This is the exact thing that demotivates me so much, i get sad that im not good enough, then i stop doing art for a week and come back a little rusty making me feel even worse
😭😭😭😭😭 noo.. don't let it demotivate you. it gets better with time you have to stay through the hard phase and power through with studies and positivity
"You Plan Everything but barely start anything." This is me, currently and it hurts so much. It's the double demon baby of procrastination and perfectionism.
Just because you are afraid to start something doesn't mean you are a perfectionist. Most people are afraid to start anything because they are afraid they will fail but that doesn't mean you are a perfectionist. :/
" It's the double demon baby of procrastination and perfectionism." This reminds me of something called "acedia" basically, Iirc, some centuries ago, the monks or something described a thing like that, called acedia (there is article about it on wikipedia) - and It was, back then, basically really considered as some sort of possession or something, because according to description, person in that state is unable to basically "be here and now, and work on things that they are currently supposed to work" Basically, to not prolong this - Person like this, when they have to do something, feel like the "best thing would be to do nothing" - but when they do nothing they feel bored and unhappy and end up in like a circle of being tired of doing something, and at this same time feeling bored when they won't do something... oh, and in some examples, the person showed as an example (usually a monk) - they are often unhappy because "they want something" - but the problem is - they don't know what it is the thing they want.
I relate so much. I have so many RUclips art videos, but I have done zero as I feel like I'm terrible at art and there are better artists than me. ( And im lazy 😂)
This is very true. I once made some art of a character of mine and it wasn’t great compared to my other art. But then I did a second version a week or so later and it was at least twice as good
I believe its a lot more about consciously making better observations and decisions than just repeating same drawing over and over again, repetition mostly helps in reinforcing what you already do and giving you new oportunities to learn
To add on to this comment - Or sometimes it won't, or look even worse because making good art can depends on different things like your health or your environment etc., but making bad art doesn't mean you are a 'bad artist'.
There is no worse feeling as an aspiring artist in my eyes than being stuck in the limbo, that is, being simultaneously inspired and envious/demotivated at other artist's work. The constant push and pull between those feelings is tiresome at best and soul crushing at its worst
I’m in shocked you used my TikTok as your talking points for your video! Tysm for this video (and your other ones too!!). You tackle down art problems in our community and it’s such a fresh breath to watch them.
Perfectionism is what recently killed my interest in art. I've thankfully made amends and gotten back into it, but it's a hard process to learn how to balance my desire for what I want and what I'm capable of. I have extremely shaky hands and it makes it extremely difficult to do clean lines, but I'm learning to relax with it. I am proud of my art, I don't compare my art to others in a negative way, but I always held myself to a standard I can no longer achieve. I wish I'd made my realization sooner, 'cause now I'm rusty lol but the joy of it has returned. Art isn't an inherent gift in most cases. It's a skill, and one that is constantly improving as you hone it. Everyone is an apprentice at one point. PS I'm absolutely in love with milanote, THANK YOU SO MUCH! It's exactly what I needed to track the 3 major stories I've been working on, since I can never manage to organize them lol
this video just called me out so bad 😭😭 i've been wanting to open commissions since january but the anxiety of "what if i'm not good enough? what if i just end up wasting my client's money?" seriously keeps me up at night😭 comparing myself to other artists have been a constant plague on me especially when it comes to numbers... i know that my art isnt that bad but i cant stop thinking it aaaaa
This is why I never compare myself to anyone else no matter how skilled they are nor do I get caught up in perfection. I’m just trying to enjoy myself and branch out my creative abilities when I can
I think this is my worst trait along with procrastination, especially as a double neurodivergent person (audhd). I have all these ideas that i've perfectly imagined in my head, but then when it's actually time to make them, it never goes as smoothly as i wanted so then i get frustrated, which makes me put it aside for a while. But then, the while turns into days then weeks then months. And then i come back when i feel like it (usually after a long time), and the cycle repeats. One thing that helps me try to break the cycle is a quote i heard in a video somewhere "We don't do perfect, we do done" or smth like that.
I’ve been dealing with this for months now 😭 I hate everything I draw and I can’t even go one minute on social media without coming out almost crying because of how much I compare myself to other artists and sometimes its even harder when I work so hard on art and the post it and it barely gets any attention, it just makes me feel worse I’m happy you talked about this because I’ve seen a lot of TikToks about the topic but nobody has ever talked in depth of this feeling
This is the reason why I stopped posting art (on top of social media literally filling my body with toxicity and pain). I stopped most of my creative hobbies because it was influencing me so strongly in a very bad way. It started to feel like art was a toxic partner who would abuse you. I wanted to originally make money with my art but that sadly didn't work. It's easier to say "this was not meant to be" or "there are already so many artists that do the same things I do but better". Algorithm never "blessed" me with any progress and commissioners can be quite nasty. Art is pain when it involves career, money, and people. I will try to draw more again, but that time only for myself. The burnout was so real.
Wow this is way too real, social medias have eroded my love for art too but I can't just stop using it either because I still believe that I can make it as a fulltime freelance artist someday. If you're wondering? It feels like hell. I burnout very very often. I don't know if it'll be worth it but I already worked too damn hard just to have this little bit of progress. I can't just throw it all away.
The moment I started to monetize my art was the moment I stopped drawing for myself. The more I continued the more I burned out. But also I don't think I would've stopped since it was my only income. Twitter and losing clients dye to various factors stopped me. Now I don't even log in on twitter, found a job. Hopefully will be able to draw more soon again
As an illustrator, you have to become comfortable with showing your growth as much as your achievements. Art is a skill and while there will always be people out there that grasp and apply concepts better, it doesn't mean you're not getting better or learning concepts everyday. Absorb, apply, practice, repeat. You're going to do well!
This is the only art channel I've watched that tackles problems i always see in the art community but never see anyone talk about it. Please keep up the great work!! I always feel more confident in myself/my art after watching your videos
I used to be a perfectionist artist. I didn't fill my first sketchbook until i was around 18 years old and that sketchbook still had a decent amount of pages ripped out. I used to either rip pages out of sketchbooks or start over from scratch if i messed up a single drawing in my sketchbook. I treated it like a portfolio. Like every drawing in there had to be able to get me into art school. It took me years to get over my perfectionism. I still have to fight the urge to fuss over little details on client pieces, but I'm still so much happier and progress so much faster now that i leave the imperfections. My advice to anyone trying to get over this: 1. Every bad piece is a lesson that helps you improve. 2. If the piece isn't done yet, it may simply look ugly because it is incomplete. I almost erased some of my favorite drawings in the early stages bc the initial sketch and structural lines did not come easy to me and looked god awful. 3. Nobody is forcing you to share your ugly pieces. I have dozens if not hundreds of drawings that has been seen by nobody except myself and my most trusted artist friends. 4. Wanna know why people often prefer sketches over the final image? The sketches are often looser & have more imperfections. Those imperfections give your piece character and charm. Dont hide them. Zoom in close on the works of some of your favorite artists and you may find things like lines that dont properly connect, color bleed, etc. And when friends do notice these flaws and draw attention to them, its usually to compliment them and say how it gives the piece character.
" If the piece isn't done yet, it may simply look ugly because it is incomplete. I almost erased some of my favorite drawings in the early stages bc the initial sketch and structural lines did not come easy to me and looked god awful. " - My initial sketches, starting from the first line to the last line are refined. I don't have ugly sketches. I just don't allow myself at any stage for even one line to be out of place. In perfectionism there is no place for 'in between'.
I feel this deeply. I have been drawing all my life, and I /know/ im good, but sometimes I wonder if I am good enough. People have told me how my style is so cool or how my colors look so nice, how detailed are my drawings, but sometimes I feel this deep panic inside, and the voices in my head start whispering "Am I good, or are they just being nice?" "Do they love it because they have never seen something better?" "Why would they like this?" And sometimes, when I'm in the middle of a drawing, I ask myself: Do I love doing art or is it just the expectation of everyone around me that pushes me to love art? Where does my art love ends and my duty begins? I love art. Sometimes I love the process. Most times I dont like the end result. I hate feeling inadecuate. Sometimes I feel like I'm scamming people into thinking I can actually do art. And the older I get, the more I feel like im getting stuck no matter how much I draw and how much I practice.
Going to share something my DBT leader taught me almost 10 years ago, that I apply to many things in my life-especially my art: “ I don't believe in 'practice makes perfect' because nothing in life will ever be perfect. I believe in 'practice makes permanent'. ” It applies to learning new coping skills for mental health recovery just as much as it can apply to our hobbies and careers. Can't ever improve if you don't continue to try. Aiming to try again gives room for growth while also going forward because you're better than you were the day prior.
New pretty penguin here 👋 just wanted to say thank you. I put my dreams of being an artist aside after a teacher told me I had as much talent as a snail (in a very unkind way), and now, 20 years later, I'm finally saying F that and started drawing again. At the moment my art is a little better than chicken scratchings but your channel has been a massive comfort to me. The way you gently reinforce and motivate has been invaluable and I wanted to express my gratitude for all of inspiration. Thank you.
I just recently got back into drawing after like 10 years of not practicing and I felt the perfectionism creeping up within a few days of practicing. For me, the problem was on two fronts, the first problem came with my expectations for my art. I think that lowering my expectations and accepting that I was going to make mistakes helped me let go of this idea of being perfect. The second problem was that I was getting too attached to the visions I had in my head. I think it's better to let my vision and ideas develop on the canvas once I'm drawing, so I'm focusing on developing what's in front of me instead of comparing it to something that only exists in my mind
Is probably not the healthiest method, but I deal with perfectionism by bruteforcing my way through it. Doesn't matter how stressed out and anxious I feel or how stiff my body is demanding me to do something else, I force myself to sit there and get things done. I'd love to know any other way, but this is the only one that have made me achieve in 4 years what I wasn't able in over 20.
As somebody who started drawing at the age of 28 and has been playing catch-up with other artists who started when they were younger, what has helped me the most is aiming for improvement rather than perfection. - It doesn't matter how good I am now if I am always practicing because I will be better next week, next month, next year. Also, don't just focus on general improvement but on something specific and do targeted practice (e.g. I want my hands to be better so I will focus on drawing hands this week). Not only will you have goals that are actually achievable but you will reach them quickly, giving you the motivation to keep drawing.
You are not a perfectionist. :) And this is actually a good thing. I don't know why people make perfectionism into this virtue. it's not. It's a hindrance. It's annoying. It makes you miserable in life, not only art. And why ONL:Y artists claim they are perfectionists? :/
1:57 My dude you didn't need to call me out like this 😂 Every damn point you made, I was like "Hmm, yeah, that's me". Feels good to know I'm not alone (obviously), though, I guess. So many projects in my head, so many dead projects in my folders. And in the end, not much to show the world, or even myself.
i never feel pressure for perfectionism because no one's art is perfect, no matter what piece of art you see, if you look at it for a long time you will find some flaws, even in the hyper realistic ones
"if you look at it for a long time" - it takes me usually a couple of seconds to scan the artwork, whatever it might be, and finding flaws that are left there by the artist. If the artist was a perfectionist, they would never leave those flaws in the first place.
@@marikothecheetah9342 Every single creation in this world has flaws, and that's not a bad thing, is the proof of humanity, even the mother nature itself has some flaws
@@angelos-ro9qw Of course. On the reason level I know it. On the other level, I cringe, when I see flaws in something. Psychological issues aren't logical. And no, most artists aren't perfectionists. Perfectionism doesn't care what you do.
@@marikothecheetah9342 what kind of perspective is this? If you can find a flaw in anything you look at in seconds then imo you’re trying to find something to complain about. A perfectionist will still make mistakes, just like anyone else.
@@tommcdermott9875 "what kind of perspective is this?" - what kind of attitude is this? You just finished the conversation before you even started it. Congratulations.
The jealousy… And the perfectionism 😭 I have the perfect idea for an animation, a drawing Then I stare at the canvas… Push things back since I “don’t have the skill level yet” Then I feel terrible when I see others who are younger than me, making full on animations or drawings that look like masterpieces…. Then I feel like quitting. But a way I’m trying to find around that is thinking about time. It takes time to do things. Imagine how much time they spend doing that. It takes a long time, it’s not like they just pull the “talent” out of their thumb. So you’ll get there eventually. :)
3:26 The video explaining perfectionism hits the nail on the head for me. I used to draw frequently in my younger years and had a lot of artist friends. Whenever I shared my art, I had one friend in particular give me constructive criticism with the assumption that I wanted the feedback. Since then, I've been afraid of the guilt and shame of being criticized for anything I shared online. I was afraid of getting their feedback in particular because I felt like I wasn't good enough. I'm still trying to work through this and try to draw for me... but it's been hard. It's been nearly nonexistent but, at the same time, I don't want to give up the hobby. There might also be shame in that because I spent a lot of time and money to work on my art and I don't want it to be all for nothing.
I think it might be a healthy way of thinking instead of comparing but when I see people with just crispy lovely art it always just inspires me to want to steal tiny bits of their style that I love cause that’s what I want my style to be too and it’s okay to take little bits from everything !!
i dont know what happened, i used to be a perfectionist but one day I just stopped. Not coloring everything so when you zoom in you can see the background? oh well. Proportions don't really work? Oh well. I like the drawing and that's what matters to me. I don't care about anything else and I know that most people who will look at my art wont over-Analize it so there's no point for me to do the same.
Here’s the thing, I’ve never been a perfectionist, or exhibited the behaviors of one until high-school. I don’t feel comfortable disclosing all the details, but my art at the time…effected things in my life, so much so that the mindless glee I felt drawing before was replaced with a sense of self-hatred that I couldn’t ignore. That in addition to the success my other artist friend was achieving worsened it greatly. I began comparing myself to him often, thinking I could never have that same support or praise given from others. After months of hiatus, I returned to drawing, and although I still feel remnants of that time when I hated what I made and myself for making it, I can acknowledge that I have improved greatly, and will continue to do so if I just kept drawing.
I get jealous about how good some people's art is when it comes to lighting, hair, and shadows, and especially wrinkles of fabric, but I try not to let it bring me down so hard. I tend to feel uneasy with the thought of someone being jealous of my art because I never want other artists to feel demotivated by looking at my art and jealousy, when unchecked, can get really damn toxic and it can seep into someone's behavior towards others.
THIS, I've had a horrible block on digital art for this exact reason.. I can only do traditional because I let myself be looser, and nobody ever sees it, as opposed to my digital art that I feel obligated to post..
I used to be perfectionnist, doing a very clean, fine lineart. When I posted a drawing, If I looked at it for too long, I could see small details that I wanted to change, things that weren't polished enough.. But now, I don't Care. I have a more expressive and even "chaotic" artstyle. I enjoy drawing a lot more. I understood that It doesn't have to be perfect, I barely do lineart because It wasn't fun for me. Now, I try to focuse a lot more on the shapes and colors, the global feeling that comes from the drawing. It's so much fun and people can feel it. We're not perfect and that makes us unique. I stop a drawing when it's no more fun for me to continue it, for me, it's finished then.
guys, you all can do it! your art may not be good enough for YOU now, but keep practicing and you will see a big difference! always keep even your "failed" pieces bc in the future you will see how much you've improved. [also, great video bro!]
A very important note on the clip with the woman explaining perfectionism as a defense mechanism: The "shame" mentioned isn't necessarily from others. You may be doing it to ensure you don't feel ashamed of yourself, which is how it is for me. Be very careful with this kind of self-judgemental attitude; it's extremely difficult to detect.
I know its not a solution for everyone, especially if art is a means to pay bills. But getting off social media so i dont compare myself to others was a big help and getting me to enjoy art again. Another one that helped was moving to traditional art. Its a lot harder to be a perfectionist when mistakes are less correctable. Obviously you can still fix them with most traditional art, but if its a big mistake or you're commiting to somethibg with inks or watercolors or such you cant do as much. It really helos to accept a mistake and keeo going just to see the finished piece
For me how I deal with it Is I take the thing I like the most And just talk about it with my artist friends And then after that I look at the bad parts and try to fix it After I fix it it I feel fulfilled and better
One thing I’ve started to do to try and overcome my perfectionism is to show my art or writing to my friends to give me honest feedback about it. The fact that my friends calls something I make good, makes me feel better about the thing because I’m aware of the fact that I know that I see every flaw in it while other people just see it as it actually is. My art.
personal POV, but I find that I can coexist with my perfectionism by truly embracing Mark Manson's concept of embracing negativity--that is, accepting that I will always "chase perfection from behind and that's fine" when i embrace that state as being my default state, suddenly I feel like I can still be a perfectionist while also live with not being perfect enough. I suck, and that's okay. But I will strive to improve forever regardless, and that's okay too.
When I was in high school art class my teacher said to the class “if you are a perfectionist, then art is not for you. Don’t bother.” Also she made us do only realism despite that never coming up ever when signing up for it. I actually wanted to quit doing art because of her, she always singled me out for some reason. She was one of those “anime/cartoons aren’t real art” people, who in my opinion, should’ve just taught realism classes because that was the only thing she considered “real art”.
My big problem is I'm a perfectionist with (undiagnosed) adhd so I want it done right and I also want it done before I lose my focus. I've actually started to force myself to take my time on projects. So I have plenty of half-started physical projects (paintings, clay figure--where I only have a wire body, a diy mini diorama kit, dnd modular pieces), but when I get the motivation to continue on them, I'm happier than when I would try to do it all at once and get frustrated with it.
Perfectionism nearly destoryed me and i never knew about it that and imposter syndrome as i kept comparing my art skills were deteriorating and i was always shaking till.....someone pointed it out and i stopped caring and i actuallt got better,i passed that point in my life and while am not van gough am me now and imma keep doing it and enjoy,and i am making this post to say its not the end guys just keep pushing,that phase gonna pass,mine lasted for a year so hopefully yours will be shorter,anyway bye
I love your videos because you talk about this kind of things from a very mature and comforting way. im thankful for your work for us, even if i draw since years hearing this helps a lot
Perfectionism was defined as "professional" work, "realism" "beloved art" etc for me. But over the years, especially after therapy for anxiety and slowly chipping away at the things that stressed me out. I realised the reason why I had stopped drawing was because I depended on others to accept and like my art to give me validation that I was improving. Nowadays I just draw because I feel like it, because I have some spare time, because I have an idea and I dont care if its not my original design, I dont care if its fan art, I dont care if I'm taking the freebie or $5 commission that you didn't want to do but are still for some reason angry about, I dont care if its not digital. I still like that validation, but that validation isnt a I post, they like, anymore. Its more about fulfilling a request or surprising people with something they didn't have the skills or confidence to make or draw. And usually those people are genuinely happy and thrilled even if its a messy sketch. And I feel good because: 1. I enjoy their idea enough to draw, and 2. Happy that they are happy. messages that tell me my art is boring or bad or whatever, doesn't bother me anymore, because what I'm making isn't for them. Its for the person I am making it for, or the group I am enjoying myself being a part of. And I just find it funny that they send me the messages, because its not like I'm a better artist than them or their favorite artist so why are you threatened?
I think for me, I like all art because they are all an expression of you and your progress. We all don't start out amazing and looking at other people's art might inspire you to look up how to make that art and then branch out on your own, like what tools did they use, what drawing software can help you out, etc. I like watching people like Jazza because they keep showing me different art people do and how to get started from scratch. And you're absolutely right, this doesn't just apply to art but life in general, don't compare yourself to others to the point that you feel envious of them because they worked hard to get there and you can see if you can do the same if you really want to be there too. Hey, you know what they say, comparison is the root of all evil. Just use them as something to aspire to be and work for it. Easier said than done though, I know haha, we can all say that but I don't know how many of us actually want to try and just give up because it's too hard to get motivated enough to put yourself out there. (As you said, open yourself up to potentially shame yourself is painful enough to not even try to improve.)
I’ve basically always hated my art, am a major perfectionist, stopped posting because of it, and did endless studies until I was “good enough” to make original work. While this technically did make me a better artist eventually, it lead to me hating the process of making work and creating tons of unfinished pieces. When I started making art I’d post everything I made no matter how bad but the better I got the harder it became to enjoy the process or even like the finished pieces. Anytime I ran into the slightest issue I’d stop and do a ton of studies because the piece I was actually working on needed to be perfect. Ultimately killing my love for art and it just became a job, or something I was boxed into doing as it’d become my only skill. However recently I found a counter intuitive fix. Pretty much the opposite of all art advice I hear. I took on a personal project way bigger than was realistic, way too ambitious, way too much work, way outside my skill set. And it made me love art again, and see the most improvement I’ve seen in years. Because it was no longer about making something perfect but about making something important to me. I love the work I’m doing now, and while I still care about the outcome I care even more about making something I can share with other people. It’s a story, and world, and characters I love and need to get out into the world and that’s overwritten my obsession with perfectionism.
I'm going to add another thing here that perfectionism can stem from childhood trauma or the expectations imposed on them from authority figures (like parents and teachers). Not everyone might have gone through this but it is likely a factor. Therefore they internalize that for a long time and are afraid of failure, EVEN THOUGH it is needed to succeed.
Oh boy, this is me. I feel like everything I do is practice and if I practice enough then, one day, I’ll have to be good enough right? Now practicing isn’t bad but never doing finished work because you don’t think you’re “there yet” really does hold you back. It holds me back.
You are so right about so many points. About jealousy of young artists achieving so much in 2-3 years, but you don't know maybe they had resources and time for it. About loving your drawing first minute you finish it and then hate the rest of time. About perfectionism not about all details look good in the picture but about the picture being the same as you imagine and want it to be. I really love some 'sketchy' art style of some artists but every time I try to replicate something I see my own art as too messy and when I fix too much it I had to fix other part to clean too for consistency. My only solution for now is almost completely cut myself from following other artists aside from when I gather references, to not be overjealous.
oh man. i got recc'd this video and i'm really appreciative that you've made this. i have so much to say. SO much. i've been remarkably perfectionist about my art to the point that i've stopped myself from making things for years and years. it was really bad, and it turned out i had OCD (not "wash your hands a lot of times" type, but subtypes like perfectionism OCD, morality OCD, responsibility OCD, the sort of OCD that makes me feel like i NEED to be the best at everything, i NEED to be responsible for everyone else because no one else can do the job right, i NEED to always have the high ground etc...) and i could directly connect this to ways i'd been treated irl, online, in art spaces, trying to go to art college, etc. for me, perfectionism is seeking the feeling that it's okay for me to exist. that i can share something and it WON'T immediately get torn to shreds, that it is "good enough" by some magical objective standard (more on this later) but ultimately... perfectionism is at odds with the self being good enough to exist by virtue of being oneself! to only be worthy of existence because of being perfect... it's a painful road i definitely agree with the video you showed earlier that talked about perfectionism as a method of self-protection, a "defense mechanism that avoids shame and judgement and blame"... but in the end that puts fear at the forefront of your life, not care. something that has helped me (but this road is still very VERY hard) is to remember that the imperfections mean i'm alive. when i watch an animation and i see some error, it makes me smile usually. when i play a game and encounter a glitch, i like that? i like feeling "there's a story behind this, i can see that other people made this, these people made something and its real, and i can relate to making mistakes" yet... when /i/ am not perfect, i judge myself. why? i want to exist, i want to be good enough to exist and share my work, and i need to be willing to stand up for myself TO myself. because perfectionism, being one's own worst critic, is a defense mechanism that turns us into bullies towards ourselves. we fear ourselves so that we avoid fearing others i do feel that a healthy amount of self criticism can help with growth, but i also feel that self-love is more of a motivator for anything i've ever made and any growth i've ever done... so where does that go? and why? For me personally, having tried to go to art college and follow some "objective" standard of good art... i realized a few things: 1- perfectionism is actually at odds with experimentation/exploration, which is why it strangles art production/happiness. sure, there are the troubled geniuses who experiment and are perfectionist, but they do suffer a lot. experimentation is a form of exploration, and exploring only really comes with doing something you're /uncertain/ about. being confident and comfortable enough with uncertainty, that you explore... think of children and how they definitely don't know how to do abc or xyz, but boy are they ready to rush in and learn! they're open with learning and exploring, they love to explore generally (unless they've been hurt or discouraged from it, which is heartbreaking) art is, to me, often an exploration of something, something we care about and want to share... so... if we act in perfectionist ways, we're in essence stating that we are only allowed to explore and share if its Good enough. it implies there is art that we can make that is just too bad to ever matter. but it holds something that matters to us! if art we make can be Undeserving, and it holds feelings we have, that can hurt! it can make us feel like our /feelings/ are undeserving... where does that come from? 2- capitalism completely fucks with art, valuing what makes money, encouraging competition and isolation, actively discouraging personal art... and that fucked with me immensely there's a LOT i can say about this one, it's hard to summarize and i've already written a lot but... i'll try to be succinct i had gone to some meeting for asking questions about full sail university when i was first looking into colleges. i asked if the representative if they had 2d animation, and the guy literally laughed in my face and said "that's not where the money is" i can't overstate how shocking this was to me as a 17 or so year old. my passion, my dream, was literally being laughed at because money mattered more art often gets treated in ways that overvalue money and audience consumption. commissioners who act like prices should be lowered because they want the art, fans who act like you should change what you do because they want it different, people who act like "the customer is always right" applies to your own personal artwork! artists who try to maintain their own vision can often be bullied, ridiculed , ignored by general adherence to a vague idea of what art "should" look like, even though not everyone values the "industry standard"! people cannot conceptualize that someone may be happier with their art looking less polished, so on. i was one of those people! i was insecure in many ways because of how i felt i needed to be perfect, and i didn't understand how others could exist without wanting to be perfect. i felt like having my own unique voice was not "accessible" and i got repeatedly turned down by different companies, i had bad experiences with schools trying to mold me for the industry, and so on but the thing about what makes money, is that often times algorithms and such try to mold what makes money into an easy formula... experimentation is viewed as risk, sincerity and nuance and individuality is not actually as easy to sell as outrage and cookie cutter slogans. this is by the fact that... thought takes time and effort. our personal experiences take time, our growth takes time, it takes time for us to process complex and beautiful things, to process those things! ...and time is money. AI supplanting human artists is not by coincidence, people in charge who want to make money are well aware that the human element, the individual, is pesky to work with and they would rather make money reliably, cheaply, regardless of if some beauty or love is lost. workers of any kind valuing themselves does not benefit those who are rich. if you work for a boss and you're aware they're mistreating you and that you deserve better and quit... that's a problem if you're essential. but if there are a hundred others just like you, with accessible art just like you, who value the ideals the industry set and are willing to put up with a lot of crap... then you quitting doesn't matter to the boss. they'll find someone else. so it's better (for making money) if the industry discourages individuality. i used to feel bad when artists who were younger than me had better art but... why? why do i feel like my time is "running out" and i am "bad" for not having reached skill earlier? for me, it was ultimately that i felt like i simply couldn't "compete" but why is art a competition? it doesn't have to be! all of this is fake bullshit that doesn't help me or any artist really (EVEN the people who make money), and i don't have to follow that sort of system even if i have to live in it currently thanks to the US being the way it is. i hope every day that people can grow and realize they can do what they want to do, and they're not bad for not following some invisible standards, that they can decide "i am good enough" and that having self-love is NOT being selfish, that valuing oneself is NOT being stuckup. thanks for the video, a lot to think about and i appreciate it
Honestly, the "draw every day video" by PewDiePie brought back my passion for art. I had fallen into the "plan everything, do nothing" state, because I had forgotten the real reason I started drawing to begin with-- because it was fun. By planning so much and thinking about things like what's trending, what the algorithm would like, what might be controversial, etc. I had sucked the joy out of drawing... Seeing that guy PewDiePie draw just for the sake of it, it definitely help break that perfectionist mind set that you describe in your video.
Perfectionism is such self harm. If you take on a creative project and aren't enjoying the things you learn and experience along the way you just wind up with whatever you have at the end. And, if it's not amazing then you essentially have nothing. Which...yeah... there's no point of the thing at the end if it sucks and the journey sucks. But, the journey is most of the thing. And, it's what people are looking for in your art. I want to see how you struggled and overcame those struggles. There's story and passion in that. Perfection is just a picture I can pop a like on and scroll past. Imperfection makes me linger to understand what I just saw.
I once drew a drawing I was like wow it's so good then I show my sis and she said it's ugly I got EMOTIONAL Damage and uhh... Yea... Quit art....for 3 years Ahem anyways I got bored enough to try again this time my sister actually said it's a good idea and said it's bad But I was no longer a cry baby and she showed how to make it better my sis helped out eventually she Gifted me her old inknpen set I was happy but to scared to use it cause my mistakes would be ya know permanant so I almost never used it only occasionally but it made my drawings really pop so I used them more and more I started in like the summer of 2023 and still doing drawing :D what made me draw again is boredom and I always told ppl I can't draw until I realized I was just saying that for attention I did not like that I hate it alot when ppl beg for something they can get with some effort so I thought "I can't know unless I try" and viola thus commences my story
Perfectionism is honestly such a heavy burden on artists ;-; I’m no stranger to perfectionism, had many bouts of that since middle school due to very low self esteem and constantly comparing myself to my rolemodles and saying “I’ll never improve”, even when I was having so much fun. Shit was toxic, and in a way, did hole me back when low self esteem reeled it’s ugly head and ruined the fun. It boiled to a head until I started making a comic. Granted, kingdom hearts fan comic, but still a comic. Through that, I’ve been learning to learn that “hey, this doesn’t have to be “perfect”. It’s okay to have little imperfections, especially in comics”. Through making my comic (I’m currently on chapter five), on top of having so much fun making Kingdom Hearts fanart, I’ve learned to have fun again. To embrace all of my mistakes and be able to learn more about myself as an artist and what I’ve learned in terms of making comics and art
I'm not good enough, and I can't help but be jealous of other artists, but I know I don't have to catch up to them quickly. I can improve on my own pace. My journey will be more fulfilling when I look back and see all the little things I improved on
I'm a perfectionnist sadly, i was on the verge of giving up drawing so many time just because i didn't feel like i was good enough. It was hard to accept, that i'm not my favorite artist, i will never draw like them because i'm not them, my art is stiil good, and i could always improve. It's hard, but i love drawing, i love drawing and telling the story of my characters and just because of that i can't give up even if i'm my biggest hater sometime.
ouch, that is me.. 100 percent. It makes it even sooooooooo hard to finish anything. Many ideas, maybe 10 percent of those ideas make it on paper and I barely finish anything..
Congratulations if u see this its a message. Remember ur first drawing ever? If not do u remeber ur old drawings or art pieces? U came all this way just be nicer to urself. Go do some doodles. Find ur fav artists and study their works. Stop worrying so much and caring. "What if people think my art is bad?" So? Is that what you think? If so why do you think this? And how can you improve? And why do you agree with this person why do you think this is true? Try new art styles go try new things and go outside of your comfort zone "ew i went out of my comfort zone and i hate this drawing i did." Ok what do you hate about this drawing and build from that its ok u are enough no expectations apply to you when it comes to ur art
Maybe picasso had a point yknow. Not trying to be pretencious, I never liked his art or any modern art, but somehow, getting older has taught me to appreciate it.
i think the idea of perfectionism stems from how art works and what its purpose is, it's to entertain and intrigue and be interesting but the part about it that's so difficult is your own perspective on your own things that you create because you know everything about your own art and you sit with it for so long that it loses its entertainment factor and it's interest and intrigue especially as it's basically a magic trick and you see how the magic trick is being done so you're not as dumbstruck by it because it's not new to you and it's basically played out before you even finish it and so you judge it like you would judge someone elses art which isn't fair to yourself because someone elses art will be at a first glance be more entertaining to you and intriguing to you because it's someone else entertaining you and it's new. think of it like this, there's a vast difference between someone singing to you and you singing to yourself, it just doesn't hold the same amount of interest and entertainment factor to it. but just like a chef you should be able to enjoy what you do and create even though someone that gets to eat it gives you a sense of satisfaction when it looks like they enjoy it, the difference is that it's not as important for a painter to paint something that appeals to someone specific so instead it becomes this thing that those who enjoy it will in a sense come to look at it because they enjoy it and those who don't will simply ignore it. but it's always this struggle to make something you enjoy because you base your own enjoyment of it that it will be the same that others will get from it so if you don't enjoy it you naturally gonna think that nobody else will either and so the perfectionist in ones self happens as a result of wanting to please ones self in order to please others. in other words don't be too harsh on yourself because you're probably never gonna enjoy what you make as much as someone else will enjoy what you do. in short a compliment is more enjoyable to get than it is to give a compliment.
I'm the complete opposite. When I see good art, I dont compare my art. My idea of perfectionism is improvement. You can never reach perfection but can always improve. I feel like so many artist look at a good drawing and say: "Why cant I draw like that?" Instead of sayin "What can I learn from that drawing." I think thats where many give up.
i think most people dont even realize how good you have to be to even earn 10 bucks with a drawing, and now with ai in the horizon, its pretty much game over as artist.
Ik im not a unique person ultra special, i just want to say that i finally get to a point that i simply dont get mad, before for make a hand wrong I would get mad and break the paper, now i make what is supposed to be my best drawing (or complete drawing, cus i was practice for 2 years without make a complete draw) and i screw it up 3 times, and i didn't get mad, idk why now im thinking it, but i will make it again but buying a mangaka pen for test, but yeah, find the calm in the draw, if you ruin it... What? You will get better, and thats the perfect reason to be
I know where my perfectionism comes from, bad experiences sharing art esp. at uni, and also a need to turn my hobbies into cold hard cash when the only skills I have to escape poverty are artistic ones (writing and music too)
I've been in a huge artblock since last year, and I've kept trying to point out what was the cause of this artblock, and you just put the words on what it was. Thank you
Personally, I've tried so many ways to draw and think I gotta nail it and make it so good. But then I look at other people's art that looks SO MUCH better than mine, so it makes me feel like trash. I can't keep one artsyle because I wanna seem super good. PLUS , I have BPD ( Bordeline Personally Dissorder ) I feel proud of that one drawing I've done, and then after, I'm not satisfied enough because it doesn't fill in this " high " that I've felt before. Hence, I never feel good about what I make. And I change everything to make myself feel better than others, special per say. Everything in your video is so true, and it makes me feel better to know I'm not alone.
It is one thing to critique a drawing. It is one thing to do it by outlining only the poor aspects and not the great ones in a drawing. I love how everyone wants you to be into the realism area of your art when they can't even get there themselves. I also like how explaining the intent in your drawing is seen as being "defensive". Like, we're supposed to say "yes. Thanks" when the person clearly did not get what an aspiring artist wants to do. When they do though, there is always a group that says "no. You should do this first" And what if I want to do complex stuff? It shouldn't be made a problem what I want to do. There is also the issue of jealousy, where someone decides to insult you at your core by putting you down and then try to sell you their "course" (Sal v Cloak, aka TheDarkCloak did that to me). He often said to me that my gestures were stiff, and even now, he tells me the same. Now? I see HIS gestures as stiff, and he is actually happy with his stuff. So, you know what? If you want to learn art, don't ask for critiques for a while is my advice. There will always be someone who will try to push you towards what you don't want to do or to mess up what you intended on doing. Be happy at the little progresses. Go on sketching.
I hate thinking on this. Its so upsetting when i realise i draw because it is expected. I dont enjoy it, i dont improve or try things. I just draw every day, because its expected for deadlines. But im too scared to stop
I used to be like that. I used to want my art to be perfect, and would get jealous of other artists. Now, I draw whatever I want, and edit things until I like how it looks. I don't care what others think. I like someone's art more than mine, I ask myself why, and point out specifically what I like in their art, and practice drawing like that. It's pretty fun. When I do get jealous, it's because of the number of compliments an artist gets, typically in a real environment, not online. I have a few artists in my family, and it hurts when they complement my cousin's art, and constantly bring up all the awards they've gotten in art, then they ask you, if you have gotten any awards, and you just kinda feel bad, because you haven't gotten anything in return. It's going to take time, but I do know that I have to learn and accept some stuff.
“Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.” ― Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, Airman's Odyssey
Perfectionism nearly end my art career I hated it so much and it kept me from having fun and experimenting because It HAD to be perfect, i was only able to some what stop cause I decided to try rendering for the first time after many failures ( the messy painting style cause I admired it a lot) honestly it helped me grow a lot and Im a little less afraid of making mistakes
This video just helped me realise that I am struggling with perfectionism, I now look back on how many pages of my sketchbook were just unfinished cat ocs.😭😭 ( *I’ve been drawing cats for three years, and I and very comfy with my style* ) A challenge I now like to do is sketch something and no matter what, do not erase or restart. Then look at it and see what I could improve on. Practically just the no undo challenge.
Hobie Brown saved me as an artist. He doesnt believe in consistency so why should I? Why should I have to be consistent in my journey? My artstyle may stay similar as it's what I like but it's still slowly changing as I learn. Because of Hobie I'm no longer pushing myself to stay consistent, i have stopped boxing myself in a corner of only drawing what I'm comfortable with. Right now, not as I'm watching this but currently, I'm learning how to draw torsos, specifically muscular ones and it's a mess, I'm using coloured pens for the sketch and then going in with a black pen. If Hobie Brown was never in spiderverse last year then I'd have never learnt that this is an amazing way for me to learn where I messed up so I can develop my abilities as an artist. I like to think Hobie would be proud of me breaking my ideas of what my art had to be, what others made me believe it had to be, and finding my own way of thinking about it and learning mostly inconsistent methods. My way of breaking down hands is completely different from how I break down torsos, inconsistency is my hero.
Honestly I wish people would just ignore things that they don't like, it's not worth harassing them for it :( I mean they wouldn't like it if people did that to them. We can all have our own opinions without hurting each other
this is how i feel everytimes, drawing that took a days but it's still not feel good as i imagined and it's not even helping no one notices whenever i post it on any other social media.
What I did to battle perfectionism is doing art studies! I looked at people’s art and I asked myself what characteristics their art had that mine didn’t. I did this with an artist called Marikyuun first. I then tried to replicate it, and when I accomplished it, I implemented some things of it in my own art! I did this with some other artists and I can say that looking at toher’s art and seeing what they do better than you and how they color, do lineart and other things really helps you make your work better. I’ve loved my art ever since and I’m always improving! 😌💅
Tysm for this video! I relate to this so much because I struggle from perfectionism that comparing myself to artists being able to achieve something makes me lack of motivation. I also struggle with ADHD and fear of growth since it makes me want to give up at art when it doesn’t come out the way I expected to be. Even procrastinating is the worse…
You know this make me remind myself to why I even started with an art post on My Deviantart to post all of my imperfection or unfinish artwork and I call it My art Vault. A collection of old artworks that I could never throw them or look at it during the time. To why I did this 'Art Vault" I have years of artwork that I just collected in folders or sketches books. I sometimes look into it and smile at how bad most of them are or wonder why I never posted them. So, I did that Posted them every Friday and explain them why the art the way it is. I feel like every artist should do an "Art Vault" Open that old folder of "WIP" or Unfinish Sketches and post them up. share the idea of not to be a perfectionist, everyone has those days of random doodles that never seen the light of day or sketches or an 'Ugly wip". Heck, I agree to what you say. This video makes me feel abit better that everyone suffers these same mental ideas same as me, not just the younger artist or the older Artist, Beginners or Pros. perfection and procrastination killed the creative artist and give then just bad vibes.
I made the mistake of uploading my art with a meme that went, "Based on my art, how old do you think I am?" None of the answers surpassed 12 or 14 years old... Mind you, I'm 22 (almost going on 23) That made me really reconsider some stuff lol
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This is the exact thing that demotivates me so much, i get sad that im not good enough, then i stop doing art for a week and come back a little rusty making me feel even worse
this video was just posted two seconds ago can you shut up
😭😭😭😭😭 noo.. don't let it demotivate you. it gets better with time you have to stay through the hard phase and power through with studies and positivity
@@MohammedAgbadi i knoww xp its hard to stay positive, but looking back at my old drawings from when i started and seeing my improvement really helps
@@MohammedAgbadi bro what is a study?
@@LowerBudgetOppenheimer i guess like studying anatomy for example
"You Plan Everything but barely start anything."
This is me, currently and it hurts so much. It's the double demon baby of procrastination and perfectionism.
bruhhhhhhhhhhhhh....the last part of your comment is so making me feel so......
Just because you are afraid to start something doesn't mean you are a perfectionist. Most people are afraid to start anything because they are afraid they will fail but that doesn't mean you are a perfectionist. :/
" It's the double demon baby of procrastination and perfectionism."
This reminds me of something called "acedia"
basically, Iirc, some centuries ago, the monks or something described a thing like that, called acedia (there is article about it on wikipedia) - and It was, back then, basically really considered as some sort of possession or something, because according to description, person in that state is unable to basically "be here and now, and work on things that they are currently supposed to work"
Basically, to not prolong this - Person like this, when they have to do something, feel like the "best thing would be to do nothing" - but when they do nothing they feel bored and unhappy and end up in like a circle of being tired of doing something, and at this same time feeling bored when they won't do something...
oh, and in some examples, the person showed as an example (usually a monk) - they are often unhappy because "they want something" - but the problem is - they don't know what it is the thing they want.
I relate so much. I have so many RUclips art videos, but I have done zero as I feel like I'm terrible at art and there are better artists than me. ( And im lazy 😂)
Hah this looks like a comment I would make
getting better comes in layers, your next drawing might not be the best of what you’re capable of but the next one will be better than the last
I hope so😭😭😭 sometimes the next three be so bad i wanna quit but then i lock in and the next one...
*_straight fyre_*
This is very true. I once made some art of a character of mine and it wasn’t great compared to my other art. But then I did a second version a week or so later and it was at least twice as good
I believe its a lot more about consciously making better observations and decisions than just repeating same drawing over and over again, repetition mostly helps in reinforcing what you already do and giving you new oportunities to learn
To add on to this comment - Or sometimes it won't, or look even worse because making good art can depends on different things like your health or your environment etc., but making bad art doesn't mean you are a 'bad artist'.
Exactly! I made so much bad art, but i kept practicing. I got better. But it really depends sometimes.
There is no worse feeling as an aspiring artist in my eyes than being stuck in the limbo, that is, being simultaneously inspired and envious/demotivated at other artist's work. The constant push and pull between those feelings is tiresome at best and soul crushing at its worst
do you like dogs?
sort of
Yeah
They're silly just like cats
yess i have a jack russel called honey boo ❤
Yess, my friend just got a dog named king and I’m going to see him after I finish the video
Cats better.
I’m in shocked you used my TikTok as your talking points for your video! Tysm for this video (and your other ones too!!). You tackle down art problems in our community and it’s such a fresh breath to watch them.
out of curiosity, which one was it ?
@@demiladeeethe one played at 0:29
Perfectionism is what recently killed my interest in art. I've thankfully made amends and gotten back into it, but it's a hard process to learn how to balance my desire for what I want and what I'm capable of. I have extremely shaky hands and it makes it extremely difficult to do clean lines, but I'm learning to relax with it. I am proud of my art, I don't compare my art to others in a negative way, but I always held myself to a standard I can no longer achieve. I wish I'd made my realization sooner, 'cause now I'm rusty lol but the joy of it has returned.
Art isn't an inherent gift in most cases. It's a skill, and one that is constantly improving as you hone it. Everyone is an apprentice at one point.
PS I'm absolutely in love with milanote, THANK YOU SO MUCH! It's exactly what I needed to track the 3 major stories I've been working on, since I can never manage to organize them lol
This is wholesome. Ly sad. I get carried away read ppls storys
As a professional artist... don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good! Just keep going!
this video just called me out so bad 😭😭 i've been wanting to open commissions since january but the anxiety of "what if i'm not good enough? what if i just end up wasting my client's money?" seriously keeps me up at night😭 comparing myself to other artists have been a constant plague on me especially when it comes to numbers... i know that my art isnt that bad but i cant stop thinking it aaaaa
Think of it this way if the client is willing to pay for your art after looking at the sketch or something they are CHOOSING to pay for that
same😔 I've been asked for almost 2 years now but I just can't do it
This is why I never compare myself to anyone else no matter how skilled they are nor do I get caught up in perfection. I’m just trying to enjoy myself and branch out my creative abilities when I can
sometimes you just can't help it and you compare yourself with someone else just a little bit and all the feelings start coming back again sigh
You got the right mentality, keep it up and you'll be a killer artist. 🫡
Perfection isn't when you feel bad when comparing yourself to others. It's just insecurity.
One of my favorite things is seeing an old piece that still holds up as it’s own artwork even today.
i have some of those and they make me feel really good sometimes...until i start noticing the mistakes❤️
I think this is my worst trait along with procrastination, especially as a double neurodivergent person (audhd). I have all these ideas that i've perfectly imagined in my head, but then when it's actually time to make them, it never goes as smoothly as i wanted so then i get frustrated, which makes me put it aside for a while. But then, the while turns into days then weeks then months. And then i come back when i feel like it (usually after a long time), and the cycle repeats.
One thing that helps me try to break the cycle is a quote i heard in a video somewhere "We don't do perfect, we do done" or smth like that.
OHH MY GODDD SAMEEEEEE
What the fuck is a neurodivergent
YOURE JUST LIKE ME FR OMG
Like fr we just wanna get out of the hood 😭
Yes sameee 😥
I’ve been dealing with this for months now 😭 I hate everything I draw and I can’t even go one minute on social media without coming out almost crying because of how much I compare myself to other artists and sometimes its even harder when I work so hard on art and the post it and it barely gets any attention, it just makes me feel worse
I’m happy you talked about this because I’ve seen a lot of TikToks about the topic but nobody has ever talked in depth of this feeling
I guess it's a good thing youtube is my only social media
This is the reason why I stopped posting art (on top of social media literally filling my body with toxicity and pain). I stopped most of my creative hobbies because it was influencing me so strongly in a very bad way. It started to feel like art was a toxic partner who would abuse you. I wanted to originally make money with my art but that sadly didn't work. It's easier to say "this was not meant to be" or "there are already so many artists that do the same things I do but better". Algorithm never "blessed" me with any progress and commissioners can be quite nasty. Art is pain when it involves career, money, and people. I will try to draw more again, but that time only for myself. The burnout was so real.
Wow this is way too real, social medias have eroded my love for art too but I can't just stop using it either because I still believe that I can make it as a fulltime freelance artist someday.
If you're wondering? It feels like hell. I burnout very very often. I don't know if it'll be worth it but I already worked too damn hard just to have this little bit of progress. I can't just throw it all away.
The moment I started to monetize my art was the moment I stopped drawing for myself. The more I continued the more I burned out. But also I don't think I would've stopped since it was my only income.
Twitter and losing clients dye to various factors stopped me. Now I don't even log in on twitter, found a job. Hopefully will be able to draw more soon again
As an illustrator, you have to become comfortable with showing your growth as much as your achievements. Art is a skill and while there will always be people out there that grasp and apply concepts better, it doesn't mean you're not getting better or learning concepts everyday. Absorb, apply, practice, repeat. You're going to do well!
This is the only art channel I've watched that tackles problems i always see in the art community but never see anyone talk about it. Please keep up the great work!! I always feel more confident in myself/my art after watching your videos
Appreciate that, thankyou so much!
I used to be a perfectionist artist. I didn't fill my first sketchbook until i was around 18 years old and that sketchbook still had a decent amount of pages ripped out. I used to either rip pages out of sketchbooks or start over from scratch if i messed up a single drawing in my sketchbook. I treated it like a portfolio. Like every drawing in there had to be able to get me into art school.
It took me years to get over my perfectionism. I still have to fight the urge to fuss over little details on client pieces, but I'm still so much happier and progress so much faster now that i leave the imperfections. My advice to anyone trying to get over this:
1. Every bad piece is a lesson that helps you improve.
2. If the piece isn't done yet, it may simply look ugly because it is incomplete. I almost erased some of my favorite drawings in the early stages bc the initial sketch and structural lines did not come easy to me and looked god awful.
3. Nobody is forcing you to share your ugly pieces. I have dozens if not hundreds of drawings that has been seen by nobody except myself and my most trusted artist friends.
4. Wanna know why people often prefer sketches over the final image? The sketches are often looser & have more imperfections. Those imperfections give your piece character and charm. Dont hide them. Zoom in close on the works of some of your favorite artists and you may find things like lines that dont properly connect, color bleed, etc. And when friends do notice these flaws and draw attention to them, its usually to compliment them and say how it gives the piece character.
" If the piece isn't done yet, it may simply look ugly because it is incomplete. I almost erased some of my favorite drawings in the early stages bc the initial sketch and structural lines did not come easy to me and looked god awful. " - My initial sketches, starting from the first line to the last line are refined. I don't have ugly sketches. I just don't allow myself at any stage for even one line to be out of place.
In perfectionism there is no place for 'in between'.
"You never feel fufilled even after meeting your goals."
YUp, that's me!
i just knew i was not alone fr
I feel this deeply. I have been drawing all my life, and I /know/ im good, but sometimes I wonder if I am good enough. People have told me how my style is so cool or how my colors look so nice, how detailed are my drawings, but sometimes I feel this deep panic inside, and the voices in my head start whispering "Am I good, or are they just being nice?" "Do they love it because they have never seen something better?" "Why would they like this?"
And sometimes, when I'm in the middle of a drawing, I ask myself: Do I love doing art or is it just the expectation of everyone around me that pushes me to love art? Where does my art love ends and my duty begins?
I love art. Sometimes I love the process. Most times I dont like the end result. I hate feeling inadecuate. Sometimes I feel like I'm scamming people into thinking I can actually do art. And the older I get, the more I feel like im getting stuck no matter how much I draw and how much I practice.
Do a brain fart were you just draw anything and everything that comes to ur mind no matter how stupid it may seem
Going to share something my DBT leader taught me almost 10 years ago, that I apply to many things in my life-especially my art:
“ I don't believe in 'practice makes perfect' because nothing in life will ever be perfect. I believe in 'practice makes permanent'. ”
It applies to learning new coping skills for mental health recovery just as much as it can apply to our hobbies and careers. Can't ever improve if you don't continue to try. Aiming to try again gives room for growth while also going forward because you're better than you were the day prior.
Ok but that is actually a really good advice wtf
New pretty penguin here 👋 just wanted to say thank you. I put my dreams of being an artist aside after a teacher told me I had as much talent as a snail (in a very unkind way), and now, 20 years later, I'm finally saying F that and started drawing again. At the moment my art is a little better than chicken scratchings but your channel has been a massive comfort to me. The way you gently reinforce and motivate has been invaluable and I wanted to express my gratitude for all of inspiration. Thank you.
I just recently got back into drawing after like 10 years of not practicing and I felt the perfectionism creeping up within a few days of practicing. For me, the problem was on two fronts, the first problem came with my expectations for my art. I think that lowering my expectations and accepting that I was going to make mistakes helped me let go of this idea of being perfect. The second problem was that I was getting too attached to the visions I had in my head. I think it's better to let my vision and ideas develop on the canvas once I'm drawing, so I'm focusing on developing what's in front of me instead of comparing it to something that only exists in my mind
Is probably not the healthiest method, but I deal with perfectionism by bruteforcing my way through it.
Doesn't matter how stressed out and anxious I feel or how stiff my body is demanding me to do something else, I force myself to sit there and get things done.
I'd love to know any other way, but this is the only one that have made me achieve in 4 years what I wasn't able in over 20.
How many clocks do you need, bro?
😭as many as possible so i can finally stop procrastinating!!
As somebody who started drawing at the age of 28 and has been playing catch-up with other artists who started when they were younger, what has helped me the most is aiming for improvement rather than perfection. - It doesn't matter how good I am now if I am always practicing because I will be better next week, next month, next year.
Also, don't just focus on general improvement but on something specific and do targeted practice (e.g. I want my hands to be better so I will focus on drawing hands this week). Not only will you have goals that are actually achievable but you will reach them quickly, giving you the motivation to keep drawing.
You are not a perfectionist. :) And this is actually a good thing. I don't know why people make perfectionism into this virtue. it's not. It's a hindrance. It's annoying. It makes you miserable in life, not only art. And why ONL:Y artists claim they are perfectionists? :/
1:57 My dude you didn't need to call me out like this 😂 Every damn point you made, I was like "Hmm, yeah, that's me".
Feels good to know I'm not alone (obviously), though, I guess.
So many projects in my head, so many dead projects in my folders. And in the end, not much to show the world, or even myself.
i never feel pressure for perfectionism because no one's art is perfect, no matter what piece of art you see, if you look at it for a long time you will find some flaws, even in the hyper realistic ones
"if you look at it for a long time" - it takes me usually a couple of seconds to scan the artwork, whatever it might be, and finding flaws that are left there by the artist. If the artist was a perfectionist, they would never leave those flaws in the first place.
@@marikothecheetah9342 Every single creation in this world has flaws, and that's not a bad thing, is the proof of humanity, even the mother nature itself has some flaws
@@angelos-ro9qw Of course. On the reason level I know it. On the other level, I cringe, when I see flaws in something. Psychological issues aren't logical. And no, most artists aren't perfectionists. Perfectionism doesn't care what you do.
@@marikothecheetah9342 what kind of perspective is this? If you can find a flaw in anything you look at in seconds then imo you’re trying to find something to complain about. A perfectionist will still make mistakes, just like anyone else.
@@tommcdermott9875 "what kind of perspective is this?" - what kind of attitude is this? You just finished the conversation before you even started it. Congratulations.
The jealousy…
And the perfectionism 😭
I have the perfect idea for an animation, a drawing
Then I stare at the canvas…
Push things back since I “don’t have the skill level yet”
Then I feel terrible when I see others who are younger than me, making full on animations or drawings that look like masterpieces….
Then I feel like quitting.
But a way I’m trying to find around that is thinking about time.
It takes time to do things.
Imagine how much time they spend doing that.
It takes a long time, it’s not like they just pull the “talent” out of their thumb.
So you’ll get there eventually.
:)
3:26 The video explaining perfectionism hits the nail on the head for me. I used to draw frequently in my younger years and had a lot of artist friends. Whenever I shared my art, I had one friend in particular give me constructive criticism with the assumption that I wanted the feedback. Since then, I've been afraid of the guilt and shame of being criticized for anything I shared online. I was afraid of getting their feedback in particular because I felt like I wasn't good enough. I'm still trying to work through this and try to draw for me... but it's been hard. It's been nearly nonexistent but, at the same time, I don't want to give up the hobby. There might also be shame in that because I spent a lot of time and money to work on my art and I don't want it to be all for nothing.
I think it might be a healthy way of thinking instead of comparing but when I see people with just crispy lovely art it always just inspires me to want to steal tiny bits of their style that I love cause that’s what I want my style to be too and it’s okay to take little bits from everything !!
Inspires me to want to draw and steal tiny bits*
i dont know what happened, i used to be a perfectionist but one day I just stopped. Not coloring everything so when you zoom in you can see the background? oh well. Proportions don't really work? Oh well.
I like the drawing and that's what matters to me. I don't care about anything else and I know that most people who will look at my art wont over-Analize it so there's no point for me to do the same.
this is what i see in the art community now and it’s really depressing 💀
😞i just hopes it get's better
Here’s the thing, I’ve never been a perfectionist, or exhibited the behaviors of one until high-school.
I don’t feel comfortable disclosing all the details, but my art at the time…effected things in my life, so much so that the mindless glee I felt drawing before was replaced with a sense of self-hatred that I couldn’t ignore.
That in addition to the success my other artist friend was achieving worsened it greatly. I began comparing myself to him often, thinking I could never have that same support or praise given from others.
After months of hiatus, I returned to drawing, and although I still feel remnants of that time when I hated what I made and myself for making it, I can acknowledge that I have improved greatly, and will continue to do so if I just kept drawing.
12:56 that's a lot of drawings, I like those!
thanks!!
you. are. the. best. artist. youtuber.
I get jealous about how good some people's art is when it comes to lighting, hair, and shadows, and especially wrinkles of fabric, but I try not to let it bring me down so hard. I tend to feel uneasy with the thought of someone being jealous of my art because I never want other artists to feel demotivated by looking at my art and jealousy, when unchecked, can get really damn toxic and it can seep into someone's behavior towards others.
THIS, I've had a horrible block on digital art for this exact reason.. I can only do traditional because I let myself be looser, and nobody ever sees it, as opposed to my digital art that I feel obligated to post..
I used to be perfectionnist, doing a very clean, fine lineart. When I posted a drawing, If I looked at it for too long, I could see small details that I wanted to change, things that weren't polished enough.. But now, I don't Care. I have a more expressive and even "chaotic" artstyle. I enjoy drawing a lot more. I understood that It doesn't have to be perfect, I barely do lineart because It wasn't fun for me. Now, I try to focuse a lot more on the shapes and colors, the global feeling that comes from the drawing. It's so much fun and people can feel it. We're not perfect and that makes us unique. I stop a drawing when it's no more fun for me to continue it, for me, it's finished then.
:) I’m so early for once
Nice!
lets goo!!
guys, you all can do it! your art may not be good enough for YOU now, but keep practicing and you will see a big difference! always keep even your "failed" pieces bc in the future you will see how much you've improved. [also, great video bro!]
Thank you so much 😀
A very important note on the clip with the woman explaining perfectionism as a defense mechanism:
The "shame" mentioned isn't necessarily from others. You may be doing it to ensure you don't feel ashamed of yourself, which is how it is for me. Be very careful with this kind of self-judgemental attitude; it's extremely difficult to detect.
I know its not a solution for everyone, especially if art is a means to pay bills. But getting off social media so i dont compare myself to others was a big help and getting me to enjoy art again.
Another one that helped was moving to traditional art. Its a lot harder to be a perfectionist when mistakes are less correctable. Obviously you can still fix them with most traditional art, but if its a big mistake or you're commiting to somethibg with inks or watercolors or such you cant do as much. It really helos to accept a mistake and keeo going just to see the finished piece
For me how I deal with it
Is I take the thing I like the most
And just talk about it with my artist friends
And then after that I look at the bad parts and try to fix it
After I fix it it I feel fulfilled and better
One thing I’ve started to do to try and overcome my perfectionism is to show my art or writing to my friends to give me honest feedback about it. The fact that my friends calls something I make good, makes me feel better about the thing because I’m aware of the fact that I know that I see every flaw in it while other people just see it as it actually is. My art.
personal POV, but I find that I can coexist with my perfectionism by truly embracing Mark Manson's concept of embracing negativity--that is, accepting that I will always "chase perfection from behind and that's fine"
when i embrace that state as being my default state, suddenly I feel like I can still be a perfectionist while also live with not being perfect enough.
I suck, and that's okay. But I will strive to improve forever regardless, and that's okay too.
Not the Special Stage theme song from the first Sonic game
aye les gooooo!!!
When I was in high school art class my teacher said to the class “if you are a perfectionist, then art is not for you. Don’t bother.”
Also she made us do only realism despite that never coming up ever when signing up for it.
I actually wanted to quit doing art because of her, she always singled me out for some reason. She was one of those “anime/cartoons aren’t real art” people, who in my opinion, should’ve just taught realism classes because that was the only thing she considered “real art”.
hugs to all the artists who feel this way, let's keep going, it'll get better and we'll find ourselves and our happiness slowly but surely ❤❤
My big problem is I'm a perfectionist with (undiagnosed) adhd so I want it done right and I also want it done before I lose my focus.
I've actually started to force myself to take my time on projects. So I have plenty of half-started physical projects (paintings, clay figure--where I only have a wire body, a diy mini diorama kit, dnd modular pieces), but when I get the motivation to continue on them, I'm happier than when I would try to do it all at once and get frustrated with it.
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Perfectionism nearly destoryed me and i never knew about it that and imposter syndrome as i kept comparing my art skills were deteriorating and i was always shaking till.....someone pointed it out and i stopped caring and i actuallt got better,i passed that point in my life and while am not van gough am me now and imma keep doing it and enjoy,and i am making this post to say its not the end guys just keep pushing,that phase gonna pass,mine lasted for a year so hopefully yours will be shorter,anyway bye
I love your videos because you talk about this kind of things from a very mature and comforting way. im thankful for your work for us, even if i draw since years hearing this helps a lot
omg Thank you so much!
Perfectionism was defined as "professional" work, "realism" "beloved art" etc for me. But over the years, especially after therapy for anxiety and slowly chipping away at the things that stressed me out. I realised the reason why I had stopped drawing was because I depended on others to accept and like my art to give me validation that I was improving. Nowadays I just draw because I feel like it, because I have some spare time, because I have an idea and I dont care if its not my original design, I dont care if its fan art, I dont care if I'm taking the freebie or $5 commission that you didn't want to do but are still for some reason angry about, I dont care if its not digital. I still like that validation, but that validation isnt a I post, they like, anymore. Its more about fulfilling a request or surprising people with something they didn't have the skills or confidence to make or draw. And usually those people are genuinely happy and thrilled even if its a messy sketch. And I feel good because: 1. I enjoy their idea enough to draw, and 2. Happy that they are happy.
messages that tell me my art is boring or bad or whatever, doesn't bother me anymore, because what I'm making isn't for them. Its for the person I am making it for, or the group I am enjoying myself being a part of. And I just find it funny that they send me the messages, because its not like I'm a better artist than them or their favorite artist so why are you threatened?
I think for me, I like all art because they are all an expression of you and your progress. We all don't start out amazing and looking at other people's art might inspire you to look up how to make that art and then branch out on your own, like what tools did they use, what drawing software can help you out, etc. I like watching people like Jazza because they keep showing me different art people do and how to get started from scratch.
And you're absolutely right, this doesn't just apply to art but life in general, don't compare yourself to others to the point that you feel envious of them because they worked hard to get there and you can see if you can do the same if you really want to be there too. Hey, you know what they say, comparison is the root of all evil. Just use them as something to aspire to be and work for it.
Easier said than done though, I know haha, we can all say that but I don't know how many of us actually want to try and just give up because it's too hard to get motivated enough to put yourself out there.
(As you said, open yourself up to potentially shame yourself is painful enough to not even try to improve.)
I’ve basically always hated my art, am a major perfectionist, stopped posting because of it, and did endless studies until I was “good enough” to make original work. While this technically did make me a better artist eventually, it lead to me hating the process of making work and creating tons of unfinished pieces. When I started making art I’d post everything I made no matter how bad but the better I got the harder it became to enjoy the process or even like the finished pieces. Anytime I ran into the slightest issue I’d stop and do a ton of studies because the piece I was actually working on needed to be perfect. Ultimately killing my love for art and it just became a job, or something I was boxed into doing as it’d become my only skill. However recently I found a counter intuitive fix. Pretty much the opposite of all art advice I hear. I took on a personal project way bigger than was realistic, way too ambitious, way too much work, way outside my skill set. And it made me love art again, and see the most improvement I’ve seen in years. Because it was no longer about making something perfect but about making something important to me. I love the work I’m doing now, and while I still care about the outcome I care even more about making something I can share with other people. It’s a story, and world, and characters I love and need to get out into the world and that’s overwritten my obsession with perfectionism.
3 min early or 4..
how bout 3 1/2
I'm going to add another thing here that perfectionism can stem from childhood trauma or the expectations imposed on them from authority figures (like parents and teachers). Not everyone might have gone through this but it is likely a factor. Therefore they internalize that for a long time and are afraid of failure, EVEN THOUGH it is needed to succeed.
True for me. :’)
Oh boy, this is me. I feel like everything I do is practice and if I practice enough then, one day, I’ll have to be good enough right? Now practicing isn’t bad but never doing finished work because you don’t think you’re “there yet” really does hold you back. It holds me back.
You are so right about so many points. About jealousy of young artists achieving so much in 2-3 years, but you don't know maybe they had resources and time for it. About loving your drawing first minute you finish it and then hate the rest of time. About perfectionism not about all details look good in the picture but about the picture being the same as you imagine and want it to be.
I really love some 'sketchy' art style of some artists but every time I try to replicate something I see my own art as too messy and when I fix too much it I had to fix other part to clean too for consistency. My only solution for now is almost completely cut myself from following other artists aside from when I gather references, to not be overjealous.
Becoming violent just because they *THINK* i'm taking credit for their art.🙄💢💢
oh man. i got recc'd this video and i'm really appreciative that you've made this. i have so much to say. SO much.
i've been remarkably perfectionist about my art to the point that i've stopped myself from making things for years and years. it was really bad, and it turned out i had OCD (not "wash your hands a lot of times" type, but subtypes like perfectionism OCD, morality OCD, responsibility OCD, the sort of OCD that makes me feel like i NEED to be the best at everything, i NEED to be responsible for everyone else because no one else can do the job right, i NEED to always have the high ground etc...)
and i could directly connect this to ways i'd been treated irl, online, in art spaces, trying to go to art college, etc.
for me, perfectionism is seeking the feeling that it's okay for me to exist. that i can share something and it WON'T immediately get torn to shreds, that it is "good enough" by some magical objective standard (more on this later)
but ultimately... perfectionism is at odds with the self being good enough to exist by virtue of being oneself! to only be worthy of existence because of being perfect... it's a painful road
i definitely agree with the video you showed earlier that talked about perfectionism as a method of self-protection, a "defense mechanism that avoids shame and judgement and blame"... but in the end that puts fear at the forefront of your life, not care.
something that has helped me (but this road is still very VERY hard) is to remember that the imperfections mean i'm alive. when i watch an animation and i see some error, it makes me smile usually. when i play a game and encounter a glitch, i like that? i like feeling "there's a story behind this, i can see that other people made this, these people made something and its real, and i can relate to making mistakes"
yet... when /i/ am not perfect, i judge myself. why? i want to exist, i want to be good enough to exist and share my work, and i need to be willing to stand up for myself TO myself. because perfectionism, being one's own worst critic, is a defense mechanism that turns us into bullies towards ourselves. we fear ourselves so that we avoid fearing others
i do feel that a healthy amount of self criticism can help with growth, but i also feel that self-love is more of a motivator for anything i've ever made and any growth i've ever done... so where does that go? and why?
For me personally, having tried to go to art college and follow some "objective" standard of good art... i realized a few things:
1- perfectionism is actually at odds with experimentation/exploration, which is why it strangles art production/happiness.
sure, there are the troubled geniuses who experiment and are perfectionist, but they do suffer a lot. experimentation is a form of exploration, and exploring only really comes with doing something you're /uncertain/ about. being confident and comfortable enough with uncertainty, that you explore... think of children and how they definitely don't know how to do abc or xyz, but boy are they ready to rush in and learn! they're open with learning and exploring, they love to explore generally (unless they've been hurt or discouraged from it, which is heartbreaking)
art is, to me, often an exploration of something, something we care about and want to share... so... if we act in perfectionist ways, we're in essence stating that we are only allowed to explore and share if its Good enough. it implies there is art that we can make that is just too bad to ever matter. but it holds something that matters to us! if art we make can be Undeserving, and it holds feelings we have, that can hurt! it can make us feel like our /feelings/ are undeserving... where does that come from?
2- capitalism completely fucks with art, valuing what makes money, encouraging competition and isolation, actively discouraging personal art... and that fucked with me immensely
there's a LOT i can say about this one, it's hard to summarize and i've already written a lot but... i'll try to be succinct
i had gone to some meeting for asking questions about full sail university when i was first looking into colleges. i asked if the representative if they had 2d animation, and the guy literally laughed in my face and said "that's not where the money is"
i can't overstate how shocking this was to me as a 17 or so year old. my passion, my dream, was literally being laughed at because money mattered more
art often gets treated in ways that overvalue money and audience consumption. commissioners who act like prices should be lowered because they want the art, fans who act like you should change what you do because they want it different, people who act like "the customer is always right" applies to your own personal artwork! artists who try to maintain their own vision can often be bullied, ridiculed , ignored by general adherence to a vague idea of what art "should" look like, even though not everyone values the "industry standard"!
people cannot conceptualize that someone may be happier with their art looking less polished, so on. i was one of those people! i was insecure in many ways because of how i felt i needed to be perfect, and i didn't understand how others could exist without wanting to be perfect. i felt like having my own unique voice was not "accessible" and i got repeatedly turned down by different companies, i had bad experiences with schools trying to mold me for the industry, and so on
but the thing about what makes money, is that often times algorithms and such try to mold what makes money into an easy formula... experimentation is viewed as risk, sincerity and nuance and individuality is not actually as easy to sell as outrage and cookie cutter slogans. this is by the fact that... thought takes time and effort. our personal experiences take time, our growth takes time, it takes time for us to process complex and beautiful things, to process those things! ...and time is money. AI supplanting human artists is not by coincidence, people in charge who want to make money are well aware that the human element, the individual, is pesky to work with and they would rather make money reliably, cheaply, regardless of if some beauty or love is lost.
workers of any kind valuing themselves does not benefit those who are rich. if you work for a boss and you're aware they're mistreating you and that you deserve better and quit... that's a problem if you're essential. but if there are a hundred others just like you, with accessible art just like you, who value the ideals the industry set and are willing to put up with a lot of crap... then you quitting doesn't matter to the boss. they'll find someone else. so it's better (for making money) if the industry discourages individuality.
i used to feel bad when artists who were younger than me had better art but... why? why do i feel like my time is "running out" and i am "bad" for not having reached skill earlier? for me, it was ultimately that i felt like i simply couldn't "compete"
but why is art a competition? it doesn't have to be! all of this is fake bullshit that doesn't help me or any artist really (EVEN the people who make money), and i don't have to follow that sort of system even if i have to live in it currently thanks to the US being the way it is.
i hope every day that people can grow and realize they can do what they want to do, and they're not bad for not following some invisible standards, that they can decide "i am good enough" and that having self-love is NOT being selfish, that valuing oneself is NOT being stuckup.
thanks for the video, a lot to think about and i appreciate it
Honestly, the "draw every day video" by PewDiePie brought back my passion for art. I had fallen into the "plan everything, do nothing" state, because I had forgotten the real reason I started drawing to begin with-- because it was fun. By planning so much and thinking about things like what's trending, what the algorithm would like, what might be controversial, etc. I had sucked the joy out of drawing... Seeing that guy PewDiePie draw just for the sake of it, it definitely help break that perfectionist mind set that you describe in your video.
Perfectionism is such self harm.
If you take on a creative project and aren't enjoying the things you learn and experience along the way you just wind up with whatever you have at the end. And, if it's not amazing then you essentially have nothing.
Which...yeah... there's no point of the thing at the end if it sucks and the journey sucks.
But, the journey is most of the thing. And, it's what people are looking for in your art. I want to see how you struggled and overcame those struggles. There's story and passion in that.
Perfection is just a picture I can pop a like on and scroll past. Imperfection makes me linger to understand what I just saw.
I once drew a drawing I was like wow it's so good then I show my sis and she said it's ugly I got EMOTIONAL Damage and uhh... Yea... Quit art....for 3 years Ahem anyways I got bored enough to try again this time my sister actually said it's a good idea and said it's bad But I was no longer a cry baby and she showed how to make it better my sis helped out eventually she Gifted me her old inknpen set I was happy but to scared to use it cause my mistakes would be ya know permanant so I almost never used it only occasionally but it made my drawings really pop so I used them more and more I started in like the summer of 2023 and still doing drawing :D what made me draw again is boredom and I always told ppl I can't draw until I realized I was just saying that for attention I did not like that I hate it alot when ppl beg for something they can get with some effort so I thought "I can't know unless I try" and viola thus commences my story
Perfectionism is honestly such a heavy burden on artists ;-;
I’m no stranger to perfectionism, had many bouts of that since middle school due to very low self esteem and constantly comparing myself to my rolemodles and saying “I’ll never improve”, even when I was having so much fun. Shit was toxic, and in a way, did hole me back when low self esteem reeled it’s ugly head and ruined the fun. It boiled to a head until I started making a comic. Granted, kingdom hearts fan comic, but still a comic. Through that, I’ve been learning to learn that “hey, this doesn’t have to be “perfect”. It’s okay to have little imperfections, especially in comics”. Through making my comic (I’m currently on chapter five), on top of having so much fun making Kingdom Hearts fanart, I’ve learned to have fun again. To embrace all of my mistakes and be able to learn more about myself as an artist and what I’ve learned in terms of making comics and art
OK BUT THE FIRST TIKTOK OF NOT BEING GOOD ENOUGH AND JEALOUS OF THE OTHER ARTISTS (the good one) IS SO REAL (so I relate)
I'm not good enough, and I can't help but be jealous of other artists, but I know I don't have to catch up to them quickly. I can improve on my own pace. My journey will be more fulfilling when I look back and see all the little things I improved on
I'm a perfectionnist sadly, i was on the verge of giving up drawing so many time just because i didn't feel like i was good enough.
It was hard to accept, that i'm not my favorite artist, i will never draw like them because i'm not them, my art is stiil good, and i could always improve. It's hard, but i love drawing, i love drawing and telling the story of my characters and just because of that i can't give up even if i'm my biggest hater sometime.
Ello pls say a hi that would make my day
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I grew up being only complimented for art. When I got older I realized I’m not that special and that can hurt
ouch, that is me.. 100 percent. It makes it even sooooooooo hard to finish anything. Many ideas, maybe 10 percent of those ideas make it on paper and I barely finish anything..
Congratulations if u see this its a message. Remember ur first drawing ever? If not do u remeber ur old drawings or art pieces? U came all this way just be nicer to urself. Go do some doodles. Find ur fav artists and study their works. Stop worrying so much and caring. "What if people think my art is bad?" So? Is that what you think? If so why do you think this? And how can you improve? And why do you agree with this person why do you think this is true? Try new art styles go try new things and go outside of your comfort zone "ew i went out of my comfort zone and i hate this drawing i did." Ok what do you hate about this drawing and build from that its ok u are enough no expectations apply to you when it comes to ur art
Maybe picasso had a point yknow. Not trying to be pretencious, I never liked his art or any modern art, but somehow, getting older has taught me to appreciate it.
i think the idea of perfectionism stems from how art works and what its purpose is, it's to entertain and intrigue and be interesting but the part about it that's so difficult is your own perspective on your own things that you create because you know everything about your own art and you sit with it for so long that it loses its entertainment factor and it's interest and intrigue especially as it's basically a magic trick and you see how the magic trick is being done so you're not as dumbstruck by it because it's not new to you and it's basically played out before you even finish it and so you judge it like you would judge someone elses art which isn't fair to yourself because someone elses art will be at a first glance be more entertaining to you and intriguing to you because it's someone else entertaining you and it's new.
think of it like this, there's a vast difference between someone singing to you and you singing to yourself, it just doesn't hold the same amount of interest and entertainment factor to it.
but just like a chef you should be able to enjoy what you do and create even though someone that gets to eat it gives you a sense of satisfaction when it looks like they enjoy it, the difference is that it's not as important for a painter to paint something that appeals to someone specific so instead it becomes this thing that those who enjoy it will in a sense come to look at it because they enjoy it and those who don't will simply ignore it.
but it's always this struggle to make something you enjoy because you base your own enjoyment of it that it will be the same that others will get from it so if you don't enjoy it you naturally gonna think that nobody else will either and so the perfectionist in ones self happens as a result of wanting to please ones self in order to please others.
in other words don't be too harsh on yourself because you're probably never gonna enjoy what you make as much as someone else will enjoy what you do.
in short a compliment is more enjoyable to get than it is to give a compliment.
I'm the complete opposite. When I see good art, I dont compare my art. My idea of perfectionism is improvement. You can never reach perfection but can always improve. I feel like so many artist look at a good drawing and say:
"Why cant I draw like that?" Instead of sayin
"What can I learn from that drawing."
I think thats where many give up.
i think most people dont even realize how good you have to be to even earn 10 bucks with a drawing, and now with ai in the horizon, its pretty much game over as artist.
Ik im not a unique person ultra special, i just want to say that i finally get to a point that i simply dont get mad, before for make a hand wrong I would get mad and break the paper, now i make what is supposed to be my best drawing (or complete drawing, cus i was practice for 2 years without make a complete draw) and i screw it up 3 times, and i didn't get mad, idk why now im thinking it, but i will make it again but buying a mangaka pen for test, but yeah, find the calm in the draw, if you ruin it... What? You will get better, and thats the perfect reason to be
I know where my perfectionism comes from, bad experiences sharing art esp. at uni, and also a need to turn my hobbies into cold hard cash when the only skills I have to escape poverty are artistic ones (writing and music too)
I've been in a huge artblock since last year, and I've kept trying to point out what was the cause of this artblock, and you just put the words on what it was. Thank you
Finishing a piece is the worst because how do I know what is the moment when I know it's finished?
I got over perfectionism when I appreciated my imperfections.
Personally, I've tried so many ways to draw and think I gotta nail it and make it so good. But then I look at other people's art that looks SO MUCH better than mine, so it makes me feel like trash. I can't keep one artsyle because I wanna seem super good. PLUS , I have BPD ( Bordeline Personally Dissorder ) I feel proud of that one drawing I've done, and then after, I'm not satisfied enough because it doesn't fill in this " high " that I've felt before. Hence, I never feel good about what I make. And I change everything to make myself feel better than others, special per say. Everything in your video is so true, and it makes me feel better to know I'm not alone.
It is one thing to critique a drawing. It is one thing to do it by outlining only the poor aspects and not the great ones in a drawing.
I love how everyone wants you to be into the realism area of your art when they can't even get there themselves.
I also like how explaining the intent in your drawing is seen as being "defensive".
Like, we're supposed to say "yes. Thanks" when the person clearly did not get what an aspiring artist wants to do. When they do though, there is always a group that says "no. You should do this first"
And what if I want to do complex stuff? It shouldn't be made a problem what I want to do.
There is also the issue of jealousy, where someone decides to insult you at your core by putting you down and then try to sell you their "course" (Sal v Cloak, aka TheDarkCloak did that to me). He often said to me that my gestures were stiff, and even now, he tells me the same.
Now? I see HIS gestures as stiff, and he is actually happy with his stuff.
So, you know what? If you want to learn art, don't ask for critiques for a while is my advice.
There will always be someone who will try to push you towards what you don't want to do or to mess up what you intended on doing.
Be happy at the little progresses. Go on sketching.
I hate thinking on this. Its so upsetting when i realise i draw because it is expected. I dont enjoy it, i dont improve or try things. I just draw every day, because its expected for deadlines. But im too scared to stop
I used to be like that. I used to want my art to be perfect, and would get jealous of other artists.
Now, I draw whatever I want, and edit things until I like how it looks. I don't care what others think. I like someone's art more than mine, I ask myself why, and point out specifically what I like in their art, and practice drawing like that. It's pretty fun.
When I do get jealous, it's because of the number of compliments an artist gets, typically in a real environment, not online. I have a few artists in my family, and it hurts when they complement my cousin's art, and constantly bring up all the awards they've gotten in art, then they ask you, if you have gotten any awards, and you just kinda feel bad, because you haven't gotten anything in return.
It's going to take time, but I do know that I have to learn and accept some stuff.
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Mohammad: Hard to draw ❌
Hard while drawing ☑️
“Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.”
― Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, Airman's Odyssey
I was just complaining to my friends how I wanna cry because people younger than me draw better than me haha
timing is impeccable
no wayyy!!! you're good!! keep going !!!❤️❤️❤️
@@MohammedAgbadi ty!!🙏🙏 sufferings are temporary, skills are eternal!!
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This vídeo is really good, I Love it!
Perfectionism nearly end my art career I hated it so much and it kept me from having fun and experimenting because It HAD to be perfect, i was only able to some what stop cause I decided to try rendering for the first time after many failures ( the messy painting style cause I admired it a lot) honestly it helped me grow a lot and Im a little less afraid of making mistakes
This video just helped me realise that I am struggling with perfectionism, I now look back on how many pages of my sketchbook were just unfinished cat ocs.😭😭 ( *I’ve been drawing cats for three years, and I and very comfy with my style* )
A challenge I now like to do is sketch something and no matter what, do not erase or restart. Then look at it and see what I could improve on. Practically just the no undo challenge.
Hobie Brown saved me as an artist.
He doesnt believe in consistency so why should I? Why should I have to be consistent in my journey? My artstyle may stay similar as it's what I like but it's still slowly changing as I learn. Because of Hobie I'm no longer pushing myself to stay consistent, i have stopped boxing myself in a corner of only drawing what I'm comfortable with.
Right now, not as I'm watching this but currently, I'm learning how to draw torsos, specifically muscular ones and it's a mess, I'm using coloured pens for the sketch and then going in with a black pen. If Hobie Brown was never in spiderverse last year then I'd have never learnt that this is an amazing way for me to learn where I messed up so I can develop my abilities as an artist.
I like to think Hobie would be proud of me breaking my ideas of what my art had to be, what others made me believe it had to be, and finding my own way of thinking about it and learning mostly inconsistent methods.
My way of breaking down hands is completely different from how I break down torsos, inconsistency is my hero.
That's so cool, a character belief/attitude inspired you to see things in another way
Now i feel bad a bit disliking lavendertowns hazbin hotel redesigns when everyone is hating and i jumped on the bandwagon.
Honestly I wish people would just ignore things that they don't like, it's not worth harassing them for it :( I mean they wouldn't like it if people did that to them. We can all have our own opinions without hurting each other
this is how i feel everytimes, drawing that took a days but it's still not feel good as i imagined and it's not even helping no one notices whenever i post it on any other social media.
What I did to battle perfectionism is doing art studies! I looked at people’s art and I asked myself what characteristics their art had that mine didn’t. I did this with an artist called Marikyuun first. I then tried to replicate it, and when I accomplished it, I implemented some things of it in my own art! I did this with some other artists and I can say that looking at toher’s art and seeing what they do better than you and how they color, do lineart and other things really helps you make your work better. I’ve loved my art ever since and I’m always improving! 😌💅
Tysm for this video! I relate to this so much because I struggle from perfectionism that comparing myself to artists being able to achieve something makes me lack of motivation. I also struggle with ADHD and fear of growth since it makes me want to give up at art when it doesn’t come out the way I expected to be. Even procrastinating is the worse…
If only I could add an adblock for perfectionism in my brain..
But hey, never give up.
This tbh
You know this make me remind myself to why I even started with an art post on My Deviantart to post all of my imperfection or unfinish artwork and I call it My art Vault. A collection of old artworks that I could never throw them or look at it during the time. To why I did this 'Art Vault" I have years of artwork that I just collected in folders or sketches books. I sometimes look into it and smile at how bad most of them are or wonder why I never posted them. So, I did that Posted them every Friday and explain them why the art the way it is.
I feel like every artist should do an "Art Vault" Open that old folder of "WIP" or Unfinish Sketches and post them up. share the idea of not to be a perfectionist, everyone has those days of random doodles that never seen the light of day or sketches or an 'Ugly wip". Heck, I agree to what you say. This video makes me feel abit better that everyone suffers these same mental ideas same as me, not just the younger artist or the older Artist, Beginners or Pros.
perfection and procrastination killed the creative artist and give then just bad vibes.
My problem is that I'm 11 and comparing my art to those who are twice my age.
I made the mistake of uploading my art with a meme that went, "Based on my art, how old do you think I am?"
None of the answers surpassed 12 or 14 years old... Mind you, I'm 22 (almost going on 23)
That made me really reconsider some stuff lol