Israelis: Would you agree to a binational state?
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Huh, that guy made me laugh, the Palestinians want to take over Israel
while Israel is building settlements all over the west bank
Israelis and their logic :)
it's Always the same Propaganda since 1948, but more and more People don't believe them.
Palestinians don't want Israel at all. They want Palestinian state INSTEAD of Israel. This is the whole conflict all about.
Jews build those settlements because the Palestinians want a Palestinian state on all the land. There would be no need to occupy and divide them, if they wouldn't have taken aggressive measures to eliminate another state.
the left gaza and gave it to the palestinians who turned it into a terror base and forced israel to blockade all their borders
@@fordmustnagisbestcarath5046 you eliminate people from their homes and land and put them into prison and then call them terrorists... I wonder what fucking lies your government have told you too ... read about the nakba read about Deir Yassin ... read educate yourself...
3:50 Man: "This is a religious conflict (Islam vs Judaism)"
Christian Palestianins: Excuse the bejesus out of me?
Because historically christians loved jews sooo much lol
The Christians aren’t fighting the Israelis.
It's a religious Islamic conflict. The Christians, as a small minority, are just joining the side they are under.
@@Abilliph Palestinians christians were the face of resistance back in the 1980's
@@Seanonyoutube you haven't heard of George habash?
A "binational" State DOES NOT mean "we become one people" as Corey argued to his interviewees. Nor does it mean that either Israeli Jews or Palestinian be made a "minority" It just means that a single institution be created to manage and regulate both aspirations to sovereignty and prevent one side from eating up the other (creating further injustices and disasters). Meaning that it doesn't even - per se - be an antithesis to either palestinian nationalism or zionism (including religious zionism).
So it sounds like what you're saying is two separate states...If they are under the same laws then, as the first guy stated, the majority group would end up with the power to make the laws fit their religious values. You're view of it is way too idealistic
@@ddh8624 not true ... we just want a tate that doesn't practice apartheid on base of religion and doesn't ethnic_cleanse Palestinians
@@ddh8624 there's something called a federal system.
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@@ddh8624 no. For instance, Malaysia is a country made up of several states but all 13 states are in one single country under the sovereignty of Malaysia. A binational state is not two separate countries but a country of two nations, in this case, the Arabs and the Jews.
Imagine if the State of Israel and the State of Palestine decided to merge and form a federation, say the name is, idk maybe the Federation of Canaan/Canaanite Federation. In this federation, there will be two separate states each has autonomy over its own territories such as police departments or state laws or healthcare, or whatever like in the USA or other federated countries but some aspects are reserved for the federal government. The leader of these states would be called First Minister or Chief Minister.
Third generation refugees aren't valid
But 2000 year old refugees are valid
What kind of logic is that?
The question isn't being phrased properly. It should be "a single, multi-ethnic, multi-faith, multi-language state with a new name. With constitutional rights to religion and language. Similar to Canada."
This is perfect. And I can't see a reason to reject it except racism
Canada is a Bi-Cultural, Christian country. English and French, with Catholicism being the only religion protected by the constitution in any way.
@@Nobody-qh7hk Canada has no official religion and it is not necessarily a “Christian” country. Freedom of religion is protected in the Constitution but no specific religion has priority over any others in Canada
@@BoardroomBuddha The United Nations declared in 1999 that Ontario, Canada was in violation of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights by exclusively funding Catholic schools over other faith-based schools. Christianity does have priority over other religions in Canada.
@@Nobody-qh7hk Bottom line: the so-called "Canaanite Solution" where the entire region becomes a single, multi-ethnic country where the state does not officially endorse a particular religion is a solution that is worth examining.
I used to donate quite a bit to good projects like yours, but have a bad financial situation at the moment....
You are the only person I still donate to. You do the most good with every € you get.
Your videos have taught me how things in Israel/Palestine work
What about Jewish (Semitic not converted ) men who married Christian women? If they brought kids that don't have any religion? Why they can't be married in Israel? what about a minority of Arabs and Druzes that don't have religion at all why they can't have a wedding without religion in Israel? Why Jewish, Christian and Muslim religion is so important for nonreligious minorities to have human rights? money politics? For example United Kingdom and America in my opinion are countries where a minority of people without religion can be married in their birth country.
@@zhulyilol you do know anyone who is palestenian no matter your religion you are SEMTIC
Arabs are semitic and so is the Arab language I am SEMTIC how can I be anti SEMETIC
Free Palestine
I speak about the Jewish laws @@RosinDaddy5280
@@RosinDaddy5280 I speak about laws as non-Jews can not be married in Israel. yes, I have an Egyptian friend. I'm against wars, I came from Christian ancestors. but my views are closer to the Bahamian religion. Every nation and language is important. I hope for you to have a Palestinian land in the middle east without hurting or killing the Jews and the Israeli Arabs.
Thank you for doing these interviews, it's really good to hear opinions...
It would be awesome if both sons of Abraham stopped war ❤️
bbrexha 8 I hate to say, but it almost feels like we destined for the opposite. So very sad.
The Palestinians are NOT sons of Avraham.
Abraham never existed
@@FakeAlienInvasionPlan palestine kings never existed or a nation
@@zavtradnem first let's see if the heirs of Muhammad can stop their war, then we'll talk about the sons of Abraham.
I think you needed to explain a binational state before you asked them whet they thought of it.
How does the Bible tell you Israelis to treat the peaceable resident? If God approved of your behavior, wouldn't you have peace already?
I do enjoy your on the ground views and opinions.
As a Palestinian i think there should be bin-national state.
Ahmad Assahouri As an Israeli I agree with you. Our lives need to be integrated so we can learn to live in peace. The more we are separated, the less we know about each other, and the more distant we inevitably become. Growing together is the only way.
Guy I agree bro 100%! I grew up in the usa and my best friend is jewish American and we have more in common then my friends who are arabs , white , black , muslims etc! Its time for change !
Ahmad Assahouri I grew up in America too. People like us are so much less ignorant than lots of the indigenous population here. I have many Muslim friends from New York. Amazing people. We all lived in peace, and nothing about it was ever questioned. It was natural. I wish our leaders would push harder for peace, bc the ones who will really suffer are the members of the next generation. They will pay the price for their predecessors’ mistakes. Are you in the US now, or back over here?
@@Guy-cs8yj it wont work Arabs and bews (in the middel east) hate each too much they cant stand each other its not like in America or Europe
The vast majority of Israelis don't want it and we'd fight to reestablish Israel if it ever happened. It didn't exactly work during the British Mandate era
3:05 There you have a fanatic, an irrational hooligan raising his voice.
The second is hardcore illusionist, and I say that as Jewish Israeli.
4:00 some muslim/islamic state are not "arabs" if i don't get wrong it is especially the pan-arabist who wants only "arabs" state
a 2 state solution is the only solution for two peoples who are overly religious/non compatible.
*Can we pause this for dinner?* 😂
Which people in the world have suffered the most from racism? The Jews. So how can Jewish people be so racist against Arabs? It's blindness. Racism is racism. It's never right or justifiable and it always leads to suffering.
It's not racism... The one state solution is nice i theory, but in practice it won't solve anything. You have two groups that don't get along together, both don't trust each other, with one group constantly saying they won't accept any solution of peace, and the other group that holds most of the power doesn't trust the other side because well they keep saying they wouldn't accept peace.
No offence but I'm confused about this "binational state" term. Is it like a state with 2 sovereign systems? Only example I can think of with a similar system is Bosnia-Herzegovina and by all accounts it's pretty fragile.
the UK, Canada, USA, Belgium, Switzerland, etc. all live under various systems that protect different nationalities or sub-national identities within an overarching joint structure.
@@user-ed7et3pb4o those countries don't have historical problems with different religions
@@SRBOMBONICA86 Are you serious? They absolutely do have violent and complicated histories complete with targeting of religious and national minorities - actually more so than Palestine before Zionism, which was relatively peaceful.
@@user-ed7et3pb4o wtf no they don't , Yugoslavia had such history and it completely dissolved , rightfully so
Binational states are very fragile. Czechoslovakia is an example of a binational state that was able to separate peacefully. The example of the Serbian republic if srpska is somewhat similar to the situation of jewish settlement in the west bank.
Former Yugoslavia I think is unfortunately the closest to our situation in Israel/Palestine, which is not a very optimistic scenario.
What we have that is even worse than Yugoslavia is that I think Serbs, Croats and Bosnian do see each other as generally native to the land whereas Palestinians generally don't see most jews as native. So unfortunately, the conflict might take another 400-500 years, if the planet survives.
As an israeli, hell no.
Two state solution.
King of Mesopotamia
I appriciate thesupport but we need to be realistic, the palestinians won't just pack up and leave...
The only reason this conflict exists is because of religion, in my opinion. Hopefully Palestinians become more secular in the future, Which may not happen.
מתן גורני hell no. We will be smaller, and in consequence a much easier target
yrm159
Do you prefer having 5 million palestinians in israel?
notorious namrod
Once the palestinians leave us be, they can split into a thousand nations for all I care.
Basically asking israelis if they want israel to turn into EU countries like sweden, belgium, oh and lets not forget germanys cologne new years eve. And that would be the best scenario
I think the best solution would be some loose type of confederation of more than two entities.
In 1947 Ben Gurion said "there can be no stable and strong Jewish state so long as it has a Jewish majority of only 60%" he warned Israel at the same time that Israel would have to deal with "this severe problem with a new approach in due course" Then in December 2003 Netanyahu brought this up again when he said "If Arabs in Israel form 40% of the population....this is the end of the Jewish state" Then he went on to say" But 20% is also a problem....If the relationship with these 20% becomes problematic the state is entitled to employ extreme measures"
We all saw where that type of nationalism lead to in 1930s Germany
gwmkiwi Benjamin Netanyahu. After 60 years of Israel, FINALLY a PM who was actually born there.
Amazing.
What an achievement.
Give the guy a cookie...
RUclips please don't remove this opinion because of prejudice. It is an answer To the guy that sounds like he is from Brooklyn NY, claiming that zionists wished the war would be about realestate but the Palestinians turned it into a religious war. You are very wrong! How more of a religious problem could it be when someone is claiming "God gave them land" the "jews" brought the holy war to Palestine, not Palestine brought holy war to the "jewish people" the problem is stealing Palestinian homes and land claiming God promised it to you. The problem is the Palestinians want their realestate back. from the European that invaded Palestine during late 40s. Be it Palestinian Jew, Christian, Muslim or whatever religion said Palestinian is. End the occupation Now! No Arab country treated Jews the way Israel treats the Palestinians
The first guy from New York and he lecture us about the Palestine refugees coming back to their land.
Captioning tip: You shouldn't correct people's grammar unless it creates ambiguity, and even then, you correct within parenthesis
What do they think about two states solution thou ?
As an outsider (Indian) the solution to the problem is that Jordan should accept all the Palestinians as they are Muslims and Gaza Muslims migrated to Egypt. And then Israel control this vacated land. When Muslim go to Muslim what is the problem? Muslims have 56 countries and Jew's have only one so why not?
4:23 arent Israelis refugees from 2000+ years back ? i dont get it
Yehudim have always had a presence in the semitic region for 3000 years. Also, jews in diaspora returned and bought land from the arabs around the time of the Collapse of the Ottoman Empire. And later became self determined on their historical land.
A jew is someone who is born from a jewish mother or converts. What does race have anything to do with being part of a nation or your identity that you were raised? There are no pure races.
Anyway all Major Jewish Groups can trace their ancestry to the levant so you're wrong.
@@anthonyr963 yes but it is scientifically nonsense, no one can proof that! This guys which came from Russia and Europa have no Connection to the ancient israelites, deal with it. Just look on them which are coming from Europa do they look like middle eastern People? The arab palestinians have much more connection genetically to the ancient israelites, why? because there were many which converted from judaism to Islam.
@@summ466 -greek coin say IUDEA ,not palestina before rome put down jewish revoly,not arab/pa-lie-stin
Why not give almost everyone what they want on an individual basis. If an individual Palestinian want to be Israeli he can take citizenship. If an individual Palestinian want self determination under the PA then he can live in a self governing state, if an individual Palestinian refugee wants to return to Haifa then OK, if a Palestinian's house is now under a shopping mall then he can have compensation, dealing with people on an individual basis plus the injection of enough international money could solve this problem. Israel can easily absorb maybe 2 million Muslims without endangering the Jewish demographic majority, I doubt more than 2 million would actually want to become Israeli. Gaza of course is a different story.
I think the reluctant or negative answers by many of these people prove that now more than ever, we DO need a one-state solution, a universal democracy under which both Jews and Arabs can live together under with equal rights.
We would violently resist it. Just try to impose it on us, see what happens. This universal democracy would be a bloody failure
@@warpedcomedy Who's "we"?
Arabs are Muslims Jews Christians atheists Ismaili Druze kurdy
It's a ZIONIST state big diff between ZIONism & Real Judaism
17:40 and you are not ?
Thanks corey for standing up for humans
I am afraid that the binational state is somewhat of a utopia. I totally agree with your nephew. Too many differences.The two state solution is preferable.
What differences?
It’s undemocratic to want it to be a Jewish majority state at all cost!
If the majority isn’t Jewish then it is what it is. It’s the Palestinians land as well
corey please ask the west bank palestinian what they think of arab-israelis"or palestinian israelis"
The "Nazi hunter" seems that he's turned into what he's been hunting: a fanatic.
Matias Brachini Yeah he's full of shit, what do you expect from someone with a fictitious title who works a fictitious job, he lives in a fantasy.
James It also looks like he learned the word "ethos" last week and uses it everytime he can.
India had a 2 state solution , wasn't very good
Before talking about a binational state for Israel, how about for the US and Mexico? Or India and Pakistan? Or Russia and China? Or France and Germany? It's an idiotic idea.
Actually, India for example, already defines itself as a plurinational State (which is a step above nation states), so does Mexico. France and the US do not define themselves as ethnic (or religious) nation-States anyways so it is of topic. Only the comparison with Pakistan remains.
Now, another big difference is that - as of today (although at the expense of countless tragedies, ethnic cleansing and millions of dead bodies), both the US and Mexico, India and Pakistan, Russia and China as well as France and Germany are distinct societies, on distinct territories and controlled by distinct and fully sovereign state. It is not the case with Israeli and Palestinian societies : both are on a single territory, Palestinians have no sovereign State, most of them live under a joint dictatorship between the Israeli Army and the "Palestinian authority", the rest are either in Gaza under Hamas authoritarianism and a military siege, or live in refugee camps elsewhere.
There is thus absolutely no comparison to be made. A better one would have been catholics and protestants in Ulster, Armenians and Azeris in the Karabagh or Bosniaks and Serbs in Bosnia.
India, Mexico, the US, and France still have national identities. Also, the comparison is still apt. The West Bank is occupied, although it has a high degree of autonomy, but Gaza functions as a de facto independent state run by Hamas, although not recognized as such. It's not occupied by Israel. And what do the Palestinians in the refugee camps have anything to do with it? They live outside the territory.
France and Germany? China and Russia? Well gee, neither one of those countries took all of the other's land and tried to drive the other out.
It's not a situation like Palestine and Israel at all.
What if US had Native Americans on lockdown, did not give them citizenship at birth, routinely bombed reservations and had different laws for them compared to white Americans? What does that sound like? There is still enough unfairness going on but I think if THIS happened, everyone would hate the US and put pressure on them.
Except Israel isn't actively trying to drive the Palestinians out. And it's still different. The Native Americans are in the US. The West Bank and Gaza are foreign territories. The Native Americans were still within the US while the Palestinians are foreigners. While the West Bank is still under military occupation, Gaza hasn't been occupied since 2005. It's a completely self-governing entity. Israel imposes a blockade because of hostile actions coming from Gaza, and when the Hamas regime there attacks Israel, there is an Israeli response (Israel doesn't "routinely bomb" for the hell of it). Besides, how would such a solution not spark a civil war?
The entire country used to be Palestine. Israeli invaded it and drove them out in the 40s and 50s. They aren't foreigners, they are people without a damn state to speak of because Palestine became Israel and they weren't granted Israeli citizenship.
Maybe Israel should have thought of what it would or wouldn't spark back in the 40s.
Letting all Palestinians move to Gaza and allowing Gaza to become it's own country would be an option, but I Gaza as it is today could not absorb all of these people. They'd need more land, but Israel won't give back an inch of what they stole.
Ask this question today, you will find it very hard to find anyone answering yes
How angry the jew gets at the very thoughts of multiculturalism 3:00
2 million arabs in Israel is not multicultural enough?
@@aaliyah3002 you moslems struggle everywhere in the modern world. War and terrorism is your comfort zone. You don't build cars ships or planes.
@@aaliyah3002 struggle you jihadis shtruggle everywhere from Palestine to France and Sweden
@@aaliyah3002 only thing you don't struggle is having 10 kids and collecting welfare for all of them.
@@aaliyah3002 look up Isaia Bibi and what you did to her. Death sentence for drinking water from your cup. That's struggle. What you call struggle is Islamic insanity.
too much racism and discrimination in just a video. Why don't you talk about the Apartheid, Corey?
3:17 racism
Blaming the issue on extremists is cowardly... You know that the vast vast vast majority of Palestinians just want to live in peace with dignity.
My dad literally says he does not give a shit about territory I just want equality fuck barely tolerating me I want equality.
There are 22 arab states and just 1 Israel. Greetz from Germany
Larrypint ah
Butthurt European again
And also a nazi
Why don't you give a piece of land to them given the pogroms of Holocaust was by Germany, it would have been an impostic logic, whilst the Arabs had nothing to do with the Holocaust. Yet you're saying 22 Arab countries! On what right? Hypocrisy at its finest
efopo the Palestinian refugees became refugees because of the creation of Israel in the first place
Same for the Jewish refugees
What u said is totally against Israel
I admire that in you
There are 50 Euro states and just 1 Israel. so give them Germany.
there are 50 European states, yet Europe threw their garbage in the middle east.
A binational state will be so problematic, you know, like Belgium .. or ,god forbid, Switzerland!
The middle East is not like Europe.
12:08 this woman right here 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
First guy was on the money. I would like anyone to try to refute what he said
It's so sad that you belief for jews to exist you have to practice apartheid on Palestinians...
@@sn1803 It's not apartheid if its a two state solution. Jews have been targeted, persecuted, blamed for everything since ancient times. And unless you know the history, you wouldn't understand the need for Israel. What troubles have Palestinians gone through before 1948?
Refugees third generation?
Can you tell us jews from the diaspora who "returned" to palestine since 1917, were from wich generation?
Does the second guy know that Lebanon has a Christian president?
I am an Indian. I always said that it is a religious conflict, not a conflict over the land. Arab oil, wealth generated through oil and Arab influence over the world, made this regional conflict impossible for both sides to compromise and find mutually acceptable solution. Israelis could pray for the day when Arabs could run out of their oil, oil money and international influence. That day, some kind of compromise from both sides to mutually acceptable solution is possible. Look for a Jewish scientist who could find alternative energy solution to replace oil demand.
Show bobs and vagene that’s stupid we arabs and arab world have have the hardest time in our history so we’re very weak no and no don’t pray for the time that oil well end because we have 50% of the oil in the world if it ends it will be problem for everyone not just arabs including India you buy all your oil from ass and we have more than 10 million Indians work for as in golf state
M Ah Did you read comments carefully specially my last lines? I said that alternative energy resources (other forms of energy resources) which could replace oil demand in the world. *Oil is Arab's biggest blessing and biggest curse* Think about it. All these problems wouldn't have existed in Arab countries if oil resources were not discovered in Arab countries. Arabs may have lived poor lives but lived peacefully without foreign interventions and terrorism. India spends lot of reserved foreign currency for buying oil. Alternative energy resources would save India's dependence on Arab countries and messy international geo-politics. Millions of Indians workers could be employed in India as Indian economy grows.
I am sure AIPAC and all the Israel lobby's all throughout the Western world would be laughing at such nonsense.
The irony is AIPAC and the Israel lobby is ultimately funded by Arab oil......see how long they would last without the petrodollar.
Ah the good old indian envy, the pure inferiority complex
Your souls are truly as ugly as your faces
*Why you can't live together with muslims peacefully* :
[Quran 5:51] "O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people."
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".
Turkey, or in its former name Byzantine, used to be completely christian until Islam slowly terrorized the christians away and now it's 99.8% muslims. Iran, or in its former name Persia, used to be zoroastrian until Islamic conquests conquered them and forced everyone to convert to Islam, today there are less than 200,000 zoroastrians in the world. Pakistan and Afghanistan used to be part of India. Egypt used to be Coptic christians - can you guess what happened?
Nowadays chrisitians and other non-muslims are being murdered by Muslims all over the world - boko haram in africa, abu sayaf in philipines etc...
Turkey and Byzantium were two completely different things. The Ottoman Turkish Empire was famously multi-ethnic and multi-confessional right up to the massacres in Asia Minor in WW1 and subsequent conflict with Greece.
"famously multi-ethnic and multi-confessional ..." do you have it in more ridiculous? please tell us how they treated dhimmis (i.e. non-muslims)?
"right up to the massacres in Asia Minor in WW1 and subsequent conflict with Greece." - yes remind everyone how the turks treated the Armenians will ya?
or maybe you'd like to enlighten us about the barbary wars (first was 1801-1805) where the northern african provinces of the Ottoman empire terrorized everyone:
"In March 1786, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). When they enquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:
It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once."
Or Gadol Just curious...
Why did Zionists choose the Middle East then?
Or Gadol
Quran is a lie
Once again Ralph, you're asking me a silly question that the simplest googling could answer.
Since you didn't respond me the last time, I'll provide you the same answer as before, as it seems to answer your questions by and large:
*The real reason why "a Jew from New York can return to Israel while a palestinian can not"*
The Jews have originated from the land of Israel - that is not merely according to the bible but according to history as well. History tells us that the Jews had a number of different kind of sovereignty forms over the land of Israel throughout over more than a millennia, that is, until the Romans expelled them.
We've already seen what happens to Jews when they live in the diaspora and have no country of their own (inquisitions, pogroms, holocaust, etc...).
Unlike the Jews, the "Palestinians" are Arab Muslims. That makes them eligible to belong to about 58 different states in the world 22 of which are Arab, all of which are muslims.
Unlike the Jews, Arabs originated from Arabia (which is not Israel) and reached Israel only after the Islamic conquests began, therefore they may have the right to return to Saudi Arabia *but not to Israel* .
Furthermore, when the UN partition to palestine was declared it only specified two states - one for the Arabs and one for the Jews. The Arabs have already took Jordan, the Jews got Israel - the Jews had to fight for Israel with more than 5 Arab countries at once as the latter rejected letting the Jews have a state, since the Jews won a war they did not started and the Arabs lost, the Arabs don't deserve more than they have.
Another anecdote, the term "palestinians" was historically (before 1948) referring to Jews living in pre-state Israel (for instance the palestine post was a Jewish newspaper which later became the Jerusalem post). The Arabs have started using the term palestinians for their own only a few decades ago, when they reached a conclusion that as "palestinians" they could raise claims to Israel.
Just look for it on the Internet - there has never been an arab "palestinian" people, nor such country, nor a language or a race.
You didn't make peace with Egypt and Jordan ... You made peace with the decorators ... Big deference if not the opposite 🙃
Im a jew and i play football with arabs☺️
Proud zionist you are an AI program and you play football with real human why you do that leave the human alone
As long as there's a Tora and a Quran there can't be such a state. The problem is not the biNATIONAL, it's the biFAITH. As long as Person A has the BELIEF that god granted them the right to the same land as Person B, then there's no point in talking about "same rights" and stuff?
You'd need to have fully secular sides, both of them, so that everybody can feel really equal in the scenarios you took as example. So if you were an ethnic jew and the new country had an ethnic palestinian as a PM you'd have nothing to fear because the value of ethnicity has a limit. The value of a person's religion doesn't. It'd be very different if you were even an ethnic jew or arab palestinian and you were ruled by a religious mulsim palestinian or a religious jew. You'd always be fearing (and probably with good reason) that policies of STATE are being derived from religious positions.
The second guy also made a number of valid points BUT Jews aim to make the world a better place? Hmm...some do and some don't and this is where groupthink goes wrong. In this way, many Jews love doing what many Poles love doing, i.e. collective mentality approach. Well, neither are as homogeneous as they think when it comes to certain opinions/stances.
All western powers want to make the world a better place over the dead bodies of the poor and benighted people in the world.
There's hardly any area of life they won't get involved in, from child marriage, FGM, equality before the law, secuarism and GLBT+ rights.
Mark Simons Your 2nd sentence maybe I misunderstand you but that means protecting human rights, and you think that's wrong?
what jewish state ? 4:04 that man is a joke...did he know pharisee have very low ranks against Jesus n mohamed son of ishmael..both are holy children.. people go for God becouse of Saints sons of abraham.. not pharisees
Who's this SOB calling "so called refugees." Hundreds of thousands of even the first generation ones who were born there are still alive including my parents and grandparents and they and their kids definitely have the right to move back to where they were born. That's a right guaranteed by international law everywhere around the world.
People just don't think enough about the implications of having Muslim majority in Israel. It will never work between the two groups! They both want to have their own country where they can have self-determination and live their life according to their own traditions, culture and language. Israelis love their freedoms, their women rights and their gay parades, and the Muslims will make a stop to all this! Two states is the only way!
Muslims live perfectly fine all over the world in countries with all those things you mentioned. As long as they have the basic human rights that they are currently denied I think they'll be just fine. The two state solution is an excuse used by Israel to stick to the status quo and slowly make people forget about the Palestinian cause. And the two state solution has been killed by the illegal settlements. Also South Africa managed to do it so there's no excuse. Whatever happens the apartheid must end now.
No, that's not true. Muslims are a disaster for Western countries. You can't be openly gay in muslims neighboorhoods, even not in Berlin.
The big fear of these Israelis is being overrun by returning Palestinian refugees. The refugees fled when Palestine was overrun by Jewish immigrants.
When you say Israelis: Would you agree to a binational state? Do you mean Jews: Would you agree to a binational state? I don't think the Palestinian Israelis would not, not agree! A Christian Israeli, Muslim Israeli or Druze Israeli. When you say Israel you do mean the "Jewish state" right?
i like that a bunch of europeans came to palestine based on a fable from the bible and now they're telling us who can live there and who can't.. this is the biggest sickest joke in the world.
like a bunch of arabs islams came to israel based on fable of quran and now telling us who in charge and who to pay jizya,is the sickest nightmare in the world,oh wait,it happened already,coming again,prepare thyselfs
The Islamic expanse. So this is what will happen when Islam expands further.....there is no way out.
The guy at 17:10 has been educated very well...
I still believe that this is the only solution… and actually Israel isn’t realizing this but. It’s heading towards a binational state by its own doing… the onlyyyy way u will be a 2 state is if u go back to 1967 borders and stop Swiss cheesing their territories otherwise u won’t have a choice but a binational… binational is a better choice to me with set of rules…
lol i find his argument (19:16) palestinian third generation refugees are not refugees and not welcome to their lands, but the jew's who ( I take all of this at face value) were exiled in 100 ad have the right of return :)
4:28min: that’s not a dream, that’s a reality and you know it, just wait for it😉
Belgium? LOL Achi ....ummmm.....bad comparison my friend.
Put it to a vote
Guy at 4:34 sounds like Novak Djokovic.
4:34 and 14:06 these people get it.
While the second lady seemed to get a little confused at one point, she ended it well. Interesting how her experience living in Morocco probably gave her more perspective on the possibility of living with Muslims/Arabs in peace and with equal rights. I think when she got confused she was thinking he was mentioning people from Syria and other countries actually moving there, rather than Palestinians.
Speak to the refugees in jordan
Best one The morocan lady
I have an honest question to anyone who lives outside Israel, whould you accept your country( UK, USA, India,Russia, Canada) as a binational state?
no.. scotland want to leave UK> Catalonia wants to leave spain
what do you mean? UK, US, India, Canada already are multinational
Israel belongs to the Eskimos.
Vulkan Of Nocturne ??????????????????????????????????
yrm159 Eskimos had first dips
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yrm159 Why don’t you & ur Palestinian brothers give this land back to the real
Natives - the glorious Eskimos.
David Miles They are moving in during the summer. Hopefully Israel & Palestine prepare ice-conditioned igloos for them.
Binational wouldn’t work. Why? Because the views are just too different.
LGBT rights
Womens rights
Legal systems
Etc
17:56 did that "teacher" ever heard that the udder of a cow is kosher, even if it's milk and meat mixed ?
And we may argue for binational state, but supervised by the UN.
Thus, like for two kids fighting for the same toy, i just took away the toy and put it the trash, so no one can argue that this mine.
if supervised by the UN :
pros :
1)the both sides can argue nothing
2)avoiding the problem of majority since the UN is in control
3)if the UN create an efficient authority over this state, we may have a power which can be objective and neutral
needed :
1) The UN needs to have a special commision working as a governement with a head of state and not as a council (because of efficiency)
2) This particular governement needs to be extremely punitive, so no one would ever try to harm other communities (even if that's mean death penalty or life sentence in prison for attempting to murder for example) (yea that's sound paradoxal for the UN to pronounce death penalty)
3) this governement needs to understand EVERY social group and their differences to be able to answer those needs
cons :
1)the both sides will agree on something at least that taking away "their" toy pissed them off equally (and their politics will never abondon their privileges)
2) A majority of people will not recognize this governement
3) Where do you put all the arsenal of Israel ? (which includes nuke head)
4) How do you deal with the general extremism that may explodes into a civil war ?
5) Do we force people to live in mixed area to create a better state coercion ?
6) Man, you're sure to put the UN on this, whereas they sit and do nothing about syria or other country in the middle east ?
are people suggesting solutions as such actually want to see the violence stop? or is it only their sense of rightfulness speaking?
binational state, where around 4m pal will get voting rights and could freely travel around israel will be the beginning of a very long bloody era in this small strip of land, otherwise we wouldn't need the separation wall and it wouldn't be so effective.
some people are willing to gamble this horrific idea just to show everyone that we are the good guys that tried absolutely anything to end the violence, some will even do it knowingly it will cause more blood shade, but they just have to show to the world we are ok, cant find the right words describing my thoughts on that.
politically, there is no real solution other then total separation of the two people, one must leave.
reality is a bitch.
we lebanese christians and muslims are living side by side, sure there is very few intermarriages but christians have 50% of the seats and muslims have the other 50%. so basically we are a binational state
Jewish Dissident Right we fought for 15 years because we christians had more power, but after the peace agreement power was split 50/50 president must be maronite christian, prime minister sunni muslim and speaker of the house shia muslim
Jewish Dissident Right i totally agree with that the march 8 alliance and march 14 alliance dont get along. mostly corruption is the problem, not religion
Muslims Runs Lebanon, I doubt that if Christians had any power they would allow Hezbollah to roam freely building up bases to attack Israel.
WhatEverDude Lebanon will be good if Israel stop attacking her every 10 years and without Muslims golf stats won’t give money so the sunni government that rebuild Lebanon in 82 and 2000 and 2006 and Muslims didn’t take Lebanon Lebanon still Muslims and christians the president is christian for a state that had so much wars have more then 2.5 million refugees she’s very good
WhatEverDude dont talk about things you dont know. half or 45% of the population is christians the rest are muslim and druze. maronie christians are the majority with 35% of the population shia muslims are 27% of the population. our president is christian so basically christians are running the country. however, nearly 50% of the seats are for hezbollah. the other 50% is for the christians. so dont talk about something you dont know
That worked really well for Lebanon, didn’t it? Besides Israel IS a binational state. 20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs. But you can’t have a large percentage of the population who don’t want the state to exist.
Isn't that what you guys want to do to the Palestinians! How can you guys claim to be God's people and have such hatred for your fellow brothers.
Like asking if you believe in suicide
Jordan is their share of Palestine ...its as simple as that.
Heaven help us if there were a bi-national state in the whole of mandatory Palestine. They'd end up in the same s**thole that Jordan now finds itself.
New York is your share....its as simple as that
@@chugalongway01 -the desert of arab islam is urs,enjoy
I sugest many states solution.
Everybody has weapons.
Everybody choose what government they wan to follow. People pay taxes to que government they choose.
second guy admitted theres an occupation and is RACIST lol also said lots of nonsense
GREAT TURBULANCE INNA BELGIUM!!!
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Your nephew is right... No solution will lead to a binational state.
The two state solution is however not possible with the settlement enterprise having destroyed it..
So.....???
*---* *THE FACTS ABOUT THE PALESTINIANS* *---*
There has never been such a country called Palestine. Israel was re-formed on land previously ruled by the Ottoman empire, similarly to other countries in the region such as Lebanon, Iraq and others. There is no such thing as "Palestinian people". It's worth noting that newspapers such as the 'Palestine post' were Jewish newspapers (this one for example turned into the 'Jerusalem post'). This is also true about other official "Palestine" related stuff from the time before Israel was re-formed. Hebrews were the majority in Jerusalem even before the birth of the Zionist movement in the 19th century. If someone happened to use the term "Palestine" before the re-formation of Israel, he was referring to the homeland of the Jevvs (the land of Israel) - not the Arabs. It's worth noting that the flag of the "Palestinian Authority" is the flag of Hejaz.
The British Mandate over the land, after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, actually included also what is now Jordan (which includes the "east bank" - part of historic Israel), and according to the League of Nations (precursor of the UN), this Mandate was to become a national homeland for the Jevvs (the Arabs would get their own independent lands in all the rest of the greater middle-east, an area which makes the land of Israel insignificant in comparison). Note that according to the UN's constitution, all the past resolutions of the League of Nation are valid.
The British Authorities, due to their own interests with the Arabs (among others - future oil dealings), gave them 77% of the land - which later became what is now Jordan. There are over 20 Arab countries, and almost 60 lsIamic countries - each on average way bigger than Israel, but the Arabs couldn't tolerate the existence of tiny Israel, even after being given most of the land of the mandate. Instead, they tried to annihilate it by force with the Arab armies the moment it was officially independent (and have attempted to do so several times again since then).
The coIoniaI term "Palestine" was discarded after it was brought to life under the British rule, as it should have been, because the original name for the land - Israel, has been restored (Israel is not Palestine, just like Jerusalem is not Aelia-Capitolina, and Schehem is not Nablus).
It is only in the mid 1960's that the Arabs hijacked the term, and its widespread usage only took off after the 1967 Arab-Israeli war. the Arabs used this terminology as a political propaganda tool to de-legitimize Israel, after they failed to steal the Hebrew homeland by force with the Arab armies, by invading and attempting to conquer the land. Ironically, the term "Palestinian" originate from the term 'Pleshet' to describe INVADERS by the Hebrews. Those who willingly identify as "Palestinians" are declaring themselves to be invaders/colonizers in Hebrew land.
It's important to note that this propaganda tool was supported by the Communists/Soviets. On the other hand, just a few decades before that, the Arab "Palestinians" were hand in hand with the Nazis. They have aided them under the leadership of the mufti Amin Al-Husseini - who is often regarded as the 'founding father' of the Arab "Palestinians". During WW2 he became an SS general, but he had anti-Jewish genocidal ideology long before the Nazis rose the power. He has incited and caused violence and terror against the Jewish people in their homeland since the early 1920's (for example: 1929 Hebron massacre).
"Palestinians" are nothing more than bands of foreign invaders, squatters and illegal immigrants from all over the Islamic world - mostly the Arab world (some of them even originating from places that are not part of the middle-east, such as Bosnia), as well as several other places. The overwhelming majority of them first settled in the land of Israel in recent centuries - mostly in the 19th and 20th centuries. Some of them even came to Gaza, Judea and Samaria from Egypt and Jordan while these areas were under Egyptian and Jordanian occupation on the periods between 1948 to 1967.
Informative quotes from Arab "Palestinian" leaders:
"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the bible ...Palestine is ALIEN to us" - Arab "Palestinian" leader Awni Abdul Hadi, Peel Commission, 1937.
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity... Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan." - Arab "Palestinian" leader & PLO member Zuheir Mohsen, 1977.
"I don’t think there is 'Palestinian People', I don’t think there is a 'Palestinian Nation' at all… 'Palestinian Nation'? I think that is a colonial invention. When were there ever 'Palestinians'?" - Arab "Palestinian" leader Azme Bishara, TV Interview.
"We all have Arab roots, and every Palestinian in Gaza and throughout Palestine can prove his Arab roots - whether from Saudi Arabia, Yemen or anywhere else." "... Half the Palestinians are (Arab) Egyptians and the other half are (Arab) Saudis" - Arab "Palestinian" Hamas minister Fathi Hammad, 2012.
Here are some common "Palestinian" families and their place of origin:
Saudi, Al-Husseini, Al-Hassan, Hijazi, Tamimi, Erekat, Barghouti, Qureshi, Badawi - Saudi Arabia
Yamani, Azad - Yemen
Haddadins - Yemen (Ghassanids)
Masri, Masrawa, Tartir, Bardawil, Fayumi - Egypt
Abu Kishk, Shakirat, Zabidat, Aramsha, Abu Sitta, Abu Sutta, Shaalan - Egypt (Bedouins)
Turki, Sultan, Uthuman - Turkey
Iraqi, Baghdadi, Faruqi, Tachriti, Zoabi, Abbas - Iraq
Nashashibi, Hurani, Allawi, Halabi - Syria
Lubnani, Tarabulsi, Sidawi, Surani - Lebanon
Bushnak - Bosnia
Khamis - Bahrain
Afghani - Afghanistan
Mughrabi - Maghreb
Araj - Morocco
Djazair - Algeria
Kurd - Kurdistan
Hindi - Indian Subcontinent
Abid - Sudan
Yasser Arafat, the most famous "Palestinian" and leader of the PLO terrorist organization, was not native to Judea. He called himself a "Palestinian refugee" but spoke Arabic with an Egyptian accent. He was born in 1929 Cairo, Egypt. He served in the Egyptian army, studied in the University of Cairo, and lived in Cairo until 1956! His full name was Mohammed Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat Al-Qudwa Al-Husseini.
Yasser Arafat also proudly stated in his authorized biography that: "If there is any such thing as a Palestinian people, it is I, Yasser Arafat, who created them."
Genetic data for "Palestinians":
According to a 2010 study by Behar et al. Palestinians tested clustered genetically close to Bedouins, Jordanians and Saudi Arabians which was described as "consistent with a common origin in the Arabian Peninsula".
A study found that the Palestinians, have what appears to be Female-Mediated gene flow in the form of Maternal DNA Haplogroups from Sub-Saharan Africa. Palestinian individuals tested, carried maternal haplogroups that originated in Sub-Saharan Africa. The explanation for the presence of predominantly female lineages of African origin in these areas is that they trace back to women brought from Africa as part of the Arab slave trade, assimilated into the areas under Arab rule.
In a genetic study of Y-chromosomal STRs in two populations from Israel and the Palestinian Authority Area: Christian and Muslim Palestinians showed genetic differences.
A 2013 study of Haber and et al. found that "The predominantly Muslim populations of Syrians, Palestinians and Jordanians cluster on branches with other Muslim populations as distant as Morocco and Yemen."
The authors explained that "religious affiliation had a strong impact on the genomes of the Levantines. In particular, conversion of the region's populations to Islam appears to have introduced major rearrangements in populations' relations through admixture with culturally similar but geographically remote populations leading to genetic similarities between remarkably distant populations."
Even the Quran:
And thereafter We (Allah) said to the Children of Israel: "Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd" [17 : 104]
O my people (Jevvs)! Enter the Holy Land, which God has assigned unto you [5 : 21]
We (Allah) settled the Israelites in a blessed land and provided them with good things [10 : 93]
It was our (Allah's) will to favor those who were oppressed (Jevvs) and to make them leaders of man, to bestow on them a noble heritage and to give them power in the land (of Israel) [28 : 5-6]
We (Allah) gave the persecuted people (Jevvs) dominion over the eastern and western lands which We had blessed (the east and west banks of the Jordan River). Thus your Lord's gracious word was fulfilled for the Israelites, because they had endured with fortitude [7 : 137]
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*-------* *THE ORIGIN AND MEANING OF THE TERM PALESTINE* *-------*
The origin for the term Palestine is a term to describe INVADERS by the Hebrews. Anyone who willingly identify himself as a "Palestinian" declares himself to be a colonizer/invader in Hebrew land.
The Philistines were an ancient sea-faring people who invaded the coast of ancient Israel from the islands of the area of the Aegean Sea. The term Philistines was not their actual name or the original term used to describe them - it is nothing more than a later bastardized term in English that holds no real meaning.
The original name of what they were called, comes from how they were called by the Hebrews - which was not their actual Aegean name, but a term that was derived from what they were - invaders. The name was Plishtim, and the small area they colonized on the coast of the land of Israel was called Pleshet (which basically meant 'area/land of invaders', and parallels to the English term Philistia). These words hold meaning, as they come from the root-word to describe INVADERS in Hebrew (and indeed the Philistines were invaders in Hebrew land). Philistia was only a very small strip of land on the coast that the Philistines managed to capture from the Hebrews and occupy it (note that this small territory had never reached near places like Jerusalem, Hebron and other places in Judea and Samaria).
Due to their fighting with the Israelites, and due to the Assyrian conquests, the Babylonian conquests who came later, the Philistines went completely extinct more than 2600 years ago. What remained of them has been completely assimilated into the nations of the region, and what little remained of them in the land of Israel has assimilated into the Hebrews.
The Philistines were actually part of a larger group of people that were known as the "Sea People" (Because they invaded from the sea), who also invaded other lands (such as Egypt).
The term Palestine is a bastardized English term, which comes from the bastardized Roman coIoniaI term Palestina for Pleshet (what we now call Philistia) - which itself comes from a bastardized Greek term for Pleshet, and in the end originate from Pleshet (what we now call Philistia).
The term was first implemented by the Romans after the final Jevvish-Roman war around 135 CE. The merciless Romans decided that mass ethnic-cleansing, massacre and slavery of Jevvs wasn't enough - they would rename the province of Judea into Palestina in order to further humiliate the Jevvs by renaming their homeland after their ancient enemies (the Philistines), and attempting to erase Jevvish connection to land.
Throughout the centuries this foreign coIoniaI term was forgotten and was no longer in use. The Ottomans, who ruled the land for centuries up until the end of the first World War did not make use of the term.
When the British took control over the land after World War 1 they revived/popularized the incorrect and coIoniaI term Palestine, but even then it wasn't simply known as "Palestine", but as 'Palestine (Land of Israel)'. It was obvious to the British authorities that the land was the homeland of the Jevvs - the land of Israel, and "Palestine" was simply a technical/geographical term, not a term related to any "Palestinian people".
Modern-day Arab "Palestinians", most of which have first come to the land of Israel as recently as the 19th and 20th centuries, have nothing to do with the ancient Aegean Philistines from thousands of years ago (that went completely extinct a several centuries after their invasion to the land of Israel, more than a thousand years before Islam was even created), expect that they were both foreign invaders in Hebrew land and the term they (the Arabs) adopted, which originate from the term to describe INVADERS in the native tongue of the land - Hebrew.
The adoption of the term "Palestinians" (as a new identity) by the Arabs happened only in the mid 1960's (and took off after the 1967 war), as part of an attempt to de-legitimize Israel through false propaganda after they failed stealing the homeland of the Hebrews from them by force with the invading Arab armies. This Plan, which was aided by the Communists/Soviets actually worked quite well for them (as we can see today) due to bias, stupidity, and ignorance, of people around the world.
Despite the success of their anti-Israel propaganda, by identifying as "Palestinians" they (ironically) declare themselves to be invaders in Hebrew land. Another absurd thing is the fact that Arabs can't even pronounce 'p' in their own language (it does not exist in Arabic, and they end up pronouncing it as 'f' or 'b'), thus being unable to properly pronounce their own "original" name for their own "original" invented nation, in their own language.
You can clearly see the sheer hypocrisy, absurdity and dishonesty of Arab "Palestinians", who often complain about Western imperiaIism, in their misuse/propaganda/perpetuation of the foreign coIoniaI term "Palestine" in order to promote their goal of implementing their Arab-lsIamic imperiaIism in Judea.
Israel is not and never has been "Palestine", just as Jerusalem is not Aelia-Capitolina (another foreign term introduced by the Romans - a name that comes from the family name of the Roman emperor Hadrian. The Arabs, who came later and did not know any better, first called it Aelia, not Al-Quds - which is a bastardized Arab term from the Hebrew term HaQdosha), and Schehem is not Nablus (a bastardized Arab term for Neapolis - another foreign colonial term).
Today, Jerusalem's holiness to Sunni MusIims as the third most holy city, is based on a late and political interpretation of a Quranic verse. To Shi'ite MusIims, the third holiest city, ranked below Mecca and Medina, is the city of Najaf in southern Iraq.
Early lsIamic sources state that the "Al Aqsa Mosque" (literal meaning: 'the farther mosque'), mentioned only once in the Quran, was one of two mosques located near Ji'irrana, a village located between Mecca and Taif in Hejaz. One of the mosques was called "al-Masjid al-Adna", meaning the "closer mosque" and the other "al-Masjid al-Aqsa", the "farther mosque". When the Quran refers to the Al Aqsa mosque while telling the story of Muhammad's night time journey from the "holy mosque" of Mecca to Al Aqsa, that is, the "farther mosque", it is referring to the mosque in Ji'irrana.
It's also interesting to note the following Hadith:
Narrated Abu Dhar: I said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Which mosque was first built on the surface of the earth?” He said, “Al-Masjid-al-Haram.” I said, “Which was built next?” He replied “The mosque of Al-Aqsa.” I said, “What was the period of construction between the two?” He said, “Forty years.” - Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55, Number 585 ; Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55, Number 636
Al-Aqsa Mosque can't possibly be referring to the mosque which was built in Jerusalem decades after the time of Muhammad's death.
In 682 C.E., fifty years after Mohammed's death, Abdallah Ibn al-Zubayr, the tough man of Mecca, rebelled against the Umayyads who ruled Damascus and would not allow them to fulfill the Hajj in Mecca. Since the Hajj pilgrimage is one of the five basic lsIamic commandments, they decided to choose Jerusalem as their alternative for a pilgrimage site. In order to justify choosing Jerusalem, the Umayyads rewrote the story told in the Quran, moving the Al Aqsa mosque to Jerusalem, and adding, for good measure, the myth of the night time journey of Mohammed to al Aqsa. This is the reason the Sunnis now consider Jerusalem their third holiest city.
Shia lsIam, mercilessly persecuted by the Umayya Caliphate, did not accept the holy Jerusalem canard, which is the reason the third holiest city to Shi'ites is Najif in Iraq, the burial place of Shi'ite founder Ali bin Abi Talib. Many of the Shi'ite elders - Iranian and Hezbollah - only began to call Jerusalem holy after the Khomeni rebellion in 1979 so as to keep the Sunnis from accusing them of being soft on Israel.
The first lie, in that case, is the spurious claim that the "farther mosque" is in Jerusalem.
More lies were piled on to the first one, the main prevarication being the exact location of this so-called Al Aqsa mosque, which until not very long ago, was the silver-domed building on the southern end of the Temple Mount.
The entire area of the Temple Mount is known as al-Haram al-Sharif - "the holy and noble site"- but a change came about after the Six Day War, when Jevvish voices could be heard, calling for the establishment of a synagogue on the Mount. Immediately after the war, a prominent rabbi also said that he wanted to celebrate religious events on the Temple Mount. It was felt that the MusIims would not object, since Al Aqsa was on the southern edge of the compound and the synagogue would not be nearby.
As a result, however, the MusIims decided to announce that the Al Aqsa mentioned in the Quran refers not only to the mosque on the southern end of the compound, but is the name for the entire Temple Mount area, abandoning the original name, al-Haram al-Sharif. The renaming of the Temple Mount is clearly a canard, with two documents, one known and one less known, revealing the truth.
The source that is more widely known is a booklet prepared in 1924 by none other than the openly Jevv-hating (and later on an SS general) Mufti Hajj Amin Al-Husayni and reprinted many times in the years following its first publication. The booklet's title is "A Brief Guide to al-Haram al-Sharif - Jerusalem". Note that the area is not called Al Aqsa. The Al Aqsa Mosque appears as a chapter in the booklet, after the chapter on the Dome of the Rock, the golden-domed structure in the middle of the compound. It is clear that to Hajj Amin Al-Husayni, the Mufti of Jerusalem, the Al Aqsa Mosque was simply the silver-domed building on the southern end of the compound.
The lesser known of the two documents is an ordinary Jordanian tourist map of Jerusalem that was executed in 1965, two years before the 1967 Six Day War. At that time, East Jerusalem was still illegally occupied by the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, while the entire world kept silent and uttered not a word against this totally illegal occupation. The map was drawn by a Jordanian named Abd al-Rahman Rassas who worked as an official surveyor and was authorized by the Hashemite Tourism Authority of Jordan. The map bears the words: "recommended and approved by the official Jordanian Tourist Authority".
A perusal of the map shows that in 1965 the Temple Mount compound was still called "al-Haram al-Sharif", that it was on "Mount Moriah", and that the "Al Aqsa Mosque" was simply the silver-domed building on the southern end of al-Haram al-Sharif. In other words, thirty years before the peace agreement between Israel and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, the Jordanians identified Al Aqsa as no more than an edifice on the southern end of al-Haram al-Sharif, which in turn is built on Mount Moriah.
Those who lie and deceive in the name of lsIam decided to "expand" Al Aqsa - whose real location is actually in Ji'irrana (in Hejaz) - to encompass the entire Temple Mount area only after the Jevvs liberated the site of their Temples in the June 1967 Six Day War.
For example, Sheikh Ikrima Sabr, Mufti of Jerusalem 1994-2006, in a speech given on Friday, January 4th, 2002, said the following: "Oh ye MusIims (all over the world), when we talk about the blessed Al Aqsa Mosque, we mean a mosque whose area is 144 dunam (the size of al-Haram al-Sharif in its entirety) including the walls, the al-Buraq Wall (their name for the Western Wall), the passages, hallways, entrances and squares, in addition to the part that is roofed (the building in the southern end), the part that is ancient (under the roofed part) and the Foundation Stone (under the Dome of the Rock), the Marwani prayer site (Solomon's Stables), all are Al Aqsa…"
Another lie, revealed as such by the very same map, follows on the heels of this one. It concerns the site of the Jevvish Holy Temples. Some lsIamic preachers even claim nowadays that al-Haykal al-Maz'oum - "the supposed (Jevvish) Temple" - was never in Jerusalem. The Jordanian map puts paid to the lies of every one of these lsIamic orators.
Of course, those who deny the existence of the Temple in Jerusalem also simply contradict the well-established history of the land.
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There has never been such a country called Israel which was formed on land previously called Palestine and ruled by the Ottoman empire, similarly to other countries in the region such as Lebanon, Iraq and others. There is no such thing as "Jewish people". It's worth noting that they are really Polish, Russian, German, Iraqi, Morrocan, you fucking name it, it's Jewish. And you will not find one word in the "Mandate FOR Palestine" about Jewish sovereignty or a State called Israel, not one word.
The whole "Land Of Israel" game is 100% historical bullshit.
Middle East TRUTH So who were the people actually fighting alongside the British Empire to liberate Palestine from the Ottoman colonial rule?
Oh. I see.
Arabs.
So how many Jews died during WW1 fighting for their "promised land"?
Anthony Richards Uhm...interesting
And?
[Before you answer that, I suggest you google "causality". In other words relevancy to a specific point in time.
Then "false equivalence", i.e. an effort to compare things which are not the same]
السيدة التي كانت تشرب الكولا جميلة
Also, As for a binational state, Imagine their land gets annexed by Kurdish Zoroastrians or something “The Israeli-Palestinian Province of Kurdistan”
From your lips to gods ears.
Soar-ed Recreational Kurdistan doesn't exist yet to conquer others
Zengi Dynasty There are plenty of Zoroastrians & Yazidis in Iraqi & Turkish Kurdistan! Paganism has never fully died out amongst their people, as it has with other groups in the Middle East.
Never. There is one state and it is Israel. Period, no exceptions.
bi national state is the best solution
palestinians refugees an return home
and israelis can stay in in bi national state with eqaul right as palestinians
Two state solution is no't God's plan for Israel.God has given them the land for eternity any idea against the will of God it will bring Judgement.Joel.3:1-3;Am.9:14-15;Psalms.83:1-18;Ob.20(Holy Bible)
mebratu hagos Will see what the pharaoh god will do it's a war between this Jewish god and pharaoh god from the beginning and will see whos right
I've watched a load of these videos over the past few days, and I've realised that there will never be peace in Israel/Palestine unless one side disappears.
So Israel the ZIONIST state
1:34 I heared that in Hitlers voice....
Even behind him some German sentences ^^ what a coincidence
The second person has zero clue what he’s babbling about.
5:00 Israeli Armie Hammer?
Not at all
The second person after 1:00 summed it up pretty accurately. The problem with a binational state is that muslims don't want more jews move to Israel, and similarly jews don't want more muslims (arabs) move to Israel. So how could two such conflicting groups of people peacefully live under the same state, when they so much abhor the idea of the "other group" getting more immigrants to the state?
Another problem suggesting that Israel should not be a religious (Jewish) state but rather an non-religious one like USA or Australia is that it would really work if all the surrounding Arab and muslim countries (Morocco, Egypt, Algeria, Yemen, Saudi-Arabia, Iraq, Iran etc.) would also be non-religious states where jews and other non-muslims could live with full rights and no discrimination at all, which is not the case at the moment. Hundreds of thousands of jews fled from those countries to Israel.
It is just silly to suggest that the only jewish state in the whole world, Israel, should not be allowed to be a jewish state, and at the same time it is surrounded by (hostile) religious muslim countries, where non-muslims are oppressed minorities, if even that. Just ask the kopti Christians living in Egypt.
For other big world religions, there are such states. In Europe Christianity is still the majority (and it is even a state religion in some European countries, and Russia too), there are lots of muslim countries, there are several buddhist countries, there is India for hindus (dividing muslims and hindus to Pakistan and India was a great decision from the Brits) etc. So why shouldn't there be a jewish state as well?
Question for Palestinians: What do you think of the Arabs in Israel?
Jonathan Zaitoun there have no right specially with the new lows Jewish state low the Israeli government treat them like enemy we just look at them like brothers like other arabs we even feel sorry for them they think now they live good because its more safe and they lessen to Israeli coverment tha combers theme with Syrians and Iraqis even there Israelis when i ask any of them how the living in jews they always say they just work with them and that there races some Of my friends work in Israel he said that the arabs almost have no rights they just can work but no schools like jews hospitals parks streets or any of that jews live in first world city’s arabs live in atherd world city
Israeli Arabs have equal rights.. Maybe you meant the Arabs who are living outside Israel proper but under the Palestinian Authority?
Speak to the refugees
To help support you, you want people to donate $1 a month and pay your bills? Get a job!
Ya bc being a youtuber is not a job.. don't donate if u don't want to.. go meditate