He’s not saying that they engineer their bodies specifically to represent something. He’s using metaphor to make their actions in sending the occupants of the Zariman on their voyage sound like an act of generosity rather than the experiment to see whether they would survive & what the long term effects would be before any orokin were to be risked in the endeavour. Again, it’s not literal. It’s self-agrandisement.
Yeah, but I'm guessing it's the actual reason. Orokin were vain beyond belief and had some really twisted standards for anything starting with beauty, so large hand being a symbol of status in their society is entirely plausible and even the most likely explanation. Entrati ties nicely into this too - nobody took his research seriously until he "succeeded", and when he did he refused to do Continuity since, therefore never "upgraded" his body - meanwhile his family as a whole definitely enjoyed their much-boosted social standing from it, hence blue bodies with huge arms.
Actually, just like in our world, a lot of metaphors did come from actual physical representations. Like refering royalty as " Blue blood" the origin comes from Britan... This phrase comes from the fact that at the time, in England, it was not posh to have a sun tan, since manual workers were always tanned from being outdoors all day, so those who stayed indoors had to be wealthy! And without education as we have today, it was belived that when you look at your wrist and see veins, which are blue... you have blue blood. So yes ina way, Tuvul might refer to "great hands shaped to match their generosity" in both, figurative AND literal way. Every metaphor must have come from somewhere.
@@0oAngel0fDeatho0You're missing the point. Their "great hands" do NOT match their generosity. THEY ARE NOT GENEROUS. THEY ARE USING THE ZARIMAN CREW AS SACRIFICES TO DEEM WHETHER IT IS SAFE TO MAKE THE TRIP THEMSELVES. Pay attention.
Duviri people, who are based of orokin also have the long right arms. What's interesting about that is the fact that all of the children you meet are missing their right arms. Even Dominus, who has a prosthetic one. This seems to imply that Orokin would have their arms hacked off at an early age to presumably the modify and graft on at a later age as a sort of rite of passage.
@@commenter_HIMIK-MAN I thought something on the lines that MAYBE Drifter, after watching the adults kill the other kids(since we don't know about other survivors, correct me if im wrong pls) made a "child bad/incomplete, adult good/perfect" subconscious stuff
@@slenderman_proxy8741 This doesn't really make sense. And also why would DE make a weird subliminal message like that instead adding a subtle orokin lore bit?
They basically change their body so they would not ressemble the normal people because Orokons think of themself as Gods basically You can say Albrecht still think of himself as a normal person and that's why he didnt do body modification like the others
he has body modifications. and has at least one known lore point of using body markets. his 1999 body and his orokin body are different, the 1999 body has altered skin not as much as his orokin body which is a grey skin. on other orokin the long arm can be seen to have metal imbedded in it similar to somatic, which are probably used for technology, non of these somatic can be seen on Albrecht's orokin body arms. he is also a very different type of person. who was separated heavily and ostracized until his research bore fruit. so most probably his lack of following the body market trends came down to not fitting in and not wasting time trying to at his hundreds of years age. even in his own home with his family he kept separate. with the only real person around him a non orokin who up kept the interactions himself.
Albrecht Entrati doesnt have a long arm because he did not use the technique other orokin did to gain immortality. Albrecht is still in his original human body, and is very obviously aging, whereas most orokin used a power to transfer their minds to new bodies, which are the bluish longarmed orokin we see.
Albrecht wasn't depicted with it even before they had Kuva and Continuity by extension. He only says he won't use Continuity after an unknown amount of time but it was pass the Zariman parades, not that he never used Continuity ever.
its the fugliest design decision. Imagine the only thing youre remembered for is your abnormally long right and specifically right arm. But somehow it just fits to the rest of the game.
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Answer: Aesthetics
IT WAS THE STYLE AT THE TIME
@@noseriouslyimserious4073not every orkien looks like that some look normal
Example?
@@badreedinebedro who? The outcast Albrecht?
He’s not saying that they engineer their bodies specifically to represent something. He’s using metaphor to make their actions in sending the occupants of the Zariman on their voyage sound like an act of generosity rather than the experiment to see whether they would survive & what the long term effects would be before any orokin were to be risked in the endeavour.
Again, it’s not literal. It’s self-agrandisement.
Perhaps but I just interpreted it as Tuvul referring to the long arm as "Great Hands" gets capitalized.
Yeah, but I'm guessing it's the actual reason. Orokin were vain beyond belief and had some really twisted standards for anything starting with beauty, so large hand being a symbol of status in their society is entirely plausible and even the most likely explanation. Entrati ties nicely into this too - nobody took his research seriously until he "succeeded", and when he did he refused to do Continuity since, therefore never "upgraded" his body - meanwhile his family as a whole definitely enjoyed their much-boosted social standing from it, hence blue bodies with huge arms.
@@axelthesqualidqueen5488 as I said, his speech is not literal. That means it cannot the “actual reason”. No matter how much you’re “guessing”.
Actually, just like in our world, a lot of metaphors did come from actual physical representations. Like refering royalty as " Blue blood" the origin comes from Britan... This phrase comes from the fact that at the time, in England, it was not posh to have a sun tan, since manual workers were always tanned from being outdoors all day, so those who stayed indoors had to be wealthy! And without education as we have today, it was belived that when you look at your wrist and see veins, which are blue... you have blue blood. So yes ina way, Tuvul might refer to "great hands shaped to match their generosity" in both, figurative AND literal way. Every metaphor must have come from somewhere.
@@0oAngel0fDeatho0You're missing the point. Their "great hands" do NOT match their generosity. THEY ARE NOT GENEROUS. THEY ARE USING THE ZARIMAN CREW AS SACRIFICES TO DEEM WHETHER IT IS SAFE TO MAKE THE TRIP THEMSELVES.
Pay attention.
If I was THAT rich. I would want to be blue with a long arm, too
Fr lol
Duviri people, who are based of orokin also have the long right arms. What's interesting about that is the fact that all of the children you meet are missing their right arms. Even Dominus, who has a prosthetic one. This seems to imply that Orokin would have their arms hacked off at an early age to presumably the modify and graft on at a later age as a sort of rite of passage.
or that kids are represented in Duviri as a failure of sorts
@@slenderman_proxy8741 why?
@@commenter_HIMIK-MAN I thought something on the lines that MAYBE Drifter, after watching the adults kill the other kids(since we don't know about other survivors, correct me if im wrong pls) made a "child bad/incomplete, adult good/perfect" subconscious stuff
@@slenderman_proxy8741 This doesn't really make sense. And also why would DE make a weird subliminal message like that instead adding a subtle orokin lore bit?
@@commenter_HIMIK-MAN because it's DE and Duviri
They basically change their body so they would not ressemble the normal people because Orokons think of themself as Gods basically
You can say Albrecht still think of himself as a normal person and that's why he didnt do body modification like the others
he has body modifications. and has at least one known lore point of using body markets. his 1999 body and his orokin body are different, the 1999 body has altered skin not as much as his orokin body which is a grey skin.
on other orokin the long arm can be seen to have metal imbedded in it similar to somatic, which are probably used for technology, non of these somatic can be seen on Albrecht's orokin body arms. he is also a very different type of person. who was separated heavily and ostracized until his research bore fruit. so most probably his lack of following the body market trends came down to not fitting in and not wasting time trying to at his hundreds of years age.
even in his own home with his family he kept separate.
with the only real person around him a non orokin who up kept the interactions himself.
And they look goofy lol
I turned blue when I got struck by Eidolon lighting
How dord otokin turn to ancients (also when I started playing in 2015 I thougt that the ANCIENTS are the orokin xD)
They were never mentioned to be the Ancients.
Long Arm Larry
I'm blue dabedi dabeda~
Albrecht Entrati doesnt have a long arm because he did not use the technique other orokin did to gain immortality. Albrecht is still in his original human body, and is very obviously aging, whereas most orokin used a power to transfer their minds to new bodies, which are the bluish longarmed orokin we see.
Albrecht wasn't depicted with it even before they had Kuva and Continuity by extension. He only says he won't use Continuity after an unknown amount of time but it was pass the Zariman parades, not that he never used Continuity ever.
its the fugliest design decision. Imagine the only thing youre remembered for is your abnormally long right and specifically right arm. But somehow it just fits to the rest of the game.
Agree. At least if they had both arms long, it wouldn't look so dumb.
I actually like that they look freakishly weird, makes them stand out from the standard "wow perfect specimen" upper class look.
I'm only just noticing that they just have 1 long arm...
I've played this game for 5 years 😭.
Broooo me to my brain just corrected it so that they just had massive hands
The real answer: The centuries of having to reach items on the top shelf or the top of the fridge. It was natural selection and evolution.
Perhaps the Orokin are the only ones with an extended arm so others ask them for help to get out of reach items.