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Using brains for computing power was actually the original idea behind Matrix, they supposedly changed it because they were worried the audiences of the time wouldn't get the concept.
@@Crazylom : it makes me feel old -- I was an adult at a time when tight links between humans and machines was still weird. It was most of a decade before the iPhone came out and we all got glued to our screens full time.
Win the game -> become a fallen Empire -> continue playing as a new empire -> defeat previous Empire and go down the same path -> win the game -> repeat
They should’ve leave not a “control group” stay behind, but a single immortal scientist with a science ship, which looks like a blue police box and can travel in space and time boundlessly
@@letsplaysvonaja1714 just confirms that someone (fallen empire or a precursor) may have done it before. Not that it is the origin of ALL fallen empires.
We know the lore behind 4 fallen empires by lore I mean the actual story, 2 were made fallen due to the war in heaven, 1 due to the crisis destroying their mainframe the machine one and one due to this
I don’t think all fallen empires ascended this way. Maybe the materialists did because only fanatic materialists would be bold (or some would say foolish) enough to dare to do such a thing. It’s very obvious however that there was once several great calamities or cataclysms that afflicted the galaxy: be it the War in Heaven or the Unbidden visiting to consume the galaxy. Whatever the case, that is what caused most fallen empires to fall into decline, decadence, and becoming increasingly dismissive of the new empires that rise up and build their own new galactic order. The machine fallen empire in particular were especially affected brutally. They seemed to have been built by a past galactic community in a previous time where the galaxy was connected to protect all sentient life against the Contingency. But the Unbidden visiting to consume the galaxy somehow broke them. Their central processing ringworld was utterly destroyed, leaving them reeling and never able to recover. They still struggle with programming errors and will act out strangely; demanding other empires to hand over their pops or mass vaccinate them against some sort of disease that no longer exists and with vaccines that are biologically incompatible. Refusing to do so will make them deem you as “compromised” and therefore must be eliminated. All fallen empires have fallen into some sort of dismissive and self serving mentality, but it seems that the spiritualist empire has their stuff together the best. Their pops still farm and work the factories and still patrol the cities and they have never let automation take over their menial jobs because they believe that AI poses a threat to their spiritual way of life. They are also all psionic and communicate with each other solely through telepathy, perhaps even foregoing verbal communication altogether and only speaking verbally on the rare occasions they interact with outsiders.
"Our ancestors once rearranged the stars in the sky to their own liking, but we are wiser now." A common saying in Warhammer 40K's Imperium that suddenly has a LOT of context. Very interesting stuff.
specfially thats refrencing human technology at the height of there power int he golden age of technology where humans had "sun eaters" basically giant planet sized worm shaped mining machines that could also mine into stars and explode them
i like that they seem to imply theres still moral choices as the "bad guy" as they imagine diffrent ending text depending on your choices considering the rest of the galaxy so "bad" "neutral" "good" is likely the possible results. good would be as this comment describes as if the biggest player in the game just desynced and everything they had vanished while undoing any previous changes they made to back to start conditions.
Wouldn't you do that? I mean... Hell, you are going to the universe, where you can make anything happen. You can create a universe of WH40k, you can create a universe inhabited by furries or the universe that lives by the rules of your favorite anime. And then - download yourself in it with all the abilities you desire, so after death - your personality will return to the original mind, with all of the experience you have experienced. First person... I mean... Remember Steve from Spore. I bet he understands.
This player crisis could work really well for clone armies as their clone vats produce pops faster depending on how few pops are around. Also Barbaric Despoilers or Nihilistics acquisition empires will also work well as they can just gather more chips for the fire with a raid.
Clone armies probably could get really op Forget about advancing the crisis, just keep feeding your pops to the lathe and reap enormous rewards Nemesis crisis is also fairly strong without getting final level, arguably stronger
If the chips are worker jobs, nerve staple some pops, enslave them, then set them to breed on a thrall world. Might go good with Syncretic Evolution orgin too.
@@sneedmcsneed2762 yeah, this Synaptic Lathe seems like a massive Tech Habitat, if you allow Robots to have rights and let them have ruler jobs, then you can move all your vats to the Lathe and gain about +150 pop assembly until you reach 33 pops (it's been awhile since I last played Clone Armies).
@@johnthecrazedsskull81the dev replies under the dev diary already mentioned that you can't put ancient clone vats on it, the only buildings allowed are the specific ones that were shown
I love EVERYTHING about this. Next, I need Pacifist crisis where virals, system storms, and forced devolution are pushed on the entirety of the galaxy. And finally, something that pushes into an "Ultra Leviathan" where the society has hoisted/controlled a massive singular entity that eats planets and grows to consume systems, the system, and eventually the universe. One that I would also love is MIB-style, the miniaturization of a galaxy.
This is giving me a fun playthrough idea: Benevolent Cosmogenesis: Ethics: Xenophile, Egalitarian, Materialist Government Type: Democratic Origin: Prosperous Unification (For RP reasons weirdly enough) Civics: Beacon of Liberty & Idealistic Foundation, Spec into Meritocracy later Species Traits Intelligent, Docile, Decadent, Fleeting Description: After a few minor conflicts, the [species name] people were able to set aside their differences to come together for the greater prosperity of them all. They now seek the stars to find new species they can bring into the fold for a glorious common future. The goal of the run: Before achieving cosmogenesis, bring every other non-FE empire into the fold so that you can bring them with you into this new universe, allowing them to walk hand in hand with you as you eliminate all suffering together.
This is sick; my Ides was oddly the complete opposite with selfishness and force complacency on the rest of the galaxy as a materialist, xenophobic, Pacifists as a Inward Perfection Celestial empire with Aristocracy(or technocracy) and Agrarian idol to then bring forth a haven in which a paranoid hierarchy can hide and reap the benefits of a feudal order that would remain separate and safe from revolution(the idea being the realm was unified only after a revolution and a nuclear exchange nearly wiped the order off the face of the planet they remained on, they managed to suppress it and create a habitat to come up with plans[this is through toxic god origin-just without emphasis on] to create a perfected and permanent order dedicated to furthering their agenda and wealth at the expense of reality) The idea also being that the knights were created as a peacekeeping force to suppress all people who would oppose the feudal order throughout the galaxy, only to learn after subjugating the galaxy they would just make one of their own creation. For extra challenge have the planet occupied by a decadent, unruly, repugnant, and slow breeding population while moving leadership to the habitat and enforcing martial law on all future worlds. It’s a challenging idea but through a role play perspective this Crisis is amazing.
Mine initial reaction was to create a materialist inward perfection with toxic gods and role play a an agricultural idol withtechnocracy or noble elite which, after defeating a peasant revolution that caused a nuclear exchange(toxic blockers) led to the hierarchy retreated to a habitat where they exercise martial law of the homeworld and through a knighted order seeks to smite(disguised as peacekeeping) all galactic revolutionary governments not monarchies in liberation wars to get rid of revolutionary thinking. After enforcing a hegemony the paranoia causes them to seek an alternative(crisis) as to retreat to an entirely separate universe where they have total control and leave the rest to rot; basically they want to create the perfect absolutist state which they have been struggling to maintain since the Industrial Revolution.
@@2MeterLP but doesn't all the L gates in the galaxy just lead to the 1 system in the L cluster? So theoretically, you can just camp all your ships and stations into that 1 chokepoint then good luck invading it
I just wished it would only open for those who finished the Research. I spend all that Time getting all 7 Hints and opening it ... just for the entire Galaxy to rush in like Vultures
Lets face it i love the fact they are expanding on the nemesis system to turn the player into what is equal to a raid boss in MMO's and having different playstyle is a nice touch.
This is a really awesome crisis, even better than what I imagined for a crisis path. I was expecting just a simple "spread across the galaxy as nanites" effect early on, but this is fantastic, for both fun and RP. It really gets me thinking of a rogue servitor that decides this universe is too harsh for its bio trophys and decides to create paradise for them, by possibly using them or others in the process.
I bet that rogue servitor idea is the non-player crisis (Synthetic Queen) introduced by this expansion. A being from an older universe arrived to our more recent one.
@isothynebyron I figured the synthetic queen was more of a religious machine, who is trying to elevate the universe to a "higher plane" of existence rather than a rogue servitor. Given that she has a halo and speaks of giving knowledge, power, and love.
So, you know how in the crisis ending, every star system becomes a black hole? It would've been cool if this crisis ends with the player going into a completely new game at year 2200 that lets you play a sort of New Game Plus run, keeping all of your endgame tools at the start and allowing you to play diplomacy with fallen empires as if they were normal NPC empires, but then again, it wouldn't really work in multiplayer lol.
I think it's very interesting how the ramifications of breaching the black hole affect the rest of the galaxy. A mass distortion of spacetime, the rest of the galaxy trapped in stasis, and your empire left a shadow of its former self. Can our Fallen Empire awaken? Can they rise once more, and maybe even begin the path of Cosmogenesis again? You could even call it a closed loop. What was, will be.
what my next playthrough be like: Synaptic Lathe + Slaves = Win - Win new use for organic entities has been discovered! synaptic lathe priority construct begin conquest protocols on all non contained organic lifeforms we seek the the knowledge of the universe!
17:11 isnt this what the contingency is afraid of? A robotic super computer that becomes a singularity that casually alters reality itself? This fallen empire may not casually do so (as far as 17:11 in the video tells me) but its getting quite scarily close
Other fallen empires didn't become fallen empires due to this ascension perk, as per a dev comment on the dev diary. They took the long way, while the empire with this ascension perk is bascially speed running becoming a fallen empire in that universe.
@@MontuPlays Yes you're right there's a probably in there. Here's the exact quote: "Most Existing Fallen Empires took millenias to get where they are now, and probably didn't speedrun breaking reality like you will. The Fallen Empires are unlikely to positively view you trying to "steal their techonology" and might try to stop you."
This and virtual ascension? I may actually play as a crisis for once. This is how I've always wanted my empires to be, push technology to the limits! Im definitely getting the dlc. Plus, it helps they used my favorite race in the trailer, so its a cherry on top, lol.
This really goes full circle huh... In the infinity machine event we eventually find out that black holes are doors to potentially new universe's and now we get the means to actually do it, a Full sense of realization fills me seeing that a concept hinted at a event can be accomplished is really cool for the lore Where they foreshadowing all this time?
I’m pretty sure the “pi rounded to 3” is a terry pratchett reference. There's an inversely genius character called Bloody Stupid Johnson who made a mail sorter with pi as 3, and it bends reality as it sorts letters that have yet to be written.
"This scares the crap out of me" I think summarizes VERY well why this is a crisis. If you are a normal empire going about your business and you see this going on? HOLY MOLY you are going to lose your shit and be EXTREMELY aggressive. I think making it so becoming a fallen empire is a crisis is a perfect idea if this is how they intend to do it. Because this is both awesome and absolutely terrifying from the morality perspective.
The blokkats: we're working hard and consuming galaxies to create a better universe with a massive megastructure Nemesis empire: *attempts to blow up the galaxy* Blokkats: lol, no Cosmogenesis empire: we're leaving Blokkats: oh, see you later, I suppose Cosmogenesis empire: we're not going to another galaxy, loser, we're going to another, younger, universe to fit it to our liking Blokkats: wait... what!?! YOU CAN DO THAT?!?!
"All of the eons that we were used to dismantle superclusters, and you tell me would could ahve just go into a black hole and have perfect Blokkonstrukt waiting for us?"
Finally! With Augmentation Bazaaars and this crisis path, you can loreplay as power and science hungry Megacorp, that doesn't have any mortal rules, like Arasaka :D
I like how this seems to dehumanize the pops when their put into the Synaptic Lathe. It’s like their no longer people, but simply another part of the great computer.
Imagine thematic role play where galactic nemesis and cosmogenesis empire compete in a race of two megaprojects: one has to breach the shroud before the other dives into a black hole with horizon needle. And therefore they have to compete for pops and resources that they can harvest on other empires.
The catalogue index fallen empire got ravaged by the unbidden when it first came through ages ago. But fascinating that we finally get new speculations about the fallen empires.
ZoFE doesn't put you on a crisis path. It will likely be adjusted, though. I don't really know how as ZoFE has been overshadowed by ACoT in my mod list.
@@Riaelsi sabes cómo funciona entonces ignora mi comentario xD Pero en esencia, ACOT y ZoFE usan métodos distintos para que llegues al nivel de un Fallen Empire. Aparte, ZoFE se concentra más en los FE mientras que ACOT, aunque si que told Fallen Empire son súper importantes, también se expande en otras direcciones. O al menos eso recurso, que ha pasado mucho desde que jugué xD
oh this will def fuck with some of tye more complex mods relating to the fallen empires out there. winder if machine empires get a special variant of the althe, considering they can just build more processors and replace/repair the burned out components realistically speaking.
@@2MeterLP also the presence of building slots makes me think you can still build/clone pops. so I do see a few cases where you can probs run a buikd who doesn't suffer from the pop decline.
Did you notice the Leath has no "pop growing" slot? It looks like you'll have to move your owned pops their. I wonder how quickly the brains will burn out and you'll have to replace them?
Just imagine the torture, of being put in that. Being forced to think tiny parts of eldritch thought. The complete manic, the constant anxiety, until finally your brain gives up.
>synaptic lathe I'm reminded of an episode of star trek: enterprise where the ship is damaged and encounters a fully automated repair bay in the middle of nowhere, with the twist that the repair bay covertly abducts crew to use for the specific purpose of acting as biochips.
This whole synaptic lathe seems like a godsend to all trade builds... Converting directly energy into science at a exponential rate without having to dedicate mining, factory and research worlds (or face market hyperinflation) sounds really gamebreaking in terms of late-game tech scaling
…but you have to dedicate your pops and also other empires will have bad opinions on you meaning that you’re not going to be able to build trade offices and such
@@ultraflopp2802 It seems to be a tech expensive enough for you to meet and commercial pact the galaxy beforehand; the pop decline is indeed a problem but if it's a fixed purge amount it's worth it to keep a cloning world/habitat nearby to compensate, it'll still be far superior to filling out worlds and habitats with research labs
This is the first DLC in a while that is getting me excited to play the game again. i always loved machine empire style gameplay. Looking forward to it!
It gives me the idea that this must have been the Materialistic Fallen Empire route to become a Fallen Empire. I do not see the Spiritualist Fallen Empire having done this.
I certainly do, because we have a real life example. The Catholic Church. At forefront of scientific discovery since the middle ages, todate. Operating about half of all observatories, running some of the most sophisticated laboratories on the planet, and generally, just being obsessed with gathering knowledge. Granted, its not something ppl usually think about, then they think of Catholic Church, nor is any of it done, for the sake of common good of mankind... Nonetheless, it is the Catholic Church, what was pushing science for millennia. As such, i can see it.
@@theflame5919yeah, after the fall of House of Wisdom. Catholic Church and their Vatican Library is the one that spearheaded most of scientific discoveries and research at the time. Same as the Spiritual FE, because in a sense they are not against scientific and knowledge and Spirtual FE itself i think they were once a materialistic empire before the Keeper of Knowledge starting to turn people into cyborg which horrified them. But if the Knowledge itself is opposites of what their morals or belief, they are gonna try to shunned it with all their might. Like how Catholic church with Galileo research about star system and hiw Spirituals FE with robotics and unregulated syntethic ascendance like they see with Keeper of Knowledge.
@@theflame5919 you do deserve a cookie for mentioning the church efforts regarding regards, although you loose half of said cookie for not talking about how the church suppressed certain research fields for their apparent heretic nature.
@@andrefasching1332 oh, the Church, always was zealous about knowledge. It's both, gathering knowledge, and curating the same. Afterall, knowledge is power. But, all the same, the institution itself, what it managed to pull off, is rather impressive. No state, neither funded science and development as the Catholic Church, nor contributed as much directly to scientific discovery, as that institution did, not only that, but consistently. Anyhow.. using this example, to illustrate, what a religious institution, can certainly be committed to science, and discovery, for religious reasons.
Thank you, developers, for the resync button, and also to Montu for bringing us this amazing news. Hopefully, clicking the resync button won't crash the game. 😅
And so they addet ACoT into Stellaris That is actually nice that they have made simpler versions of precursor tech so those who play modes still can not even wait for a new patch but simple advance from simpler escort to precursor escorts, a nice touch
I think I have the most evil idea in the history of this game. Elevated synapses + Augumented intelligence + damn the consequences + intelligent + as many neural gates as possible + synaptic Overclocker + synaptic resonator + synaptic validator + ascension+ other buffs for pops (buffs for specialists will not work most likely which might be an issue) = INFINITE RESEARCH
I've been trying to do a pacifist crisis playthrough, with vassals and illegal Tiyankis within my border to generate menace, and stockpilling enough dark matter from researchers. I am probably not going to finish that before this new crisis' playthrough.
“Illegal Tiyankis” I love Stellaris community so much, generating menace to the point that you make the shroud so unstable that all of the stars explode via keeping Tiyanki within your borders
By itself not at the cost of others i dont see it being petty to "leave the universe bc we dont like its physics" in other words "leave the universe to make our own in our image" its more of a creation and intresting science experiment to create a perfect or better universe. Its not bc "me no likey" its for betterment and intrest. A paradise universe where the laws of physics refuse to let you to the most evil things while still making sense.. maybe by pure luck or just somehow making certain horrible things a impossibility through a highway around.
Since you can get galactic support... I think it'd be kinda cool if there was a cooperation path. Like maybe you could bail half-way through when things start breaking, or maybe you study cautiously with the support of the galaxy, but trigger a counter-crisis where a few other empires become motivated to rush ahead, starting a galactic war with FE tech. Or maybe the FEs awaken to try to stop the plebs from getting on their level. Or maybe this allows you to fight the worm in its true capacities, or to fight the shroud patrons.
It’s been a hot minute since I’ve played Stellaris, I think it has a lot to do with the last few DLCs being… less than great. But this expansion has me genuinely wanting to dive back in. Super excited!
18:36 Depending on the scale, rounding Pi to such values can make sense. NASA for example only uses 16 digits of Pi because using more wouldn't be computationally worth it and the added accuracy is in the centimetre to millimetre area when talking about sizes of our solar system.
I really hope researching the Applied Infinity Thesis forces the Contingency to wake up, similar to how the Unbidden show up if you research Warp Drives
that would be a nightmare. you angered the fallen empires as you try to "steal there technology", than the galactic community because of your playing around with the laws of physic and then the contingency comes knocking as you most likely just leaped faaaaaaaaar ahead of there activation requirements in tech. then evacuating all of your pops and keepening the space needle safe gone be a hard ride.
I’m very excited to play as a driven assimilator with this DLC! The thought of playing as a memory bank grey goo driven assimilator and going out and conquering and stealing pops to ascend to a new plane of existence is very exciting!!
The 2 on the Synaptic Cogitator looks like is has something to do with starbases, like a 2% increase per chip to either starbase damage/hull or number of defence platforms. Even if not it definitely seems like something militar focused
Go driven assimilator, use the nanobot colossus and then transfer them all to the lathe. No happiness, no revolts, no stabilize issues. Keep 1 person behind to strip mine it for nanites with the new nanobot ascension😊
"Step forth, brave ones, and burn" is such a raw line it alone would motivate me to buy this already impressive DLC if i wasn't already hurting on money a bit.
What really interests me here is the Fallen Empire jobless buildings. They use their dimensional replicators, singularity generators, and the like so they don't have to do anything, you can use them to free up workers for the Lathe.
I assume that this means that additional crisis paths will be able to be modded in. Maybe this was possible before, but it definitely seems much more feasible now.
I like how the devs are looking at different ways to give us crisis beyond just big military threats. Like you could have a a small empire and still do this crisis only playing defensively. Favors you in fact.
The exterminator machines may take offensive in the notion that their crisis wanted to cause maximum suffering. They always eradicated their target planets or solarsystems in as quick a manner as possible.
Virtual existence creates a pop instantly when a workplace appears, if this path and virtual existence ascension can be taken at the same time, then you can fill all the slots with overclocking buildings and go full overdrive.
I am very happy to see this, however me as a Hive Mind Player, feel quite abandoned by our Paradox Overlords. We've had 2 DLC's focusing on the Machine Empires and the DLC that brought in the Hive Minds, also brought in the Machines. That was Utopia. Sure we got every now and then some new origins and civics but it isn't the same as getting 2 whole DLC's dedicated to you. I am at least happy that a previous update devlog showed glimpses of Hives being able to go for Psionic Ascension. We really need new shipsets just for biological Hives.
I 100% agree, it would also be cool if we get a new player crisis path with the hive minds, like stellar infection or something. Actually that would be a clever way to add bio ships as well, just bigger n badder
What do you mean "As a Hive Mind Player"? Do you always play the same? ..why? Im not trying to be mean, I am genuinely curious. For me, trying out new kinds of empires and playstyles is the reason I still play Stellaris after all these years.
I have a suspicion that the next big DLC will focus on biological and/or psionic ascention, given they will be left feeling a bit bland after this DLC, and that would be the perfect time to touch up on biological hiveminds. I'm also a hive main, so my fingers are crossed we'll actually get some attention at some point lol
@@2MeterLP, I just mean I play mostly Hive Mind as I like them the most, to be more clear I should say Gestalt Conciousness Empire's. I have many a Mega Corp, Machine or Psionic Empire run and have fun with them. The most fun I had was with my Knights of the Toxic God, as Nurgle seeks to make everyone his friends. But the first Game I completed was with Terravore. There is just something about just destroying the whole Galaxy for the sake of hunger or hatred for the meat-bags.
@@niliousA fellow Terravore enjoyer in the wild. Noice. What's your flavor? Partial to Void Dwellers + Void Hive, & eating any planet not in my core sector, myself.
Imagine one civilization achieving this outcome during most violent time in the galaxy possible. The Galaxy: Raging with storms and anomalies The Menacing Crisis Empire: On a rampage devastating civilizations, planets and stars in their way Prethoryn Scourge: Feasting upon horrified xenos The Unbidden: Hunting defenseless aliens and competing with other clans The Contingency: Exterminating all sentient life before it's too late New Crisis: Bringing peace and stability to the galaxy through very questionable means Fallen Empires: Duking it out in war in heaven while also fighting everyone else Regular Empires: Screaming in terror while being on fire The Smart Bois: Fuck this shit, I'm out! No thanks! Don't mind me, Imma just gonna grab my stuff and leave! Excuse me please! Fuck this shit, I'm out! (Launches entire civilization on Horizon Needle through black hole into a new universe) . . . . . . The people who decided to stay behind: I think we made a mistake....
Honestly tinkering with reality and laws of nature themselves is the most exciting thing form this upcoming DLC for me. It's using science to push limits of the unknown, bending magic into explained mechanics of the universe and attaining power that god itself would be terrified of!
My guess is that with there being a method of gaining galactic support (and the fact you don’t gain much) is that as you go further into this crisis, the fallen empires will begin to reawaken as you gain more and more of their techs, eventually creating a sort of technological arms race between you and the fallen empires to reach what was their former strength
I wonder is the lathe will indirectly buff Nihilistic Acquisition, because you can steal other empires pops to fuel the machine. (At least I suspect you can)
11:30 - I think chip is actually "correct" because I think they cease to be pops once they go in there. If you look at the interface, there's no resettle button. Meaning their residence there is quite permanent more than likely; meaning they are merely components of the machine, rather than discrete pops anymore.
I believe that each Fallen Empire has a unique story on how they Ascended and Fell thereafter. The Cosmogenesis Empire ascends using the Needle and their control group is simply a tiny fragment that chose to stay behind - weakened enough to not count as an End-Game Crisis but still strong enough to count as a Fallen Empire. This belief comes from the fact that each Fallen Empire is different (there's no way a Spiritualist Ascendancy would create a Horizon Needle, they would likely instead use the Shroud itself to bend reality or something), and Fallen Empires at the end of the day are simply much more advanced empires than the usual ones found in the galaxy.
Its so crazy to see how much stellaris has grown with each expansion just blows my mind how much more freedom your given each time cant wait to see what more they do to the game
Dev comments far below the diary responds about the other Fallen Empires. They may or may not have done the Horizon Needle thing. I attribute much to the Synthetic Queen. She was locked away.
Well really it's all about the approach. When you hire millions of people to serve on your ships to break them against the enemy time after time - it's morally justified and no one even questions it. But when you start doing the same thing in a weirder form, everyone immediately has questions.
I wonder how the Blokkat Harvesters from Gigastructural Engineering would react. IIRC they easily counter Galactic Nemesis by gravity stabilizing the entire galaxy so you can't blow it up with dark matter. Maybe they'll let you leave for another universe, consume your static control group (ie the Fallen Empire you leave behind) ... and in the new younger universe your Horizon Needle ends up getting immediately consumed by the Blokkats there.
This DLC is going to be one of the ones that are a must have. I'm so looking forward to becoming a fallen empire! But even more so a full ascended empire!! Oh and the roboty bits. First playthrough planned Cyborg Driven assimilator ascendant empire.
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The +2% in the Synaptic Cogitator is Ship Experience. Yes, ships have experience and they can level up making them better.
How much do I have to pay to not get humankind??
@@ThatPianoNoob feel free to send me the steam key for that haha
This has been one of the best bundles in a while imo
@@MontuPlays thank you for your service
Using brains for computing power was actually the original idea behind Matrix, they supposedly changed it because they were worried the audiences of the time wouldn't get the concept.
I have mixed feelings about this statement.
@@Crazylom : it makes me feel old -- I was an adult at a time when tight links between humans and machines was still weird. It was most of a decade before the iPhone came out and we all got glued to our screens full time.
I knew that. Honestly they should have retconned it by Matrix 3
The matrix in general makes less sense the more you learn and think about it
“Our audience won’t have big brains. What’s something a smoof brain would understand?”
“Batteries.”
“Perfect.”
"Fuck it we ball"
-My dumbass empire rewriting time and space to remove mosquitos from existence.
Side effect trees have seems to become sentient and have started to fist fight everything in sight
@@littleolelonk4759 Worth it
@@littleolelonk4759 I would love to have a fish fight from time to time with a tree and then chill out and talk with the tree bros
@@littleolelonk4759
So basically the "trees" on the border world of Xen in the Half-Life Series... XD
that's not a crisis, that's a public service!
Win the game -> become a fallen Empire -> continue playing as a new empire -> defeat previous Empire and go down the same path -> win the game -> repeat
Don't give them achievement ideas...
@@LuckyFes Feel like "We're Not Through With This Yet" would be a good name for it
@hirocheeto7795 "Let's Do The Time Warp Again"
@@aformofmatter8913 That is so perfect that I'll actually be mad if it's not in the game
What was will be. What will be was.
They should’ve leave not a “control group” stay behind, but a single immortal scientist with a science ship, which looks like a blue police box and can travel in space and time boundlessly
No joke, watching this video I thought "I'm gonna make Time Lords."
@@BluegrassGeek same lmao, also the escort ship's basically a TARDIS
I think the presented way to become a fallen empire is just "your story", it does not mean, all fallen empires were created that way
they confirm this in the dev replies
saying that "probably" we're the first ones to use this method
@@letsplaysvonaja1714 just confirms that someone (fallen empire or a precursor) may have done it before. Not that it is the origin of ALL fallen empires.
We know the lore behind 4 fallen empires by lore I mean the actual story, 2 were made fallen due to the war in heaven, 1 due to the crisis destroying their mainframe the machine one and one due to this
@@aeronothis5420 Viltaums tried.
I don’t think all fallen empires ascended this way. Maybe the materialists did because only fanatic materialists would be bold (or some would say foolish) enough to dare to do such a thing. It’s very obvious however that there was once several great calamities or cataclysms that afflicted the galaxy: be it the War in Heaven or the Unbidden visiting to consume the galaxy. Whatever the case, that is what caused most fallen empires to fall into decline, decadence, and becoming increasingly dismissive of the new empires that rise up and build their own new galactic order. The machine fallen empire in particular were especially affected brutally. They seemed to have been built by a past galactic community in a previous time where the galaxy was connected to protect all sentient life against the Contingency. But the Unbidden visiting to consume the galaxy somehow broke them. Their central processing ringworld was utterly destroyed, leaving them reeling and never able to recover. They still struggle with programming errors and will act out strangely; demanding other empires to hand over their pops or mass vaccinate them against some sort of disease that no longer exists and with vaccines that are biologically incompatible. Refusing to do so will make them deem you as “compromised” and therefore must be eliminated. All fallen empires have fallen into some sort of dismissive and self serving mentality, but it seems that the spiritualist empire has their stuff together the best. Their pops still farm and work the factories and still patrol the cities and they have never let automation take over their menial jobs because they believe that AI poses a threat to their spiritual way of life. They are also all psionic and communicate with each other solely through telepathy, perhaps even foregoing verbal communication altogether and only speaking verbally on the rare occasions they interact with outsiders.
"Our ancestors once rearranged the stars in the sky to their own liking, but we are wiser now." A common saying in Warhammer 40K's Imperium that suddenly has a LOT of context. Very interesting stuff.
@@StarboyXL9I think Archmagos Ultima Cryol said something suspiciously similar to this.
I think the imperium would love to move stars again the dark eldar do it using stars as a shield or wall could help
@@StarboyXL9The Aeldari said that, though that isn't the exact saying. Infact it's a bit wrong as he broke and meshed two different sayings into one.
The Imperial saying is "In ancient times men built wonders and sought to better themselves for the good of all. We are much wiser now."@@StarboyXL9
specfially thats refrencing human technology at the height of there power int he golden age of technology where humans had "sun eaters" basically giant planet sized worm shaped mining machines that could also mine into stars and explode them
this ascension is actually hillarious. Imagine the most powerful species just drops out of the game and leaves you behind
kinda feels like the teachers of the shroud leaving when the endgame crisis arrives.....
i like that they seem to imply theres still moral choices as the "bad guy" as they imagine diffrent ending text depending on your choices considering the rest of the galaxy so "bad" "neutral" "good" is likely the possible results.
good would be as this comment describes as if the biggest player in the game just desynced and everything they had vanished while undoing any previous changes they made to back to start conditions.
Wouldn't you do that? I mean... Hell, you are going to the universe, where you can make anything happen. You can create a universe of WH40k, you can create a universe inhabited by furries or the universe that lives by the rules of your favorite anime. And then - download yourself in it with all the abilities you desire, so after death - your personality will return to the original mind, with all of the experience you have experienced. First person...
I mean... Remember Steve from Spore. I bet he understands.
Warmongering xenophobes who were left behind: “… well, that’s just hurtful.”
Montu: Cosmogenesis is making me uncomfortable.
Cosmogenesis: I will give you 20% more alloys.
Montu: I am no longer uncomfortable.
I'm in this picture and I don't like it...
Hey, 20% is 20%. - Materialist empire probably.
MILITARY ESCALATION!
@@Snoogen11 I'm not xenophilic, but 20% is 20%.
The Boulder is no longer conflicted
"I reject your reality and substitute my own."
Dungeonmaster or mythbusters?
Montu: WHAT ARE THESE GUYS DOING?!
Also Montu: Oh, 20.537% bonus... *cough cough ascends cosmogenesis*
This player crisis could work really well for clone armies as their clone vats produce pops faster depending on how few pops are around. Also Barbaric Despoilers or Nihilistics acquisition empires will also work well as they can just gather more chips for the fire with a raid.
Imagine getting out of the clone vat and being immediately put into another one
Clone armies probably could get really op
Forget about advancing the crisis, just keep feeding your pops to the lathe and reap enormous rewards
Nemesis crisis is also fairly strong without getting final level, arguably stronger
If the chips are worker jobs, nerve staple some pops, enslave them, then set them to breed on a thrall world. Might go good with Syncretic Evolution orgin too.
@@sneedmcsneed2762 yeah, this Synaptic Lathe seems like a massive Tech Habitat, if you allow Robots to have rights and let them have ruler jobs, then you can move all your vats to the Lathe and gain about +150 pop assembly until you reach 33 pops (it's been awhile since I last played Clone Armies).
@@johnthecrazedsskull81the dev replies under the dev diary already mentioned that you can't put ancient clone vats on it, the only buildings allowed are the specific ones that were shown
I love EVERYTHING about this. Next, I need Pacifist crisis where virals, system storms, and forced devolution are pushed on the entirety of the galaxy. And finally, something that pushes into an "Ultra Leviathan" where the society has hoisted/controlled a massive singular entity that eats planets and grows to consume systems, the system, and eventually the universe. One that I would also love is MIB-style, the miniaturization of a galaxy.
If allowing you to be nomadic ever becomes a thing, being a living planet would be epic indeed.
Unicron?
@@amandag.6186Galactus
@@MrPaillan dude...i wanted a fleet based nomadic "empire" for years now. Quarian Mass Effect Style~ instead we have void born...
Actually there IS a mod origin for Living Planet... It is not refined but the whole idea is there.
This is giving me a fun playthrough idea: Benevolent Cosmogenesis:
Ethics: Xenophile, Egalitarian, Materialist
Government Type: Democratic
Origin: Prosperous Unification (For RP reasons weirdly enough)
Civics: Beacon of Liberty & Idealistic Foundation, Spec into Meritocracy later
Species Traits Intelligent, Docile, Decadent, Fleeting
Description: After a few minor conflicts, the [species name] people were able to set aside their differences to come together for the greater prosperity of them all. They now seek the stars to find new species they can bring into the fold for a glorious common future.
The goal of the run: Before achieving cosmogenesis, bring every other non-FE empire into the fold so that you can bring them with you into this new universe, allowing them to walk hand in hand with you as you eliminate all suffering together.
This is sick; my Ides was oddly the complete opposite with selfishness and force complacency on the rest of the galaxy as a materialist, xenophobic, Pacifists as a Inward Perfection Celestial empire with Aristocracy(or technocracy) and Agrarian idol to then bring forth a haven in which a paranoid hierarchy can hide and reap the benefits of a feudal order that would remain separate and safe from revolution(the idea being the realm was unified only after a revolution and a nuclear exchange nearly wiped the order off the face of the planet they remained on, they managed to suppress it and create a habitat to come up with plans[this is through toxic god origin-just without emphasis on] to create a perfected and permanent order dedicated to furthering their agenda and wealth at the expense of reality)
The idea also being that the knights were created as a peacekeeping force to suppress all people who would oppose the feudal order throughout the galaxy, only to learn after subjugating the galaxy they would just make one of their own creation.
For extra challenge have the planet occupied by a decadent, unruly, repugnant, and slow breeding population while moving leadership to the habitat and enforcing martial law on all future worlds. It’s a challenging idea but through a role play perspective this Crisis is amazing.
theme wise its great
sounds like a good idea
Holy shit thats... thats amazing,a Reverse "Crisis"
Mine initial reaction was to create a materialist inward perfection with toxic gods and role play a an agricultural idol withtechnocracy or noble elite which, after defeating a peasant revolution that caused a nuclear exchange(toxic blockers) led to the hierarchy retreated to a habitat where they exercise martial law of the homeworld and through a knighted order seeks to smite(disguised as peacekeeping) all galactic revolutionary governments not monarchies in liberation wars to get rid of revolutionary thinking.
After enforcing a hegemony the paranoia causes them to seek an alternative(crisis) as to retreat to an entirely separate universe where they have total control and leave the rest to rot; basically they want to create the perfect absolutist state which they have been struggling to maintain since the Industrial Revolution.
Perfect, I was until now "leaving" the Galaxy by going into the L-gates and isolate myself there
Now I Can properly leave that hole
Isnt the L cluster just about the least isolated part of the galaxy, though? It is connected to all parts of it.
@@2MeterLP but doesn't all the L gates in the galaxy just lead to the 1 system in the L cluster? So theoretically, you can just camp all your ships and stations into that 1 chokepoint then good luck invading it
@@2MeterLP well yes, but there is only one door to shut off
I just wished it would only open for those who finished the Research. I spend all that Time getting all 7 Hints and opening it ... just for the entire Galaxy to rush in like Vultures
@@fuchsmichael93 send multiple science ship and a contruiction ship to secure it, you should survey all before everyone else
Lets face it i love the fact they are expanding on the nemesis system to turn the player into what is equal to a raid boss in MMO's and having different playstyle is a nice touch.
What do you mean a little bit wrong? They're doing their part! And so you will, to the synaptic lathe you go!
This is a really awesome crisis, even better than what I imagined for a crisis path. I was expecting just a simple "spread across the galaxy as nanites" effect early on, but this is fantastic, for both fun and RP. It really gets me thinking of a rogue servitor that decides this universe is too harsh for its bio trophys and decides to create paradise for them, by possibly using them or others in the process.
I bet that rogue servitor idea is the non-player crisis (Synthetic Queen) introduced by this expansion. A being from an older universe arrived to our more recent one.
@isothynebyron I figured the synthetic queen was more of a religious machine, who is trying to elevate the universe to a "higher plane" of existence rather than a rogue servitor. Given that she has a halo and speaks of giving knowledge, power, and love.
The Synaptic Lathe represents the original Matrix plot, before it was dumbed down for the movie xD
So, you know how in the crisis ending, every star system becomes a black hole?
It would've been cool if this crisis ends with the player going into a completely new game at year 2200 that lets you play a sort of New Game Plus run, keeping all of your endgame tools at the start and allowing you to play diplomacy with fallen empires as if they were normal NPC empires, but then again, it wouldn't really work in multiplayer lol.
Probably not but there will hopefully be a mod for this.
Only xenophile and materialist empires maybe. Xenophobes are isolating themselves from just about everyone while spiritualists simply don't care.
When you're tired and become the Boomer yourself
When you had to teach this lesson one too many time to the old man...
If you damn kids won't get off my lawn, then I'm taking my lawn and going home.
you either die a whipper snapper or live long enough to become the boomer
@@zeehero7280😅😅😅
"I am become Boomer, drinker of Monster"
I think it's very interesting how the ramifications of breaching the black hole affect the rest of the galaxy. A mass distortion of spacetime, the rest of the galaxy trapped in stasis, and your empire left a shadow of its former self.
Can our Fallen Empire awaken? Can they rise once more, and maybe even begin the path of Cosmogenesis again?
You could even call it a closed loop. What was, will be.
what my next playthrough be like:
Synaptic Lathe + Slaves = Win - Win
new use for organic entities has been discovered!
synaptic lathe priority construct
begin conquest protocols on all non contained organic lifeforms
we seek the the knowledge of the universe!
17:11 isnt this what the contingency is afraid of? A robotic super computer that becomes a singularity that casually alters reality itself? This fallen empire may not casually do so (as far as 17:11 in the video tells me) but its getting quite scarily close
Other fallen empires didn't become fallen empires due to this ascension perk, as per a dev comment on the dev diary. They took the long way, while the empire with this ascension perk is bascially speed running becoming a fallen empire in that universe.
The Devs didn't quite say that. Wasnt the quote 'probably'.
Either way, I'm glad they clarified. It would have been boring if everyone has done this
@@MontuPlays Yes you're right there's a probably in there. Here's the exact quote:
"Most Existing Fallen Empires took millenias to get where they are now, and probably didn't speedrun breaking reality like you will. The Fallen Empires are unlikely to positively view you trying to "steal their techonology" and might try to stop you."
Backwards Long Jumping into a black hole to move into a
*P A R A L L E L U N I V E R S E*
This and virtual ascension? I may actually play as a crisis for once. This is how I've always wanted my empires to be, push technology to the limits! Im definitely getting the dlc. Plus, it helps they used my favorite race in the trailer, so its a cherry on top, lol.
This really goes full circle huh... In the infinity machine event we eventually find out that black holes are doors to potentially new universe's and now we get the means to actually do it, a Full sense of realization fills me seeing that a concept hinted at a event can be accomplished is really cool for the lore
Where they foreshadowing all this time?
I CANT WAIT FALLEN EMPIRE I RRRRLLLLYYY WANTED THESE SHIPS
I’m pretty sure the “pi rounded to 3” is a terry pratchett reference. There's an inversely genius character called Bloody Stupid Johnson who made a mail sorter with pi as 3, and it bends reality as it sorts letters that have yet to be written.
"This scares the crap out of me" I think summarizes VERY well why this is a crisis. If you are a normal empire going about your business and you see this going on? HOLY MOLY you are going to lose your shit and be EXTREMELY aggressive. I think making it so becoming a fallen empire is a crisis is a perfect idea if this is how they intend to do it. Because this is both awesome and absolutely terrifying from the morality perspective.
The blokkats: we're working hard and consuming galaxies to create a better universe with a massive megastructure
Nemesis empire: *attempts to blow up the galaxy*
Blokkats: lol, no
Cosmogenesis empire: we're leaving
Blokkats: oh, see you later, I suppose
Cosmogenesis empire: we're not going to another galaxy, loser, we're going to another, younger, universe to fit it to our liking
Blokkats: wait... what!?! YOU CAN DO THAT?!?!
"All of the eons that we were used to dismantle superclusters, and you tell me would could ahve just go into a black hole and have perfect Blokkonstrukt waiting for us?"
Cosmogensis empire: I thought you already knew that!
So in conclusion, victory lap around your land and a dive into a black hole ? That’s amazing
Finally! With Augmentation Bazaaars and this crisis path, you can loreplay as power and science hungry Megacorp, that doesn't have any mortal rules, like Arasaka :D
Wait but actually the RulerChip is literally the Relic
Arasaka looks like it at least appreciates old Japanese morals. But here in stellaris it's insane.
@@octolinggrimm6387 😯 You are right! Holy moly! That's even better 😄
@@octolinggrimm6387 Ohhhh, you're giving me ideas for my next attempt at a Stellaris run.
I like how this seems to dehumanize the pops when their put into the Synaptic Lathe. It’s like their no longer people, but simply another part of the great computer.
Imagine thematic role play where galactic nemesis and cosmogenesis empire compete in a race of two megaprojects: one has to breach the shroud before the other dives into a black hole with horizon needle. And therefore they have to compete for pops and resources that they can harvest on other empires.
Babylon 5 type mess
The catalogue index fallen empire got ravaged by the unbidden when it first came through ages ago. But fascinating that we finally get new speculations about the fallen empires.
Can't wait for modders to get their hands on the lathe tech. Proper paradise worlds, proper prison worlds, zoo planets and so on
If we can become a Fallen Empire, I wonder what's gonna happen to ZoFE?
ZoFE doesn't put you on a crisis path. It will likely be adjusted, though. I don't really know how as ZoFE has been overshadowed by ACoT in my mod list.
I hope it gonna be alot easier for the ZoFE devs to implement features because they don't need to do some hacky bypass to make you play as FE anymore.
It will make zofe synergize with the base game easier. Plus the original empire origin is still a really cool story.
@@Zathurious Porque no los dos?
@@Riaelsi sabes cómo funciona entonces ignora mi comentario xD
Pero en esencia, ACOT y ZoFE usan métodos distintos para que llegues al nivel de un Fallen Empire. Aparte, ZoFE se concentra más en los FE mientras que ACOT, aunque si que told Fallen Empire son súper importantes, también se expande en otras direcciones.
O al menos eso recurso, que ha pasado mucho desde que jugué xD
oh this will def fuck with some of tye more complex mods relating to the fallen empires out there.
winder if machine empires get a special variant of the althe, considering they can just build more processors and replace/repair the burned out components realistically speaking.
I also wonder if this locks you out of synthetic ascension because you need organic brains.
@@2MeterLP also the presence of building slots makes me think you can still build/clone pops. so I do see a few cases where you can probs run a buikd who doesn't suffer from the pop decline.
@@2MeterLPNope, they said gestalt empire pops work too since they still have brains, even the machines with positronic versions
@@UberFoX Don't worry, this seems like an external addition. So at worst, it will just overlap until they somehow manage to merge the systems.
I really wish we could resume play as our fallen empire. To continue the great experiment and all that.
You can if I remember correctly
Did you notice the Leath has no "pop growing" slot? It looks like you'll have to move your owned pops their. I wonder how quickly the brains will burn out and you'll have to replace them?
Of course not, how are they supposed to have kids while being used as computer chips?
@@2MeterLP Science, uh.... finds a way.
well my empire mostly suffers from over population, so anyone that would be a burden on my empire can now do his part too.
Just imagine the torture, of being put in that. Being forced to think tiny parts of eldritch thought. The complete manic, the constant anxiety, until finally your brain gives up.
>synaptic lathe
I'm reminded of an episode of star trek: enterprise where the ship is damaged and encounters a fully automated repair bay in the middle of nowhere, with the twist that the repair bay covertly abducts crew to use for the specific purpose of acting as biochips.
Which episode was that?
@@guardian7811 season 2 episode 4: "Dead Stop"
I love how this crisis you become more powerful through quality rather than flooding the galaxy with mediocre ships.
@@UberFoX Who asked
@@UberFoX Mods are shit when it comes to balance.
@@olafjansowidz Exactly and it'll feel more balanced because ai will look at what your doing and go 🤔
"Register for synaptic service and press that like button"
I AM NOT PRESSING THAT SHIT
This whole synaptic lathe seems like a godsend to all trade builds... Converting directly energy into science at a exponential rate without having to dedicate mining, factory and research worlds (or face market hyperinflation) sounds really gamebreaking in terms of late-game tech scaling
…but you have to dedicate your pops and also other empires will have bad opinions on you meaning that you’re not going to be able to build trade offices and such
@@ultraflopp2802 It seems to be a tech expensive enough for you to meet and commercial pact the galaxy beforehand; the pop decline is indeed a problem but if it's a fixed purge amount it's worth it to keep a cloning world/habitat nearby to compensate, it'll still be far superior to filling out worlds and habitats with research labs
The 2% on the cognitator is I believe the symbol they use to show movement speed increases
This is the first DLC in a while that is getting me excited to play the game again. i always loved machine empire style gameplay. Looking forward to it!
It gives me the idea that this must have been the Materialistic Fallen Empire route to become a Fallen Empire. I do not see the Spiritualist Fallen Empire having done this.
I certainly do, because we have a real life example. The Catholic Church. At forefront of scientific discovery since the middle ages, todate. Operating about half of all observatories, running some of the most sophisticated laboratories on the planet, and generally, just being obsessed with gathering knowledge. Granted, its not something ppl usually think about, then they think of Catholic Church, nor is any of it done, for the sake of common good of mankind...
Nonetheless, it is the Catholic Church, what was pushing science for millennia. As such, i can see it.
@@theflame5919yeah, after the fall of House of Wisdom. Catholic Church and their Vatican Library is the one that spearheaded most of scientific discoveries and research at the time. Same as the Spiritual FE, because in a sense they are not against scientific and knowledge and Spirtual FE itself i think they were once a materialistic empire before the Keeper of Knowledge starting to turn people into cyborg which horrified them.
But if the Knowledge itself is opposites of what their morals or belief, they are gonna try to shunned it with all their might. Like how Catholic church with Galileo research about star system and hiw Spirituals FE with robotics and unregulated syntethic ascendance like they see with Keeper of Knowledge.
according to the dev diaries (probably) no one has done this
@@theflame5919 you do deserve a cookie for mentioning the church efforts regarding regards, although you loose half of said cookie for not talking about how the church suppressed certain research fields for their apparent heretic nature.
@@andrefasching1332 oh, the Church, always was zealous about knowledge. It's both, gathering knowledge, and curating the same. Afterall, knowledge is power. But, all the same, the institution itself, what it managed to pull off, is rather impressive. No state, neither funded science and development as the Catholic Church, nor contributed as much directly to scientific discovery, as that institution did, not only that, but consistently. Anyhow.. using this example, to illustrate, what a religious institution, can certainly be committed to science, and discovery, for religious reasons.
Thank you, developers, for the resync button, and also to Montu for bringing us this amazing news.
Hopefully, clicking the resync button won't crash the game. 😅
Now THAT... with the paperclip civic - the true alignment problem.
Isn't there a special ending for a paperclip ending the cosmogenesis route
And so they addet ACoT into Stellaris
That is actually nice that they have made simpler versions of precursor tech so those who play modes still can not even wait for a new patch but simple advance from simpler escort to precursor escorts, a nice touch
I think I have the most evil idea in the history of this game.
Elevated synapses + Augumented intelligence + damn the consequences + intelligent + as many neural gates as possible + synaptic Overclocker + synaptic resonator + synaptic validator + ascension+ other buffs for pops (buffs for specialists will not work most likely which might be an issue) = INFINITE RESEARCH
Yo, this got me all hyped up for the DLC!
same here
I've been trying to do a pacifist crisis playthrough, with vassals and illegal Tiyankis within my border to generate menace, and stockpilling enough dark matter from researchers. I am probably not going to finish that before this new crisis' playthrough.
“Illegal Tiyankis” I love Stellaris community so much, generating menace to the point that you make the shroud so unstable that all of the stars explode via keeping Tiyanki within your borders
14:25
my guess, this is percent per pop, as well as other buildings
and having even +20% research speed... in this economy?!
definitely worth it
By itself not at the cost of others i dont see it being petty to "leave the universe bc we dont like its physics" in other words "leave the universe to make our own in our image" its more of a creation and intresting science experiment to create a perfect or better universe. Its not bc "me no likey" its for betterment and intrest. A paradise universe where the laws of physics refuse to let you to the most evil things while still making sense.. maybe by pure luck or just somehow making certain horrible things a impossibility through a highway around.
Since you can get galactic support... I think it'd be kinda cool if there was a cooperation path. Like maybe you could bail half-way through when things start breaking, or maybe you study cautiously with the support of the galaxy, but trigger a counter-crisis where a few other empires become motivated to rush ahead, starting a galactic war with FE tech. Or maybe the FEs awaken to try to stop the plebs from getting on their level. Or maybe this allows you to fight the worm in its true capacities, or to fight the shroud patrons.
It’s been a hot minute since I’ve played Stellaris, I think it has a lot to do with the last few DLCs being… less than great. But this expansion has me genuinely wanting to dive back in. Super excited!
I have waited a long time for this moment, my little MontuPlays friend. Hehehehahaha!
*gets hit with Stellaris lightning*
ACOT: “look at what they need to match a fraction of our power”
14:10 pretty sure thats shipbuilding speed, very exciting
18:36 Depending on the scale, rounding Pi to such values can make sense.
NASA for example only uses 16 digits of Pi because using more wouldn't be computationally worth it and the added accuracy is in the centimetre to millimetre area when talking about sizes of our solar system.
I really hope researching the Applied Infinity Thesis forces the Contingency to wake up, similar to how the Unbidden show up if you research Warp Drives
that would be a nightmare. you angered the fallen empires as you try to "steal there technology", than the galactic community because of your playing around with the laws of physic and then the contingency comes knocking as you most likely just leaped faaaaaaaaar ahead of there activation requirements in tech. then evacuating all of your pops and keepening the space needle safe gone be a hard ride.
FINALLY WE CAN BECOME A FALLEN EMPIRE
Been waiting for that for years
I’m very excited to play as a driven assimilator with this DLC! The thought of playing as a memory bank grey goo driven assimilator and going out and conquering and stealing pops to ascend to a new plane of existence is very exciting!!
The 2 on the Synaptic Cogitator looks like is has something to do with starbases, like a 2% increase per chip to either starbase damage/hull or number of defence platforms. Even if not it definitely seems like something militar focused
Go driven assimilator, use the nanobot colossus and then transfer them all to the lathe. No happiness, no revolts, no stabilize issues. Keep 1 person behind to strip mine it for nanites with the new nanobot ascension😊
"Step forth, brave ones, and burn" is such a raw line it alone would motivate me to buy this already impressive DLC if i wasn't already hurting on money a bit.
What really interests me here is the Fallen Empire jobless buildings. They use their dimensional replicators, singularity generators, and the like so they don't have to do anything, you can use them to free up workers for the Lathe.
I assume that this means that additional crisis paths will be able to be modded in. Maybe this was possible before, but it definitely seems much more feasible now.
24:11
This really opens up future content for other paths to becoming a fallen empire that aren't so materialistic.
I like how the devs are looking at different ways to give us crisis beyond just big military threats. Like you could have a a small empire and still do this crisis only playing defensively. Favors you in fact.
Holy shit thsi dlc is getting better and better
The exterminator machines may take offensive in the notion that their crisis wanted to cause maximum suffering. They always eradicated their target planets or solarsystems in as quick a manner as possible.
Virtual existence creates a pop instantly when a workplace appears, if this path and virtual existence ascension can be taken at the same time, then you can fill all the slots with overclocking buildings and go full overdrive.
Should have added the resync button as an April fools joke, but just coded the UI.
I am very happy to see this, however me as a Hive Mind Player, feel quite abandoned by our Paradox Overlords. We've had 2 DLC's focusing on the Machine Empires and the DLC that brought in the Hive Minds, also brought in the Machines. That was Utopia. Sure we got every now and then some new origins and civics but it isn't the same as getting 2 whole DLC's dedicated to you. I am at least happy that a previous update devlog showed glimpses of Hives being able to go for Psionic Ascension. We really need new shipsets just for biological Hives.
I 100% agree, it would also be cool if we get a new player crisis path with the hive minds, like stellar infection or something. Actually that would be a clever way to add bio ships as well, just bigger n badder
What do you mean "As a Hive Mind Player"? Do you always play the same? ..why?
Im not trying to be mean, I am genuinely curious. For me, trying out new kinds of empires and playstyles is the reason I still play Stellaris after all these years.
I have a suspicion that the next big DLC will focus on biological and/or psionic ascention, given they will be left feeling a bit bland after this DLC, and that would be the perfect time to touch up on biological hiveminds. I'm also a hive main, so my fingers are crossed we'll actually get some attention at some point lol
@@2MeterLP, I just mean I play mostly Hive Mind as I like them the most, to be more clear I should say Gestalt Conciousness Empire's. I have many a Mega Corp, Machine or Psionic Empire run and have fun with them. The most fun I had was with my Knights of the Toxic God, as Nurgle seeks to make everyone his friends. But the first Game I completed was with Terravore. There is just something about just destroying the whole Galaxy for the sake of hunger or hatred for the meat-bags.
@@niliousA fellow Terravore enjoyer in the wild. Noice.
What's your flavor? Partial to Void Dwellers + Void Hive, & eating any planet not in my core sector, myself.
Imagine one civilization achieving this outcome during most violent time in the galaxy possible.
The Galaxy: Raging with storms and anomalies
The Menacing Crisis Empire: On a rampage devastating civilizations, planets and stars in their way
Prethoryn Scourge: Feasting upon horrified xenos
The Unbidden: Hunting defenseless aliens and competing with other clans
The Contingency: Exterminating all sentient life before it's too late
New Crisis: Bringing peace and stability to the galaxy through very questionable means
Fallen Empires: Duking it out in war in heaven while also fighting everyone else
Regular Empires: Screaming in terror while being on fire
The Smart Bois:
Fuck this shit, I'm out!
No thanks!
Don't mind me, Imma just gonna grab my stuff and leave!
Excuse me please!
Fuck this shit, I'm out!
(Launches entire civilization on Horizon Needle through black hole into a new universe)
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The people who decided to stay behind: I think we made a mistake....
Nice, hope this play through is possible
Will you need the Nemesis DLC to get Cosmogenesis or will it be available in the Machine Age DLC?
Honestly tinkering with reality and laws of nature themselves is the most exciting thing form this upcoming DLC for me. It's using science to push limits of the unknown, bending magic into explained mechanics of the universe and attaining power that god itself would be terrified of!
Seeing how the Lethe and perhaps Later the Horizen needle works, I may revive/update an Old mod of mine.
My guess is that with there being a method of gaining galactic support (and the fact you don’t gain much) is that as you go further into this crisis, the fallen empires will begin to reawaken as you gain more and more of their techs, eventually creating a sort of technological arms race between you and the fallen empires to reach what was their former strength
Oh my lord I've been waiting for a proper vanilla way to get the Fallen Empire buildings forever!
Bro that sounds awesome
I wonder is the lathe will indirectly buff Nihilistic Acquisition, because you can steal other empires pops to fuel the machine. (At least I suspect you can)
11:30 - I think chip is actually "correct" because I think they cease to be pops once they go in there. If you look at the interface, there's no resettle button. Meaning their residence there is quite permanent more than likely; meaning they are merely components of the machine, rather than discrete pops anymore.
THAT Video sold me the Expansion...
I believe that each Fallen Empire has a unique story on how they Ascended and Fell thereafter. The Cosmogenesis Empire ascends using the Needle and their control group is simply a tiny fragment that chose to stay behind - weakened enough to not count as an End-Game Crisis but still strong enough to count as a Fallen Empire. This belief comes from the fact that each Fallen Empire is different (there's no way a Spiritualist Ascendancy would create a Horizon Needle, they would likely instead use the Shroud itself to bend reality or something), and Fallen Empires at the end of the day are simply much more advanced empires than the usual ones found in the galaxy.
I think those +1/+2% bonuses are bonuses per pop. Which should be very good later on
Its so crazy to see how much stellaris has grown with each expansion just blows my mind how much more freedom your given each time cant wait to see what more they do to the game
Dev comments far below the diary responds about the other Fallen Empires. They may or may not have done the Horizon Needle thing.
I attribute much to the Synthetic Queen. She was locked away.
The way Montu said "The multiplayer resync button is coming" gave me same vibes, as "Winter is coming" from GoT
Wow this DLC gets better and better with each new reveal. So looking forward to play as being this new Crisis.
Well really it's all about the approach. When you hire millions of people to serve on your ships to break them against the enemy time after time - it's morally justified and no one even questions it. But when you start doing the same thing in a weirder form, everyone immediately has questions.
I wonder how the Blokkat Harvesters from Gigastructural Engineering would react. IIRC they easily counter Galactic Nemesis by gravity stabilizing the entire galaxy so you can't blow it up with dark matter. Maybe they'll let you leave for another universe, consume your static control group (ie the Fallen Empire you leave behind) ... and in the new younger universe your Horizon Needle ends up getting immediately consumed by the Blokkats there.
This just looks like what the contingency was talking about in the few conversations with them maybe they where right.
This DLC is going to be one of the ones that are a must have. I'm so looking forward to becoming a fallen empire! But even more so a full ascended empire!! Oh and the roboty bits.
First playthrough planned Cyborg Driven assimilator ascendant empire.
I am glad that there are people who still read the Xeelee sequence. It's criminally underrated. Stephen Baxter is one of my favorite sci-fi authors.
idk if anyone mentioned it but the icon you couldn't identify for the Synaptic Cogitator building was "+2% Starting Ship Experience"
Finally, i can perform proper Brotherhood of Nod playthrough with the Ascension and CABAL