The reason they're 650cc and not any bigger is to appeal to A2 license holders in Europe. The 650 engine produces exactly 35kw, the limit for the license. It's pretty clever in all honesty; they're utilising one of the oldest marques in the world with strong retro styling while paring down the spec and price. They're essentially making a big cheap retro bike for learners with some actual pretense of history with it, like a budget baby Bonneville.
Not only are the new Enfields pretty bikes at surprisingly attractive prices, performance appears to be respectable based on what little information I could dig up at this early stage. I wouldn't be surprised if they sell well. I once suggested that Triumph reintroduce a lighter weight lower priced kick-start 650cc Bonneville to augment their (at that time) 865cc air/oil cooled models. They promptly went to bigger liquid cooled twins instead so I'm delighted to see Enfield fill that niche.
Finally got my hands on a 650 Continental and just installed rear rack and crash bars. Still to install a handle bar and pipes that we made. So far been a great bike and still have a lot more riding to do..ride on
I would purchase their 650 Twin without question as I still have my 1976 Triumph T140V Bonneville 750 but she's really old now at 42 years. These British designed twins in my opinion are the finest motorcycles ever made for the street. Powerful, light, nimble, great handling and reliable.
650cc Parallel twins...with that firing angle...it's gonna be aggressive & intense touring motorcycles...hope company inspire riders to come out and make highway the way of life! eagerly waiting to get my legs on and feel the massive engine come to roar.
Its weird! Very few people that post comments actually own or have ridden a modern RE bike. I have owned my Continental for 2 years plus , love every mile and cannot wait to test the new 650 models . Seen Himalayan`s in the flesh and found them to be a well built bike with premium fittings and a finish to match the Japanese . However , the price tag is truly crazy!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously , don`t just slag it off from some remote keyboard , get off your backside , see it ,touch it and ride one.
It's just brand snobbery, if it was build in the UK and double the price people would be stepping on each other to own one, I hope the 650 does well, with the whole "cafe racer" bike scene in the UK atm, if someone builds a special 650 and it gets featured in the bike shed etc, these things will fly off the shelf, a brand new bike for the price of a used one, which can be customised with huge bill, RE should do a "shed build" with these like BMW and YAMAHA have in the past with they R nine T and V-max. I'd love to see some builders get their hands on them and go to town.
I had an India made Enfield 500. Once big truble with the ignition timer and little problems with the rear light. Good for long distance and daily driving.
Great bikes from India and nice to see the "Interceptor" name reintroduced ....the last British "Rickman" Interceptors were scary fast to say the least!!
I owned an RE 750 Interceptor back in 1968, very fast and BEAUTIFUL but poor quality and no parts or dealers. i hope the new company does a better job. This new one looks more like an old Norton Commando.
Royal Enfield going 650 instead of 750 had nothing to do with power like going 350 , 500 to 650.. It had to do with taxes in other countries . A lot of countries any motorbike over 700cc is absurdly taxed and expensive to insure .. 650cc was the smartest choice to sell more motorbikes.
And you can also tel that the customer targeted by Royal Enfield rather goes with reliability than horsepower. So a 650 would consume less fuel in a trip and Maybe generates less heat. Thats all about Royal Enfield. Smart and simple engineering that is easy and cheap to upkeep. A Bike that can last for years (or many miles). I like sport bikes Like KTM's Duke (2018) and some other like Yamaha R's and Ducati but lets be honest: Sports bike just CANT DEAL with time. They age FAST and lose value FAST. This kind of Bike is the oposite. It stands the test of time.
I had HD Street 750. 750 is underpowered. So there is no difference to 750 and 650 - both give the smooth run and those extra 20-30 km/h to cruising speed which are missing in 500 models. So yes 650 is absolutely NOT inferior to 750.
Royal Enfield is about the worst reliable bike out there. I hope at least they fixed their starter sprag clutch which has been a continual known problem for 15 years.
More than 70 years we Indians helped to sustain the company so now RE should think of bringing optional values for us like optional EFI, ABS in 350 CC, most of us can bear the extra cost to ensure better experience and safety.
Made in India but all the research done in UK...it is still a colonial product from the design point of view..the R&D centre is in UK and not in India...only manufacturing done in India...that's it
I own a RE Classic 500 and love it. I would have upgraded for a 750CC with more hp. Unfortunately, 650 is just not enough of a jump for me to consider the upgrade. Also - I used to find more RE dealers when it was handled by the previous distributor (I live in Central PA - USA). Now - not so easy to find an authorized dealer. The bikes look cool though... and I do enjoy riding the 500.
Use synthetic oil, change it at the recommended interval, o and get rid of the lug a log exhaust. Can't hear the tappets on mine, mainly due to the exhaust throb.
My bike started producing tapet noice even before the time for my second service. Complaint raised on the issues to RE service center and no result found. I hope this is same for above 70% I know. Reply I got from RE showroom is " the tapet noise will be there, it is regular" what do I felt is , I gave almost 1.75 lakhs and bought a bullshit instead of bullet.
Gently increase the rpm from idle, does the 'tappet' noise disappear as soon as the rpm leaves idle? If it does the noise is probably the decompresser weight in the exhaust cam rattling due to very low idle speed or rough running at idle. If the noise gradually reduces with increased rpm or doesn't change, service the bike, change the oil and filter, clean the oil pump suction screen as well. Then refill with 15W 50 Full Synthetic quality oil. I don't know what oil they use where you are but in Australia the oil installed by the dealers is used up within 1000 km and the engine rattles like a demon, and gear shifts are hard with lots of neutrals. Synthetic oil makes a massive difference. Ray
One RE dealership in Alberta, Canada and RE isn't even showing up to the Edmonton bike show this weekend! I really like the look of the Conti but it wouldn't make sense for me to sell my Triumph T100 , just based on looks. The one dealer, in Calgary (350Km away) said they might not see the twins until June.
I paid my deposit, but nobody can tell me when the bikes will arrive in UK dealers, maybe they'll arrive at the start of the british monsoon (October) it's driving me nut's😣
i think RE should have made two CC segment for each models for different countries in india 650 is lots of CC even though superbikes like hayabusa,r1,panegale is being sold in india but it is not in use cause they are made for speed and even if the road is not well then where you gonna ride on high speed and the road is still in underdeveloped in india in some part of the country......But for American RE should have made between 800- 1200 CC cause US has a great road lots of people meets accident with small CC like 200, 390 in india
A nice looking machine but I too wish it was a 750 or 800 or more- the original Interceptors were 736 cc so sacrilege to call it "Interceptor", but realistically my 650 cc BSA has lots of power (as much or more than my later Triumph 750 twin, the EPA has reduced power so car and bike makers have to make the engine bigger to maintain the same power so in the overall picture just as much fuel is used.) I might buy one or wait to see if they offer a 750 in a year or three. The low price is attractive, I was going to buy a new Triumph 1200 twin.
Other countries have HP and displacement limits on their licensing, so a 650 is a good balance for the export market since RE can probably not afford several lines for different markets. They may never be big in the US, but we're just one market. As for 650, HD could never build a stock bike to beat the Bonneville. People remember the classic 650's so there will be people buying these. BTW HD builds a 500 and 750 mostly for export. A '69 bonneville will still beat these new Harley's, too.
I think part of it is so many vertical twin classic motorcycles were of this displacement. The Triumphs, BSAs and the old Yamaha 650XS from the early 70's.
I see the influence of classic displacement from the past along with the practical taxation size. What's surprising to me is the power output - this is an ohc engine built with modern tech support and computer aided design. Seems like ~60 horsepower would have been easily attainable and would go over better.
The tax part is UK related, so I can't comment, being in India. The question on power output is valid. Royal Enfield seems to be confused about the market that they want to address. Any which way, 650 CC and the power and torque figures just don't appeal
The bikes look and sound fantastic but they need more power. I appreciate them wanting to stay air cooled but really, 47bhp was ok in 1955 but you're not going to sell very many with that these days. Now put 75bhp in it and i'd be interested.
Sounds good. But as long as there's only one RE dealer anywhere near me, and that one's over 40 miles away and has only 3 identical 500 singles in stock, RE isn't going to be a viable option for me.
You could call that dealership on the phone and request them to arrange a specific model that you want to buy even if that RE dealer isn't selling them. RE has an option where you call the dealership and request for the model you want to buy and they'll ship it out to that RE dealership for you. But the only thing is they won't ship it just so you can try it out. But I'm sure if you have a friend or something who has that specific model you want. You could just talk to him and ride his one around a bit and get a feel or it and if you're interested in buying it then just contact that dealership and they can arrange for it to be sent.
I have the same problem, I mean, I'm not worried about reliability so I don't need a dealer on my doorstep, but... the only bikes they have are the 500's and they won't have any 650's till october at the earliest :/
That's the same gripe indians have about companies like ducati, triumph, Harley & the rest. Companies should tie up with the local brands of the country to bring service & spare parts.
how 'bout a 998cc v twin? ruclips.net/video/hYzuqAX2A3A/видео.html I met this man and saw and heard this machine. A far cry from the OCC crew. I also own, and restored, a 1970 RE Interceptor. I am looking forward to the new Interceptor. I am still looking for the 6 speed gearbox specifications/ratios. I wish RE well,in this brave endeavor....
nice bikes, I learnt to ride on my RE in 1969 - But sadly, these new ones are lacking in innovative design, particularly in the seating and frame construction, just look at the thinness of the seat and the steel frame under the seat, a horrible exposed frame that your legs are resting on. Back to the drawing board.
Looking forward to seeing one of those new 650 twins someday in the flesh. I wonder how I can get a couple of those beer cozies laid around the bike?--one for my drink, and one to keep my Royal Enfield Bullet 500ES single from vibrating my balls off.
BilgemasterBill Lmao mate these things will never stop vibrating. Personally I've given up looking through the side view mirrors as I see nothing but shaking glass. Cheers on your endeavour though
The bike is beautiful and the price is right. Unfortunately it's way to underpowered for the US market. The original Interceptor was a 750, why go backwards? The Bullets already have a bad reputation in the US for being lead sleds, why not break out of that? Look what happened to the Kawasaki W650; it was a flop so Kawasaki dropped it and them brought it back as the W800. All the difference in the world. Save all the re-tooling expense and the bad PR. Bring this to the states as a 750.... or 850, even better.
Wow so many Americans are getting annoyed by the guy saying Himalayan, He is using the correct pronunciation because the bike is Indian, that's how it's said in India... I don't see Americans caring about pronunciation when they try to say Jaguar...
OK, lets see. Trying to get pronunciation via text is a bit hit and miss. Do you, or do you not agree with how the American in the video says Himalayan?
Hope they suceed. No dealers near here yet. Should bring out a 750/800 I just don't buy the "step up" logic we all went from 125/250s to big bikes no intimidation.
Very good point. I was immersed in the business and sport back in the big wave of the '60s and '70s and those were the real beginner sizes leading to steps up. This current view of 750s and such as "small", beginner sizes is very misleading if not actually a bit dangerous considering all the adjustments a person makes to riding with a safety margin.
They're already the largest motorcycle company in the world, they'll do just fine, only reason they will be dropped from certain markets is due to snobbery. If the bike was made in the UK and sold at double the price it'd sell like hot cakes, silly really, the 650 looks smart as hell.
I can't get sound unfortunately. But if they are saying something like Himarlian, with the stress on the 'ar', then that is correct and the way the Indians say it.
I have a Baja Avenger 2016 220 Cruise stored at friends place near Kochi. Is this what you were referring to or the new 400. I have been looking at the new 400 and it is a very nice bike. Advanced yet a cruiser. 6 Speed shifter as well as disk brakes front and aft. Only a single cylinder (Would be much nicer if it were twin) but it is using the dominar engine I think so both bike share same engine so repairs (Which will be few and cheap as this is a good engine) should be good. All the best!!
Too bad about the tank’s pinch-weld . . . makes it look like an old tin toy. Of course, Enfield isn’t the only manufacturer that succumbs to this aesthetic blemish, but it doesn’t raise the bar either . . .
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Alejandro Hernandez Hay que exigir mejores productos. El dinero es la mejor voz. En cuanto más crezca el mercado de las motocicletas, más competencia va a haber, y, evidentemente, el que mejor las haga, va a acaparar el mercado. O eso debería pasar en teoría, porque existe otro factor... el precio de las cosas... y por eso Italika es de las marcas más vendidas aquí 😒. Esforcémonos y compremos motos de buena calidad, y así las marcas chinas e indias ( y de todo el mundo), tendrán que subir sus estándares de calidad si desean tener presencia en nuestro mercado.
American riders want large cc touring bikes. While the 650 cc is good for many people looking to buy a first bike without spending a lot of money, a 750 cc or higher is better suited to the American highway and open roads. RE will not be able to compete in the US market against Japanese, US and European bikes.
Sunil Thomas--- Really, how many bikes DO you see here in the U.S. on open roads? Not many and they're primarily Harleys and big Japanese 'touring' bikes. Most riders here buy a bike for fun, not the long, boring highway ride. It's also hard to justify spending more than 10 Grand on a bike, that's why there's a LOT more sales volume under the 10 K threshold than above it.
@Alex: My first bike after high school was a 450 Honda Nighthawk. It was used and cheap. However, when I am on the NJ Turnpike and sharing the road with a truck, I felt I didn't have enough power to get around them or out of their way. Now I have a 900 cc bike for that very reason. I have biked in Europe and in India, where this is manufactured, where most of the riding is city riding and gas prices are more expensive. If I lived there, I would get a smaller bike. You can get a used touring bike for less than $5000 on Craigslist. Maybe you don't like long highway rides, but I do and I think most Americans do.
Sunil Thomas--- Sunil, I think we're beating a dead horse here. My point is this: no ONE make/model is going to make every one happy. I used to be a Triumph freak, owning several at different times (out of over 30 different bikes that I've owned) but would I buy a new one? Oh, hell no! Too big, too expensive, and the older I get (I'm 72 now) the smaller the bike I'd want. I've lost interest in my '67 BSA THunderbolt because it's too big & cumbersome for my tastes. Come spring it's going up for sale to be replaced by something smaller, say no bigger than a 400. Point? Tastes change, needs change, lifestyles change. I don't see any one model of bike satisfying anybody for long. But if I was younger I could see myself hopping right on that Enfield 650.
I agree, I'm 55 now and have a BMW K100RT. In a few years, I will be hanging up my helmet, because I don't get much time to use my bike much. I always get nervous on a lighter bike when I have to share the highway with trucks.
Sunil Thomas--- Remembering my youth, the very first time I drove a motorcycle was when I borrowed a friend's Honda 50 Sport (it was in 1961). It was just for a quick ride around the block, a very LARGE block, though. On the back straight, out of sight of the bike's owner, I rapped it out all the way, and screaming along at top speed (50 mph) and laying down on the tank, I fell instantly in love. In subsequent years I went on to own about 3 dozen motorcycles, but none was as exciting to ride as that very first ride. So now I'm going back. Smaller is better and 60 mph on the right road is as exciting as 100 mph on a highway. I also encounter fewer trucks that way, too. Luckily, I escaped the city and moved to a small town (pop. 25,000) a couple of years ago, so that's easy for me to do. (By the way, the best all-around bike made, in my opinion, was the R-90. Good luck finding one available, though.)
The quality of RE motorcycles keeps going up. I have a Continental GT 535 (2017) and have had no quality issues at all. These new 650's have been well tested, and should be quite reliable I would think.
The thing is... a royal enfield will go forever, however they build so many a year that a few are likely to be sub par, the bike is so cheap though that you could buy one, strip it down, rebuild it and you'd still have a cheap bike which you knew was built to a high standard.
The best way to answer your question is to go here forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php?board=19.0 and do a lot of reading. I doubt there is anything that hasn't gone wrong with a Royal Enfield. The two main issues are the really cheap metal they are made of, and very poor assembly quality. Pieces of shop rags have been found inside new engines. Cracked engine cases and frames are fairly common. While you can rebuild one, there is really nothing you can do about the crappy metal they are made of. The frame sections and engine cases do not line up where they are bolted together, putting stress on the joints, which results in fatigue cracks. There are 2 great things about the RE that you will not find in any other bike, other than a Harley. They have a nice vibration and sound, though you have to go with an aftermarket exhaust to get the sound. They also look great, until you get really close. My former 1966 Triumph Bonneville was made better than the Royal Enfield. The Enfield gives you a great vintage riding experience, but it is not a bike for those who do not like to get their hands dirty.
Him-ma-li-ans?, try correct pronunciation: *Himalayans* , Him-ma-lay-ans...... Sort of like American pronunciation of *process* , where Americans pronounce it like there's an *S* in there somewhere, as to sound like pros-cess. They'll correctly pronounce *prostitute* , as the first syllable is "pros", but then sound the last syllable as "toot", like you'd toot your horn. Process is of course only a two syllable word, pro-cess, so I'm stuffed as to how they'd include an S to have them sound it that way. Who knows?. Only the Shadow knows. And only those old enough to remember those early American Radio Serials, will know what I mean. Cheers, everyone, enjoy the remains of your day...
haha! well said, I studied the queen's english in school and unfortunately watched Hollywood dribble growing up...as a result I keep messing up my pronunciations of certain words like vitamins, potatoes, lieutenant, aluminum and so on so forth...disgusting! (I'm Indian btw).
LoudValves no I think they did it bcaz It fall under a2 licence or something means more people can access this bike in Europe bcaz of rules nd regulations if it would be higher cc bike means more bhp for that they need different licence
The reason they're 650cc and not any bigger is to appeal to A2 license holders in Europe. The 650 engine produces exactly 35kw, the limit for the license. It's pretty clever in all honesty; they're utilising one of the oldest marques in the world with strong retro styling while paring down the spec and price. They're essentially making a big cheap retro bike for learners with some actual pretense of history with it, like a budget baby Bonneville.
Not only are the new Enfields pretty bikes at surprisingly attractive prices, performance appears to be respectable based on what little information I could dig up at this early stage. I wouldn't be surprised if they sell well. I once suggested that Triumph reintroduce a lighter weight lower priced kick-start 650cc Bonneville to augment their (at that time) 865cc air/oil cooled models. They promptly went to bigger liquid cooled twins instead so I'm delighted to see Enfield fill that niche.
Great bikes, great strategy. Congratulations,Royal Enfield! Just waiting for the new models here in Brazil!
I can see a bit of a Norton Manx in the GT model, lovely looking cafe racer style.
dieselmupke.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
A Manx Norton? Really? Is it the humpy seat, or the rorty single-cylinder mill, or, oh wait, the Enfield is a twin....
Finally got my hands on a 650 Continental and just installed rear rack and crash bars. Still to install a handle bar and pipes that we made. So far been a great bike and still have a lot more riding to do..ride on
Damn it this bike is gorgeous .
they do look nice :-)
I had a British GT Continental in the 60s in those days the Continental was a 250 but had the best gear box I've had on any bike, silky silky smooth
I would purchase their 650 Twin without question as I still have my 1976 Triumph T140V Bonneville 750 but she's really old now at 42 years. These British designed twins in my opinion are the finest motorcycles ever made for the street. Powerful, light, nimble, great handling and reliable.
650cc Parallel twins...with that firing angle...it's gonna be aggressive & intense touring motorcycles...hope company inspire riders to come out and make highway the way of life! eagerly waiting to get my legs on and feel the massive engine come to roar.
This is a brand with legacy...good durable engineering and value for money you will fall in love with it.. ride one to feel the thump
Its weird! Very few people that post comments actually own or have ridden a modern RE bike. I have owned my Continental for 2 years plus , love every mile and cannot wait to test the new 650 models . Seen Himalayan`s in the flesh and found them to be a well built bike with premium fittings and a finish to match the Japanese . However , the price tag is truly crazy!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously , don`t just slag it off from some remote keyboard , get off your backside , see it ,touch it and ride one.
I have the GT as well 2014 model 12,000 k's, no problems so far........
Its’ called casual racism
Welwyn Herts hear..hear!
It's just brand snobbery, if it was build in the UK and double the price people would be stepping on each other to own one, I hope the 650 does well, with the whole "cafe racer" bike scene in the UK atm, if someone builds a special 650 and it gets featured in the bike shed etc, these things will fly off the shelf, a brand new bike for the price of a used one, which can be customised with huge bill, RE should do a "shed build" with these like BMW and YAMAHA have in the past with they R nine T and V-max. I'd love to see some builders get their hands on them and go to town.
nothing matches the japanese in quality not even close
Beautiful looking machines. Love the essential form follows function simplicity and design. Can't wait!
I had an India made Enfield 500. Once big truble with the ignition timer and little problems with the rear light. Good for long distance and daily driving.
Has it balance shafts or does it just numb hands like old ones looks good not sure about seat
Will the bikes have a starter sprag clutch that lasts longer than 6 months? Good thing it still has a kick start.
I am looking forward to riding one. This could be Huge for RE.
Great bikes from India and nice to see the "Interceptor" name reintroduced ....the last British "Rickman" Interceptors were scary fast to say the least!!
Back in 59 I had a Connie. My pal had a Super Meteor, both 700cc. Vertical twins. The Connie was quick for the day.
Connie's one of my fav bikes, rode the mk2 sure it was 750cc
when it will launch in India
Price
Will it be available in Canada?
I owned an RE 750 Interceptor back in 1968, very fast and BEAUTIFUL but poor quality and no parts or dealers. i hope the new company does a better job. This new one looks more like an old Norton Commando.
When in California? When JACK, When?
Royal Enfield going 650 instead of 750 had nothing to do with power like going 350 , 500 to 650.. It had to do with taxes in other countries . A lot of countries any motorbike over 700cc is absurdly taxed and expensive to insure .. 650cc was the smartest choice to sell more motorbikes.
And you can also tel that the customer targeted by Royal Enfield rather goes with reliability than horsepower.
So a 650 would consume less fuel in a trip and Maybe generates less heat.
Thats all about Royal Enfield. Smart and simple engineering that is easy and cheap to upkeep. A Bike that can last for years (or many miles).
I like sport bikes Like KTM's Duke (2018) and some other like Yamaha R's and Ducati but lets be honest:
Sports bike just CANT DEAL with time. They age FAST and lose value FAST.
This kind of Bike is the oposite. It stands the test of time.
I had HD Street 750. 750 is underpowered. So there is no difference to 750 and 650 - both give the smooth run and those extra 20-30 km/h to cruising speed which are missing in 500 models. So yes 650 is absolutely NOT inferior to 750.
Royal Enfield is about the worst reliable bike out there. I hope at least they fixed their starter sprag clutch which has been a continual known problem for 15 years.
From experience. Are you claiming that RE has no starter sprag clutch problem?
sir the 500 is the Himalayan named after the mountains NOT whatever it was that the American gentlemen were saying!! I'm English by the way.
Pity they didn’t go with the 750. But the chrome tank number is pretty and the red one is stunning. Even the “Himullion” is a neat little bike.
Royal Enfield is the largest manufacturer of motorcycles in the world by number
ive enjoyed re bikes since 2oo4 had bullets 2 post war 47 j 500/s and now a Himalayan I think a 650 twin in futer
More than 70 years we Indians helped to sustain the company so now RE should think of bringing optional values for us like optional EFI, ABS in 350 CC, most of us can bear the extra cost to ensure better experience and safety.
Wow made in India for the world
Nazar Meeran *United Kingdom
Made in japan (yamaha) for the world and India
Made in India but all the research done in UK...it is still a colonial product from the design point of view..the R&D centre is in UK and not in India...only manufacturing done in India...that's it
V PK ????
Junaid Khan It is made in India from long time. Come to present world stupid.
I own a RE Classic 500 and love it. I would have upgraded for a 750CC with more hp. Unfortunately, 650 is just not enough of a jump for me to consider the upgrade. Also - I used to find more RE dealers when it was handled by the previous distributor (I live in Central PA -
USA). Now - not so easy to find an authorized dealer. The bikes look cool though... and I do enjoy riding the 500.
Sir, I love d feature of GT but I want 350cc rest I want everything d sam no problem is it possible 2 customized by d company it self.
Hello Mr. President
Is there any possible ways to kick out the tapet issues that comes in every RE bikes.
Use synthetic oil, change it at the recommended interval, o and get rid of the lug a log exhaust. Can't hear the tappets on mine, mainly due to the exhaust throb.
My bike started producing tapet noice even before the time for my second service. Complaint raised on the issues to RE service center and no result found. I hope this is same for above 70% I know.
Reply I got from RE showroom is " the tapet noise will be there, it is regular" what do I felt is , I gave almost 1.75 lakhs and bought a bullshit instead of bullet.
Gently increase the rpm from idle, does the 'tappet' noise disappear as soon as the rpm leaves idle? If it does the noise is probably the decompresser weight in the exhaust cam rattling due to very low idle speed or rough running at idle. If the noise gradually reduces with increased rpm or doesn't change, service the bike, change the oil and filter, clean the oil pump suction screen as well. Then refill with 15W 50 Full Synthetic quality oil. I don't know what oil they use where you are but in Australia the oil installed by the dealers is used up within 1000 km and the engine rattles like a demon, and gear shifts are hard with lots of neutrals. Synthetic oil makes a massive difference.
Ray
What about RE Thunderbird X ? Any idea?
What would be the prize of interceptor in india?
i love Royale Enfield continental gt's
I have Classic Chrome 500 CC.
RE really has to improve their built quality and the after sale services
One RE dealership in Alberta, Canada and RE isn't even showing up to the Edmonton bike show this weekend! I really like the look of the Conti but it wouldn't make sense for me to sell my Triumph T100 , just based on looks. The one dealer, in Calgary (350Km away) said they might not see the twins until June.
These RE's won't be near the quality of the T100 you already have I'm sure.
Good looking bikes.
I paid my deposit, but nobody can tell me when the bikes will arrive in UK dealers, maybe they'll arrive at the start of the british monsoon (October) it's driving me nut's😣
They should make a low compression 850 , at least 9:1 or so
i think RE should have made two CC segment for each models for different countries in india 650 is lots of CC even though superbikes like hayabusa,r1,panegale is being sold in india but it is not in use cause they are made for speed and even if the road is not well then where you gonna ride on high speed and the road is still in underdeveloped in india in some part of the country......But for American RE should have made between 800- 1200 CC cause US has a great road lots of people meets accident with small CC like 200, 390 in india
Thumbs up RE.
DID YOU MENTION "RELIABILITY"..... kiddin me!!!
A nice looking machine but I too wish it was a 750 or 800 or more- the original Interceptors were 736 cc so sacrilege to call it "Interceptor", but realistically my 650 cc BSA has lots of power (as much or more than my later Triumph 750 twin, the EPA has reduced power so car and bike makers have to make the engine bigger to maintain the same power so in the overall picture just as much fuel is used.) I might buy one or wait to see if they offer a 750 in a year or three. The low price is attractive, I was going to buy a new Triumph 1200 twin.
Here in india royal enfe8ld is considered to be an army bike. You gotta have a certain strait to own one. Its about pride, shows how manly you are..
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I’m an OLD motorcyclist. I really don’t understand how 650 CC is a more logical step up than 750 CC. There must be more to this.
Other countries have HP and displacement limits on their licensing, so a 650 is a good balance for the export market since RE can probably not afford several lines for different markets. They may never be big in the US, but we're just one market. As for 650, HD could never build a stock bike to beat the Bonneville. People remember the classic 650's so there will be people buying these. BTW HD builds a 500 and 750 mostly for export. A '69 bonneville will still beat these new Harley's, too.
I think part of it is so many vertical twin classic motorcycles were of this displacement. The Triumphs, BSAs and the old Yamaha 650XS from the early 70's.
Sanjeev Das Mohapatra keeping India in mind too, especially to minimise cost
I see the influence of classic displacement from the past along with the practical taxation size. What's surprising to me is the power output - this is an ohc engine built with modern tech support and computer aided design. Seems like ~60 horsepower would have been easily attainable and would go over better.
Maybe with a range of accessories and re-modelling kits?
Plenty of opportunity for re-bore and/or stroking kits. UJMs had the choice in the 1970s.
Live in the U.S. Never heard anyone say Himalayan that way. Closest Enfield is 2017 single 2 states away. Oh well.
The reason they didn't go for 750cc was to keep in mind their domestic market (India) which is good for me. :p ill be able to afford it
I heard that the Himalayan designer got good hearsay and is been kicked out.
Ok now, Let's roll already.....
The tax part is UK related, so I can't comment, being in India. The question on power output is valid. Royal Enfield seems to be confused about the market that they want to address. Any which way, 650 CC and the power and torque figures just don't appeal
The bikes look and sound fantastic but they need more power. I appreciate them wanting to stay air cooled but really, 47bhp was ok in 1955 but you're not going to sell very many with that these days. Now put 75bhp in it and i'd be interested.
Well if quality is gonna be the same as in India ......Amen RE
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Sounds good. But as long as there's only one RE dealer anywhere near me, and that one's over 40 miles away and has only 3 identical 500 singles in stock, RE isn't going to be a viable option for me.
You could call that dealership on the phone and request them to arrange a specific model that you want to buy even if that RE dealer isn't selling them. RE has an option where you call the dealership and request for the model you want to buy and they'll ship it out to that RE dealership for you. But the only thing is they won't ship it just so you can try it out. But I'm sure if you have a friend or something who has that specific model you want. You could just talk to him and ride his one around a bit and get a feel or it and if you're interested in buying it then just contact that dealership and they can arrange for it to be sent.
I have the same problem, I mean, I'm not worried about reliability so I don't need a dealer on my doorstep, but... the only bikes they have are the 500's and they won't have any 650's till october at the earliest :/
That's the same gripe indians have about companies like ducati, triumph, Harley & the rest.
Companies should tie up with the local brands of the country to bring service & spare parts.
Very good for Bajaj!!!😁😁😁👉👈☝👏👏👏
They could have made a 699.99 cc called it a 700 and and been in between the 650 and the 750.
Ok come on my way. Thumps up. But when, before we die
I got 650 Chrome fucking SICK Bicke 🤘🏻🏍
Please pester Royal Enfield to RUBBER MOUNT the engine on the 500/350,s .
Love the 650 look So British looking.
I have a wait and see attitude
Why de hell no oil cooled engines n 350 n 500..hope tat they can do tat first
Just wish they were kick and elrctric start.
After 650 parallel twin...it is a time for 750 V twin
how 'bout a 998cc v twin? ruclips.net/video/hYzuqAX2A3A/видео.html
I met this man and saw and heard this machine.
A far cry from the OCC crew.
I also own, and restored, a 1970 RE Interceptor.
I am looking forward to the new Interceptor.
I am still looking for the 6 speed gearbox specifications/ratios.
I wish RE well,in this brave endeavor....
nice bikes, I learnt to ride on my RE in 1969 - But sadly, these new ones are lacking in innovative design, particularly in the seating and frame construction, just look at the thinness of the seat and the steel frame under the seat, a horrible exposed frame that your legs are resting on. Back to the drawing board.
Mais plus de kick et pas de béquille centrale. Ah, le goût du jour !
Looking forward to seeing one of those new 650 twins someday in the flesh. I wonder how I can get a couple of those beer cozies laid around the bike?--one for my drink, and one to keep my Royal Enfield Bullet 500ES single from vibrating my balls off.
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BilgemasterBill Lmao mate these things will never stop vibrating. Personally I've given up looking through the side view mirrors as I see nothing but shaking glass. Cheers on your endeavour though
It's pronounced "him a lay on" like the mountains not "himal yon"
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But no kickstart... What a shame....
Oh, didn't notice that. Not totally user friendly.
men nowadays are sissies...everything needs to have a bloody computer in it.
Automobiles are no longer sold with hand-cranks either - a real pity!!!
The bike is beautiful and the price is right. Unfortunately it's way to underpowered for the US market. The original Interceptor was a 750, why go backwards? The Bullets already have a bad reputation in the US for being lead sleds, why not break out of that? Look what happened to the Kawasaki W650; it was a flop so Kawasaki dropped it and them brought it back as the W800. All the difference in the world. Save all the re-tooling expense and the bad PR. Bring this to the states as a 750.... or 850, even better.
Wow so many Americans are getting annoyed by the guy saying Himalayan, He is using the correct pronunciation because the bike is Indian, that's how it's said in India... I don't see Americans caring about pronunciation when they try to say Jaguar...
HIM- UH-LAY-EN not bloody Himalyen, its not even spelled that way. "Himalayan"
dont think so bro :) . Maybe in America, but everywhere else its as I've put it
OK, lets see. Trying to get pronunciation via text is a bit hit and miss. Do you, or do you not agree with how the American in the video says Himalayan?
:)
Him a lay on that's as close as I can get it in text
Don't worry lol it sounds cute😂not everyone can pronounce it's its tough for them
Hope they suceed. No dealers near here yet. Should bring out a 750/800 I just don't buy the "step up" logic we all went from 125/250s to big bikes no intimidation.
Very good point. I was immersed in the business and sport back in the big wave of the '60s and '70s and those were the real beginner sizes leading to steps up. This current view of 750s and such as "small", beginner sizes is very misleading if not actually a bit dangerous considering all the adjustments a person makes to riding with a safety margin.
They're already the largest motorcycle company in the world, they'll do just fine, only reason they will be dropped from certain markets is due to snobbery. If the bike was made in the UK and sold at double the price it'd sell like hot cakes, silly really, the 650 looks smart as hell.
the word is pronounced pro cess not proscess
It's himma - layan, not him - arly - un!
Listening to the yanks completely miss pronounce Himalayan is so frustrating! Even the guy who works for RE cant even say it properly. smh
I can't get sound unfortunately. But if they are saying something like Himarlian, with the stress on the 'ar', then that is correct and the way the Indians say it.
makes me krazy to hear it, but if they don't 'fix' it, I may have to relearn the word.
Royle Enfylde InterKeptor.........and, of course, the HymaaalleeeaN
The new Bajaj 400 is a better option. Have a 220 and driven it for a year and not one issue.
I have a Baja Avenger 2016 220 Cruise stored at friends place near Kochi. Is this what you were referring to or the new 400. I have been looking at the new 400 and it is a very nice bike. Advanced yet a cruiser. 6 Speed shifter as well as disk brakes front and aft. Only a single cylinder (Would be much nicer if it were twin) but it is using the dominar engine I think so both bike share same engine so repairs (Which will be few and cheap as this is a good engine) should be good. All the best!!
Why can't these guys pronounce "Himilayan" properly?
$7000 is WAY too much for that thing, it should be $2600 , like the Lifan powered chinese bikes, it is basically the same old as hell technology
Maintain same quality in lndia
They keep calling it the Himallian...
That is the correct - Indian - way to say it. Bit like we say Paris, the French say Paree. Gawd knows what the Texans call it.
paul ...........dont be serious ......people are making fun of other accents on social media and why that is so hard for you to digest ???
Paul Braham haha! Texans...good one :)
I loved when they were saying it sound cute Nd sweet lol😂😂🤣😄
Too bad about the tank’s pinch-weld . . . makes it look like an old tin toy. Of course, Enfield isn’t the only manufacturer that succumbs to this aesthetic blemish, but it doesn’t raise the bar either . . .
It is not fair, The motobikes this company trades for USA look better quality than ones that come to México.
That's because México is shit.
Jajajajajaja México is the best country in whole the world full of culture, decendents of priest and warriors. What about you? Are you from the named first world countries???
Alejandro Hernandez brother! we back home in India have the same bloody gripe :(
Yeah, but i cannot understand why. Does USA is better than the rest of the world? We want also quality products.
Alejandro Hernandez Hay que exigir mejores productos. El dinero es la mejor voz. En cuanto más crezca el mercado de las motocicletas, más competencia va a haber, y, evidentemente, el que mejor las haga, va a acaparar el mercado. O eso debería pasar en teoría, porque existe otro factor... el precio de las cosas... y por eso Italika es de las marcas más vendidas aquí 😒.
Esforcémonos y compremos motos de buena calidad, y así las marcas chinas e indias ( y de todo el mundo), tendrán que subir sus estándares de calidad si desean tener presencia en nuestro mercado.
Great a 1974 Honda.
American riders want large cc touring bikes. While the 650 cc is good for many people looking to buy a first bike without spending a lot of money, a 750 cc or higher is better suited to the American highway and open roads. RE will not be able to compete in the US market against Japanese, US and European bikes.
Sunil Thomas--- Really, how many bikes DO you see here in the U.S. on open roads? Not many and they're primarily Harleys and big Japanese 'touring' bikes. Most riders here buy a bike for fun, not the long, boring highway ride. It's also hard to justify spending more than 10 Grand on a bike, that's why there's a LOT more sales volume under the 10 K threshold than above it.
@Alex: My first bike after high school was a 450 Honda Nighthawk. It was used and cheap. However, when I am on the NJ Turnpike and sharing the road with a truck, I felt I didn't have enough power to get around them or out of their way. Now I have a 900 cc bike for that very reason. I have biked in Europe and in India, where this is manufactured, where most of the riding is city riding and gas prices are more expensive. If I lived there, I would get a smaller bike. You can get a used touring bike for less than $5000 on Craigslist. Maybe you don't like long highway rides, but I do and I think most Americans do.
Sunil Thomas--- Sunil, I think we're beating a dead horse here. My point is this: no ONE make/model is going to make every one happy. I used to be a Triumph freak, owning several at different times (out of over 30 different bikes that I've owned) but would I buy a new one? Oh, hell no! Too big, too expensive, and the older I get (I'm 72 now) the smaller the bike I'd want. I've lost interest in my '67 BSA THunderbolt because it's too big & cumbersome for my tastes. Come spring it's going up for sale to be replaced by something smaller, say no bigger than a 400. Point? Tastes change, needs change, lifestyles change. I don't see any one model of bike satisfying anybody for long. But if I was younger I could see myself hopping right on that Enfield 650.
I agree, I'm 55 now and have a BMW K100RT. In a few years, I will be hanging up my helmet, because I don't get much time to use my bike much. I always get nervous on a lighter bike when I have to share the highway with trucks.
Sunil Thomas--- Remembering my youth, the very first time I drove a motorcycle was when I borrowed a friend's Honda 50 Sport (it was in 1961). It was just for a quick ride around the block, a very LARGE block, though. On the back straight, out of sight of the bike's owner, I rapped it out all the way, and screaming along at top speed (50 mph) and laying down on the tank, I fell instantly in love. In subsequent years I went on to own about 3 dozen motorcycles, but none was as exciting to ride as that very first ride. So now I'm going back. Smaller is better and 60 mph on the right road is as exciting as 100 mph on a highway. I also encounter fewer trucks that way, too. Luckily, I escaped the city and moved to a small town (pop. 25,000) a couple of years ago, so that's easy for me to do. (By the way, the best all-around bike made, in my opinion, was the R-90. Good luck finding one available, though.)
India mea millage hona Re mea 150cc lanch karna hoga
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Totally with u on this
As the owner of a 2013 RE B5, I'm not holding out much hope for these new bikes. The quality on mine is absolutely TERRIBLE
The quality of RE motorcycles keeps going up. I have a Continental GT 535 (2017) and have had no quality issues at all. These new 650's have been well tested, and should be quite reliable I would think.
The thing is... a royal enfield will go forever, however they build so many a year that a few are likely to be sub par, the bike is so cheap though that you could buy one, strip it down, rebuild it and you'd still have a cheap bike which you knew was built to a high standard.
The best way to answer your question is to go here forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php?board=19.0 and do a lot of reading. I doubt there is anything that hasn't gone wrong with a Royal Enfield. The two main issues are the really cheap metal they are made of, and very poor assembly quality. Pieces of shop rags have been found inside new engines. Cracked engine cases and frames are fairly common. While you can rebuild one, there is really nothing you can do about the crappy metal they are made of. The frame sections and engine cases do not line up where they are bolted together, putting stress on the joints, which results in fatigue cracks. There are 2 great things about the RE that you will not find in any other bike, other than a Harley. They have a nice vibration and sound, though you have to go with an aftermarket exhaust to get the sound. They also look great, until you get really close. My former 1966 Triumph Bonneville was made better than the Royal Enfield. The Enfield gives you a great vintage riding experience, but it is not a bike for those who do not like to get their hands dirty.
Harmaylian what a laugh
Him-ma-li-ans?, try correct pronunciation: *Himalayans* , Him-ma-lay-ans...... Sort of like American pronunciation of *process* , where Americans pronounce it like there's an *S* in there somewhere, as to sound like pros-cess. They'll correctly pronounce *prostitute* , as the first syllable is "pros", but then sound the last syllable as "toot", like you'd toot your horn. Process is of course only a two syllable word, pro-cess, so I'm stuffed as to how they'd include an S to have them sound it that way. Who knows?. Only the Shadow knows. And only those old enough to remember those early American Radio Serials, will know what I mean. Cheers, everyone, enjoy the remains of your day...
haha! well said, I studied the queen's english in school and unfortunately watched Hollywood dribble growing up...as a result I keep messing up my pronunciations of certain words like vitamins, potatoes, lieutenant, aluminum and so on so forth...disgusting! (I'm Indian btw).
He used the indian pronunciation... because it's and Indian bike...
should have gone 750 ...
There will be plenty of big bore kits from 3rd parties so it's no big deal really
Interceptor 750
LoudValves no I think they did it bcaz It fall under a2 licence or something means more people can access this bike in Europe bcaz of rules nd regulations if it would be higher cc bike means more bhp for that they need different licence
Royal Enfield has to get out of the Indian market mindset. I thought that their CEO is really progressive, but...............you know what
what???????
Silencer looks outdated
As they say, you can spray gold paint on a turd, but a turd will remaining turd. Crap materials, no quality control
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