I really hope Jen helps with the bus build. Kyle needs help. He can't build it all on his own. Please don't just tell him he will get it done by Feb. Please help him, your capable, you can do this together
Also file a complaint with the BBB. What they left you with from the money you gave them. I need to calm down. This is ridiculous and I literally hope there is a way you get money back and the company that are crooks. Y’all are so selfless and caring. Heart broken for y’all. Hope you get justice.
I haven’t even finished and my heart breaks for you all. I’m so sorry this happened to you, I would look into a lawsuit against them. That is ridiculous!
I'm just going to say that my beautiful bus that you guys toured and featured on your channel that was built out from the chassis all the way up adding a new body and everything that entails plus all the interior only cost me 90K
Your bus is absolutely exquisite Lainie!!!!! It’s so sad this happened and it’s taken us a lot to process it all. We feel at peace with where we are at with it all and excited to get her built 🥰 Also! I’ll send you a message later and find out where yall are! I wanna come hug you!!!!
Betrayal is one the WORST feeling one can experience! I know you trusted the builder/friend since they did Blue Betty...now this! I have a conscience;they do NOT!
Man I feel so bad for you guys. Ill be sure to watch along, and watch the ads even though they annoy me 😂. You guys will get through this you're pretty resilient. ❤️
I've been watching you guys for years. Now it's too painful to continue. If there's a lesson from this I hope that you come to understand that you can be kind to people, but also not trust people's word and require written contracts. Hoping the community in Quartzsite can help you guys get this bus done. Be well.
I’m so very sorry that these people are swindler’s. I hope there is a way you can get an attorney and get your money back. You don’t deserve any of this. You’re such selfless people. Sending good vibes and juju your way and hope and love. ❤️ 😊
We truly believed we had built a foundation of trust and mutual respect, which is why this situation is so deeply disheartening for us. We feel compelled to address something that has been weighing heavily on our hearts. While we understand that the project did not end the way any of us envisioned, it is important to recognize the financial reality of what happened. The scope of the work you requested exceeded the budget we initially agreed upon. Despite this, we continued to pour our time, energy, and resources into the project, but it became unsustainable for us to move forward without compensation for the additional work. What truly saddens us now is seeing posts on social media that paint a picture as though we intentionally wronged you. It feels like the trust and goodwill we had has been replaced with blame and accusations, which does not reflect the spirit of the friendship and collaboration we shared. And in all of this, I worked tirelessly for you-both times-for free, pouring everything I had into helping you, yet you never even offered a thank you. That lack of appreciation has been especially painful. We are trying to approach this situation with kindness and fairness, but if these public accusations and social media posts continue, we will have no choice but to seek legal action. It is also important to acknowledge that this situation was as much your responsibility as ours. By allowing things to unfold this way, we all contributed to this outcome, and it has caused harm to everyone involved. We also want to make it clear that we have every video, text message, and email we exchanged throughout this process. If you truly want to point fingers, the full history of our communication will reflect the facts. We encourage us all to reflect on this experience with grace and accountability. We have always sought to be transparent and fair, and we hope you can recognize the effort and care we put into your project. This is not how we wanted things to end, but we believe there is a lesson here for all of us about communication, boundaries, and mutual respect. Please understand that our intention is not to point fingers but to advocate for fairness and to protect the integrity of our work and reputation. We hope we can move forward in a way that fosters understanding and peace, even if that means going our separate ways. Wishing you clarity and resolution,
Hey guys, as a long time follower and a newer bus builder myself i have to say that everything being custom in a bus is very time consuming and very hard to estimate time. And i know you both know that as well, just sharing my experience. The time line of 3 weeks to finish it was wildly optimistic and not close to realistic. I can see100k in work/labor if that makes you feel any better. Based on the craftsmanship that i could see on your tour. Maybe it’s not as nice as it looks, but it does look nice from the video perspective. My prayers are with you guys if there’s anything I can do to help you’re more than welcome to come to my shop and get a free helping hand. ❤
Agreed. Theres more to this story than whats being shared. They've stated that this guy "was" a friend. Hard to believe that a friend would leave them hanging and not offer any options.... and give them money back. Doesnt seem very friend like to weaponize a yt to the extent of destroying the builders reputation. From my understanding, the builder offered vlogging as an option for promoting both channels and they declined. kinda ironic that Kyle is now creating a "bus conversion" channel
@@wickedwonderer-20that’s a helluva opinion. They got severely scammed and left with a half done bus home without working water with kids and quite a few dogs.
I’m so sad this has happened to your beautiful family. I will keep your channel rolling each day on reruns with adds even when I’m not home. I will leave my computer and tv on the reruns. I really hope this will help out a little. Love you guys 🥰💔🥰💔
I have severe panic issues but I can travel the country, mostly by myself if no one wants to go. I focus on the fun I’m going to have when I get there! It’s not easy but it’s certainly worth it. Reading or watching a movie helps tons, or dozing off. I’ve been from the west to east coast several times, plus cross country in a car twice. Have a happy new year and best of health to all! I look forward to you keeping on! I’m sorry what a bad situation this turned out to be but you will muddle through. Cheers! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I once got schystered and the wily dude did not want to return my money and got half back of what was owed. Someone with integrity would return the money knowing that they did not own up to their part of the deal. Also, someone with integrity would not have strung along the project in such a way, in my opinion. Uncool. 10 months in and then to tell you they need more money and feel like they are working for free? Something seems amiss. Sorry to hear.
I'm all in to fully support your channel and the adventures this build will bring. I have the up most respect for your attitude and how you are moving forward. I was shocked to see this play out and really expected you to say just kidding. I haven't watched the live yet but will here soon. I lived a similar situation with my daughter and grandson in small quarters and would love to return to that lifestyle for I have the best memories from those days. I am certain all of you will carry your best memories as well.
Awwww! Jeri! We are so glad you’re here with us! I wish we were able to say just kidding for sure. At this point, we are so excited to put our hands on Daisy and turn her into a beautiful home 💛
Oh my goodness, I am so sorry, guys. I do love your positive attitudes. You can either move forward and finish or wallow and get nowhere. I would definitely think about if you had a contract with builders, it's ok to speak to someone about your legal rights. I am praying for you guys. Hang in there!❤
I went and joined this channel after they remodeled Blue Betty. My hope was on the channel I might get Daisey sneak peeks. I was curious why they were not publishing that much. They showed some other projects mostly. I would love to broadcast their channel... but the negative energy wouldn't help....However, in time another fine couple will fall into their trap again...Wish you guys the best....
We feel the same way Mike. We thought there would be more updates of Daisy, but as time went on, energy got weird. After what we have learned since we picked up the bus, I’m really grateful the universe stepped in and saved us. Now we can finish her and put our spin on her. I hope others see the flags that we didn’t want to be real before it’s too late for them. The darkness is eventually enough to the light 💛
Sending good postive vibes for 2025. It's needs the final push. Fantastic lay out. You will get there. If anyone wants to sort a just giving page I would support to get them to finish it.
Now that you have sat with Daisy for a while hopefully things are looking better than you originally thought. 🙏. Will you be selling Blue Betty to help witj the costs of finishing Daisy?
Short term plan: Bring the bus back to the property. Both of you get full time jobs in the town for 1 year. Stash that cash and get the bus done that year and make vids about the build. Long term plan: I don't see it ending. Do you? It might not be what you want or like but sometimes doing what you don't like brings the best out of you. Not trying to be mean I just see a good quick and safe solution. I will still be here watchin as your fan.
Yeah, the hard stop for us was when we were given the two options. We couldn’t justify financing more money for an unlimited amount of time, they weren’t able to give a date when it would be ready. We knew we just needed to go get here and I’m grateful we did.
If I'm not mistaken, the builder did the Blue Betty upgrades. Which they documented on their YT channel. I was quite surprised, this build was not documented/vlog on his channel. I have unsubscribe from his channel. Feeling sad for the Bethunes. Will be praying for you all.
This really seems like your contractor did not give an accurate quote, and was in over their head. So unfortunate. I understand your desire to not take legal action, and I don’t know if you had any contract, but a good lesson for everyone in the importance of contract law! It’s easy for projects to get out of hand, and it really falls to them to right this wrong.
He should be put out of business. They should have an itemized list of all costs. I'm seeing this all across the country! People getting scammed left and right! It's not like they lost 5 bucks..omg almost $130,000! I'm furious..for everyone out there getting screwed over.
@FreddietheFly I know that. Just like a factory built RV can cost upwards of 2 million dollars. So if you're planning on living cheap, you're doing wrong when you're spending over 120 thousand on a bus that's going to last way less than a house and cost just as much and maybe more for upkeep and maintenance.
I am sorry you have to go through this and your right with your perspective on all of this. Moving forward is the only thing to do.... get it done and move forward. Is there any legal recourse you have? not sure how it all goes but I would like there is a contract or estimate for this? Sometimes it just easier to learn and move forward. You guys are awesome and have a great frame of mind! Thank you for sharing with all of us.... Blessings to you all.... :-)
Wow 124000 and that’s what’s done? On the plus side it looks like mostly finishing items like ceiling and floor and trim . The build it’s they did are beautifully done . I’m sure once you get the couches built and the sinks in it will come together . At least you have the experience from blue Betty . You got this
Y’all. I cannot believe your builders did this to you!!! It makes me so very angry. I imagine your roller coaster of emotions. This too will make you stronger. I do admire you both for not bashing the builder. I think I would have.
If you don't have 124 thousand dollars worth of work or materials, why don't you make a police report for fraud?? These people might be doing this to others and if you don't report them, they're going to continue doing it.
This is beyond shameful!! No way is what has been done was worth over $120k. I would absolutely be suing the builder. Why did they keep 1/2 of what was left??
I’m sorry they were not able to follow through with their work. Sounds like they needed to plan better. I admire your attitude. Not sure I could be that calm so quickly. Good luck with finishing it out. Question, for the living room, can you maybe find ready made furniture that can be modified to be attached to the floors instead of making it all?
Thank you 💛 It’s for sure not what we planned on doing, but I feel like it’s going to work out so much better than we ever expected. They did provide us with all the remaining materials that weren’t installed. There is a couch, and Kyle will build a platform for it to sit on so we can have 3 cubbies to fit floor poufs on for extra seating. Kyle has become so great at building things. I know he is going to enjoy making the cabinets and putting his hand on this bus. It’s all gonna turn out awesome 💛
💥💥💥💥Bummed, I didn't catch the BB live stream. I can only assume no paper work was signed between the two of you and the contractor. It is so frustrating and it makes me so angry that not only is it unprofessional to keep asking for more money because as they'll say we had no idea we would run into this kind of a problem with the build. Nothing I am saying is to make you guys feel worse about what has occurred in the end because I'm sure you feel bad enough even though you are moving on. One thing I've learned and I'm older than you guys is it's got to be in writing it's got to be signed and I can't believe knowing you Jen that you would give them as you said in this video a couple of times creative control. I remember way back before Daisy was getting billed that you guys said we have figured out now what we want how we want it how to create the most space etcetera so it seems a little bit confusing that you gave them creative control yet you knew exactly what you wanted. Either way what I don't like and what's upsetting me about this is this is a massive part of your guy's lives building a home on Wheels and it seems like there wasn't enough lawyer type things happening which must happen I know it's hard up front to make agreements with people keeping commitments with people and making sure that they are doing what they said they would do that was on the contract between the two of you because there's one thing you should never feel and that's that you were bugging them or hustling them and I don't know if you have ever had that type of relationship with this contractor I just don't know but what I do know is there was a lot left out and unfortunately that isn't the way life works I figured it all out too late myself by being kind wanting to be understanding know he's there and you are the owner of a home that he is rebuilding and if he doesn't know the cost of things then it's a major red flag. I'm so bummed I did not get to hear how you did this how you made the two of you agree on things it actually fascinates me I'm very into law and also integrity and your word. But I also know what it's like to have somebody tell you over and over I didn't think we'd run into this we need 10 moregrand. You know what you should have thought of that before anyways I could go on and on I wish I knew what happened that created this type of over expenditure and putting you in a position to now have to build the rest of Daisy. You said you had no running water and then you said but we are able to whatever it was wash dishes or take a shower so we know the water pump is working and we know that the house batteries are working why is it that you can't get water I'm just a little bit confused on that that's not I'm sure the most important part but having running water is very important. In addition you are getting running water but not everywhere and I'm very interested in why. Anyways I would love to hear in the future what you learned about doing this entire new home build. I love you guys I love you guys so much I'm so glad I am a FRAM. ❤❤❤❤😅
Oh my gosh, this is so horrible... I live in a home that they had fixed until I purchased it, and everything has gone wrong. This is heartbreaking for yall.
You titled the video correctly. It sure is a disaster. I missed your live so couldn't ask more questions. I know you don't want to say anything more about this but I need to give my opinion. For $124,000 I don't see anything near that amount of work completed. I would be furious and seeking legal advice.
They didn't live up to the contract !!! I'm upset for y'all. Yes it SUCKS.. sending love your way. For 125k all the utilities of the bus should be up and running, where the heck did all the money go? They quoted the price and should have stuck with their word, unless fairly renegotiated. I'm so darn mad for y'all, I better stop typing!!! Lol Y'all didn't deserve this, but you will grow, become stronger and overcome. Love from Kentucky
This is awful! I am struggling financially too I’m very sorry 😞 it’s insane this has happened 😮 you can not get reimbursed through civil courts? I would try
I'm heart broken and mad for you guys, but then looking at it, it seems like they did a good job on what they did. What kind of bus is it? Don't forget to keep that open space for the Christmas tree :)
We feel you Laurie. It’s been a rollercoaster of emotions. I’m grateful there’s as much done as there is. It’s for sure liveable and the kids are insanely stoked about their area!
My question to Jen is… do you have panic when you are driving, such as when you drive the van alone? I can’t drive anymore due to mine, I’m afraid of hurting someone if I get in panic mode. I do drive super short distances, but not on highways only on back roads if that.,
Great question! I’m sorry that you have to live with panic too. It’s such a shitty thing to manage. I’m proud of you for continuing to grow day by day! This isn’t easy stuff 💛 When I am driving alone and have Theodore, I still have panic. However, Theodore keeps me grounded and driving helps me focus on my senses and stay in the present moment. If I am driving with anyone else in the car. I hate it. I feel so responsible and it takes so much of my focus and energy to stay grounded, even with Theodore. I try not to drive other people because it’s not fun for me. Then, if I drive with Kyle and the kids, I’m a total mess and I would absolutely cause an accident in a big city. To be responsible for the entire family puts me into big panic. I feel I can drive by myself best because I was involved in a fender bender once years before our crash that killed Ethan. I was fine in the fender bender, so my mind associates that with being an okay reality. When driving all together, my brain has seen the reality of “we are all riding by together and someone could die” so the entire time we are together in a car, my brain is working against me and showing me horrific images of us dying because my brain senses imminent fear, even though we are all okay in that moment. My brain has seen the moment change to worse. So, it’s trying to get me to stoo the car and get out because it’s seen what can happen. Does that make sense? Lol, I try to give a full description of what I am experiencing so others that have it can feel not so alone.
Same thing happened to my brother . They payed a company an outrageous amount of money up front to remodel a master bath, kitchen and a few others. They tore everything out….. Took the money and run. I kid you not. They was left with pipes not connected and no bathroom and kitchen plus deck area incomplete. Is a class action case an option? Good luck my friends.
Terrible to see unfinished projects like this. Seems like there's a little bit of truth missing from this video, though. Being a follower of the builder, he's done more than just work on your interior and that doesnt seem very "hard truth" to me. Why didnt you guys mention the 8000w inverter system they built, the 4400W of solar that was installed on the roof, the backup camera system, dock lights repair and replacement, the front door lock install, all the roof patch work done to the roof? How about the exhaust pipe for the generator that was burning the inside of you cabinets every time it ran? I also noticed in one of his videos that he discovered a dislodged airbag over your man drive axle.. was that something you also ask him to fix? And why do you have two toilets? is because you guys made costly design changes? I know macerator toilets cost around $1800. Maybe things like that are never considered when discussing a budget. Also cant imagine a scammer giving you funds back! Maybe you guys should make another video and actually share the "Hard Truth" text messages you sent back and forth.
For sure, there is always things that go on behind the scenes and our builder can make videos after the fact, stating their experience. At the end of the day, we had two very different experiences of the bus build. We have the texts and documents just as they do. In October, we made it very clear with the builder that the check we were sending was the last one, we had no more to send. They said no problem, our bus would be finished with that check and it would be done by thanksgiving, December 1st at the latest. It wasn’t done…again. At 78 days past due without any attempt from them to let us know what’s going on, we had to reach out. The two options they gave us were to 1. Continue paying them with an open checkbook and they couldn’t give a ballpark end date of when the bus was going to be done. Or 2. We pick up our bus. Frankly, after the things we are finding out now about the builder, I am so grateful we picked that up from them. After my experience, my opinion is that they are a disgrace to the bus building world and people should very much beware of the builders wife getting involved in anything. We are not going to blast them on our social media, we are going to move on and fix what they left us with.
Im so sorry this happened to you The same thing happened to me with my horse trailer I didn't lose near ar much money but I lost a big chunk and they did absolutely nothing to it Again im so sorry
Oh no, this is so sad. Not the way you wanted to start 2025. You are handling this way better thanI would handle it. 65 a 70% is better than I originally thought. Hopefully the rest of 2025 goes smoother for you. The mountain art work is amazing especially with the meaning behind it. Can’t wait to see what you both do with it. Carl
You are so right Carl! Your positivity is so infectious and it’s exactly what our hearts needed tonight 🫶 The artwork is beautiful! It was for sure super thoughtful and I love the little Ethan mountain in the back 🥰
Having the "It is what it is" attitude is a bonus in life! It also helps in dealing with life's unexpected curveballs!! You guys will have Daisy done in no time! 😊
It sure does! It took us a long time to realize that all the energy we were spending being angry and resentful, we could be spending living. I appreciate you Deanna!!!
It’s so heartbreaking. I am truly sorry yall had to go through this. I can say from experience, it’s such a roller coaster of emotions and by the end of it you just feel sad for them to choose to do what they did. Love yall so much and grateful to have your family in our lives 💛💛💛💛
I thought this builder was friend of yours? Some friend huh… you need to take legal action and assuming you have a contract and kept track of invoices spent they are in breach and need to be held accountable.
Sounds like you guys got absolutely f’ed on this build. I’m so sorry. There’s no reality, even in inflation world that that conversion cost anywhere remotely closer to that, even if they had to rebuild the engine. I’d be taut than to court. 128k and you have a fridge and bunk beds, nothing looks even hardly even touched. Please at LEAST make an accurate review so others don’t go through this as well.
I really hope Jen helps with the bus build. Kyle needs help. He can't build it all on his own. Please don't just tell him he will get it done by Feb. Please help him, your capable, you can do this together
Oh that is so awful!!! 128 grand!!!!! - my love and prayers to you both!!
Also file a complaint with the BBB. What they left you with from the money you gave them. I need to calm down. This is ridiculous and I literally hope there is a way you get money back and the company that are crooks. Y’all are so selfless and caring. Heart broken for y’all. Hope you get justice.
This so sad to see this. But being who you guys are you will come out on top. Hang in there. Love you guys
You’ve been led here in this position for a reason. You’ll thrive cos you have each other and faith xx
i am so sorry about the bus fiasco, but you are wise and admirable in staying calm and centered.
I haven’t even finished and my heart breaks for you all. I’m so sorry this happened to you, I would look into a lawsuit against them. That is ridiculous!
I'm just going to say that my beautiful bus that you guys toured and featured on your channel that was built out from the chassis all the way up adding a new body and everything that entails plus all the interior only cost me 90K
Your bus is absolutely exquisite Lainie!!!!! It’s so sad this happened and it’s taken us a lot to process it all. We feel at peace with where we are at with it all and excited to get her built 🥰
Also! I’ll send you a message later and find out where yall are! I wanna come hug you!!!!
Betrayal is one the WORST feeling one can experience! I know you trusted the builder/friend since they did Blue Betty...now this! I have a conscience;they do NOT!
Man I feel so bad for you guys. Ill be sure to watch along, and watch the ads even though they annoy me 😂. You guys will get through this you're pretty resilient. ❤️
This is heart breaking. I am so sorry this happened. Thank you for sharing your story.
Thank you for being here Don! We love you, Neva, and the Pups!!
I've been watching you guys for years. Now it's too painful to continue. If there's a lesson from this I hope that you come to understand that you can be kind to people, but also not trust people's word and require written contracts. Hoping the community in Quartzsite can help you guys get this bus done. Be well.
Oh man, im so sorry for all you all going through this. So much money spent i feel devastated for you guys. Keeping you in my prayers ❤❤
I’m so very sorry that these people are swindler’s. I hope there is a way you can get an attorney and get your money back. You don’t deserve any of this. You’re such selfless people. Sending good vibes and juju your way and hope and love. ❤️ 😊
We truly believed we had built a foundation of trust and mutual respect, which is why this situation is so deeply disheartening for us. We feel compelled to address something that has been weighing heavily on our hearts.
While we understand that the project did not end the way any of us envisioned, it is important to recognize the financial reality of what happened. The scope of the work you requested exceeded the budget we initially agreed upon. Despite this, we continued to pour our time, energy, and resources into the project, but it became unsustainable for us to move forward without compensation for the additional work.
What truly saddens us now is seeing posts on social media that paint a picture as though we intentionally wronged you. It feels like the trust and goodwill we had has been replaced with blame and accusations, which does not reflect the spirit of the friendship and collaboration we shared.
And in all of this, I worked tirelessly for you-both times-for free, pouring everything I had into helping you, yet you never even offered a thank you. That lack of appreciation has been especially painful.
We are trying to approach this situation with kindness and fairness, but if these public accusations and social media posts continue, we will have no choice but to seek legal action. It is also important to acknowledge that this situation was as much your responsibility as ours. By allowing things to unfold this way, we all contributed to this outcome, and it has caused harm to everyone involved.
We also want to make it clear that we have every video, text message, and email we exchanged throughout this process. If you truly want to point fingers, the full history of our communication will reflect the facts.
We encourage us all to reflect on this experience with grace and accountability. We have always sought to be transparent and fair, and we hope you can recognize the effort and care we put into your project. This is not how we wanted things to end, but we believe there is a lesson here for all of us about communication, boundaries, and mutual respect.
Please understand that our intention is not to point fingers but to advocate for fairness and to protect the integrity of our work and reputation. We hope we can move forward in a way that fosters understanding and peace, even if that means going our separate ways.
Wishing you clarity and resolution,
@ good deal.
@@BJ2020_ If that is a thing, please email Jen and let them know. Their email address should be in the About section.
Can’t wait!! I’m so excited for you family! This has been a long time coming for you all
I feel sorry to see you all having to deal with this, but I imagine how beautifully cool its going to be when it's all completed.
Thank you 💛
We are pretty excited to be able to finish her and make her into our beautiful home 🥰
Sending BIG hugs 🤗 your way Jen and Kyle!
Just know we are all beside you on this!
We love you all!
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We love you so big Cheryl!!
Hey guys, as a long time follower and a newer bus builder myself i have to say that everything being custom in a bus is very time consuming and very hard to estimate time. And i know you both know that as well, just sharing my experience. The time line of 3 weeks to finish it was wildly optimistic and not close to realistic. I can see100k in work/labor if that makes you feel any better.
Based on the craftsmanship that i could see on your tour. Maybe it’s not as nice as it looks, but it does look nice from the video perspective. My prayers are with you guys if there’s anything I can do to help you’re more than welcome to come to my shop and get a free helping hand. ❤
Agreed. Theres more to this story than whats being shared. They've stated that this guy "was" a friend. Hard to believe that a friend would leave them hanging and not offer any options.... and give them money back. Doesnt seem very friend like to weaponize a yt to the extent of destroying the builders reputation. From my understanding, the builder offered vlogging as an option for promoting both channels and they declined. kinda ironic that Kyle is now creating a "bus conversion" channel
But they didn’t even do hardly anything and nothing that was actually difficult or time consuming except wiring. They got scammed plain and simple.
@@wickedwonderer-20that’s a helluva opinion. They got severely scammed and left with a half done bus home without working water with kids and quite a few dogs.
@@wickedwonderer-20Kyle is not creating a bus conversion channel. He talked about doing a food channel.
..you're all awesome.. that's why your an inspiration.. because you tell it as it is - with humanity & genuine kindness🤍
I’m so sad this has happened to your beautiful family. I will keep your channel rolling each day on reruns with adds even when I’m not home. I will leave my computer and tv on the reruns. I really hope this will help out a little. Love you guys 🥰💔🥰💔
You are so good to us!!!! Our framily is truly what keeps us feeling so loved and cared for!
I’m sorry you are going thru this
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Still rewatching 💕💕
I want to cry for you guys.
We did a lot of that. It’s for sure been a rollercoaster of emotions.
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So sorry to hear this.
I have severe panic issues but I can travel the country, mostly by myself if no one wants to go. I focus on the fun I’m going to have when I get there! It’s not easy but it’s certainly worth it. Reading or watching a movie helps tons, or dozing off. I’ve been from the west to east coast several times, plus cross country in a car twice. Have a happy new year and best of health to all! I look forward to you keeping on! I’m sorry what a bad situation this turned out to be but you will muddle through. Cheers! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I once got schystered and the wily dude did not want to return my money and got half back of what was owed. Someone with integrity would return the money knowing that they did not own up to their part of the deal. Also, someone with integrity would not have strung along the project in such a way, in my opinion. Uncool. 10 months in and then to tell you they need more money and feel like they are working for free? Something seems amiss. Sorry to hear.
Wow and to think a friend did this! So sad!
Kyle, it’s Mike. I will be in Quartzsite in a couple weeks for the Wanderlodge Rally, let me know if you need any help with the bus.
Thank you! I’ll send you a message!
I'm all in to fully support your channel and the adventures this build will bring. I have the up most respect for your attitude and how you are moving forward.
I was shocked to see this play out and really expected you to say just kidding.
I haven't watched the live yet but will here soon.
I lived a similar situation with my daughter and grandson in small quarters and would love to return to that lifestyle for I have the best memories from those days.
I am certain all of you will carry your best memories as well.
Awwww! Jeri! We are so glad you’re here with us! I wish we were able to say just kidding for sure.
At this point, we are so excited to put our hands on Daisy and turn her into a beautiful home 💛
Oh my goodness, I am so sorry, guys. I do love your positive attitudes. You can either move forward and finish or wallow and get nowhere. I would definitely think about if you had a contract with builders, it's ok to speak to someone about your legal rights. I am praying for you guys. Hang in there!❤
You guys are an amazing team no doubt you will make it amazing!!
I went and joined this channel after they remodeled Blue Betty. My hope was on the channel I might get Daisey sneak peeks. I was curious why they were not publishing that much. They showed some other projects mostly. I would love to broadcast their channel... but the negative energy wouldn't help....However, in time another fine couple will fall into their trap again...Wish you guys the best....
My thoughts exactly.
We feel the same way Mike. We thought there would be more updates of Daisy, but as time went on, energy got weird. After what we have learned since we picked up the bus, I’m really grateful the universe stepped in and saved us. Now we can finish her and put our spin on her.
I hope others see the flags that we didn’t want to be real before it’s too late for them. The darkness is eventually enough to the light 💛
So sorry. Bless your new adventure
Sending good postive vibes for 2025. It's needs the final push. Fantastic lay out. You will get there. If anyone wants to sort a just giving page I would support to get them to finish it.
Now that you have sat with Daisy for a while hopefully things are looking better than you originally thought. 🙏. Will you be selling Blue Betty to help witj the costs of finishing Daisy?
Short term plan: Bring the bus back to the property. Both of you get full time jobs in the town for 1 year. Stash that cash and get the bus done that year and make vids about the build.
Long term plan: I don't see it ending. Do you?
It might not be what you want or like but sometimes doing what you don't like brings the best out of you. Not trying to be mean I just see a good quick and safe solution. I will still be here watchin as your fan.
The “finished” part looks great! Love that pic! However, this is not acceptable and praying for you guys! ❤
Crazy to think another 20k wouldve got them a finished bus
Yeah, the hard stop for us was when we were given the two options. We couldn’t justify financing more money for an unlimited amount of time, they weren’t able to give a date when it would be ready.
We knew we just needed to go get here and I’m grateful we did.
Oh no 😢 I wish yall the best. Big hugs ❤
I might have missed it but please name the “builder” so others can avoid the same thing. This is terrible. So sorry for this trouble.
If I'm not mistaken, the builder did the Blue Betty upgrades. Which they documented on their YT channel. I was quite surprised, this build was not documented/vlog on his channel. I have unsubscribe from his channel. Feeling sad for the Bethunes. Will be praying for you all.
This really seems like your contractor did not give an accurate quote, and was in over their head. So unfortunate. I understand your desire to not take legal action, and I don’t know if you had any contract, but a good lesson for everyone in the importance of contract law! It’s easy for projects to get out of hand, and it really falls to them to right this wrong.
He should be put out of business. They should have an itemized list of all costs. I'm seeing this all across the country! People getting scammed left and right! It's not like they lost 5 bucks..omg almost $130,000! I'm furious..for everyone out there getting screwed over.
Can you sue them? This is completely unacceptable
Sending you all love & good vibes. ❤
Thank you friend 💛💛💛💛💛
Love and light right back atcha 🫶
Did you not have a written contract in place? Please share the builders information so no one else gets scammed!
124 thousand dollars can buy you a decent house in NM. I don't see how paying that much makes sense when trying to live cheaply in a bus.
A fully furnished bus can be as much as a house but in this case they got royally ripped off.
@FreddietheFly I know that. Just like a factory built RV can cost upwards of 2 million dollars. So if you're planning on living cheap, you're doing wrong when you're spending over 120 thousand on a bus that's going to last way less than a house and cost just as much and maybe more for upkeep and maintenance.
My van is named Daisy!!! I know you will make the bus perfect in time.
Awww that’s so cool!!! We love the name Daisy because you can’t help but say it with a smile 😊
@@Beingbethunes It does make you smile!
I am sorry you have to go through this and your right with your perspective on all of this. Moving forward is the only thing to do.... get it done and move forward. Is there any legal recourse you have? not sure how it all goes but I would like there is a contract or estimate for this? Sometimes it just easier to learn and move forward. You guys are awesome and have a great frame of mind! Thank you for sharing with all of us.... Blessings to you all.... :-)
Wow 124000 and that’s what’s done? On the plus side it looks like mostly finishing items like ceiling and floor and trim . The build it’s they did are beautifully done . I’m sure once you get the couches built and the sinks in it will come together . At least you have the experience from blue Betty . You got this
😢 I’m so sorry…
Thank you!! I need to go paint some rocks with you soon!!! It would be a great creative outlet ❤️
So frustrating guys! Routing for you from my neck of the woods ❤
We appreciate you 💛💛💛
Y’all. I cannot believe your builders did this to you!!! It makes me so very angry. I imagine your roller coaster of emotions. This too will make you stronger. I do admire you both for not bashing the builder. I think I would have.
Watching and crying.
If you don't have 124 thousand dollars worth of work or materials, why don't you make a police report for fraud?? These people might be doing this to others and if you don't report them, they're going to continue doing it.
Happy New Year all
This is beyond shameful!! No way is what has been done was worth over $120k. I would absolutely be suing the builder. Why did they keep 1/2 of what was left??
Greed. $pent it for themsElves.
I love how you love Your dogs ❤😊❤
Awww! Thank you!! We love our puppies so much. They truly bring us the best joy 🤭
Ugh. This sucks. I am hoping they gave you a detailed write up of were the money was spent.
I’m sorry they were not able to follow through with their work. Sounds like they needed to plan better. I admire your attitude. Not sure I could be that calm so quickly. Good luck with finishing it out.
Question, for the living room, can you maybe find ready made furniture that can be modified to be attached to the floors instead of making it all?
Thank you 💛
It’s for sure not what we planned on doing, but I feel like it’s going to work out so much better than we ever expected.
They did provide us with all the remaining materials that weren’t installed. There is a couch, and Kyle will build a platform for it to sit on so we can have 3 cubbies to fit floor poufs on for extra seating.
Kyle has become so great at building things. I know he is going to enjoy making the cabinets and putting his hand on this bus. It’s all gonna turn out awesome 💛
💥💥💥💥Bummed, I didn't catch the BB live stream.
I can only assume no paper work was signed between the two of you and the contractor. It is so frustrating and it makes me so angry that not only is it unprofessional to keep asking for more money because as they'll say we had no idea we would run into this kind of a problem with the build. Nothing I am saying is to make you guys feel worse about what has occurred in the end because I'm sure you feel bad enough even though you are moving on. One thing I've learned and I'm older than you guys is it's got to be in writing it's got to be signed and I can't believe knowing you Jen that you would give them as you said in this video a couple of times creative control. I remember way back before Daisy was getting billed that you guys said we have figured out now what we want how we want it how to create the most space etcetera so it seems a little bit confusing that you gave them creative control yet you knew exactly what you wanted. Either way what I don't like and what's upsetting me about this is this is a massive part of your guy's lives building a home on Wheels and it seems like there wasn't enough lawyer type things happening which must happen
I know it's hard up front to make agreements with people keeping commitments with people and making sure that they are doing what they said they would do that was on the contract between the two of you because there's one thing you should never feel and that's that you were bugging them or hustling them and I don't know if you have ever had that type of relationship with this contractor I just don't know but what I do know is there was a lot left out and unfortunately that isn't the way life works I figured it all out too late myself by being kind wanting to be understanding know he's there and you are the owner of a home that he is rebuilding and if he doesn't know the cost of things then it's a major red flag. I'm so bummed I did not get to hear how you did this how you made the two of you agree on things it actually fascinates me I'm very into law and also integrity and your word. But I also know what it's like to have somebody tell you over and over I didn't think we'd run into this we need 10 moregrand. You know what you should have thought of that before anyways I could go on and on I wish I knew what happened that created this type of over expenditure and putting you in a position to now have to build the rest of Daisy.
You said you had no running water and then you said but we are able to whatever it was wash dishes or take a shower so we know the water pump is working and we know that the house batteries are working why is it that you can't get water I'm just a little bit confused on that that's not I'm sure the most important part but having running water is very important. In addition you are getting running water but not everywhere and I'm very interested in why. Anyways I would love to hear in the future what you learned about doing this entire new home build. I love you guys I love you guys so much I'm so glad I am a
FRAM. ❤❤❤❤😅
Oh my gosh, this is so horrible... I live in a home that they had fixed until I purchased it, and everything has gone wrong. This is heartbreaking for yall.
So sad sorry this happened
You titled the video correctly. It sure is a disaster. I missed your live so couldn't ask more questions. I know you don't want to say anything more about this but I need to give my opinion. For $124,000 I don't see anything near that amount of work completed. I would be furious and seeking legal advice.
🎉 Happy New Year 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
Happy New Year 🎊🎆🎈
Not so happy when they get scammed like that.
I would be suing them, they scammed you in every kind of way, I'm so sorry this happened to your family.
I would be pissed?!😡
Happy new year 🎉 ✨️
Happy New Year!!!!!!!
Not so happy when they get scammed like that.
They didn't live up to the contract !!! I'm upset for y'all. Yes it SUCKS.. sending love your way. For 125k all the utilities of the bus should be up and running, where the heck did all the money go? They quoted the price and should have stuck with their word, unless fairly renegotiated. I'm so darn mad for y'all, I better stop typing!!! Lol
Y'all didn't deserve this, but you will grow, become stronger and overcome. Love from Kentucky
Man that has to be terrifying for the family members of the missing people.
For sure it must be 💔
So sorry to hear what you are going thru. I did my own mc9, and it was a lot, but nowhere near what they got from you. I'd like to help, contact me.
Wow, that's horrible :(
It’s been a rollercoaster 😥
Better than I thought it would be...Infrastructure mostly done.
For sure! It’s the best worst case scenario we could have
The bus will be very nice when it is finished.
Habitat Restore is a great resource for building materials for less.
Thank you!! We are gonna check them out 💛💛💛
This is awful! I am struggling financially too I’m very sorry 😞 it’s insane this has happened 😮 you can not get reimbursed through civil courts? I would try
128k is alottttt
Taking them to court seems reasonable to me ~ sorry humanity has this kinda ugliness.
They can go to state contractors board on each license builder has. Some get general, some get auto and hire another licensed contractor for plumbing.
How many people did they mess up That is sad So sorry
That's so shameful!!!
I'm heart broken and mad for you guys, but then looking at it, it seems like they did a good job on what they did. What kind of bus is it? Don't forget to keep that open space for the Christmas tree :)
We feel you Laurie. It’s been a rollercoaster of emotions. I’m grateful there’s as much done as there is. It’s for sure liveable and the kids are insanely stoked about their area!
Oh! It’s an MCI 102DL3 and absolutely, there will always be room for the tree 🥰
My son lives in Mesa I think lol somewhere in the area
trust me, Karma is rough. I am so sorry
My question to Jen is… do you have panic when you are driving, such as when you drive the van alone? I can’t drive anymore due to mine, I’m afraid of hurting someone if I get in panic mode. I do drive super short distances, but not on highways only on back roads if that.,
Great question! I’m sorry that you have to live with panic too. It’s such a shitty thing to manage. I’m proud of you for continuing to grow day by day! This isn’t easy stuff 💛
When I am driving alone and have Theodore, I still have panic. However, Theodore keeps me grounded and driving helps me focus on my senses and stay in the present moment.
If I am driving with anyone else in the car. I hate it. I feel so responsible and it takes so much of my focus and energy to stay grounded, even with Theodore. I try not to drive other people because it’s not fun for me.
Then, if I drive with Kyle and the kids, I’m a total mess and I would absolutely cause an accident in a big city. To be responsible for the entire family puts me into big panic.
I feel I can drive by myself best because I was involved in a fender bender once years before our crash that killed Ethan. I was fine in the fender bender, so my mind associates that with being an okay reality.
When driving all together, my brain has seen the reality of “we are all riding by together and someone could die” so the entire time we are together in a car, my brain is working against me and showing me horrific images of us dying because my brain senses imminent fear, even though we are all okay in that moment. My brain has seen the moment change to worse. So, it’s trying to get me to stoo the car and get out because it’s seen what can happen.
Does that make sense? Lol, I try to give a full description of what I am experiencing so others that have it can feel not so alone.
@ yes it does! Thank you !
Same thing happened to my brother . They payed a company an outrageous amount of money up front to remodel a master bath, kitchen and a few others. They tore everything out…..
Took the money and run. I kid you not. They was left with pipes not connected and no bathroom and kitchen plus deck area incomplete.
Is a class action case an option?
Good luck my friends.
If the builders signed a contract, you need to go after them. That is bad business.
You all should have built the bus yourself! Looks like the bus looks roomier, don't look too bad!
Terrible to see unfinished projects like this. Seems like there's a little bit of truth missing from this video, though. Being a follower of the builder, he's done more than just work on your interior and that doesnt seem very "hard truth" to me. Why didnt you guys mention the 8000w inverter system they built, the 4400W of solar that was installed on the roof, the backup camera system, dock lights repair and replacement, the front door lock install, all the roof patch work done to the roof? How about the exhaust pipe for the generator that was burning the inside of you cabinets every time it ran? I also noticed in one of his videos that he discovered a dislodged airbag over your man drive axle.. was that something you also ask him to fix? And why do you have two toilets? is because you guys made costly design changes? I know macerator toilets cost around $1800. Maybe things like that are never considered when discussing a budget. Also cant imagine a scammer giving you funds back! Maybe you guys should make another video and actually share the "Hard Truth" text messages you sent back and forth.
For sure, there is always things that go on behind the scenes and our builder can make videos after the fact, stating their experience.
At the end of the day, we had two very different experiences of the bus build. We have the texts and documents just as they do.
In October, we made it very clear with the builder that the check we were sending was the last one, we had no more to send. They said no problem, our bus would be finished with that check and it would be done by thanksgiving, December 1st at the latest. It wasn’t done…again. At 78 days past due without any attempt from them to let us know what’s going on, we had to reach out.
The two options they gave us were to 1. Continue paying them with an open checkbook and they couldn’t give a ballpark end date of when the bus was going to be done.
Or 2. We pick up our bus.
Frankly, after the things we are finding out now about the builder, I am so grateful we picked that up from them. After my experience, my opinion is that they are a disgrace to the bus building world and people should very much beware of the builders wife getting involved in anything.
We are not going to blast them on our social media, we are going to move on and fix what they left us with.
Im so sorry this happened to you The same thing happened to me with my horse trailer I didn't lose near ar much money but I lost a big chunk and they did absolutely nothing to it Again im so sorry
Aw Alison! You didn’t deserve that to happen to you. I bet that was really difficult. It really stings when people do things like that to us 💛
I know but we are strong we will survive
I think checking out the bus every few months or at least before drawsand holding back some money would have been smart 🤓.
We did do those things 💛
You clearly did not get your moneys worth. I would immediately contact an attorney and sue. Take detailed pictures of Daisy.
Just awful!! Definitely one day at a time!!
Would love to know where your earnings are from, if it's ok to ask.
Oh no, this is so sad. Not the way you wanted to start 2025. You are handling this way better thanI would handle it. 65 a 70% is better than I originally thought. Hopefully the rest of 2025 goes smoother for you. The mountain art work is amazing especially with the meaning behind it. Can’t wait to see what you both do with it. Carl
You are so right Carl! Your positivity is so infectious and it’s exactly what our hearts needed tonight 🫶
The artwork is beautiful! It was for sure super thoughtful and I love the little Ethan mountain in the back 🥰
Just think of all the geometry the kids will learn!!
Haha! Yes!! They are actually really excited to get to have a hand in this one. I was super grateful their space was as done as it was 🙌
@ their spaces look amazing!!
This is horrific, I’m so sorry that you got screwed over like this!
Prayers!!!!!!
It’s been a rollercoaster of emotions for sure 💛
Having the "It is what it is" attitude is a bonus in life! It also helps in dealing with life's unexpected curveballs!! You guys will have Daisy done in no time! 😊
It sure does! It took us a long time to realize that all the energy we were spending being angry and resentful, we could be spending living. I appreciate you Deanna!!!
Be a smart hippie. Sign contracts. That’s big $$. The company knew you were RUclipsrs. So tell the story. Share info.
The new channel should be call eating with Daisy's or cooking with Daisy's
This sounds SOOO much like what happened with us and the double decker bus build. We’ve never talked much about it, but this is so similar.
It’s so heartbreaking. I am truly sorry yall had to go through this. I can say from experience, it’s such a roller coaster of emotions and by the end of it you just feel sad for them to choose to do what they did.
Love yall so much and grateful to have your family in our lives 💛💛💛💛
They scammed you. 😢
How and where did you find this person???
They were who Kyle thought was a good friend of his 😞
I thought this builder was friend of yours? Some friend huh… you need to take legal action and assuming you have a contract and kept track of invoices spent they are in breach and need to be held accountable.
Sounds like you guys got absolutely f’ed on this build. I’m so sorry. There’s no reality, even in inflation world that that conversion cost anywhere remotely closer to that, even if they had to rebuild the engine. I’d be taut than to court. 128k and you have a fridge and bunk beds, nothing looks even hardly even touched. Please at LEAST make an accurate review so others don’t go through this as well.