@montuplays There's actually 3 different Ytterite items you can get. The Preserved Corpse: Gives +40 Engineering research. The Kaleidoscope Fascinator: +10 Amenities. And the Royal Scepter: +20 Edict fund. You also get unique dialogues with the Letters of Marque Civic, you also can't imprison Ness.
Small additional note, there is a chance that one of your recruited leaders is a black needle plant that you can find if you pick the "root out the saboteurs" option. And depending on your choices can end up a boon. Either by throwing them in jail, executing them, or offering lenience. All three options give you a boon.
@@bizmasterTheSlav I think it varies, I got some science, some coins, a few minor artifacts, and some unity. The scientist also got a trait that made her a better explorer.
Boarding Cables are also broken AF currently. Things people have apparently been able to steal: Cetana's Collossus Enclaves The Dragon from the "Here be dragons" origin Infinity Machine Contingency ships So far nobody has managed to capture the End of the Cycle, Horizon Needle or Asteroids, who knows if you can or not.
the image of an ancient machine leader with an infinite legion of nanomachines loosing to a bunch of boarders LARPing as pirates is just something else
I always enjoyed the early game discovery rush with science ships and trying to stack as many Anomalies as possible. Archaeology was a nice expansion of that aspect of the game. Treasure hunting is the perfect way to add even more story detail and allow for outcomes that are more interesting and varied than just income/percentage buffs.
*THIS ORIGIN APPEARS TO BE BROKEN......* I started this origin path as a Hive Mind, since my leaders are basically immortal anyways, and about 30 years into the game I vanquished a Devouring Swarm. I was assimilating their pops and moving everyone back to my system's planets. When I invaded their last world and the war ended, I suddenly became a Devouring Swarm. Later when I vanquished another hive mind empire, I suddenly changed into a Progenitor Hive upon finishing their last world. I was then able to release sectors as fully fledged vassals. Next, I finished off a clone empire and suddenly my pop assembly speed went through the roof, over 20 pop assembly a month. I was playing with no mods, plain vanilla plus DLCs. What tf happened here???
@@tbotalpha8133 I still don't know exactly what happened here, but upon investigating the log files, I have managed to figure one thing out. Upon killing an empire, my empire was getting a progressive tick. This tick was only changing one variable associated with the empire's origin, the numerical identifier for hive minds (1 = normal hive, 2 = devouring swarm, 3 = progenitor, 4 = ???). When set to 4, the empire gains max level pop assembly for some reason. After testing, when set to 5 or higher, the empire appears to gain random benefits/attributes. My guess is there is a function somewhere that accounts for this empire identifier and applies modifiers based on its value.
@@radaro.9682 Imagine suddenly becoming a Progenitor Hive and not being able to build offspring ships/buildings.....your empire immediately starts dying.
I did machine race with gestalt and treasure hoarder. Statecraft for the 150xp with agendas. Got to rank 3 on that trait asap. My space based resources were crazy. Add on the grand archive civic and the edict you get there.
@montuplays hey you missed the exceptionaly wonderous bit about this origin. the only condition that you cannot take this origin with is a "Geonocidal Empire", meaning gestalt leaders are immortal and can also benefit from the starting traits without messing with ascension paths and hoping you get lucky. meaning, the age of computational corsairs is now!
I am enjoying the treasure hunter origin but I hate the fact that is so limited with storage. The 9 active is fine but you should be able to swap treasures not be forced to sell to free up a slot. Also 4 slots for storage sucks imo. What's the point of all that flavor text if it auto sells when your over the limit. Plus the trait treaurehoarder is as it says. Why can't we hoard the treasure.
Here's the nuances I've noticed playing this origin. I'd like to preface my experience by saying I played solo and played "less than honest" because I wanted to see the story the first go around. The first time I played I stayed in my home system. Playing with debug makes up for the expansion I missed out on. The first added system spawned two jumps away and the subsequent added systems added were directly linked to my home system. On my second play, an honest play, I went wide. First added system still spawned a couple jumps away but the rest spawned at "the edge" of my territory when the event was triggered. My third and most recent play I did so tall and with the intent to only use what was needed system wise. I forget the name of the new civic that allows you to get unity for new artifacts but I used that for acces to the artifact tradition tree right off. First system added system spawned a couple of jumps away (I believe this is hard coded at this point). I remained in my home system till the second system spawned, it linked to my home world and took ownership of the system. The third added system branched from the 2nd system and I again took ownership of it. The 3rd system did the same and had the same result. The only "correction" I have is if you took the coward's way out you are simply kicked from the final system. The pirates do their thing and leave so you'll still have access to the system, just none of the goodies.
the last fight has 60 Cruisers with Hangars and some other weapons I don't remember, NOT corvettes! I found beating them with Hangar/KA Cruisers was easiest (and those are good anyway with the 30% sublight speed from the leader)
Now that I think about it, would be there a specimen tier list? Given how many of them there are I don't envy poor Montu if he decides to go for it. On another note, Paradox really need to do some Origin and Civics descriptions justice because they hide a great deal of things
A warning about the quest chain: if instead of attacking the worm gateway you use the new gravity lures and just abduct them, I ran into an issue where I couldn’t get the event to progress because there was nothing to fight.
Boarding cables are honestly simply insane. Imagine if you steal a COLOSSUS with that thing. Or something modded, like KAISER'S MOON. This auxiliary module is, perhaps, the most powerful one in the game by far. It's basically necrophage defensive army conversion BUT with actual fleets.
I played all the way through that origin, same way as in this video, but didn't get any sabotage situation. A few more pirates formed, with an event text with reference to the Black Needle, but those pirates were the normal weak ones. Lucky me I guess.
If there was such a thing as reading "too much" Discworld, I'd apparently be guilty of it, because when you talk about pieces of eight, I can only think of a cockatoo squaking, "twelve and a half percent! Twelve and a half percent!"
I as somebody who plays with achievements enabled I got Relic Hunter from this origin with ease as I got lucky with getting a few dig sites next to me for the other three.
With the amount of relics increasing, it's becoming easier, not that it's a bad thing. If you keep filling your museum, you can straight up buy 3 relics from the curators.
Wow, didn't expect to have so much space pirating. I was expecting a more indiana jones approach of just collecting specimens, rather than being able to be a space pirate. Finally I will be able to do a flavorful corsair voidscarred empire
I've always thought it would be cool to have boarding parties in the game, but they are inherently problematic due to lack of fine ship control, both to evade and complete capture. Locking it within an origin that sounds really powerful already seems like the best way to go. Much more for roleplay and laughs than serious competition.
That Tresure hoarder seem really nice! Especially if you don't care about keeping your leader alive for as long, since this one will shine in the early game!
Can u make a comparison video between Stellaris and Endless space 1. I really love the idea of Stellaris, but all of my planets die out in the endgame because I can not build them optimally. That "planet improvement system" is something I really loved about endless space 1, it made the game quite easy, and also I never had problems with the management of population, like in Stellaris.
No one seems to have twigged to the MIND BOGGLING trade value you can get from treasure hunters origin. Put it this way. +420% trade value: you can guarentee reaching this number. If RNGESUS loves you, could get that to like +500% although it got ridiculous WAAAAAY before 500%.
I'd be intrigued by a run that abuses selling the chart. Make an entire planet that builds nothing but resource storages, put a storage on every starbase. Get like 1 million credits from the sell and never worry about energy again XD
So I did this, I got to the disabled gateway, and cannot repair it. Ibhabe the tech researched, but the button to research "activate the gateway" is not selectable. Did you ever have this issue?
Hah was faster than this video! ... but I still need the Storm Achievements hmpfl.. currently run is promising though! I really thought that I had a balst with the Treasure Hunters or it was just luck. My Playthrough was very nice. The Endfleet defeated me 2 times though, but with some techs more I got them. They were faster and very good at kiting my ships ^^ Odd, the first fleet did not charge towards my capital :o
0:30 lmao, don't i know it. This is how i bricked my first playthrough of treasure hunters. I was having a shit time with game not giving me ships for research so i was literally at frigates with no swarmers or disruptors (because again, game being a bitch and not wanting me to get ship stuff) and i got to a point where one enemy cruiser was literally just going through my systems and killing my fleet
Playing this, exploring around pretty hard and fast, found like…. Zero archaeology sites, despite having as many increased chances to find them as possible. Good times. Also, does the chance to double planet resource deposits trait even work? Because I swear nothing looks higher than the normal.
You forgot to mention something and the TRUE power of this origin. You mentioned it, but didn't go into detail. The boarding cable Aux slots are the best aux slot in the game bar none. They can let you steal ANYTHING. From enclaves, to asteroids, to Centera's mothership! And it works on modded stuff too like a systemcraft, the kaiser moon, or the blokkat vester. ITs assumed this'll be fixed on the 14th, but for now, you can steal major crisis motherships with them!
Being rushed by a big fleet right at the start of the game is quite unfair. What happens if you lose your homeworld - Does the fleet continue to bombard your other planets, does it just stays there oris there a option to give the artefact away?
You can run whatever you would like with the origin in terms of civics/ethics /government authority! I was showing off what it did more than anything else
Definitely not a good origin to pick in an Ironman run when you don't know what's coming. Learned that the hard way lol. I'm honestly suprised by how good both new origins in this DLC are. Primal Calling casually giving a hivemind 300 naval cap, 40% research speed, and a global 40 amenities for free is just hilarious.
2 thing, you forget to tell that the planet with the event have special modifier for each and second i wonders what hivemind have if they cant have a council position
@montuplays There's actually 3 different Ytterite items you can get. The Preserved Corpse: Gives +40 Engineering research. The Kaleidoscope Fascinator: +10 Amenities. And the Royal Scepter: +20 Edict fund.
You also get unique dialogues with the Letters of Marque Civic, you also can't imprison Ness.
Letters of Marque was going to be my first playthrough with this civic
The trazyn simulator we all needed
Small additional note, there is a chance that one of your recruited leaders is a black needle plant that you can find if you pick the "root out the saboteurs" option. And depending on your choices can end up a boon. Either by throwing them in jail, executing them, or offering lenience. All three options give you a boon.
what boon exactly
@@bizmasterTheSlav I think it varies, I got some science, some coins, a few minor artifacts, and some unity. The scientist also got a trait that made her a better explorer.
I recently played with this origin and this traitor was renowned paragon Borin. That was definitely a surprise
One of the most amazing and underrated movies of all time.
Came to say the same thing.
Wow, can't believe you made a video about booty.
Boarding Cables are also broken AF currently. Things people have apparently been able to steal:
Cetana's Collossus
Enclaves
The Dragon from the "Here be dragons" origin
Infinity Machine
Contingency ships
So far nobody has managed to capture the End of the Cycle, Horizon Needle or Asteroids, who knows if you can or not.
i swear if they patch this out i'm going to be so mad.
the image of an ancient machine leader with an infinite legion of nanomachines loosing to a bunch of boarders LARPing as pirates is just something else
Damn that's enticing to hear. Stealing not only the dragon but also Cetanna's colossus??
"Nice dragon you have there.
Would be a shame if something happened to it ... "
Cracking up at the idea of hijacking the Horizon Needle, after the empire that owns it has already embarked their entire population into it.
“Argh, ye space mateys!”
I always enjoyed the early game discovery rush with science ships and trying to stack as many Anomalies as possible. Archaeology was a nice expansion of that aspect of the game. Treasure hunting is the perfect way to add even more story detail and allow for outcomes that are more interesting and varied than just income/percentage buffs.
*THIS ORIGIN APPEARS TO BE BROKEN......*
I started this origin path as a Hive Mind, since my leaders are basically immortal anyways, and about 30 years into the game I vanquished a Devouring Swarm. I was assimilating their pops and moving everyone back to my system's planets. When I invaded their last world and the war ended, I suddenly became a Devouring Swarm. Later when I vanquished another hive mind empire, I suddenly changed into a Progenitor Hive upon finishing their last world. I was then able to release sectors as fully fledged vassals. Next, I finished off a clone empire and suddenly my pop assembly speed went through the roof, over 20 pop assembly a month. I was playing with no mods, plain vanilla plus DLCs. What tf happened here???
That's hilarious.
@@tbotalpha8133 I still don't know exactly what happened here, but upon investigating the log files, I have managed to figure one thing out. Upon killing an empire, my empire was getting a progressive tick. This tick was only changing one variable associated with the empire's origin, the numerical identifier for hive minds (1 = normal hive, 2 = devouring swarm, 3 = progenitor, 4 = ???). When set to 4, the empire gains max level pop assembly for some reason. After testing, when set to 5 or higher, the empire appears to gain random benefits/attributes. My guess is there is a function somewhere that accounts for this empire identifier and applies modifiers based on its value.
That doesn't sound broken at all. Being able to predict the changes and manipulate them sounds awesome.
@@radaro.9682 Imagine suddenly becoming a Progenitor Hive and not being able to build offspring ships/buildings.....your empire immediately starts dying.
I believe you just said this is the best origin ever!
I did machine race with gestalt and treasure hoarder. Statecraft for the 150xp with agendas. Got to rank 3 on that trait asap. My space based resources were crazy. Add on the grand archive civic and the edict you get there.
Honestly, a surprisingly good origin if played right.
@montuplays hey you missed the exceptionaly wonderous bit about this origin. the only condition that you cannot take this origin with is a "Geonocidal Empire", meaning gestalt leaders are immortal and can also benefit from the starting traits without messing with ascension paths and hoping you get lucky. meaning, the age of computational corsairs is now!
Huh, Red King had this with Avians. Nice to see the Avians actually had extra fluff concenring the Avian pirate in the first system.
I am enjoying the treasure hunter origin but I hate the fact that is so limited with storage. The 9 active is fine but you should be able to swap treasures not be forced to sell to free up a slot. Also 4 slots for storage sucks imo. What's the point of all that flavor text if it auto sells when your over the limit. Plus the trait treaurehoarder is as it says. Why can't we hoard the treasure.
Here's the nuances I've noticed playing this origin. I'd like to preface my experience by saying I played solo and played "less than honest" because I wanted to see the story the first go around.
The first time I played I stayed in my home system. Playing with debug makes up for the expansion I missed out on. The first added system spawned two jumps away and the subsequent added systems added were directly linked to my home system.
On my second play, an honest play, I went wide. First added system still spawned a couple jumps away but the rest spawned at "the edge" of my territory when the event was triggered.
My third and most recent play I did so tall and with the intent to only use what was needed system wise. I forget the name of the new civic that allows you to get unity for new artifacts but I used that for acces to the artifact tradition tree right off. First system added system spawned a couple of jumps away (I believe this is hard coded at this point). I remained in my home system till the second system spawned, it linked to my home world and took ownership of the system. The third added system branched from the 2nd system and I again took ownership of it. The 3rd system did the same and had the same result.
The only "correction" I have is if you took the coward's way out you are simply kicked from the final system. The pirates do their thing and leave so you'll still have access to the system, just none of the goodies.
the last fight has 60 Cruisers with Hangars and some other weapons I don't remember, NOT corvettes! I found beating them with Hangar/KA Cruisers was easiest (and those are good anyway with the 30% sublight speed from the leader)
@@asudhdhabei1051 iirc they're called 'cruisers' but they play like Corvettes (except for the loadout)
That's really neat and so far I've been enjoying Grand Archive already!
Now that I think about it, would be there a specimen tier list? Given how many of them there are I don't envy poor Montu if he decides to go for it.
On another note, Paradox really need to do some Origin and Civics descriptions justice because they hide a great deal of things
Give me my letters of marque civic and set sails. It's time for the pirate haven playthrough!
Well it certainly looks great
I tried this one. Had no idea about the large fleets. They were kind enough to chill while I built a fleet over decades (each time) to crush them.
11:00 deploy the Ursus Claws!
i just saw this on the screen and dismissed it out of hand.
now i'm going top try it out
thanks
A warning about the quest chain: if instead of attacking the worm gateway you use the new gravity lures and just abduct them, I ran into an issue where I couldn’t get the event to progress because there was nothing to fight.
Boarding cables are honestly simply insane. Imagine if you steal a COLOSSUS with that thing. Or something modded, like KAISER'S MOON.
This auxiliary module is, perhaps, the most powerful one in the game by far. It's basically necrophage defensive army conversion BUT with actual fleets.
Make your leader a commander and pick distinguished admiralty and you'll get your trailer blazer feat to level 3 as soon as you start the game
I played all the way through that origin, same way as in this video, but didn't get any sabotage situation. A few more pirates formed, with an event text with reference to the Black Needle, but those pirates were the normal weak ones. Lucky me I guess.
Thank for your great work!!
If there was such a thing as reading "too much" Discworld, I'd apparently be guilty of it, because when you talk about pieces of eight, I can only think of a cockatoo squaking, "twelve and a half percent! Twelve and a half percent!"
I as somebody who plays with achievements enabled I got Relic Hunter from this origin with ease as I got lucky with getting a few dig sites next to me for the other three.
With the amount of relics increasing, it's becoming easier, not that it's a bad thing.
If you keep filling your museum, you can straight up buy 3 relics from the curators.
Wow, didn't expect to have so much space pirating. I was expecting a more indiana jones approach of just collecting specimens, rather than being able to be a space pirate. Finally I will be able to do a flavorful corsair voidscarred empire
I've always thought it would be cool to have boarding parties in the game, but they are inherently problematic due to lack of fine ship control, both to evade and complete capture. Locking it within an origin that sounds really powerful already seems like the best way to go. Much more for roleplay and laughs than serious competition.
That Tresure hoarder seem really nice! Especially if you don't care about keeping your leader alive for as long, since this one will shine in the early game!
Can u make a comparison video between Stellaris and Endless space 1. I really love the idea of Stellaris, but all of my planets die out in the endgame because I can not build them optimally. That "planet improvement system" is something I really loved about endless space 1, it made the game quite easy, and also I never had problems with the management of population, like in Stellaris.
Those new ships are SpaceHulks.
No one seems to have twigged to the MIND BOGGLING trade value you can get from treasure hunters origin. Put it this way.
+420% trade value: you can guarentee reaching this number. If RNGESUS loves you, could get that to like +500% although it got ridiculous WAAAAAY before 500%.
I'd be intrigued by a run that abuses selling the chart. Make an entire planet that builds nothing but resource storages, put a storage on every starbase. Get like 1 million credits from the sell and never worry about energy again XD
Whoever made this orgin was like Dj Khalid "another one."
So I did this, I got to the disabled gateway, and cannot repair it. Ibhabe the tech researched, but the button to research "activate the gateway" is not selectable. Did you ever have this issue?
After gateway tech reaserch check megasctructures tab on right and rapair this by clicking on icon. Only seems like bug but it isnt. Sorry for english
Hah was faster than this video! ... but I still need the Storm Achievements hmpfl.. currently run is promising though!
I really thought that I had a balst with the Treasure Hunters or it was just luck. My Playthrough was very nice. The Endfleet defeated me 2 times though, but with some techs more I got them. They were faster and very good at kiting my ships ^^
Odd, the first fleet did not charge towards my capital :o
Would other empires be able to get the boarding cables tech without the treasure hunter origin?
Can you put boarding cables on space fauna ships?????
I think you forgot to show what the Sword specimen does.
Oh I think you're right, we didn't talk about it. It was on screen! Check out near the end, in the last chapter
0:30 lmao, don't i know it. This is how i bricked my first playthrough of treasure hunters. I was having a shit time with game not giving me ships for research so i was literally at frigates with no swarmers or disruptors (because again, game being a bitch and not wanting me to get ship stuff) and i got to a point where one enemy cruiser was literally just going through my systems and killing my fleet
Playing this, exploring around pretty hard and fast, found like…. Zero archaeology sites, despite having as many increased chances to find them as possible. Good times.
Also, does the chance to double planet resource deposits trait even work? Because I swear nothing looks higher than the normal.
What does she say if you keep it all?
You forgot to mention something and the TRUE power of this origin. You mentioned it, but didn't go into detail. The boarding cable Aux slots are the best aux slot in the game bar none. They can let you steal ANYTHING. From enclaves, to asteroids, to Centera's mothership! And it works on modded stuff too like a systemcraft, the kaiser moon, or the blokkat vester. ITs assumed this'll be fixed on the 14th, but for now, you can steal major crisis motherships with them!
Yarr mateys, lets steal an entire weaponized solar system.
Being rushed by a big fleet right at the start of the game is quite unfair.
What happens if you lose your homeworld - Does the fleet continue to bombard your other planets, does it just stays there oris there a option to give the artefact away?
Why you didnt pick Letters of marque as megacorp?As i remember there are addiotional beneits for them... or i just stupid...
You can run whatever you would like with the origin in terms of civics/ethics /government authority! I was showing off what it did more than anything else
@@MontuPlays ok
@@MontuPlays Can we steal some crisis ships?
Another origin to the ,,banned in multi" collection
I don't think it will be, it's not too good early on!
A comment for the appreciated treasure planet reference
Definitely not a good origin to pick in an Ironman run when you don't know what's coming. Learned that the hard way lol. I'm honestly suprised by how good both new origins in this DLC are. Primal Calling casually giving a hivemind 300 naval cap, 40% research speed, and a global 40 amenities for free is just hilarious.
Soooo...Stellaris finally decided to take a page from Endless Space 2? "Ahoy me mateys, grape the land, pillage the women. We're tough pirates!!!"
*dropped a like* Sorry this civic looks wway to cool to get this many spoilers, I'll see you later
2 thing, you forget to tell that the planet with the event have special modifier for each and second i wonders what hivemind have if they cant have a council position
How many ways can they change this game from here. I think they have to be running out of ideas right?
*sigh* one piece will never end will it. Because it looks like the one piece is in space!
Floppa
Still not as good as virtuality
Time to quest for the One Piece
1 like in 40 seconds, bro fell off
The treasure was lame.
Typical one shot origin.
@@gallendugall8913 I don't know, all those bonuses were pretty wild
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