Ministers furious at protesters who permanently damaged Germany's economy
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
- Ministers furious at protesters who permanently damaged Germany's economy
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Remember all the protests from VWs diesel gate? Yeah, me neither.
Who is organizing and funding the protestors?
Who is funding the Germany politicians. I am sure there is some Tesla money in their pockets.
tax payers are forced to pay for jobless lazy fools in socialist germany, this is one of two reasons why i will move out of germany soon! the second reason is i dont like the cold winters
Obviously the union sympathies fuel this stupidity
Most likely the orders are coming from Putin, as partial revenge for Elon suppling Starlink dishes to Ukraine and generally disrupting the fossil fuel industry which is a large part of Russia's economy
Big oil
I did think that Germany was the wrong country for Tesla. Its too wealthy and they dont want it enough. Poland would have been better or Romania.
Correct.
These folks feel they have permission to protest Tesla. Media has been whining about Tesla and many folks are new tech suspicious.
Same as the media does in the USA. They let them burn down the cities. They burnt down the police departments and the police cars. They created their stupid city named it Chaz or something like that and occupied it.
Police and media did nothing. They supported it.
Civil unrest is never good for the economy.
Sowing chaos in the west advantages two big countries right now.
the irony is that on their sign the protestors say "together our of the crisis" but with their actions they literally achieve the opposite. this is what happens when people have the right goals but dont use logic and education as tool to achieve their goals. i see this in millions of people on this planet, they have decent goals but are just too brain-dead to achieve them
I understand some of the issues with capitalism’s unfettered greed…but young people better understand that Putin, more than anyone would love to undermine German stability. ALWAYS question who is behind and funding ANY movement. We’re just now understanding that fossil/petroleum interests and money funded antinuclear protests!
Who's the biggest EV exporter? Is it Germany?
I was unironically so weirded out that Germany *wanted* oil dependence, the idea that it was a deliberate conspiracy to undermine the country's economy some how makes so mucy more sense
And windmill magnate and subsidy farmer Vince dale funding just stop oil
The last time Germany had mass unemployment an anti capitalist socialist government took control - well I guess it was 1933 so easily forgotten
@@justinr9753china
Just curious how many of these protesters drove to Tesla in their ICE vehicles. Shaking my head while I drive my EV powered by the sun via the solar panels on my home's roof.
They also had no smoke for BMW when they originally owned the land and were going to expand. It's just dummies following the cause-de-jour which in this case is Tesla hating.
“Do as I say, not as I do”
almost everything is powered by the sun, fossil fuels also got their energy from the sun a long time ago. but anyway these protestors have written on their sign "together out of the crisis" but isnt that ironic? because with their actions they achieve the opposite, with their actions they get themselves into a crisis, not out of one. usually whenever you set yourself a goal you use logic as a tool to achieve this goal. these people dont know what logic is, their goal is a sustainable environment which TESLA make possible yet they target TESLA? to put their actions into words: "they unintentionally assist the enemy team" or "they hurt themselves out of confusion" with their actions they literally achieve the opposite of what they want. we need to teach these people logic and give them more education
They came by bike and train.
Diesel buses.
Think we all know who has a vested interest in making sure western nations don't lose a certain energy dependence.
No they just hate tesla. There is a difference
Russia or Saudi Arabia?
@@larryc1616 Was refering to Russia, with the reports of artillery shell production and railway sabotage this week across several European nations as well as in New York, one could assume Russia behind this as well, but you're right the Sauds would benefit too, just they've been relatively quiet the past couple years.
@@ABanRocksMaybe this hate of Tesla will increase Cyber Truck orders.
I think that is the way to go
@@ABanRocks People hate Tesla because Tesla has ushered the electric car onto the world stage ?
The protesters offer nothing to Germany.
do you?
@@hansdampf9769 Possibly pays taxes, unlike any of these clowns with lots of free time on their hands.
@@hansdampf9769 Yeah, he doesn't ride with roving gangs and destroy other people's property. He's probably a hard-working taxpayer and law-abiding citizen. F off.
@@hansdampf9769 You one of those weak little Markist protesters?
@@alancane1482I am weak and small and an early Tsla investor, but also a civilized German citizen with open ears to critizism. Thank you.
Finland embraces clean air with electric cars.
Germany has spent years educating young people that any job that damages the environment is not worth having - welcome to the outcome - so many young people now think that the economy is not important only the environment - and now we shall see what happens
I find it impossible for somthing like this to happen in any country and the government not to know volumes about those involved.
I was surprised that Tesla chose Germany for their factory. Seems like they didn't research much.
Same here .. Elon could have picked Hungary or Poland ..
They chose based on economic reasons, however, Elon later said he regretted that Tesla picked germany since the countries red tape and delays have been harsher than any other country, even though they are a massive net positive for the country
@@nyanbrox5418 And germany is notorious for that, how is he learning that lesson de post facto? Elon = dumb
Germany is a gold mine of human resources. German stereotypes aside, think of all the automotive industry experience transferable to EVs that Tesla can headhunt. There's a reason some processes like the new paints were pioneered by Tesla Germany.
Cos Musk is a fellow Nazi.
An investigation into the funding and organisation of these protests needs to be undertaken to see if they are being funded illegally.
How do you do that? Chances are the people doing the protest are paid by people paid by people, rinse repeat.
So far left they went round the circle to far right
nice try, trying to blame the left on the far right. These people are far left, very far left like most in Germany. I have lived in Germany and seen these types of people and even spent time with them. I don't even think they know what they are protesting.
And in America the meth-heads are stealing the charging cables from all of the stations. Good luck taking trips
Who has the most to gain here? They are the one's that are encouraging, turning a blind eye, and/or funding this, one of those entities must be Big Oil
These are not protestors.
Somebody is organising and paying for this.
Like the yanks targeting the nordstream gas pipes
@@ttkddrychina who else
what else are they?
Stop blaming other companies and foreign countries this is clearly just woke commi play time. Communists do this in every country. Germany just has a lot of them. It's simple.
Communism= anarchy.
These are terrorists not protestors
Yup.
BS and you know it.
I left germany 34 years ago. Never regretted a single day. Schroeder, Merkel and now Scholz, all more or less on Russia's payroll (either by cash or conviction) brought this country and EU down to the sad state it is in now.
This can’t be about water and harvest trees.
This would not be happening if Tesla was German
Rumors are VW started these protests to protect the ICE buisness
Have to agree.
VW will not accept applications from workers that leave to work at Tesla and later apply to vw.
Not necessarily. They are protesting against capitalism. They are hardcore socialists.
@@softwarephil1709 So they’re not environmentalists? They are just anti-capitalists? I would have thought the epicentre of capitalism is the banking sector. Sorry I don’t buy it. It is xenophobia.
@@softwarephil1709 they should protest at VW, the local coal fire powerplant, and the like, which are funding the mob because they get more money
Ie because of capitalism
I would blacklist those protesters from any government support. Who harms the society has no right to receive support from the society.
No regular working person has time for long term land occupations so they are probably are financed by unemployment money, university scholarship or other government /society money.
Round 2
Elon unleashes an army of Optimusi with tasers
🤣🤣
*lasers
Not 50% but significantly 15% (the actual number is below) of manufacturing in Germany is the car industry. A little more research would be appreciated.
Car manufacturing in Germany is 5% of their GDP. Manufacturing was 23% of their economy and making cars was about 25% of that. These numbers resulted from about 3 minutes on Google. My 15% above was my mistake.
He said 50% including indirect effects if you assume a multiplicator effect of 10/1. That would be consistent with your 5% direct effect. 10/1 seems like a lot to me but the effect will be substantial.
These idiots are defending the ICE vehicle industry. PEACE
No they aren’t. They are protesting against capitalism. They are hardcore socialists..
Germany is doing everything wrong at the moment.
France too
@tom-kohler at least france has high nuclear energy, Germany deliberately decomissioned all of theirs
@@tom-kohlerFrance is the only one literally standing up to Russia evil. You're obviously a Putin puppet cuz you'd like to take all of the democracies down. You suck
Germans are smarter and know what is better for their country. No German car company can compete against Tesla now.
Don't invest in a country whose government is not competent and unwilling to protect your investment
Someone is paying them.
Someone is paying you too. So what?
This makes no sense ... I was on the ubahn in Berlin last week and saw a guy with a stop tesla shirt. I wanted to walk up and ask his thoughts, but you could tell he was someone who you couldn't talk to. The chip on his shoulder was huge. I think it's financed by oil... only thing that makes sense.
No. They are protesting against capitalism. They are hardcore socialists..
Was it pork or lamb?
I wonder if the issue is the USA media going after musk in USA and that somehow influencing what Germans think. When I lived in Germany, Germans were concerned if I supported Obama over Bush.
Outside of the orange cheato .. I don6think they care what we think
I'm still trying to understand what's going on here - they're protesting against Tesla expanding because that's going to harm the environment? These guys are geniuses.
what would happen if there were no electric vehicles in germany. And all their plants for ice were shut down. and why pick on tesla. what about BMW or VW
Why are they only protesting at the Tesla factory? I'm sure they have some Capitalism at other car manufacturers.
You run a state, so you're responsible for what happens. Germany, like France, are 2 countries where you shouldn't invest to manufacture anything, unless you're German or French. I've always thought that GigaBerlin was a big mistake, and that it would have been better to go 200 km away to Poland, where wages are lower, standards are less stringent, and people are more likely to want to work. BYD is going to Hungary, not Germany. Building the Berlin plant was a nightmare, with abstruse rules, lawsuits from Green League and Nabu (which are financed by BMW and VW respectively). The factory has already had 3 attacks. If I were Musk, I wouldn't build the battery part in Berlin, I'd go to Poland. It's not far from Berlin and there's a freeway linking the two. He can always attract engineers or workers (soon to be replaced by Optimus). The ministers are shedding crocodile tears, but how did they protect Tesla? The rioters had warned of their arrival, and the police had neither the means nor the numbers to counter their attacks. The German government is guilty of inertia, if not complicity. I've done a lot of work in Asia and I'd never invest in India. What's more, India is densely populated, but only 3.8 million cars are sold there every year.
France, Germany and India are the 3 countries to avoid for Tesla in my opinion.
It's surprising the government let's this goes on. Totally incompetent
Tesla is the #1 world leader in EV’s accelerating Solar & battery storage systems. Germany’s youth is protesting those efforts. Let them keep their old ICE cars and let their economy crumble because of it. Some lessons need to be learned the hard way.
Elon Musk must be stopped!!
wrg
@@kallekas8551 From what , cleaning up the planet?
Nonsense -- Germany is the EU's largest economy, and EU stability and prosperity is central to US stability and prosperity. It's a small, small, world and getting smaller.
@@johnfife3062 EU needs one military. Time to give up the idea that your going to be attacking each other.
This can be stopped
For me it’s more a Problem in this specific region.
these tree huggers should be hugging telsla cars
If they were in fact tree huggers, which seems unproven...
I get a strong whiff of auto unions and legacy auto makers behind this . . .
(there also maybe a soupçon of not-invented-here too).
Who exports the most EVs?
@@justinr9753 China?
They are protesting against capitalism. They are hardcore socialists..
Obviously, Germany has had a large number of former Californians move there... shame.
There has been an oil crisis like every decade, why hasn't Germany created more hybrids and EVs? Automaker money is cool, but reliance on oil imports is not cool.
I always said Tesla should have picked Spain: around Valencia, they have a large car industry, a young population with degrees and desperate for work, fewer restrictions and lower wages than Germany, yet on the border with France, close to Italy and the entire Euro network of roads... Spain would co-operate and welcome Tesla.
Siesta wouldn't sit well with Elon though.
lol.@@matiashamalainen7965
They're hooligans!
I don't understand why anyone would be this angry at EVs
Because of misinformation and oil money
Tesla should have come to Portugal, we already have a car factory and the supporting industries.
Why is it land grabbing if the land was sold to Tesla?
I thought they were mad about the destruction of their nord pipes but no its these greenies the nazis are silly like that.
so... why were they protesting? Sounds like half of the story.
Apparently they have been payed to do so...
They claim Tesla wanted to expand into the nearby forest which would lose trees, and Tesla uses too much water. Sounds a bit fishy to me, not enough reason to launch a full scale protest like this.
They are protesting capitalism. They’re socialists.
Bums working for crack money? Nobody knows.
IT is said that Tesla cut some corners regarding environmental safety standards. There have been "accidents" at the facility that polluted the water resources in the area. The area is a natural Reservation with a big water shortage within the last couple of years...
If they had built elswhere in Germany, there probably wouldnt have been such problems.
Insane they’re burning batteries in supposed outcry for the environment
Bought and paid for by big oil?
Sad Germans, you use to be a very respected nation , sadly not now , this was sad to watch.
I used to think similar to this. But in the end what happens here can happen there. It just takes a while for the infection to spread.
Do you believe me now that Tesla should relocate production for Europe to other friendlier countries, like Spain or other places? As a shareholder I can't condone even any penny more invested in Gruenheide
Permanently?
I mean is Germany NEVER going recover from this?
I guess you can't fix stupid 🤦♂️
No EV detractors posting? 🤔
Ok, thats one side of the story.
I wonder what the other side say?
Whatever they are paid say.
You could have used the pronunciation hinted by the huh beck article... with emphasis on huh😮
Should giga-Berlin have been built in Poland or France?
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Not that anyone wants to cater to violent protest but perhaps Tesla should leave the woods intact and just build up instead of out . This will expose their real motives for protest if they continue after that. Don't these people have jobs to go to?
I think you've just discovered their motive with your question.
❤
Lol the german police have only been writing strongly worded letters lol. Import the french ones!
Sounds like a great place to be building bicycles. Would the protesters storm a bicycle factory? I also like bicycles and they also help with a transition.
I didn't think the German government was so weak as to let this happen.
Tree dwellers.
But, but, but we have freedom, freedom to cause chaos, freedom to cause damage to public properties and destroy the economy.
In Sweden these are the rules: § 1 Anyone who in a public place participates in or stays in connection with a public gathering, which constitutes a demonstration or which is otherwise held for deliberation, expression of opinion or information on a public or individual matter, may not fully or partially cover the face in a way that - makes identification difficult. Elon Musk does a lot of good for humanity but sometimes he makes very stupid comments about different topics. It looks like Elon does not like the left wing of humanity and he seem to bundle up all categories of left wingers to one entity and he calls them "left wingers", he should visit Sweden and find out what kind of different left wingers there is.
In USA Elon seem to be a pro republican so he is for terrorists because Reagan republicans and especially MAGA republicans are the right wing representatives of USA or does he separate Reagan republicans from MAGA if so he should separate left wingers from "left wingers". In Sweden Elon have some problems with IF Metall (trade union). I fully agree with Elon what IF Metall is doing is wrong because they act like a gangster group. Sweden is a democratic country with its positive and negative sides (who is 100% perfect), I have lived in this country for almost all my life and I prefer to live here than in North Korea. The "protesters" in Germany, those who are arrested let them pay for everything they have done and if they can not do that let their sponsors help them out.
Btw., Sweden also has the highest firearm-related death rate per 100,000 population in Europe.
Did you by chance read what you just said there? 🤣
@@aaaaa5272 One in sixteen Swedes own a firearm, and a quarter of their country were born in countries other that Sweden. And have a guess how much of the crime and how many of the homicides that "small" group accounts for? Top tip: Swedish nationals aren't that trigger happy.
@@justinr9753 I tried to start a discussion about what is what and who are behind all of it and other topics
@@aaaaa5272 If a country import loads of criminals what to expect...
Tesla is the only company in the world whose stated mission is to reduce global warming and Tesla is the only company who can financially occomplish this. Tesla is our only hope
Only company? I disagree. Please check other company missions.
I would say that to if i would have spaceships poluting like crazy could be still worth it for exterial mining
Enough lies from you lol
I'm with you! Tesla taking on Big Oil, The auto industry, Utilities and the space industry. Yikes that's formidable opponents. Lot's of reason for fake news and sneaky political action.
Tesla can't do this alone, we all need to work together on this
I still don’t understand why green activists attack a company which helps building up green transportation.
Because Elon is not a lefty wokeflake. That's basically it.
Because Tesla, a capitalist entity, helping save the world goes against their anti-capitalist ideology. These people can accept the world going to hell as long as they can take a perceived moral high ground. But they cannot accept the world being saved in a way that ruins their ideology. It's like religious extremism, really.
So, what's their gripe?
They are protesting against capitalism. They are hardcore socialists..
Oh, the usual. More money, more
freedom, more air.
Hello mate just 23 wtf
The German youth who are clearly living in cuckoo land, let them have there way, i knew it was a mistake for Tesla to base its new factory there, the UK will always be far better to build cars and batteries.
no such thing as angry or for or get or lose or etc
Germany has antifa also
Each car company has to work with Tesla ask that they can use the Tech. If those companies won’t or can’t the government has to support new electric car companies within Germany. China has been doing it right if you can’t beat them join them. US must follow suit. If countries don’t read the tea leaves Tesla and BYD will dominate.
guess who is behind?
Guess Who? Interesting. Never thought about that band before!
The protesters should protest UEFA and the Euro 2024 football/soccer event because it is sponsored by a Chinese EV maker named BYD. Tesla is not the real enemy of European automakers and European economy.
Those are Germany's future leaders... so be wise and don't buy German or support their idiocy as it will get worse in the future. But it's not like Germany has ever bought into political violence and destruction right?
Yeah. While violence is completely unknown in the land of the free, the land of unicorns and orange mobsters, right?
These are paid actors, IMHO. Their actions make no sense.
They are socialists opposing capitalism.
There are different minister for finance and economy in Germany;)
Why?...
@@nyanbrox5418 different Resorts, always have been. Is it one ministry in Australia?
@@nyanbrox5418 - bc the states *finance* and corporate interests *economy* I has to be balanced, unlike in the US where the government is already fully corrupted, correction: corporate controlled.
@agn855 ah I see, it is indeed true that the US government recieves an inordinate amount of "political donations", from oil companies and the ice auto business and whatnot, I suppose it might be cheaper if they only need to "donate" to fewer people
Sam, you’re a reasonable chap. Before you judge the protestors, why don't you get one (or more) of their leaders on to your channel for a wide-ranging discussion?
Judge them by their actions…
how can he? they don't even let us know who they are, as they are masked. I am sure they are not interested in a 'discussion' too democratic. Also, we might find out who is paying them.
People like me - working and paying taxes here in Germany - pay for the universities and cheap train tickets of these protesters. As long as these young people have a warm butt from the money of working people, nothing will change. In my opinion they should be jailed and forced to work. But with the actual government there won't be a change. So please wherever you are.. don't think that all Germans are like that. We absolutely need good jobs here in Germany.
Everybody has a right to protest !.. Like it or not !..
Everyone does not have the right to destroy someone else’s property and as a shareholder that’s my property
....yes...but not to injure Police Officers.
@@swanvictor887 Or destroy property or trespass.
You must be a Republican MAGA member who believes in violence.
@@radiogaga123 - Guess what, for that reason there’s courts. While Elon cultists are dreaming of totalitarian punishments to secure your stakes. Priceless
Oh look at me I am so superior, I drive a tesla,I am saving the world.
KOOKS GO HOME
They are stupid or bought by money???????
They are protesting against capitalism. They are hardcore socialists..
Stupid and bought by money are not mutually exclusive.
I want to extend my warmest wishes and congratulations to these wonderful people who were protesting against the evils of Elon Musk’s brand of Fascism!❤✅👍❤️👊👌✅
Who themselves wear the Fascist uniform…
How much you want to bet most of them got to the protest in cars?
@@softwarephil1709 In Germany?🤣 It will be public transport.
Yes, what you are saying is indeed hyperbolic and an overexcited exaggeration.
All part of the plan
Knowing what a big baby Elon is, I see the Tesla factory moving into a friendlier country in the near future...
Big baby? You are part of the problem here Luddite.
probably hired by Legacy auto
No. They are protesting against capitalism. They are hardcore socialists..
Just one more thought ... berlin is the most open culturally and least expensive of the euro cities. This might be an attempt to keep the gentrification of berlin at bay ... which does make sense.
Should have never built a factory in Germany.
Cold War 2.0.
Germans government was in on this
Claims of police brutality in the US? Most of that is precisely that- claims.
You have no clue what is it about
I thought you were going to shut down your channel if Tesla did the huge layoffs. What happened?
it was easier to take that video offline. lets just say that Elon has better data to evaluate business needs for the near future better than the guys on the sideline.
AI lives forever
I think what Sam originally said was more nuanced then "did huge layoffs"
They are just activists, because someone is paying them them, and bailing out from jail… now you know 😂