How to scream: why Power ≠ Tone

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  • Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
  • David talks about the #powervocalchallenge that is circulating social media right now and about the misconception is raises about how "power" in metal vocals is achieved. Learn about the different factors that go into improving your tone to increase how others perceive your vocal power.
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Комментарии • 45

  • @zachhowarth7926
    @zachhowarth7926 Год назад +9

    That overtone decrease at 15:19 was insane!! Incredible. Fountain of knowledge.

  • @damienfoley467
    @damienfoley467 4 года назад +21

    i honestly dont think your channel gets enough attention you have an excellent channel and you have helped me through these first few months of learning how to scream. thanks for the help and keep it up

    • @ExtremeVocalInstitute
      @ExtremeVocalInstitute  4 года назад +4

      Thanks so much for watching! We’re glad to hear it helps! 🤘

    • @Xbuster6
      @Xbuster6 3 года назад +2

      His channel should be growing much more in the future. Just keep up the awesome videos, even if some of it is recapping some topics it never hurts and will only help more people find you and your advice : )

  • @AliyahDayeVocals
    @AliyahDayeVocals 4 года назад +24

    I think it's definitely true for singing! When my singing sounds worst is when I'm pushing my voice too hard. Whereas it sounds best when allowing proper balance between pushing and relaxing at the right times and in the right places, which ends up allowing true emotion to shine through. I never really thought the same would apply to growls as well but it does make sense. Great video!

    • @ExtremeVocalInstitute
      @ExtremeVocalInstitute  4 года назад +9

      Balance is the key to a healthy and sustainable sound. As we said, pushing is the number one cause of injury amongst extreme vocalists, so learning how to achieve power without push is crucial for longevity!

    • @kingstonjensen5589
      @kingstonjensen5589 3 года назад +1

      Instablaster.

    • @Xbuster6
      @Xbuster6 3 года назад +1

      Yeah it’s easy to push a lot that’s why this guy’s videos and others like them are really helpful so we really owe this guy for reminding us of what should be obvious

  • @highonheroin5352
    @highonheroin5352 Год назад

    You really are a different breed David Benites

  • @zsoltunterweger9367
    @zsoltunterweger9367 10 месяцев назад

    We really have to work on ourselves mentally, to understand what's happening and why, maybe with your guidance we can!

  • @romiokasuga
    @romiokasuga 2 года назад

    I dont know why i just discovered this channel lately! But it feels like a gold mine !
    Thank you

  • @HarryNott
    @HarryNott 2 года назад

    I know this is one of the channel's lesser seen videos, but finding this at a time when I was refining my vocal technique (thanks to EVI's other videos!) was extremely helpful. In conjunction with making sure I wasn't pushing, especially in a live/microphone context, you helped me understand the shifting nature of pressure and when to apply more and less - specifically an adequate amount of power to get the sound and then working with tone from there on my lows. All really, really helpful stuff. Thank you for your visualisation, I'll likely be taking one-on-ones with you next year. Thanks.

  • @themixmusicandmore6280
    @themixmusicandmore6280 8 месяцев назад

    My first big breakthrough watching your videos was realizing I was doing my fry scream way too intense. I loosened and lightened it up and no more being out of breath, no more headaches, and it sounds better! Win/win! Sadly I think I damaged my voice because my fry doesn't sound as good as it once did

  • @gamesjibson
    @gamesjibson Год назад

    Very informative video. The one bit that helped things click for me was the bit about belting. Usually I find myself pushing a lot for that belting sensation but never thought to compare it to the relaxed feeling when belting a normal singing note. Even with a half-arsed scream or through a relaxed throat singing type sound, applying the same logic purely with intent behind it rather than force gave me a new perspective on things. Awesome

  • @hughjanus6041
    @hughjanus6041 2 года назад

    One of the best teachers out there brother. Thanks 🤘

  • @thedevilworshipsmexiii
    @thedevilworshipsmexiii 3 года назад

    So happy I found you. I'm looking forward to learning as much as I can. 10/10 for content.

  • @Tempest_Stream
    @Tempest_Stream 2 года назад

    Been binging your videos, so informative and such a great vibe from the host. Your channel is golden, if I ever do anything with my screaming, I’ll point them to you.

  • @LOLyANO88
    @LOLyANO88 2 года назад

    wow thanks, the only video that helped me to understand what is "volume" at screams!!

  • @skyyhyy
    @skyyhyy 3 года назад

    This is why I respect you immensely hope to get back on the vocal institute on fb group

  • @Varxiva
    @Varxiva 2 года назад

    Thank you soooo much for all your invaluable lessons! I often found myself worried about trying to be louder, when I sounded better at my current power, assisted with a mic

  • @hangmanspark
    @hangmanspark 3 года назад +3

    While I definitely agree someone shouldn't strain or be extremely tense while screaming, I have to say volume and a certain amount of pressure helps my tone A LOT. If I scream without a certain level of pressure and volume, (especially my mids/lows) it sounds hollow and croaky or even weak.

    • @ExtremeVocalInstitute
      @ExtremeVocalInstitute  3 года назад +5

      Pressure ≠ push. Lows, especially more open ones, will require more pressure to sustain the sound than a high scream but you still don’t want to overdo it with the air or rely on force for your tone
      Here’s a video that explains more about air pressure: ruclips.net/video/Wj-gqIPy_44/видео.html

    • @hangmanspark
      @hangmanspark 3 года назад

      @@ExtremeVocalInstitute right on thank you!

  • @Xerjii
    @Xerjii 4 года назад +1

    Fuckin love this guy, you rock.

  • @plastikhippie
    @plastikhippie Год назад

    Hi everyone I'm Ian and im just glad to be here.

  • @theeDJKlondyke
    @theeDJKlondyke 9 месяцев назад

    Do you know anything about the Alexander Technique? Just picked up a book for singing with awareness to start developing other good habits for singing and screaming, as I start this path.

  • @asriel522
    @asriel522 2 года назад +3

    3:14 meanwhile Alex Terrible: *dEMoLiSheR*

  • @cardi-nale
    @cardi-nale 4 года назад

    That was really helpful, thanks 😊🤘

  • @ryanguidos1777
    @ryanguidos1777 Год назад

    I find if I'm too loud voice cracks an it's not comfortable I figured I only have to get it to the mic I mean I do push alot but I don't try to get to loud

  • @ryanguidos1777
    @ryanguidos1777 Год назад

    I can only do the fry but idk if I'm doing a hybrid

  • @mixinmasta
    @mixinmasta 4 года назад +3

    Heres something: if you creating this sound with your diaphragm...and trying to do behemoth style vocals... then yea this isnt possible.
    You have to use your abdominal muscles. The way i do it is control. Absolute control

    • @ExtremeVocalInstitute
      @ExtremeVocalInstitute  4 года назад

      It’s absolutely possible! It’s all about balance 😊

    • @mixinmasta
      @mixinmasta 4 года назад

      @@ExtremeVocalInstitute Balance is key. i totally agree!!!

    • @mixinmasta
      @mixinmasta 4 года назад

      @@ExtremeVocalInstitute my vocals while sounding super loud and damaging....it doesnt do any real damage that ive noticed. its just super loud lol

    • @Karaz76
      @Karaz76 3 года назад

      Also, keep in mind that Nergal said in an interview that he's not capable of doing this kind of scream anymore. Or at least, he doesn't want to because it damaged his voice in the past.
      So yeah, possible, but with care and control.

  • @mixinmasta
    @mixinmasta 4 года назад

    is this the same channel that hosts the fb group? lol

  • @pidondeyle3630
    @pidondeyle3630 4 года назад +6

    Bruh

  • @wecckyou
    @wecckyou 3 года назад +2

    18m and not a single scream to show what you can do? lame

    • @TerminalOingoBoingo
      @TerminalOingoBoingo 3 года назад +7

      You didnt watch the whole video lol

    • @richardjohnson8991
      @richardjohnson8991 3 года назад +2

      He does several screams in this video if you actually watched and listened to it. If you wanted to just hear david screaming you could check out his band instead of a vocal lesson