I think the important thing you've done is identify the type of riding you want to do, the terrain you're doing it on, the distance you'll be riding, and tailored the bike and your mod choices to that. I totally understand the impulse but the problem people run into with adventure bikes is wanting them to do everything perfectly, which is manifestly impossible.
Have tried a similar build but the problem with adventure riding is the constant compromises. To big and heavy=no fun off road, to small and light=no fun on longer trips and bad at carrying luggage. Both on my longer trips to Asia/Africa and my normal adventure riding here in Sweden is the ability to go longer distances is important. The concept of a super light adventure bike just didn’t work out for me. Broken subframes, to much maintenance, short range and not especially fun to ride on fast forest roads. And with my luggage for a week long trip the bike got pretty heavy anyway. I have a two stroke enduro bike that I can take in my van when I what to ride hard enduro or motocross. But for adventure riding my old Ktm 990 adventure is the weapon of choice. Btw, thanks for the great content👍
I kinda went this way too. Owned a T7, got stuck many times because I love the technical stuff of the really unbeaten paths. Sold it for a DRZ (not enduro light, but still a lot lighter). Oversized tank and hwy comfy, yet very capable offroad. Excited for the next episode!
@@BrakeMagazine Same deal here in Norway, but luckily I came across a barely used ‘04 one with only 12k km on the clock that wasn’t too expensive. Rebuilt the carb and now its running like it should: underpowered, vibey and rattling 😅 In all seriousness, its made like a tank!
@@bseidem5112 Very good suggestion, I made a video and asked for suggestions on what could be my next bike. Over 500 recommendations so far, and one of the most suggested bikes is the 690/701. Its a beast of a motorcycle and I would love to own one, but I ultimately found it a bit pricey and ‘too capable’ for my current needs. When/if its time to upgrade the DRZ, I’m going to take a closer look at the 690/701. Thank you for the suggestion, ride safe :)
In July I bought a brand new Beta 350rr Race Edition and did this exact thing to my bike plus a Rekluse clutch and springs for my girth at 325 geared up. I'm using a Montana 650 and running a Giant Loop Mojave. I have built a few bikes from a 690, 701, Husaberg 570, 990r and this Beta 3fiddy is the absolute best!! Thanks Brother! Gripit-N-Ripit!!
Reviewing this after a few years. Between then I’ve gone T7, 701 and now on a minimal adventurised 501. Funny how we all need to take the journey ourselves to realise that lightest is rightest. Or maybe it’s age. 😜
that's what i was looking for to make the mods on my husqvarna fe350 pro. - gas tank - seat concepts comfort seat - krieaga rackless set of 12 l side pannires - dmd2 on 8 inch tablet and holder - new tyres for light travel not hard enduro - small windscreen for tablet security
Brilliant adventure bike! 👏 Able to go on a proper off adventure on UK trails without having to tiptoe around choosing big adv bike suitable trails. Reckon our 701 enduro would fair really well on similar adventure, great off road, pretty ok off it. 👌
@@BrakeMagazine haha! Yes let's make it happen!! 😀🤩 Aaron Knox. Seriously, well done with your vid and channel, love it and well done for showing the fe350 as adv bike alternative 👏
Great video and great channel. I am relatively new to the off-road bike world coming from a car racing background and have found some of your content helpful. Keep up the great work!
Fantastic set up. I have a Husky FE501 and slowly working towards a similar set up. I prefer taking minimal luggage and staying in pubs, to keep the bike really light. You have to come into town once a day anyway, to get fuel. I’ll be interested to see if you can get all your camping gear on the 350. Cheers
Great question. That's part of this right? I'm not massively worried because the plan is to run everything really light weight. Minimal gear because Wales isn't exactly the wilderness. Gearing wise I believe we're 13-52. A lot of the riding is pretty technical so I've kept it the same as I would for Enduro riding. It could probably go up on the front quite easily though. 🙂
Nice! You've made what I reckon is the perfect 'weekender'. I wonder if like me, you will then go 'I'd quite like to go away for a week now' and how you would handle that on this bike say a little jaunt on the TET. If only we could all own 7 bikes eh!
What about service interval? Currently thinking about doing the same kind of project on KTM 350 exc-f, will be used for adventure riding as well as rallyes. But I got concerned if I have to carry oil with and do oil/filter change every other day! How do you handle this? Cheers
I mean, you can probably ride three days comfortably on 350, maybe 5 at a push if you’re using good oil. You’ll get further out of a big engine like a 500, but you’re gonna have to change oil. The volume is low and the engine are high performance really. They’re great short adv ride bikes but not as good long distance. There is a good blog, Moto Hobo who did a lot on a 500.
Well, that's kinda one of the limitations you have to except right. I think you can go further than you think though. Quite a few people ridden a long way without doing a mod like that.
You should check out True North moto' They have a LED turn signal that wraps around your fork work it also has a running light that eliminates right at your front tire for night riding it's an amazing upGrade
Great topic. Thanks for this. Busy with a G450X as well for ADV riding. What sprocket combo are you running to compensate for both race, trail, and ADV trips? Extra on my list after this vid. Lights, possibly Voyager Pro, not convinced yet.
2013 xt1200. 2016 CRF1000 2004 exc525 and 2008 WR250F they do everything I need them to do just not at the same time. Just like the shoes in my closet 1 pair doesn't fit all my moods.
Llel like the lightweight concept vibe be interesting on even a couple of days ride how you cope with the “camp, eat, sleep” issues of multi day trail riding. Not digging all the “American” style references “Back Country” hope that’s not how you see Wales Ha Ha
Sorry for the American influences 🤣🤣 I think I grew up reading and watching too much US moto stuff 😅 Normally I'd say that I'm super happy camping and riding for multiple days but we'll see 😏
Was this shot a long time ago or is it already cold where you are. If so I feel bad for you guys. People think we live in igloos here in Canada, and it's been over 35 degrees celcius all week. You're rocking a toque and a bomber...geez
It's a good point. The reason I didn't is because I don't like them for Enduro riding. If we lived in a more open place or wanted to travel a long way on the road it'll be fine, but this is also my bike for riding enduros, mx and trail riding and for me a 501 is too big. 🙂
@@BrakeMagazine Ahh, that makes sense. I have a 2013 350 EXC-F and I couldn't quite figure out how to get that headlight to work. They don't make one for my model :(
so isn't a "super light" ADV basically just a street legal dual sport with some components to handle longevity (gas tank, tires) and comfort (lighting, ergos, etc)? I think we're putting the ADV label on a bit too much these days whereas the DS label seemed to have gone bye-bye as the years go by
Really the wording is only because the phrase dual sport doesn't exist in the UK or Europe. It's a very US centric term. I agree, ultimately what I'm building is a back country dual sport bike.
@@BrakeMagazine It's made in Europe. More lumen s. Baja is good my buddies got one. But we have tested mine vs his and winner is ET-Racing. It's not like it blows it out of the water. But we both agreed ET-Racing was brighter longer and wider in the forest trials. And it looks better lol cheers
You didn't ride the bikes there, is it even street legal? No turn signals that I can see and would you ride with those mousse tires all day on the road?. Don't see how you can call this and 'ADV' bike. It's just a dirt / enduro with some luggage racks. MEH
I think the important thing you've done is identify the type of riding you want to do, the terrain you're doing it on, the distance you'll be riding, and tailored the bike and your mod choices to that. I totally understand the impulse but the problem people run into with adventure bikes is wanting them to do everything perfectly, which is manifestly impossible.
Cheers. I wasn't super keen on rising down the motorway for hours on an enduro 🤣🤣 This is is such a good comment!
Your comment James is incredibly accurate.
All this time I've been lighting matches wrong. You learn something everyday...
Have tried a similar build but the problem with adventure riding is the constant compromises. To big and heavy=no fun off road, to small and light=no fun on longer trips and bad at carrying luggage. Both on my longer trips to Asia/Africa and my normal adventure riding here in Sweden is the ability to go longer distances is important. The concept of a super light adventure bike just didn’t work out for me. Broken subframes, to much maintenance, short range and not especially fun to ride on fast forest roads. And with my luggage for a week long trip the bike got pretty heavy anyway. I have a two stroke enduro bike that I can take in my van when I what to ride hard enduro or motocross. But for adventure riding my old Ktm 990 adventure is the weapon of choice. Btw, thanks for the great content👍
I kinda went this way too. Owned a T7, got stuck many times because I love the technical stuff of the really unbeaten paths. Sold it for a DRZ (not enduro light, but still a lot lighter). Oversized tank and hwy comfy, yet very capable offroad. Excited for the next episode!
They are so hard to buy here. They're expensive considering they stopped selling ten years ago.
@@BrakeMagazine Same deal here in Norway, but luckily I came across a barely used ‘04 one with only 12k km on the clock that wasn’t too expensive. Rebuilt the carb and now its running like it should: underpowered, vibey and rattling 😅
In all seriousness, its made like a tank!
KTM 690R Enduro R? Not as reliable as the Suzuki but better.
@@bseidem5112 Very good suggestion, I made a video and asked for suggestions on what could be my next bike. Over 500 recommendations so far, and one of the most suggested bikes is the 690/701. Its a beast of a motorcycle and I would love to own one, but I ultimately found it a bit pricey and ‘too capable’ for my current needs. When/if its time to upgrade the DRZ, I’m going to take a closer look at the 690/701. Thank you for the suggestion, ride safe :)
@@bseidem5112 Better at some things and not others.
Love it! I really hope the market moves toward lighter adventure bikes
It would be cool to see something a 690 Adventure
If Suzuki would make a drz450fi Six speed they would own this market. 40whp, a comfy seat and cushdrive hub. Would be a 140kg winner😎
In July I bought a brand new Beta 350rr Race Edition and did this exact thing to my bike plus a Rekluse clutch and springs for my girth at 325 geared up. I'm using a Montana 650 and running a Giant Loop Mojave. I have built a few bikes from a 690, 701, Husaberg 570, 990r and this Beta 3fiddy is the absolute best!! Thanks Brother! Gripit-N-Ripit!!
Reviewing this after a few years. Between then I’ve gone T7, 701 and now on a minimal adventurised 501. Funny how we all need to take the journey ourselves to realise that lightest is rightest. Or maybe it’s age. 😜
Like the intelligent approach, the thinking behind this, maybe the big manufacturers could learn something?
Maybe they could 🤣
Just bought a 2017 300 exc and may try some adventure riding . This helps
Glad! Enjoy your awesome new bike!
Great video, Llewelyn. Thanks. However it might be worth pointing out that mousses are not road legal in the UK.
that's what i was looking for to make the mods on my husqvarna fe350 pro.
- gas tank
- seat concepts comfort seat
- krieaga rackless set of 12 l side pannires
- dmd2 on 8 inch tablet and holder
- new tyres for light travel not hard enduro
- small windscreen for tablet security
I love my voyager pro. especially with the ability to download gpx tracks and see my buddies with voyager pros on the trails.
I'm loving it too so far. Much better than expected
Such a great idea! Now we need to convince the manufacturers!
That’s the most British heater I’ve ever seen. :)
Tyler over at the everide ADV channel has a similar concept KTM 300 XC-W if anyone loves this sort of bike with VERY different scenery!
I'll go check it out!
Brilliant adventure bike! 👏 Able to go on a proper off adventure on UK trails without having to tiptoe around choosing big adv bike suitable trails. Reckon our 701 enduro would fair really well on similar adventure, great off road, pretty ok off it. 👌
Now THAT would be a good video... Husqvarna 350 Adv vs 701 adv... 😏
@@BrakeMagazine haha! Yes let's make it happen!! 😀🤩 Aaron Knox.
Seriously, well done with your vid and channel, love it and well done for showing the fe350 as adv bike alternative 👏
This is going to be good.
Cheers Michael!
Nice. Given me some ideas for my own FE350 👍🏻
If you want some of these parts take a look at my shop and ping me a message :D
Nice vid Llel. Could of watched a longer version. Good addition to your channel. Thanks 👍
Looks like a brilliant project! Looking forward to see how it works.
Thanks!
Right up my street is this - thanks 👍🏻
No problem. Episode two is a fun one!
Yes, Ep. 2 please!
Already filmed and nearly edited 😏
Diffently help me for my intention for working on my WR450F 2021..yes,..Pav Your is the Reference.. Much thank and waiting for next part..
Baja lights = epic!
very nice build. I usually dislike sticker kits, but this one is gorgeous!
You can buy it in our online shop! 🙂
Looking forward to episode 2
I just got a Motominded XL80 kit for my 300XC-W yesterday and it’s insane!
If the Epic is anything to go by I can believe it!
Super cool! Now get me episode 2, hurry up!! 🤟😎
Soon! Patreon gets it sooner!
@@BrakeMagazine btw, i know i'm changing subject but...MotoGeo made a very cool video during a trip to Sardinia with your same bike...awesome!
I have the same bike and am doing the same thing so pretty please do LOTS of vids 😁
This looks awesome. The bike and the series!!
Cheers John!
Great video and great channel. I am relatively new to the off-road bike world coming from a car racing background and have found some of your content helpful. Keep up the great work!
THAT GRAPHICS IS ABSOLUTELY AWESOME! I want I want I want🤩🤩🤣
Pop to the shop link in the description. You can buy them 🙂
@@BrakeMagazine Yes I saw you say it in the video. But I have an old Yamaha DT175. So no graphics or money for graphics on my bike🤣
@@johansmitphotography what a bike though 😍😍
Fantastic set up. I have a Husky FE501 and slowly working towards a similar set up. I prefer taking minimal luggage and staying in pubs, to keep the bike really light. You have to come into town once a day anyway, to get fuel. I’ll be interested to see if you can get all your camping gear on the 350. Cheers
I managed to get all the camping gear on it 😏
Love the build. Can't wait for the next episode.
Coming soon. It's on Patreon early release now 🙂
Amazing timing! I just bought a GasGas 250 4 banger to do exactly this :)
Great choice. Such an awesome bike. I can highly recommend the TPS mod to make the fuelling richer.
Buit mine on the Husky 450FE 2020 17liters fuel tank Haan wheels w cush drive a rack for luggage an a comfy seat.. and carpe iter nav pad..
Nice graphics kit!
Hopefully you are making that graphics kit for the CRF300s as well. Honda is going to sell those as fast as they can make them.
i love that bike
You can buy it if you want 😂
Although I managed to get through deep ruts on a bike with a boxer outline, I still prefer the top-heavy look for off-road .
Epic. Looking forward to this series. I'm doing something very similar with my crf450
Nice!
Great video dude. Thanks! 🇨🇦
Cheers 🙂
Nice video. Well presented and editted. Looking forward to the future riding vids!
More to come!
Are you worried about the weight on the plastic sub frame?
Also what gearing are you running for the ADV riding?
Cheers
Great question. That's part of this right? I'm not massively worried because the plan is to run everything really light weight. Minimal gear because Wales isn't exactly the wilderness.
Gearing wise I believe we're 13-52. A lot of the riding is pretty technical so I've kept it the same as I would for Enduro riding. It could probably go up on the front quite easily though. 🙂
Sub frame is obviously metal, fender is plastic.
@@C_R_O_M________ not on my 2015 husky 350
@@carlhansen8668 wow!
Great stuff! Why did you not consider the Tubliss system as a matter of intrest?
I did consider it, but for the type of riding I want to do it isn't fool proof. You can still get a flat right.
Nice! You've made what I reckon is the perfect 'weekender'. I wonder if like me, you will then go 'I'd quite like to go away for a week now' and how you would handle that on this bike say a little jaunt on the TET. If only we could all own 7 bikes eh!
It'd be an interesting thing to visit at some point. 👌🏽
I like this! The perfect bike for the UK. What are those little aluminium/leather tabs you put on the mudguard? Did you make them or have a link?
They are part of the Kriega OS Base kit. 🙂
90/10. Dirt/street. Not really a great ADV for long trips. But, I’m sure is fun on the single track.
Exactly. Check out the next two episodes to see what we did with it!
when is the graphics kit coming out for the 450l? super stoked on it.
It's out now. We're having a re-tweak on the templates so order times will be a little slower than normal.
With it being an adventure build, have you or do you plan on installing a key so that no-one (mates included) steals your bike outside the pub
No. I just never leave it out of sight.
I want to purchase this graphic kit for my 701 but there are no pictures of it. When will they be uploaded?
Today. We shot them yesterday.
What about service interval? Currently thinking about doing the same kind of project on KTM 350 exc-f, will be used for adventure riding as well as rallyes. But I got concerned if I have to carry oil with and do oil/filter change every other day! How do you handle this?
Cheers
I mean, you can probably ride three days comfortably on 350, maybe 5 at a push if you’re using good oil.
You’ll get further out of a big engine like a 500, but you’re gonna have to change oil. The volume is low and the engine are high performance really. They’re great short adv ride bikes but not as good long distance.
There is a good blog, Moto Hobo who did a lot on a 500.
Oil pan enlargement is out of my league. #1 immediate problem is maintenance interval
Well, that's kinda one of the limitations you have to except right. I think you can go further than you think though. Quite a few people ridden a long way without doing a mod like that.
You should check out True North moto' They have a LED turn signal that wraps around your fork work it also has a running light that eliminates right at your front tire for night riding it's an amazing upGrade
I'll take a look!
Can you post the parts list?
Great topic. Thanks for this. Busy with a G450X as well for ADV riding.
What sprocket combo are you running to compensate for both race, trail, and ADV trips?
Extra on my list after this vid. Lights, possibly Voyager Pro, not convinced yet.
How do the mousse tubes handle road sections?
Not the best tbh. They have limited life if doing big road miles.
@@BrakeMagazine thanks legend. You got a new sub 🤙🏽🤙🏽
Nice one.
I like the music who did it please?
I was very confused going from brake pads to suspension spring rate and valving, but otherwise great video
We have an abundance of off road riding in the UK? Where’s that then?
All over good Sir! It could always be better but at least we have some!
oil change intervalls ..?
Mmm. Depends home you like your bike. By manual it's 15 hours but you can do three days.
Awesome video Llel, thanks for sharing it, the next one looks very promising too, well done! 👍👍
It's decent! Thanks for watching!
2013 xt1200. 2016 CRF1000 2004 exc525 and 2008 WR250F they do everything I need them to do just not at the same time. Just like the shoes in my closet 1 pair doesn't fit all my moods.
Seat concepts seat.You sciatic nerve will thank you.
Even for enduro riding too?
@@BrakeMagazine If you have to drag yer arse down 2 hours of b road tarmac before you can get offroad.Oh and don't forget my old fogey status!
@@BrakeMagazine The seat concept seat doubled the time I could ride the 690smcr-that thing was a feckin plank at the best of times
Llel like the lightweight concept vibe be interesting on even a couple of days ride how you cope with the “camp, eat, sleep” issues of multi day trail riding. Not digging all the “American” style references “Back Country” hope that’s not how you see Wales Ha Ha
Sorry for the American influences 🤣🤣 I think I grew up reading and watching too much US moto stuff 😅
Normally I'd say that I'm super happy camping and riding for multiple days but we'll see 😏
Was this shot a long time ago or is it already cold where you are. If so I feel bad for you guys. People think we live in igloos here in Canada, and it's been over 35 degrees celcius all week. You're rocking a toque and a bomber...geez
It was shot over the winter 🤣
What is the base motorcycle?
Husqvarna FE 350.
Hey, any chance you might make a graphics kit for the Crf450L?
It's done. Going live tomorrow 🙂 Check out the shop link tomorrow 🙂
@@BrakeMagazine you never told me!!! Does it fit the 250L
@@nickdolan8068 Not yet but I can make it 🤣
@@BrakeMagazine you know it makes sense :-)
Incredible!
Where's part 2?
It's live on our channel. ruclips.net/video/mATll4U2nHs/видео.html
Should have started with a 501, no?
It's a good point. The reason I didn't is because I don't like them for Enduro riding. If we lived in a more open place or wanted to travel a long way on the road it'll be fine, but this is also my bike for riding enduros, mx and trail riding and for me a 501 is too big. 🙂
@@BrakeMagazine Fair enough. Sounds like more a "dual sport" than "adv" role, which is cool.
@@f18a Probably yes, but in the UK the term dual sport doesn't really exist. 🙂
@@BrakeMagazine Aha. Understood.
Is that a 2014?
2017 🙂
@@BrakeMagazine Ahh, that makes sense. I have a 2013 350 EXC-F and I couldn't quite figure out how to get that headlight to work. They don't make one for my model :(
so isn't a "super light" ADV basically just a street legal dual sport with some components to handle longevity (gas tank, tires) and comfort (lighting, ergos, etc)? I think we're putting the ADV label on a bit too much these days whereas the DS label seemed to have gone bye-bye as the years go by
Really the wording is only because the phrase dual sport doesn't exist in the UK or Europe. It's a very US centric term.
I agree, ultimately what I'm building is a back country dual sport bike.
Headlight should of got ET-Racing.
Why?
@@BrakeMagazine It's made in Europe. More lumen s. Baja is good my buddies got one. But we have tested mine vs his and winner is ET-Racing. It's not like it blows it out of the water. But we both agreed ET-Racing was brighter longer and wider in the forest trials. And it looks better lol cheers
@@ketchupsos5817 650 euros -lol
@@nickg2431 don’t know what model you looked at ? Mine didn’t cost that much. Dual 5
Uses heat gun to lay down graphics.
Doesn't use heat gun on shrink tubing.
???
The heat gun was borrowed 😅 I moved a few hundred miles away and didn't own one at the time 😊
@@BrakeMagazine
Thanks for the late reply. I figured as much after I got further into the video. Love everything you do!
Getting famous off of comments day 354, so I can live the dream, live every day like it’s your last🤙
So damn fast 🤣🤣🤣
Headlight is too close to front fender
What do you mean? Cos the light catches it?
@@BrakeMagazine yes I suppose so
Just get a DR650se
Literally impossible in the UK
Please,please Duncan anything but that...lol
It will never be a adveture motorcycle. It does not have the right engine configuration.
What is the right engine configuration? What is an adventure bike?
@@BrakeMagazine The engine vibrates too much and it has a short service intervals. An adventure motorcycle must do 70000 kms without issues.
You didn't ride the bikes there, is it even street legal? No turn signals that I can see and would you ride with those mousse tires all day on the road?. Don't see how you can call this and 'ADV' bike. It's just a dirt / enduro with some luggage racks. MEH