LOL In other words if someone is a noob (which many are to vintage). Just stay away from 5513/5512/14060 Submariners. Many 5513/5512 Subs in the market are over polished and VERY over priced over $12k for a shitty example with service dials and over polished that the spring bars stick out of the lug holes. The days of getting a decent vintage 5513/5512 for under $5K are long gone, and most good examples are in the hands of collectors. If you want a good vintage 5513 in honest condition. You will pay over $15k for sure. I mean does anyone really want to pay that much for an old watch? You can find a better vintage Sub Date pre-ceramic for a decent price. That's a noobs best bet, better built watches. Pre-ceramic Sub Dates came with sapphire crystals solid end links and COSC. It's difficult to see the condition online for some of these listings. Even the 14060's many have service dials and or service bezels. I say buy new or get a 43mm SeaDweller for $10k - $12K new/used on the grey market.
True if someone is a novice at this, better stay away from vintage Rolex, it's a landmine if one doesn't know what they're looking for. I think the neo-vintage 14060(M)/16610 is the perfect balance between classical Sub proportions and feel but with some modern features, and also still easy to find these models with the box and papers.
LOL In other words if someone is a noob (which many are to vintage). Just stay away from 5513/5512/14060 Submariners. Many 5513/5512 Subs in the market are over polished and VERY over priced over $12k for a shitty example with service dials and over polished that the spring bars stick out of the lug holes. The days of getting a decent vintage 5513/5512 for under $5K are long gone, and most good examples are in the hands of collectors. If you want a good vintage 5513 in honest condition. You will pay over $15k for sure. I mean does anyone really want to pay that much for an old watch? You can find a better vintage Sub Date pre-ceramic for a decent price. That's a noobs best bet, better built watches. Pre-ceramic Sub Dates came with sapphire crystals solid end links and COSC. It's difficult to see the condition online for some of these listings. Even the 14060's many have service dials and or service bezels. I say buy new or get a 43mm SeaDweller for $10k - $12K new/used on the grey market.
True if someone is a novice at this, better stay away from vintage Rolex, it's a landmine if one doesn't know what they're looking for. I think the neo-vintage 14060(M)/16610 is the perfect balance between classical Sub proportions and feel but with some modern features, and also still easy to find these models with the box and papers.
In summary, buy the least gay watch.
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