Thanks, the videos just started because of people coming into the Warframe Discord I frequent with wild lore theories and sometimes citing other content creators. I haven't been watching any lore content creators for years so I can't verify this though.
Perhaps the parts that cant be easily replicated by the foundry in our orbitor are the ones that are being opened by the relics. Any of the base warframes could be made if given the proper materials on the fly and maybe were like a use if nessecary or if the mission calls for it basis.
I like to think that Normal Warframes are fitted with budget parts like a i3 and gt710, while Prime Warframes have premium parts like a Ryzen Threadripper and RTX 4090.
One detail that in my mind always made sense : The golden arches and protuberant pieces in prime Warframes instead of being only for looks, could actually be what is called a " lora device ". The name comes from the lorist twins ( corrupted ancient healers ) who had them implated into their bodies to be able to heal people, altho no one knows how they actually did it...
im in the belief that non prime frames (rank and file as you say) are specters. Copies of the original and basically run by a computer algorithm that simulates the controlling tenno and warframe. Which is why i believe why we can obtain blueprints for their parts, given that technically warframes used to be human (dax) at one point. Which would make no sense why we are able to create them as such, i would say umbra is the only warframe in the game (other than your starter frame) is a true warframe because they were A. around during the orokin empire, and B. in umbras case still remembers things.
Non-Primes being run by a computer algorithm doesn't make sense at all to me as there's no reference to this anywhere. Non-Primes and Primes were used during the Old War so I don't see why the Tenno wouldn't just use or be issued them. Dunno what you mean by "true warframe" since Umbra is also a recreation since he gets blasted in the quest, he was made to remember on purpose while every other frame was made to "forget".
@@tehaisbagusLook up specters on wiki, they were created by parvos and mass produced them, it would make a good amount of sense that the non prime versions were made for this reason, and why we find base blueprints more easily.
I don't believe there's mention of the Specters being mass produced. And if they were specters they would already be mentioned as such e.g. the Solar Rail protectors. It's rather nonsensical to think all non-Primes are specters as there's no basis for that.
Well about the part of some warframe being prime at the start and others having to earn it is due to one reason mainly and not the Tenno. Warframes used to be humans they had their individuality before going mad and needing a Tenno to calm down in the empathetic link between them. So what I believe is that it took a good while for warframes to go mad it may have lasted years before they did and what we learn from Kullervo's lore is that not all of them went mad and they were the ones who were still normal. What I believe is that when the warframes were still sane and operated as intended like some super soldiers they may have gotten some challenges and tasks and tests to which they had to succeed to become Primed and it's not due to the Tenno earning it someways. The tenno may have appeared way later on cause we don't know for how long the Zariman ship was still lost before its return and the warframe project started before the Zariman ship came back and even when it returned the tennos were sealed in cryo pods and their utility was only discovered only when the warframe projected started to get scrapped in Rhino's prime lore. People say second-generation frames were falling limp directly if they didn't have a tenno and so far there is no proof of that. Their argument is they had a tenno from the start so yeah the human that was still inside didn't have thoughts anymore or some stuff like that, but what I believe is that things continued as usual. Orokin's paired the new warframes directly with a tenno as a countermeasure for the new frames to not go rogue and what followed was every warframe worked with it's tenno and the link and controls between them we still don't know what's the exact relation.
We don't know for certain if the Warframes got prime status pre-Tenno, after all I don't know the Orokin would go all in on the Warframes at the start. We can take Titania for instance as she was created while the Tenno were already a thing since Silvana mentions Margulis' execution and presumably the Prime came sometime after. I also went over the Warframes going insane over time rather than immediately in another video. A side note is please use paragraphs, it's hard for me to read a block of text. :(
@@tehaisbagus Thanks for the answer I divided my comment into paragraphs if you wish to read it. I think primes were a Pre-Tenno thing and from my earlier comment, I didn't state or mean that all warframes were prime for the start as we know some needed to earn it like Ivara. So what I believe is when the tenno came the prime status earning followed a normal course only this time both the warframe and the tenno needed to put effort into getting it. And we can actually understand one thing from Ivara's lore that many people didn't think about it, in her lore she was with 2 friends or 3 but they all didn't survive they all died and they were warframes too, and when she succeded her test Ballas told her that she will be remembered and the others will be forgotten. So we can assume there were a lot of different warframes much more than the current 57 that are right now in-game and why we can play them and know their story is because they stood out from others and they were a bit more popular and that's why info's about them were still in the database and books or the Leverian, while others maybe didn't have accomplished much and nothing was registered about them so they're lost forever like Ivara's friends and for example in lua where you can get Voruna Lotus said the void revived old scars and brought back stuff from the past.
And then theres valkyr who has 3 versions, prime, base, and modern, or prime, post alad v, and gersemi, idk if valkyr earned her prime (if so alad experimented on her around the orokin age) or she always had one (if so then the abilities being the same confuses me).
Alad experimenting on Valkyr during the Orokin age would make no sense. The Zanuka project started because Alad was finding Warframes in cryopods in "modern" time due to the events of the Gradivus Dilemma.
imo i think prime is somewhat a title. Some warframes have been prime from the very start cuz maybe they were built stronger than the rest that had to earn it. So for those who got the prime title since they were made, were copied and made into somewhat lesser version of them. Maybe whoever built it was aiming for it to be as strong as the prime ones but failed. But whatever the lore is, they are better so i am not getting any normal frames lmao. Except for helminth that is
@@tehaisbagusI feel you. They really hyped it up by selling the prime resurgence stuff weeks before the quest dropped to "prepare for the new war" and then nothing came of it. It's exactly like how in Halo Infinite we're told a whole war happened but it's all off screen and we never actually got to play the important part of the story. Whatever. That is what happens when you attempt to replicate the glory of the SpongeBob movie. It can't be done.
New War was a horrible conclusion to a decent story Warframe has set up. Sentients were made dumb, Erra turned into a coward, Ballas suddenly is the main villain of the War and the Tenno is sidelined from his own quest.
I get that retcons happen but there's something that tilts me about the way DE does it. I understand DE wants to add cool things into the game and they have to fit it into the story somehow but it feels lazy everytime. They want Prime frames of Warframes that under the og lore shouldn't even have primes because they want more variety, more cool designs, and of course they want the money from prime access. So then they just kinda shoehorn in the new info via random voicelines from this horny Dax lady vendor in maroo's bazaar of all places. Same thing with necramechs. Ballas told us Warframes were a direct response to Sentients turning technology against the Orokin in a really awesome Vitruvian sequence that was interesting and finally revealed one of the main mysteries of the game. Then when Deimos rolled out they just went like "oh btw necramechs were the REAL first response to the sentients even before warframes teehee BYE" and this is relayed to you in a quick radio call while you're the middle of blasting infested in a mission of a minor quest. Like wut? lol. I don't recall them even explaining why or how necramechs became obsolete in order for Warframes to steal the spotlight in the Old War. Especially since necramechs are crazy powerful in-game. Does this game even have actual lore at this point? Maybe I'm just a salty old head Second Dream enjoyer idk.
Thx for the clarification n'wah! I mean I can't believe an n"wah like you could make a contribution like this but by oblivion did you manage to do it! Ps: if you don't know what n'wah means then you're obviously not from morrowind, n'wah.
been loving your short lore vids, after so many years sometimes you just need a little entertaining review
Thanks, the videos just started because of people coming into the Warframe Discord I frequent with wild lore theories and sometimes citing other content creators. I haven't been watching any lore content creators for years so I can't verify this though.
@@tehaisbagus i haven’t really been seeing any lore content creators anywhere besides stallord
Perhaps the parts that cant be easily replicated by the foundry in our orbitor are the ones that are being opened by the relics. Any of the base warframes could be made if given the proper materials on the fly and maybe were like a use if nessecary or if the mission calls for it basis.
I like to think that Normal Warframes are fitted with budget parts like a i3 and gt710,
while Prime Warframes have premium parts like a Ryzen Threadripper and RTX 4090.
One detail that in my mind always made sense : The golden arches and protuberant pieces in prime Warframes instead of being only for looks, could actually be what is called a " lora device ". The name comes from the lorist twins ( corrupted ancient healers ) who had them implated into their bodies to be able to heal people, altho no one knows how they actually did it...
Lora devices haven't been mentioned to be used outside of the Lorists.
@@tehaisbagus that's why i said in my mind...
That’s too bad I like the first iteration of the story where primes were actual Orokin tech whereas non-primes were built based upon Orokin tech
im in the belief that non prime frames (rank and file as you say) are specters. Copies of the original and basically run by a computer algorithm that simulates the controlling tenno and warframe. Which is why i believe why we can obtain blueprints for their parts, given that technically warframes used to be human (dax) at one point. Which would make no sense why we are able to create them as such, i would say umbra is the only warframe in the game (other than your starter frame) is a true warframe because they were A. around during the orokin empire, and B. in umbras case still remembers things.
Non-Primes being run by a computer algorithm doesn't make sense at all to me as there's no reference to this anywhere. Non-Primes and Primes were used during the Old War so I don't see why the Tenno wouldn't just use or be issued them. Dunno what you mean by "true warframe" since Umbra is also a recreation since he gets blasted in the quest, he was made to remember on purpose while every other frame was made to "forget".
@@tehaisbagusLook up specters on wiki, they were created by parvos and mass produced them, it would make a good amount of sense that the non prime versions were made for this reason, and why we find base blueprints more easily.
I don't believe there's mention of the Specters being mass produced. And if they were specters they would already be mentioned as such e.g. the Solar Rail protectors. It's rather nonsensical to think all non-Primes are specters as there's no basis for that.
Well about the part of some warframe being prime at the start and others having to earn it is due to one reason mainly and not the Tenno.
Warframes used to be humans they had their individuality before going mad and needing a Tenno to calm down in the empathetic link between them.
So what I believe is that it took a good while for warframes to go mad it may have lasted years before they did and what we learn from Kullervo's lore is that not all of them went mad and they were the ones who were still normal.
What I believe is that when the warframes were still sane and operated as intended like some super soldiers they may have gotten some challenges and tasks and tests to which they had to succeed to become Primed and it's not due to the Tenno earning it someways.
The tenno may have appeared way later on cause we don't know for how long the Zariman ship was still lost before its return and the warframe project started before the Zariman ship came back and even when it returned the tennos were sealed in cryo pods and their utility was only discovered only when the warframe projected started to get scrapped in Rhino's prime lore.
People say second-generation frames were falling limp directly if they didn't have a tenno and so far there is no proof of that. Their argument is they had a tenno from the start so yeah the human that was still inside didn't have thoughts anymore or some stuff like that, but what I believe is that things continued as usual.
Orokin's paired the new warframes directly with a tenno as a countermeasure for the new frames to not go rogue and what followed was every warframe worked with it's tenno and the link and controls between them we still don't know what's the exact relation.
We don't know for certain if the Warframes got prime status pre-Tenno, after all I don't know the Orokin would go all in on the Warframes at the start.
We can take Titania for instance as she was created while the Tenno were already a thing since Silvana mentions Margulis' execution and presumably the Prime came sometime after.
I also went over the Warframes going insane over time rather than immediately in another video.
A side note is please use paragraphs, it's hard for me to read a block of text. :(
@@tehaisbagus Thanks for the answer I divided my comment into paragraphs if you wish to read it.
I think primes were a Pre-Tenno thing and from my earlier comment, I didn't state or mean that all warframes were prime for the start as we know some needed to earn it like Ivara.
So what I believe is when the tenno came the prime status earning followed a normal course only this time both the warframe and the tenno needed to put effort into getting it.
And we can actually understand one thing from Ivara's lore that many people didn't think about it, in her lore she was with 2 friends or 3 but they all didn't survive they all died and they were warframes too, and when she succeded her test Ballas told her that she will be remembered and the others will be forgotten.
So we can assume there were a lot of different warframes much more than the current 57 that are right now in-game and why we can play them and know their story is because they stood out from others and they were a bit more popular and that's why info's about them were still in the database and books or the Leverian, while others maybe didn't have accomplished much and nothing was registered about them so they're lost forever like Ivara's friends and for example in lua where you can get Voruna Lotus said the void revived old scars and brought back stuff from the past.
And then theres valkyr who has 3 versions, prime, base, and modern, or prime, post alad v, and gersemi, idk if valkyr earned her prime (if so alad experimented on her around the orokin age) or she always had one (if so then the abilities being the same confuses me).
Alad experimenting on Valkyr during the Orokin age would make no sense. The Zanuka project started because Alad was finding Warframes in cryopods in "modern" time due to the events of the Gradivus Dilemma.
Is there confirmation on how much stronger a prime would be than a normal warframe?
I don't think so.
imo i think prime is somewhat a title. Some warframes have been prime from the very start cuz maybe they were built stronger than the rest that had to earn it. So for those who got the prime title since they were made, were copied and made into somewhat lesser version of them. Maybe whoever built it was aiming for it to be as strong as the prime ones but failed. But whatever the lore is, they are better so i am not getting any normal frames lmao. Except for helminth that is
Ever since Helminth I never put Forma into a normal frame.
if warframes were not mass produced then why would someone put serial number on loki and mag? DE trolling us?
the orokin script on early warframe designs are just easter eggs, not stuff you're meant to look hard into
@@ari-mariberry ah, I see
Theres tennobet on excalibur head and arm same with mag and its translate to tenno Hayden
Theyre probably prime warframes
Big if true
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Thank you.
Please talk about everything great about the new war
I didn't like the New War just like I didn't like Lightfall in terms of story.
@@tehaisbagusA fellow Warframe and Destiny player (Cries internally)
@@tehaisbagusI feel you. They really hyped it up by selling the prime resurgence stuff weeks before the quest dropped to "prepare for the new war" and then nothing came of it. It's exactly like how in Halo Infinite we're told a whole war happened but it's all off screen and we never actually got to play the important part of the story. Whatever. That is what happens when you attempt to replicate the glory of the SpongeBob movie. It can't be done.
New War was a horrible conclusion to a decent story Warframe has set up. Sentients were made dumb, Erra turned into a coward, Ballas suddenly is the main villain of the War and the Tenno is sidelined from his own quest.
I get that retcons happen but there's something that tilts me about the way DE does it. I understand DE wants to add cool things into the game and they have to fit it into the story somehow but it feels lazy everytime. They want Prime frames of Warframes that under the og lore shouldn't even have primes because they want more variety, more cool designs, and of course they want the money from prime access. So then they just kinda shoehorn in the new info via random voicelines from this horny Dax lady vendor in maroo's bazaar of all places. Same thing with necramechs. Ballas told us Warframes were a direct response to Sentients turning technology against the Orokin in a really awesome Vitruvian sequence that was interesting and finally revealed one of the main mysteries of the game. Then when Deimos rolled out they just went like "oh btw necramechs were the REAL first response to the sentients even before warframes teehee BYE" and this is relayed to you in a quick radio call while you're the middle of blasting infested in a mission of a minor quest. Like wut? lol. I don't recall them even explaining why or how necramechs became obsolete in order for Warframes to steal the spotlight in the Old War. Especially since necramechs are crazy powerful in-game. Does this game even have actual lore at this point? Maybe I'm just a salty old head Second Dream enjoyer idk.
Well the Warframes did initially start off as a failure before they found the Transference connection but yeah I can see what you're talking about.
The only frame in lore that couldn't be primed is revenent which de fixed via conceptual embodiment
Thx for the clarification n'wah! I mean I can't believe an n"wah like you could make a contribution like this but by oblivion did you manage to do it!
Ps: if you don't know what n'wah means then you're obviously not from morrowind, n'wah.
Unless you're Morrowind bred and born, I'd say most of us are N'wah
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