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With the exception of some former MLG players, most RUclipsrs cheat their gameplays using xim and cronusmax or they lobby shop. If they play with a simple dualshock controller they will go negative for sure.
I just dont understand why like 95% off all attachements reduce ads speed, at least thats what the game tells us. Feels like they want you to pre aim every corner and move less after you put on some attachements.
@@stevent2671 I'm merely speculating on why IW made it this way. Of course acquiring a target with optics is easier in real life. But we're talking about a game mechanic regarding bringing your rifle up from low ready. Just because optics in real life have negligible weight and won't slow down bringing the rifle up doesn't mean the developers didn't exaggerate the added weight to indeed slow it down in-game for balancing.
@@stevent2671 Also, ADS time is more how fast you can bring your gun up in game, not how fast you can visually acquire target, so you're comparing two different things. In real life , you're gonna be able to bring a carbine like an AR or M4 with iron sights up faster than an M249 with an optic. Why? Because of the weight difference. Again, it's just exaggerated in game when it comes to attachments.
I tried to quantify vertical and horizontal recoil reduction for the M4A1 at 3:00 TL:DR: Best attachments are Compensator, Muzzle Break and Commando Foregrip. Read more for details. I counted the pixels between the lowest and highest point of each spray pattern for the vertical recoil. I counted the pixels between the left most and right most point of each spray pattern for the horizontal recoil. I also estimated the deviation of bullets in the first 15 shots. It would have been more reliable if multiple spray patterns from multiple magazines were overlayed on top of each other. I can't trust the horizontal recoil very much, so take that with a grain of salt. The vertical recoil reduction should be fairly consistent though, from my own testing too. Here are the results: Muzzle Brake: -18% vertical, -8.94% horizontal recoil with LITTLE horizontal deviation in the first 15 bullets Compensator: -27.21% vertical, -13.58% horizontal recoil with LARGE horizontal deviation in the first 15 bullets Commando Foregrip: -12.52% vertical, -0.66% horizontal recoil with EXTREMELY LITTLE horizontal deviation in the first 15 bullets Merc Foregrip: -25.2% vertical, -20.19% horizontal recoil with MEDIUM horizontal deviation in the first 15 bullets Ranger Foregrip: -20.2% vertical, -7.94% horizontal recoil with MEDIUM horizontal deviation in the first 15 bullets Operator Foregrip: -23.87% vertical, -11.92% horizontal recoil with MEDIUM horizontal deviation in the first 15 bullets Rubber Rear Grip: -10.68% vertical, -0.66% horizontal recoil with LARGE horizontal deviation in the first 15 bullets Recommended choice for vertical recoil reduction: Compensator Recommended choice for horizontal recoil reduction: Commando Foregrip. Recommended choice for a balance of both vertical AND horizontal reduction with just 1 attachment: Muzzle Brake or Commando Foregrip depending on which attachment slot you want to use and whether you want to sacrifice a bit of ADS or a bit of movement speed. They are reduced by very negligible amounts either way though. Enjoy.
Hello everyone, I took some time to follow up on some weapon recoil tests made by: (TheXclusiveAce) When choosing attachments to make your recoil significantly better, I found a few interesting things: 1) The weapon stats reflected in the menu from various attachments are some what untrue, and some even are completely untrue. 2) Many weapons will occasionally demonstrate recoil that varies from normal standards - (an outlier) 3) I tested every attachment on their own, and then tested each combination changing only 1 attachment, then putting the best against one another. 4) I tested each weapon variant twice, and also tested one weapon from each class with the worst recoil. 5) Stocks had by far the least useful affect on recoil and can be replaced with a scope or perk. Here are the hands down best recoil attachments for all weapons with a automatic fire rate in combination: + Muzzle: (Compensator) + Barrel: (The longest barrel measured in inches" ) *Make sure the effects state it affects recoil control + Underbarrel: (Merc Foregrip) + Reargrip: (Rubberized Grip Tape) + Stock: (Any stock that adds aiming stability) Hope this helps you guys! It certainly surprised me as some of the information I found contradicts what I thought previously.
@@LukesYT23 Yes it is. The stats on the weapon display do not accurately present the affect the attachment has on your weapon. Even though the ranger attachment is unlocked later on many guns it seems to have a lesser result on recoil. Hip fire accuracy is increased with the ranger foregrip however. So if for instance you wish to use the ranger on a run and gun sub class, it would be a better choice. In terms of pure recoil it is worse.
Paiden Easley what about commando? Been seeing a lot of pros use this on their slow AR classes for the stability but is it significantly worse than merc?
@@LukesYT23 Ah yes! I thought for sure my tests were a fluke, but I tested over 45 combinations of attachments and did 3 bullet spread tests for the best combinations on 6 common weapons at the same range. The Merc foregrip out performed the commando in every test. HOWEVER many attachments decrease aiming stability, so if you are using a long range sight, like a 3.25 zoom acog, then are likely going to want some stability and thats where the commando comes in. If I had to give pure recoil percentages to commando vs Merc, the commando is perhaps a 10% reduction / the Merc is more like 20%. Hope that helps!
@@boi798 yeah, for a while, it seemed like it was just on rust and shipment. But lately, ive been seeing sone ridiculous spawns on normal maps like gun runner or rammaza
Harry Buhse It’s worth using just for the sake of using something different. If you’re able to be accurate you can get kills quickly, just admittedly rough until you unlock a grip for it. Mounting is great w it but I’d try it out if you want a different playstyle
Just an observation after watching the M4 recoil, every attachment actually helped significantly. While the total height of the entire shot spread remained similar, the first several rounds were much tighter with all of the attachments. It’s not often you need to shoot more than a handful of rounds in a gunfight anyway. Great video!
The longer barrels give you recoil control too probably the best control. Use the the stabilizers and the long barrel to make recoil nothing but a small drag down on the aiming stick or mouse
A hint: Movement Speed also affects Aim Walking Movement Speed to my surprise. I thought it would only affect normal walking speed. Havent tested sprinting speed yet.
@@Schpoo I know that, I was just saying in general, that player shouldn't have spawned directly in Ace's line of sight and surrounded by 2 other players on Ace's team. Just saying.
Just to make note and I've tested this recently. But when going for the "best spread" pay attention to the Recoil Control on the gun stat bar and not the individual attachment words, some aiming stability attachments actually give better recoil control I.E. Tactical Foregrip. Whereas Recoil Control attachments gear more often towards the Accuracy stat. Also oddly enough Recoil Control for the stat bar effects the 680's spread, and accuracy helps the FR 5.56 the most. This game is all over the place. Hard to keep track
3:15 - if all patterns are similar, with the Rubber Rear Grip you miss that the first 5 bullets are within the same distance of the first-to-second jump of the "base". THAT IS HUGE!!! It is exactly the first few shots that matter the most!
Commando foregrip is by far the best, it helps with keeping your recoil vertical, it helps with ideal sway and it also doesn’t reduce your aim down sight time like the other grips
But it drastically reduces your movement speed. Try running a gun without it and you'll see for yourself. I loved the commando grip, but now I rarely use it.
Great video Ace. I'd love to see more videos like these that show the differences with the attachments and how the pros and cons affect the the guns. Looking forward to the gun guide videos.
would love to see an updated "warzone" version of this that includes "best set ups" for example, i think MOST players would agree that, for the m13, monolithic suppressor and tempus marksman barrel are the "must have" attachments. would love to see the best foregrips to compliment these attachment types. I would assume commando foregrip is still the best but i see a lot of people run the ranger foregrip so would be interesting
I've just been using muzzle break and a commando grip, as I find vertical recoil to be both much easier to control and much more favorable to horizontal recoil.
See aiming stability affecting idle sway is something that should definitely be annotated in the description of the attachments. Was looking for the difference between rubberized grip tape and granulated. Didnt understand how something could less steady but help recoil at the same time until I watched this. Thanks!
I still do not understand how you don’t have more subscribers because you by far are one of the best CoD youtubers. Just by your work, what you provide to the audience (information and entertainment) and so much more. Keep up the hard work, I look forward to your videos this year! Also 9:18 lol wow that was a supreme spawn
@@jessesimonds6744 Burst is really good on the FAL! It really reduces the recoil while the burst itself has max rpm or even a faster rpm than max semi-rpm.
Great video, I come back frequently and what I noticed is that I would love to have barrels included in your considerations as at least the M4A1 barrels have recoil related attributes. I understand that you wanted to stick with the seven “general” attachments across all weapon types and you included the barrels in your specific M4A1 gun guide, however to have a full picture in terms of “recoil management” it would fit here from my point of view. Thanks and keep up the good work! 😊👍🏻
The thing I noticed with the first set of tests 2:47 is that the bounce from the first shot to the second is all reduced significantly by those attachments - which is more beneficial than the rest of the recoil pattern makes it seem, as you'll hit your early shots. Possibly something you missed Ace
It stacks but it recoil pattern becomes really weird (especially the RAM-7 or the M4). You’re better off putting a Control Attachment and a Stabilization Attachment to get the full effect out of it
Yeet Meister the best of both worlds you can get is compensator alongside with the commando foregrip. You get reduced horizontal and vertical recoil so you are more accurate. Also I recommend putting on the longest barrel on a gun that helps with your vertical as well such as the “Stock M16 Grendier” barrel on the M4A1.
As a returning cod player since mw2 I felt pretty lost. Looking for videos explaining perks and etc I stumbled on your channel. This is exactly this kinda of content I watch when I play a new game. The technical side. Keep it up, I subbed and hit that bell icon!
One thing that is interesting is the grouping of the shots. Usually, you are not going to spend a whole mag into one guy, if you do you are dead already. Probably the first 10 shots are what it counts, from the images you can notice that some attachments provide better groupings, thus helping land the first 10 shots more easily and killing the enemy faster.
I actually agree all the maps are way too big(-gulag showers)but it just make the pace of the game way too slow i understand the game is ment to be realistic but its just not fun to play for me If they where to fix it they could just release 1 good map and remove one of the old ones and fix them 1 by 1 Everything else however is good the guns is good(snipers need a buff) and story is fire so i would rate mw right now a 5/10
yeah he kinda forgot about it lol... from what i seen i think he said it basically isnt worth it because ots similar reduction to the foregrips, but you have to be crouching or laying down for it to work
XRK M4 has Commando Foregrip and FFS 12.4" Predator instead of compensator, but it obviously has great recoil control. FFS 12.4" doesn't have the PROS Recoil Control.
yeah naming those effects "horizontal recoil" "vertical recoil" "idle sway" "idle wobble" would be too easy and too telling.. wtf is wrong with the heads of the gameplay in this game
After watching this vid, I looked at your subs and holy shit man how are you not even at 1M? I wasn't even aware of this till now, these are the type of videos where you shine and you've been a great help for me since BO3, you deserve more man you're a great help with these types of videos, at least for me and Ik that's the case for a lot of others Edit: on top of that, I always see the amount of work that is put into these videos or any other (gun guides, maps exposed, etc.) And that is something I always appreciate
What about a video on "how to stay alive and keep your streak going" My highest killstreak is 10, it is so dumb that you can call one single UAV per life and if everyone on the enemy team is using ghost you are fu..k
Antonio Ayala they Made the game a constant loop of one thing canceling the next and so forth. These videos are dumb. Play how you’re comfortable and figure out ways to fuck up the meta
I wonder if you flipped it and instead of comp (control)+commando(stab) you had muzzle brake (stab) + merc (control). Merc also gives you hipfire, so on the MP7 which I hipfire with a lot, maybe that's a better way to go.
From what I observed, with practice, you dont need much recoil control attachments once you got the feel or control of your weapon in game. ADS speed and movement is more critical in game.
*Single shot* > use recoil/ aim stabilization attactments. Keeps you from fighting the gun too much at range. *Full auto* > use recoil control attactments. Just.... spray and hold on lol
Seems like it might reduce vertical recoil on a bullet-by-bullet basis for x% instead of directly changing the max magnitude like the compensator, but I don't know. If that is the case then the reargrip would actually be a lot better on certain guns with recoil patterns where there is a lot of empty space between shots.
I was waiting for this science myth to be cracked off, thank you Ace. Next myth which I am looking for is "Stock Variants" because I can't see the different between "No stock" and Base Gun at all. I will hold my breath for you to crack this.
I was mostly going with attachments that help recoil and was doing lousy. Switched to ones that help ADS and started doing a lot better. Didn't think the M4 was that slow to aim but apparently it is. Also, latency doesn't help matters (mine changes from 300 to 850 range depending on the time of day or if my wife is watching shows)
Other RUclipsrs: *BEST CLASS SETUP EVER* (Every setup they release is "good" because they're elite players..)
XclusiveAce: Actual helpful information.. for everyone
This
most of the youtuber are not elite, please. just pretty cringe content.
Truth!
With the exception of some former MLG players, most RUclipsrs cheat their gameplays using xim and cronusmax or they lobby shop. If they play with a simple dualshock controller they will go negative for sure.
most of them are click bait bs that are way too long
Is there an attachment that keeps my character from screaming “CONTACT!!” At the top of his lungs??!
Thats a big probelm for a person who plays a 2v2 regularly
_Enemy in the area_
Me: 0_0
Just turn off dialogue audio idiot lol
Prince Á that only mutes the sound on your end idiot. Everyone else can still hear it.
Prince Á ooooooooooooooh
He said recoil 66 times. That is one recoil every 9.5 seconds on average including intro and outro.
Where did you find time to figure that out
Anthem = The Destiny Killer
Pffffff ya right
Gg
x ALPHABRAV0 x why are you commenting on a 1 month old comment?
Cool story bro
@APOCALYPSE DOWNFALL counting's his hobby🤔
_Is there an attachment that reduces camping?_
Lmao
The under barrel grenade launcher
Leave match
Heartbeat sensor
Drink 5 red bull and beem everyone
I just dont understand why like 95% off all attachements reduce ads speed, at least thats what the game tells us. Feels like they want you to pre aim every corner and move less after you put on some attachements.
IW did say they wanted this game to be a tiny bit more realistic then previous CODs. Adding attachments adds weight to the gun.
@@B_to_the_H Acquire a target with ironsights and then an eotech holo sight in real life and tell me which is quicker.
@@stevent2671 I'm merely speculating on why IW made it this way. Of course acquiring a target with optics is easier in real life. But we're talking about a game mechanic regarding bringing your rifle up from low ready. Just because optics in real life have negligible weight and won't slow down bringing the rifle up doesn't mean the developers didn't exaggerate the added weight to indeed slow it down in-game for balancing.
@@stevent2671 Also, ADS time is more how fast you can bring your gun up in game, not how fast you can visually acquire target, so you're comparing two different things.
In real life , you're gonna be able to bring a carbine like an AR or M4 with iron sights up faster than an M249 with an optic. Why? Because of the weight difference.
Again, it's just exaggerated in game when it comes to attachments.
Brian H EXACTLY THANK YOU
I tried to quantify vertical and horizontal recoil reduction for the M4A1 at 3:00
TL:DR: Best attachments are Compensator, Muzzle Break and Commando Foregrip. Read more for details.
I counted the pixels between the lowest and highest point of each spray pattern for the vertical recoil.
I counted the pixels between the left most and right most point of each spray pattern for the horizontal recoil.
I also estimated the deviation of bullets in the first 15 shots.
It would have been more reliable if multiple spray patterns from multiple magazines were overlayed on top of each other. I can't trust the horizontal recoil very much, so take that with a grain of salt. The vertical recoil reduction should be fairly consistent though, from my own testing too. Here are the results:
Muzzle Brake: -18% vertical, -8.94% horizontal recoil with LITTLE horizontal deviation in the first 15 bullets
Compensator: -27.21% vertical, -13.58% horizontal recoil with LARGE horizontal deviation in the first 15 bullets
Commando Foregrip: -12.52% vertical, -0.66% horizontal recoil with EXTREMELY LITTLE horizontal deviation in the first 15 bullets
Merc Foregrip: -25.2% vertical, -20.19% horizontal recoil with MEDIUM horizontal deviation in the first 15 bullets
Ranger Foregrip: -20.2% vertical, -7.94% horizontal recoil with MEDIUM horizontal deviation in the first 15 bullets
Operator Foregrip: -23.87% vertical, -11.92% horizontal recoil with MEDIUM horizontal deviation in the first 15 bullets
Rubber Rear Grip: -10.68% vertical, -0.66% horizontal recoil with LARGE horizontal deviation in the first 15 bullets
Recommended choice for vertical recoil reduction: Compensator
Recommended choice for horizontal recoil reduction: Commando Foregrip.
Recommended choice for a balance of both vertical AND horizontal reduction with just 1 attachment: Muzzle Brake or Commando Foregrip depending on which attachment slot you want to use and whether you want to sacrifice a bit of ADS or a bit of movement speed. They are reduced by very negligible amounts either way though.
Enjoy.
I am using
-monolithic supressor
-m16 granader
-ranger foregrip
-g.i mini reflex/or rear grip idk what to use
-60 mags
Is ranger better than commando?
@@adriansapi same but instead of ranger I use commando and instead of gi mini reflex I use the stippled grip tape.
would this somewhat apply to other guns like the mp5?
adrian yea I bet your ADS speed is a pain the ass. Literally no mobility with those attachments
Alternatively, you could tape a brick to the end of your barrel. (This is not advised.)
Outlast The Dark 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Well this is already for the p90 actually
For the AK
That would help with melee too.
3:35 that little girl headshot . You monster.
Hello everyone, I took some time to follow up on some weapon recoil tests made by: (TheXclusiveAce)
When choosing attachments to make your recoil significantly better, I found a few interesting things:
1) The weapon stats reflected in the menu from various attachments are some what untrue, and some even are completely untrue.
2) Many weapons will occasionally demonstrate recoil that varies from normal standards - (an outlier)
3) I tested every attachment on their own, and then tested each combination changing only 1 attachment, then putting the best against one another.
4) I tested each weapon variant twice, and also tested one weapon from each class with the worst recoil.
5) Stocks had by far the least useful affect on recoil and can be replaced with a scope or perk.
Here are the hands down best recoil attachments for all weapons with a automatic fire rate in combination:
+ Muzzle: (Compensator)
+ Barrel: (The longest barrel measured in inches" )
*Make sure the effects state it affects recoil control
+ Underbarrel: (Merc Foregrip)
+ Reargrip: (Rubberized Grip Tape)
+ Stock: (Any stock that adds aiming stability)
Hope this helps you guys! It certainly surprised me as some of the information I found contradicts what I thought previously.
merc better than ranger?
@@LukesYT23 Yes it is. The stats on the weapon display do not accurately present the affect the attachment has on your weapon. Even though the ranger attachment is unlocked later on many guns it seems to have a lesser result on recoil. Hip fire accuracy is increased with the ranger foregrip however. So if for instance you wish to use the ranger on a run and gun sub class, it would be a better choice. In terms of pure recoil it is worse.
Paiden Easley what about commando? Been seeing a lot of pros use this on their slow AR classes for the stability but is it significantly worse than merc?
@@LukesYT23 Ah yes! I thought for sure my tests were a fluke, but I tested over 45 combinations of attachments and did 3 bullet spread tests for the best combinations on 6 common weapons at the same range. The Merc foregrip out performed the commando in every test. HOWEVER many attachments decrease aiming stability, so if you are using a long range sight, like a 3.25 zoom acog, then are likely going to want some stability and thats where the commando comes in. If I had to give pure recoil percentages to commando vs Merc, the commando is perhaps a 10% reduction / the Merc is more like 20%. Hope that helps!
Gonna use this in next year when my cod finally downloads
9:19 -- First - What an unfortunate spawn. Second - More fun edits like this, please!
spawns are absolutely ridiculous in this game
@@boi798 yeah, for a while, it seemed like it was just on rust and shipment. But lately, ive been seeing sone ridiculous spawns on normal maps like gun runner or rammaza
@@boi798 Just like the ridiculousness of Metal Gear Solid's story lol. Maybe the reference was a bit on the nose...
“predictable pattern”. *FAL under lvl 25 kick flashbacks*
but really. nice guide!
Yeah, I used the fal just to be different. If you don’t mount, you’re kicking like a mule.
Is it worth using? I can't understand the point of it it seems really weak
has anyone tried the burst perk for the FAL? Is it good?
Tango Sucka! It’s good, but at that point you might as well just use the famas
Harry Buhse It’s worth using just for the sake of using something different. If you’re able to be accurate you can get kills quickly, just admittedly rough until you unlock a grip for it. Mounting is great w it but I’d try it out if you want a different playstyle
Just an observation after watching the M4 recoil, every attachment actually helped significantly. While the total height of the entire shot spread remained similar, the first several rounds were much tighter with all of the attachments. It’s not often you need to shoot more than a handful of rounds in a gunfight anyway. Great video!
The longer barrels give you recoil control too probably the best control. Use the the stabilizers and the long barrel to make recoil nothing but a small drag down on the aiming stick or mouse
I’d personally like to see sprintout and strafe speed next, in that order
A hint:
Movement Speed also affects Aim Walking Movement Speed to my surprise. I thought it would only affect normal walking speed. Havent tested sprinting speed yet.
@@BIackSkillX Really? That's pretty interesting.
and ADS
Lmao, nah. Guns are already OP as fuck
@@BIackSkillX Like no stock for example.
9:20 amazing
Best spawn ever, said no one!
@@GeneralSnivy it's the MGS sound effect.
@@Schpoo I know that, I was just saying in general, that player shouldn't have spawned directly in Ace's line of sight and surrounded by 2 other players on Ace's team. Just saying.
@@GeneralSnivy That's Hackney yard for you. That map is way too small.
Need an attachment for fixing spawns Ace .
"You don't have to worry about ads speed as much as you might think"
Me: *laughs in Scar 17
MP7 with Compensator, FSS RECON, Commando Foregrip, 60 Round Mags, and Stippled Grip Tape is amazing.
Which attachments are you using to make your enemies run around. Mine sit in corners
The high KD and match making rating attachments.
Conor McDaddy Official Dickrider Fanboy love they name
Just to make note and I've tested this recently. But when going for the "best spread" pay attention to the Recoil Control on the gun stat bar and not the individual attachment words, some aiming stability attachments actually give better recoil control I.E. Tactical Foregrip. Whereas Recoil Control attachments gear more often towards the Accuracy stat.
Also oddly enough Recoil Control for the stat bar effects the 680's spread, and accuracy helps the FR 5.56 the most. This game is all over the place. Hard to keep track
"Humans tend to be more vertical structures."
- Ace, taken out of context, 2019
Underrated comment
Legend has it if you use all of these, The recoil will start going negative
3:50 pink attachement "forefrip" that seems like something crispy
Zaros -71 might wanna get colorblind checked, thats more purple than pink
3:15 - if all patterns are similar, with the Rubber Rear Grip you miss that the first 5 bullets are within the same distance of the first-to-second jump of the "base". THAT IS HUGE!!! It is exactly the first few shots that matter the most!
You can use the Muzzle Break & Merc Foregrip as your combo recoil control/stab combo until you unlock compensator as it takes forever
Commando foregrip is by far the best, it helps with keeping your recoil vertical, it helps with ideal sway and it also doesn’t reduce your aim down sight time like the other grips
Knzha it doesn’t affect vertical recoil, just horizontal
But it drastically reduces your movement speed. Try running a gun without it and you'll see for yourself. I loved the commando grip, but now I rarely use it.
judging from the video, I can almost not even see the difference...
Compensator: for high fire-rate guns
Muzzle break: lower/heavy first kick shots type guns
just like real life! cool of IW to implement that
@@beanguyensonr it's mw😅
@@lhitman2222 i think he means Infinity Ward
@@ortexvlogs ohhh that sounds more logical indeed. Thx
So muzzle brake for ak
I applaud this dude. Giving real info when all these streamers just post gameplay of their good game saying “thIs GUn sLapS”
Most helpful and criminally underrated cod channel.
incredible job, and i think i speak for everyone wen i say, THANK YOU for your work.
"Look at that ugly terrible spawn!" "That's not a terrible spawn, that's just a spawn."
I dont care about Recoil i just use Attachements who reduce Sprint out time and ADS speed haha fells like a different Game then
LTDBasti I’ll second that
That episode will be coming within the next day or two
TheXclusiveAce What other 3 attachments should I put on the M4 besides commando grip and compensator
I started focusing more on ads speed and I'm doing much better now.
Sameeeee
Great video Ace. I'd love to see more videos like these that show the differences with the attachments and how the pros and cons affect the the guns. Looking forward to the gun guide videos.
would love to see an updated "warzone" version of this that includes "best set ups" for example, i think MOST players would agree that, for the m13, monolithic suppressor and tempus marksman barrel are the "must have" attachments. would love to see the best foregrips to compliment these attachment types. I would assume commando foregrip is still the best but i see a lot of people run the ranger foregrip so would be interesting
Yeah im running the m13 too and I don't know if I should use the ranger or commando foregrip
@@mikaniesing8321 i personally find the commando better. Any other foregrip feels like it slows ADS too much for me.
9:20 feel bad for him that's how u know they need to fix spawn
have you seen ROBLOX - game.Arsenal (Map) sandtown spawns?! (┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻━┻
I've just been using muzzle break and a commando grip, as I find vertical recoil to be both much easier to control and much more favorable to horizontal recoil.
See aiming stability affecting idle sway is something that should definitely be annotated in the description of the attachments. Was looking for the difference between rubberized grip tape and granulated. Didnt understand how something could less steady but help recoil at the same time until I watched this. Thanks!
I respect you Ace, this probably took a lot of work but I loved it and it was really helpfull
actually, for the M4, i feel like muzzle brake + commando foregrip works best by maxing out on the horizontal spread.
King E With the Corvus Barrel, it’s godly
Gonna try it
I still do not understand how you don’t have more subscribers because you by far are one of the best CoD youtubers. Just by your work, what you provide to the audience (information and entertainment) and so much more. Keep up the hard work, I look forward to your videos this year!
Also 9:18 lol wow that was a supreme spawn
This game is so fleshed out with the guns and attachments. I love it ! Can't wait for more in-depth vids
I really love the FAL but that recoil is insane when u try to go max firerate
wonder if I should grind out to get burst for FAL. just hate getting punished by m4a1 people when using FAL.
@@jessesimonds6744 Burst is really good on the FAL! It really reduces the recoil while the burst itself has max rpm or even a faster rpm than max semi-rpm.
@@BIackSkillX Does the burst hit harder than the Famas? because sometimes that gun takes 2-3 burst if no headshots land
@@jessesimonds6744 Yes, it usually takes 1 less shot, but may vary on the body part you hit and the distance
@@BIackSkillX awesome going to give Fal a go again, gave up on it lately
3:50 you headshot a little girl, you monster..
Damn dude, you went through and dotted every single bullet hole for every attachment on every gun by hand? Kudos for all the hard work! 😦
Compensator and Commando Forgrip. Saved you 10 min. Still very informative video. Nice work man
This was really helpful, keep up the great work!
9:19 hey ace that's some brilliant spawn there. 🤣
Great video, I come back frequently and what I noticed is that I would love to have barrels included in your considerations as at least the M4A1 barrels have recoil related attributes. I understand that you wanted to stick with the seven “general” attachments across all weapon types and you included the barrels in your specific M4A1 gun guide, however to have a full picture in terms of “recoil management” it would fit here from my point of view. Thanks and keep up the good work! 😊👍🏻
The thing I noticed with the first set of tests 2:47 is that the bounce from the first shot to the second is all reduced significantly by those attachments - which is more beneficial than the rest of the recoil pattern makes it seem, as you'll hit your early shots. Possibly something you missed Ace
How I remember it:
Recoil control = climb
Recoil stabilization = side to side
Which one works out best for you
Rob depends what gun you’re using
@@acebrawler2000 I've been using the Mp7 and corrupter AR.
"Commando Forefrip" POGGERS
This is why I watch you. Your videos go in depth with a lot of testing and statistical evidence. Keep it up!
You're the man, Ace. I love the scientific/analytical approach. Thanks
Does having multiple “recoil control” attachments greatly reduce the recoil then or is it capped at 1???
It stacks but it recoil pattern becomes really weird (especially the RAM-7 or the M4). You’re better off putting a Control Attachment and a Stabilization Attachment to get the full effect out of it
@@acebrawler2000 or at least one stabilisation one, otherwise you get something with horizontal recoil weirdly
Yeet Meister the best of both worlds you can get is compensator alongside with the commando foregrip. You get reduced horizontal and vertical recoil so you are more accurate. Also I recommend putting on the longest barrel on a gun that helps with your vertical as well such as the “Stock M16 Grendier” barrel on the M4A1.
Can you make a video on ADS improvements and sprint out times and how minimilise the times for both
As a returning cod player since mw2 I felt pretty lost. Looking for videos explaining perks and etc I stumbled on your channel. This is exactly this kinda of content I watch when I play a new game. The technical side. Keep it up, I subbed and hit that bell icon!
One thing that is interesting is the grouping of the shots. Usually, you are not going to spend a whole mag into one guy, if you do you are dead already. Probably the first 10 shots are what it counts, from the images you can notice that some attachments provide better groupings, thus helping land the first 10 shots more easily and killing the enemy faster.
Hey Ace my how do you feel about people saying all the maps should be removed
Oh yes that is a super reasonable and easy change
Ameer Rehman I personally think that people should learn the maps before calling for them to be removed
I actually agree all the maps are way too big(-gulag showers)but it just make the pace of the game way too slow i understand the game is ment to be realistic but its just not fun to play for me
If they where to fix it they could just release 1 good map and remove one of the old ones and fix them 1 by 1
Everything else however is good the guns is good(snipers need a buff) and story is fire so i would rate mw right now a 5/10
Swagboi deathfist I was joking
Hey Ace! Thanks man! What about the "bipod" attachment?
yeah he kinda forgot about it lol... from what i seen i think he said it basically isnt worth it because ots similar reduction to the foregrips, but you have to be crouching or laying down for it to work
The best guide about recoil in all of RUclips
XRK M4 has Commando Foregrip and FFS 12.4" Predator instead of compensator, but it obviously has great recoil control. FFS 12.4" doesn't have the PROS Recoil Control.
I all ready uninstalled. just supporting the video.
JimisJames why did you uninstall?
@@Creeper333pl because the game is garbage
@@King-AD it's the people playing, not the game. Just imagine what's gonna happen when the Christmas Noobs come to town.
Did you get it for Xbox and did you get a hard copy or digital?
No need to announce your departure.
yeah naming those effects "horizontal recoil" "vertical recoil" "idle sway" "idle wobble" would be too easy and too telling.. wtf is wrong with the heads of the gameplay in this game
@@cash7669 huh? What did they name it now?
Because placebo effect is a thing
I love this content! You take a deep dive with a real methodical approach to evaluating attachments. Subscribed
I never regret watching an Ace video, thanks for putting in the time to make this, helped tremendously!!
Mr. Ace when are you going to release the gun guides for COD MW
After I get the important attachments covered so I won't have to repeat myself too much in each gun guide and I can keep them a reasonable length
@@TheXclusiveAce I want videos longer than 10 minutes
They'll be longer than 10 but I'm trying to keep them under 20 minutes
@@TheXclusiveAce Thanks for replying to my comment. It is like the best thing that has happened to me today
9:21
This is when I uninstall
After watching this vid, I looked at your subs and holy shit man how are you not even at 1M? I wasn't even aware of this till now, these are the type of videos where you shine and you've been a great help for me since BO3, you deserve more man you're a great help with these types of videos, at least for me and Ik that's the case for a lot of others
Edit: on top of that, I always see the amount of work that is put into these videos or any other (gun guides, maps exposed, etc.) And that is something I always appreciate
You sir are a scientist and a scholar. Thanks, for all of your work on finding the best way to melt a camper head glitching in a corner.
Don’t want to experience recoil and worry about wasting an attachment on controlling it?
Don’t worry!
JUST SIT IN A SPAWN WITH THE 725 SHOTGUN
I have never had this little fun playing cod. Campers everywhere
same. hate this game already and regret buying it
kekw, play it right.
@@Max-dv1kq or with other words: Play it without using your left analog stick and be a pussy. stfu this game is trash
Hay Rettin i’m not touching this game again until they change something that nerfs camping into the ground
Try HQ. The problem is most modes don't have a proper objective
I'll say it here, I'll say it to your face. You are the king of CoD man.
Can you revisit this? I think aiming stability actually makes a difference in recoil when shooting. For example put a m16 stock on an m4...
What about a video on "how to stay alive and keep your streak going"
My highest killstreak is 10, it is so dumb that you can call one single UAV per life and if everyone on the enemy team is using ghost you are fu..k
Antonio Ayala they Made the game a constant loop of one thing canceling the next and so forth. These videos are dumb. Play how you’re comfortable and figure out ways to fuck up the meta
Fantastic video! I love seeing the effects of modifications instead of just being told what to use.
This was more a confirmation video, for me. Thank you for sealing the deal. No more supressors, or silencers. 🤘🏻😁
I wonder if you flipped it and instead of comp (control)+commando(stab) you had muzzle brake (stab) + merc (control). Merc also gives you hipfire, so on the MP7 which I hipfire with a lot, maybe that's a better way to go.
I like how you describe what matters and we build it ourselves
I’m rarely comment on youtube but man XclusiveAce you are the GOAT!
So glad i found you 2 years ago.
From what I observed, with practice, you dont need much recoil control attachments once you got the feel or control of your weapon in game. ADS speed and movement is more critical in game.
TLDR - Compensator + Commando Grip is great at handling recoil. Most Recoil setups on their own aren't worth much.
*Single shot* > use recoil/ aim stabilization attactments. Keeps you from fighting the gun too much at range.
*Full auto* > use recoil control attactments. Just.... spray and hold on lol
I was waiting for you to post a video about this, you're the best! I can't wait for those gun guides!
Love that Spawn at 9:20, the sound effect was classic! Great video Ace, can't wait for your next one.
Used to watch a ton during BO4. Glad to be back. Thx for all u do my guy
Really looking forward to the gun guides. They're always some of my favorite cod vids on RUclips
Gun guide is gonna be lit this year.
Good stuff bro. Out of dozens of dozens of other channels, looking at similar info. You're only one I subscribed to. Good work, all around, really.
3:14 The Rubber rear grip makes a difference. Look at your own patterns! 5 shots land between what only 2 would do on the base weapon.
Seems like it might reduce vertical recoil on a bullet-by-bullet basis for x% instead of directly changing the max magnitude like the compensator, but I don't know. If that is the case then the reargrip would actually be a lot better on certain guns with recoil patterns where there is a lot of empty space between shots.
Actually now that I say that the other attachments do the same thing but they also seem to just reduce the total a lot more
This is the kind of information serious players need . Keep making them. Thank you bro. 👍🏼😎
I don't know what I would do without yours videos Ace.....keep it up
This is incredibly thorough and well done. Thanks for taking the time to make this.
Which attachments reduce camping?
lool
Grenade launchers because you can shoot it into a house hehehehehe
Noob tubes with incendiary rounds
i think you should add a vertical line up from the first bullet on the recoil patterns so we can see how much they deviate laterally
Yayyyyyy I can't wait for the ADS speed video! Thanks for this one Ace I've been looking forward to the series coming out
I was waiting for this science myth to be cracked off, thank you Ace. Next myth which I am looking for is "Stock Variants" because I can't see the different between "No stock" and Base Gun at all. I will hold my breath for you to crack this.
In my testing I have concluded that Combining the merc foregrip with the 5mw Laser on the MP5 gives no penalty while moving. Try it out ACE!
Incredible guide! You are really turning cod into science and I applaud you for that!
I was mostly going with attachments that help recoil and was doing lousy. Switched to ones that help ADS and started doing a lot better. Didn't think the M4 was that slow to aim but apparently it is. Also, latency doesn't help matters (mine changes from 300 to 850 range depending on the time of day or if my wife is watching shows)
Been looking forward to these for the past two months!!! Woohooo thanks Ace
Excellent work ace!! Other RUclipsrs can't compete with your gun videos!!