It was one of the best values during the Pandemic. And it still handle games in or under 1080p like a champ! I was very satisfied with the purchase. It served me well, four years on pure fun!
wouldnt be surprised if the 1650 in the steam survey was really the laptop version. That thing was in EVRYTHING. They were still putting them in new laptops just last year smh yikes
I almost posted the same thing. So many videos about the 1650 and they always feature the desktop version when the steam survey doesn't differentiate between 1650 and 1650 mobile. I'm sure 99% of the 1650s in the survey are from laptops. also, some 1650s in laptops have 1024 cores instead of the desktop's 896 which makes these videos even less useful.
@@schnitzel_enjoyer why tf would you blame game optimization (which mean you're reffering to modern released titles) when you use gtx 1650 ? lmao thats like complaining about the car being slow but driving using a donkey
@@schnitzel_enjoyer depends on the laptop build and ventilation as well. Have you ever changed your thermal paste and cleaned your ventilators? Basically, if the laptop gets too hot, it can lower performance because of "heat throttling". If you are not sure of how to change your paste and clean ventilators correctly, just bring it to any shop, it's a fast and cheap operation. It can really refresh your performance
GTX1650 is still very usable for story-rich games, where quick aiming is not needed and you dont need to jump like a goat all the time to dodge bullets. For story rich games does not matter if you have just 30 to 40 FPS, you can still fully enjoy the game (but usually you can get 60 fps if you lower graphics settings). I have completed Horizon Zero dawn or Assasin Creed Odyssey without feeling any performace problems. GTX1650 is actually the best low profile graphics card, its fits even to very thin pc case with width 95 mm only (you actually cant buy anything better than this). But I have to admit, that GTX 1650 is not the best choice for those who intend to buy a PC for games only (it is a good choice only for those who have very limited budget).
Still rocking a GTX 1050 Ti, 45-50 fps on Cyberpunk 2077 with medium to high settings. All you need is to overclock the GPU and optimize the game properly.
1650 is still good depending what you play. I bought one used x99 custom build and it came with low profile gt730 (some pretty late production batch). Now for fun I'm pushing this little one to see what it is capable of.
The 1650 has Nvenc which its non nvidia competitor's lack. Even with its 4gb of vram and 4 year old architecture obs and streaming works and tha can really be valuable to people. The 75w tdp really is useful as well as no 6 pin power means it can be used on many office pcs
It makes sense why the 1650 was/is so popular. But It is unfortunate that consumers couldn't get something a little more powerful for their money but I can't say the 1650 is a bad card, especially for a good price.
I still have the Gtx 1650 D6 Oced +250Mhz on cores and memory,With The Ryzen 3 3300x Oc to 4.5Ghz. Its Pretty Good I Usually Get like ~70-80 FPS on average In AAA games on medium low settings. the lows only Usually drops below 60 at 55 On Average. It also sips Power Xd @100 watts in the most intensive usages.
I'm Probably Keeping it until the start of May as I'm Saving up to Build 5 PCs with 4070 Ti super,Rx 7900XT,Rx6700XT,Rtx 2070 Super,Rtx 3070 and Gtx 1660 Ti which I Bought for a total of ~$2000😅.
The 1650 is one weird chip if you look at all the variants. There is the 'standard' 1650 like this one but the 'Ti' model with 1024 shaders was a laptop only part which I always found strange, it's slightly faster even at 50W configuration but in some rare cases it was given a 75 watt power limit. Never understood why this part wasn't used in PCI-E cards since it was pretty perfect and a slight boost over the standard version. Then the 'Super' variant which is usually slower than the Ti with every other GPU is actually faster than the 1650 Ti, has a 100W power limit and as far as I know was never released as a low profile card. As for the 'standard' 1650 yeah, it's still quite usable. It's a shame these low profile ones are so hard/expensive to find now, Nvidia really didn't have any replacement for these models until the recent 3050 6GB cards released which fill pretty much the same niche.
If only the 1650 low profile wasn't so expensive, I got mine for $180 just for it's charm but it should really be $150 tops. Since it's becoming more and more rare/demanding.
I agree. It would be nice if manufacturers made more low profile variants of their lower tier cards. I love the fact we already got a LP RTX 4060 but it would have been nice to see a RTX 3050 or even an RX 6600 LP. I think if there were more options on the market, prices would be more reasonable. I absolutely love the smaller cards for small form factor builds or throwing them in older OEM PCs
People talk fps all the time. I run with an i7 and an rx 6800 right now. I have heard all the hype for many years and have invested a lot of money over the years. I mostly play single player for my own enjoyment but play online sometimes. Turning on the Vsync or Gsync and running at 60fps, 75fps or so is very enjoyable and smooth gameplay. Anymore than that may be nice but not needed.
It was a fair card really, but was too overpriced when released. RX-570 was cheaper/same price and performance was better, the 8GB model was even better. edit: forgot to say that i would go for a i5 11400 instead of the 10400. 11400 has AVX-512 and it's always nice to get better instruction sets.
Except, the RX 570 compete against the 1060 or the later 1660 and 2060. RX Flop series/Flop VII - Titan V/RTX RX 4/580 (500 series is the same card) - 970/980/1070 RX 4/570 - 960/1060 series RX 4/560 - 950/1050 series
@@AlfaPro1337 Please enlight us with more knowledge. How exactly the 2016/2017 sub $200 RX-470/570 competed with the over $200 1060/1660 or even the 2060 released 2-3 years later that costed twice as much? Even the 8GB model of the 480/580 had a similar price to the 1060 6GB, 1070 was *much* more expensive. Why the F you are even comparing this card with 2014 GTX-900 series that were limited to 4GB.
@@Brazkainetsb Because tier upgrade. I mean, a lot of gamers just playing esports title, simply stayed on the same tier. I have a friend that had a 760 ti, upgrade to 960 and later 1660. Look at AMD launched slides for the RX 480. It literally compares the RX 480 against 970 and 980. Even 2x480 against 1x1080. And if you are upgrading from 970/80, you are likely to buy a 1070 (because you are getting more than a 980 Ti performance for lower price). Not only that, DF showcased the 970/80 as a budget 4K30 card (games made for that year and 1 more). And benchmarks shows that the RX 480 can do 4K30 on the budget too---that is if you don't want Nvidia, AND don't want go last gen. However, like the 970/80, it's for game made within that year, and 1 more. Plus, Nvidia has better memory compression than AMD, since the 600 series, and improving. AMD realised this and made improvements, and showcased it starting with the RX 5000 series. Heck, even Intel get into the bandwagon of memory compression for their iGPU.
@@AlfaPro1337 Uh, you basically just proved my point here. If AMD needed two 480s to get the performance of a single 1080 (assuming the game is very well optimized for Crossfire), these cards don't compete at all. Comparing the 480 against 980/1060 just shows how far behind they were back then, having to *cut prices to compete with older/lower tier cards*, so your statement about 570 competing with cards such as 2060 is absurd to say the least. They didn't compete in price, performance or even efficiency. Polaris couldn't compete with 1070 either in any way shape or form, even the RX-590 won't match it's performance and had a lower MSRP too. I absolutely agree about the 970/80 upgrade to 1070, it's a pretty logic upgrade path. The only real competions are price and price to performance ratio, and in that aspect: RTX had no competition at all, as GCN cards don't even have RT cores and even if they had they are not powerful enough for that Vega 56/64 were priced similarly to 1070Ti-1080 IIRC RX-480/580 - GTX 1060 RX-470/570 - GTX 1650 or even 1050Ti in some countries (in mine the 1050ti was somehow a little bit more expensive) I agree with you about the RX-560 competing with 1050 RX-550 vs GT-1030 (i know they are pretty weak but hey, some people actually got them and had fun with that).
@@Brazkainetsb Except you're proving my point. AMD isn't going to $-to-$, it's tier-to-tier. You have to default to the lowest IQ in the customer history. Whenever a customer see the RX Flop series/Flop VII, they see it named differently from the RX 4/500 series, and easily match it against the Titans. I mean, AMD pulled the same stunt with the R9 Not-So-Fury series. I mean why else AMD named it so differently (for Not-So-Fury and Flop)? Heck, even their confusing Rx 2/300 series is proving that AMD is going tier-to-tier. Even right now, AMD is still going tier-to-tier with their latest 7000 vs 40 series RX Flop series/Flop VII - Titan V/RTX RX 4/580 - 1070 RX 4/570 - 1060 RX 4/560 - 1050 RX 4/550 - 1030 RX Flop series/Flop VII - Titan V/RTX RX 6900 series - RTX 3090 series RX 6800 series - RTX 3080 series RX 6700 series - RTX 3070 series RX 6600 series - RTX 3060 series RX 6500 series - RTX 3050 series XTX/XT - Ti xx50 - Ti or step up RX Flop series/Flop VII - Titan V/RTX RX 7900 series - RTX 4090 series RX 7800 series - RTX 4080 series RX 7700 series - RTX 4070 series RX 7600 series - RTX 4060 series RX 7500 series - RTX 4050 series XTX/XT - Ti xx50 - Ti or step up Anything else, AMD and its fanboi are on copium.
This is the bare minimum I'd recommend for players on a budget. It can still more or less hold it's own in plenty of games today though obviously not as well as it could a couple of years ago. I'd like to see low profile versions of the RTX 20 and 30 series of cards particularly the 2060 Super and the 3060 12 gb version. I know we have the lp version of the 4060 but that's a bit much to start with in most cases.
Low profile 3060 12GB would be interesting but would be a very chonky card. Asus have a 3060 12GB single fan model (Phoenix) which is great for mini ITX builds and it is impressively small but so thick, it actually runs very cool (better than many other dual fan models I have) but is over 2.5 slots thick because of the heatsink it needs - it's a 170W card after all, not sure you could ever squeeze it into low profile.
I own a Hp Victus 15 Gaming Laptop with a gtx 1650 and most my games run on high settings 60 fps shii i get 80-100 fps on fortnite with high settings! So to me its very playable still and it works excellent for 1080p gaming!
Just a little advice dont get a 10400 if your running an LGA 1200 mobo get the 11400f instead so u can utilize pcie Gen4 , also its faster so if u plan on testing midrange cards its better, i test on my rig and the 10400 is dogshit honestly
I have heard this advice from a lot of viewers and will most likely follow it. I will keep my eye out for a good deal on an 11400 unless I decide to just upgrade my entire test bench to a newer platform
It was one of the best values during the Pandemic. And it still handle games in or under 1080p like a champ!
I was very satisfied with the purchase. It served me well, four years on pure fun!
wouldnt be surprised if the 1650 in the steam survey was really the laptop version. That thing was in EVRYTHING. They were still putting them in new laptops just last year smh yikes
I almost posted the same thing. So many videos about the 1650 and they always feature the desktop version when the steam survey doesn't differentiate between 1650 and 1650 mobile. I'm sure 99% of the 1650s in the survey are from laptops. also, some 1650s in laptops have 1024 cores instead of the desktop's 896 which makes these videos even less useful.
i have one in my laptop, it was good but dogshit now
Edit: Perhaps the modern game optimisation is dogshit
@@schnitzel_enjoyer why tf would you blame game optimization (which mean you're reffering to modern released titles) when you use gtx 1650 ? lmao thats like complaining about the car being slow but driving using a donkey
@@schnitzel_enjoyer depends on the laptop build and ventilation as well. Have you ever changed your thermal paste and cleaned your ventilators? Basically, if the laptop gets too hot, it can lower performance because of "heat throttling". If you are not sure of how to change your paste and clean ventilators correctly, just bring it to any shop, it's a fast and cheap operation. It can really refresh your performance
My Nitro 5 has one and it has served me well... until my laptop finally crapped out on me
GTX1650 is still very usable for story-rich games, where quick aiming is not needed and you dont need to jump like a goat all the time to dodge bullets. For story rich games does not matter if you have just 30 to 40 FPS, you can still fully enjoy the game (but usually you can get 60 fps if you lower graphics settings). I have completed Horizon Zero dawn or Assasin Creed Odyssey without feeling any performace problems. GTX1650 is actually the best low profile graphics card, its fits even to very thin pc case with width 95 mm only (you actually cant buy anything better than this). But I have to admit, that GTX 1650 is not the best choice for those who intend to buy a PC for games only (it is a good choice only for those who have very limited budget).
Still rocking a GTX 1050 Ti, 45-50 fps on Cyberpunk 2077 with medium to high settings. All you need is to overclock the GPU and optimize the game properly.
1650 is still good depending what you play.
I bought one used x99 custom build and it came with low profile gt730 (some pretty late production batch). Now for fun I'm pushing this little one to see what it is capable of.
crazy that you only have 1.6k subs, you deserve way more man
I appreciate that!
I second it. Great content this dude pumps out
"The steam hardware survey serves as a dependable resource for assessing user povery" there, I fixed it
Love the content, mate. Keep it up.
Much appreciated!
The 1650 has Nvenc which its non nvidia competitor's lack. Even with its 4gb of vram and 4 year old architecture obs and streaming works and tha can really be valuable to people. The 75w tdp really is useful as well as no 6 pin power means it can be used on many office pcs
Wrong, AMD has VCN, but poor piss quality when compared to Nvidia and Intel (this is up to RX 4/500).
It makes sense why the 1650 was/is so popular. But It is unfortunate that consumers couldn't get something a little more powerful for their money but I can't say the 1650 is a bad card, especially for a good price.
@AlfaPro1337 re read my comment. The 1650 has nvenc which its non nvidia competitor's lack. Amd doesn't have nvenc.
@UltraBudgetPC I want the rtx 3050 at the £180 price point new. 2nd it would be in the 100 pound price point and a good budget card
@@UltraBudgetPC If you are playing fortnite, val, csgo, or any low-end, esports title, the 1650 is pretty much ok.
I still have the Gtx 1650 D6 Oced +250Mhz on cores and memory,With The Ryzen 3 3300x Oc to 4.5Ghz. Its Pretty Good I Usually Get like ~70-80 FPS on average In AAA games on medium low settings. the lows only Usually drops below 60 at 55 On Average. It also sips Power Xd @100 watts in the most intensive usages.
I'm Probably Keeping it until the start of May as I'm Saving up to Build 5 PCs with 4070 Ti super,Rx 7900XT,Rx6700XT,Rtx 2070 Super,Rtx 3070 and Gtx 1660 Ti which I Bought for a total of ~$2000😅.
Great video man, keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
Awesome video, I am about to upgrade my i5 6500 System which has a 250W power supply. You helped me out a lot
The 1650 is one weird chip if you look at all the variants. There is the 'standard' 1650 like this one but the 'Ti' model with 1024 shaders was a laptop only part which I always found strange, it's slightly faster even at 50W configuration but in some rare cases it was given a 75 watt power limit. Never understood why this part wasn't used in PCI-E cards since it was pretty perfect and a slight boost over the standard version.
Then the 'Super' variant which is usually slower than the Ti with every other GPU is actually faster than the 1650 Ti, has a 100W power limit and as far as I know was never released as a low profile card.
As for the 'standard' 1650 yeah, it's still quite usable. It's a shame these low profile ones are so hard/expensive to find now, Nvidia really didn't have any replacement for these models until the recent 3050 6GB cards released which fill pretty much the same niche.
for me the RX 580 is still the king
yeah same!👍🏻
Outdated gpu. Very soon, it will be discontinued from the AMD driver supported list. 😀
I have that card to from sapphire
@@Sam-cq9bj the new driver came aut 6 days ago for 580
uses 5 times more energy than 1650...
If only the 1650 low profile wasn't so expensive, I got mine for $180 just for it's charm but it should really be $150 tops. Since it's becoming more and more rare/demanding.
I agree. It would be nice if manufacturers made more low profile variants of their lower tier cards. I love the fact we already got a LP RTX 4060 but it would have been nice to see a RTX 3050 or even an RX 6600 LP. I think if there were more options on the market, prices would be more reasonable. I absolutely love the smaller cards for small form factor builds or throwing them in older OEM PCs
The FSR is one of the best thing ever invented, it allows my GTX 1650 to last for another 2-5 years
I had a laptop one. It got me into computer games. I was suprised. there wasn't anything I wanted to play that I couldn't on 1080p med
People talk fps all the time. I run with an i7 and an rx 6800 right now. I have heard all the hype for many years and have invested a lot of money over the years. I mostly play single player for my own enjoyment but play online sometimes. Turning on the Vsync or Gsync and running at 60fps, 75fps or so is very enjoyable and smooth gameplay. Anymore than that may be nice but not needed.
I got the identical looking but slower 1630 for my HP SFF pc
Decent gpu not too strong but not trash
Mediocre would be a great word for it
@@UltraBudgetPCis the GTX 1650 good for the i3 10105f ?
Will it bottleneck
@@UltraBudgetPCwill I get better performance if I pair it with the i5 10400f
Nope
@@mktheyoutuber9277 I asked @UltraBudgetPC
It was a fair card really, but was too overpriced when released. RX-570 was cheaper/same price and performance was better, the 8GB model was even better.
edit: forgot to say that i would go for a i5 11400 instead of the 10400. 11400 has AVX-512 and it's always nice to get better instruction sets.
Except, the RX 570 compete against the 1060 or the later 1660 and 2060.
RX Flop series/Flop VII - Titan V/RTX
RX 4/580 (500 series is the same card) - 970/980/1070
RX 4/570 - 960/1060 series
RX 4/560 - 950/1050 series
@@AlfaPro1337 Please enlight us with more knowledge. How exactly the 2016/2017 sub $200 RX-470/570 competed with the over $200 1060/1660 or even the 2060 released 2-3 years later that costed twice as much?
Even the 8GB model of the 480/580 had a similar price to the 1060 6GB, 1070 was *much* more expensive. Why the F you are even comparing this card with 2014 GTX-900 series that were limited to 4GB.
@@Brazkainetsb Because tier upgrade.
I mean, a lot of gamers just playing esports title, simply stayed on the same tier. I have a friend that had a 760 ti, upgrade to 960 and later 1660.
Look at AMD launched slides for the RX 480. It literally compares the RX 480 against 970 and 980. Even 2x480 against 1x1080.
And if you are upgrading from 970/80, you are likely to buy a 1070 (because you are getting more than a 980 Ti performance for lower price).
Not only that, DF showcased the 970/80 as a budget 4K30 card (games made for that year and 1 more).
And benchmarks shows that the RX 480 can do 4K30 on the budget too---that is if you don't want Nvidia, AND don't want go last gen. However, like the 970/80, it's for game made within that year, and 1 more.
Plus, Nvidia has better memory compression than AMD, since the 600 series, and improving. AMD realised this and made improvements, and showcased it starting with the RX 5000 series.
Heck, even Intel get into the bandwagon of memory compression for their iGPU.
@@AlfaPro1337 Uh, you basically just proved my point here. If AMD needed two 480s to get the performance of a single 1080 (assuming the game is very well optimized for Crossfire), these cards don't compete at all. Comparing the 480 against 980/1060 just shows how far behind they were back then, having to *cut prices to compete with older/lower tier cards*, so your statement about 570 competing with cards such as 2060 is absurd to say the least. They didn't compete in price, performance or even efficiency. Polaris couldn't compete with 1070 either in any way shape or form, even the RX-590 won't match it's performance and had a lower MSRP too.
I absolutely agree about the 970/80 upgrade to 1070, it's a pretty logic upgrade path.
The only real competions are price and price to performance ratio, and in that aspect:
RTX had no competition at all, as GCN cards don't even have RT cores and even if they had they are not powerful enough for that
Vega 56/64 were priced similarly to 1070Ti-1080 IIRC
RX-480/580 - GTX 1060
RX-470/570 - GTX 1650 or even 1050Ti in some countries (in mine the 1050ti was somehow a little bit more expensive)
I agree with you about the RX-560 competing with 1050
RX-550 vs GT-1030 (i know they are pretty weak but hey, some people actually got them and had fun with that).
@@Brazkainetsb Except you're proving my point. AMD isn't going to $-to-$, it's tier-to-tier.
You have to default to the lowest IQ in the customer history.
Whenever a customer see the RX Flop series/Flop VII, they see it named differently from the RX 4/500 series, and easily match it against the Titans.
I mean, AMD pulled the same stunt with the R9 Not-So-Fury series. I mean why else AMD named it so differently (for Not-So-Fury and Flop)?
Heck, even their confusing Rx 2/300 series is proving that AMD is going tier-to-tier.
Even right now, AMD is still going tier-to-tier with their latest 7000 vs 40 series
RX Flop series/Flop VII - Titan V/RTX
RX 4/580 - 1070
RX 4/570 - 1060
RX 4/560 - 1050
RX 4/550 - 1030
RX Flop series/Flop VII - Titan V/RTX
RX 6900 series - RTX 3090 series
RX 6800 series - RTX 3080 series
RX 6700 series - RTX 3070 series
RX 6600 series - RTX 3060 series
RX 6500 series - RTX 3050 series
XTX/XT - Ti
xx50 - Ti or step up
RX Flop series/Flop VII - Titan V/RTX
RX 7900 series - RTX 4090 series
RX 7800 series - RTX 4080 series
RX 7700 series - RTX 4070 series
RX 7600 series - RTX 4060 series
RX 7500 series - RTX 4050 series
XTX/XT - Ti
xx50 - Ti or step up
Anything else, AMD and its fanboi are on copium.
This is the bare minimum I'd recommend for players on a budget. It can still more or less hold it's own in plenty of games today though obviously not as well as it could a couple of years ago.
I'd like to see low profile versions of the RTX 20 and 30 series of cards particularly the 2060 Super and the 3060 12 gb version. I know we have the lp version of the 4060 but that's a bit much to start with in most cases.
Low profile 3060 12GB would be interesting but would be a very chonky card. Asus have a 3060 12GB single fan model (Phoenix) which is great for mini ITX builds and it is impressively small but so thick, it actually runs very cool (better than many other dual fan models I have) but is over 2.5 slots thick because of the heatsink it needs - it's a 170W card after all, not sure you could ever squeeze it into low profile.
TY
how much fps can i get with i3 10105f in pubg?
I just bought a laptop with the mobile verison of the 1650 for $250 out the door from a pawn shop.
bro why does everyone treat it like its a 10 year old graphics card GODDAMN
Can this run new world ?
I own a Hp Victus 15 Gaming Laptop with a gtx 1650 and most my games run on high settings 60 fps shii i get 80-100 fps on fortnite with high settings! So to me its very playable still and it works excellent for 1080p gaming!
Bro, I still using 650Ti 😢
If it does what you need it to, nothing wrong with that😁
If only RTX 3050 had a low profile version 😁
That would be awesome
Weirdly enough, the RTX 4060 does have one (a specific Gigabyte model)
It does now :) 3050 6GB low profile, about the only version of it that makes sense.
Just a little advice dont get a 10400 if your running an LGA 1200 mobo get the 11400f instead so u can utilize pcie Gen4 , also its faster so if u plan on testing midrange cards its better, i test on my rig and the 10400 is dogshit honestly
I have heard this advice from a lot of viewers and will most likely follow it. I will keep my eye out for a good deal on an 11400 unless I decide to just upgrade my entire test bench to a newer platform
There was GDDR6 version, much faster than GDDR5.
can u do a 2060?
I would certainly like to review one. Just need to find a good deal on one used.
The GDDR6 version is better tho
My 1650 gets like half of this performance
Oh how much gb of ram
@@dezzygaming6057 16gb 3200mhz
THIS GPU IS GOOD FOR PS4 GAMES
BUT FOR PS5 VGAMES NOPE