Kia EV6 Regenerative Braking Levels Explained and Tested - How Many KW of Regen at Each Level?
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- Опубликовано: 21 июн 2022
- The 2022 Kia EV6 has several regenerative braking settings. There are levels from 0 to 3, plus iPedal in the 2022 Kia EV6. In this video I go through each regen setting on the 2022 Kia EV6 and test them to show you how much deceleration each delivers on the Kia EV6 Wind AWD and how much energy in kW each provides. Enjoy!
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Regen
What?
I love Auto-#2. Love how it reads the traffic ahead and does regen accordingly.
Yep that works well!
Thanks, Jeff. This was good. I use Auto regen, always in Eco mode- not that I recommend it, but it works for me. I have the WIND AWD; would have bought the RWD as it would have been fine for my driving habits, but I wanted the heat pump, Take care.
Yeah I use auto sometimes but I prefer the consistency. I'll do another video talking about auto regen and how regen works in level 0 (basically doesn't regen at all, even using the brakes). Take care!
Did you ever make that video talking about auto regen and how regen works in level 0? If so I can't find it. Thanks
Not yet. I need to do that
Good info. I always have my EV6 in eco and the regen was set to auto, the other day I noticed that auto was no longer there and regen was on 1. What setting would you recommend 99% of driving is around town.
Auto is enabled/disabled by holding the right paddle. I recommend level 3 for 99% around town. That way you get a lot of regen but aren't using both motors 100% of the time in iPedal.
Hi, I picked up my ev6 last week. Lots to learn…. I’ve been experimenting with the regen braking and noted that you feel the regen braking when you take your foot off the gas. But I also noted that when you press on the gas there appears to be resistance. Comparing the easy coasting sensation on level 0 vs the resistance felt as of level 2 makes me question if the benefits are that great.
Hey congrats! There's not resistance really. It's more that as you adjust regen, the top portion of the pedal travel acts as a regen brake. So I'm level 2 for example you might need to push the pedal 20% before you get to net zero, whereas in level 0 that net zero is at the very top.
thanks for a useful video. When you pull and hold the right hand paddle - you get auto. What does that mean?
Happy to help. Auto will automatically adjust the level of regen based on the vehicle in front of you and inclines. So with no car in front of you on a flat road it will just coast. If a car is in front of you or you're on a downhill slope, it will slow down. And it's strength can be adjusted by tapping the right and left paddles.
Good insight thanks, Jeff.
I don't have an EV6 (or I would try it myself!), but I would love to see an accelleration comparison between Eco mode, and Sport mode. Time a "full throttle" 0 - 60mph, or 0 - 100kph in each mode and check the difference.
I think the difference would not be as great as you might think... Sport mode certainly feels much quicker, but I wonder if it is just thottle pedal mapping rather than actual power reduction?
Yep it's not far off. I tested some in the shiftpower usa video I did. But yeah, normal and sport are basically identical. Eco is a little slower though, especially from a roll since it starts with just the rear motor, then engages the front if you keep it floored. all get the same max power though.
@@TechnicallyJeff : I had a suspicion they were close.
I recall a horrific head-on accident many years ago, caused by a speed limiter. The restricted vehicle was unable to complete an overtaking manoeuvre because the limiter kicked in.
Oh man that's awful @@PiefacePete46
Bravo. Great video! At each level, do you know if stepping on the brake pedal after letting off the gas would actually further increase the regeneration, or is it only physical brakes? For example, if I drove on level 1 or 2, and stepped on the brake pedal, does it give me the same regen as say pulling and holding the left regen pedal? Thanks.
Glad to help! Levels 1, 2, and 3 give you more regen when you press the brake pedal up to the max. Level 0 uses friction brakes. iPedal already maxes out the regen.
@@TechnicallyJeff Oh nice. So with maximal brake pedal pressure, it will max out the regen to -130kW before using the physical brakes?
Yeah around there depending on speed.
For some reason, when I use i-Pedal out of standard or sport mode, it always feels like the regen braking is stiffer than it is when I’m in the eco-mode, that is, it seems to stop more abruptly. Also, I generally use less charge on a trip when I’m in I-pedal mode.
The i-Pedal configuration may be different depending on mode, so you may get more regen in Sport than Eco. That's interesting about the charge level in i-Pedal though. On the highway it should use more battery since it's always AWD and never disconnects the front motor. Around town though you could definitely see better results though.
My trips in which I do better with I-Pedal are generally trips around town, to the grocery store, doctor, etc. sometimes it seems like I have more charge when I get back home that I had when I left! But I have a question: what happens to the brake lights when you’re using regen braking?
Ah gotcha that makes sense. Brake lights come on with level 2, 3, and i-Pedal as long as you're not going too slow. If you're going slower and your rate of deceleration is slow, then they won't come on unless you're in i-Pedal. And for level 2 and 3 you need your foot all the way off the brake for it to come on.
Regen braking should also save on brake/rotor wear and $$$$. Are there any wear parts while using regen braking? I wouldn't think so because it's just an electrical field that's invoked through coils correct? Not many mechanical moving parts.
I haven't received my EV6 yet but I wonder how the car would handle on snow/ice with regen set to iPedal. Would it be like downshifting a manual vehicle in snow/ice conditions?
Yeah lots of electric vehicles go 100k-200k without brake changes. And yeah I wind think it'd be like downshifting.
Would have also been helpful to watch the regen numbers in all modes when using the brake pedal. I just got my Wind AWD and I'm somewhat disappointed that the brake pedal appears to cause no regen in level 0. Being able to 'freewheel' and get regen using the brake pedal should, in theory, be the most efficient way to drive.
Yeah this was one of my first videos. I need to do another one on regen. But yes, in level 0 it only uses the friction brakes.
Hi Jeff, sometimes, when i try to engage ipedal, I get "regen conditions not met". Can you please explain? Thanks
Hey usually that's when your in motion with your foot on the brake pedal. To adjust the regen you need to be stopped or if you're moving you need to have your foot off the pedal.
I keep mine on lvl 2 as well but I’m interested in what will give me the most range on full charge? I’ve seen some people post as high as 380 miles and I don’t know if my regen braking is why it’s not higher?
Range is dependent on a variety of factors, with speed and climate impacting it a lot. If it's very hot or cold, or if you're traveling mainly at highway speeds, you'll see lower range.
I’d like to know what settings allow you to see all that energy allotment on the EV6 display?
In the main screen go to EV, then the middle one on the left (I think energy usage of electricity usage, something like that)
Does adaptive cruise control and iPadel work together..?
When using adaptive cruise, it will accelerate and slow down as needed, all the way to a stop. When slowing down it uses regen so it's essentially like iPedal.
I haven’t noticed a difference in the amount of charge I gain back using the different regen levels down the same descent. Can you investigate?
You get back the same amount with different levels of regen, it's just how rapidly it regens. In low levels, using the brake pedal increases the amount.
Does it have blended brakes? What happens if you set it to level 0 and use brake pedal. Do you get regen then? And how much if so?
It does have blended brakes. It uses regen until it maxes it out, then it brings in the friction brakes. For level 0, it uses the friction brakes for the "first 10" braking instances, then does blended braking. I rarely use level 0 though so haven't tested this personally.
I believe you can also set regen to MAX without I-Pedal.
Only way to get max is with iPedal or holding the left regen paddle I believe.
You didn't mention Auto regen, which I use almost all of the time. The breaking is softer than ipedal, and much easier to drive around town.
Yeah I'm going to do a follow up on auto and level 0 (friction only).
Braking, cars have BRAKES.
@@Rhaman68 that was just a typo. I know the difference between breaks and brakes thank you.
Lol
Yeah
How do you get to that screen to monitor the regen?
Go to the EV screen, then tap the car, then I think it's the middle button on the left.
Is there a way to get max regen with I-pedal turned off?
You can hold the left paddle. You also get more regen when you use the brake pedal
So do you get more range in level 3 and even more in level 2?
It depends on your driving style. If you decelerate too much and have to accelerate again it's not ideal. Technically in level 1 when you use your brakes it regens a lot.
I'm wanting to know how much percentage get recuperated with regen breaking... because i dont even see not wven a percentage gets returned.
The Kia app has some raw data. It takes a lot to gain a percent though so it'd be rare to see it actually increase.
@@TechnicallyJeff so in some sense a bit useless
The data is useless or the regen?
How to i get to the battery status information?
If I recall correctly - without the split screen, go to the home screen, then EV, then electricity use.
Thanks, I just got my ev6 aweek ago
@vjsingh5939 congrats!
Will the brakes get used up faster by using a higher level?
No the vehicle intelligently uses the regen as much as possible no matter the regen level.
@@TechnicallyJeff i mean like wear and tear faster . And also what if you dont use it. But manuelly use the break paddle with you feet. Will the regen the battery too?
No regen doesn't use the brakes, it uses the electric motors to regenerate energy and put it back into the battery. It won't wear and tear faster. And yes you can use the brake pedal. It will use regen (as long as you're not in level 0).
*I have 6500 miles on my EV6 and the brake discs still have the factory code number on the metal disc. I drive in level #4 and have never used my brakes EVER! I Suspect my brakes will last 900,000 miles or 6 battery swaps. I never want to sell this car. I AM HOOKED!!!!*
That's awesome! Yeah I don't think I'll ever need to replace my brakes.
@@TechnicallyJeff *Yup! On level #4 regen braking the car stops within 200 feet and comes to a complete stop even on a steep hill. I have used my brakes ONCE when some guy cut in front of me but that's about it. Other than the main battery and tires that's the only expenses I see coming in the next 10 years. The world will be 100% electric but you have to own one first. I really LOVE filling up "my own tank" with energy in the privacy of my home. I have not been to a gas station in 6 months and I sure don't miss being harassed by pan-handlers at the public filling station any longer.*
@johnslugger yeah I love not having to go to a gas station
So maybe a dumb question but I don't have my EV6 yet... If you're at lvl 0, and you hit the brakes, does it engage regenerative braking until mechnical is deemed necessary? Or does it go straight to mechnical braking only?
Great question. I'll be doing a follow up video discussing regen more, but it goes straight to mechanical in level 0.
I had a reply that maybe got deleted because it had a link. After your reply I was searching around and found some people on the kiaev6forums claiming the opposite! Not sure why pedal braking regen would be so inconsistent.
Oh weird. That's interesting. Yeah I've done level 0 several times and tested it but I never leave it in 0 because I want regen.
I think the max regen can easily be around 200kw if you tried a little more
iPedal maxed around 130ish kW. I don't see it getting higher considering I was going fairly fast and at a lower state of charge.
@@TechnicallyJeff hopefully I get a chance to test it myself one day , rather than doubting you.
Thanks for trying it out. I'm always curious about max regen capacity
Yeah 130 kW is pretty substantial to be honest.
@@TechnicallyJeff honestly I'm a bit disappointed with that number
The kona 39kwh with its 100kw motor gives 100kw easily during regen.
I.e when you hold down the regen paddle + mild brake peddle
So i expected this to be much higher than 170kw atleast
@@nujjigram I get a little more regen than my Niro EV pulling the left regen pedal to get the max, but not a ton.
Technically Jeff this was not your best effort. You missed auto regen by holding down right paddle and also level 4 engagement without i-pedal by holding down left paddle. The adjustable regen at your fingertips is one my favorite things about the Kia so much so that not having it on other brands in a near game over for me thanks.
Yeah that was an early on video. I need to do a follow up with more info 😀
Let off the gas... lol
Haha I forgot I said that.
Sorry but why are you driving at 80 mph? There is no efficiency possible driving fast and changing speeds. Regen levels are invalidated. To drive efficiently and safety is to select 65 mph or lower to
Match posted speed limit, Auto Regen, adjusted to desired level, let the car do its engineering work.
Very rarely do people drive 65 mph lol. This was just for testing too to see how much would regen. It's not safe to do a lot of slowing down from 65 mph on the highway.