F-150 Lightning's Mind-Blowing Range Test Results!
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- Опубликовано: 29 май 2024
- In this range test, we put the 2023 Standard Range XLT Ford F-150 Lightning to the test to see how far it can go! We charged it to 100% and ran it all the way down. You will be shocked at how far we were able to go on a single charge with the Lightning.
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00:00 Intro
0:22 Range
1:11 Charging
2:17 Driving
3:07 One Pedal Drive
3:42 Driving Range Low
4:31 End of Range
4:45 Conclusion
5:54 Outro
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I got my VIN from Ford yesterday and I am supposed to take delivery in mid-August. This is the most encouraging video I've seen. Thank you.
That's great, please let us know what you think of the truck. Our other video's might be of interest to you also!
I've been driving electric for 4 years now and find that the only time range really matters is when I go on a longer trip, which usually includes around 80% highway driving with speeds around 70-75mph. It would be nice to see the consumption numbers under these conditions.
Fantastic result. I just bought a Lightning with the standard range and was curious on its top range ability. I enjoy you channel and the insight it has given me.
This Lightning is at his perfect spot, suburbs and been use like a car
Why buy this then 😂
That is the majority of trucks sold in the US. I want a truck because they are comfortable, and I like hunting, fishing, camping. I do all those things regularly and seldom drive over 200 miles doing them. I will take the better performance and lower cost of ownership. I also really like the idea of not having to deal with gas station BS ever again.
@TheWtikaiser LOL no instead deal with charging stations that aren't big enough to park your truck at which are at gas stations mostly and take perhaps over an hour to charge. You make a lot of logic and cheaper to maintain? Sure when that battery goes let me know how that wallet feels.
I will take a 40 minute stop a few times a year over weekly stops. The batteries last a long time on average. They have been around for a while at this point and every study shows a lower cost to maintain. All of this information is easily available. Cant park your truck??? Try reading something instead of just spewing retard takes.@@JohnnyLightningV10
Yep if you are towing, the F-150 doesn’t make much sense. As a ranch work truck that just plugs in every few days, it’s fine. All about use case.
Local towing is fine. Range is nearly cut in half, but it still beats all my previous ICE F150's for cost because I charge at home.
@@debbiekonkin5768 Not quite. Extended range towing 24' boat fully loaded boat and truck at freeway (70-80 MPH) will get about 170 mile in mountainous terrain. Since you would start at 100%, you would need two sessions of 40 minutes to charge, and one of those times would likely be when you are boating so that may eliminate one of those charge times. I have charged in that situation many times. I have only unhooked the trailer once among all those times, and it didn't take 15 minutes to do so. However, I agree many chargers are less suited for trailers and sometimes you are parking in a less ideal situation. If you towed constantly long distances, this wouldn't be a good fit. However, it works well for a lot more situations than people believe without actual experience.
This was done under almost ideal conditions. I can get almost 160 miles on a charge in my leaf in warm weather and speeds under 70 mph. In the winter, I'm lucky to get half of that.
245 miles of travel and then needing to recharge is not range. Range is how far you can go out and return back to your starting point without having to recharge. You range is 122.5 miles which I get and more in my gas F-150. EV range is unacceptable and time to recharge is unacceptable for more than short 20 miles or less in-town trips only.
To be fair that's a Leaf dude. Not a real car. Batteries probably way more exposed and not temperature-managed as good as a higher end car.
I’m yet to see someone do a range test with the bed loaded to maximum weight
Or hot weather with the air con blasting or even worse, cold winter such as where I am in northern Canada. Case in point, relative of a friend of mine has an oil field type company and he leased a ford lightning to see what it would do for power usage and vehicle usability and he handed it over to one of his employees that has a relatively short commute to work and they plugged it in at work every day. Apparently it was very disappointing in how much power it used and the range was horrible but due to the short commute was not an issue but would never be able to go anywhere distance wise in the winter and plug into what ... a tree ( this is northern Canada after all ! ) , and also it was said that the cab was fricken cold and took the commute to finally warm up. We got as usual some days of -40F or colder last winter, that is the reality of where I live. At the end of the lease it was determined that the lightning used more energy cost wise vs an equivalent ford gas pickup. From what I hear the resale value is not good on those pickups, and for anyone like myself that lives in rural Canada and has to deal with long distances of no services and at times have to tow loads, a pickup like that would be a garage princess .... that is until it burns the garage and house down when the battery decides to go ballistic.
@@debbiekonkin5768 I would imagine Ford has some distance disclaimers to make sure their butt is covered so no one can come back at them when the customer realizes what a variety of real world driving conditions dictate what the actual driving distance experienced is. ( and the towing bills that would be created from driving off in a rural or remote area ) . The good part about a pickup is that a generator can be strapped down in the bed, just bring a pile of gasoline with to power that gen set for a few days, and some food and warm sleeping bag and your all set 😄
Thank you for doing the test. I liked the result. Picking up my XLT next week.
Thanks for sharing and getting straight to the point very informative
Whoa! I ordered a 2023 XLT in Avalanche, as well. Drove it less than 100 miles and traded it in to the ordering dealer for a Bronco. I think I made a mistake. The dealer still has it, too!
Great test. It answered my questions. Thank you.
Excellent!
Too bad Ford took the $7500 EV credit that was renewed in March by raising the cost of the Lighting by $6,000 to $7,000 the very next day of the Government's announcement. Smacks of corporate greed! That's why I canceled my reservation... Goodbye Greedy FORD!
That’s pretty good range for standard.
I would like to see what a ev does pulling a trailer with a 3000 lb race car on it and 500 lb of gear in the bed along with three crew members
A EV is not the vehicle for you.
Can you try the range test with a load in the bed and towing a trailer?
This truck not designed for pulling and hauling…it’s a commuter that can get some light work done. Folks need to accept that. If you transitioning into EV world it’s because you want to get away from the cost of fuel. If you doing hardcore towing and hauling this is not for you.
245 miles in a little over 9 hours 🙃 So your average speed was 27 miles per hour 🤣. You should do a highway range test where your average speed is at least 65 mph.
I was driving in a variety of conditions over the course of a couple days, interstate, highway, city, etc.
Thanks for doing this
Now hook a 5,000 lbs trailer to it.
Why ???? Most truck owners never tow anything?
@@daraghmacgabhann1005 I bought a 2016 F165 new and I have towed about 5 times.
There are a lot of poorly informed comments associated with this video. I own a Lightning Pro, standard range, and I use it like a work truck. I've hauled tons of gravel, sheet rock, plywood and construction trash. Its performance fully loaded to GVWR is virtually the same as when I am making a solo drive to the store; neither range or quickness (and trust me, it is faster than ANY production ICE truck on the road) seem to be significantly affected. What does impact range are the same factors that shorten the range of an ICE truck: Speed (aero drag is a big deal, and an F-150 has all the streamlining of a brick). Climbing grades (tho' you get about 70% of the expended energy back on the downhill through regen). Towing. The difference is that the ICE truck starts with a 500+ mile range, so when it is hauling a heavy trailer and is getting 11 MPG, it will still go 250+ miles. One factor that I haven't noticed to have a big impact is temperature. Admittedly, the coldest weather my Lightning has seen was in the mid/high 20°s, but I don't see a dramatic reduction in range when it is cold (I do precondition the vehicle while it is still on the charger).
By the way, when I charge at home using the local utility's EV rate, I get the equivalent of 145 MPG.
To the video creator: Please stop with the "only use the Ford Mobile Charger in an emergency" crap. I use that charger on a 220v, 50 amp circuit and get 6+ kW per hour out of it. Your JuiceBox does not do one wit better.
I noted that using the factory charger plugged into the 120V should be for emergency only as it takes days to charge.
At no time did you qualify your crappy advice by drawing a distinction between the Ford charger’s performance on 110 V versus 220 V. Instead, you simply declared twice that it should only be used in emergencies. What a weasel…
Wow! Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill...lighten up!
Agreed...a lot of theoretical talk, without actual experience/knowledge. It's striking to read the anxiety/fear in these comments. I've had a standard range Lightning since February. It is my work truck for beekeeping--works for me. My longest daily loop is 120-130 miles. In the winter it gets about 220 miles of range, while in the summer, it gets 280-300 miles, based on my driving habits and use of 1-pedal. I have the bed loaded with beekeeping equipment, and the passenger cab with seats flipped up, loaded with filled honey supers (400-600 lbs). I haven't tried towing yet (need to do that), but the longest drive I would need to go to a beekeeping supply company is 160 miles, and there is a Tesla supercharger around Albany, so I can fill up there on the way up and way back, if/when needed. I guess everybody's experience is different. With experience driving the truck, I know what it can do and when I need to plan to charge, so I don't have the range anxiety that I'm hearing a lot on this page. I have charged from 120 volt with the Ford charger delivered with the vehicle up until now (obviously very slow on 120 volts); next week, I'm having an Emporia unit installed on a 240 volt circuit in the garage, so I won't need to go to a Tesla Supercharger station in Brewster NY for a quick fill-up any longer. Our solar panels were turned on this week, so pretty exciting to see the excess energy being put onto the grid after powering the house/batteries/vehicle. generated 80 kWh today, 45 kWh to the grid. Definitely a learning experience, but am feeling very comfortable.
I had the same results.
I hardly never drive my Pro over 65 mph , mostly 62 mph 90% of the time. (65 to pass only)
Good to see that others are enjoying over the rating miles as well.
How far do you think he would go if you use it as a real truck hauling something or caring some loads? That’s something nobody talks about and I’m really curious about it. I think that would be a great video.
Most reviewers say hauling causes very little range loss it is towing that seriously affects range the more aerodynamic the better the range
I saw a video about that and the guy went 144 miles towing a trailer he said weighed 5000lbs. It might have but it could have been a bit less. He then said a half hour charge would take him 100 miles but since the battery was nearly dead and he needed to go 144 miles I am not sure how useful that was going to be.
there has been many videos on it. it pretty much cuts the range in half.
I have the Ford charger but have connected to 240. And recharges fully overnight with 10% on truck. So really no need to buy additional equipment. But I did have an electrician setup the 240 outlet.
Great info. I was planning to pay for the extended range but now I think ill reserve the standard range and save about $10.000
Or save $30k and get a gasoline or diesel?
Tell me where you finding these $20,000 trucks genius.@@AndreAndFriends
How far in the winter or with a load in it need to be tested sa its alot shorter range
The EV haters are going to come for you.
That is not enough for our daily service truck fleet use when new, and certainly not enough when the battery has deteriorated a few months from now. I'll bet when you add 600 pounds of work gear and ladder rack to the load it is significantly reduced. I also bet that you were not in stop and go traffic for long periods or keeping up with traffic for many miles of the trip.
Thanks!
and dont forget that the battery will 100 percent absolutely degrade over time so the range will only go down..it will never go up
Did you have tailwind?
Not bad I guess. That means for me almost 400 km. How much share of the route was highway driving?
Thats about a half tank in my 3/4 ton.
How fast were you driving on average. My commute is 35miles one way and I drive 60mph
petty good for driving it empty , now put some load and compare, use it like a a truck
Hauling doesn't really effect my range. Towing it's nearly cut in half. But not unlike any other F150 that I've ever owned. 2014 V8 F150 , I was lucky to get 10/mpg. Towing was closer to 5/mpg. Most gas trucks mileage is cut in half doing any serious Towing.
I love the idea of the all electric vehicles. I just had to put that out there right away. But, I've always believed the target audience for the Lightning are people who, on a day to day basis, drive less than 100 miles a day. Before retiring my daily commute was 85 miles/day. Most people have a shorter commute than that. It's ideal for service vehicles, as long as you don't need to travel distances that would require a charge during the day. The one subject I don't hear people in the comments saying is; what do they drive, how far do they drive and what are their vehicle needs. In my case, my Ford Ecoboost is used for servicing my rental properties and when I want to get away I tow my travel trailer to the mountains. So, the Lightning won't work for me. The Powerboost is one option I have my eyes on because most of my day to day is in town driving.
For now, I think hybrids will provide most people with a more enjoyable driving experience. But, i see hybrids as stepping stones to the next generation of vehicles.
Great video and I look forward to seeing more of your experiences with the LIghtning. Thanks
Thanks for sharing, you might enjoy my latest video that addresses if the Lightning is the right truck for you or not: ruclips.net/video/XqftOIfv99I/видео.html
Gutsy range test in relatively ideal conditions. Appeared to be warm enough for A/C use but unknown if it was used. Of course battery life suffers when run down too low so it isn't recommended by manufacturers. And over time the battery loses capacity anyway so don't expect 245mile range over time. I would anticipate range anxiety with such a low max estimated range.
Did that trip take 9 hours to complete. If so that’s an average of 27 mph. You got some good mileage.
So unlike Tesla, the range is actually close to accurate?
For those coming to "roast" my comment: I owned a Tesla Model 3 SR+ which was rated for 240 miles of range. If I got 180 miles of range out of it on the highway, I'd be a happy camper. Unfortunately there's no regulation for EV's and their range estimates. But Tesla definitely needs some kind of reassessment on their real-world range. I'm glad to see Ford at least being accurate and from some research, I've seen Hyundai/Kia also providing accurate range estimates too.
Great feedback, thanks! The Lightning has exceeded my expectations so far. This is the first EV I have owned.
@@EV_Insider thanks. And don't let me get started on degradation. The battery on my Tesla was definitely degrading rapidly.
It got so bad, I live 80 miles from Universal Orlando and when I got the car I could make a round trip. But over time and the battery degrading, I literally had to charge after being at the parks for the day just to make it back home. I could not do a 160 mile roundtrip. That was with cabin overheat protection and other parked features disabled to conserve battery while parked.
That's crazy.
@@RobertoMezquiaJr One thing is that Tesla uses a different EPA test than most manufacturers. It tends to be a little more "optimistic". Here is a link....ruclips.net/video/b6Oel4klhjI/видео.html
@@EV_Insider Same here. I have had several prius hybrids gas/electric. Usually averaging 50 mpg.
Fantastic range. What was your average speed?
I was driving in all conditions around town and on the interstate over a couple of days. I wanted to see what the “real world driving” range would be.
For comparison, I've seen other tests with the ER battery where highway max range in good conditions at constant 70 MPH with ER battery is 270 miles. I would guess SR battery might be closer to 220 under those conditions. I'd say the ER battery is worth it, if you can afford the extra cost, as it better enables occasional highway trips. It's capable of everything but long range towing, where a combination of shorter range, insufficient chargers, and few if any pull through chargers make towing a PITA. Some nay sayers try to say it's useless because you can't tow a massive horse trailer across country, but that's a niche use case. For me, I tow around town and use truck beds plenty, and it meets all those needs. In the past year, I've hauled mulch, large gravel, pea gravel, multiple trips to the dump, equipment like compactors, I've pulled a dump trailer and a tow behind auger both around town. It does all those things just fine. Bed could be bigger, but people in general just love the huge back seats in F-150s that force a shorter bed, so that's the config you can get it in. That's not specifically an EV issue though.
You have some great efficiency (2.4-2.5m/kWh)! Any tips on how to maximize efficiency on the Lightning in your experience?
Burn it and blame it on the battery and get your money back.
Sell it and buy a real truck instead of an electric Tonka toy.
I would think a bed cover might give you more range.
Gee, you're getting a lot helpful hints. (sarc)
I'm considering a 2024 Lightning or the Powerboost. I need a truck to tow a hybrid trailer and two sleds about 2 hours away and back again. I'm learning towards the pb because of towing performance/cold issues with the Lightning. But not having to pay for gas is a huge bonus.
I would recommend the Powerboost. You are going to run into range issues if you are towing with the Lightning.
@@EV_Insider Yeah, the reason electric is so darn wanted is the cost of gas to get to said location, filling up two sleds with premium gas/oil...etc. lol. What was once a rather affordable hobby is becoming out of reach.
That's crazy. Doing 70 mph on the highway on an 800 mile road trip I just took. I averaged 1.7. I have the lariat extended range. I did have some wind against me in both directions on my trip.
How was the charging on your trip? How much time did it add to your overall drive?
@@EV_Insider not sure the overall time. EA stations worked good. We never had to wait but there were people waiting for us. Ev go in East st Louis was fast also. 165 tapering to 120's $.48. Went to a charger in Hannibal Mo that was 80-90 kwh speed the whole time. That sucked. $.48 per kWh was expensive I think.
It's a truck. Use it as trucks are intended, hauling and/or towing, and that range will likely be cut in half or even less. Then factor in effects of weather, extreme cold or heat can both reduce range. I'm still not onboard with EV's for every vehicle type. EV's may make sense for some purposes, small cars used for daily commutes, but in my opinion, not for all. The technology is still in its infancy, not up to the task for all vehicles for all purposes.
A truck is a vehicle like any other. It doesn't have to be "used as trucks are intended." I prefer to drive trucks, I'm 6'3 and like the extra space. I don't tow or haul anything ever and have never owned a car. A crew cab F150 nd similar trucks are the most versatile vehicles there are and are perfect for families whether they are used to tow or not.
Less than 10% of people tow with an f150 per ford’s data..then combine that with the fact that an EV truck ends up solving a ton of day to day practicality issues (bad gas mileage, sluggish acceleration, and no lockable storage) i would argue that an EV Pick up truck is actually the best application of battery technology!
Let's try again when the battery drops to 90% efficiency capacity and 80% and 70%, and the warranty covers 30% of battery replacement.
I'm afraid Ford has another Edsel.
It drops by 2/3 when hauling.
@@JheregCG60 ..... when brand new !
Please do that test again this time with either more passengers or more cargo. You ran that test under very ideal conditions. Warm weather, no cargo and what looked like a pretty sedate driving style. Will the F-150 lighting do that range under all conditions and all weather types?
Sean, I was driving in all types of conditions/speeds, interstate, highway and city. You might be interested in this video as well: ruclips.net/video/XqftOIfv99I/видео.html
@EV_Insider My friend used his heat and it got less than 170 miles true story he got stuck on the side of highway because he was one mile short of a charger. Truck got sold the following week.
@@JohnnyLightningV10 Electric cars have a long way to go before they are suitable for the general public and their every day needs. I don't know why all the governments around the world are pushing EVs so hard? They simply are not ready.
@@mydroneadventures8807 When a new technology comes along it's usually better than the thing it is replacing. EV cars don't meet that description. They have shorter range, take hours to recharge and are a serious fire risk. And finally, they are very expensive to buy and repair.
@@mydroneadventures8807 At least with a petrol or diesel car I don't have to worry about the car self igniting on my driveway or in my garage and burning the house down.
What was your average speed? That timer shows 9hrs. So this was an around town low speed test?
It was in all conditions around town, interstate going 80 and highway. I good all around test
Now all you need is the coming adaptor for SC network.
So you're on the freeway, the next charger is 50 miles away, no problem. You get there and the charger cables have been stolen for the copper value. Good luck.
Me personally, I cancelled my Lightning order. I have an F150. IMO a family needs vehicles to fill 3 needs- work/grocery getter, road trip, and hauler. One vehicle can fill more than one need. In the end, a Bolt EUV made more sense economically than a Lightning. I always thought the EUV was a goofy vehicle, a half-ass attempt, until I looked at the specs as far as legroom. It is a perfect grocery getter/work vehicle, and will be paid off quickly- purchase price $36k incl taxes, fees, etc not factoring in tax credit. For me, an ideal Lightning would have a standard cab, or extended cab, standard bed. It certainly is luxurious, and a smooth ride- but trucks are brick walls we drive as far as aerodynamics. For example, 2.5 mi/kwh is what the EUV would get if I drove like a teenager and broke every speed limit. A long distance trip to AL at 55-65mph yielded 3.8 mi/kwh, AC set at 74. A good trick I learned that I’ll pass along is not to use CC, and instead maintain kw output when climbing hills- lose 5-10 mph. Also, do not regenerate downhill, instead try to regenerate only enough to maintain 0-5 kwh usage downhill either maintaining speed or accelerating slightly. The CC will regen downhill, and push the vehicle to maintain speed uphill resulting in a net loss because you will use more to maintain speed uphill than you regen downhill. I use just enough regen downhill to cover climate and accessories, and I did make sure that I got back up to or over highway speeds before ascending the next hill. I was surprised at the 3.8 figure, expecting 3.5 or less. I’m sure this trick will work just as well for Lightnings. The Lightning, as it is made now, just doesn’t fit into a use case for me.
Great insight, thanks for sharing!
Are there even charging options in the wild? All I ever hear is people getting stranded in these 90k vehicles 😂
An electric vehicle seems like a big pain in the a$$.
I got the hybrid Maverick a few months ago and it’s a total joy. I’ve filled it up 4 times!
Was the test done on a downhill trip? With perfect weather? Of course it was. Try loading up the truck on a cold day and going on a slightly uphill trip. I bet you only get half the mileage you claim.
My 1985 dodge d 150 with the slant 6 and 4 speed manual. Can go 335 miles and takes 3 min to fill up. I paid 800 for it.. ehhh I use trucks for truck stuff. No ac but 800 bucks though…
Nice truck but no thanks. My 2016 Colorado Z71 is paid off and still looks and runs great. It has a 21 gallon tank giving it well over 400 miles of range unladen. With rebates and dealer discount I paid less than 34k for it. I have owned three F150s in past years, all gassers and all were affordable.
We have 5 of them at my office. Once you start towing the range decreases exponentially.
When towing it decreases the same percentage as a gas or diesel. I towed the same trailer in two SUVs one was EV and the other was ICE. Literally same percentage of decrease in range happened.
You are only scared because you have range anxiety. But the matter fact is you will have to stop as frequent in both cars. With gas you’ll fill up a little faster. In an EV you’ll pay about %25 of what you pay in gas so your trip will be a lot cheaper. And depending on the charging port and charger you might have to remove your trailer to charge “if you don’t want to take 3 spots to charge your car.
You pick your poison.
that's not bad! even if one smashing the accelerator and do 80 mph, this ford lighting may still get 190 miles, which is pretty good...but the biggest problem is electrify America charging is bogus! very little charging stations and often the chargers at the stations are broken. No problem though, sooon enough, Ford will adopt the Tesla charging plug and Tesla Super Charger will be open; that's when road tripping this Ford Lighting will become reality.
Agree. The charging infrastructure is a issue
Were you driving for 9 hours?
And it blows in the cold. Plus, just had mine towed last night because it won't move after a bunch of warnings and error codes.
Probably a battery issue, I'm considering trading for the Powerboost. Keep us posted on your repair.
@@EV_Insider funny, I had a Powerboost and traded in for a Lightning
Which do you like better now? Any issues with Powerboost?
@EV_Insider no issues with the powerboost. I like that I could get over 500 miles on a tank of gas. During warm weather, 23.5mpg. I like some aspects of the lighting, but there are downfalls and inconveniences to having an EV. I would never get the standard battery. Still no word on the repair yet
@EV_Insider still in the shop.....
NXT time shows us bi directional charging if you have one
I have a XLT with the standard battery on order. I mostly drive within 70 miles of my home between work and the city. I think the standard range will be just fine, and a good replacement for my Long Range Model 3.
2022 Lariat Lighting here. 220 miles is about the norm for mine. Driving mode was set to normal. Currently 60-75F but I'm curious how well it does in the winter. So far the truck is phenomenal
@Debbie Konkin Actually, I dock my boat and store it. Slip is cheap enough. Zero reason to tow a boat. How far are you towing a boat? 300 miles? How about 50-100 miles? It will get you there without issue..if your towing your boat more than how about just putting your boat in the water and just driving it to your destination via boat? You calling a vehicle garbage is plain ignorance and go-ahead, let it be bliss in your mind 🤣🤣.
100,000 dollars, then spend money on a charger 😒 to get 200 miles a charge ? Then, when battery goes bad ,what ? There's 40,000 more dollars ? + pay for electricity to charge ! Sounds super doable for most people ...Not !
Well for a standard f-150 theres a 23gal fuel tank,at 18mpg thats 414 miles,less towing obviously,but it can tow and still have more range,,,i'd say that adds up to a loosing proposition for the EV.
So you are about 200 miles of range at 80 percent and where you should be on driving range . Not much different from letting a gas tank go below a quarter tank before filling up .
So the way I see it is you have 200 miles of range which appears to be flat highway driving without the use of air conditioning or heat .
I think the mobile charger in 240 volt mode is useable so if your on a trip and get a Airbnb you would like to have a 240 outlet available . It can be dedicated or maybe a electric dryer outlet is available in the garage . So you could take a 400 mile trip and only have to charge once and to me that's a best case scenario
Great comments.
For a general rule of thumb I usually tell people you can drive (in a variety of conditions) around 190 miles without any worries. For around town, that typically means several days between charges.
@@EV_Insider My daily drives seldom exceed 60 miles & I usually plug in when I get home. Only charge to 85% platinum so it's a little heavier. On average I can drive 100 miles for about $4. So towing range is nearly cut in half so $4/50 miles. Still much better than any previous F150's that I've owned.
@Debbie Konkin Poor Debbie has a thing against EV's. Won't do what you want wa wa wa 😭😭. How do you think tech improves? Well guess tech has to start somewhere..
@@debbiekonkin5768 Don't care. I'm an electrical engineer and an electrician. We have a completely off grid system and we can charge the truck as much as needed cost free. Joke's on you..
It appears that you may have overlooked a few important aspects. Allow me to provide some perspective. Yes, I am indeed producing my own power through solar panels and batteries. It's a remarkable way to generate electricity off the grid, and this practice is followed in numerous countries worldwide.
However, let's not forget to consider the broader context. I bet you live in a structure with walls. Well, those walls are likely constructed using materials obtained from trees that were cut down and all sorts of "garbage." It's essential to acknowledge the environmental impact associated with the construction of any dwelling.
Furthermore, let's not overlook the fact that the very device you are using to communicate contains components that contribute to waste, including batteries. It's easy to criticize others, but it's important to recognize that our devices, including yours, have ecological implications.
Regarding your mention of speed boats, it's true that burning oil and gas in these vessels can harm our oceans, just like any other boat owner. Therefore, rather than adopting a holier-than-thou attitude, it's crucial for all of us to understand that we each play a role in addressing environmental concerns.
Before assuming a self-righteous position and placing blame solely on others, it's worth taking a moment to reflect on our own actions. We are all contributing factors to the challenges we face. Without our devices, we wouldn't even have the opportunity to watch online videos.
You have a serious problem with EVs and that's fine and I hope you understand in your previous correspondences your very words are contradicting. You call the truck garbage because it can't tow a boat to a distance you want so either A you have the vehicle and are unhappy with it or B you are trolling the net looking to complain..it's okay, I understand it makes you feel good. No problem. You may want to change your name to Karen though and please for heavensake take the battery out of car it must be "garbage" 🤣
So what you are saying is if I wanted to drive from LA to Atlanta it will take me 10 days to do it. Definitely not a touring vehicle. I'm sure it's great for a grocery getter. And an expensive one at that.
This wouldn't be the best EV for highway road tripping, but it's nowhere near as bad as you suggest. LA-Atlanta = about 2,200 miles. 32 hours of driving at 70 mph + 12 charging stops at 40 minutes each = about 41 hour trip. That's about 8.5 hours worth of stops. Most ICE vehicles would accumulate about 4 hours worth of fuel and bathroom breaks on such a trip, so it would add about 4-5 hours to such a road trip to do with an EV.
Drive it in Minnesota in the winter, and see how quickly you can get to the dealership to trade it in. These trucks are near-worthless.
They make for a spectacular bonfire though I hear, that was a while back one burst into flames in an oilfield equipment parking lot taking with it some very expensive oilfield equipment, I bet they were impressed.
@@debbiekonkin5768 That is quite something its said when one of those EV's catches on fire, its quite the challenge for firefighters to put one out with tons of water due to that chemical reaction taking place within the battery. In fact it says its typical for an average vehicle to require 1000 gallons of water to put out, where as an EV will require 40000 gallons. What fire truck carries that volume of water ... well none of course, not even remotely. Also these EV vehicles are a potential danger for hours after a collision of going into self combusting mode, its scary stuff. One things for sure, anyone inside of an EV when its burning will certainly have a complete cremation !.
It would have went about another 50 miles past 0. Ford leaves a lot of battery left for emergency use.
" take your foot off the gas ? What ? Lol
If you did Highway only at 75 mph, you may 200 miles!
Great, now do that in a real-life situation, meaning load it full of gear, tools, people, etc. Then test your range.
Most pickups I see in the rural area where I live have empty beds (sometimes a silver tool box), no trailer, and one person- the driver.
@@brucefarber9875 That's like saying most cars you see on the road hardly have passengers in the back seat. What people want to know is how they operate in "truck" situations, just because you aren't loaded down all the time it doesn't mean it's not important to know it's capabilities.
So- I guess if you live in an apartment u don't get an ev ?? I own a 2022 powerboost hybrid, non plug in,get 23 mpg combined city/highway and 650 miles per tank. Oh, and it cost 15k less than the lightning. think I'll keep that one, oh and it tows 12000 lbs. 430 hp. 560 foot-pounds.
How's it do when you use it as a truck? Hook the Bayliner on the back. Or couple off road bikes in the bed.
Or get the family on board.
Not trying to be rude but its a truck..
Nice video by the way
I have lariat with extended battery should have bought standard range 😮
I would've been happy with a standard range battery. I seldom drive more than 60 miles a day.
That gets little more than half my jeep wrangler jk with 35 inch tires, towing 3k gets on a full tank. If I'm spending that kind of money on a truck, and I can't use it for it's entire point for existence then what is the point. Electric trucks great for show in the city, incapable of work anywhere else.
EV's are not for everyone, you have to be ok with the limits of them. The comparison to gas trucks is like apples to oranges.
@@EV_Insider I agree with “EV’s are not for everyone.” Well of course they’re not, it’s a new issue that is having direct legislative affect and impact. It’s both effectively being forced upon everyone from the average person to entire companies.
Additionally, no, gas vehicles and electric vehicles are a direct comparison. The directly compete with one another and electric vehicles are being made to take over the markets that has gas vehicles currently hold. In fact it’s EV manufacturers that make the comparisons themselves, it’s the media that shuts down any criticism, so yes it’s apples to apples. If you’re being made to replace something, you should be better in every way. Not, reduce longevity, distance, rate of refuel, and throw a bunch of unrepairable, unreliable electronics for the sake of being gimmicks. Just to tell consumers that either they buy this now or someday down the road that choice will be made for them.
I do believe they make great Sedans and sport cars, and some decent SUVs. Then that’s about where that ends, they’re not great at everything, they’re not greener for the environment. They shouldn’t be influencing legislation to forcibly shutdown the production gas vehicles. However, that’s what they’re being used for, filling the pockets of politicians and the wealthy and hurting everyone else in their greed.
I conceptually love EV, but, I hate the message that their manufacturers, the media, and politicians are promoting with them.
@@jbirdzz I agree with most of what you're saying here , especially about forcing EV'S on everyone. I don't believe there is a real danger of that happening in the near future, even though they say it will. California is an excellent example of this, all the while limiting the use of electricity during peak hours. I own a lightning and it's perfect for me, I traded in my car & truck for it. Retired 73, I have no desire to travel anymore after 30 years with the FAA. I'm glad there are so many people that EV'S don't fit their lifestyles. If we were flooded with EV'S as they want, there is no doubt that our electrical grid will not handle them. Myself, I have a 13 kw solar system which even on cloudy days supply enough power for my home and charge my solar batteries. And if that fails I have 2 - 11 kw generac generators that run off a 1000 gallon propane tank. And then I have my lightning that can supply a total of 9600 watts of power from a 131 kwh battery. I've owned a lot of F150's so when ford came out with this truck, it was a dream come true in every way. Truck, luxury car and a vehicle that will do 0 - 60 in just over 4 seconds. Who could as for more.
@@jbirdzz Well put. If your going out to the boonies, buy a 8 kw genset, adaptor and half a dozen 5 gal fuel jugs.Then you can fuel up your genset, plug in your charger, and voila! In only 10 hpurs your'hybrid' can go another 240 miles in only 14 hours!
If your towing an rv, cut your range in half.
WHATABOUT to load this truck with something? Its a truck right ??? 👀
Ah I know 180th and Dodge when I see it
I believe many of these "EV's aren't ready yet" comments come from a position of ignorance. All I keep reading are the exceptions (towing and wanting 400+ miles). Honestly, how often do you tow or drive more than 200+ miles in a single day? If you answer "all the time" then YOU are the exception and shouldn't place your bias on an entire class of very capable vehicles. I'll bet the house most negative EV commenters have NEVER actually drove one. Are EVs right for everyone?...definitely not. Are EV's a good alternative for the majority of commuters?...absolutely!
We agree and have stated many times that EV"s are not right for everyone. I traded in my 2017 F-150 for the Lightning and would not switch back to a ICE truck. The Lightning is a far superior driving experience. The only downfall is range and for the times we take a long road trip we use our 2nd vehicle, which is a Kia Telluride. Now that Ford is partnering with Telsa on access to their chargers, that only helps.
If this is evolution Spring Vallet WHY did people let it get to this after trauma and why did 2017 have to be so abomidable
The range is limited if you put a load on it which kind of makes it useless as a truck!
And with Unlimited Range but just Google F150 UNLIMITED RANGE
What kind of speeds were you running? What happens if you're cruising at 85? My three decade old Gen 1 still has all the original instrumentation that is fully functional. Who thinks those screens in the new truck will last 30 years? Who thinks Ford will even offer a replacement part after 15 years if they do break? The Gen 1 Lightning has an unmistakable sound and that's just part of the fun. The Gen 2 is faster but I just never liked the 5.4. Turns out overhead cams aren't necessary for a good truck.
Grossly overpriced, too short a range, too long to charge.
I can go 475 miles on 16 gallons of unleaded. Just saying. EVs have a bit more progress to make before I'd consider buying one. Oh and gas stations are everywhere, and I can fill up in less than 10 minutes.
My truck gets like 400 miles too with like 300 miles towing over 10k lol.
You’re definitely not driving a full size truck with the 30 mpg you get, but we all understand what you’re saying. EV’s are just starting, wait a few years. Oh, ICE vehicles started 100 years ago, and we’re still at trucks that get 12 mpg.
@@debbiekonkin5768 You’re information is not complete or current, it’s understandable that you believe the break even point you’re using. Update your knowledge, you’ll see there’s a vast difference with reality and your interpretation of fact. By the way, the initial point was comparing full size pickup mileage, then you respond about a Maverick, wow.
@@debbiekonkin5768 Society has evolved to where we are because humans invent things to make life better, people like you are what’s holding back our future.
@@dominiquejeannin4510Forcing people by law to drive giant heavy batteries with limited range is not the future
To me, it's a $$100K novelty vehicle at this point!!! Why buy a truck if you're going to drive it like a Camry?
150 to the game 150 back so it won't work for me. I gotta get back not hang around college towns
I’ll take my petro F150 any day
I can fill up my ice truck and drive for 400+
Like everybody wants battery anziety
Just invest in long extension cords.
How far can the ev go.... it can go straight to bankruptcy!
Here in Canada....winter condition ,,,you have 120 miles of range....this is why Ford Lighning is not seiling......never see one so far
120 mile range would work well for me. My daily trips are seldom over 60 miles.
Yup in case of an emergency I gotta charge it up and wait four days and I hope my emergency waits for me
LOL @ 3:14, let off the *GAS* on his electric truck, old habits die slowly.
Yeah, On related topic, how many people say "Are you filming?" instead of 'Are you recording?" "Film" is developed. Like you say... old habits.
Get to the point.
5:50
Just what I want, a truck I can't use for 10 hours because it's battery is dead. Do a real test. Put a boat or loaded trailer behind it and see how far you get before the battery is dead. My truck hauls stuff and pulls a boat to the lake and back. I don't have to worry about running out of fuel. Also, you might want to talk about what actually happens when a lithium battery is produced, the manufacturing process's effect on the environment and the people who mine the raw materials.
This is not the truck for you if you can't charge it overnight at home. And definitely not a truck that I would have bought, if I ever had to use a public charger.
try it when it's cold outside with a realistic load in the bed. that's why people aren't buying it
I stopped my order on this ford lightning because i have noticed the dealership kept subtracting stuff i wanted on my truck. So i tell anyone who orders this truck from the dealership dont bother because they wont give u what u want. Ill take my business elsewhere.
I ordered mine directly through the Ford website, didn’t have any issues.
If your just going to drive around like your in a car use it as a truck it sucks
Enjoy your Ford. I will never ever.....ever pay 100K for a Ford. Period.........!!!!! I don't tust its craftsmanship and quality of engineering. Never did, never will.
$100k ???? The Lightning XLT was $62k same price as a gas F-150 XLT
@@EV_Insider I wish you many miles of smile, I really do !!!! 👍
Ok . . . just great . . . 245 miles and you now need to park it for a minimum of 10 hours on a level 2 charger . . .
Just lovely . . . I can fill up my gas SYV in 5 minutes and good for at least 300 miles.
I hate EVs. I drive a lot for work and I will never buy a vehicle where I have to totally reorganize my entire life
and clients' scheduled visits around the charging cycle and requirements of my vehicle.
ON TOP OF THAT . . . IT IS A TRUCK!!!
Put some weight in the box and/or tow even a small trailer and you can literally cut your range in HALF!
That's what great about having choices, you don't have to buy a EV. They are not the right solutions for all people! I traded in a 2017 F-150 for the Lighting and wouldn't to back to a ICE after making the change.
@@EV_Insider We have choices . . . for now. Some states are trying to legislate zero sales of ICE vehicles by a given date.
This is insanity.
Joe Biden says just buy 2 or 3 of them.
Put a boat or utility trailer behind it and turn on the heater for a while and see how it does. Novelty vehicle as built. Might as well drive a Prius with a roof rack.
EV'S certainly not for everyone. But definitely the best F150 that I've ever owned. No more maintenance and averaging $4/100 miles. My last F150 was a 2014 which was lucky to get 10/mpg.
Very unimpressed. Possibly the most useless vehicle I have ever seen in modern times, a truck that can't tow anything at all and would take 5 full charges to get from my house to my time share. Wow what an advancement. All for the low low price price of $75000. Nop wonder they can't sell them, not even at auction.
This is great range for. A golf cart lol
I work with my trucks I need a V8 need to tow 5000 pounds or more
I think trucks need a engine