DIY Electric Bicycle Conversion - TSDZ2 installation mid-drive motor kit
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Learn how to install the Tongsheng TSDZ2 mid-drive motor and a little about the ebike Opensource Firmware (OSF).
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Love how detailed and real this was. I'm also looking to fit this on my road. That info about the battery mount and cables under the bottom bracket was super useful because mine has exposed cables under the bike.
I have no other mode than being real. :) I am glad it could help!
Thank you for this real life video, I personally like the fact that you show the mistakes you’ve made and your findings regarding the problems you have faced, I only own one bike and this will be my first motor installation, so watching this has made me aware of what to avoid and what to do without an installation guide also. Ps I have watched a few TSDZ2 installation videos and yours is the best.
Thank you for the nice comment. I wish you better luck than me and glad I can help! It has been a fun project for sure.
At last someone who really does things! and not someone who gets things done by someone with all the proper tools and then reassembles it after oiling greasing etc to make it easy for them to photograph for their youtube video. Getting the crank apart on a bike that is 10 or 15 years old, and has been in the shed for a couple of years decomposing, is a challenge that is not easy to overcome, and is really annoying when someone says undo the crank and without any effort they undo it, drives me crazy, at that point I start to doubt that they actually know what they are doing. So well done for showing that it is a real challenge sometimes. Now to watch the rest of the video lol.
Clear and thorough. Thanks
Btw, in you try this on a road bicycle, I had a very difficult time getting a double chainring set up to work. I was trying for a compact crank 34/50 so i can use it as a regular road bicycle also...so hard to find the right parts to do this and nothing seemed to work. Plus due to the decrease in chain tension and smaller chainring, the chain kept jumping off due to the bad chain angle on the 34T...back to the drawing board! ...i really thought I had it figured out, except for that. sigh.
Thanks for the video, my bike is currently half built. Great to see someone else work through the same problems I am having. My main problem was my motor was a very tight fit, so I took it back off to find a lot of welding splatter inside my bottom bracket. So I cleaned it out and the motor now goes in easily, but it also now wobbles around in the bottom bracket. ( I only took the lumps of welding splatter out I did NOT make it any bigger ) Ok when the nuts are all done up that will stop it, but how long for? I have heard a number of people say that their motor comes loose when riding so much so they will always take tools with them to fix it when they are out. So with that in mind I have now fitted a thin sheet of aluminium around the motor so its a better fit in the bottom bracket. ( I cut up a fizzy drinks can for the sheet metal. it was easy to get and it's very thin)
Same problem, thanks for the advice. By the way, did it help?
@@irinaandpaul873 yes. I removed all the bits with a sander, then used the metal from cola drink can with a small amount of grease to stop any rust or corrosion later.
@@computertechnician4896 in the middle of the carriage, the space is larger in diameter, and where the thread is, there is a gap of no more than 2 tenths of a millimeter. Where exactly is the cola drink plate located?
@@irinaandpaul873 Once I cleaned out the bottom bracket I found that when I installed the motor it was loose. So I then put the sheet aluminium sheet in the bottom bracket to fill the space. I then adjusted the length of the sheet ( number of layers ) until the motor would only just slide in and out. This was not easy as every time I put the motor in it pushed the sheet aluminium sheet back out the other side of the bottom bracket. I then found if I put only 50% of the sheet in the frame, I could then use it as a guide as I pushed the motor in. Sorry a bit hard to explain, hope you understand.
I have the Tongshen with the 48 volt 17ah battery on my mountain bike as a pedal assist it goes great but I want to add throttle!
You don't need the brake sensors with the TSDZ2, just more cable clutter.
The motor will work without the speed sensor fitted.
True! On the brake sensors, I wanted to try out all the bells and whistles. :) On the speed sensor...what do you mean fitted?
@@ShermanSitter installed
@@colincampbell4261 I see, thank you for the clarification. To be honest, since I have so many normal road bicycles, I wanted to really take advantage of, and experiment with the electric parts of this...hence some of the "unnecessary" add ons. With that said, I am glad you commented this to help some future viewers know the parameters and options of the devices!
I just ordered mine but couldnt add note for brake sensor instead of lever. Seeing this post was a relief. Thanx
Thanks for this! I also really like how you show your mistakes and your general thoughts as you go. Have you rode it when it's raining?
Hello and thank you for the nice words. I did try to water proof it, but I have not taken it in the rain yet. In theory it should be ok.
Cool
I have received the exact same battery model than you. (with a BBS01 kit)
I have said the exact same sentence at 8:50 when I discovered where the mounting holes where located.
So same solution as you did with an additionnal rilsan collar in the bottom hole of the battery support... but I'm not very keen about the overall solidness and battery position.
I still not properly resolved and looking for install 2 other mounting holes on the frame tube using M5 rivets.
Haha! Thank you for sharing that timestamp. We laugh because it is true. :) For me, I think part of it was I didn't know what I was doing. I am a 'regular' bicycle person, so all the electric bike stuff was a bit foreign to me.
Tip I would never run that Small of Watt motor setup .. I use a 750 Watt on my TerraTrike Rover mid-drive...With a 58 volt battery 20 amp hour. Good for about 40 miles ..
Yes, this motor is not as strong, but I do like it because of how similar it feels to just riding a bicycle. I think if I went for something more powerful, I'd go for the Bafang. What motor is your favorite?
If we want to stay within the legal requirements and not have to worry about every police car you see, in the UK it has to be a 250 watt motor, yes we know its not powerful enough but we have to work with what we have. I have both the Tongsheng and the Bafang, and I find the Tongsheng hard work, especially after a long days ride and my home is at the top of a bloody great hill, If I was fit and young and my pelvis wasn't held together with titanium plates, I would love it, but in that case I wouldn't need a motor at all would I? With the Bafang I can adjust EXACTLY how much assistance the motor gives and how much my input is E.G. on number 1 its very little motor and a lot of me. But on number 5 its a lot of motor and very little of me, so on that last hill I bump it up to 5 and imagine i'm Steve Austin(the Bionic man not the wrestler) and power up that hill, I can't do that with the Tongsheng. The Bafang is also a far more developed system, with the right lead you can adjust every little detail and tune it(hack it) exactly to your preferences, You don't have anywhere as many options with the Tongsheng. P.S. I don't fit the throttle because if I wanted an electric motor bike I would buy one.
My bike has the same motor and also has no suspension. I feel for me not having suspension was a mistake, the bike is now very heavy and there are too many pot holes in the roads.
I definitely agree with the weight factor. Since I put it on a chromoly road bicycle I don't feel I need the suspension though. Perhaps I'll change my mind as I ride it more. honestly, I still choose my non ebikes over this one in most cases, but it is a fun diversion sometimes. :)
Ciao devo scegliere cosa montare su una MTB ..sarei orientato a l tong ...per il rilevatore di coppia...
Ma davvero è più fiacco come dici su qualche video!?GRAZIE
CIAO! Il mio italiano non e buono. Mi ha chiesto di il "mount"? Sfortunatamente, non lo so per i MTB. In fatti, ho comprato questa bicicleta solomente per questa cosa, e allora, era perfetto! :) Devi controllare per il taglio della "bottom bracket". Non lo so, se ci sono addattori per taglie italiane. Questa taglia e per biciclete americane o giapponese. Non lo so se sono lo stesso.
Hi, great video, did you manage to find a "derailleur extender" and use it as a two by? I am looking to do the same, but could find one.
I did find one. I think I probably could have made it work, but for some reason I was not able to get a good shift between the 2 chainrings, so I returned it. I couldn't find the exact one I found initially, but this looks like a knock off version: www.google.com/shopping/product/10494331342814081104?q=derailleur+extender+front&prds=epd:9522389106446292511,prmr:3,eto:9522389106446292511_1,rto:1,tpim:CJuNjN3lxYCANBCYr5391t_imO8BGPDliBMiA1VTRCigxsWNBjCZ5awD&
@@ShermanSitter I am still waiting for my tsdz2, so I find it impossible to know, what adapter I will need, as I have no idea how I can mount the 2 chainrings and where exactly they will be. I guess Ill have to wait for now :/ Thank you for the link tho
@@viktorspett8819 Yes, it is a challenge for sure. One note, the adapter depends on the bicycle frame and not as much on the motor. You can look and see what kind of situation there is that is holding on your derailleur. Is it a braze on, clamp on, etc? Either way, there are not many great options, but that is more the determining factor than the motor.
@@ShermanSitter There are different offset to choose from, thats why I have to wait, no?
@@viktorspett8819 Possibly, but the motor puts it so far out, I basically got the furthest extender I could find and it still was barely long enough and didn't quite work. I have seen videos of successful conversions with a double chainring, but alas, I failed. Let me know if you figure it out! There probably was a way, but honestly, I only use the eBike for when I am injured or sick or something and I have not noticed much inconvenience with the single chainring. For me, it was more for the adventure to try to get the double.
You say you hate wiping out and you hate cars. So now you make your bike go faster so now when you wipe out it'll really hurt
Haha! Interesting analysis! There is some key components missing based on your assumptions. 1. I don't use it to go faster, 2. I was struck by a car and the purpose of this is to use it while I rehabilitate, 3. This incident only increased my disdain for cars! :)
@@ShermanSitter honestly, it's not the cars I'd have a problem with. It's the drivers. Lotta folks that drive around here also use bicycles and they STILL plow into stuff, lol.
@@DFX2KX ...excellent point. I agree, it is almost always the human inside the cars (or anywhere really) that cause the issues. I almost got killed today by someone flying out of a driveway. another car honked like crazy because they saw what almost happened...but I doubt that driver learned anything. :/
@@ShermanSitter probably not, no, sadly.
OMG, painful to watch.
Hi John, I am open to feedback. If you can be more specific, that would be helpful. Was it too slow moving? Did you not like certain parts more than others? Were there certain aspects or parts you liked about it?