Israelis: What is the alternative to the two state solution?
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@5:24 A Palestinan refugee here said thank you :) just the admitting and the willingness to accept us is very great amoung this dispair , my tears are held in my eyes. I say to you Maraha or mur huban 'pass love ' and Shaloum !
she is a israeility women i think
The israeli argument of saying " there are 22 arab countries they can go wherever?!!" it's like kicking out the Serbs from their country and saying " there are many Slavic countries" or kicking out the Canadians of Québec and saying " there are too many Francophone countries , they can live outside Canada ?!!!!!!!.....Arab countries might share the language (with too diffrent dialects) and religion (kind of) and certanly have some similarities BUT THEY ARE SO DIFFERENT CULTURALLY!! for exemple Tunisia is very diffrent from Yemen, Lebanon is very diffrent from Sudan , Syria is very diffrent from Mauritania !!!!!!!!! this is a false argument !
Right this is the homeland of the christian, muslim or jew Palestians who have ever lived there as theirs grand-parents.
ahmed fathallah True, and I as an Israeli Jew (zionist) am opposed to the idea of deporting them to Arab countries. But in terms of "culturally" - you should watch the video asking Palestinians how are they different to specifically 'Jordanians, Syrians, Lebanese'. You know what their answer was? They said ZERO difference, we are one people. Bilad al Sham.
interestingyoutubechannel Palestinians resemble to Syrians /Lebanese and Jordanians because it was one common land before Sykes pico (Biled al -Sham = the land of the Levant or great Syria) so they share the same traditions ...etc , i'm Arab and i can not even distinguish between Syrian or Lebanese nor Palestinian to Jordanian when they speak Arabic .However, they have some differences with Golfi Arabs, North Africans, and Horn Africans (Somalia and Djibouti) !!
@@ahmedfathallah2305 Oh yeah, this I know, of course! Very different to Gulf Arabs, Maghrebis etc. That's what I'm saying though, that Palestinian Arab nationalism politics, if genuinely only striving for independence as a cultural group, could have aimed for a region in Syria, or Lebanon, or Jordan. But when the west bank was part of Jordan, silence. Only when the Jews are breathing the same air as them, they want to kill us & take over the land. Why these nationalists not just leave us alone & have independence elsewhere in Bilad al Sham?
That aside, Palestinian Arab Israelis, as well as Bedouin & Druze etc., live with us in true coexistence, which as an Israeli I am proud of. It's only the nationalist crazies that are a problem.
interestingyoutubechannel well, the conflict is so multifactorial (history, geography, geopolitics, religion. ..etc) . the problem is each one deny the otherpart's perspective and not ready to compromise anything; the zionist deny the existence of Palestinians and Palestine and want them to leave the country : to Jordan and consider themselves the owners of the land without Palestinians , while Palestinians consider Israeli as invaders came to this land based on crazy movement as a result of the Haulocust and they resonate :"it's not our fault to get them here if they had a European Holocaust, why "WE" should pay the taxes for their tragedy " . The problem is that you have one land for two different nations and everyone want to control it !! and i think both of u are wrong on dealing with the other side when there is no real and serious negociations !! because violence stimulate newly violence : Palestinians are dying and Israelis living in fear !
I applaud you for your candid and straightforward questions, I applaud the Israeli who expressed their desire for peace and no matter how timid some are, I personally consider it very positive.
At this stage of despair, I would celebrate any wise voice and I am willing to consider only that.
Thank you once again.
There should be a mix between a two state and one state solution. Two autonomous territories that largely manage their own affairs, called Israel and Palestine, within a common confederation. The confederation has open borders, common infrastructure, military and economic development policies. Each territory gets a veto at the confederation parliament in order to prevent tyranny of the majority.
A Levantine Belgium! Hard to see it actually working. But then, hard to see anything working, so why not.
As an Israeli I thought the same thing. It sounds like a good idea, but I don't think it will happen anytime soon.
For us a lot of extremist and settlers will be opposed to it.
For them they'll refuse any agreement since they never want to even negotiate or recognize Israel.
If such a thing is to happen it would require a lot of time, promises of none aggression and education that I don't see happening any time soon ESPECIALLY NOW. Hamas has to go for any peace to happen at all.
@@teddyGros But Hamas has to "go" in a way that doesn't lead to it being replaced with something worse. Which is exactly the "gonna inflict intergenerational trauma on 'em" Netanyahu 'plan'.
@@teddyGros "They" haven't always refused to negotiate with Israel. And "they" have recognised it, in the form of the PLO and the PNA explicitly doing so.
But broadly speaking, I think you're right. In the short and medium term, the hardliners on *both* sides are only going to get harder, stronger, and more entrenched.
Especially depending on how Hamas is made to "go away". The means used risk it being replaced by something *even worse*. And don't be too quick to say that's impossible.
This was the original UN plan back in 1947. It was probably in acknowledgment that the borders they voted for were never viable for two completely separate states. We have already seen how well the confederation idea worked back then. The animosity between Palestinian Arabs and Jews is even greater now. It is completely inconceivable, for example, to think that there could be common military.
Jews smart people and i admire them alot
I am aquainted with many honorable Arabs.
@@qayn7617 they read the same comments over and over on youtube and regurgitate them as their own but really have nothing to back it up. What's being alluded to, is every other group that's suffered is a "victim", but Jews are rightfully hated. Nice name btw lol
LOL you should consider changing your name bruh. You're such a disgrace
@@ayadweik1 i have the best religion in the world wich is islam i believe Judaism in the quran says jews changed their religion
@Fady Al Qaisy black people have suffered throu out the history
@corey ASK West Bank Palestinians how they feel about Hamas In Gaza. 🇵🇸🇮🇱
great question!!👍😀
@Mor A just proves how bad the situation is, without Hamas Gaza could become much more wealthy, instead investing in military and bombs they could invest the money we give them ( and we will give more if they use it right ) to build hospitals, open more jobs, improve housing and many more
Ask. them also who created Hamas :)
I the same way how the Jews in Israel and the Evangelicals in Texas feel about Netanyahu and his right-wing Likud "liberal" party
This can’t happen if anyone will talk against Hamas they will be dead the next day they don’t have freedom of speech so good question but not realistic
Equal rights under the law would go a long way to solve this conflict..
The Arabs want Sharia Law, not a democracy!!
the guy at 2:26 made me lose faith in humanity
the Belgian gentleman in 7:17 is very wise and balanced. He should be a politician or work for UN
ahahahahahahahahaha no one is balanced in Israel. Look who they voted for last week.
Dude i was about to write the exact same coment !
@@matiasbrachini8741 yeah, at least voted for man...
and still the opposition in the knesset has some possibilities.
He's not Belgian, he's Israeli.
He has family in Belgium.
@Ashkenazi Dissident Right
I went to Brooklyn College, which is part of the City University of New York. In the early 1990s, Finkelstein was an adjunct professor in the political sciences faculty. I took one of his courses, on political philosophy or something like that. The good thing about his course is that he did assign the classic texts, Locke, Hobbes,Hume, Rousseau, etc., and he demanded that we write essays on them, but he occasionally went into off-topic rants about Israel and the Palestinians. I'm sure he doesn't remember me, even when I was in his class. I was one of perhaps a few dozen students in that section and I stayed quiet. But he was also very active in anti-Israel rallies on campus.
Illegal settlements made 2 state solutions impossible, the only alternative is the continuation of occupation or having a single Jewish apartheid south Africa like state.
A conundrum was brought to Israel by the settlements.
There are NO illegal settlements. All communities are in Area C, fully under Israeli government and security by mutual agreement under the Oslo Accords.
The land was NEVER Palestinian land in all of history. The land in the West Bank is either Israeli land or Disputed Territories, not Palestinian.
Under 3 International laws, the land of the West Bank belongs to Israel.
1) Uti Possidetis Juris
2) Jordan Israeli peace agreement, ceding all land West of the Jordan River to Israel, with the Jordan River as the border.
3) Oslo Agreements, Area A,B, and C
How can these people do to Palestinian exactly what the European world did to them
What exactly did the Europeans do to them?
Violence begets violence, unfortunately.
They are psychopaths
Annexation of Judea and Samaria to start.
@C caymer I assume all citizens will be able to vote. As a rule the turn out for voting in the Arab sector is poor.
@C caymer Jews in Europe for centuries couldn't be citizens own land participate in society hold public office participate in certain professions learn in university etc. All these things are available to Arabs.
I think the Arabs have it very good in Israel and in return we get terrorism of all kinds. If it is decided they will have the privilege of the vote I am sure they will not appreciate it.
@Starhopper No decision has been made in either case.
Seek for Dr. Keidar's solution.
You see, if you do that you will regret it dearly
The guy in @2:25 is the most true and genuine israeli, he's not pretending, all he is doing is showing the true face of most of the peace loving and warm people of israel.
Just throw them out anywhere reminds me of a similar situation not long ago.
There has never been such a country called palestine.
fun fact Palestinians didn't refer to themselves as Palestinians until 1964
that fact is irrelevant, the relevant one is the people who lived there have they ben treated fairly??
for example consider the UN resolution, giving Arabs 31% of the mostly *unfertile* land while making 2/3 of the population and had owned 92%, after zionest has seen this plan they acted upon it, war, into ethnic cleansing
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what makes a country a neutral video:
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my amounts are not all accurate since my source is old give or take a couple of percentages:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine
@@ashrafalsaadoon6120 as i said its an irrelevant fact.
There were multiple Jewish kingdoms before. Also the Jews were offered the most fertile land because they made it fertile. It was a wasteland before.
@@warpedcomedy how could they fertile 50% the lad if they only owned 8%, please know basic fact before you make up your mind and follow an ideology, you looked like a fool
I think the only solution would be if Israel decided to integrate all the palestinians into the state of Israel.
Creating a dual state with both people having equal rights with ZERO tolerance for any type of terrorism or violence from either side.
This would involve a period of 5-15 difficult years but the new generation would grow up in this type of environment.
The issue is is that most palestinians want the ENTIRE country to themselves, and so do many Israelis.
That's literally insane. Islam will just destroy it like everything else it touches.
@Starhopper No, equal rights. Anyone who disagrees get kicked out of the country
You do not sound Israeli, as I'm sorry to say but your view is naive and idealistic. Of course that would be nice kn a perfect world but, arabs that grew up generation after generation with familial education to hate jews and Israel will never integrate into Israeli society. Nothing would have changed, except the ease in which they would carry out attacks on us or even the ease in which Israelis can oppress them. If only it were that simple, I'm sure we'd all jump at the opportunity
@@ojc8902 I am israeli. I know this isn't a realistic option that would ever happen. But, it's the most normalest idea...that it will take years to change their brainwashing
That could be offered but the problem with that idea is it may well be rejected because most Palestinians would seem to want a state of their own. So you have basically two options: two states, or one state that encompasses a binational arrangement (Israel-Palestine). A unitary state would need to be secular or at least co-religious and that seems highly unlikely at this stage.
This question assumes that Hamas is gone. The reality is Hamas insist to be part of the Palestinians; in fact they represent the Palestinians.
שאלה מעניינת תשאל פעם ערבים ישראלים שבמידה ויקימו מדינה פלסטינית האם הם יעברו לשם או שהם יעדיפו להישאר בישראל?
תשלח לו את השאלה באימייל
a great question!! 👍🏽😀
אני שמעתי מאיזה עיתונאי ערבי ששאל את זה, שאם מכוונים אליהם מצלמה אז הם בד"כ אומרים שכן, אך בפועל רובם לא יעברו באמת, ובסקרים אנונימיים הם יודו בכך
wow that is a really great question, I am an Israeli Arab and would love to hear this question in the channel.
My answer is no, because why would I leave the home I was born in for you? does it make sense for you to leave your place for me? No so why does it have to make sense for me to leave my place for you? This is where O lived all my life and here is my home and my place 😐
@@mayar6463 אנחנו צריכים לחיות ביחד, וללמוד לכבד אחד את השני. זה יקרה רק אם שני הצדדים ילמדו לכבד. ונכון להיום זה לא קורה לא בצד היהודי ולא בצד הפלסטיני. אני לא רוצה שתעזוב את הבית שלך, אני רוצה להיות שכן שלך. אבל עם זה אני רוצה שכן טוב שיכבד גם אותי. ויקבל את זה שאני חושב אחרת ממנו. ולא יקרא לי כופר או רוצח נביאים
How they can have 2 states if there is so many seatlers in west Bank!! Explain me????
the settlers will have to go.
@@prynner I don't think so.. They will go all
Hmmm ain't that inconvenient... Oh well must be Jewish land now let's just give them ramallah and make "peace". Yay peace!
WOW, the guy on 2:24... Pure fascist!
He's disgusting. Talking about people like a garbage
jewish nazi
Nah I think he’s a good guy he speak facts ! The only solution is for the West Bank to go back to Jordan and Gaza go back to Egypt ! He speak facts ! Long live Israel 🇮🇱❤️🇮🇱❤️
I like your videos for not being biased keep up the good work !!
So why exactly would the solution be dead? Why can't Israel retract to the 1967 borders and stop shifting the borders with colonies? Have a border and don't move it. Respect your neighbor and their sovereignty. Most countries in the world manage to do this. Why can't Israel?
@Erik Rabe Røstad Kvetching before it even happens. Crying in pain as you strike.
You are the ones murdering these people and taking their homes. They have nothing. You leech $3.8 billion from USA a year for this asymmetrical colonization against them.
And, yeah no.
We won wars for that land, so that land is ours, it's not a very hard concept to understand.
@@lad7436
I can only imagine the kvetching and under-handed trickery you would employ if the same happened to you. You actually never really fight wars in the way you imply. "Warfare through deception" is all you know.
The real reason you haven't been wiped off the map is that you have USA backing you up and 300+ nukes you have threatened to launch all over Europe if necessary.
I'm sure you like to think you've won wars on your own. Yet you bothered trying to frame Egypt by attacking USS Liberty. And how about those five dancing Mossad agents at the time of the attack on WTC? You've always put or tried to put the American soldier to fight for Greater Israel.
You almost always have someone else do the dirty work. Unless, of course, it's about knocking some kid over the head with the butt of your rifle for throwing rocks at your billion dollar equipment you have because of your parasitic foreign aid received from USA. When it comes to making life hell for the civilians whose lands you steal, you're very efficient. You're fooling no one but yourself when you parade as if you've won wars.
What you have done over the years - all the operations, all the lies, the murders, the extortion, the misdirection..you will inevitably find it in front of you sooner or later. You're used to thinking there's no such thing as consequences for your actions, as you worship yourself and money.
@@lad7436"We fought wars for that, so the losers should be quiet and peaceful about it."
Of course, trouble is many nationalities fought and won wars for it -- the Caanites, the ancient Israelites, the Romans, the Arabs, the Ottomans, the modern European Jewish settlers-- and it can't be all theirs.
palestinians had gaza. that didnt work. I dont have an answer. what is going on in the west bank? doesnt the plo have that? what are they doing with their land?
I must agree with the man saying that west bank should go to jordan and gaza to egypt, it is apparently only solution that can work with palestinians for lasting peace.
From hindsight, it was strategical error from Israel to take control of that territory after the war for a while.
Corey, the statistics you presented in the beginning are deceptive, as Danny explained to you halfway through the video. The Palestinians have a different definition of two states, so the statistics are really comparing answers to 2 different questions. Each one is responding to a solution that is unacceptable to the other side.
*---* *THE FACTS ABOUT THE SO-CALLED PALESTINIANS* *---*
There has never been such a country called Palestine. Israel was re-formed on land previously ruled by the Ottoman empire, similarly to other countries in the region such as Lebanon, Iraq and others. There is no such thing as "Palestinian people". It's worth noting that newspapers such as the 'Palestine post' were Jewish newspapers (this one for example turned into the 'Jerusalem post'). This is also true about other official "Palestine" related stuff from the time before Israel was re-formed. Hebrews were the majority in Jerusalem even before the birth of the Zionist movement in the 19th century. If someone happened to use the term "Palestine" before the re-formation of Israel, he was referring to the homeland of the Jevvs (the land of Israel) - not the Arabs. It's worth noting that the flag of the "Palestinian Authority" is the flag of Hejaz.
The British Mandate over the land, after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, actually included also what is now Jordan (which includes the "east bank" - part of historic Israel), and according to the League of Nations (precursor of the UN), this Mandate was to become a national homeland for the Jevvs (the Arabs would get their own independent lands in all the rest of the greater middle-east, an area which makes the land of Israel insignificant in comparison). Note that according to the UN's constitution, all the past resolutions of the League of Nation are valid.
The British Authorities, due to their own interests with the Arabs (among others - future oil dealings), gave them 77% of the land - which later became what is now Jordan. There are over 20 Arab countries, and almost 60 lsIamic countries - each on average way bigger than Israel, but the Arabs couldn't tolerate the existence of tiny Israel, even after being given most of the land of the mandate. Instead, they tried to annihilate it by force with the Arab armies the moment it was officially independent (and have attempted to do so several times again since then).
The coIoniaI term "Palestine" was discarded after it was brought to life under the British rule, as it should have been, because the original name for the land - Israel, has been restored (Israel is not Palestine, just like Jerusalem is not Aelia-Capitolina, and Schehem is not Nablus).
It is only in the mid 1960's that the Arabs hijacked the term, and its widespread usage only took off after the 1967 Arab-Israeli war. The Arabs used this terminology as a political propaganda tool to de-legitimize Israel, after they failed to steal the Hebrew homeland by force with the Arab armies, by invading and attempting to conquer the land. Ironically, the term "Palestinian" originate from the term 'Pleshet' to describe INVADERS by the Hebrews. Those who willingly identify as "Palestinians" are declaring themselves to be invaders/colonizers in Hebrew land.
It's important to note that this propaganda tool was supported by the Communists/Soviets. On the other hand, just a few decades before that, the Arab "Palestinians" were hand in hand with the Nazis. They have aided them under the leadership of the mufti Amin Al-Husseini - who is often regarded as the 'founding father' of the Arab "Palestinians". During WW2 he became an SS general, but he had anti-Jewish genocidal ideology long before the Nazis rose the power. He has incited and caused violence and terror against the Jewish people in their homeland since the early 1920's (for example: 1929 Hebron massacre).
"Palestinians" are nothing more than bands of foreign invaders, squatters and illegal immigrants from all over the Islamic world - mostly the Arab world (some of them even originating from places that are not part of the middle-east, such as Bosnia), as well as several other places. The overwhelming majority of them first settled in the land of Israel in recent centuries - mostly in the 19th and 20th centuries. Some of them even came to Gaza, Judea and Samaria from Egypt and Jordan while these areas were under Egyptian and Jordanian occupation in the period between 1948 to 1967.
Informative quotes from Arab "Palestinian" leaders:
"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' was invented by the Zionists. There is no Palestine in the bible ...Palestine is ALIEN to us" - Arab "Palestinian" leader Awni Abdul Hadi, Peel Commission, 1937.
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity... Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan." - Arab "Palestinian" leader & PLO member Zuheir Mohsen, 1977.
"I don’t think there is 'Palestinian People', I don’t think there is a 'Palestinian Nation' at all… 'Palestinian Nation'? I think that is a colonial invention. When were there ever 'Palestinians'?" - Arab "Palestinian" leader Azme Bishara, TV Interview.
"We all have Arab roots, and every Palestinian in Gaza and throughout Palestine can prove his Arab roots - whether from Saudi Arabia, Yemen or anywhere else." "... Half the Palestinians are (Arab) Egyptians and the other half are (Arab) Saudis" - Arab "Palestinian" Hamas minister Fathi Hammad, 2012.
Here are some common "Palestinian" families and their place of origin:
Saudi, Al-Husseini, Al-Hassan, Hijazi, Tamimi, Erekat, Barghouti, Qureshi, Badawi - Saudi Arabia
Yamani, Azad - Yemen
Haddadins - Yemen (Ghassanids)
Masri, Masrawa, Tartir, Bardawil, Fayumi - Egypt
Abu Kishk, Shakirat, Zabidat, Aramsha, Abu Sitta, Abu Sutta, Shaalan - Egypt (Bedouins)
Turki, Sultan, Uthuman - Turkey
Iraqi, Baghdadi, Faruqi, Tachriti, Zoabi, Abbas - Iraq
Nashashibi, Hurani, Allawi, Halabi - Syria
Lubnani, Tarabulsi, Sidawi, Surani - Lebanon
Bushnak - Bosnia
Khamis - Bahrain
Afghani - Afghanistan
Mughrabi - Maghreb
Araj - Morocco
Djazair - Algeria
Kurd - Kurdistan
Hindi - Indian Subcontinent
Abid - Sudan
Yasser Arafat, the most famous "Palestinian" and leader of the PLO terrorist organization, was not native to Judea. He called himself a "Palestinian refugee" but spoke Arabic with an Egyptian accent. He was born in 1929 Cairo, Egypt. He served in the Egyptian army, studied in the University of Cairo, and lived in Cairo until 1956! His full name was Mohammed Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat Al-Qudwa Al-Husseini.
Yasser Arafat also proudly stated in his authorized biography that: "If there is any such thing as a Palestinian people, it is I, Yasser Arafat, who created them."
Genetic data for "Palestinians":
According to a 2010 study by Behar et al. Palestinians tested clustered genetically close to Bedouins, Jordanians and Saudi Arabians which was described as "consistent with a common origin in the Arabian Peninsula".
A study found that the Palestinians, have what appears to be Female-Mediated gene flow in the form of Maternal DNA Haplogroups from Sub-Saharan Africa. Palestinian individuals tested, carried maternal haplogroups that originated in Sub-Saharan Africa. The explanation for the presence of predominantly female lineages of African origin in these areas is that they trace back to women brought from Africa as part of the Arab slave trade, assimilated into the areas under Arab rule.
In a genetic study of Y-chromosomal STRs in two populations from Israel and the Palestinian Authority Area: Christian and Muslim Palestinians showed genetic differences.
A 2013 study of Haber and et al. found that "The predominantly Muslim populations of Syrians, Palestinians and Jordanians cluster on branches with other Muslim populations as distant as Morocco and Yemen."
The authors explained that "religious affiliation had a strong impact on the genomes of the Levantines. In particular, conversion of the region's populations to Islam appears to have introduced major rearrangements in populations' relations through admixture with culturally similar but geographically remote populations leading to genetic similarities between remarkably distant populations."
Even the Quran:
And thereafter We (Allah) said to the Children of Israel: "Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd" [17 : 104]
O my people (Jevvs)! Enter the Holy Land, which God has assigned unto you [5 : 21]
We (Allah) settled the Israelites in a blessed land and provided them with good things [10 : 93]
It was our (Allah's) will to favor those who were oppressed (Jevvs) and to make them leaders of man, to bestow on them a noble heritage and to give them power in the land (of Israel) [28 : 5-6]
We (Allah) gave the persecuted people (Jevvs) dominion over the eastern and western lands which We had blessed (the east and west banks of the Jordan River). Thus your Lord's gracious word was fulfilled for the Israelites, because they had endured with fortitude [7 : 137]
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*-------* *THE ORIGIN AND MEANING OF THE TERM PALESTINE* *-------*
The origin for the term Palestine is a term to describe INVADERS by the Hebrews. Anyone who willingly identify himself as a "Palestinian" declares himself to be a colonizer/invader in Hebrew land.
The Philistines were an ancient sea-faring people who invaded the coast of ancient Israel from the islands of the area of the Aegean Sea. The term Philistines was not their actual name or the original term used to describe them - it is nothing more than a later bastardized term in English that holds no real meaning.
The original name of what they were called, comes from how they were called by the Hebrews - which was not their actual Aegean name, but a term that was derived from what they were - invaders. The name was Plishtim, and the small area they colonized on the coast of the land of Israel was called Pleshet (which basically meant 'area/land of invaders', and parallels to the English term Philistia). These words hold meaning, as they come from the root-word to describe INVADERS in Hebrew (and indeed the Philistines were invaders in Hebrew land). Philistia was only a very small strip of land on the coast that the Philistines managed to capture from the Hebrews and occupy it (note that this small territory had never reached near places like Jerusalem, Hebron and other places in Judea and Samaria).
Due to their fighting with the Israelites, the Assyrian conquests, and the Babylonian conquests, the Philistines went completely extinct more than 2600 years ago. What remained of them has been completely assimilated into the nations of the region, and what little remained of them in the land of Israel has been assimilated into the Hebrews.
The Philistines were actually part of a larger group of people that were known as the "Sea People" (because they invaded from the sea), who also invaded other lands (such as Egypt).
The term Palestine is a bastardized English term, which comes from the bastardized Roman coIoniaI term Palestina for Pleshet (what we now call Philistia) - which itself comes from a bastardized Greek term for Pleshet, and in the end originate from Pleshet (what we now call Philistia).
The term was first implemented by the Romans after the final Jevvish-Roman war around 135 CE. The merciless Romans decided that mass ethnic-cleansing, massacre and slavery of Jevvs wasn't enough - they would rename the province of Judea into Palestina in order to further humiliate the Jevvs by renaming their homeland after their ancient enemies (the Philistines), and attempting to erase Jevvish connection to land.
Throughout the centuries this foreign coIoniaI term was forgotten and was no longer in use. The Ottomans, who ruled the land for centuries up until the end of the first World War did not make use of the term.
When the British took control over the land after World War 1 they revived/popularized the incorrect and coIoniaI term Palestine, but even then it wasn't simply known as "Palestine", but as 'Palestine (Land of Israel)'. It was obvious to the British authorities that the land was the homeland of the Jevvs - the land of Israel, and "Palestine" was simply a technical/geographical term, not a term related to any "Palestinian people".
Modern-day Arab "Palestinians", most of which have first came to the land of Israel as recently as the 19th and 20th centuries, have nothing to do with the ancient Aegean Philistines from thousands of years ago (that went completely extinct a several centuries after their invasion to the land of Israel, more than a thousand years before Islam was even created), expect that they were both foreign invaders in Hebrew land and the term they (the Arabs) adopted, which originate from the term to describe INVADERS in the native tongue of the land - Hebrew.
The adoption of the term "Palestinians" (as a new identity) by the Arabs happened only in the mid 1960's (and took off after the 1967 war), as part of an attempt to de-legitimize Israel through false propaganda after they failed stealing the homeland of the Hebrews from them by force with the invading Arab armies. This Plan, which was aided by the Communists/Soviets actually worked quite well for them (as we can see today) due to bias, stupidity, and ignorance, of people around the world.
Despite the success of their anti-Israel propaganda, by identifying as "Palestinians" they (ironically) declare themselves to be invaders in Hebrew land. Another absurd thing is the fact that Arabs can't even pronounce 'p' in their own language (it does not exist in Arabic, and they end up pronouncing it as 'f' or 'b'), thus being unable to properly pronounce their own "original" name for their own "original" invented nation, in their own language.
You can clearly see the sheer hypocrisy, absurdity and dishonesty of Arab "Palestinians", who often complain about Western imperiaIism, in their misuse/propaganda/perpetuation of the foreign coIoniaI term "Palestine" in order to promote their goal of implementing their Pan-Arab-lsIamic imperiaIism in Judea.
Israel is not and never has been "Palestine", just as Jerusalem is not Aelia-Capitolina (another foreign term introduced by the Romans - a name that comes from the family name of the Roman emperor Hadrian. The Arabs, who came later and did not know any better, first called it Aelia, not Al-Quds - which is a bastardized Arab term from the Hebrew term HaQdosha, that was used by them in a much later period), and Shechem is not Nablus (a bastardized Arab term for Neapolis - another foreign colonial term).
*-------* *THE FACTS REGARDING AL-AQSA* *-------*
Today, Jerusalem's holiness to Sunni MusIims as the third most holy city, is based on a late and political interpretation of a Quranic verse. To Shi'ite MusIims, the third holiest city, ranked below Mecca and Medina, is the city of Najaf in southern Iraq.
Early lsIamic sources state that the "Al Aqsa Mosque" (literal meaning: 'the farther mosque'), mentioned only once in the Quran, was one of two mosques located near Ji'irrana, a village located between Mecca and Taif in Hejaz. One of the mosques was called "al-Masjid al-Adna", meaning the "closer mosque" and the other "al-Masjid al-Aqsa", the "farther mosque". When the Quran refers to the Al Aqsa mosque while telling the story of Muhammad's night time journey from the "holy mosque" of Mecca to Al Aqsa, that is, the "farther mosque", it is referring to the mosque in Ji'irrana.
It's also interesting to note the following Hadith:
Narrated Abu Dhar: I said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Which mosque was first built on the surface of the earth?” He said, “Al-Masjid-al-Haram.” I said, “Which was built next?” He replied “The mosque of Al-Aqsa.” I said, “What was the period of construction between the two?” He said, “Forty years.” - Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55, Number 585 ; Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55, Number 636
Al-Aqsa Mosque can't possibly be referring to the mosque which was built in Jerusalem decades after the time of Muhammad's death.
In 682 C.E., fifty years after Mohammed's death, Abdallah Ibn al-Zubayr, the tough man of Mecca, rebelled against the Umayyads who ruled Damascus and would not allow them to fulfill the Hajj in Mecca. Since the Hajj pilgrimage is one of the five basic lsIamic commandments, they decided to choose Jerusalem as their alternative for a pilgrimage site. In order to justify choosing Jerusalem, the Umayyads rewrote the story told in the Quran, moving the Al Aqsa mosque to Jerusalem, and adding, for good measure, the myth of the night time journey of Mohammed to al Aqsa. This is the reason the Sunnis now consider Jerusalem their third holiest city.
Shia lsIam, mercilessly persecuted by the Umayya Caliphate, did not accept the holy Jerusalem canard, which is the reason the third holiest city to Shi'ites is Najif in Iraq, the burial place of Shi'ite founder Ali bin Abi Talib. Many of the Shi'ite elders - Iranian and Hezbollah - only began to call Jerusalem holy after the Khomeni rebellion in 1979 so as to keep the Sunnis from accusing them of being soft on Israel.
The first lie, in that case, is the spurious claim that the "farther mosque" is in Jerusalem.
More lies were piled on to the first one, the main prevarication being the exact location of this so-called Al Aqsa mosque, which until not very long ago, was the silver-domed building on the southern end of the Temple Mount.
The entire area of the Temple Mount is known as al-Haram al-Sharif - "the holy and noble site"- but a change came about after the Six Day War, when Jevvish voices could be heard, calling for the establishment of a synagogue on the Mount. Immediately after the war, a prominent rabbi also said that he wanted to celebrate religious events on the Temple Mount. It was felt that the MusIims would not object, since Al Aqsa was on the southern edge of the compound and the synagogue would not be nearby.
As a result, however, the MusIims decided to announce that the Al Aqsa mentioned in the Quran refers not only to the mosque on the southern end of the compound, but is the name for the entire Temple Mount area, abandoning the original name, al-Haram al-Sharif. The renaming of the Temple Mount is clearly a canard, with two documents, one known and one less known, revealing the truth.
The source that is more widely known is a booklet prepared in 1924 by none other than the openly Jevv-hating (and later on an SS general) Mufti Hajj Amin Al-Husayni and reprinted many times in the years following its first publication. The booklet's title is "A Brief Guide to al-Haram al-Sharif - Jerusalem". Note that the area is not called Al Aqsa. The Al Aqsa Mosque appears as a chapter in the booklet, after the chapter on the Dome of the Rock, the golden-domed structure in the middle of the compound. It is clear that to Hajj Amin Al-Husayni, the Mufti of Jerusalem, the Al Aqsa Mosque was simply the silver-domed building on the southern end of the compound.
The lesser known of the two documents is an ordinary Jordanian tourist map of Jerusalem that was executed in 1965, two years before the 1967 Six Day War. At that time, East Jerusalem was still illegally occupied by the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, while the entire world kept silent and uttered not a word against this totally illegal occupation. The map was drawn by a Jordanian named Abd al-Rahman Rassas who worked as an official surveyor and was authorized by the Hashemite Tourism Authority of Jordan. The map bears the words: "recommended and approved by the official Jordanian Tourist Authority".
A perusal of the map shows that in 1965 the Temple Mount compound was still called "al-Haram al-Sharif", that it was on "Mount Moriah", and that the "Al Aqsa Mosque" was simply the silver-domed building on the southern end of al-Haram al-Sharif. In other words, thirty years before the peace agreement between Israel and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, the Jordanians identified Al Aqsa as no more than an edifice on the southern end of al-Haram al-Sharif, which in turn is built on Mount Moriah.
Those who lie and deceive in the name of lsIam decided to "expand" Al Aqsa - whose real location is actually in Ji'irrana (in Hejaz) - to encompass the entire Temple Mount area only after the Jevvs liberated the site of their Temples in the 1967 Six Day War.
For example, Sheikh Ikrima Sabr, Mufti of Jerusalem 1994-2006, in a speech given on Friday, January 4th, 2002, said the following: "Oh ye MusIims (all over the world), when we talk about the blessed Al Aqsa Mosque, we mean a mosque whose area is 144 dunam (the size of al-Haram al-Sharif in its entirety) including the walls, the al-Buraq Wall (their name for the Western Wall), the passages, hallways, entrances and squares, in addition to the part that is roofed (the building in the southern end), the part that is ancient (under the roofed part) and the Foundation Stone (under the Dome of the Rock), the Marwani prayer site (Solomon's Stables), all are Al Aqsa…"
Another lie, revealed as such by the very same map, follows on the heels of this one. It concerns the site of the Jevvish Holy Temples. Some lsIamic preachers even claim nowadays that al-Haykal al-Maz'oum - "the supposed (Jevvish) Temple" - was never in Jerusalem. The Jordanian map puts paid to the lies of every one of these lsIamic orators.
Of course, those who deny the existence of the Temple in Jerusalem also simply contradict the well-established history of the land.
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that fact is irrelevant, the relevant one is the people who lived there have they ben treated fairly??
for example consider the UN resolution, giving Arabs 31% of the mostly *unfertile* land while making 2/3 of the population and had owned 92%, after zionest has seen this plan they acted upon it, war, into ethnic cleansing
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what makes a country a neutral video:
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my amounts are not all accurate since my source is old give or take a couple of percentages:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine
@@hassanabuabed9563 What are you talking about. The UN partition gave Jews 52% of the Palestinian Mandate half of which was the Negev. In case you don't know the Negev is a desert.
read what I said
carefully before you comment I said "mostly fertile land "
meaning a desert can also exist
but generally, Zionist had been given an unfair advantage.
I can prove that to u by using satellite
imagery, but since we don’t have any before 1948 and if we take satellite
imagery after 1948, the urban environment might have destroyed the agriculture,
so just compare which land had high hills and mountain (since low land are uaslly fertile) and which land was more green
that generally indicate the futility of the land compare the un resolution with
UN 1948 partition plan see any correlation on equality???
reference on how low lands make fertile lands from Wikipedia
"The Jewish State included three fertile lowland plains - the Sharon on the coast, the Jezreel Valley and the upper Jordan Valley"
www.quora.com/Why-are-lowlands-more-suitable-for-farming-than-Hilands
see its agriculture compare it to the UN resolution in 1947
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of_Israel
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/Israel_Topography.png/800px-Israel_Topography.png
www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwio2qKd-M7hAhUDVd8KHQexBbIQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FUnited_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine&psig=AOvVaw0xKQBW9Wpf31tkKPxoEr6K&ust=1555309001736326
hamburgers , hamburgers are the solution. Who doesnt love a good hamburger.
I object.
Steak, steak is the solution. Erry body loves steak
Well I’m a vegan Israeli and I completely object to this solution. We should seek a solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that would secure the rights of Jews, Palestinians, and non-human animals.
It has to be Kosher, otherwise people who eat non-kosher will be punished by death penalty, according to Judaism.
@@datagril8855
We'll give you a special edition of a veggie burger. We got you faded cousin
Hamburger meat in a Pita BREAD with all the work , this could be the Sandwich of the state , French fries are good only if served Hot .
I love it when the Israelis argue. Perfect Jewish response.
What exactly does it mean when some refers to a "Jewish state with Arab citizens"? Does that mean the Jewish religion is codified in the constitution but non Jews can be citizens?
I think it means the status quo. Some Palestinians continue to have Israeli citizenship, but the process (if any) for becoming an Israeli citizen is wildly different for Jews and non-Jews. Unlike the "barrier" guy, who wants a two-state solution in which the existing non-Jewish citizenry is "Bantustaned" out of existence, losing anything but temporary residence of Israel.
Many Palestinians were Jews who converted to Christianity then Islam some are atheists
But they Are always Palestine
Democratic state ... that must keep one ethnic group as a majority ... OH GOD THE OXYMORON
This is a racialist state, that's all....
Amazing how mus always screech "DEMOCRACYYYY" only when invading foreign lands. Never at home.
Still more democtatic than Algeria or Egypt, who strive to keep islam as the majority religion by opressing other ideologies. 😃😃
@@godisalie7022 did i say algeria or egypt are democracies ? Even the country i live in ( morocco) is not ... guess the undemoctratic challenge is a thing in ur brain 🤣
If one ethnic group is a majority (like 99% of countries), it doesn't have to stop the country being a democracy. Israel's concern is that Arab nationalists surrounding them want to expel the Jews and/or bring in millions of them into the country to flip its demographics on its head! Its not paranoia when these nationalists literally say that's their aim, daily. Who wouldn't be concerned about that?
And when 22% of the population (Arab Israelis) have the vote, equal rights to jobs, to medical care, to start their own political parties, to join existing ones (there's Arabs in all major political parties including zionist ones), freedom of expression, freedom of religion.... i.e. a real democracy.
As Ghassan kanafani said “ they steal the bread from you then they give you a piece of the bread, then tell you to thank them for that, how rude they are !! “
David Gideon yeah i have heard this speech before , the chosen people by god , he gave them the land 😂 unfortunately 😉
Rayyan, I’m not going to argue with you about Palestinian consensus that ‘evil’ Zionists stole your land. This is not true on many levels (historical and factual). And whatever I tell you is not going to change your thinking. However, I want to point out what Darwish said about Palestinians: “There are Taliban-type elements in our society, and this is a very dangerous sign."
There are too many, the majority I would say, Palestinians who would never agree to two-state solution (from the river to the sea.. you know the rest). There are too many Taliban type elements in your society. Besides, you are blaming everything to ‘occupation’: from corrupt politicians to prices of food, to not having any democratic type of government not in Gaza and in the West Bank. Pathetic and sad.
Rayyan AbuAlia Arabs have 99.9% of the Middle East that you have turned into shitholes. You don’t need any more to destroy!
Rayyan, is Darwish referencing Rashidun Islamic caliphate colonialists stealing our homes, *not* offering a piece of Israel back to us, then telling us to thank them for being good rulers of Jews? Or holocaust survivors buying homes in Palestine for much higher $ than of land in America the same decade, declaring a zionist philosophy of equal responsibilities & equal rights to Arabs as citizens, offering the majority of our historical homeland to more Arabs for them to have another state, and apologizing for being alive when these peace offerings are refused.
That's the Zionist line of thinking.
Cognitive dissonance is embedded in Zionism.
Can you ask what Palestinians think of the Armenians?
Eddie Guy it's already done 😜
Armenian =❤️❤️❤️❤️
@Eddie Guy
Tough one.Everyone loves the Armenians, The "palestinians" are against anyone that doesn't hate Jews.
I am a Palestinian and I can tell you that what's happening to all people in the middle east is a direct result of nationalism and relegion.
When people realise that god and flags do not make successful countries, the problem will be solved.
drc ula Are you calling anyone who support Germany a killer of Jews? Supporting Turkey is a thing and supporting the killing of Armenians is another. I’ve never heard any Armenian talk about the genocide and the displacement of the Circassians, by the Russian empire and Armenian militias were complicit in the matter.
9:00
This man should award noble prize for telling this solution............
Now you know why they got kicked out of 100+ states.
Exactly, they're horrible people. Selfish
Because of "Catholic"-"Orthodox"-European-Christianity and because of Arabist-lsIam who preached genocidiaI hatred of Jevvs for centuries. You are an "Atheist" yet you inherited that culture.
cause we are not leftist
@Fady Al Qaisy yeah most are nationalists who love their country
@@qayn7617 im only 13 tho
History has shown us that a two state solution is impractical. The land either has to be all Israel or all Palestine. The UN partitioned the land into a Jewish and Arab state in 1948. Was either side satisfied? No. The Arabs attacked the Jewish state violating the UN resolution on partition. Now the Israelis are violating the terms of the UN resolution on partition by building settlements on disputed land. If I was a UN judge, I would give the entire land to Israel because Israel genuinely offered to give back the West Bank and Gaza at the end of the Six Day War and the Arabs refused to accept it. Israel has also done more to develop the land. If you go to Palestinian areas, they look like dumps. At some point someone needs to ask what the Palestinians are doing with all the economic aid they are received from UN agencies, US , Arab and European countries.
"At some point someone needs to ask what the Palestinians are doing with all the economic aid they are received" At some point, you're going to have to wonder how much of the answer to that is "was bombed by the IDF", and ponder the implication of "giving" all of Mandatory Palestine (I know you'd prefer to pretend that didn't exist, but that was its historical and legal name) to Israel.
If you're just saying "I agree with the loudmouthed ethnic cleansing guy with breadcrumbs on his mouth", you could have saved yourself a lot of frankly spurious words.
One Jewish state
"We envision the regime of Jewish Palestine as follows: most of the population will be Jewish, but equal rights for all Arab citizens will not only be guaranteed, they will also be fulfilled."
- Zeev Jabotisnky
So how do you intend to keep the Arabs a minority? Do tell
One thing is certain, it is not possible to unscramble the eggs. In the whole ME the political problem is resolved by authoritarian governments so trying to fit in a democratic solution is exceedingly ambitious. On the whole, shared economic prosperity is a good driver for political change and it would be interesting to see how things work out.
@Иосиф Виссарионович Сталин There's a three and a half state solution to the United Kingdom at present.
When your eggs are rotten it will spoil the whole omelette. You better get use to that bitter taste of apartheid
Iraq is a democracy and Lebanon is almost a democracy. The only reason the Arab states have so many dictatorships is because the Americans (and in Syria's case, the Russians) keep supporting them.
The woman at the 5th minute looks like Linda Hamilton
Dee
she was the israeli version...or maybe linda converted
She is the nicest , she still has a soul .
@Dee - Are you trying to be personal and like her or what? He's asking a question and you're being personal-but that's okay if you don't want to respond to his question.
A two state solution won't work.
one arab palastinain state as it was before 1948 living together before the policy of the common wealth inter and cause the war
lol with hooligan he means himself
The divisions are democracy; it is a fair statement--some of these people really hate democracy, and wish there to be a unified ethnic state.
It’s kinda boring seeing the exact same questions
So why do you watch? Don’t u have anything better to do?
@@BeautifulGood713 i didn't watch all of it ,i just skimmed through it.
I truly believe splitting the Land in half 50-50 and sharing Jerusalem is the best idea this is the only way to stop the killing and suffering so the Palestinians will have land and the Jews will have land.
08:59 = "Everyone will have equal rights"
Except non-Jews.
non Jews have full equal rights in Israel. Give me one Arab country with FULL equal rights for non Muslims? Arabs can't even give women equal rights!
@@theendurance Easy to pretend that is so when it's so much more complicated to actually move to Israel without being a Jew. We'll never know how tolerant Israel actually is, because it is a religious ethno state and theocracy.
@@theendurance can non-jews become a majority in Israel?
@@moma8956 No, because Israel is a country made for Jews, with values, holidays, workdays, etc etc for Jews, and so mostly Jews will always live there.
@@Aivottaja LMAO OK I see you're really buzzword happy huh? Yeah it's easier to move to a country for Jews when you're a Jew, so?
Two state solution on the borders of 1967 and the conflict is over
Than Why didn't It happen in 1947, 1994, 2000, 2008 When this solution was on the line?!!!
Because stupid religous, radicals, that is Why! First get rid of them, then there will be a true solution.
It is far more compecated then that sadly
It will never happen.
Lol
@@lior995 Didnt happen because of Jordan and Egypt. If the Hashemites tried to annex the entire land there would have been conflict as the PLO was interested in power.
Yeah? Too bad they didn't take it when they could, we fought over this land, we are not giving it away.
i like the last guy's answer
"The majority of Palestinians and Israelis are not satisfied with the two state solution"
Could this be because both sides want the other transported out of the whole are? Israelis want the whole land for themselves and Palestinians out and Palestinians think the same way about Israelis.
I wonder what the response of these people would be post-Oct 7?
Danny at 7:16 is the most sensible and rational speaker here. The one thing that I would add is that it may be time to consider a three-state solution's comprising Israel, Gaza and the Palestinian West Bank. It is no longer clear that the Palestinians in Gaza and those in the West Bank can co-exist in together in one state either.
If an Arab state is established next to the state of Israel, they will send missiles to us like they do in Gaza.
there is no such thing as "palestinians" they are Jordanians caught behind enemy lines after the Six Day war. Send them back to Jordan and deport the Iranian Hamas terrorist back to Iran!
There already are 2 states: Israel and Jordan. No need to invent a third
The arabs in Judea and Samaria/West Bank were called Jordanians 55 years ago.islam is the problem
The solution just like last man proposed: West Bank to Jordan including most of the East Jerusalem. Eventually provide a corridor for Hebrew University of Jerusalem which was enclave in period of 1948-1967 and small portion of old city including Jewish quarter and it would be enough. Gaza strip goes to Egyptian control just like it was right after inception of Israel.
2:30 is the best !! A guy that know what he talking about ! There will never be no two state solution can’t possibly happen ! Long live Israel 🇮🇱❤️🇮🇱❤️
When did the English word" wow" became part of the Hebrew language? I remember zeh lo fair ( that's not fair) from decades ago.
A lot of people using the word "wow", it's just a word.
in arabic language yaiy but israels not found unknown they imitate others by force
That's your takeaway from this video? Policing people's Hebrew? Must really offend you that some of the answers were *entirely* in English!
@@AlexFerguson-z8f I'm not at all offended. I'm a native English speaker. Peace Out
@@odessafile75 OK, glad to hear it. Seems a very usual thing; loanwords are "borrowed" into other languages all the time. In fact in the case of short often interjections like "wow", they likely often function paralinguistiically, so speakers may not think of them as "foreign words" at all. And might not even work as "words", neurologically. Shalom, salaam, and peace.
As a israeli i must say that the israelis must learn more about the 2 state solution. only the guy at 7:22 understands how it works.
i am right wing israeli and almost in every topic i support right wing solutions but in the israeli-palestinian problem the only solution is the 2 state solution.
Do you support east Jerusalem as Palestinian capital and west Jerusalem for Israel I'd like to hear you're opinion
Not to be rude but the right wing is based of hating Palestinians and Arabs and you got the extreme right wing like Ben gvir
"what is the alternative to the [...] solution"
whew almost had me scared there
don't know what you are talking about man, or trying to "expose".
Israel is full of zio-nazis and Corey knows it.
@@matiasbrachini8741 Other side is Palestinians is a facade for the Islamic expansion agenda. Please read the Hamas Covenant and Ayatollah Manifesto for evidence. By the way it does not stop there, as the Muslims look towards Europe.
@@nwlondonmetaller3427 They are the ones to be frightened of in the end. They will make lives miserable.
@@nwlondonmetaller3427 Israel has threatened to launch missiles to European capitals (Samson Option) and it actually has the potential to go through with that threat, as it has at least 300 missiles. Tell me what Islamic state can claim the same? Because they way I see it, Israel is the sole country in the Middle East that threatens my existence directly while I'm on the other side of the world and have nothing to do with the Israel-Palestine war.
Sure, Zionists export Islamic violence to my country. But no Islamic country would likely be able to attack me from where they are.
2:27 I was very happy with this guy, he really made me laugh with his stupidity that he couldn't hide his real opinion like the other Jews do, he was the only honest one between them, nice
They want to do to the Christian and Muslim Palestinians what AH did to the gypsies and Jews.
First in Gaza you have to get rid of Hamas since they siphon off most economic aid to use for their war effort. Once they are gone, then economic aid must be used to build infrastructure and for other economic development that benefits the common people of Gaza.
If Gaza could see some real economic development that boosted the average person’s quality of life and wealth, I think people there would concentrate on living instead of just existing and fighting the Israelis. The people of Gaza would have something to lose from war whereas right now many of them don’t have much to lose from ongoing conflict. Israel & Egypt would benefit by having a more stable and economically robust neighbor.
It makes me wonder if Egypt and Saudi should team up with Israel against Hamas to not only help them but also to keep an eye on any issues of civilians being affected there.
Smart Benny. Looks like someone can see clearly and objectively. Refreshing
which guy was benny?
@@hassanabuabed9563 Last one
His ideas didn't make too much realistic sense if you know anything about the conflict, but he sure likes to talk big.
For a solution listen to Prof Kedar
@Ashkenazi Dissident Right But still people from Jericho don't marry people from Bethlehem. Not a nation.
I propose a solution:
Fight to the death and whichever side wins gets to keep all
That's what will happen, either ways.
@IL__KINGDOM ABRAHAM
Actually, Israeli's don't give a sh!t about what the arabs are doing, and what they cal themselves, as long as they're not attacking us or try to milk us for welfare.
'48, '67, '73... and few more. enough. we (Israel) are tired of wining wars. we want to win at other fields
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I hope you start a war with 1.8 billion Muslims. You’re only wining because the US backing every aggression attack committed by the Zionist regime against the Arab countries.
@@lweil9291 Tell that to all the Arab countries that are making peace with Israel
First of all, there is support for a two state solution. It may have waxed or waned at times and most recently it has waned perhaps - but there is still majority support for a two state solution. It’s important to start the question with facts when facts exist.
Bantustan 2 state solution will never work...
Israelis dont get it...?
Wernt israelis supposed to be smart..!!??????
Guy at the end is almost more concerning than the "ethnic cleansing" fellow. He speaks very dogmatically... but doesn't really say anything directly in response to the questions. One would be tempted to read that as a "keep Settling, keep Annexing" strategy that doesn't quite want to announce itself as such.
Not enough space for two state solution.
singapore had a tiny space and can still flourish..
There seems to be space for about 13m people at present. They can't form two states? Or you plan on 2removing" some of those people?
Jordan is the only solution ... its 78% of British mandated Palestine anyhow
So you want to kick the Palestinians out of their homes?
Ethnic cleansing? That's your solution?
Karim A ....... like the Jordanian Arabs did to the Jews in 48 when they invaded and occupied Judea and Samaria till 1967, when we won it back?
ב13:00 הבנאדם מדבר במילים גבוהות כאילו הוא מומחה אבל בתכלס פולט צרור של שטויות חסרות הגיון.
My ancestor J.Cartier discovered Canada , I have never been there, do you believe I should call Canada
"my land " ( God got him to discover the land ). And contrary to a lot of people I have proof J.Cartier existed and that he was a relative .
Nir Hakimian What about the people who lived there for one or two thousands years?
Nir Hakimian Beside , I wonder why he would have retailed Mecca , because of the dancing muslims ?
Nir Hakimian This is not true, sorry.I know you believe it is ,but it is not true.
I don't yet need the history books to remember these last 60 years and all the events.
Canada belongs to the native polutation your ancestor and his ilk oppressed and stoke from
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להעביר אותם לירדן בכוח.
חחח תמשיך לחלום
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@Random Guy
עדיין לא הבנת שהפייגלה שלך לא מסוגל ליותר מללקק כפות רגליים? הסמים שרפו לך את כל תאי המוח יא סטלן?
אבל אל תדאג, אנחנו נדאג לו להתקדם ליותר מזה... פעם הבאה הלשון שלו תבריק ביצים ביסודיות
@Random Guy היית צריך לשאול קודם אם הצבעתי,
וכן נקווה שפעם הבאה ניכנס... לדעתי משהו מסריח בבחירות.
@@محمد-ث8و5ش איזה סטנדאפיסט אתה. מוכשר לאללה
ONLY one good solution = you come on a boat then you go back on the boat were you come FROM!!!
THAT its the good solution !!!!!!!!!!!
70 years has past since, evryone in isreal where born thare thats not a solution.
Im sure their brothers in saudi arabia and egypt will embrace them back and shower them with love.
As much as your " brothers in Poland and Russia will embrace them back and shower them with love."
They were born on that land, as were most of their parents and grandparents. You can't just remove them. Well you can, but that's called ethnic cleansing and expropriation.
@@chugalongway01 Your claims don't connect to any actual data just look how many Jews live in those countries... none, the majority of Israelis aren't from Europe at all, try again later.
@Ashkenazi Dissident Right There's also that
@@theprotector6099 occupation doing it since 1948 till now< don't you expect similar reaction ?
Perhaps the strong case for Israeli ownership of the land is the Koran itself. In the Holy Book of the Muslims, their Prophet Muhammad openly acknowledges that land of Israel belongs to the Jews. If Palestinians read the Koran and keep on fighting, they are going against their own religion Islam. They are not following Allah's message through Prophet Muhammad.
not all palestinians are muslim. around half of them were christian during ottoman times.
Does the Qur'an also happen to have a handy map of the borders of this Land of Israel, and is it the same as Neyanyahoo's famous "big red marker" map? If not, not clear how that helps us.
@user-kr1qq7cz8b At the very least we do have evidences found throughout the Levant where Jews originally settled in right, plus the whereabouts of the Temple Mount doesn't seem to be a no-brainer.
one state solution
a Jewish state
Ask Palestine “Why have they declined peace with Israel multiple times and claim Israel is the oppressor”
@Hamza L. LIAR. Arafat refused because of impossible demands.
sounds like some squatter that entered my basement and also took the living room in my home asked me for peace.
@BusterPlanet "Most of Israel was pretty much swamps, empty dunes"
So why are you attached to it? Your religious text (which are the only justification, stupid if I may add, for jews being there) seem to think otherwise.
Why not let the arabs play in the sand and you just go be developed somewhere else? After all you yourself said there's nothing important there? There are plenty other lands which are just sand, dunes and swamps.
Turkey and Cyprus are more developed than Israel anyway.
@BusterPlanet Oh so it's not just sand and dunes after all eh?
If every historic claim was to be fullfilled then America would be ruled by native Americans. Turks could claim land in Mongolia. Persians could claim up to Kazakhstan. The whole Sahara would belong to Tuaregs.
Big surprise to you: Palestinians share 90% of their genetics with Mizrahi jews from the region (not the ones coming from Poland and Germany obviously) so that would make them indigenous too. You are aware there were already jews there before 48 right, which didn't cause any problem before mass migrations? You are also aware jews were much better treated under Muslim kingdoms than Christian ones until you started pulling their leg too?
Sure, they, palestinians are a bit "polluted" by more southern arab blood, but so are you with more northern european blood. And plenty of mizrahis have some southern arab genetics as well.
@BusterPlanet "And what happends when the 7 arab states lost to the tiny state of the jewish people? Many of the palestinians were evicted as a result of the war their own people started."
You started the problem by attemtping to establish an state where people already lived (even if they lived in just sand). Have someone move in to your house and put his own rules and defend from him so people then say "you started it".
So did many jews living peacefully in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Morocco.
Moving and evicting people around seems like a daily routine to you as you describe it.
It's also a fact Irgun/Lehi/Steiner started all the terrorist attacks.
"Palestine was never an established country and was never refered to as an established arab state, just part of an empire. "
So were you, romans, greeks, ottomans, crusaders etc... This state you speak of, existed in a far removed era when states as we know of were not even a thing.
Only relatively recent thing that could be considered a valid jewish state was the Khazar Khanate. What you speak in biblical times was not much different than how the arabs and bedouins were organized before 48. You can't use that claim and expect to be taken seriously.
Playing the victim while you have the whole western world supporting you also doesn't make the cut., "Foreign colonizers" lmfao. What does that make you then Goldsteinberg, with your full slavic and/or germanic name?
They removed to Ukraine and Poland
Who will remove to poland???.
What if you create a Palestine state and Iran will be its allie , North korea the weapon supplier
Ask them about the Emirate plan.
I think it's the smartest way of thinking, containing (the psychological term) the other's way of thinking instead of giving him solutions according to our way of thinking.
dr. kedar's thinking in whole is enlightening.
Best option is to send them to Jordan...including their mosque if possible.
AKA ethnic cleansing, per the breadcrumb-mouthed guy in the video. Maybe combined with the "remove citizenship from non-Jews" wheeze from the Barrier dude.
it won't be half and half. there's 7 mill Jews and 2 million Arabs.
There are more than enough Arabs
*2 billion muslims
The guy at 2.0 sounds south african
The arabs in Judea and Samaria/West Bank were called Jordanians 55 years ago.
@Hamza L. Jews were called Palestinians before 1948. Even the newspaper Palestine Post was Jewish owned.
Arabs didn't like the colonialist word Palestinians imposed upon them.
@Hamza L. Before the 60's arabs didn't call themselves "palestinians" it's a name taken out of Jewish history and annexed
While the Brit's called the whole area "Palastine" the portion west of the Jordan river was calle "Jewish Palestine" the flag and the currency were in Hebrew and carried a Jewish star.
The portion (over 80% of the area) east of the Jordan river was called "Trans Jordan"
The fabrication of the "arab -palestinian national" started much later, after failing a few military attempts of destroying Israel.
We've just decided to call ourselves the spaghetti people. Remind me with which airline you came to this country?
Call them whatever you want. The fact is they've lived there for generations, unlike the european settlers.
Ehud Olmert , who was PM from 2006 - 2009 then offered to give even more land in the West Bank, 93% to Mahmoud Abbas in return for peace but Abbas like Arafat was too slow to take advantage of the situation. Olmert was lambasted and rebuked, called in many right wing circles a traitor to Israel. Olmert eventually lost the election to Bibi Netanyahu ' s right wing coalition and any peace deals were totally scraped.
palestinians own 100% of the land between med sea & jordan river, settler-colonial zionists expelled 800,000 palestinians from that land, destroyed 500 villages and towns then built aparthied state called Israel! Palestinians will never accept anything less than 100% of historic palestinian, jews was minority before the ethnic cleansing of palestinians and they will certainly end up minority in the near future
If that's how you feel don't whine when you get your asses kicked when Gaza gets bombed and when we snipe rioters along our border as in the "Great March of Return"
Abbas ignored Olmert's offer. It wasnt that he was slow. They want too much, they are acting like they won the 1947 war and every war since, the majority of them say they are aiming for all the land and ethnic cleansing of Jews and then expect us to allow them a militarized state ? fuck them
@@hassanmohamudali3065
Arab countries tried to get the whole Land between the See and the river by forces, but it is Ok to admit they couldn't do It and just accept your defeat and Its results.
As Argentinian I think Israel and Palestina Would name after Holyland. And ONU be intermmediate and it regulates with fair rules.
unrealistic as the ONU can't lawmake an entire country, that's called a dictatorship.
ah yes we all know that israel is not a normal state...
@CoreyGil-shuster ask them about the NOAHIDE LAWS signed into law March 1991 , signed by George W Bush.
It has been debunked. It's an education day in order to teach the importance of noahide laws in memory of the Rebbe of America. You should probably start to doubt your sources at this point... I've been there, I've seen, and it's all lies. The world works in much subtle ways. For exemple, some powerfull guy might have some interest in propagating a rumor. And a lot of people like you will happily turn themselves into tools serving his agenda. Live your life, spread the good, that will help.
Wow, I like how they follow their hostile opinions/intentions by : I want peace 😂
The man at the 3:00 immature
He's the text-book twat
Israel also made an offer to give back the West Bank and Gaza in 1967 but Nasser and all the Arab leaders gathered in Khartoum and refused to negotiate or recognize Israel. Then Israel offered to negotiate with the Palestinians twice : the closest was the 2000 Taba negotiations conducted by Bill Clinton , Ehud Barak and Yasser Arafat by which Palestinians would have got 90% of the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem. Arafat refused to make a counter offer and did not take advantage of the situation. Arafat kept insisting on the right of return which the Israelis would not budge on. A year later ( in 2001) Barak was defeated in the Israeli election by Sharon and the negotiations collapsed.
Give the west bank back to who?
Just change the name of the whole country.... jews and arabs would work together better
Call it Canaan.
No, there wouldn't
There are many islamic fundamentalists who wouldn't want to give israel a minute of rest.
@C caymer then what is ?
@Starhopper im not arab...go home loser
Why my farting its really smell?
Alternative: Israel liberating all the Land of Israel.
Only solution is for Palestine to be a part of Jordan. I don't see how Palestine can be a self sustainable state that doesn't beg for money and focuses on developing their country.
Yulia Shapira ....Nice where from you my friend?
what about if israeli settlers return back to their ancestral homeland in europe
@@hassanmohamudali3065 You delusional...
@@yuliashapira6281 You are dimwit
@@qayn7617 I mean give israelis khazaria
Annex the West Bank but not Gaza and remain a Jewish majority state with a larger Arab minority (not smart).
Disengage from the West Bank while Gaza stays under Hamas, a three state solution.
Jordan and Egypt taking them back isn't likely.
@The Fantastic Five
Yes, it may be time to consider a three-state solution.
Are you suggesting the three-state solution is the "smart" one, or do you feel simply calling it was argument against it in itself?
Two-state vs three-state is really a nuance, as if one state wants to split, or two states want to merge, that's their own business. So the question is essentially, does Israel want to annex the land, and give the people normal civil rights? Annex the land and ethnically cleanse it? Annex it and have a subject people? Or renounce all claim and control of WB&G (or some of it).
Obviously the status quo is essentially the third option, with increasing elements of the second, and the Israeli right-wing seems broadly happy with that.
Great video Corey. The Hasbara-Netenyahu narrative is so toxic and irrational in the Diaspora, it is really good to hear some independent and rational voices from Yisrooyl.
2:29 delusion personified
Name me 1 palestinian king or a leader before arafat
3rd guy is South African!
@SixFootScream-is South Africa it written on his face or what?
@@johnsmith-xg5wq Accent
@@SixFootScream - So you're familiar with what South African Hebrew accent sounds like?
@@johnsmith-xg5wq An South African English accent
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Arrogance arrogance... On display...
Forget peace
To nuke everything flat!
you included
Let me sum it up in a few sentences :
As an Israeli jew, I support the idea of peace. Both sides require it, and I believe both sides want it as well. The problem is - Israelis who can see wide and clear understand the "Two State Solution" isn't a solution at all. A full blown palestinian state means the destruction of Israel, or at least more losses and pain than we already have.
A palestinian state *must never exist* , but peace has to be gotten.
How. On earth are you goibg to get that....!!!???
"I support the idea of peace". Really? Who doesn't? Who wants to live at war? Genius.
"I support the idea of peace, but I oppose all ways of getting there."
Also, it's the exact opposite of "summing up" if you waffle on for a paragraph, and just say nothing at all.
Corey ,many times in your videos you give false information, please get your facts straight
What "false information" are you objecting to? He's just asking some pretty basic and pretty neutral interview questions. Are you objecting to the opinions of the *interviewees*?
i suggest some 2 hypothesis and proposals for this solution
1- israeil should annex west bank and gaza strip and rellocate all palestnies too the south of israeil negev desert and there should they have a autonomous state where military foreign affairs currency communication should controlled by israeil
And
palestine should have a state constitution own assembly pm president own flag own national anthem
2- That egypt and jordan has the area 7-8 times bigger than israeil soo there any province should be taken as in favour of money( money should be given by israeil) and a new soverign palestine should be made there
So what Ur saying is forcibly 3vict millions from the west bank and Gaza into the undeveloped desert
@@amrelemary338
yes
I think 2 state is the only option. Give west bank to all the arabs. Take back Gaza strip and City of Jerusalem including the western wall. Also give back the aqsa mosque part. Your problem is solved. And if then Palestinians make conflict then take control of everything and force arabs to go to other arabic countries
There are 23 Arab states declared as Islamic states. "Palestinians" are at home in all of them (as they came from all of them) and Jordan is itself an Arab Muslim Palestine. Therefore the only solution for the conflict is the 23 state solution. The Land of Israel is the land of the Jewish people. This is the solution for the conflict. Between the sea and the Jordan river, its the land of Jewish people.
Ethnic cleansing. The breadcrumb-mouthed guy in the video was at least a little more direct about it than this mealy-mouthed neo-fascist crap.