Great conclusion video. You bring us a lot of quality content. This video is no exception. Very informative without making a long video. Some folks out there could take a lesson, or two from you.
I just bought a Hellcat brand new about a month ago and finally started shooting a week ago, and between three trips to my local indoor range I have put 300 rounds through it so far and not a single malfunction so far and I will be going again tomorrow and Thursday putting a couple boxes through it each day. I bought the OSP version and I just put a holosun 407k on it and it's my first firearm with an optic so I'm practicing to get good with it so lots of trips to my local indoor range, but yeah, 300 straight rounds without cleaning it and no problems so far 🙂
I've owned all three, and I keep going back to the Glock. The other two aren't bad, at all, and are very popular with a lot of people, But I get the best results with the Glock 26/27/30.
All good quality modern handguns are amazingly reliable to me. The differences seem very small. I am old enough to remember the reliability debates and how reluctant police were to change to semi autos, because the standard 1911, Browning Hi-power, PPK, Walther P-38 etc. were just not that reliable. They required expert gunsmithing to function well. Even the wonderful sig P 210s were less than perfect, though amazingly accurate. I remember being on a range near Zurich on range day for the locals and watching basically every handgun jam once a magazine. Of course, a poorly made or maintained revolver can jam as well. I have a Glock 17 that is now at 25,000 rounds with no failure of any kind. My 26 has failed twice to set off really hard NATO primers but never failed on commercial ammo. Of course, ammunition is much better too. You used to open a box of 50 and expect to find a couple with backwards primers or poorly seated primers or an incompletely seated bullet. And this is top line manufacturers.
Many years ago I shot Glock 30 and 36 back to back and was astounded at the difference. Really liked the 30 but the 36 not so much. The extra circumference of the 30 made shooting easier.
How much better is your accuracy with the G26 vs these guys? When I rented a G26 I shot it much better than the 365 that I own and have put over 1,000 rounds through. I'll be renting the hellcat next, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to end up buying a G26. I only hesitate because I pocket carry and worry about drawing it quickly
I have 40k rounds through my g26.4. One malfunction, and that was when I purposely ran it with no cleaning or lube, it went 2249 rounds before it had a ftf. Two drops of oil and she ran again. One of my favorite pistols
I appreciate your comparison of these thr Micro 9's. Well 10mm too! 😮😁 I trust your opinions. It's all about information or my education learning about these, thank you!
Hey can you weigh the slides of 365 vs hellcat to see if that's the reason for the heavy hellcat recoil? Could also be a bad grip frame design of the hellcat
Both the P365 and Hellcat are solid guns, my experience is the Hellcat is the more robust offering and the P365 is the better shooter. The Hellcat is really designed like a beefed up Glock and inherits the Glock reliability. I was all aboard the Sig train a few months ago, loved my 365XL and bought a 320 AXG Pro. The 320 died after 20 rounds, had to send back to Sig, had a catastrophic failure of the trigger bar and the gun was completely dead.Once I got it back I traded both off as I had lost faith in the platform. Luckily Im a Glock guy and already had a G45 and picked up a 43X for situations that require a smaller gun. I’d be really interested in a comparison between the 43x/48, Hellcat Pro and P356XL/XMacro as I feel those are the best size all around carry guns, small enough to flex into pocket carry, but big enough for home defense or light duty use, if Glock ever makes a 26 MOS with a rail, that’ll be my primary carry.
SPN I have a question about your sig p365 so after you put 500+ through it would you carry in your rotation or is it strictly just a range gun for your?
Can't wait to follow the Hellcat journey. For me, it's my most accurate pistol. The old lady doesn't like the snappiness and says the grip hurts her hands. 🤷♂️ She did enjoy the Tisas PX9, though. Shot it's first 100 rounds earlier. Excellent bargain pistol!
@spnfirearms I know the channel is more about EDC, but my PX9 is the Duty model, and it's a pretty big gun. They do have a Carry version, but not for as good a price as I found the Duty model through Dunhams website. The Duty version is bigger than my SD9VE, but the grip is way better. I'd imagine the Carry model is similar in size to the Hellcat Pro since they both use 15 round flush mags.
I'm curious on the Hellcat. I had one for 2 years, over 3, 000-4,000 rounds down range with it. Then it started having issues with slide locking back with cartridges still in the magazine, 1 crushed bullet as it was going into the battery,. Sent it back to SA in IL twice and they never could get it to run right. They claimed nothing wrong even though we had video evidence. Sold it and now have 2 holsters that are useless and took a loss on the Hellcat. I really liked it too, but not even SA could fix it. It was manufactured in 2021 and had issues with it in 2023.
Thank you so much for spending the time to do these tests! Im very curious how the "budget" options fare. Max9 vs shield will be curious. My money is on the shield
In sales, but they are the most sent back handgun as well as the p320 compact and p322. Ask your gun smith, ask your rental range, ask your local store. Glocks don’t come back the way sigs do. They may sell a lot but are plagued with issues
The only thing I didn't like about the Sig is the the back of the magazine baseplate has sharp corners that dig into my palm. Easily fixable. It's a surreal feeling holding a gun that small that holds 10 rounds. Anyways, given all that I carry a Glock still haha.
He isn’t wrong about the sigs finish. I rarely carry it because I have to brush rust off it (especially the controls) sometimes after a few days of carry. I am in bad weather at times but others I have used in same condition for years have not had this problem. It depends on lifestyle and would likely be fine for most users.
You have the pinky grip on the 365 and the flush base plate on the Hellcat. Why not swap it for a more equal comparison? A full proper grip could've changed your recoil perception. Your dipping could also be the lack of a good grip and not the trigger.
I’m liking the idea of a 357 sig. In your opinion, would you go Glock 30SF or a M&P with the 357 sig conversion? Recoil on the 357 sig about the same as 45acp? I have both options available slightly used but the budget for one or the other after buying a URGI. I’m also on the fence because if 357 sig recoils significantly, I’m wondering if it’s worth it as I own 10mm’s already. I like 357 sig on paper more than 45acp. In practicality is why I’m wondering.
Hm… I love the 30SF as it’s a joy to shoot. The .357 has more felt recoil but much better ballistics, is a super reliable round and a tack driver. The glock 30SF in .45 has more muzzle flip, is softer shooting and has cheaper ammo. Depending on which smith you are thinking about converting would make that decision for me. I would say Glock 30SF (or the 30s is even better) over the shield. But the m&p subcompact in .357 over the Glock! Respect
@@DS..69 most subcompacts can have this happen with larger magazines without sleeves. Beretta found a great fix for it. Their magazines all have an intention groove that runs up the side of the magazine that mates with a bump inside the mag well to prevent too much movment back or forth. Beretta has some clever engineers.
If memory serves the 1911 went over 10000 rounds in testing in 1910, leading to the adaptation of it and the rest is history, as they say... Modern pistols barely do that... At least as far as I've seen.
Loved the video! C’mon you can’t compare a stainless slide to a regular black slide haha! I have a P365 with a stainless slide and it’s just as flawless as the Hellcat slide . Sig def has a better trigger and less felt recoil like you said, but both have been completely reliable for me as well. Only thing is that my tritium fell out of my Hellcat front sight within the first 50 rounds which was annoying/ a bummer. Sight picture is definitely a preference thing. I thought I would love the U rear notch of the hellcat but I just shoot better with the Sig sights
@@spnfirearmsYea the stainless slide P365 looks awesome. I wish they still made it. I’m gonna put it on an XL frame (possibly one of my armory craft frames) and turn it into a P365X
Interesting, that you wound up not liking the U notch sights.🤷♂ I have not had this experience. In-fact, I thought I would hate the sight picture of my Hellcat and XDmE 10mm and I ended up loving the U-Notch... I wish my FN Reflex's had the same sights...
@@justin5421 I don't necessarily hate the sights on the Reflex, but the U notch sights did surprise me how much I did like them. I have red/green dots on everything anyway, not a lot of iron sight shooting.🤷♂
Dude, I wish I could still run 500+ rounds out of my Hellcat in one sitting, mad respect.👍 I no longer carry my Hellcat as the FN Reflex has proven to be so much nicer to me at the range, but man that little kitty is reliable AF👍 In addition to the Hellcat, I also own the XDmE 3.8" OSP Compact 10mm, the 10mm shoots softer than the Hellcat...🤷♂
These are the 2 micro compacts I own as well. I agree the reflex is slightly more pleasant to shoot, but I will say I simply feel more peace of mind carrying a microcompact with a 6 pound trigger vs. the 4 pounds on the reflex. Probably just a matter of practicing and getting more used to it though
Man I really think the slide lockback issues you’ve had with the 365 in the past are just really really bad luck. Say what you want about Sig as a company or the p320’s issues, but the general consensus online for the p365 specifically is one of great reliability. All of its early issues were addressed longgg ago. Yes Glock has history on its side, and probably has technically better quality control, but if you own a p365, and have personally trained with it and vetted that one yourself, I see no reason that it shouldn’t be trusted to carry. It’s sales to success ratio is way too high
No sir! It’s ran everything… hardcast for the woods, civil liberty defense, hst’s, underwood, every kind of training ammo etc. it was just this one failure to feed where it was federal synertech or whatever with the weird coating on the projectile. The round went a bit sideways and it was with my Glock 20 mag. Ran flawless the next 200 rounds we stayed there and shot.. not sure what to make of it. Respect
@@spnfirearms it’s a highly sought out pistol but people hesitate due to its shaky take off. I know you got a new guide rod…let’s take her out for a SPN….
Dude I have a Hellcat pro and the P365x macro comp,, and I’ve shot the shite out of both them with all kinds of ammo,, Plus P,, NATO,,, Hollow point,,FMJ,,,Flat nose,,different grains and I’ve never had a problem with either…The Sig has a much better trigger,, but I love the way the Hellcat fits in the hand and I shoot it a touch better., Why idk… I guess you could say the Hellcat trigger is probably safer for carry it’s got the trigger safety and it’s a heavier pull,, idk …just to end on a positive note lol
You get the jam during the bear attack 😂 actually, a dude was recently attacked by a bear and his gun jammed and I literally was like what gun failed this man. That was like a month ago, the bear ripped his jaw off 😬
Hey, SPN. Would you be interested in a trigger kit for the Hellcat? I have a Powder River kit I was trying to sell. People are so cheap and annoying these days, I’ll just donate it to your channel if you want it. It has a silver trigger shoe with black safety blade, probably would look good in the bi tone Hellcat. Let me know.
Dude I know you have problems with the hands just like I do I don't know how you could go to so many rounds I usually take 400 that's it for me my hands feel like crap after that
I can summarize without watching, the Glock was the best shooter, most reliable and you love it - but it's too bulky for ya. Nah, I'm probably wrong, I'll edit later if I am.
I have to agree. Many guns are built to make it a couple hundred rounds so people think they are built well. Especially the budget stuff. It's when you get to the thousands that we see the garbage seperate from the quality.
My 4 hellcats have over 20000 rounds between them. This was just 500 Vs 500 rounds in one sitting, in one video, in less than 35 minutes in shot over 1000 rounds. And you are wrong because my sig broke at 450 rounds. Locked out of battery with a round in the chamber.
@spnfirearms Disagree. Been a Cop 20 plus yrs. More then a few range masters gave me those numbers. Some of the best in law enforcement. A few that shoot competition. So I have to go with that, and my own experience.
@@DeusRegum and I can see why there's large swaths of kids who are refusing to go to school I'm not going to waste my time around foolishness like that. I've come back about 6 minutes after I made this comment to edit and ask myself why do I care so much
I want to see a series about how you hate the Sig so much that you want to see how many rounds it takes before it finally fails you. Then you at the end after about 100k rounds and something has to be replaced, you can say, "See? Sig is so unreliable! Sig uses its buyers as beta testers and after only 100k+ rounds, it failed me!" or, "SIg's trigger is trash! After 100k+ rounds, I did not get one blister or even Glock knuckle!".
A G29 is not a good bear gun, it's short 3.7 inch barrel doesn't give a proper 10mm round the velocity it needs to be a very effective round. Use anything with a 5 inch or more barrel in a Buffalo Bore or Underwood 10mm.
First off, I have not shot either of these guns. But both feel great in the hand, both have amazing sites. I gravitate to the 365x for the compact size with just a bit more grip. Micro-Goldilocks. Now if only I could shoot before I buy…
Yeah that and sig has a nasty habit of not putting safetys on their guns. I don't buy the bs people spew about not having a safety being so much faster to draw and protect yourself than not having one. Especially when you consider that you will most likely never even have to use your gun in self defense. Makes way more sense from a probability standpoint to have a safety on the gun you plan on carrying in which the barrel will most likely be pointed at your body at times. So look for a model of the P365X with a Manuel safety included if you're going to carry it because a lot of them have no safety.
Video here: ruclips.net/video/wdP5VtRV8EU/видео.htmlsi=QNcZlOijBha3T9UG
I cant wait to see how well the Ruger max 9 vs the shield plus
I got you! Respect!
Can you include the kimber R7 mako in this comparison.
Sd9. 2.0 also
@@spnfirearmsdefinitely wanna see this as well and add in the Glock 26
Journey of the hellcat? Im here for it
Yessir! We are going to run it until it can’t run anymore
Cool.
I honestly can't believe anyone would consider the P365 or the Hellcat to be crappy or unreliable firearms.
They are excellent firearms. I use the p365 and it runs and runs and runs. Never has issues. Feeds anything I put in it.
I’ve never heard anyone say these 2 guns would jam with 500 rounds I’m curious where he got that from
Thanks for the follow up. Enjoyed the comparison.
Thank you for the support. Respect
Great conclusion video. You bring us a lot of quality content. This video is no exception. Very informative without making a long video. Some folks out there could take a lesson, or two from you.
I really appreciate that man. That’s the kind of support that keeps me going! Lots more to come, respect
I just bought a Hellcat brand new about a month ago and finally started shooting a week ago, and between three trips to my local indoor range I have put 300 rounds through it so far and not a single malfunction so far and I will be going again tomorrow and Thursday putting a couple boxes through it each day. I bought the OSP version and I just put a holosun 407k on it and it's my first firearm with an optic so I'm practicing to get good with it so lots of trips to my local indoor range, but yeah, 300 straight rounds without cleaning it and no problems so far 🙂
Love to hear it man, great choice. Respect
Brilliant video.
I've owned all three, and I keep going back to the Glock. The other two aren't bad, at all, and are very popular with a lot of people, But I get the best results with the Glock 26/27/30.
All good quality modern handguns are amazingly reliable to me. The differences seem very small. I am old enough to remember the reliability debates and how reluctant police were to change to semi autos, because the standard 1911, Browning Hi-power, PPK, Walther P-38 etc. were just not that reliable. They required expert gunsmithing to function well. Even the wonderful sig P 210s were less than perfect, though amazingly accurate. I remember being on a range near Zurich on range day for the locals and watching basically every handgun jam once a magazine. Of course, a poorly made or maintained revolver can jam as well. I have a Glock 17 that is now at 25,000 rounds with no failure of any kind. My 26 has failed twice to set off really hard NATO primers but never failed on commercial ammo.
Of course, ammunition is much better too. You used to open a box of 50 and expect to find a couple with backwards primers or poorly seated primers or an incompletely seated bullet. And this is top line manufacturers.
Absolutely loved the range video, the Glock 10mm jam threw me off for sure, but LOVED the presentation, your evaluation here was amazingly done.
Thanks man, that means a lot. I appreciate that. And it threw me off too.. so unexpected. Respect
The P365/Hellcat 1000 round video was great.
I've opted to carry Critical Defense Lite 100gr 9mm in my Hellcat because of it's reduced recoil and the Hellcats snappiness. Great pistol so far.
Great choice setup! Respect
Thanks SPN, always consistent good content.
Many years ago I shot Glock 30 and 36 back to back and was astounded at the difference. Really liked the 30 but the 36 not so much. The extra circumference of the 30 made shooting easier.
How much better is your accuracy with the G26 vs these guys? When I rented a G26 I shot it much better than the 365 that I own and have put over 1,000 rounds through.
I'll be renting the hellcat next, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to end up buying a G26.
I only hesitate because I pocket carry and worry about drawing it quickly
I shoot the Glock 26 better than any handgun I own! I shoot it faster and more accurate for sure. But the hellcat is just so easy to carry! Respect
I have 40k rounds through my g26.4. One malfunction, and that was when I purposely ran it with no cleaning or lube, it went 2249 rounds before it had a ftf. Two drops of oil and she ran again. One of my favorite pistols
Applying pressure from what the consumers desire. You da peoples champ 💪🏽
Great video. Im glad the 365 did well. I made the 365 and the variants of it my main rotation of carry guns and i have lots of magazines for them
People say the hellcat trigger is trash I highly disagree it’s a great trigger to me right out the box just my opinion but great video.
I appreciate your comparison of these thr Micro 9's. Well 10mm too! 😮😁 I trust your opinions. It's all about information or my education learning about these, thank you!
Yes exactly, that’s why I do it! Respect and thank you sir
Great comparison videos. Nice job 👍
Thanks man, I gladly appreciate that! Lots more to come. Respect
Always good content I love my 43x but find myself carrying LCP MAX because of how easy to carry always. Key being always.
I understand completely! Respect and thanks for watching
Love my Hellcat , especially after the PRP trigger upgrade.. perfect I had a 365 , it's the only gun I've ever sold .
Love the hellcat too. It’s so solid. Respect
Thanks for the info SPN
No problem, thanks for watching and respect. Lots more to come
Cant wait for the next one man. This needs to be your full time job🎉
Agreed👍 If I want to see anyone become a success on RUclips, it is SPN Firearms.👍
Hey can you weigh the slides of 365 vs hellcat to see if that's the reason for the heavy hellcat recoil?
Could also be a bad grip frame design of the hellcat
I love my Sig, Nice video
I shoot just as bad with a red dot as iron sights!😁
Haha fair enough, fair enough! Respect
Naw you're gonna have better hit rates on the red
Both the P365 and Hellcat are solid guns, my experience is the Hellcat is the more robust offering and the P365 is the better shooter. The Hellcat is really designed like a beefed up Glock and inherits the Glock reliability. I was all aboard the Sig train a few months ago, loved my 365XL and bought a 320 AXG Pro. The 320 died after 20 rounds, had to send back to Sig, had a catastrophic failure of the trigger bar and the gun was completely dead.Once I got it back I traded both off as I had lost faith in the platform. Luckily Im a Glock guy and already had a G45 and picked up a 43X for situations that require a smaller gun. I’d be really interested in a comparison between the 43x/48, Hellcat Pro and P356XL/XMacro as I feel those are the best size all around carry guns, small enough to flex into pocket carry, but big enough for home defense or light duty use, if Glock ever makes a 26 MOS with a rail, that’ll be my primary carry.
SPN I have a question about your sig p365 so after you put 500+ through it would you carry in your rotation or is it strictly just a range gun for your?
Can't wait to follow the Hellcat journey. For me, it's my most accurate pistol. The old lady doesn't like the snappiness and says the grip hurts her hands. 🤷♂️
She did enjoy the Tisas PX9, though. Shot it's first 100 rounds earlier. Excellent bargain pistol!
I’m looking into getting one. And yes we are going to run the hellcat through it’s paces! Respect
@spnfirearms I know the channel is more about EDC, but my PX9 is the Duty model, and it's a pretty big gun. They do have a Carry version, but not for as good a price as I found the Duty model through Dunhams website. The Duty version is bigger than my SD9VE, but the grip is way better. I'd imagine the Carry model is similar in size to the Hellcat Pro since they both use 15 round flush mags.
I'm curious on the Hellcat. I had one for 2 years, over 3, 000-4,000 rounds down range with it. Then it started having issues with slide locking back with cartridges still in the magazine, 1 crushed bullet as it was going into the battery,. Sent it back to SA in IL twice and they never could get it to run right. They claimed nothing wrong even though we had video evidence. Sold it and now have 2 holsters that are useless and took a loss on the Hellcat. I really liked it too, but not even SA could fix it. It was manufactured in 2021 and had issues with it in 2023.
Thats weird especially with the factory not even finding the problem.
Thank you so much for spending the time to do these tests!
Im very curious how the "budget" options fare. Max9 vs shield will be curious. My money is on the shield
No problem, thank you for the support. That’s how I can do them. Respect lots more to come!
If it’s not Glock they automatically say it’s trash
In sales, but they are the most sent back handgun as well as the p320 compact and p322. Ask your gun smith, ask your rental range, ask your local store. Glocks don’t come back the way sigs do. They may sell a lot but are plagued with issues
@@spnfirearmsthe P365 is the most returned handgun? Quite the claim
The only thing I didn't like about the Sig is the the back of the magazine baseplate has sharp corners that dig into my palm. Easily fixable. It's a surreal feeling holding a gun that small that holds 10 rounds. Anyways, given all that I carry a Glock still haha.
Awesome demonstration.
Love this channel
Go sharks 🦈 😁💖
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SPN. Great video! Quick question, where'd you get your 365 wilson combat mag extension?
I believe I got it from armory craft!
He isn’t wrong about the sigs finish. I rarely carry it because I have to brush rust off it (especially the controls) sometimes after a few days of carry. I am in bad weather at times but others I have used in same condition for years have not had this problem. It depends on lifestyle and would likely be fine for most users.
You have the pinky grip on the 365 and the flush base plate on the Hellcat. Why not swap it for a more equal comparison? A full proper grip could've changed your recoil perception. Your dipping could also be the lack of a good grip and not the trigger.
I’m liking the idea of a 357 sig.
In your opinion, would you go Glock 30SF or a M&P with the 357 sig conversion? Recoil on the 357 sig about the same as 45acp?
I have both options available slightly used but the budget for one or the other after buying a URGI. I’m also on the fence because if 357 sig recoils significantly, I’m wondering if it’s worth it as I own 10mm’s already. I like 357 sig on paper more than 45acp. In practicality is why I’m wondering.
Hm… I love the 30SF as it’s a joy to shoot. The .357 has more felt recoil but much better ballistics, is a super reliable round and a tack driver. The glock 30SF in .45 has more muzzle flip, is softer shooting and has cheaper ammo. Depending on which smith you are thinking about converting would make that decision for me. I would say Glock 30SF (or the 30s is even better) over the shield. But the m&p subcompact in .357 over the Glock! Respect
I have found on my Glock 27 that the 15 round magazines will not feed reliably unless I use an XGrip sleeve on them.
It's been known to happen if too much force is applied backwards on the magazines. It's normally nose dive issues.
Some glocks do it some don't.
So much for perfection.😅
@@DS..69 most subcompacts can have this happen with larger magazines without sleeves. Beretta found a great fix for it. Their magazines all have an intention groove that runs up the side of the magazine that mates with a bump inside the mag well to prevent too much movment back or forth. Beretta has some clever engineers.
Hellcat has a hammer forged barrel. I carry a Hellcat pro. Love it!
the most less likely thing to fail in all modern pistols is why you chose the hellcat?...
Off topic question
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if I put a Glock 19 slide on my Glock 17 frame do i know have a Glock 45?
Doesn't work. You have to have a Glock 47 instead of a 17. That's, as far as I can tell, the Only difference with the 47.
If memory serves the 1911 went over 10000 rounds in testing in 1910, leading to the adaptation of it and the rest is history, as they say...
Modern pistols barely do that... At least as far as I've seen.
That Hellcat is beatiful
Are you planning on getting the XTEN Comp? I'm thinking of getting one as my next pistol. Most reviewers I've seen say it's wonderful.
Loved the video! C’mon you can’t compare a stainless slide to a regular black slide haha! I have a P365 with a stainless slide and it’s just as flawless as the Hellcat slide . Sig def has a better trigger and less felt recoil like you said, but both have been completely reliable for me as well. Only thing is that my tritium fell out of my Hellcat front sight within the first 50 rounds which was annoying/ a bummer. Sight picture is definitely a preference thing. I thought I would love the U rear notch of the hellcat but I just shoot better with the Sig sights
Haha fair enough! And I’ve seen that version of the p365.. that stainless on my Wilson combat frame would be sweet. Respect!
@@spnfirearmsYea the stainless slide P365 looks awesome. I wish they still made it. I’m gonna put it on an XL frame (possibly one of my armory craft frames) and turn it into a P365X
Interesting, that you wound up not liking the U notch sights.🤷♂ I have not had this experience. In-fact, I thought I would hate the sight picture of my Hellcat and XDmE 10mm and I ended up loving the U-Notch... I wish my FN Reflex's had the same sights...
@@Disastrous.Affect Lol and I’m glad the Reflex sights aren’t a U notch. I really like the Reflex sights. Orange front sights are my favorite by far
@@justin5421 I don't necessarily hate the sights on the Reflex, but the U notch sights did surprise me how much I did like them. I have red/green dots on everything anyway, not a lot of iron sight shooting.🤷♂
Dude, I wish I could still run 500+ rounds out of my Hellcat in one sitting, mad respect.👍
I no longer carry my Hellcat as the FN Reflex has proven to be so much nicer to me at the range, but man that little kitty is reliable AF👍
In addition to the Hellcat, I also own the XDmE 3.8" OSP Compact 10mm, the 10mm shoots softer than the Hellcat...🤷♂
Love the xdm elite! It’s a beast of a platform. And fair enough, love my fn reflex! We should be doing a 500 round test with the fn too. Respect!
These are the 2 micro compacts I own as well. I agree the reflex is slightly more pleasant to shoot, but I will say I simply feel more peace of mind carrying a microcompact with a 6 pound trigger vs. the 4 pounds on the reflex. Probably just a matter of practicing and getting more used to it though
Gay
I want that Glock 49
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Love that both performed amazingly carry the hellcat regularly only have one sig its the m18 with about 500 rounds in an it hasnt had an issue
Fair enough, great choices and respect
Don’t drop that sig!
@@kogasoldier9379 ill try not to atleast i dont carry it
@@cattlemxn 😂
T-Rex Arms is doing a massive evaluation on micro 9's for anyone here interested.
Would you recommend the 42,43,365 or Hellcat??
Hellcat! Respect
Got a 365 as my like 4th pistol and it was instantly my favorite and everyday carry it now
I'm only about 700 rounds into my hellcat pro, but I haven't had any malfunctions yet. I cleaned it when I bought it and 3 times since
Should've did the 26 instead of the 29
I feel like you’d like the tisas px9 night stalker bro, crazy value for the money got mine for 300 on buds and I love it
It takes sig p226 mags like caniks and taurus’ also takes Glock sights and comes with trittium night sights
I’ll look it up! Respect and thank you
Which one is better for pocket carry in your opinion,the hellcat or the p365?
I think the hellcat can endure more! Respect
@@spnfirearmscool 👍🏻
Take a shot every time he says "100%"
That hot brass is not joke if it hits you
watch the video.. I got hit a bunch by brass from the sig only
I just got a glock 27 for $780 Thanks Cali
Great info 👍 appreciate what you provide 🫡
Thanks man, I appreciate this comment and the support. Respect!
@@spnfirearms you welcome‼️
Man I really think the slide lockback issues you’ve had with the 365 in the past are just really really bad luck. Say what you want about Sig as a company or the p320’s issues, but the general consensus online for the p365 specifically is one of great reliability. All of its early issues were addressed longgg ago. Yes Glock has history on its side, and probably has technically better quality control, but if you own a p365, and have personally trained with it and vetted that one yourself, I see no reason that it shouldn’t be trusted to carry. It’s sales to success ratio is way too high
Been carrying 365xl for years now. After more than 1k rounds I've had 3 malfunctions. 2 hard primers and 1 stovepipe. I can live with that.
Great video, what size gloves do you wear ?
Size large! But I have fat, shorter fingers
@@spnfirearms Thanks for the excellent video
Have a 365 headed to my FFL. Never been a Sig guy but I'm gonna give it a chance. Still want a hellcat but it'll have to wait
Is the Glock a Gen 4 I have the gen 4 Glock 20
Gen. 3!
@@spnfirearms thank you
Have you had any other malfunctions with the 29?
No sir! It’s ran everything… hardcast for the woods, civil liberty defense, hst’s, underwood, every kind of training ammo etc. it was just this one failure to feed where it was federal synertech or whatever with the weird coating on the projectile. The round went a bit sideways and it was with my Glock 20 mag. Ran flawless the next 200 rounds we stayed there and shot.. not sure what to make of it. Respect
@@spnfirearms Thanks for the info. Really appreciate it.
2024, they’ve finally made reliable mouse guns.
G26 Gen 3 vs Shield Plus. I shoot them both like full size. That would be a great idea.
How many modifications have you done to that G29 ?
The video is on the channel, not a single aftermarket part.
Can we see the 500 rounds with the Mete MC9??
Yes!
@@spnfirearms it’s a highly sought out pistol but people hesitate due to its shaky take off. I know you got a new guide rod…let’s take her out for a SPN….
Dude I have a Hellcat pro and the P365x macro comp,, and I’ve shot the shite out of both them with all kinds of ammo,, Plus P,, NATO,,, Hollow point,,FMJ,,,Flat nose,,different grains and I’ve never had a problem with either…The Sig has a much better trigger,, but I love the way the Hellcat fits in the hand and I shoot it a touch better., Why idk… I guess you could say the Hellcat trigger is probably safer for carry it’s got the trigger safety and it’s a heavier pull,, idk …just to end on a positive note lol
You get the jam during the bear attack 😂 actually, a dude was recently attacked by a bear and his gun jammed and I literally was like what gun failed this man. That was like a month ago, the bear ripped his jaw off 😬
Have you got 500 rounds in the stoger yet
Do sum 40s I’m tryna decide between Glock the s&w and xd lol
👍🏻💯
Respect!
Hey, SPN. Would you be interested in a trigger kit for the Hellcat? I have a Powder River kit I was trying to sell. People are so cheap and annoying these days, I’ll just donate it to your channel if you want it. It has a silver trigger shoe with black safety blade, probably would look good in the bi tone Hellcat. Let me know.
Email me! It’s in the description of the Chanel!
Dude I know you have problems with the hands just like I do I don't know how you could go to so many rounds I usually take 400 that's it for me my hands feel like crap after that
500 rounds is not a lot. That’s a few hours on the range.
I would still put the s&w csx above all
Fair enough! Love my CSX! I’ll run that in a video as well Vs another micro 9! Respect
@spnfirearms my csx is my main carry, I also have a dagger with holosun and a taurus g3c toro with a swampfox
A compact carry that you should look into is the rock island armory bbr 310 double stack 45 1911, I love mine
I can summarize without watching, the Glock was the best shooter, most reliable and you love it - but it's too bulky for ya.
Nah, I'm probably wrong, I'll edit later if I am.
100% wrong.
First! Respect
I appreciate that greatly man! Respect!
500 rounds aren't anything. You're breaking it in, if anything. Try about 1,500 to 2,000 rounds. Now you're talking. For each gun that is.
I have to agree. Many guns are built to make it a couple hundred rounds so people think they are built well. Especially the budget stuff. It's when you get to the thousands that we see the garbage seperate from the quality.
My 4 hellcats have over 20000 rounds between them. This was just 500 Vs 500 rounds in one sitting, in one video, in less than 35 minutes in shot over 1000 rounds. And you are wrong because my sig broke at 450 rounds. Locked out of battery with a round in the chamber.
@spnfirearms Disagree. Been a Cop 20 plus yrs. More then a few range masters gave me those numbers. Some of the best in law enforcement. A few that shoot competition. So I have to go with that, and my own experience.
@@DS..69If you’re here commenting, then who’s tailgating cars on the expressway in a Ram 1500?
I just saw some comment under a hi-power pistol video that said "Bro got fake chinese 1911 ☠️"
Dude....
Lmao no way….. the internet is so wild lmao
@@spnfirearms Dude my bad, i mixed up a hi-power and hi-point pistol xD
Who cares what place you came in I got to watch
I watched while you came
@@jason200912 I'm very uncomfortable with that statement but I'll let it slide
@@AmirShafeek It's what they teach kids to say and do in public schools these days.
@@DeusRegum and I can see why there's large swaths of kids who are refusing to go to school I'm not going to waste my time around foolishness like that. I've come back about 6 minutes after I made this comment to edit and ask myself why do I care so much
You probably learned that the P365 was the worst one.
Everyone has their own opinion.. personally I love my P365 no issues and carry it everyday.
2nd!!!
I want to see a series about how you hate the Sig so much that you want to see how many rounds it takes before it finally fails you. Then you at the end after about 100k rounds and something has to be replaced, you can say, "See? Sig is so unreliable! Sig uses its buyers as beta testers and after only 100k+ rounds, it failed me!" or, "SIg's trigger is trash! After 100k+ rounds, I did not get one blister or even Glock knuckle!".
A G29 is not a good bear gun, it's short 3.7 inch barrel doesn't give a proper 10mm round the velocity it needs to be a very effective round. Use anything with a 5 inch or more barrel in a Buffalo Bore or Underwood 10mm.
First off, I have not shot either of these guns. But both feel great in the hand, both have amazing sites. I gravitate to the 365x for the compact size with just a bit more grip. Micro-Goldilocks.
Now if only I could shoot before I buy…
Yeah that and sig has a nasty habit of not putting safetys on their guns.
I don't buy the bs people spew about not having a safety being so much faster to draw and protect yourself than not having one.
Especially when you consider that you will most likely never even have to use your gun in self defense.
Makes way more sense from a probability standpoint to have a safety on the gun you plan on carrying in which the barrel will most likely be pointed at your body at times.
So look for a model of the P365X with a Manuel safety included if you're going to carry it because a lot of them have no safety.
@@cosmicabyss7358 Just keep your booger picker away from the trigger and you will be alright.