Like Asmond mentions in another vid, he has a Business degree, another one of them has a Finance degree, Esfand has a Sports Management degree. These dude's aren't as idiotic as people think. They wouldn't be as successful as they are today if they were stupid.
@@chynadatagatherer7139 They aren't needed, but they do help you in terms of knowing who you should hire and help you understand how to build up your own brand. Asmongold is one of the best at building a brand. He knows how to manage his brand and isn't easily swayed by short term gains with long term losses
@@glenndiddy I disagree with the premise that a degree that was never fully acted upon is much use at all in the spectrum of importance. Asmongolds business degree means very very little
Turns out Asmon has a 98% stake so he'll be the shot caller for the business. With his business experience, financial experience, he can get folkS to feed him condensed precise info, make the decision, and then hand it off the be implemented.
My estimate: The three content creators (who are rich enough) invested and brought in two business managers who take over bespoke responsibilities on a basic level - they take care of the "boring" stuff (legal, sales, finance) and basically act in a CFO & COO kinda role. The three content creators hire the video team since they will work closely with them. And for Sales you bring in an agency that prints money for you. That's how I would do it :)
@@fractal_mind562 No he wouldn't have as they and himself, wouldn't have been in charge of the org. He's a streamer that had the most connections, and would have also been an entertainer for the org. He would have been great for the org, obviously something would happen but then the org could have used a bad situation to gain some popularity among people by choosing to bring attention to mental health. If Byron would have been bad for an org, he never would have succeeded in streaming... but he became one of the most beloved. And if it turned off investors? Then they could find newer ones or even, just ask him to leave/come up with strategies to deal with manic episodes. How do I know this? I'm bipolar as fuck boi
It'll fail as a WoW esports tournament organizer. Talent agency aspect is where the money is. Blizzard even scammed the WoW community last year to fund its esports.
@@tgo007 That depends. Some things are entirely gate kept behind degrees, like certain licenses. Some colleges come with name recognition and networking. Some non-profit colleges are quite inexpensive. Sometimes college reduces the time spent on learning what you don’t know on your own. Is it a waste for a lot of people? Absolutely. Is there sometimes value to be had in education? Absolutely. That depends on the person, their goals, and the stage in their life.
If done well, OTK can be game-changing in the way that 100T was. But as someone from the WoW Community, it's extremely exciting, because even if they do very little WoW content, it's inevitably going to be a beacon oh light, and a surge for bigger, and better content! Fingers Crossed!
I wonder if the secrecy behind this is a major factor in why McConnell left. It's like hiding something from your partner. It might be harmless, but they assume you're cheating on them. Might also just be attention drama on McC's part.
When it comes to esports pioneers I would think of Dennis Fong "Thresh" or Johnathan Wendel "Fatal1ty" and they were active more than 5 years ago. Just saying...
I still have the demo of the match where thresh wins John Carmack's ferrari lol. There was even a character in hunger games from district 11 named Thresh (D11 was his clan in the original quake)
@@smokesspeedruncorner8600 Clan was Deathrow, every member had a different number. And yes, I picked up that d11 from hunger games too, crazy coincidence.
Edit: DMCA stuff caused Devin to get an archive channel ruclips.net/channel/UCh9JaqE6w94KndioRS2BcjQ I think I've heard him say he won't do a VOD/clip channel. I'm guessing he only wants the "good stuff" put up for people to find. He doesn't delete stuff from here or old channels, but only puts up more curated stuff.
@@DempseyDaPro I would too but watching VODS on twitch mobile hurts my soul LUL I listen to all his videos with RUclips red so I can download it and listen while I drive my forklift.
Which is why Hecz is picking up Doc and Nade to run the CDL and already have the brands, that are well known. Doc will be selling the team hype and bring interested to the team that Nade will manage. Period.
Speaking of girlfriends breaking up the friendship of the organization, I think everyone can look toward The Beatles' entropy with Yoko Ono. Many people see it negatively and how Yoko didn't mesh well with the other men that weren't John Lennon.
They 100% also need a controller. They won’t need a full time controller but they need an accountant early on that actually understands the business and culture.
the second one sounds as organic as the first method, but one is all about money investment and the second one a content investment ( which involves money but the money has a focus unlike the other ones). Also friendship and buisness usually don't mix well together, and the changes the success of this make to their relationship could spell the inevitable end of the endeveour so all the luck to them it will be hard
How is he saying 100T followed the 2nd route when within 2 months of "being founded" they signed a League time and a COD team... with investments from the cleveland cavs owner, drake, and scooter braun? EDIT: i understand they had a huge pivot towards lifestyle branding, but investments were done up front and esports teams were involved before and content creators were signed
Hey Devin, always loving the content. Method is back btw. Not sure if you were mistaken. They announced their return like 1-2 weeks ago. They’re rebuild now. You should look into it especially via Sco. I would like to hear your take on it! They had a whole announcement stream. I was actually waiting to see if you would make a statement on it.
Dude Method was involved in major sexual harrassment (a few months ago even) and no legitimate sponsor will ever touch that brand again as long as they get associated with that negative image Method has. Method should've renamed themselves but now they will stay radioactive for years to come (in terms of sponsorships and engagement). So I am sure Devin knows about Method but he knows they are irrelevant to this conversation since they are non viable.
Devin Nash is what Destiny will never be! That's why people enjoy listening to Devin more even though his voice is not the greatest. But his delivery is MUCH better!
There is hype for OTK? Seriously don't give two shits, and I'm not trying to be rude, but I don't really understand how content consumers have interest in "Orgs" of random people putting on different content.
@@leorictristram4894 Have we watched the same announcement? "Young dudes" - Which age-range would be the best fit for the leadership of mainly a WoW-organization according to you? Also, can't begin to comprehend where you get this "stunt-vibe" from.
I think that your analysis is all well and good, but you know what? How did Amazon start off? How did Facebook start off? How did RUclips start off? Back when youtube started, absolutely no one believed sponsors would go on ahead and pick sponsoring a content creator in youtube over the channel 11 news right, and look at how things are now. Reasoning is all well and good, but sometimes there are things that just click. For whatever reason. And I for one am a whole lot more interested in seeing a third party org that would be not only fairer to the teams but also more fun to watch than the big sponsored boring teams out there, and they might start negative, but little by little, you can build a brand and fly off from there. So I just wish them all the luck in the world.
Wait, people were confused on what this was? As soon as it was announced, i thought immediately that this group will band together to produce good content not create teams for Esports
Building a business around a game that possibly wont exist in 5 years isn't very smart. The life cycle of the WoW product is at the end of its life. Its not going to grow at this point. WoW would be a short term goal like goals within a 5 year period. Long term goals are very important to creating a business that makes a profit. They need other intellectual property, other than WoW, to develop long term goals.
They mentioned that they are sticking with WOW at first because they are familiar with it, but once they are more established, they will spread to other games (Minecraft was mentioned). That also has a lot to do with why Mizkif is on the team.
Ofcourse you suggest getting an agency...big surprise. I really like you but I'm getting annoyed by your ego as if your the one who knows everything about the business and telling everyone what the have to do. There is not just one way to success, especially in an economy thats so young.
whats wrong with him suggesting to get outside help that knows what they are doing just to get them started? He didn't even say that is the only thing they can do, here simply gave an OPTION. He is merely suggesting for OTK to get started and familiar with the field because lets be honest, none of the founders of OTK have done this before. Sure they have degrees, but that's about it. All they've really done is streamed and setup community events. Getting an agency to get off the ground on a good start is an excellent idea. You don't support your argument either.
@@aidanbrown7137 of course those 5 obviously know what to do, they've been talking for months. what's his trying to say is OtK should have contacted devin cause you know he's the only ONE who knows this shit. (sarcasm)
Like Asmond mentions in another vid, he has a Business degree, another one of them has a Finance degree, Esfand has a Sports Management degree. These dude's aren't as idiotic as people think. They wouldn't be as successful as they are today if they were stupid.
those degree's aren't need when they can just go to an agency and hire someone.
@@chynadatagatherer7139 They aren't needed, but they do help you in terms of knowing who you should hire and help you understand how to build up your own brand.
Asmongold is one of the best at building a brand. He knows how to manage his brand and isn't easily swayed by short term gains with long term losses
@@glenndiddy ight thanks sexy
@@glenndiddy I disagree with the premise that a degree that was never fully acted upon is much use at all in the spectrum of importance. Asmongolds business degree means very very little
@@fractal_mind562 He did work for the IRS so at least he should know how to NOT be stupid with money.
"Basement Dwelling Troglodyte feel" LOL
Devin is basically saying OTK needs a “One True King” to make all the decisions, and they’ll be the council behind him.
Turns out Asmon has a 98% stake so he'll be the shot caller for the business. With his business experience, financial experience, he can get folkS to feed him condensed precise info, make the decision, and then hand it off the be implemented.
My estimate: The three content creators (who are rich enough) invested and brought in two business managers who take over bespoke responsibilities on a basic level - they take care of the "boring" stuff (legal, sales, finance) and basically act in a CFO & COO kinda role. The three content creators hire the video team since they will work closely with them. And for Sales you bring in an agency that prints money for you. That's how I would do it :)
Reckful would've be an amazing addition for this :(
Reckful would be the ultimate edition, finishing member. I wish.
His mental state would have been a liability unfortunately, i felt a strong connection to reckful too but he would have been bad for the org over all.
@@fractal_mind562 No he wouldn't have as they and himself, wouldn't have been in charge of the org. He's a streamer that had the most connections, and would have also been an entertainer for the org.
He would have been great for the org, obviously something would happen but then the org could have used a bad situation to gain some popularity among people by choosing to bring attention to mental health.
If Byron would have been bad for an org, he never would have succeeded in streaming... but he became one of the most beloved.
And if it turned off investors? Then they could find newer ones or even, just ask him to leave/come up with strategies to deal with manic episodes.
How do I know this? I'm bipolar as fuck boi
He would have invested/ joined too no question. That's just how much he loved his friends and wow, and also helping people. RIP Byron
The moment I heared the announcement from Asmon I was wondering - What is Devin going to say about it? :D
makes me feel smart when i watch devin so i will continue
Basically: “Work with me plz”
It'll fail as a WoW esports tournament organizer. Talent agency aspect is where the money is.
Blizzard even scammed the WoW community last year to fund its esports.
Getting more knowledge from devin Nash than from college
Go to a better college lol
College still has a lot of value, this is how to APPLY what you learn.
@@truckerdave8465 it's overpriced though.
@@tgo007 That depends. Some things are entirely gate kept behind degrees, like certain licenses. Some colleges come with name recognition and networking. Some non-profit colleges are quite inexpensive. Sometimes college reduces the time spent on learning what you don’t know on your own.
Is it a waste for a lot of people? Absolutely. Is there sometimes value to be had in education? Absolutely. That depends on the person, their goals, and the stage in their life.
Excited to see where this goes!
"I change my shirt once every two days" dude asmon brags about how he wore a shirt for 3 weeks
If done well, OTK can be game-changing in the way that 100T was. But as someone from the WoW Community, it's extremely exciting, because even if they do very little WoW content, it's inevitably going to be a beacon oh light, and a surge for bigger, and better content! Fingers Crossed!
I wonder if the secrecy behind this is a major factor in why McConnell left. It's like hiding something from your partner. It might be harmless, but they assume you're cheating on them. Might also just be attention drama on McC's part.
"I only change my shirts every 2 days"
You miss spelled weeks
They saw the gap in the market from Method and jumped in quick
can't believe devin is this wise at 23 years old
Lmao, such a talent, and at such a young age !
good insight!
Devin, what do you think about Darkzero?
I’m subbed. You are a value content machine
Woo was waiting for this missed half yesterday.
When it comes to esports pioneers I would think of Dennis Fong "Thresh" or Johnathan Wendel "Fatal1ty" and they were active more than 5 years ago. Just saying...
I still have the demo of the match where thresh wins John Carmack's ferrari lol. There was even a character in hunger games from district 11 named Thresh (D11 was his clan in the original quake)
@@smokesspeedruncorner8600 Clan was Deathrow, every member had a different number. And yes, I picked up that d11 from hunger games too, crazy coincidence.
You are a King. Thank you Devin for answering all my questions!
there is only one true king
If you uploaded all of your VODS straight to youtube I'd watch them all, just saying. Thank you for the information Mr Nash 😎👍
Edit: DMCA stuff caused Devin to get an archive channel
ruclips.net/channel/UCh9JaqE6w94KndioRS2BcjQ
I think I've heard him say he won't do a VOD/clip channel. I'm guessing he only wants the "good stuff" put up for people to find. He doesn't delete stuff from here or old channels, but only puts up more curated stuff.
@@DrownedLamp fair enough, thanks for the information bud
@@TheDrewSilver I personally like to watch the VODS over youtube.
@@DempseyDaPro I would too but watching VODS on twitch mobile hurts my soul LUL I listen to all his videos with RUclips red so I can download it and listen while I drive my forklift.
@@DempseyDaPro ruclips.net/channel/UCh9JaqE6w94KndioRS2BcjQ he got one cause of dmca
Best take I've heard on this org.
I've already watched this live and on mizkif's stream.
Came here just to say that the thumbnail is better than the image in the OTK website.
does Miz play WoW too ??
Only when it’s popping! Ie: classic launch or around new expac launch. :))))(
I fucking love Devin Nash.
Which is why Hecz is picking up Doc and Nade to run the CDL and already have the brands, that are well known. Doc will be selling the team hype and bring interested to the team that Nade will manage. Period.
Speaking of girlfriends breaking up the friendship of the organization, I think everyone can look toward The Beatles' entropy with Yoko Ono. Many people see it negatively and how Yoko didn't mesh well with the other men that weren't John Lennon.
Interesting vid!
I saw this live and before Mizkif reacts tonight PogU
You dropped this sir, L
I think FaZe actually did the second model to much greater success.
They 100% also need a controller. They won’t need a full time controller but they need an accountant early on that actually understands the business and culture.
They likely already do. They've said they've been working on this for a good while.
Asmon and his dad too btw having worked for the irs can't be a negative.
Yay!
talks like this keep me inspired to keep making videos and now maybe make an e sports team lol
40 min hire me speech
the second one sounds as organic as the first method, but one is all about money investment and the second one a content investment ( which involves money but the money has a focus unlike the other ones). Also friendship and buisness usually don't mix well together, and the changes the success of this make to their relationship could spell the inevitable end of the endeveour so all the luck to them it will be hard
second one is organic but slower, waiting for capital to build before going big takes a LOT of time, especially enough to buy/manage a team
"So what's your brand built upon?"
"...basement dwelling troglodytes."
Nice. We'll sponsor you right away!
How is he saying 100T followed the 2nd route when within 2 months of "being founded" they signed a League time and a COD team... with investments from the cleveland cavs owner, drake, and scooter braun?
EDIT: i understand they had a huge pivot towards lifestyle branding, but investments were done up front and esports teams were involved before and content creators were signed
I actualy don't but thanks 😂
Hey Devin, always loving the content. Method is back btw. Not sure if you were mistaken. They announced their return like 1-2 weeks ago. They’re rebuild now. You should look into it especially via Sco. I would like to hear your take on it! They had a whole announcement stream. I was actually waiting to see if you would make a statement on it.
Dude Method was involved in major sexual harrassment (a few months ago even) and no legitimate sponsor will ever touch that brand again as long as they get associated with that negative image Method has. Method should've renamed themselves but now they will stay radioactive for years to come (in terms of sponsorships and engagement). So I am sure Devin knows about Method but he knows they are irrelevant to this conversation since they are non viable.
The method "we're back" video wasn't even half as good as the OTK announcement video .. they are done
@@anis6800 Exactly they are essentially radioactive forever now.
asmon actually have a business degree
OTK was very "huh" when I saw it.
very nice very cool :)
just here to state the company will go under after tips drains them financially. he has a checkered past
Just me that have a feeling reckful should have been apart of this? as the "true king" maybe?
that would have been great
TriHard 7
Devin Nash is what Destiny will never be! That's why people enjoy listening to Devin more even though his voice is not the greatest. But his delivery is MUCH better!
OTK is One Turn Kill. They’re posers.
There is hype for OTK? Seriously don't give two shits, and I'm not trying to be rude, but I don't really understand how content consumers have interest in "Orgs" of random people putting on different content.
Nah OTK will succeed. Fuck professionalism and suits, dirty shirts and neckbeards will dominate.
PogU
My fear is OTK is gonna have an accident where someone is seriously hurt or worse, it's gonna be the fastest collapse of a team org ever.
Wtf. Please elaborate.
@@Felix-py9nb Because they're a bunch of young dudes who's brand makes them look like the wild boys, and they might just do some stupid stunt stuff.
@@leorictristram4894 Have we watched the same announcement? "Young dudes" - Which age-range would be the best fit for the leadership of mainly a WoW-organization according to you? Also, can't begin to comprehend where you get this "stunt-vibe" from.
I think that your analysis is all well and good, but you know what?
How did Amazon start off?
How did Facebook start off?
How did RUclips start off?
Back when youtube started, absolutely no one believed sponsors would go on ahead and pick sponsoring a content creator in youtube over the channel 11 news right, and look at how things are now.
Reasoning is all well and good, but sometimes there are things that just click. For whatever reason. And I for one am a whole lot more interested in seeing a third party org that would be not only fairer to the teams but also more fun to watch than the big sponsored boring teams out there, and they might start negative, but little by little, you can build a brand and fly off from there.
So I just wish them all the luck in the world.
Wait, people were confused on what this was? As soon as it was announced, i thought immediately that this group will band together to produce good content not create teams for Esports
Building a business around a game that possibly wont exist in 5 years isn't very smart. The life cycle of the WoW product is at the end of its life. Its not going to grow at this point. WoW would be a short term goal like goals within a 5 year period. Long term goals are very important to creating a business that makes a profit. They need other intellectual property, other than WoW, to develop long term goals.
They mentioned that they are sticking with WOW at first because they are familiar with it, but once they are more established, they will spread to other games (Minecraft was mentioned). That also has a lot to do with why Mizkif is on the team.
I guess I should clarify Minecraft wasn't promised, but mentioned in passing.
is there anything worse then watching twitch without chat
Third also hella early
1st. 17 seconds btw
100T be like esport team bye bye CS too hard 1 team try is enough. :D
Ofcourse you suggest getting an agency...big surprise. I really like you but I'm getting annoyed by your ego as if your the one who knows everything about the business and telling everyone what the have to do. There is not just one way to success, especially in an economy thats so young.
whats wrong with him suggesting to get outside help that knows what they are doing just to get them started? He didn't even say that is the only thing they can do, here simply gave an OPTION. He is merely suggesting for OTK to get started and familiar with the field because lets be honest, none of the founders of OTK have done this before. Sure they have degrees, but that's about it. All they've really done is streamed and setup community events. Getting an agency to get off the ground on a good start is an excellent idea. You don't support your argument either.
But he is the one who should tell everyone what to do, he's probably one of the most qualified people to speak on this.
@@aidanbrown7137 of course those 5 obviously know what to do, they've been talking for months. what's his trying to say is OtK should have contacted devin cause you know he's the only ONE who knows this shit. (sarcasm)
NERD
haha jk
Nerd
You are just seeking attention from this. You are no one and it does hurt you . Get a job .
You realize he was once hired in as CEO of CLG right. Like his entire career was eSports.
@@treyxntreyxn well is he still there? He broke now.