Their old PCs: Good CPU for the time, good CPU cooler, 8GB RAM My schools old PCs: 1 core CPU from the beginning of the century, Intel stock fan, "RAM, whats that?"
Depends on the Manufacturer. Sometimes the PSU is too low to add anything, like 120W. And its also proprietary, so an ATX PSU cannot connect to the prebuilt's motherboard. Then you're screwed. In fact most prebuilts have non replaceable PSU's. Notice how the PSU was not upgraded in the video
@Gyro Adapters exist but don't work on most HP computers, idk about dell. The motherboards have a Watt limit like the Erica board, you can't supply more than 200W in. So you will need a similar workstation board like the Rother that can take 500. The HP 24 to 6 pin is not supposed to work, reducing the pins in which power is delivered is highly not recommended, there is a high chance of damage to the motherboard.
@@jimmycarburator2012Helps me fit full size graphics cards in my sff 9020 anyways 😂 but I am an engineering workshop pro. Same can be achieved slowly and careful with a 3 dollar mini/junior hacksaw or tinsnips/metal cutters and sandpaper or file to remove rough edges, rattlecan primer and spray paint to taste😂
I actually really enjoy SFF OEM systems. Having a PC the size of an Xbox One S is convenient for media centers and living rooms, and they're easier to move if you want to bring them to LAN parties and such compared to a mid-tower system.
Love your videos, sir. Yes, the power supplies in this old machines usually don’t have 6 pin connectors but more importantly they are usually 240-260 watts. Therefore, the low power draw is important. I just upgraded a Dell Optiplex with an i7-3770 CPU by installing a GTX 1050 Ti that I got on Offer Up for $85 and it works great. I tested the system on Unigine Valley using Medium and Ultra settings and the power draw was never over 150 watts. So I have a nice eSports machine for under $250.
Great video, just finished a similar setup for my youngest son, but with an i7 3770, 12gb of DDR 3 RAM 1600mhz and a GTX 1050TI, it plays decently at 1080p hight settings on most games and even handles emulation up to the Wii U and Xbox 360 👍 keep up the good work as I really enjoy your videos buddy 💪
He had vsync off so that the games would run higher than 60fps. However, that creates screen tearing. Simply just turning vsync on will fix it, but you'll find poor performance in some unoptimized games.
This was the perfect video at the right time! I've been wanting to buy a bunch of these Dell optiplex and tune them like you did, my college has a tech sale every year and get rid of a bunch of these, hopefully I can get my hands on a few and maybe resell them 😀
My daily driver is a HP Compaq Elite 8300 SFF that I've pushed to its absolute limits. Running a delidded Xeon E3-1290 V2 among other over the top gear, for an 10 year old CPU this thing is still incredibly fast. Love SFF builds!
HI Matt i love how you upgrade old devices and turn them into respectable gaming machines. I have an old dell computer running xp and i was wondering what are the best specs/parts i can use for a windows xp build. i don't really need it to be powerful but i have a lot of nostalgia for xp and would like it to perform as best it can
@@ieattwiceaday4116 i see thanks. the dell computer i have is a dell vosotro 200. i plan on replacing the power supply, ram, graphics card and hard drive but don't know what to get
what i usually do for older dells like that is google what the max ram and best cpu is for them and then get them on ebay for 20-40$ each and then find a cheap gpu in the same price category that fits. Though my XP gaming rig is an a8n-sli premium +3800 x2 and a pair of 9800gts i got off ebay cheaply and because i wanted to mess with sli
Matt i just want to say thank you for helping me decide to get the ryzen 7 2700 i have it paired with a nvidia gtx 1660 oc card and its rocking my sox. Ppreciate you homie!
@@ermi9236 They're the last iMac that Can be upgraded. I've upgraded the Hard drive to an SSD, added RAM and I'm in the process of swapping the GPU. @PPASH go on Macrumours they have a huge forum about upgrading 2011 imacs. Go for a nVidea Quadro card. That should be a prettyy much straight swap
This is a great entry PC. I sold my gaming PC two years ago and am kicking my self. I recently bought a optiplex 9020 MBU & I7-4790 for $150 and parted out a bunch of the other components for a grand total of $289. This thing runs well!
This was my first "gaming" pc as well. They were around 100 bucks just a few years ago. Crazy to see the prices nowadays especially when you consider that old tech would always get way cheaper as time went by. These pc's held up their value EXTREMELY well.
i used to game on one of these beasts with integrated graphics. i played so much fallout new vegas, terraria binding of isaac and tf2 on it back in the day.
Tysm! My dad recently brought home a full sized office pc with an 11th gen i5 16gb ram and a500w psu but I was worried I wouldn’t be able to fit a guy in it
I’m From Ireland myself and I bought a gtx 650 from there Cex’s online site and I got a completely different gpu when it arrived it was an amd r9 280x 3gb I was lucky tho. I’d say go in store if u want to buy pc parts, if u bought parts on there site online chances are that you might get something completely different then the item you ordered.
I put that GTX 1650 into my Fujitsu Esprimo E920 office desk PC (i5-4590, 3.3GHz Quadcore / 16 GB RAM / Samsung EVO 500GB SSD) and it performs great. High speed video rendering and draft previews are fluent, Games like GTA5, Just Cause 4 and even the new Resident Evil 3 run at around 62 FPS on all epic settings. Can't complain. Whole PC cost me under 300 Euros.
@@clovernotatroll2302 the whole pc and ssd was cheap.. around 250. The most expensive component was the gpu. I live in canada so I pay more for everything in general
I got the optiplex 7040 with i5 6500 16gb ram, SSD and HDD for around 95 dollars. Then for 60 I found a regular 1650 but requires a 6 pin connector and I used a SATA adapter. It works great. I also found a LG 75HZ 1080p monitor which is perfect for all the games I play. I bartered that down to 40
@@superserval2669 yeah the thing is it's pretty old even when I try to connect to wifi it never worked , or maybe it's my mistake , but I tried ethernet too and it did not work so that's not gonna be good for it .
I did nearly the same thing two weeks ago. I got two SFF Fujitsu PCs for 100€. They had i5 3470‘s, 500gb HDD‘s and 2x4gb RAM. I bought two zotac gtx 1650‘s, 4x4gb RAM (16gb for each pc) and two 250gb ssds. I sold both pcs for around 350€ each 👍🏽
For that system i would actually drill holes on the side panel just so the GPU is able to get more air because in a normal type of system the max i have seen is 55c which if the GPU is going in the 70's then there isn't enough airflow and would be best to have something like that or for someone that would have more heavy duty power tools could cut out a big hole on the side panel and then use a mesh like filter which would be helpful especially if said person would have like a table fan could just angle it and would have some air pushing into the system.
Hafo my friend has a streaming problem he uses a rx 580 and he try’s to stream of Amd’s software and it drops from 100+ FPS to 20-30 and I used my gtx 1060 from my laptop so it really is like a 1050 with 6 gb of video memory and I have no problems streaming of the GeForce experience
I started with an old Optiplex 990 for $15, nothing wrong with it had an i7 2600 and 16gb of ram. put a 500gb SSD and a GTX 1650 Super in it and it works really good.
Yea I honestly just did this with my optiplex. My model is a Haswell so I threw in an e3 1271v3, 16gb of ram, and an MSI 1650. I mostly use it as an arcade machine and a light gaming PC.
Hello, I’m so happy to find your channel because it’s exactly what I need since I’m a beginner to the gaming pc world. Can you recommend a GPU upgrade for a HP envy h81534
I loved upgrading my old i5 2320 based PC, this is my build: - Asus P8P67-M (original) - Intel i5 2320, 3,2 GHz (original) - 2x4Gb DDR3 Kingston 1333 MHz (original) - MSI Ventus XS 1650 Super (upgraded) - Samsung 860 EVO 500G (upgraded) - HDD 500 Gb (original) - Corsair RM550x (upgraded) - CPU cooler Noctua NH-U9S (upgraded) - 2 x 80mm Noctua NF-A8 PWM (out) (upgraded) - 1 x 120mm Noctua NF-A12x25 FLX (in) (upgraded) - Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 con Cherry MX Brown (upgraded) - Logitech G502 HERO (upgraded) - old pc case (original) I'm planning to upgrade my RAM, maybe 2x8 Gb or 4x4 Gb, what's best? You gave me a nice idea for the CPU!
My old job was throwing away 4 optiplex towers. I took them home knowing how easy they are to upgrade. I got the sff model 390. Swapped out the ram, added a Radeon 560 and called it a day. How do you like that cpu? I wanted to swap to an I7 but the performance is almost the same, that I5 is a pretty decent cpu
They give you like a 5 second boot time difference. Turn on Dell's Fastboot wirh a HDD formatted in UEFI and it can boot in 7 seconds flat. (source: my MT Dell Optiplex 390) Specs: i5 2400 R7 360 OC 2GB 6GB DDR3 1333MHz Seasonic 550W
@Thomas Borisov Unless it was a typo and meant to say 200w, I think they're referring to a PCIe slot power limit which is common on small SSF office PCs. In which case, options are limited.
@@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung this information is totally just information but other than boot times (not to mention after a HDD hits over 80% the read/write type changes to be slower to protect data) SSD highly boosts OS operation, game loading (especially in open world games), render speeds, etc. It's just better overall, and they last literal hundreds of times longer under the same use. They also frequently use less power. SSDs really are just overall better technology. The thing is they are, truly, not always necessary, but it's best to always have a dedicated drive for the OS and a secondary and possibly third drive for mass storage and programs.
I actually put the same card in the same version of this prebuilt dell for my younger siblings and they absolutely love it. It works so good for them 😅
I have a 2014 Family PC, it runs games well, but can't handle anyting like ARK or Doom Eternal. I can upgrade it if I wanted to, but I'm gonna buy my parts for my dream PC little by little, this is overall a great video!
LTT coincidentally released a similar video a few days later... sigh. That's why i'd rather support and watch more from the underdogs of the YT tech channels.
Oh lol I didn’t rlly see the likes what games do u wanna see I got a not so good cpu tho it’s an i5 3570 if u wanna see a benchmark just tell me the games I don’t rlly have many games but I am going to get some If u want I could do a fortnite one cos that’s install even tho I don’t rlly play much
Did this exact thing with a hp z210 sff I picked up for $50 with a e3-1245, 8gb, and a 180 ssd. Added this 1650 and for under $300 have a decent gaming system.
A long time ago, i used to play with a WINDOWS XP PC that had 2.99gb ram and a quad core cpu (i dont remember what the cpu was). And it still ran a few games pretty well surprisingly. Oh and btw, by a "long time ago" i actually mean in like 2016 lol.
I used a gtx 1660 and slowly added more to it. So far I’ve added: 24GB ddr3 ram, 750w PSU, and gtx 1660. I’m planning on getting a new motherboard, and AMD based cpu, and case next. (It was an optoiplex 9020 with an i5 cpu)
honestly i was gearing up to agree with you about how these should be avoided, but now that the low profile 1650's are actually at there msrp instead of 200 dollars its actually pretty affordable compared to a full fat tower. i went on ebay and for an i3 version with 4gb of ram you are talking 60 bucks, if you dont want to resell a barebones is 50. a kit of 16gb ddr3 cheapest is 45 dollars and the cpu is 35 dollars. ssd for 240gb is 35 dollars. that is 165 before the gpu. add in the 1650 and you get 325. if you want additional storage a 2tb hard drive is 50 on amazon so 375. i cant find anything to beat that. its a temporary thing sure but for now it is the cheapest way to game. it just limits your upgrades in the future. When i went on ebay you can get for around 250 a mini tower with all the parts listed above (but with a 120gb ssd instead) and no gpu. so that is 410 dollars instead and you have less storage (ssd is half and so is the hard drive). as long as the person isn't planning on upgrading its actually cheaper atm. when the cost of low profile gpus skyrocket they will not be the good pick then. the problem with sff computers is that a gtx 1650 low profile is usually 20 bucks more then a regular gtx 1650 and thats the price difference between an sff and a full sized tower on ebay. you only upgrade your machine if you just need a couple parts. lets use an example. say you have one of these with an i3 and 4gb of ram. so you know you will need a cpu and ram upgrade before considering the gtx 1650. ram for a 16gb kit is 45 dollars. if you are lucky say you find that you can use a 4gb stick in your system (instead of 2x2) and you can get only 12gb for say 35. then you get the xeon you are talking about (also good to know that they work in optiplexes. ive put them in hp OEM machines thanks for that info) cheapest i found was 35. so you have 80 dollars. throw in an SSD (regardless of it has storage or not) a 240gb ssd is around 35 dollars. okay so now that we have that sorted out you have 115 dollars plus 160 dollars which puts you at 275 dollars. now if you bought a computer to upgrade then you can slap 60 dollars on which is 335 dollars and that doesn't include a windows key. meanwhile if you get a full fat tower for 250 bucks you get the i7, 16gb ram, 120gb ssd, 1tb hard drive and then all you have to do is throw in the gtx 1650. i know that is
Im going the Optiplex route. I snagged a 7050 MT with ssd 10 pro and 24 gb ram on eBay last night. A friend a donated a GTX 1050 ti to me Imm excited to get it .
I have that same system except I put in the Xeon e3-1270, upgraded the ram to 16gb as well, and slapped in a gt1030 (gddr5) that I scored for fifty bucks (disclaimer, the 1650 lp didn't exist when I got the system, plus it was out of the budget at the time anyway). I scored the 1270 for just under 40 bucks and the thing runs circles around the original i5 2400 that came with the system. I gotta say though, the 1030 can still rock e-sports games pretty decently and can even hold it's own on some modern titles as well with a few tweaks here and there.
This ran a lot better than I thought it would lol as soon as I heard "Xeon" and "i7 2600 without the integrated graphics" I expected low settings 720p for 30 fps
the idea is when u try to make a small form factor pc you have to be so careful so metals don't touch each other and conduct electricity, and that means that you need to be really careful about the case design, make sure that everything fits and no wires touch fans... that's why it kinda makes sense.
I have a very similar PC except you have a DELL opt. SFF 790 and I have a DELL opt. DT 7010, my specs are : CPU: i7 3770 GPU: GTX 1650 (same one by zotac) RAM: 16 Gb DDR3 the fps is very similar and for those wondering, yes COD:BOCW runs at 60+ fps on low/med on 1080p Also have the stock PSU
if we talkin about used, go amd, the rx 470 is a solid gpu that can be found for less than eu 70 on aliexpress, with no mining experience and it has a 6 pin connector
Is that case about the same size as the Dell Vostro 230? My idea is to use the case, but build a whole new B450 AM4 (3300X, maybe 3400G) but if I go with the video card, what is a good choice for the micro/mini tower? The card you are featuring looks great, but is it a good one for AMD 3000 series? Thanks is the card you used the most powerful, for its size, or are there ones that surpass it?
I have a Dell Optiplex 3010 SFF. The only problem is these SFF GPU's are way too much money. I would love to by a RX560 GTX 1050 OR 1050TI. Even this one 1650. I have 16gb in mine and a i5-4570
Hey Matt I enjoy watching your videos and I just found this one with the Dell Optiplex complete by luck cause im about to do a massive upgrade to my Dell Optiplex 390, and not like in your video with just a cpu and ram upgrade . I be upgrading the whole pc with a new mobo , cpu , memory and power supply , these are the parts i be using in a while. - B450 mini ITX Mobo - Ryzen 7 - 2700X CPU - 16 GB 3200 Memory ( 2 sticks ) - 350 or 400 Watt TFX PSU - RX 6400 4GB Speedster LP GPU The reason I'm doing this build is cause i like the shape of the case and it fits nice in my tv furniture :D BTW i got 2 cases for free so i can use one as the original with spare parts Let me know what you think
How big is the PSU that came in it? I am doing a similar setup with a 5060SFF with an i7-8700 running the 1650 from Gigabyte, 64GB Ram, and 2x 2TB (1NVME + 1SATA) with m.2 Wifi card added. Mine came with a 200watt unit and found a good 260watt, and hoping that will be plenty :)
It should as long as you dont try to overclock but when i put together one of these a few years back with a 1050ti i upgraded the psu to a cheap evga 450b just for peace of mind and i was still able to overclock my 1050ti to about 1900mhz even without a power 6 pin. Those cards were beasts when you could get em around 100 bucks.
@@Direc2 75w. And depending on cpu, it usually consume 174w at worst (without counting HDD or SSD) Oh, and HDD consume 10w per drive whereas SSD consume 5w
Is it okay though if my motherboard is DDR3 and the graphic card is DDR5? My father said the performance would suck because the motherboard only read DDR5 as DDR3 or something.
This was my plan with an Acer Veriton, but the mobo/case didn’t allow for a dual slot card. I transplanted it into an old EMachines case from a much older computer. Not a beast, but great for me.
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Their old PCs: Good CPU for the time, good CPU cooler, 8GB RAM
My schools old PCs: 1 core CPU from the beginning of the century, Intel stock fan, "RAM, whats that?"
@@burgythepuppy most games make use of 16 gbs or more especially at 4k
@@burgythepuppy right, not 4k ofc but at 1080p fs
My school had i3 9100f :D or is it the right model idk
My school has compaqs with core 2 duos
Your school getting a pc's?
How to secretly upgrade your work's PC so you can game when nobody is looking
Step one: say it’s broken
Step two: say you’ll fix it bring it home and add the gpu
Step three: bring it back
Step four: gaime
@@djanjsksnn3317 genius
When your camry has a stage 2 turbocharger tune
Replace the parts with crappy ones and sell the good parts
tell the guy the pc is old for the corporation. and ask to take it. take it and upgrade it!
I was thinking of upgrading this as someone PAID ME to take it off them.
What
Hol up-
what
Lucky af
@HALFBLOOD GAMER *free* thats a great number
Pretty much every old PC with at least 4 cores from Intel can be paired with a new, low powered GPu to make a for a great 1080p gaming system.
Depends on the Manufacturer. Sometimes the PSU is too low to add anything, like 120W. And its also proprietary, so an ATX PSU cannot connect to the prebuilt's motherboard. Then you're screwed.
In fact most prebuilts have non replaceable PSU's. Notice how the PSU was not upgraded in the video
@Gyro Adapters exist but don't work on most HP computers, idk about dell. The motherboards have a Watt limit like the Erica board, you can't supply more than 200W in. So you will need a similar workstation board like the Rother that can take 500. The HP 24 to 6 pin is not supposed to work, reducing the pins in which power is delivered is highly not recommended, there is a high chance of damage to the motherboard.
@@UnintelligentVideos GT1030 might be able to do that with a 30 watt TDP
@@UnintelligentVideos "non replacable psu"
Nothing an angle grinder cant fix ;)
@@jimmycarburator2012Helps me fit full size graphics cards in my sff 9020 anyways 😂 but I am an engineering workshop pro.
Same can be achieved slowly and careful with a 3 dollar mini/junior hacksaw or tinsnips/metal cutters and sandpaper or file to remove rough edges, rattlecan primer and spray paint to taste😂
I actually really enjoy SFF OEM systems. Having a PC the size of an Xbox One S is convenient for media centers and living rooms, and they're easier to move if you want to bring them to LAN parties and such compared to a mid-tower system.
They make ps5 look like a refrigerator by comparison in size😂
Love your videos, sir. Yes, the power supplies in this old machines usually don’t have 6 pin connectors but more importantly they are usually 240-260 watts. Therefore, the low power draw is important. I just upgraded a Dell Optiplex with an i7-3770 CPU by installing a GTX 1050 Ti that I got on Offer Up for $85 and it works great. I tested the system on Unigine Valley using Medium and Ultra settings and the power draw was never over 150 watts. So I have a nice eSports machine for under $250.
@Jezza 04 can we install 1650 on Dell 7050
Hello, I know this is old but how can I know the power draw of my PC?
Great video, just finished a similar setup for my youngest son, but with an i7 3770, 12gb of DDR 3 RAM 1600mhz and a GTX 1050TI, it plays decently at 1080p hight settings on most games and even handles emulation up to the Wii U and Xbox 360 👍 keep up the good work as I really enjoy your videos buddy 💪
I think your build is better lol.
I suggest you to buy 4gb slot so u can use quad channel and have better performance
My rig exactly !
I'm a Graphic Designer....and have NO problem running a lot of graphic intensive programs at the same time.
this will be good for me editing videos?
“smooth experience”
Me: seeing the visuals tear...
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
that's probably just his recording software, pretty sure the actual experience is actually good
He had vsync off so that the games would run higher than 60fps. However, that creates screen tearing.
Simply just turning vsync on will fix it, but you'll find poor performance in some unoptimized games.
I have an old office PC (HP compaq Elite sff) with i7 3770, 16 gb ram, GTX 1650 SUPER and 240w PSU, no problem !
that puts the whole situation of getting a gaming pc in new light
-casual pc 8gb ram i3 2017 stock cooler
-gtx 1650
kinda crazy that old desktops made for browsing the internet have i7s but $800 prebuilts still have i5s
prolly old get i7's
I don’t know but it looked like there was tons of screen tearing?
Bryson Reed probably because he didn’t have vsync on
Yes, was about to point that out, so much tearing it's unbeareable.
my theory is that thats because the video is at 30fps and any small tearings he recorded, we see them 10fold...
@@Narcrate140what is vsync can you tell me??
Ali Afroz vsync is when you sync the frame rate with the screen refresh rate
Dang, this is a tempting Idea.
🤔 imagine making a business out of taking schools old optiplex machines and turning them into an esports machine for a schools esports program
I wanna be at a school that allows games like minecraft, roblox, osu.
@@GamingDerped maybe minecraft, but osu and roblox.. seriously?
@@sergsergesrgergseg no bullying children
Not a bad idea
I love how You yeeted away the driver CD ... XD
I would have also watered it
He should have scrapped it instead.
Regardless, physical drives can be useful
This was the perfect video at the right time! I've been wanting to buy a bunch of these Dell optiplex and tune them like you did, my college has a tech sale every year and get rid of a bunch of these, hopefully I can get my hands on a few and maybe resell them 😀
My daily driver is a HP Compaq Elite 8300 SFF that I've pushed to its absolute limits. Running a delidded Xeon E3-1290 V2 among other over the top gear, for an 10 year old CPU this thing is still incredibly fast. Love SFF builds!
Yo. I got one too. Elite 3000 but I got a pny 1650 graphics card. Will it work?
i dont really know why but these kind of videos are so satisfying
You make something new out of old parts
I like how he talks about how smooth Warzone and Enternal are while the video playing over is stuttering and tearing.
HI Matt i love how you upgrade old devices and turn them into respectable gaming machines. I have an old dell computer running xp and i was wondering what are the best specs/parts i can use for a windows xp build. i don't really need it to be powerful but i have a lot of nostalgia for xp and would like it to perform as best it can
There's a video somewhere in yt that shows how to build a pc that lets you play windows xp games at max settings and it involves a core i2 extreme
@@ieattwiceaday4116 i see thanks. the dell computer i have is a dell vosotro 200. i plan on replacing the power supply, ram, graphics card and hard drive but don't know what to get
Go to cpu upgrade.com or CPU world to compare what CPU you can upgrade too.
what i usually do for older dells like that is google what the max ram and best cpu is for them and then get them on ebay for 20-40$ each and then find a cheap gpu in the same price category that fits. Though my XP gaming rig is an a8n-sli premium +3800 x2 and a pair of 9800gts i got off ebay cheaply and because i wanted to mess with sli
budget builds official just did a video on this. go check him out.
I have a Optiplex 9020 SFF that has 16GB of ram, Windows 10, and a i5-4570. I also bought a GT 730 for it but plan on getting a GTX 1650!
Matt i just want to say thank you for helping me decide to get the ryzen 7 2700 i have it paired with a nvidia gtx 1660 oc card and its rocking my sox. Ppreciate you homie!
isnt the whole idea of a ryzen is a cheap all in one igp option?
I have that Dell pc Optiplex 9020 SSF(Small factor) with CPU Intel core i7 4790, and 32 GB RAM with GTX 1650 -low profile.
my dad had a mid-2011 iMac that he gave me and I'm trying to upgrade it.
it's basically much harder than upgrading a normal pc.
i dont think it is upgradable
i recommend u to buy a new one and i dont think iMacs are upgradable
Macs suck
it can be upgraded but it's too risky.
i'ts hard to find compatible gpus.
@@ermi9236 They're the last iMac that Can be upgraded. I've upgraded the Hard drive to an SSD, added RAM and I'm in the process of swapping the GPU. @PPASH go on Macrumours they have a huge forum about upgrading 2011 imacs. Go for a nVidea Quadro card. That should be a prettyy much straight swap
A huge improvement would dump the old Hard drive and swap in an SSD
And add performance RAM
This is a great entry PC. I sold my gaming PC two years ago and am kicking my self. I recently bought a optiplex 9020 MBU & I7-4790 for $150 and parted out a bunch of the other components for a grand total of $289. This thing runs well!
This was my first "gaming" pc as well. They were around 100 bucks just a few years ago. Crazy to see the prices nowadays especially when you consider that old tech would always get way cheaper as time went by. These pc's held up their value EXTREMELY well.
YES finally an budget videos i love these my entire home page is filled by these budget gaming pc vids
i used to game on one of these beasts with integrated graphics.
i played so much fallout new vegas, terraria binding of isaac and tf2 on it back in the day.
Ring a ding baby!
Tysm! My dad recently brought home a full sized office pc with an 11th gen i5 16gb ram and a500w psu but I was worried I wouldn’t be able to fit a guy in it
prices really blew up since quarantine... :(
Edit: i live in Ireland and the prices here are terrible
Go on cex good gpu and ram prices
I’m From Ireland myself and I bought a gtx 650 from there Cex’s online site and I got a completely different gpu when it arrived it was an amd r9 280x 3gb I was lucky tho. I’d say go in store if u want to buy pc parts, if u bought parts on there site online chances are that you might get something completely different then the item you ordered.
Bandit 909 you got really lucky that gpu isn’t horrible by any means and is for sure better that a 650
I bought the card for about 160 bucks before the prices blew up to almost 200, sadly my card got delayed until May 30th
AliExpress.
It's from China thou, but their prices remain unchange
I put that GTX 1650 into my Fujitsu Esprimo E920 office desk PC (i5-4590, 3.3GHz Quadcore / 16 GB RAM / Samsung EVO 500GB SSD) and it performs great.
High speed video rendering and draft previews are fluent,
Games like GTA5, Just Cause 4 and even the new Resident Evil 3 run at around 62 FPS on all epic settings.
Can't complain.
Whole PC cost me under 300 Euros.
Exactly, been planning to built a budget pc!
Built a similar system with the i7 2600, 16gb ram, gtx1650 with a ssd. Its fast and can play everything on high settings
How much was your pc total?
@@clovernotatroll2302 the whole pc and ssd was cheap.. around 250. The most expensive component was the gpu. I live in canada so I pay more for everything in general
I'd like to see more PCIE-only powered GPUs. Nvidia has pretty much locked this down which is why prices can be high.
Probably would want an SSD for that. A small one is inexpensive and makes the system much more responsive.
Now I know what GPU to use in the Dell I just got from my wife's job. Nice!
integrated graphics uhd intel or vega amd
@@aviral8173 Intel. It's got a 6th gen i7.
I got the optiplex 7040 with i5 6500 16gb ram, SSD and HDD for around 95 dollars. Then for 60 I found a regular 1650 but requires a 6 pin connector and I used a SATA adapter. It works great. I also found a LG 75HZ 1080p monitor which is perfect for all the games I play. I bartered that down to 40
I have a really old PC maybe from lik 2010 or older , but it still has windows vista , and I'm thinking about upgrading or just building a new one .
Natey 55 you probably should, me my self has a old pc with a fx6300 and gt1030 and 8gb of ram so I hear you.
just build a new one by saving up money
@@superserval2669 yeah the thing is it's pretty old even when I try to connect to wifi it never worked , or maybe it's my mistake , but I tried ethernet too and it did not work so that's not gonna be good for it .
Try upgrading using cheap parts
i think you should probably save money and buy a new one
I did nearly the same thing two weeks ago. I got two SFF Fujitsu PCs for 100€. They had i5 3470‘s, 500gb HDD‘s and 2x4gb RAM. I bought two zotac gtx 1650‘s, 4x4gb RAM (16gb for each pc) and two 250gb ssds.
I sold both pcs for around 350€ each 👍🏽
The exact same pc with no gpu costs 120-150€ at my location rip me
i have a dell 3020 with a 1650, works well for me :)
What CPU does it have in it?
Also what power supply ?
For that system i would actually drill holes on the side panel just so the GPU is able to get more air because in a normal type of system the max i have seen is 55c which if the GPU is going in the 70's then there isn't enough airflow and would be best to have something like that or for someone that would have more heavy duty power tools could cut out a big hole on the side panel and then use a mesh like filter which would be helpful especially if said person would have like a table fan could just angle it and would have some air pushing into the system.
did you know what did my cousin do about it? he left the side panel open xD ik that would be a dust cage but he will clean it
Hi, do you prefer amd or nvidia gpus. Just wondering.
from my experience amd relive does not work most of the time. very annoying to try and use. the price for performance is decent though
I always end up with AMD cause of better prices but Radeon Drivers SUCK, FUC**** SUCK, THEYRE REALLY REALLY BROKEN
@@beefyonyt for me relive always work and performance cost is negligible. And I'm talking about an old R7 260x as you can see on my channel
@@ondrejbrandejsky5592 i have a rx 5700 and i never had a problem
Hafo my friend has a streaming problem he uses a rx 580 and he try’s to stream of Amd’s software and it drops from 100+ FPS to 20-30 and I used my gtx 1060 from my laptop so it really is like a 1050 with 6 gb of video memory and I have no problems streaming of the GeForce experience
I started with an old Optiplex 990 for $15, nothing wrong with it had an i7 2600 and 16gb of ram. put a 500gb SSD and a GTX 1650 Super in it and it works really good.
I wanted to to get a gpu for my prebuilt but my wish was crushed when I realized it had PCI slots only smh
Yea I honestly just did this with my optiplex.
My model is a Haswell so I threw in an e3 1271v3, 16gb of ram, and an MSI 1650. I mostly use it as an arcade machine and a light gaming PC.
Hello, I’m so happy to find your channel because it’s exactly what I need since I’m a beginner to the gaming pc world. Can you recommend a GPU upgrade for a HP envy h81534
This channel is really big if you want some help you could ask in forums. That way someone can give you detailed advice on your situation.
gtx 1650??no 6pin connectors which version is this ?? and isnt the cpu bottlneck the gpu ?
Just like old days with 1050ti :')
What a legendary gpu :'), i was surprised that it handled cod mw at 1080p on low and rocks at 60s, and it was a laptop gpu XD
Old days? More like 750ti lol
Cutsom I still love that card
I think it was best budget gpu but rx 570 is much better
Found several aroun ~USD 218 in my place, with i7 3770, 8gb RAM, 500gb HDD. Tempted to build one for by brother haha
I like the sff for putting in the Family room and playing games on the my main tv with a wireless controller
I loved upgrading my old i5 2320 based PC, this is my build:
- Asus P8P67-M
(original)
- Intel i5 2320, 3,2 GHz
(original)
- 2x4Gb DDR3 Kingston 1333 MHz
(original)
- MSI Ventus XS 1650 Super
(upgraded)
- Samsung 860 EVO 500G
(upgraded)
- HDD 500 Gb
(original)
- Corsair RM550x
(upgraded)
- CPU cooler Noctua NH-U9S
(upgraded)
- 2 x 80mm Noctua NF-A8 PWM (out)
(upgraded)
- 1 x 120mm Noctua NF-A12x25 FLX (in)
(upgraded)
- Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 con Cherry MX Brown
(upgraded)
- Logitech G502 HERO (upgraded)
- old pc case (original)
I'm planning to upgrade my RAM, maybe 2x8 Gb or 4x4 Gb, what's best?
You gave me a nice idea for the CPU!
i havent been this early since corona was just a beer
So not long then?
@@shinobi9154 thats like 4 months my guy
ImBlasian corona viruses have existed for longer than 4 months... SARS in 2003 was a type of coronavirus
Chief Yoshi true, but I can’t trust a Fortnite youtuber
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My old job was throwing away 4 optiplex towers. I took them home knowing how easy they are to upgrade. I got the sff model 390. Swapped out the ram, added a Radeon 560 and called it a day. How do you like that cpu? I wanted to swap to an I7 but the performance is almost the same, that I5 is a pretty decent cpu
Why not SSD instead of that HDD?
They give you like a 5 second boot time difference. Turn on Dell's Fastboot wirh a HDD formatted in UEFI and it can boot in 7 seconds flat. (source: my MT Dell Optiplex 390)
Specs:
i5 2400
R7 360 OC 2GB
6GB DDR3 1333MHz
Seasonic 550W
Only if it's a solid HDD mind you.
Mine's a Seagate Barracuda 1TB, 7200 RPM. A solid brand if you ask me
well an idea is to get an intel optane memory to boost up that hdd istead of a ssd while taking the advantage of big storage.
@Thomas Borisov Unless it was a typo and meant to say 200w, I think they're referring to a PCIe slot power limit which is common on small SSF office PCs. In which case, options are limited.
@@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung this information is totally just information but other than boot times (not to mention after a HDD hits over 80% the read/write type changes to be slower to protect data) SSD highly boosts OS operation, game loading (especially in open world games), render speeds, etc. It's just better overall, and they last literal hundreds of times longer under the same use. They also frequently use less power. SSDs really are just overall better technology. The thing is they are, truly, not always necessary, but it's best to always have a dedicated drive for the OS and a secondary and possibly third drive for mass storage and programs.
I actually put the same card in the same version of this prebuilt dell for my younger siblings and they absolutely love it. It works so good for them 😅
man, i need to buy this for my HP compaq 6300
Did you ever do it I’m thinking of doing it
@@khii8953 If you've got a core i5 3rd gen or better in there then you'll be able to play lots of games if you add the 1650 in there.
I have the Hp Pro Compaq 6300
I have a 2014 Family PC, it runs games well, but can't handle anyting like ARK or Doom Eternal.
I can upgrade it if I wanted to, but I'm gonna buy my parts for my dream PC little by little, this is overall a great video!
Wow, I’m early
Hiiiiiii people and hi Matt, love your vids
IceyHistory thought you said love your kids
hi early im dad
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Simon Bennett 😂
@@hridayawesomeheart9477 hi, dad, I’m early
Nice video. I’m upgrading my optiplex with a 500w psu, a hd 7870 and a new case
Can you do one for old acer veritons?
Thank you. I'm looking at getting a gtx 1650 for my sort of old, but still old office pc. This really helped alot!
My pc: 2 core cpu
4gb ram
My school’s pc: ryzen 5 2600
16 gb ram
Rx 570
lol my school have i7s and 16Gb ram.
Well kids in your school have a solid argument about with pc they need to study
LTT coincidentally released a similar video a few days later... sigh. That's why i'd rather support and watch more from the underdogs of the YT tech channels.
wow my gpu just came in the mail just my luck that's crazy lol
You should do a benchmark video on it
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Oh lol I didn’t rlly see the likes what games do u wanna see
I got a not so good cpu tho it’s an i5 3570 if u wanna see a benchmark just tell me the games I don’t rlly have many games but I am going to get some
If u want I could do a fortnite one cos that’s install even tho I don’t rlly play much
Just got mine a week ago too
zoinks nice I get quite a bit of stutter on fortnite idk what’s the prob wether it’s my ram or cpu idek
Did this exact thing with a hp z210 sff I picked up for $50 with a e3-1245, 8gb, and a 180 ssd. Added this 1650 and for under $300 have a decent gaming system.
hello people stay at home and be safe alright! love ur vid mat
A long time ago, i used to play with a WINDOWS XP PC that had 2.99gb ram and a quad core cpu (i dont remember what the cpu was). And it still ran a few games pretty well surprisingly. Oh and btw, by a "long time ago" i actually mean in like 2016 lol.
Damn that cable management is mildy infuriating
Happens often with those budget cases
You can’t do much management with an sff
It is important to note that these slim dell optiplex mobos have their own 8 pin standard for motherboard power, instead of the 24 pin
I wanted to do something like this, but instead i built a shit pc
What specs?
What are the specs
That could have happened to anyone, shit happens and we learn from our errors
I used a gtx 1660 and slowly added more to it. So far I’ve added: 24GB ddr3 ram, 750w PSU, and gtx 1660. I’m planning on getting a new motherboard, and AMD based cpu, and case next.
(It was an optoiplex 9020 with an i5 cpu)
fastest click in the west
my school has sli dual rtx 3090 ti's with inteil i9 10900k 364gb ram 10000mhz
Dell optiplex 7020 SFF. i74790K/GTX1650-GDDR6/32GB-1600RAM.
Is that what u got and what did h upgrade the gpu and cpu
@@atme7375 GPU, CPU is on the way. Ram sitting at 20GB+4 on the way.
@@LOOTLORD605 sry I’m confused, when u got this pc what was the specs and what have you upgraded
Bought it in a good deal without HDD.
i went all out and bought the E3-1230, GTX 1650, 16GB ram, 500GB 860 Evo SSD, and 2TB Seagate Barracuda HDD for it.
Most companies have preconfigure profiles that dont have admin privilege.
In my case, I lowkey plugged my extra SSD with separate OS and the GPU.
honestly i was gearing up to agree with you about how these should be avoided, but now that the low profile 1650's are actually at there msrp instead of 200 dollars its actually pretty affordable compared to a full fat tower. i went on ebay and for an i3 version with 4gb of ram you are talking 60 bucks, if you dont want to resell a barebones is 50. a kit of 16gb ddr3 cheapest is 45 dollars and the cpu is 35 dollars. ssd for 240gb is 35 dollars. that is 165 before the gpu. add in the 1650 and you get 325. if you want additional storage a 2tb hard drive is 50 on amazon so 375. i cant find anything to beat that. its a temporary thing sure but for now it is the cheapest way to game. it just limits your upgrades in the future. When i went on ebay you can get for around 250 a mini tower with all the parts listed above (but with a 120gb ssd instead) and no gpu. so that is 410 dollars instead and you have less storage (ssd is half and so is the hard drive). as long as the person isn't planning on upgrading its actually cheaper atm. when the cost of low profile gpus skyrocket they will not be the good pick then.
the problem with sff computers is that a gtx 1650 low profile is usually 20 bucks more then a regular gtx 1650 and thats the price difference between an sff and a full sized tower on ebay. you only upgrade your machine if you just need a couple parts. lets use an example. say you have one of these with an i3 and 4gb of ram. so you know you will need a cpu and ram upgrade before considering the gtx 1650.
ram for a 16gb kit is 45 dollars. if you are lucky say you find that you can use a 4gb stick in your system (instead of 2x2) and you can get only 12gb for say 35.
then you get the xeon you are talking about (also good to know that they work in optiplexes. ive put them in hp OEM machines thanks for that info) cheapest i found was 35. so you have 80 dollars. throw in an SSD (regardless of it has storage or not) a 240gb ssd is around 35 dollars.
okay so now that we have that sorted out you have 115 dollars plus 160 dollars which puts you at 275 dollars.
now if you bought a computer to upgrade then you can slap 60 dollars on which is 335 dollars and that doesn't include a windows key.
meanwhile if you get a full fat tower for 250 bucks you get the i7, 16gb ram, 120gb ssd, 1tb hard drive and then all you have to do is throw in the gtx 1650. i know that is
Im going the Optiplex route. I snagged a 7050 MT with ssd 10 pro and 24 gb ram on eBay last night. A friend a donated a GTX 1050 ti to me Imm excited to get it .
24 gb ram? How many Google tabs are you going to open
@@haxorman6969 I had it so lying around I put it to use lol. Just bought a GTX1650 super and a 6pin adapter. Hopefully this fits !
I have that same system except I put in the Xeon e3-1270, upgraded the ram to 16gb as well, and slapped in a gt1030 (gddr5) that I scored for fifty bucks (disclaimer, the 1650 lp didn't exist when I got the system, plus it was out of the budget at the time anyway). I scored the 1270 for just under 40 bucks and the thing runs circles around the original i5 2400 that came with the system. I gotta say though, the 1030 can still rock e-sports games pretty decently and can even hold it's own on some modern titles as well with a few tweaks here and there.
I thought this was really cool. thanks for sharing :) One day I'm hoping to convert that old XBOX back there into a gaming PC
I literally just did this same exact upgrade on my Inspiron 3668! small world!
basically what i got the thing is gtx 1650 for 150 dollars doesnt seem to be worth
It is if you need to upgrade your psu because it only requires 75 w its easier to install to
The graphics card works on the Lenovo m800pc
This ran a lot better than I thought it would lol
as soon as I heard "Xeon" and "i7 2600 without the integrated graphics" I expected low settings 720p for 30 fps
I just wish these small form factor versions weren’t so much more expensive than the other versions
the idea is when u try to make a small form factor pc you have to be so careful so metals don't touch each other and conduct electricity, and that means that you need to be really careful about the case design, make sure that everything fits and no wires touch fans... that's why it kinda makes sense.
My optiplex 790:
Gigabyte low profile GTX 1650
16gb DDR3 1333 mhz
Xeon E1230
500gb Samsung 860 EVO ssd
500gb WD Blue HDD
I have a very similar PC except you have a DELL opt. SFF 790 and I have a DELL opt. DT 7010,
my specs are :
CPU: i7 3770
GPU: GTX 1650 (same one by zotac)
RAM: 16 Gb DDR3
the fps is very similar and for those wondering, yes COD:BOCW runs at 60+ fps on low/med on 1080p
Also have the stock PSU
i have the same build except the MSI 1050 Ti in it and was considering putting this card in it too thanks!!
I wouldn't say these were the most powerful plug and ply gpu but the most coat effective for sure .
if we talkin about used, go amd, the rx 470 is a solid gpu that can be found for less than eu 70 on aliexpress, with no mining experience and it has a 6 pin connector
RX 470 is high profile card and cannot fit into SFF P.C
@@seebauong9593 ik, but we talkin about gpus in general
Is that case about the same size as the Dell Vostro 230? My idea is to use the case, but build a whole new B450 AM4 (3300X, maybe 3400G) but if I go with the video card, what is a good choice for the micro/mini tower? The card you are featuring looks great, but is it a good one for AMD 3000 series? Thanks is the card you used the most powerful, for its size, or are there ones that surpass it?
I have a Dell Optiplex 3010 SFF. The only problem is these SFF GPU's are way too much money. I would love to by a RX560 GTX 1050 OR 1050TI. Even this one 1650. I have 16gb in mine and a i5-4570
Hey Matt I enjoy watching your videos and I just found this one with the Dell Optiplex complete by luck cause im about to do a massive upgrade to my Dell Optiplex 390, and not like in your video with just a cpu and ram upgrade . I be upgrading the whole pc with a new mobo , cpu , memory and power supply , these are the parts i be using in a while.
- B450 mini ITX Mobo
- Ryzen 7 - 2700X CPU
- 16 GB 3200 Memory ( 2 sticks )
- 350 or 400 Watt TFX PSU
- RX 6400 4GB Speedster LP GPU
The reason I'm doing this build is cause i like the shape of the case and it fits nice in my tv furniture :D
BTW i got 2 cases for free so i can use one as the original with spare parts
Let me know what you think
How big is the PSU that came in it? I am doing a similar setup with a 5060SFF with an i7-8700 running the 1650 from Gigabyte, 64GB Ram, and 2x 2TB (1NVME + 1SATA) with m.2 Wifi card added. Mine came with a 200watt unit and found a good 260watt, and hoping that will be plenty :)
i also have 790sff laying at my room..now i'm thinking about upgrading it..thanks for the video!
Does a graphics card by itself increase FPS? Like if u were to only add a graphics card in the computer you used in the vid would u get good FPS
yes but it depends on what card
perfect this is noice You are my favourite techtuber bro
Dont u have to change the power supply? Average sff pc power supply watt is 200w. Is that even enough to power the gtx 1650 low profile?
It should as long as you dont try to overclock but when i put together one of these a few years back with a 1050ti i upgraded the psu to a cheap evga 450b just for peace of mind and i was still able to overclock my 1050ti to about 1900mhz even without a power 6 pin. Those cards were beasts when you could get em around 100 bucks.
Optiplex has 240w psu minimum, 275w for tower version.
So it's pretty safe.
@@wisdoom9153 how much power does gtx 1650 need?
@@Direc2 75w.
And depending on cpu, it usually consume 174w at worst (without counting HDD or SSD)
Oh, and HDD consume 10w per drive whereas SSD consume 5w
@@Direc2 oh wait, USFF optiplex has 180w psu... Not that you can fit a gpu anyway. 😅
Is it okay though if my motherboard is DDR3 and the graphic card is DDR5? My father said the performance would suck because the motherboard only read DDR5 as DDR3 or something.
This was my plan with an Acer Veriton, but the mobo/case didn’t allow for a dual slot card. I transplanted it into an old EMachines case from a much older computer. Not a beast, but great for me.