrate available. High bitrates at 50mbps and above always helps, but RUclips will determine which bitrate the vid will have due to what's going on in the game.
In short, record between 50-80mbps(100 if it's still compressed at 80mbps) and choose which games to use those bitrates as it varies on them and be aware that it's so random for what RUclips decides to pick for the outcome of the bitrate since they use variable bitrate quality that relies on motion, graphical effects and if it's 2D or 3D.
Oh that's a lot of text :) Yes this test was specifically designed for fast paced action games like modern warfare. Also, I deliberately used two different games (one very graphically intensive, the other not so) to show the variability in resulting bitrate. And yes, 2D games would have muuuuuch lower saturation points for sure!
@@TechGuides Yeah I wanted to say that since there's a lot to it and RUclips doesn't make it so easy. It's so random for what it does to bitrate when you upload at high bitrates even and it's variable bitrate quality will only keep what it likes and compress what it can't handle. But it's for the best to upload at a high bitrate regardless since their compression can be awful if it's at a lower bitrate already to begin with.
It's recommended to do at least 4k 60fps uploads for gaming vids because anything lower and video quality can suffer more depending on the game and what's going on in the scenes. RUclips honestly needs to allow for higher bitrates for 720p and 1080p because what they have is so low, like under 10mbps low when they compress the vids at resolutions like that, lol. To avoid that I normally do 4k uploads for years, upscaling for most years and even did some native 4k recently and it's been a life saver for those vids.
@@masterlee1988 so basically i should just render at 4k 60fps with a bitrate of 80 to 100mbps just to be safe right?
@@rroum Maybe, but RUclips will scale it down to 20-30 mbps since RUclips technically can't support the full 80+ mbps. I would argue 50mbps would be more than enough for RUclips so it'll scale it down to 20-30mbps which means it'll use at least nearly half or half of 50mbps for the most part.
Not even a superhero can give the information in this video, thank you very much
this is the best,
that graph is really easy to understand :3
Thank you!!
Cheers
Thank you so much
If I want to record a video with a bit rate of forty megabits per second on my phone, the size of the recorded video will be 320 megabytes per minute, which means that you need a hard drive with the ability to store tens of terabytes of data throughout the year.
This is awesome to see the visual representation on the graphs. I have been fighting the dumb RUclips encoding problem for a year now on my channel. Hate it.
Happy to help!
This video has so much usefull infomation! Thank you for doing this!
The exact video I was looking for to explain. Did it perfectly. Gained a subscriber 💯
Very much appreciated!! I'm even working on on update for this, so stay tuned :)
Good tests, nicely done man.
Thank you! Cheers!
this video is an endgame search for optimal export. great job. tq so much
Thanks for watching!
Amazing, exactly what I was looking for 🙏🏼
Amazing work bro, good job and keep up the good work
I’ve just honestly never heard someone pronounce CS GO as
Joe
More like "gee-oh" but I know that colloquially "GO" is the way to pronounce it
Exactly what i was looking for, thank you!
Great work, very useful data. You've just earned another subscriber 👌
Nice, I was pretty close capturing games at 75mbps at 1440p. RUclips really does give you a lot more bit-rate to work with at 1440p, in fact I would say that going from 1080 to 1440 is the best thing you can do for gaming footage on youtube. Besides that, 75mbps is just a good bit-rate to have your footage at to watch in general. Also, it's useful seeing how the 1440p line goes up more significantly than the 1080p line after your theoretical ideal limit. Will keep this in mind for certain games.
I used to upload at 1440p but then found out about 4k and honestly it's quite better than 1440p for bitrate. 4k is the best balance of bitrate and upload speed on RUclips.
I couldn't have found a more scientific and informative video
Appreciate it!
Thank you for putting in the time to make this video! It's just what i was looking for and you explained everything perfectly. ☺
Perfect!
Appreciated what you did there, brother 😊
Appreciate it!!
bro u spend so much time for this, thank you
Yes indeed haha! Thanks for appreciating :)
Awesome Video, exactly what I was looking for. I have just had the issue where I uploaded a low bitrate Warzone video to RUclips, the original looked ok for a basic recording. When I watched it back after uploading the Quality was terrible. Now I know the correct Bitrates thank You for the info man much appreciated have a good day dude.
should I record and export in VBR or CBR bitrate?
That's an excellent question but unfortunately I have not yet done any tests comparing the visual quality of VBR against CBR so I can't really give you a recommendation on one or another
Brilliant video, thanks! I would just like to add that a "part 2" is due to different types of video might ammount to different optimal bitrates (you just talked about this @ 11:35) such as in static "talking head" podcast-like interviews, screen-shared ppt presentations etc - I kinda missed this, but still, great presentation.
Thank you so much this video is very useful I am not uploading allot of content and seeing that uploading in higher bitrates help is nice to know so when I upload my next music video I can upload it At a very high bitrate
Your content is so valuable! Keep it up! Greetings from France.
Glad you enjoy it!
Great Video! It would help a lot if you tell us what custom preset you used to upscale the 1080p to 1440p for exemple in daVinci Resolve since that's what most people tries to do nowadays!😕
edit: would handrake h265 compression invalidate your recommended sttings?
Super helpful, thank you! I only realized recently this is something I should learn more about.
Glad this was helpful!
There are lots of videos whose up loaders claim 1080 but quality is more like 460 or at best 720, many I think have just been upscaled to 1080 but that's not the same as true 1080 shot from a 1080 camera.
This is correct! It becomes less of an issues at higher resolutions though, e.g. upscaling 1080p to 4K does work great unless you're watching on a 4K monitor ;)
Thanks for the reply. I've just built my first computer, 12 core AMD Threadripper, 32gb DDR 4 originally for 3D work in unreal engine and Blender but I found a free video editor called Davinchi Resolve and I'm hooked. I'm considering a change in direction into film restoration. Subscribed to your channel. Good work. 👍
Wow that's amazing for your first PC! Yeah I too am hooked on Davinci Resolve, so much you can do but so little time haha ;) Thank you, I really appreciate your support!!
Thank you..
I use 50 Mbps for streaming!
Thank you for the work you put into this test!
Thank you!
What Rate Control should I use in OBS CBR, CQP, or VBR? Also very nice video. Thanks for the information. :)
@@NoTeefy Thanks for the info. What CQ level is best for 1080p recording?
@@NoTeefy Cool, thanks.
Thank you so much @Ian! I actually also wondered about that for the longest time. Haven't had time to test this though so thanks for the insight @NoTeefy
This is still one of the best videos on this.
Your too long didn't watch segment was so straightforward and informative that I decided to watch the whole thing and subscribe. good fucking job!
Awesome, thank you for your support!
Great job !!
Thanks for watching fellow Swiss RUclipsr ;)
This is very informative, exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for doing this.
Going to stream warzone at 60mbps CBR bitrate, wish me luck bois lol
This is for rendering not streaming but have fun ;)
Nooooo your pc is going to explode if you do that..
ur ISP is boutta ban u lmaoo
your pc finna become a volcano within seconds
@@kduck789 it worked fine, RUclips couldn’t handle the bitrate I think. I am at 12k now
Very informative knowledge 👍
Very useful. Thank you!
Glad to hear that!
@@TechGuides I increased the bitrate from 50000 to 100000 now. It looks much better.
Have a comment for the algorithm man! This was such a great video, and you nailed everything we needed to know!
Awesome, thank you!
Fantastic help, this is huge
Thanks, working on updating this soon :)
This is good stuff, thanks!
That's smart and extremely useful information, thank you very much ;)
I freaking love youuu HAHAHA, thanks thanks, I've always suspected that Youtbe purposefully mislead with it's "reccommended" bit rate. tHANKS!
Cheers man!
Thanks for the info. I really appreciate it.
Glad it was helpful!
This is awesome bro. Will definitely upscale my vids to 4K 80mbps bitrate now.
Its definitely worth it! Cheers
Masha Allah Amazing Explanation !!! No Doubt You Are A Hard Working RUclipsr
Did you render all your test footage with H.264 or H.265 codec?
h.264
Amazing video mate
Glad you liked it!
Awesome explanation, thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
WoW Bro Nice Work, Thanks So Much
Now this is what I call a quality video!
Thank you :)
Thanks for all your hard work bud....very informative
My pleasure!!
THANKS
excellent work. this is very helpful
you saved our precious time.
i was searching this kind of video from a long time.
thank you ♥️
Awesome, thanks for watching!
What you did is really a unbelievable thing!
you are genius
I subscribed your channel
Thanks for your support!
If I record in 1080 and I want the better encoder for RUclips, when I render the video should I render in the same bit rate that I recorded or upscale to your suggested 1440p bit rate? Also I've started recorded in 50000 bit rate and it doesn't look much better than before when I recorded in like 16000, if I'm not downscaling should I use the Bilinear codec? I really appreciate all your help and videos
Thank you for this, always wondered especially with Sony Vegas what bit rate I should use and hated how sometimes it looked worse coming out than the raw videos did before.
Glad you liked it!
Amazing work you did here, thanks!
Glad you liked it!
great video, since you made another great video about h.264 and h.265. I'm assuming the bitrates you mentioned in this video are for h.264. So, for h.265 what bitrates would you recommend for every resolution?
that is a fantastic video bro! good job. keep it up.
Thanks man!
Really nice video with great methodology and reasoning. Thank you so much for creating and sharing these! Your videos really helped me understand why I was always so freaked out by the bad quality whenever I saw one of my videos on RUclips for the first time. And hopefully I will be able to avoid that in the future.
I'm assuming all of these values apply to 60 FPS. I'm guessing one could go lower for 30 FPS footage? Do you have any information on that?
Yes these test have all been done at 60FPS. Honestly, I didnt try with 30FPS because of the immense amount of work this video has already been. Obviously the "best" bitrate would be somewhat lower, I'd say maybe 10-15mbps less but thats really just a guess
@@TechGuides Alright. Thank you! I guess higher Bitrate never hurts like you said, if one has the patience
Thankyou for your work sir 👊🏻
Thanks for watching!
Really detailed and helpful video ! I thank you for all the effort and times you dedicated to make this video 🙂👍 learned a lot .
Thanks a lot for appreciating!! This one was a monster project haha
Hi Roman. This is a fantastic video and I really appreciate the effort you've put into this. However, the biggest problem you have here is that of concatenation because you've used an inter-fame codec as your source. I have done many similar tests and using an intra-frame source, uncompressed, to then generate an inter-frame intermediate from, or indeed, uploading an intra-frame intermediate codec, including uncompressed, will give different results. Also. As you pointed out, your capture was only 1440 and as you know, this isn't the way to gauge your 4K results, due to the upscaling from your source. You've then also got the real world differences between the bitrates used for your source inter-frame recording and your delivery (intermediate), which I assume was H.264 due to when you made this video. Using a more efficient codec (H.264, VP9 etc.) for your recording and upload (intermediate) will also give different results, depending on bit rate. None the less, this is an excellent video and your attention to detail is awesome, and appreciated. A massive thumbs up from me and a sub. Cheers, Dave.
Great video. I found that using more than 75Mps for 4K, youtube reduced my vidz from 4k60 to 4k50.