"An old man wakes up. Another old man also wakes up. They saw each other, brings up some beef they had a decade ago, and then proceed to fight each other while dragging youngsters into the mess."
I remember my last War in Heaven. I refused to join a side and was invited into the third option alliance. After way to freaking long, the alliance proved victorious, but my allies had... reservations about my version of total war. Less than a year after the war ended, I was forcibly kicked out of the alliance. A War in Heaven 2: Electric Boogaloo later and I was the only empire left standing. There will always be a place in my heart for the Alari Star Empire and their genocidal vengeance (modeled heavily off of the Romulan Star Empire in Star Trek)
I preferred previous non-aligned league version. Why do i must to join in hurry-gathered federation of strangers to oppose Fallens in war in the heaven? Before all of this you could join the League without disbanding your federation.
I refused ALL of them, staying out of the war completely. Eventually the league of non aligned system won, so i ended up with a massive federation on my doorstep who didn't like me at all for watching the war from the sidelines.
I didnt even realize how eventful the War in Heaven was, so many things happened in that time, the war probably lasted a century or half a century. I also like how all of these events are tied together, actions have a reactions, God I love the stellaris lore.
Stellaris War in Heaven: 5 xeno empires fight because they can Warhammer 40k war in heaven: *the gods are being threatened by one of the most powerful races ever known*
Warhammer fan: Why does this sound so familiar? Dune Fan: Yeah, it does found familiar Babylon 5 fan: I think i have seen this before Stellaris fan: What are you guys talking about, its a brand new event Christians: Oh it happened already?
Since I always play with Gigastructural Engineering and put the Fallen Empires at Max Power. Whenever this happens I just sit back and let them literally throw planets and moons at each other. And when they are sufficiently worn out I use my own Attack Moons and Behemoth Planetcraft that I had been building while the old fools were busy punching each other in the face. To take both of the fallen empires out salvage their Celestial Fleets at a bargain and take out the rest of the Fallen Empires shortly after.
Gigastructures are insane by the sheer scale and power of it. Attack moons are like middle class gigastructures. The Quasi Stellar Obliterator literally erase an entire alien race from ever existing in any timeline in any dimension in any spiritual plane. A weapon to kill a chaos god
The GalCom passed a useful resolution against a crisis? Impossible! (Now I really want a mod to let us repair the Caretakers. If anyone deserves it, it's them.) Thank you for yet another amazing video, our King!
Agreed! A mod that allows more diplomacy options with the Fallen Empires would be great. As for the Resolution: They did so in my current game only after I consumed half of the largest map as a devowering entity. If it wasn't for a co-player opening the L-Gates and me forgetting those where back doors.... Now I get to play the fun game of wack-a-mole!
Weirdly enough my most recent Galcom was really quick to pass a good resolution against the Crisis, instead the thing that's been a struggle is trying to keep the Galcom from making custodian term limits endless.
The military isolationists declared war on me when I had gotten three mega ships yards. I drowned them them in corvettes. For every ship they destroyed I had over twenty more closing in.
I still want a set of events that you can repair the caretakers with. I mentioned it before but the rifts are actually a good way to create possibilities. You can explore a rift where you find either the old caretakers or ones that were never crippled to be began with. Can make it a relic that you can give to the caretakers to reroute their central intelligence to a new location so they can rebuild. That or allow cybrog/machine explores hack into and takeover the caretakers acting as their new central intelligence. Nearly every story in stellaris has an end, the caretakers do not.
Idea. Caretakers vs Isolationist Xenophobes. Or Caretakers vs Looping Meta-Stable Exterminator (that stays endlessly looping and attacks no one in an endless 'fixing system')
I was a mega corp that just flooded the galactic markets crashing it causing the fallen empires to take over except for me cause I had the whole galactic economy making me take the whole galaxy
Another excellent video, the crises of stellaris are my absolute favourites, seeing the fallen empires manipulate others as pawns in their wars is great and trying to do the league of non aligned powers feels genuinely so cool. Poor caretakers, I need to finish up my ck3 modding to make a mod to bring them back.
Red King Gang lets goooooooooo, so glad that i can get my Stellaris lore and WH40K lore in the same place with the same level of quality narration and immersive story telling
I once faced a military alliance with 3 nations(lets call them the red alliance), they were 3 times bigger than me in terms of military and economy. They declared war on my egalitarian nation. The first war was fought in my territory. They attacked on all sides, lucky for me i they were very far from me and very incompetent in coordinating their attacks. A lot of my worlds got bombed, millions died. We slowly built our gateway network inside our territory to kick out and fend off the invaders. The war ended with the enemy not achieving any of its objectives. But we all know that peace was temporary. After several years of rebuilding their fleets, the red alliance attacked their neighbor, a spritiual nation(lets call them the purple nation), this nation though not as strong as me, was still strong enough to keep the red alliance preoccupied. I took this opportunity to wage a proxy war with the red alliance by providing the purple nation with all the resources that they needed, credits, minerals, a F ton of alloys, and rare minerals. It became an unending costly war for the red alliance, all while i was building up my military and economy. When i learned that the red alliance was using a wormhole that was connected to a system to one of their member nations capital to invade purple nation, i immediately made plans for the second war. I leveraged my favor with the purple nation to open their borders to connect their gateway with us, built additional shipyards, accumulated enough resources for the upcoming war, expanded my resource storage, and maxed my naval capacity. In one instance, the galactic market was shocked as prices for resources sky rocketed as i spent my coffers to prepare for war, the galaxy knew a great war is coming. The plan was to go through purple nation and capture the wormhole the red alliance was using. The Second War I initiated the Second War against the Reds, my fleets jumped into purple nation, we destroyed all the red alliance's fleet inside purple nation and converged on the system bordering the wormhole. The enemy knew what was happening and hurriedly gathered their forces leaving their other fronts vulnerable to the point that purple nation was able to go on the offensive on these undefended systems. My fleets then jumped on the system, a big and long battle ensued. The defending forces fought hard, they were still a strong opponent, multiple times when their reinforcements arrived they were able to outnumber my fleet in power by several thousands getting even with me, i had to churn out tons of ships to reinforce my fleets, my shipyards working 24/7, my resource reserves almost ran out, but ultimately we won the battle for the system. The enemy not being able to sustain their fleets fast enough stuck to defending their side of the wormhole, guarding it with their fleets and a fully upgraded fortress, they were now on the defensive. I hurriedly built a gateway inside the system. My forces are now with in striking distance against the red alliance. At this point of history, my economy and fleet power was at par with the red alliance, they knew i was bringing the war back to their lands. The war ended, the purple nation got their territory back, the red alliance humiliated, and i got a forward base that i can use against the red alliance. 10 years later the war would erupt once more This time i had the purple nation as an ally. This war would be a sludge as most of the action would happen on the two wormhole system. It was not an easy one. We attacked first but was repelled due to their advantages. They went on the offensive thinking we were severely weakened on the attack, but was met by fierce resistance instead as we were able to send reinforcements quickly through the gateway. We replenished our forces and pushed once again, this time with the help of our purple ally. We also went above our naval max limit to add to our advantage. Slowly the enemy lost their numbers, their fortress weakened and slowly destroyed, the enemy couldn't replace the ships that they are losing, while on our side we still had reserves and were pumping ships every week and every month. The system eventually fell to our control The enemy didn't know what to do as their capital region was open and vulnerable. They gathered what they had on their capital system, and held it for a one last stand. Purple would go deep into enemy territory to shut down a good chunk of their economy while i face them in their capital for a one last fight. It was a one sided fight then on. We made sure that they no longer have the capacity to raise fleets that could rival ours, we bombed their planets, destroyed their shipyards, their mining and research stations, and fortresses At one point of history they we're the ones bombing our planets and our cities, now it was the other way around. Where once stood mighty industries of war, now lie in ruins. Fortresses destroyed, full of dead bodies. Their armies formless. Their fleets, now a debri in space This member nation would get kicked out of the red alliance soon and would fall into disarray as local rebellions cannibalize the nation from the inside. As for the rest of the red alliance, I wouldn't stop until they were destroyed, until they could no longer pose a threat to my nation's peace and security. The Red Alliance would fall 20 years later
I've only encountered the war in heaven once, but by then, my tech level and armies were so turbo maxed that i decided to end the fight within 1 month and defeated all fallen empires
only thing I hate about war in heaven is when the enemy FE AI hard focuses on you the player and doesn't care about being outrunned in their home worlds or even get decimated by end game crises
I love the fact that, if you think about, every match is a galaxy that can pass the same thing one more time like always, I mean, you´re always playing, how you know how many wars and spaceships did this galaxy you´re currently living on have presenced? It's unique.
i wish that one day you'll be able to help the caretakers, it is a shame to see their lack of efficiency in processing and calculation, if they let their fellow synthetics to allow us to aid them in repairs, even few organics we keep trying to give aid, but to no advail, we will grow stronger to defend our fellow servitor, until then we hope that they can last a little longer without major aid, we made sure to share our resorces with our fellow machines, we hope that one day we can repair then and return them to their glory,
I think they have enough experience to know no one can be trusted with that task (organic or not). And they probable have slow repair plan which just takes millenia (not an issue for them)
The war in Heaven, also known as two or more saggy ass empires try to reclaim the galaxy after I left them a single 16 pop planet each during the peace negotiations
i mentioned this on another video's comment section, the unbidden fleet seem to mention some throne alot, the riftworld origin that lets you explore rifts, seems to also reference it once you get to the center of the galaxy via the rifts, where you find an entity that looks like one of the unbidden, except he's trying to hide the throne, so the 'children' dont get it, and he's also capable of working with your empire if you dont try to ask it for the location of the throne
The War in Heaven is the thing the fallen empires started while I was preparing to fight the Contingency That save file is now deleted as it was unsalvagable.
The fallen empires did something similar except for the conducted experiments that fryed all of my worlds because they increase the speed of light somehow... I can't even support my military, we have failed the Galaxy, we have failed our own kind, nothing remains but ashes The thrax eldor have fallen and with us all hope... Not even the gods can save us now...
@@TheAgent0060 Context - I had already fought and destroyed both Determined Exterminators and Fanatic Purifiers before having no time to recover as the first Fallen Empire woke up and declared on me resulting in a 5 year war on top of the 2 wars that lasted a total 7 years. Then I had to fight one of my vassals robot rebellions and ended white peacing after 1 1/2 years with my vassal loosing 10% of their territory. I had 0 time to fully recover my navy or my economy.
In my current playthrough: I became galactic emperor, things are good, Two fallen empires declare war in heaven against me and the entire galaxy, things are not good.
Talking about the Fallen Empires and the Caretakers, I think actually it would be a great idea for a mod about trying to rebuild the caretaker's core as a Rogue Servitor/Pacifist/Xenophile Empire with special digsites near to it or some sort of astral events because why not? and finally expanding the Fallen Empire's ability to engage in diplomacy with other empires other than being in full isolation especially when they awaken because my god even at Awaken they can't do ANYTHING other than go to war and subjugate, i know that is the intended thing but man... Imagine if they could Join the Gal Com and actually do something especially the Xenophile Fallen Empire. Either the two, it would be interesting for a alternate ending for the Caretaker's existence where they are fully fix and becomes a functional advance rogue servitors other than exploding at the end of a contingency invasion 2.0.
Cosmogenesis VS War in Heaven VS 25x Contingency VS grand admiral AI is what's happening right now in my game and it's crazy! Awakened empires are going crazy on everyone with their 500k fleets while cyberex and I (cosmog) are fighting a contingency with fleets that have 5.6 million to 14.6 million fleet power
I remember when the galaxy I had reached crisis year and the Materialists woke up. They started what I could only call and argument with me, the imperial council, and the Awakened empire. At some point the Unbidden breached in and we collectively smacked them back out, and continued our argument.
@@casartherandom3010 ahh you're lucky! In the game before this one I got bullied by materials FE in 3 wars, and when I became stronger then them, they INVITED their spiritualist rivals to fight me, but I won that one, and later the spiritualist FE invited me to a war against an evil federation. This game can be really fun sometimes
@@irkenempire2849 I recently did the Cosmogenesis Crisis line...the Fallen Empires hated me. They kept trying to declare war on me, so I declared total war on the Xenophobes, killed them all, and then turned around, dealing with the punitive war from the spiritualist and then destroying the Materialists. After that, the other three left me well enough alone while I made my choice.
@@casartherandom3010 it was similar here, but since I did Montu's unity through trade, megacorp, virtual ascension rush I reached Cosmogenesis with some 40 pops around 2250 but even with a crazy powerful economy and 6k research I rushed it just too quickly where I had to accept a humiliation demand or I'd lose lots of fleets and alloys for nothing over and over even if I was making 2000 alloys before mid game.
@@irkenempire2849 I did the same thing as well expect the game ended at 2375 with me ended 2 fallen empire tho i could ended it more early just because they give me 100 years of humiliation
i REALLY REAAAAAAAAAALLLY want a dlc that focuses on the fallen empires- i wanna be able to have the possibility to become an awakened empire/galactic ascendancy like in Zenith of fallen empires
If I remember correctly, certain fallen empire events are a lot darker when you use the console to view their perspective on things. Like the scientist one...
Tsk Tsk, someone stole my tactic. Cloaked ship, Star Eater Weapon, and a Jump Drive.... Who needs armies and fleets, when the non-players forget to protect their suns?
Can't wait for the next DLC, the Grand Archive, to see if they have any interesting galactic lore discover. Specially with the reported 15 NEW RELICS added and the expansion to the Curator Order.
Man, i thought you were gone, have the bell notification and haven't gotten anything in a month. On the brightside, a good binge watching session is always nice.
There is nothing you could do against the isolationists that could be considered in any way a crime. They have done so to others, and so they forfeited the privilege not to have it wrought against them.
Greetings Red King, great video as always, but I have a theory I thought you might like(unrelated to the subject) What is the hyperplane network was in some way tied to organic life? It would explain why all empires are connected, the abundance of habitable worlds and the lack of stars in the galaxy. Would love to hear your opinion on this
I believe the hyperlanes were built by someone/something, but sadly there is nothing in the game about it beyond the CoM origin story as far as i'm aware
We, the Massinids see the brewing conflict and will download this knowledge to upgrade our current military capacity for the coming war. We urge all nations to join us and pacify these awakening fallen empires.
An easy summary is Homer Simpson's father and Chester at the table during the holidays and then one wakes up like "I thought I recognized you." The rest is fists😂
I lucked out my last war in heaven. My trade federation had the north half of the galaxy, so when I went 3rd party everyone else flocked to our side. We killed the isolationists first and then lived long enough for cetana to start fucking around.
I love the war in heaven or atleast the concept because I’ve only had one and the league wouldn’t fall apart after we won so it essentially became the galactic council/ un before that was a part of the game. No one would ever vote to kick anyone out. Still that war was Amazing Materalist Vs Spiritualists with most AI using starwars ships and bordered the Materialists so I had to fight them alone while the rest focused on the stronger spiritualists. Then as my 1mil fleet took on the Materialists 1mil and I started to loose the rest of the league showed up 2m vs 1m the materialists ended up, essentially surviving that war because they had new ships and I figured it was better to just wipe out the spiritualists take their colonies and then use them to kill the remaining materialists. It was great.
The way I've explained how the fallen empires is that the major world powers (America, China, Russia, Britain, and India) all reduced their territory by a lot after a giant world ending war, but holding a very small part of land, not leaving, and enjoying life in splendor and being apathetic to the new governments popping up, being so much stronger.
I remember mine first war in heaven. Mine empire was a Void Dwellers Mega Corp with focus on equality, pacifism and little bit xenophobic but more in the isolation kind of way. Mine empire focused on friendly trading with other empires and tried to stay away from any conflict but they still got some nice fleets for the purpuse of having army on standby. After some time while mine empire make some nice relations with other one I made federacion Trade League. It got his ups and down because many of mine alies didnt like each other much. That make them into the loop of insulting each other and me because "Im friend with their enemy" and many of mine federacion members tried to make war with their enemy what I just declined every time what make them not happy. Still the uneasy peace standed. When the galactic community became in life I became one of the main member of the council. When the new war in heaven started between 2 fallen empires and asked for stand on some of the sides I choose none and changed mine federacion to a League of Non-Aligned Powers and used mine power in council to convince galactic community by "Denouncing Both Awakened Empires" and to stand with me what they did. Only 2 lessers empires didnt join. Because I got many habitats and mine population was high and was a follower of the rule "If You Want Peace, Prepare for War" mine fleets were ready... With that I even started going with the Galactic Custodian but that was only for bonuses in this hard times. Mine fleets were split into 3 squads. 2 of them were focused on defending Awaked Empire attacking fleets and hold them with mine allies while the 3rd squad was the offensive one. It went to enemy systems and if the they could even the one of 2 squads joined them. When I defeated them with the help of mine allies... war in heaven ended and because most of empires were in mine League their atteps to create another little war between empires also ended... With the League of Non-Aligned Powers I brought peace to galaxy but it was still not enought. I knew the Crisis will come. Not sure what kind but I knew it will be soon. And they came... the prethoryn scourge. For mine luck this years of peace and prosperity gave me so much credits, science, unity and influence that I used smart. I detected that they would show themself in mine territory so I found one of the single hiperlane that they had to use and and build there powerfull fortress with some shipyards for quick repair. True it wasnt done before the first wave came but because I make sure every sector got at least on stargate and fleet I cound move mine all ships very fast. And soon all mine ships were ready in this place... Fleets of mine empire, fleets of mine federacion and even ships of Galactic Defense Force... with max titans and every type of fleet got their own Juggernaut... The Scourge never stood a chance because I locked them in systems without any habitable planet, if they wanted one they had to get throuth that mine fortress. This make sure if I need to I could easy make battle of attricion... And when they stopped attacking with their waves I counter-attack and killed last of them. With that I ended mine rule as custodian of the galaxy. That was a nice but hard game.
Purely for the story that the Unbidden came first followed by the Contigency. Although both have almost certainly attacked the galaxy before, it's not entirely clear when. It's certainly speculation that events happened in the order described, although perhaps one could call it educated speculation... From a gameplay perspective, you can select "all" regarding crisis, inwhich case they will appear in a random order, one after another.
@TheRedKing i play always with 2 min but almost never get it( also i am from console idk if the probabilities were changed through updates but we just got the 1st contact and galactic paragons dlc )
I'm with the holy guardians here. Their Jihad was one of compassion, they wanted to save the lives of trillions of sentients who were being killed on an industrial scale by their insane technocratic governments. That's certainly one of the better scenarios for an alien invasion.
All the people complaining about the "AI Art" (which isn't even AI) and also stuff like the story being boring/a ripoff or that your script is bad is so funny to me because this video is pretty cool, I didn't even know Stellaris had actual, non-random lore before watching lol
@@TheRedKing Ah, fair enough. I was able to enjoy both videos so I think you did a good job. Keep up the good work! You're (imo at least) easily the best stellaris youtuber rn. Your videos have made the game feel fresh for me, and answered a lot of my questions about the universe's lore.
@@TheRedKing yes, there is unbidden threat and there is contingency threat but no prethoryn just yet, I guess they still feed in neighboring Galaxy since Prethoryn is galactic traveler.
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"An old man wakes up. Another old man also wakes up. They saw each other, brings up some beef they had a decade ago, and then proceed to fight each other while dragging youngsters into the mess."
This is then followed Up by some in his prime navy seal who decided to beat both old men
Also the plot of Metal Gear Solid 4
thats what is called a fire
I think that's happen in our world now 😂
@@felixleong61 literally world war I
Warhammer 40k Fans: Hey, I've seen this one!
Stellaris Fans: Walt do you mean you've seen it? It's brand new!
@@darkraven5106 mist stellaris fan knows that the war in heaven in stellaris was inspired by warhammer 40k....
@@santashrek8368 it's a joke man, I'm not seriously saying Stellaris Fans don't know that.
It is inspired by Babylon 5.
Even the dialogue boxes contain the most iconic lines from the arc.
😂😂😂
@santashrek8368 it was inspired by the Shadow Vorlon war from B5 bruh 😐
I remember my last War in Heaven. I refused to join a side and was invited into the third option alliance. After way to freaking long, the alliance proved victorious, but my allies had... reservations about my version of total war. Less than a year after the war ended, I was forcibly kicked out of the alliance. A War in Heaven 2: Electric Boogaloo later and I was the only empire left standing. There will always be a place in my heart for the Alari Star Empire and their genocidal vengeance (modeled heavily off of the Romulan Star Empire in Star Trek)
Good god😂😂😂
I preferred previous non-aligned league version.
Why do i must to join in hurry-gathered federation of strangers to oppose Fallens in war in the heaven?
Before all of this you could join the League without disbanding your federation.
When 2 sides fight, it's the 3rd side who lies in wait, biding it's time who will emerge victorious.
I refused ALL of them, staying out of the war completely. Eventually the league of non aligned system won, so i ended up with a massive federation on my doorstep who didn't like me at all for watching the war from the sidelines.
@@justincarnes1656 what did they expect you to use to win the war, use harsh language? 🤨
I didnt even realize how eventful the War in Heaven was, so many things happened in that time, the war probably lasted a century or half a century. I also like how all of these events are tied together, actions have a reactions, God I love the stellaris lore.
As wars where I steamroll a large opponent can last half a century, I would guess a long struggle between empires lasts a lot longer.
Stellaris War in Heaven: 5 xeno empires fight because they can
Warhammer 40k war in heaven: *the gods are being threatened by one of the most powerful races ever known*
*The gods get stuffed into pokeballs
"Since the time of Zarqualan" was a nice touch.
Glad you liked it :)
Warhammer fan: Why does this sound so familiar?
Dune Fan: Yeah, it does found familiar
Babylon 5 fan: I think i have seen this before
Stellaris fan: What are you guys talking about, its a brand new event
Christians: Oh it happened already?
Aha, first time? No not my first time :) Sci fi does enjoy a good old war in heaven
Since I always play with Gigastructural Engineering and put the Fallen Empires at Max Power.
Whenever this happens I just sit back and let them literally throw planets and moons at each other.
And when they are sufficiently worn out I use my own Attack Moons and Behemoth Planetcraft that I had been building while the old fools were busy punching each other in the face.
To take both of the fallen empires out salvage their Celestial Fleets at a bargain and take out the rest of the Fallen Empires shortly after.
@@vi6ddarkking Gigastructural Engineering is such a great mod, it doesn’t get talked about enough.
@@dantar1383 It's literally the most popular and one of, if not, the best stellaris mod.
Giga(chad)structures
Gigastructures are insane by the sheer scale and power of it. Attack moons are like middle class gigastructures. The Quasi Stellar Obliterator literally erase an entire alien race from ever existing in any timeline in any dimension in any spiritual plane. A weapon to kill a chaos god
The GalCom passed a useful resolution against a crisis? Impossible! (Now I really want a mod to let us repair the Caretakers. If anyone deserves it, it's them.)
Thank you for yet another amazing video, our King!
Agreed!
A mod that allows more diplomacy options with the Fallen Empires would be great.
As for the Resolution:
They did so in my current game only after I consumed half of the largest map as a devowering entity.
If it wasn't for a co-player opening the L-Gates and me forgetting those where back doors....
Now I get to play the fun game of wack-a-mole!
I hope it's added as a feature one day! Needs to happen, we can build ringworlds and entire machine empires but not fix one?
Weirdly enough my most recent Galcom was really quick to pass a good resolution against the Crisis, instead the thing that's been a struggle is trying to keep the Galcom from making custodian term limits endless.
The military isolationists declared war on me when I had gotten three mega ships yards. I drowned them them in corvettes. For every ship they destroyed I had over twenty more closing in.
... This video was posted at the same time the War in Heaven was happening in my game. Damn, well done
I do my best :)
The GalCom actually did something? What a wonderful imagination you have!
I still want a set of events that you can repair the caretakers with. I mentioned it before but the rifts are actually a good way to create possibilities.
You can explore a rift where you find either the old caretakers or ones that were never crippled to be began with. Can make it a relic that you can give to the caretakers to reroute their central intelligence to a new location so they can rebuild.
That or allow cybrog/machine explores hack into and takeover the caretakers acting as their new central intelligence.
Nearly every story in stellaris has an end, the caretakers do not.
Agree, they need updating!
@@TheRedKingOr the ability for players to help the caretakers repair themselves
Idea.
Caretakers vs Isolationist Xenophobes.
Or Caretakers vs Looping Meta-Stable Exterminator (that stays endlessly looping and attacks no one in an endless 'fixing system')
I was a mega corp that just flooded the galactic markets crashing it causing the fallen empires to take over except for me cause I had the whole galactic economy making me take the whole galaxy
throwing money at the problem be like
This sounds like WarHammer 40k to me. I clicked on the video thinking it was 40k but i wasn't disappointed!
Happy to hear you enjoyed it :)
Well decadence is like a sweet poison, in small doses pleasant but ultimately deadly.
If they wake up again, I have only one thing to say: "Get the hell out of our galaxy"
Another excellent video, the crises of stellaris are my absolute favourites, seeing the fallen empires manipulate others as pawns in their wars is great and trying to do the league of non aligned powers feels genuinely so cool. Poor caretakers, I need to finish up my ck3 modding to make a mod to bring them back.
Thanks Ryan! I think FEs should be addressed in an update or dlc, they've not been changed for years and need some attention
Red King Gang lets goooooooooo, so glad that i can get my Stellaris lore and WH40K lore in the same place with the same level of quality narration and immersive story telling
I once faced a military alliance with 3 nations(lets call them the red alliance), they were 3 times bigger than me in terms of military and economy. They declared war on my egalitarian nation. The first war was fought in my territory. They attacked on all sides, lucky for me i they were very far from me and very incompetent in coordinating their attacks. A lot of my worlds got bombed, millions died. We slowly built our gateway network inside our territory to kick out and fend off the invaders. The war ended with the enemy not achieving any of its objectives.
But we all know that peace was temporary.
After several years of rebuilding their fleets, the red alliance attacked their neighbor, a spritiual nation(lets call them the purple nation), this nation though not as strong as me, was still strong enough to keep the red alliance preoccupied. I took this opportunity to wage a proxy war with the red alliance by providing the purple nation with all the resources that they needed, credits, minerals, a F ton of alloys, and rare minerals. It became an unending costly war for the red alliance, all while i was building up my military and economy.
When i learned that the red alliance was using a wormhole that was connected to a system to one of their member nations capital to invade purple nation, i immediately made plans for the second war. I leveraged my favor with the purple nation to open their borders to connect their gateway with us, built additional shipyards, accumulated enough resources for the upcoming war, expanded my resource storage, and maxed my naval capacity. In one instance, the galactic market was shocked as prices for resources sky rocketed as i spent my coffers to prepare for war, the galaxy knew a great war is coming. The plan was to go through purple nation and capture the wormhole the red alliance was using.
The Second War
I initiated the Second War against the Reds, my fleets jumped into purple nation, we destroyed all the red alliance's fleet inside purple nation and converged on the system bordering the wormhole. The enemy knew what was happening and hurriedly gathered their forces leaving their other fronts vulnerable to the point that purple nation was able to go on the offensive on these undefended systems.
My fleets then jumped on the system, a big and long battle ensued. The defending forces fought hard, they were still a strong opponent, multiple times when their reinforcements arrived they were able to outnumber my fleet in power by several thousands getting even with me, i had to churn out tons of ships to reinforce my fleets, my shipyards working 24/7, my resource reserves almost ran out, but ultimately we won the battle for the system. The enemy not being able to sustain their fleets fast enough stuck to defending their side of the wormhole, guarding it with their fleets and a fully upgraded fortress, they were now on the defensive. I hurriedly built a gateway inside the system. My forces are now with in striking distance against the red alliance. At this point of history, my economy and fleet power was at par with the red alliance, they knew i was bringing the war back to their lands.
The war ended, the purple nation got their territory back, the red alliance humiliated, and i got a forward base that i can use against the red alliance.
10 years later the war would erupt once more
This time i had the purple nation as an ally.
This war would be a sludge as most of the action would happen on the two wormhole system. It was not an easy one. We attacked first but was repelled due to their advantages. They went on the offensive thinking we were severely weakened on the attack, but was met by fierce resistance instead as we were able to send reinforcements quickly through the gateway. We replenished our forces and pushed once again, this time with the help of our purple ally. We also went above our naval max limit to add to our advantage. Slowly the enemy lost their numbers, their fortress weakened and slowly destroyed, the enemy couldn't replace the ships that they are losing, while on our side we still had reserves and were pumping ships every week and every month.
The system eventually fell to our control
The enemy didn't know what to do as their capital region was open and vulnerable. They gathered what they had on their capital system, and held it for a one last stand. Purple would go deep into enemy territory to shut down a good chunk of their economy while i face them in their capital for a one last fight. It was a one sided fight then on. We made sure that they no longer have the capacity to raise fleets that could rival ours, we bombed their planets, destroyed their shipyards, their mining and research stations, and fortresses
At one point of history they we're the ones bombing our planets and our cities, now it was the other way around. Where once stood mighty industries of war, now lie in ruins. Fortresses destroyed, full of dead bodies. Their armies formless. Their fleets, now a debri in space
This member nation would get kicked out of the red alliance soon and would fall into disarray as local rebellions cannibalize the nation from the inside.
As for the rest of the red alliance, I wouldn't stop until they were destroyed, until they could no longer pose a threat to my nation's peace and security.
The Red Alliance would fall 20 years later
@@cooley987 This was amazing to read.
@@mikefarenheit8917 hehehe thanks 😁
I've only encountered the war in heaven once, but by then, my tech level and armies were so turbo maxed that i decided to end the fight within 1 month and defeated all fallen empires
I just destroyed all the Fallen empires in my Galaxy before they even think of waking up. I am the crisis
only thing I hate about war in heaven is when the enemy FE AI hard focuses on you the player and doesn't care about being outrunned in their home worlds or even get decimated by end game crises
I love the fact that, if you think about, every match is a galaxy that can pass the same thing one more time like always, I mean, you´re always playing, how you know how many wars and spaceships did this galaxy you´re currently living on have presenced? It's unique.
It is so Ironic that a machine empire is the only one that I feel sad for... i want to help them so badly regain their former state.
i wish that one day you'll be able to help the caretakers, it is a shame to see their lack of efficiency in processing and calculation, if they let their fellow synthetics to allow us to aid them in repairs, even few organics we keep trying to give aid, but to no advail, we will grow stronger to defend our fellow servitor, until then we hope that they can last a little longer without major aid, we made sure to share our resorces with our fellow machines, we hope that one day we can repair then and return them to their glory,
Same!
I think they have enough experience to know no one can be trusted with that task (organic or not).
And they probable have slow repair plan which just takes millenia (not an issue for them)
imagine if the Christmas Star event from Earth was really the Supernova explosion of the Caretakers central core.
C'tan + Necrons vs Old Ones + Aeldari and Prime Orks
Aren't they the kroks?
@@christophebedouret9813 yup, I meant Krork, thanks
The war in Heaven, also known as two or more saggy ass empires try to reclaim the galaxy after I left them a single 16 pop planet each during the peace negotiations
i mentioned this on another video's comment section, the unbidden fleet seem to mention some throne alot, the riftworld origin that lets you explore rifts, seems to also reference it once you get to the center of the galaxy via the rifts, where you find an entity that looks like one of the unbidden, except he's trying to hide the throne, so the 'children' dont get it, and he's also capable of working with your empire if you dont try to ask it for the location of the throne
ruclips.net/video/Z4GV2txM9eU/видео.html - I got you :)
Now I have a lot of respect for the holy worlds which may or may not have existed before ive seen this.
Xenophobes see an idyllic pacifist empire and be like: "They're just turtling there... *menacingly*!"
The War in Heaven is the thing the fallen empires started while I was preparing to fight the Contingency That save file is now deleted as it was unsalvagable.
The fallen empires did something similar except for the conducted experiments that fryed all of my worlds because they increase the speed of light somehow...
I can't even support my military, we have failed the Galaxy, we have failed our own kind, nothing remains but ashes
The thrax eldor have fallen and with us all hope...
Not even the gods can save us now...
That's why I Tech Rush so I can go and wipe out at least 1 of the Fallen Empires to get their tech. Then I whoop the ish out em.
@@TheAgent0060 Context - I had already fought and destroyed both Determined Exterminators and Fanatic Purifiers before having no time to recover as the first Fallen Empire woke up and declared on me resulting in a 5 year war on top of the 2 wars that lasted a total 7 years. Then I had to fight one of my vassals robot rebellions and ended white peacing after 1 1/2 years with my vassal loosing 10% of their territory. I had 0 time to fully recover my navy or my economy.
Am I the only one who immediately wants to start a new Stellaris game after each of the extremely well crafted & well delivered narratives?
Happy gaming :)
Now I feel like a tool for seeing Gaia worlds and fallen empires as loot boxes.
@17:22 I see what you did there... a sublte nod to "They are Coming".
Oh they did.... and then, _so did I_
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In my current playthrough: I became galactic emperor, things are good, Two fallen empires declare war in heaven against me and the entire galaxy, things are not good.
This reminds me of your XT-489 video. Which i think is my favourite of yours. I still think about the ending often.
Perhaps if they one day update the FEs it could become canon! We can dream :)
Talking about the Fallen Empires and the Caretakers, I think actually it would be a great idea for a mod about trying to rebuild the caretaker's core as a Rogue Servitor/Pacifist/Xenophile Empire with special digsites near to it or some sort of astral events because why not? and finally expanding the Fallen Empire's ability to engage in diplomacy with other empires other than being in full isolation especially when they awaken because my god even at Awaken they can't do ANYTHING other than go to war and subjugate, i know that is the intended thing but man... Imagine if they could Join the Gal Com and actually do something especially the Xenophile Fallen Empire.
Either the two, it would be interesting for a alternate ending for the Caretaker's existence where they are fully fix and becomes a functional advance rogue servitors other than exploding at the end of a contingency invasion 2.0.
I always think they leave the galaxy or shutdown after the contingency is dealt with, that is if they awake to fight it.
Cosmogenesis VS War in Heaven VS 25x Contingency VS grand admiral AI is what's happening right now in my game and it's crazy!
Awakened empires are going crazy on everyone with their 500k fleets while cyberex and I (cosmog) are fighting a contingency with fleets that have 5.6 million to 14.6 million fleet power
I remember when the galaxy I had reached crisis year and the Materialists woke up. They started what I could only call and argument with me, the imperial council, and the Awakened empire. At some point the Unbidden breached in and we collectively smacked them back out, and continued our argument.
@@casartherandom3010 ahh you're lucky! In the game before this one I got bullied by materials FE in 3 wars, and when I became stronger then them, they INVITED their spiritualist rivals to fight me, but I won that one, and later the spiritualist FE invited me to a war against an evil federation. This game can be really fun sometimes
@@irkenempire2849 I recently did the Cosmogenesis Crisis line...the Fallen Empires hated me. They kept trying to declare war on me, so I declared total war on the Xenophobes, killed them all, and then turned around, dealing with the punitive war from the spiritualist and then destroying the Materialists. After that, the other three left me well enough alone while I made my choice.
@@casartherandom3010 it was similar here, but since I did Montu's unity through trade, megacorp, virtual ascension rush I reached Cosmogenesis with some 40 pops around 2250 but even with a crazy powerful economy and 6k research I rushed it just too quickly where I had to accept a humiliation demand or I'd lose lots of fleets and alloys for nothing over and over even if I was making 2000 alloys before mid game.
@@irkenempire2849 I did the same thing as well expect the game ended at 2375 with me ended 2 fallen empire tho i could ended it more early just because they give me 100 years of humiliation
i REALLY REAAAAAAAAAALLLY want a dlc that focuses on the fallen empires-
i wanna be able to have the possibility to become an awakened empire/galactic ascendancy like in Zenith of fallen empires
I suspect they'll do it one day, it would be huge.
If I remember correctly, certain fallen empire events are a lot darker when you use the console to view their perspective on things.
Like the scientist one...
Tsk Tsk, someone stole my tactic.
Cloaked ship, Star Eater Weapon, and a Jump Drive....
Who needs armies and fleets, when the non-players forget to protect their suns?
Always a good day when the lore king uploads :D
Love the deep lore and the format you put it in. Helped me tie together lots of the odd things I have seen in my few play throughs of the game
Happy to hear it
Can't wait for the next DLC, the Grand Archive, to see if they have any interesting galactic lore discover. Specially with the reported 15 NEW RELICS added and the expansion to the Curator Order.
19:49 And that's when the Prethoryn Scourge attacked!
i tapped on the video thinking this is the war in heaven of WH40K lol
So it exceeded expectations then!
@@TheRedKing great video either way
The hive will observe the madness
Enjoy!
Me defeating fallen empires with mutated space cows:
Man, i thought you were gone, have the bell notification and haven't gotten anything in a month. On the brightside, a good binge watching session is always nice.
I'm still here!! Enjoy the binge
100% they need to bring in some new Fallen Empires - love these lore videos!
Id love to see a MechWarrior and Stellaris collab on a game or DLC
I'm pretty sure the war in heaven happened in a different cannon all together.... one where there is only war.....
Babylon 5? Or Doom?
I got here from 40k lore vids, was confused at first but actually it's quite interesting
Stellaris lore has some crossovers, it's good stuff! Hope you enjoy :)
There is nothing you could do against the isolationists that could be considered in any way a crime. They have done so to others, and so they forfeited the privilege not to have it wrought against them.
Greetings Red King, great video as always, but I have a theory I thought you might like(unrelated to the subject)
What is the hyperplane network was in some way tied to organic life? It would explain why all empires are connected, the abundance of habitable worlds and the lack of stars in the galaxy. Would love to hear your opinion on this
I believe the hyperlanes were built by someone/something, but sadly there is nothing in the game about it beyond the CoM origin story as far as i'm aware
Robots with cancer vs Frogmen.
I tought this was gona be a 40k video until i reed stelaris lore
We, the Massinids see the brewing conflict and will download this knowledge to upgrade our current military capacity for the coming war.
We urge all nations to join us and pacify these awakening fallen empires.
your content is fire!
Thanks!! Glad you're enjoying it!
An easy summary is Homer Simpson's father and Chester at the table during the holidays and then one wakes up like "I thought I recognized you." The rest is fists😂
So basically it was Starfleet vs. The Imperium?
I lucked out my last war in heaven. My trade federation had the north half of the galaxy, so when I went 3rd party everyone else flocked to our side. We killed the isolationists first and then lived long enough for cetana to start fucking around.
0:21 AAAZZZZZMMMMOOODDDAAAAIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!
For a more detailed lore for the War in the Heaven, watch Babylon 5
That is why we have galactic voids.
All that technology........in a Galaxy far away. For earth. far away is Fiji.
I need this event so bad. I want its achievement.
when I grow up, I want to be someone who is commandeering our fleets against a war in heaven (if one happens)!
I'm torn between wishing you luck, but also don't really fancy being in an interstellar war with aliens
@@TheRedKing but the fireworks!!!! 😁
0:23 the necrons, kroks, c'tan, old ones and eldar
I love the war in heaven or atleast the concept because I’ve only had one and the league wouldn’t fall apart after we won so it essentially became the galactic council/ un before that was a part of the game. No one would ever vote to kick anyone out. Still that war was Amazing Materalist Vs Spiritualists with most AI using starwars ships and bordered the Materialists so I had to fight them alone while the rest focused on the stronger spiritualists. Then as my 1mil fleet took on the Materialists 1mil and I started to loose the rest of the league showed up 2m vs 1m the materialists ended up, essentially surviving that war because they had new ships and I figured it was better to just wipe out the spiritualists take their colonies and then use them to kill the remaining materialists. It was great.
IS THIS A 40k REFERENCE
NO
WELL MAYBE
Straight up warhammer 40k lmao
@The Red King ... love your vids My Lord ...have you done a Vid about the Observers?
Observers?
I thought it was something about a 40k mod for stellaris
war in heaven very unique name never done before lol
The war in heaven is basically the fight in family guy between Herbert and the Nazi
Its almost funny how big bads are always sealed away in all these stories.... Almost like they want them to eventually return.
What is the name of the song that starts at 16:40? I can't find it anywhere.
uppbeat.io/track/moire/laniakea
This makes me think of Warhammer
The way I've explained how the fallen empires is that the major world powers (America, China, Russia, Britain, and India) all reduced their territory by a lot after a giant world ending war, but holding a very small part of land, not leaving, and enjoying life in splendor and being apathetic to the new governments popping up, being so much stronger.
Song artist/title? "Music from Uppbeat" is incredibly vague - there are thousands of titles.
If you tell me the timepoint of the video I'll go and check which track I used, as there are several in this video.
@@TheRedKing The one rolling @1:55
@@CarterBlackburn 00:00 to 8:50 is uppbeat.io/track/ambient-boy/black-leaves
@@TheRedKing Thank you sir, you are heroic! Very few content creators respond to comments like this, it's much appreciated.
@@TheRedKing Maybe consider putting all tracks/artists in the description? Just a suggestion.
War in Heaven Lore Rework
Big E: Cowabunga it is!
I remember mine first war in heaven. Mine empire was a Void Dwellers Mega Corp with focus on equality, pacifism and little bit xenophobic but more in the isolation kind of way. Mine empire focused on friendly trading with other empires and tried to stay away from any conflict but they still got some nice fleets for the purpuse of having army on standby. After some time while mine empire make some nice relations with other one I made federacion Trade League. It got his ups and down because many of mine alies didnt like each other much. That make them into the loop of insulting each other and me because "Im friend with their enemy" and many of mine federacion members tried to make war with their enemy what I just declined every time what make them not happy. Still the uneasy peace standed. When the galactic community became in life I became one of the main member of the council. When the new war in heaven started between 2 fallen empires and asked for stand on some of the sides I choose none and changed mine federacion to a League of Non-Aligned Powers and used mine power in council to convince galactic community by "Denouncing Both Awakened Empires" and to stand with me what they did. Only 2 lessers empires didnt join. Because I got many habitats and mine population was high and was a follower of the rule "If You Want Peace, Prepare for War" mine fleets were ready... With that I even started going with the Galactic Custodian but that was only for bonuses in this hard times. Mine fleets were split into 3 squads. 2 of them were focused on defending Awaked Empire attacking fleets and hold them with mine allies while the 3rd squad was the offensive one. It went to enemy systems and if the they could even the one of 2 squads joined them. When I defeated them with the help of mine allies... war in heaven ended and because most of empires were in mine League their atteps to create another little war between empires also ended... With the League of Non-Aligned Powers I brought peace to galaxy but it was still not enought. I knew the Crisis will come. Not sure what kind but I knew it will be soon. And they came... the prethoryn scourge. For mine luck this years of peace and prosperity gave me so much credits, science, unity and influence that I used smart. I detected that they would show themself in mine territory so I found one of the single hiperlane that they had to use and and build there powerfull fortress with some shipyards for quick repair. True it wasnt done before the first wave came but because I make sure every sector got at least on stargate and fleet I cound move mine all ships very fast. And soon all mine ships were ready in this place... Fleets of mine empire, fleets of mine federacion and even ships of Galactic Defense Force... with max titans and every type of fleet got their own Juggernaut... The Scourge never stood a chance because I locked them in systems without any habitable planet, if they wanted one they had to get throuth that mine fortress. This make sure if I need to I could easy make battle of attricion... And when they stopped attacking with their waves I counter-attack and killed last of them. With that I ended mine rule as custodian of the galaxy. That was a nice but hard game.
So are the crisis' sequential in time then? or was that just for the story purpose that the unbidden came then the contingency awoke right after.
Purely for the story that the Unbidden came first followed by the Contigency. Although both have almost certainly attacked the galaxy before, it's not entirely clear when. It's certainly speculation that events happened in the order described, although perhaps one could call it educated speculation... From a gameplay perspective, you can select "all" regarding crisis, inwhich case they will appear in a random order, one after another.
2 days till update
The war in heaven was a war that happend 60 milli- oh wrong franchise
I wish they added a feature to force this to happen,i only got it once and literally the next day the file got corrupted xd
It's quite common if you play with more than 2 FEs in my experience
@TheRedKing i play always with 2 min but almost never get it( also i am from console idk if the probabilities were changed through updates but we just got the 1st contact and galactic paragons dlc )
Yo the lore is wild i knew none of this
I'm with the holy guardians here. Their Jihad was one of compassion, they wanted to save the lives of trillions of sentients who were being killed on an industrial scale by their insane technocratic governments. That's certainly one of the better scenarios for an alien invasion.
There you have it! See how "fanatic pacifism" always leads to suffering? Yet more proof that this is not the way.
All the people complaining about the "AI Art" (which isn't even AI) and also stuff like the story being boring/a ripoff or that your script is bad is so funny to me because this video is pretty cool, I didn't even know Stellaris had actual, non-random lore before watching lol
Isolationist attacking people who dont want war called Keepers. So Guardians rally some worlds declare war on Isolationist, who get locked up?? haha
If this happens in my game, I always just alt+f4, rage quit, and start a new game.
Did you reuse parts of your "History of the Fallen Empires" script?
Yes, I felt I made some mistakes with that one I wanted to tidy up a bit
@@TheRedKing Ah, fair enough. I was able to enjoy both videos so I think you did a good job. Keep up the good work! You're (imo at least) easily the best stellaris youtuber rn. Your videos have made the game feel fresh for me, and answered a lot of my questions about the universe's lore.
There aren’t any necrons here
The galactic dwarven empire doesn't care
One thing missing is Pretoryn
From the War In Heaven?
@@TheRedKing yes, there is unbidden threat and there is contingency threat but no prethoryn just yet, I guess they still feed in neighboring Galaxy since Prethoryn is galactic traveler.
Epic story