Why Risotto Vs. Doppio is Peak Fiction
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Villain vs villain fights are so entertaining
Like heroes most of the time have some sort of moral goodness holding them back but villains are allowed to just go all out and be a brutal as possible
Hard to call Doppio a villain but I get your point.
@@TheProphetLot He literally follows all the Boss' orders. Can't really call him anything but a villain.
lol that statement doesn't apply to jojo 😂
@Lot He’s used by the boss and manipulated by him, but he definitely is a villain. He believes wholeheartedly in the motives of Diavalo. It’s simply a matter of an individual who could’ve became good, however supports the wrong side because of the one in control.
@@glurpious73 What are YOU on about? Jonathan doesn't beat Speedwagon senseless and the only time he kills it's zombies.
Still one of, if not the best villain vs villain fight in anime and prob one of the best jojo fights in general
Diego vs Valentine would like to know your location
@@openaardvark419 best animated fight in jojo (as of right now)
Risotto out of almost all of them is pretty much the only member of la squares that I could genuinely see teaming and just befriending giorno and crew in the end.
Risotto is smart like giorno, Bruno and diavolo, but smart enough to actually recognize the value and assets and getting behind a cause that will actually benefit him in the long term by working together.
Like literally all of diavolos problems could’ve been avoided had he been a nice guy who learned to build genuine trust and work with others and be willing to change. Having people work under you because they genuinely like and want to help you trumps ruling over fear anyday. All you’re asking for is for your men to grow so scared they either run away or plot to defeat you and swear their lives to revenge or usually both).
Risotto strikes me as a guy who’s goals were a bit more profound than just wanting money and upholding the drug trade.
I feel he’s more like mista in the sense that he’s cool with whatever as long as he’s actually cared for and it’s a cause worth fighting for.
These are all traits giorno already has, so let’s be real....
Giorno would just make sure to pay and take care of them and ensure his needs are met, so there’d be no need to fight or betray a guy who’s THAT dangerous but also smart and valuable as a strong ally. 😂
Who wins in a fight: Risotto or giorno? Probably risotto, but even then, why would either of them WANT to fight when they’re both pragmatic enough to see that working together produces objectively better results??
Meanwhile melons is just a rapist 💀
@@openaardvark419 risotto vs doppio clears
Wow was it tho lmao
What I love about Villain vs Villain fights that you usually *don't know* if plot armor is in play or not and Risotto vs Doppio as a fight uses that to its fullest potential.
You kind of know that, with how Jojo operates, that Doppio/Diavolo has to live for his final showdown with Giorno, but the whole thing convinces you that they *could* die right here and now, and that Risotto would be the villain moving forward.
Its that mind freak in the moment that really helps make this fight as good as it is.
I totally thought that Doppio was going to die here and that the gang was going to uncover Diavolo's secret and keep it from Risotto/fight him before leaving. Probably because, at the time, this was my 2 all time favorite characters fighting it out, but I was rooting for Risotto and thought of what would happen if he won.
Are you shitting me doppio literally losing oxygen from His blood for half an episode AND doesn't die AND you can't tell who has the plot armor😂😂😂
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Risotto is 100% one of my favorite villains and him and Metallica have to be one of the most underrated characters and stands
A reminder that Risotto could've killed Doppio/Diavolo at any moment, but he held back to get info on Doppio in order to see his relation to the boss. It was only when he found out that he finally decided to kill him.
You could say the same about Diavolo holding back.
@@Orphan_of_Kos_or_some_say_Kosm Diavolo was never holding back because he was never even there. Doppio was fighting Risotto and Doppio was giving it his all but still couldn't beat Risotto at all
@@Orphan_of_Kos_or_some_say_Kosm Diavolo couldn't reveal himself because Risotto would run away and DIavolo's identity would be known, making Diavolo's life hell since Risotto IS an assassin and would kill Diavolo eventually.
@@joaquincasascortes624 Not to mention, if he somehow leaked intel to Bruno's group as a sort of "Common Enemy" move, it would allow them to potentially corner him even more. At that moment, Bruno's group and La Squadra had a common goal: identify and kill the Boss.
@@joaquincasascortes624The Joestar Technique is very powerful after all. Imagine Risotto just yelling "nigerundayo" after seeing Diavolo and running away.
Instantly clicked the notification of this video, araki did an outstanding job with the story blows my mind how peak it is
imma be honest like people might hate me but the only reason rissoto was able to survive boss was the fact he had an option to runaway or escape unlike diavolo like the moment diavolo takes control rissoto can straight up dip and start doxxing him on twitter or sum shit which is what makes this fight so intense : man who has soo much to hide and lose vs a man who has nothing to lose
Yeah, I love how Araki showed us how screwed Diavolo/Doppio were in this situation. Diavolo couldn't simply start the countdown to taking over Doppio's body, because there was too much of a risk of Risotto seeing his true form (and his secret) and then escaping.
So Diavolo had to somehow figure out the best time to start the transition. Too soon, and Risotto would get away with his secrets. Too late, and Risotto would kill Doppio easily (or so he thought).
It's peak Araki writing, making is wonder, "What the heck can Doppio/Diavolo do to get out of this situation?" I mean ... it's like what the heck can Emporio do to Pucci? Except it's such a shock to us. We thought of Diavolo as utterly powerful, but suddenly we're in a story where he's the one that seems utterly screwed.
Only of course, we "know" Diavolo will somehow win. From a story perspective, it doesn't make sense for Giorno and Bruno to have been spending so much effort trying to take on The Boss only for some side character to take him down.
@@IsaacKuo its the same as dio nearly being defeated by polnereff by a millisecond
Lmao at doxxing him on Twitter. Tbh that's true thougu
getting cancelled on twitter is better than infinite death loop you'll never escape
by the first interaction risotto could have ended doppio in literal minutes. metallica is that powerful. the only reason he didnt is because risotto needed information, and by the time had it, it was already too late and he lost.
This fight is the episode I show my friends when I'm explaining how JoJo is epic and weird simultaneously.
This is literally the 2nd best fight in JOJO just behind diavolo vs Bruno
Which one?
Okay okay, but the BEST part about the fight is that Doppio won. It was all Doppio.
We expect Doppio just needs to somehow survive long enough for Diavolo to take over, but by the time Diavolo takes over it would have been too late. Doppio's the one who figured out how to win, by throwing the knives at Bruno-tachi.
There's a running theme in JoJo of Stand Users needing to take on their opponent without any help, even if that help is tantalizingly nearby ... this is amped up to 11 in Golden Wind. The others could be just inside the nearby building. Or even in the next room. Or just turned with their backs looking the wrong way. Or they are looking straight at Narancia but they don't even understand the enemy Stand attack has already begun.
So OF COURSE Diavolo isn't going to make it in time. Doppio was right! And it is so satisfying to see Doppio vindicated!
"doppio won" he only survived because of Narancia
@RUclips Sharts exactly
That and I'm pretty sure when the time skip occurred at that scene of Narancia shooting, it was Diavolo's doing
All Doppio did was get a few good hits and last long enough to survive
@@Seinsmelled Doppio was about to lose because of Narancia. Aerosmith is the stand that revealed Doppio to Risotto.
@@Seinsmelled "carbon dioxide"
@@johndoesstuff352 "Wenis"
This fight and Bruno vs Diavolo are easily the best fights in P5 imo
This is my favourite non main character fight and it needs more recognition. Glad you made this video.
Top 3 fights in Jojo of all time, I haven't seen a villain vs villain fight as good as this in any anime
Great video as always. I'd love to see another one of these analysis videos on prosciutto and pesci
i know youve already done a video focused on la squadra, but an in-depth prosciutto and pesci video would be really cool. theyre very well written and cool characters that have an interesting relationship and development. other than that, good video.
Narancia is indirectrly responsible for Abbacchio's death.
Indirectly responsible read this few times and delete this shit
I still remember reading this fight before the anime was announced and just wondering how the hell DP was going to adapt this fight, and then being absolutely blown away by the stunning visuals, fantastic animation, and goated score. This fight was just perfect and you really had to be there with the community to appreciate this moment.
Definitely one of the best fights in the series.
I think people kinda misunderstand the premise of the fight. Diavolo could have easily won this whole time. The problem is that he was greedy for secrecy. Without the presence of Aerosmith to reveal Doppio, Diavolo's assassination of Risotto would have prevented the entire fight from happening. Without his desire to not reveal his true identity, he could have used the full extent of King Crimson to end the fight early. In the end, he used that same Aerosmith to make Doppio win. It just goes to show the extent that the Boss would go to hide himself, to the point of almost dying/making his alter-ego die from it.
It wasn't that simple. The problem is that Diavolo would have been in severe danger if Risotto discovered his secrets - not just his true appearance, but the fact that he had a split identity with the much weaker Doppio. Diavolo had to be absolutely sure of killing Risotto before he had a chance to escape, and that was extremely difficult for him!
Bear in mind that he THOUGHT he had killed Bruno. But he failed, and it's a reasonable assumption on his part that it was because he didn't understand his opponent's Stand abilities well enough. If Diavolo hadn't been perfect in keeping himself hidden during his attacks on Bruno, he would have already been screwed.
So Diavolo's paranoia is absolutely justified. He's especially scared due to his near failure with Bruno - and that was with him carefully preparing a perfect trap beforehand. And without Doppio to potentially mess things up.
@Isaac Kuo Yeah, honestly, there was a genuine chance of Risotto just seeing the Boss' face, figuring out his gimmick, and then using the Joestar secret technique to gtfo
You didn't even understand the reason why Diavolo was hiding in the first place. Risotto is a master assassin that even the association couldn't find, plus he had the ability to go invisible. If the boss revealed himself, then Risotto would know that the boss shared the body with Doppio and just escape, then he could assassinate the boss even in his sleep
Cope
Honestly Rissoto could’ve standed a chance against King Crimson even if it was Diavolo.
For one he has pretty far from Doppio most the fight. Safe to say he was out of King Crimsons range if Polnarreff (who was considerably closer) was. Also had a decent speed advantage so he could keep this up.
He can turn also invisible which Diavolo still can’t see even in his time skip.
He can heal himself if Diavolo hits him (which Diopio did so fair to say Diavolo could get a hit it in)
He’s intelligent so if Diavolo used King Crimson he could probably realize what happened
More importantly his alot or attacks are from inside of Diavolos body. Even with time skip how will Diavolo stop that without injuring himself.
Combine all of this and rissoto could probably just stay invissible and not do anything for 10 seconds and he could at the very least put up a fight against king crimson and DEFINITELY could’ve escaped if he realized King crimson was stronger
This is fighting gold, Jerry! Fighting gold!
did we all just forget that diavolo drank some random child's blood to get out of that?
I wish there were more fights like this, but not only villain v villain but more same class stands too. Metallica and King Crimson are assassination stands and watching how each impact the outcome of each others own assassination attempts is like watching a chess match. I honestly feel like no other fight had this level of intellect and creativity aside from Pucci vs Everyone at the end of Part 6. Just an extremely well written fight and one of my favorites in all of anime imo.
To this day, my favorite fight in JoJo by far!
I love how in two of the best fights in JOJO the person who lost lost because they got unlucky(those two fights being Cesar vs Wamuu and Risotto vs Doppio/Diavolo)
Risotto almost killed main villian by himself in fair 1v1 while main cast had to run and figure out what to do againts him.
No requiem, no power up just this man alone.
A big thing is that it's not entirely a fight, more of a interrogation. Risotto could have killed Doppio easily but he needs information from him, while Doppio is just trying to survive and not give Risotto what he needs.
part 5 isnt even my favorite, but hot damn it has some of my favorite fights in the whole series
Y'know before watching this video I never knew why everyone loved this fight, but this video did good on changing my opinions
6:09-6:13 is a lens I’d never seen this fight with. Very great observation bro! Killer job covering one of my favorite fights ever!
Good video, joyful, and interesting. Keep it up man good job!
This and the fight on the train are two of the best fights in the series from what I’ve seen so far and they’re both in Part 5.
I wish we had more of him
So this fight was the first episode of jojo's i ever saw, my friend was watching it and i decided to sit down and watch with him. Its the fight that got me into the series
my favourite fight in the series! also helps that king crimson and metallica are some of my favourite bands
one of my favourite fights in general, maybe the number one. yes the animation is gorgeous, but i also loved how one leader pressed the other leader to a corner, and how the original half of doppio/diavolo handles it. it also established the relation between the dual personalities. i also loved risotto's stand, metallica, not only because i love metallica, but because of the way he used it. i mean such ways of using such stands isn't that rare in jjba, but i like this one in particular.
It was a really cool twist to see a villain vs main villain fight in JoJo. But its even cooler to see that the sub boss had the final boss beat and struggling massively.
I love this fight another favourite fight for me is the Prosciutto and Pesci fight I just love both of them my favourite la squadra members up there with Risotto and Ghiacco
Truly. My top 3 favorite fights from Part 1-6. I’m reading part 7 Steel Ball run now. This fight upset me so much cause he was RIGHT THERE!!! Like a centimeter away from the W
My favorite fight that followed my favorite episode
Kaleb, we need a video explaining why Bohemian Rapsody is overpowered think about it it has the potential to be more powerful than all the most powerful like GER and Tusk Act 4.
I have to assume that Rohan was asleep during Bohemian Rhapsody, because if he were awake it would have taken him five minutes to figure out what was going on and then about 15 seconds to draw enough ridiculously OP characters to COMPLETELY mess up Japan and then after he realizes that was a monumentally bad idea another .2 seconds to draw his own "Put Back".
@@IsaacKuo Yes I definitely see what you mean Rohan would have definitely taken advantage of the time Bohemian Rapspody was activated.
Actually my favourite fight in all of JJBA
im glad someone is paying attention to this goated fight
definetly my favorite in the series
good background music choice
The best animated fight so far imo. Also that DOOM music fits so well with this fight.
Funniest shit, I just got into an argument with someone saying "Risotto is forgettable and irrelevant" then I come to youtube and see this
Risotto lost the fight, but he could have ended it the second it began.
It's fucking scary how ominous he is, he made needles and razors inside of doppio's mouth, he could have just as easily made wires inside his guts, iron balls on the kidneys, fucking nails and bolts inside your brain.
His rage was too much for him to control sadly
And then the plot twist at the end.. that got me good
omg I'm so glad u made this video. This was one of the best Jojo fights ever made
great video! A video comparing jotaro vs DIO with Johnny vs Diego would be pretty cool.
Still one of the most hype fights ive seen animated in general, not just in jojo. It was never a clear cut win for anyone the whole fight and seeing the supposed untouchable main villian get beaten to a pulp is something you really dont see much these days.
also Diav/Dop superfan here, dont worry, we absolutely know Boss is a nasty, terrible weenie coward. thats absolutely why we enjoy him so much. put him in a blender
Now you NNNEEEEDDD to do Risotto vs Itachi from Naruto, would be lit.
I think it is interesting to look at this fight as an allegory. Doppio/Diavolo represents, like you said, the systemic violence of the status quo, while la Squadra represents an opposing authority disinterested in change but interested in seizing power over the status quo. What is interesting is how Diavolo uses Bucciarati's gang, the group representing change and improvement of the status quo, to achieve his goal of maintaining his grip over the very status quo Bucciarati's gang seeks to seize and improve. It is frankly very reminiscent of how revolutionary and civil rights movements are coopted by powerful individuals who seek only to maintain the status quo by manipulating those seeking real change.
Risotto Vs Magneto. i can't be the only 1 who thought about that before ? Lol
Hironori Tanaka's contribution to this fight was amazing.
Wdym? Explain
@@johndoesstuff352 one of the lead animators for the golden wind anime
Risotto is one of my favorite characters. He got hoe'd harder than almost anybody in jojos
Not as hard as avdul
Jolyne vs Viviano Westwood. You have to man that fight contributes so much to Jolyne Kujo’s character arc!
Top 5 jojos fight, dare I say a top 5 villain vs villain fight in all of anime. The build up/ mystery surrounding both characters is unmatched.
You need to talk about bohemian rhapsody, he is overpowered. He can bring ANY fictional character to life.
Risotto was so fire to me mann
Can you do a video about the most forgotten stand “yellow temperance”?
I definitely agree with Diavolo being a coward because his whole stand is based around counters, or being faster
Honestly Rissoto is another main villain tier character. His stand while a bit weaker than some of the ones The villains have is very very strong and horrifying. His design…. Yeah no need to elaborate about that, Hes smart, smarter than the actual main villain, he even has his own group with mostly powerful stands in there own right. If he survived part 5 he definitely could’ve remained a threat in the future.
tasty rice dish fights two bottles of vinegar and the devil himself
You bouta make me rewatch part 5 bro
Risotto is a good example of a stand user with an otherwise "useless" stand ability, being able to fully utilize and master his skills and ability to the fullest extent, just cuz his ability can be summarized by "oh he can Feely control iron" doesn't stop him from turning the iron in your blood against you, bro even took control of another stand meaning he has done so before, and his skill and knowledge of his stand's full extent is what makes him so formidable
It is amazing how a seemingly mid ability is kinda broken. If he really wanted to, he could just instakill you whenever.
@@lpfan4491 controlling metal is not a “mid” ability, I mean Magneto is one of the strongest mutants in the X-Men universe for a reason
Best part 5 fight imo
I agree with you. It's my second favorite fight in the entire series.
Doppio:"I should weaponize other people's stands."
Risotto:"Same."
Diavolo:"Nuh uh."
I love this fight, it was one of my favorite along with Narancia and Formagio but there was one thing, one little detail that always will have my attention, Risotto's T-pose, what a nightmarish sight to see.
Here's something.
Part four uses many perspectives as it explores Morioh. How would you narratively divide up the themeing in Diamond is not crash?
ex: "in episode x scene y we follow Koichi. this is thematically following narrative theme 'A' and when we cut to Josuke after we are narratively in theme 'B'
The music in the background is BFG10K from Doom Eternal.
Remember diavolo didn't use king crimson against resotto . I think he could win easily with full king crimson abilities
That's why the animation in the first Stone Ocean batch wasn't very good, they put all their budget in this fight
They are three years apart. That logic makes no sense
@@carloscauan7967 it was a joke, I just wanted to say that the animation in this fight was so good they didn't have enough budget for an animation as good as this fight for the first batch of SO
what i would give to reread/rewatch jojos for the first time is despicable
HELL YE IT IS! Haven't actually watched the video yet, but i just wanted to say that. Have a god one!
Risotto vs. doppio, is just Kaleb IA vs. x forts in another dimension 😅
Nah, that's an overstatement.
Shigecchi vs. Kira would be a good fight to talk about, because it's the main villain's introduction too.
Easily, my favorite non-steel ball run universe fight
Ngl what I would’ve loved to see more of was diavalo against risotto
If diavolo was fighting risotto then the fight would have already ended before it started
You should do a fight analysis of Kira vs Josuke 🙏🏻
I know its jojo but how are people saying no plot armor when doppio loses all the oxygen in his body and still wins 😭😭
Talks about one of the bloodiest battles in jojo 0:36 the doom music starts
This is the best stand battle in JoJo in my opinion, it's the only time two villains have been in a fight, it's unpredictable, it's gory, it's perfect
Finally someone who makes a video appreciating this fight, I consider Risotto vs Doppio the best fight in Golden Wind.
I didnt really think about the purpose of the groups themselves, but Bucciaratis group must have been specially formed to investigate issues for Passione. He was ordered to investigate Leaky Eyed Lucas murder originally, and all of the members abilities have to do with reconnaissance. Kind of an interesting thought.
Yes this , chocolate fight, train and last fight leading up to girono getting the arrow from naranicha death
Risotto is my favorite character in JOJO, I love his stand I wish I saw more of him
oooo, i just thought of something. if diavolo represents the control within the status quo, GER's infinite death can represent that change will always happen no matter what and things will change
Chariot Requiem and GER felt so underwhelming after this...Until the death loop. That was brutal.
W background music
The Doom music!
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
make a video about how strong risotto and chiocolatta are. it would be awsome
Deadass, risotto wasnt making it out of this fight unscathed. He tried to figure out who doppio was since he assumed doppio was important to diavolo, being trusted by him, so instead of instantly killing him and fearing that one day he'd be assassinated, he tried to get information out of him. He didnt know that doppio was the boss, and diavolo never revealed himself because if he did then risotto couldve slipped away, since he always stood just out of his range while still being able to attack him
Reminder that if Risotto really wanted to, he could turn the Iron inside him spikes and donut his heart
Risotto outfit is pretty radical. :)
Best Villain vs villain fight
Kaleb back at it again with the crappy upload schedule
I would be curious to see difference between the "characteristics" of both Diego and Dio Brando, like how much similar yet different they are...
Since anything that happens in epitaph comes true.If Diavolo can control what happens in epitath💀💀💀