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Sport sedan skirmish | 2021 Acura TLX Type S vs 2021 Lexus IS 350 F SPORT
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- Опубликовано: 16 авг 2024
- The brand-new Acura TLX Type S takes on Japan's mainstay performance sedan, the Lexus IS 350 F Sport.
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If you wanted a Japanese performance sport sedan, you typically had only a few options. The Infiniti Q60 Red Sport was one, the Lexus IS 350 F Sport was the other. With the arrival of the Acura TLX Type S, there's a new contender on the block.
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0:00 The TLS vs. the IS 350
1:46 TLX Driving Impressions
6:50 IS 350 Driving Impressions
12:02 Exterior Styling
14:03 Inside the IS 350
15:46 Inside the TLX
17:16 The Competition and Pricing
18:16 The Verdict!
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LEXUS sounds perfect to ME! V6 More than enough! Reliable, exterior 10/10, comfort 11/10
Honestly I drive a 2021 Corolla se and I find the 4 cyl more than enough, for the most part we can’t even utilize a car 100% bc of speed limits and traffic especially where I tend to drive at.. I drove a Lexus es 250 and comfort was amazing, the exterior specifically the rear is what caught me in the first place.. it’s supposedly underpowered but it’s just been a nice car to drive
its hard to beat Lexus Toyota reliability. Even Honda can’t beat them.
I love how you put a specific time stamp for competition, you really get to understand the context more
The Lexus IS 350's interior may be a bit dated, but it's much more luxurious than the brand new Acura TLX Type-S's. You can feel the difference as soon as you get into the driver's seat.
I absolutely agree with you
Yep. TLX's seat upholstery will show wrinkles way earlier than the IS. It shows in dealerships, and in all the review videos on RUclips. I'm surprised the reviewers didn't bring it up at all. I have an old 2014 IS250, and my seats have fewer winkles than the brand new 2021 TLX in my local dealership lol
@@TheHij9 Well one is fake leather and one is real.. and you’d be surprised to know the Lexus uses fake leather.
@@Mc.Nuggetz haha. Hondas interiors are better than Audi, Mercedes, or BMW.
That's not entirely true. I have the TLX while my sister has the IS 350. The IS's soft surfaces are definitely way better and more comfortable, but it's hard surfaces look and feel cheap (e.g fake metal plastic everywhere, including the paddle shifters). The TLX's seats and soft surfaces are a less plush than Lexus's, but everything that looks like metal is metal (confirmed by Acura itself). So it's a bit a of draw imo.
Wow, complaints, complaints. I love my IS, love the way it looks, drives and the way it makes me feel. I am glad I didn’t listen to all these reviewers who rip this car apart. It’s an awesome daily driver, it isn’t meant to go on the track. Oh, and it will last forever in terms of reliability. Yes, it isn’t perfect but no where near as “ bad” as you portray. I’m 5’11, yes it’s compact but that’s what I like about it.
I know, that V6 has aged like fine wine if you ask me, sure it's not quite as fast as a turbo'd 6 cylinder realistically it's hardly any different. I went from a BMW 335i to a 2019 es350 and honestly I liked the power delivery on the es350 better. I'm sure the BMW was faster but you could hardly tell.
even though im a honda fanboy, I agree with you alot. The IS is great and he is complaning for little things like the small spoiler.
I’m currently shopping them both, I too am 5’11 and it is pretty tight in the IS, I know you can get used to it. But Definitely more room in Acura. And in terms of reliability don’t think you could go wrong with either
@@vincealince_SRT the Lexus with the tried and true 3.5 that they’ve been using for like 15 years would surely be more reliable but I’m sure the Acura is still above average when it comes to cars today
IS all day. I cross shopped both, and it's not even close. I love my IS every single day
Just picked up my IS 350 and it’s perfect ! Comfortable and reliable
A year later now, are you still happy with it?
acuras are all about that phenomenal handling ,confidence around corners and steering feedback,yes it's not the fastest on a straight line
Not an Acura or Lexus guy but I definitely think the Lexus looks better
Agree
The TLX is the best looking sedan on the market imo
That doesn't say much about your opinion now does it
Absolutely not. The Audi RS5 Sportback exists…
The TLX is ugly.
Uh sorry it really is not
@@HPM2024 the audi RS5? hmm idk they both looks great. but thats on a whole different price category.
What are you smoking brother?? Stop it !!
The red on tlx is 🔥 💚
You have to drive a type s to realize how good of a car it is. All the other cars are slightly faster on a straight line but I can tell you the Acura handles so much better
Bro totally! I test drove it and it legit feels like it's sucked into the road but in a good way? Especially with turns? Irs hard to describe but whatever bought a 2022 one 😃. Waiting for it to arrive.
I drove it and the handling felt like a boat compare to my BMW F32. But I totally understand the advantages of it, both lexus and honda are worth it just for the reliability alone.
@@XMG3 BRUH you're comparing it to a bmw ofc it handles worse
@@draxuno yes, but many compare toyota to bmw for reliability, there is no comparison also
@@XMG3 yeah it's just stating the obvious
Hard to choose. Both are really lovely cars!
0:35 “Lexus says if you buy an LS, you’ll experience amazing”. I thought this was an IS video?
Shhh! No one was supposed to hear that
I was excited to see the two cars compared on a track but was sorely disappointed that the IS in test doesn't have the DHP with AVS and Sport + mode. That version is quite a difference from the one tested. Would've loved to hear the comparison then. Should've gotten the IS 350 with AVS before making this video.
I assume he’s also driving the AWD since he mentioned the transmission housing in the way of his feet. This car compared to the type s is certainly not comparing apples to apples
17:16 this segment is great. thank you!
i’m a fan of both Acura & Lexus they are amazing
How exactly is Acura “amazing “ lol
@@Toyota4Life Don't cry just because they are amazing. Toyota is amazing, but Honda deserved credit too for being amazing especially how small the company is compared to Toyota.
Give credit where it's due, I understand that you are a Toyota guy, but as an import enthusiast you should learn how to respect the other makes. Being a straight-up Toyota fanboi really make us Toyota folks look bad.
@@hybridsnowleopard Not that impressive when you consider what Mazda (smaller than Honda), Hyundai & Kia are doing these days. Honda and Toyota had all the time in the world to position themselves as 'THE' peers, yet they decided to stay in the cheap lane and continue cross-sharing platforms with lesser FWD models. Genesis might not have the required dealership network to compete at the moment but their current product portfolio trashes anything that Lexus and Acura has on offer.
@Toyota4Life, As reliable as Toyota...better engines than Toyota...better handling than Toyota...more attractive styling than Toyota...as quick as Toyota (and where not, it still is with all the mods available)...and more forward-thinking innovative engineering than Toyota’s conservativism.
@@Toyota4Life Honda makes best 4 bangers K24 K20 superior than Toyota 3SGE and 3SGTE
Toyota makes best 6 bangers
so nothing to argue here we all know the almighty 2jz 1jz
I’ll say the TLX is the best looking car in the segment for sure, also when you see all of them in person you realize how crazy the TLX looks, it almost looks like a concept car
But there is no way you'll ever mix up a Lexus grille to another brand.
I've owned a 2007 Type S and a 2007 IS350, and back then the 350 would win hands down. More features and power over the Acura. These days the tables have turned. The Acura handles better and the interior is more modern. The IS500 is gonna blow the Type S away tho.
330i is doing the same to the 5
Ive had the type s for three weeks now in tiger eye & absolutely no regrets
How’s it holding up
@@malcador Quite well I have mods done to it which makes it an even better driving experience
I gotta say I currently own an Acura & was looking to possibly switch to a Lexus, but what what comes standard with Acura are add ons with Lexus pushing the price of a $45,000 car to ruffly $53,000
Wait so which is more expensive? I was told the Lexus was cheaper
@@jameshumphrey3425 Lexus with add ons
I would go with the Lexus is350 there both almost the same 0-60 time tbh the Lexus might be a little quicker I went with Lexus because of the looks the type s is decent looks but isn’t all that I seen one in person
@@rook3364 I like Lexus as well but wound up getting the Type s not only because I like the way it looks but it has more room than the Lexus.
@@djsthemetereman thats because the type s is bigger the type s doesn’t even compete with the is350 the is350 too small even tho it has a big engine in a little car
TLX Easily. IS is missing a wireless charger, color ambient lighting, LED rear turn signals, Real leather, and is slower than the Type-S while being priced too similarly. Toyotas own Camry has more features lol.
The type S compete with IS500
@@kromahj exactly
@@kromahj pricewise the Type S is actually cheaper than the IS350 AWD DHP package
The 2021 TLX, type S or not, is wayyy too heavy and the infotainment is absolute garbage (and I don't like the not very readable dashboard and the way too busy interior with that hugely bulky center console). I took it for a test drive and was very unimpressed. I say that as someone who really likes the older TLX with the NA V6. It's a bit more 'basic' but damn it's so much better thought out. You can really tell that the 2021 TLX wasn't designed by the Japanese ...
@@MrTresto bruh you gotta be 60 years old if you can’t handle that infotainment system
I don’t why I like Lexus inside and outside more
The Lexus layout is better
I was in this exact situation comparing these two cars. Ended up buying the IS350 F Sport. If it was my only car I would have went for the Type S, but I have a C8 for my weekend car so I just wanted a comfy daily for weekday duty.
No comparison between these two. TLX Type S is in another class.
Yeah it's not comparable at all. Literally 10,000 dollars more expensive and is an actual performance trim.
He should have compared to the A-Spec or Advanced Package.
Why has no one put the F sport vs G70 3.3T?
Saying an all new engine in an all new car is reliable in the TLX for a brand that has been unreliable for the last ten years, hurts my head. Please stop lying to the audience. You are speaking about something you have no idea about. Lexus is miles above Acura in reliability and the data backs that up. Just stop
Blake I thought we were friends
As a hard core Lexus fan, when they released the Type S I went and test drove and I almost gave down a deposit for one. But it’s the fit and finish that didn’t sell me on the car. Things from the door slightly protruding from the quarter panel, uneven gaps; I was really disappointed. So much so that I ended up placing an order for a fully loaded ‘22 IS350 instead
Nothing is built like a Lexus. Something I learned over time that a Lexus straight up doesn't compromise on build quality and it lasts for decades.
I don't think you get enough value with the Acura. It doesn't even have a power front passenger seat. Meanwhile my 44k Audi A5 has that and way more. The leather and interior are much better in the Lexus too. Also, the type S infotainment is horrendous with that little touch pad. The type S isn't different enough from the much cheaper A spec to warrant that price. Not to mention people are paying up to 20k over sticker for the type S due to demand. Meanwhile Lexus is leasing theirs without markup and with awesome tax rebates and leases at 0% interest. It's a no brainer between these two cars.
@@xfiringsquadx You think the outdated, feature lacking, V6 from 2006 Lexus gives better value? Interesting.
Did you see more than one car like that? That's interesting considering yeah the Lexus is better built that's about it. It's the same car from 2006 basically right down the engine. I find it hard to believe that an Acura on the showroom floor was in that bad of shape.
@@MercOne I saw two in very similar shape at two different dealers
Instead of making excuses about the fact that the Lexus doesn’t have the options it needs to compete with the Acura, you should have waited to make this video until you had the actual enthusiast version of the Lexus, the IS500.
Tlx s does not compete with the is500. Tlx is in the mid tier luxury segment like the Audi S4, BMW m340i, C43 amg and the Is350. The is500 is an oddball in between mid and top end. Has the mid tier stuff with their top tier engine.
This obviously should have been the IS500 vs the TLX Type S. 😒
Yeah. Or the TLX a spec vs the IS 350
Such an interesting comparison of the also rans in the class. If the Lexus had the Acura's newer interior and engine, you'd have a complete Lexus. If the Acura had the Lexus' looks (especially the side profile), RWD layout and quality, you'd have complete Acura. This would be a tough choice on paper, but driving them would make the choice much clearer. All Lexus had to do here was give the IS350 a version of the turbo V6 from the LS500 and update the interior with you know the same features you get in a top of the line Camry. Maybe stretch yourself to get an IS500?
I had a New SHAWD TL in 2012 and let me tell you. I kept it 13 months The steering wheel leather started decomposing and the driver seat leather had major friction wear after 4 months. The sunroof had a glitch and it would either stay closed or frozen in the on position. I traded it in for a 14 Highlander. There was not one glitch or repair needed. I traded my Highlander in after two years and I got $39,000 for it. The original sticker was $42,000. I prefer Lexus / Toyota for those reasons.
If Acura disputes this I will provide them my VIN #
@David Brown, Bummer. I & friends have a long experience with the brand and suffer no such issues. Sounds like a 🍋 lemon. However, your experience as much as it’s soured your opinion of the brand, is not statistically significant. Unrelated, IMO, the 2012 TL generation was the low point for their effort at Acura sports sedans. Unfortunately they took the incredible body style of the Gen 3 TL, and destroyed it with the Gen 4 where the front & rear ends looked butt ugly the same. Going forward Acura must have fired those designers because every newer Acura features attractive styling.
@@Snookynibbles agreed the 2010 to 2017 Acura cars were butt ugly. Newer ones look a lot better. Though I don't like the bulky center console in the 2019+ models, just feels like a big blob with no use, very crowded in there. Use a bit of negative space designers!! less is more!
(I also find the newer Mercedes Benz cars interiors to be wayyyy too busy)
Auto up shift in Manual mode is a deal breaker Honda need to stop that shit
Dude's straight hating on the IS..
Cuz It just can't compete again the Type S
Its bc its dated technology.
@@thynysan Some might say, "tested tech", or "tried and true"... But admittedly, the current IS platform is undeniably long in the tooth, even with the fresh restyle.
@@bliglum I have a 2016 and its literally the same engine platform and chassis. Its overrated as crap. Havent driven the new Type S yet but I'm willing to bet its far better in all aspects. The IS350 shouldn't even be in the same class.
@@thynysan Funny, I'd say the Type S shouldn't even be in the same class because it's FWD based. Sure the IS platform is getting old. But at least it is a true FR sport sedan platform.
2021 Lexus IS body with the power train from the Supra would be crazy.
Sorry but no lol that V6 is an incredible engine, great power and legendary reliability. The B58 might have a bit more power but it's a ticking time bomb just like every BMW engine.
@@85CEKR the b58 is quite reliable.
@@ii_dynasty depends who you talk to. The N54 was considered reliable and even won tons of reliability awards. Now it's considered one of the least reliable engines made in the last 20-30 years.
I bought the 2023 tlx type s last week instead of the Lexus is 350f. So far I haven’t have a chance to enjoy the car. the next day my catalytic converter need to be replaced the dealerships gave me a 2024 mdx loaner car until next week.
Wouldn't the Lexus IS500 be s better comparison to the TLX Type S?
Yeah my thought, type s vs is350….. I’d go type s all day……
I was between the Acura TLX and Lexus ES 350 Lexus hands down was the best choice Acura was just not as luxurious.
The Lexus is going to last the longest. The Acura will be in the Shop with turbo replacement, blown pistons, destroyed high pressure fuel pump, leaking high pressure fuel injectors, and a transmission replacement at 120,000 miles. Over 10 years the Lexus will ride and look as it did when it’s was Brand New
Bullshit. That engine is overbuilt. I have a 2004 TL which has had no serious issues.
@@gordonschiff3621 That was 2004 TL with no Turbo Bull Shit
@@norrisalusma3274 Show me a turbo engine without major repair after 150,000 miles🤔
I got a 23 typeS. The handling and power is wow. I love lexus as well, but their game is losing to Acura atm.
Should have waited, the 2024 gets rid of the clear plastic piece on the front logo
I got a really good rate so i couldnt say no.
The TLX would still win, but the IS 350 F Sport RWD with lsd would have fared better than the AWD. No weird bulge in front of the accelerator pedal, less weight. Lexus AWD is old school which means dead reliable, but doesnt really help much in spirited driving like Acura's SHAWD.
This isn't a fair fight, the S sport is simply a cosmetic package with a slightly lowered ride height and dynamic suspension...the Type S is that and more.
So you tested the wrong Lexus IS 350 F.
Why didn’t you get the rear wheel drive car with the 8 speed gearbox? Why did you test the Canadian model???
That’s on you.
This whole review is useless.
You shouldn't compare the 350 F Sport to the TLX Type S. It's not a fair comparison as they aren't competing trims.
TLX Type S is $10,000 more expensive than the IS 350 F Sport.
It would make much more sense to compare TLX A-Spec or Advance Packagewith Lexus 350 F Sport. The A-Spec is STILL $2000 more expensive, but at least it's closer.
While F-Sport is 'Sporty', so is the A-Spec. It's still 273 hp with a 10 speed sequential with paddles, and a handling oriented AWD system.
The Type S is a very special high performance trim, Lexus does not have a comparable option for this, I guess you could compare the IS500 F-SPORT.
It would be like a less extreme version of comparing the Lexus F-Sport with AMG or M cars. It's just not trying to do the same thing.
Wouldn’t Acura iLX be more comparable to the Lexus iS…?
The ilx is discontinued, the integra type s and the tlx type s both rival the is350
Having Honda and working at honda I like the feel of it for some reason when I get into A Lexus when I had to do service I feel very cramped very uncomfortable no leg room and I would stay in the honda family and go to the Acura for better performance and look the accord has not been getting much love since the 9th gen accord in the design area
This guy is a straight up Honda fan boy! lol
IS 350 F Sport
Lexus easily here
Is 350 without adaptive dampers can be a dangerous car.
The dynamic handling is hard to find in 2022.
I am four and half minutes into this video and I can already tell that you are the best product reviewer on RUclips. You set the bar for what I consider a great RUclips product review. My hats off to you.
Thank you so much for the compliment, and thank you for being a viewer!
@@cargurus I am more then just a viewer, I am now a subscriber. And by the way that is how you get subscribers, by not asking them which is what you did. When you are confident about what you're doing you don't need to beg people to subscribe. That's why your channel is going places.
Genesis G70 would have been great to be included. Hopefully in the future against the Type S.
IS500 v8 better then both
@@Toyota4Life No, not for the price.
@@hybridsnowleopard not it talking about price. It’s better driving sound and exciting car. High revv V8 = instant win.
Man nobody want no cheapass Hyundai
@@Toyota4Life definitely Lexus is better in every way, i drove my friends 2008 Lexus ISF the quality and induction noise is lovely! Lexus & Acura knows how to build quality nice cars
i love the IS500 i can’t imagine how good it feels to drive NA V8 high revving with RR racing tuned with intake exhaust headers it will put many smiles to my face
Lexus if you wants reliability, style and more for your $$$ . you can owned it for 10 yrs + not like other competitors .
The competitor to the Type S is the IS500 F-Sport.
Uh, no .
This is a sporty 4door, $55k comparison.
You didn't make this a fair comparison. Put the RWD IS 350 F sport. RWD is better unless you have a lot of HP.
Wrong lexus picked. IS500 should of been here
Please add an extended rear seat comfort test. Force yourself to sit in the rear seats behind yourself for 2-3 hours and compare on each car
Acura vs Lexus is like jacked spongebob vs Patrick
I always thought putting sh AWD was better than having individual electric motor front wheel drive on the nsx. It would be faster on track in my opinion. Honda just wanted the nsx to be halo with the tech.
I think it show how it's corner more smoothly with sh AWD than electric motor .
Drove both of these on the weekend, but with the IS 350 AWD as we narrowed the list down from Genesis G70 and Audi S4. We currently have a 2015 TLX SH-AWD (V6, Canadian model) and so looking for a slight elevation in a daily driver. The S4 is priced much too high in Canada, and the G70 with the fresh was not possible to find locally to test drive one (plus concerned with recently report quality issues). We plan to keep this car for at least 8 yrs, so out of warranty ownership is top of mind. The TLX Type-S is quicker, firmer suspension and an airy cabin feel. However, it felt like a step down on interior quality from our existing TLX, really shocked about that. The IS 350 AWD F Spec 3 package did feel a slower than Type S, but a bit quick than current TLX we have. The interior is a huge step up from our current car, and definitely a step up from the Type S, and all for a bit less money. We’ve ordered one, a 2023 black exterior, black interior and will add in the Lexus Sport Exhaust since the all the sound that is in the cabin is speakers (TLX Type-S has that as well). Now we wait for 4-5 months.
Let me know when your book comes out, would love to hear even more about your shopping experience
If you plan to keep the car long after the warranty ends, you chose well. I would have gone rwd but I understand why you went with AWD in Canada. Even though the Kia has a 10 year powertain warranty, you're far more likely to use it once or twice vs whatever length Lexus has, and ancedotal evidence is Genesis service is nowhere near the same level as the other luxury brands....Lexus has a good rep in that area. Surprising you think the current TLX interior is a step down from your previous model, but it is true the new Civic interior (while looking good in pics) is about a half step behind my 2021 Mazda 3 turbo hatch...both in look and feel of certain materials used.
@@alwaysup22 send me your email address we got the car, so now I can write you a chapter each month. 😉
The Acura grill on the front end looks nicer. that Lexus grill just looks awful.
Plus the TLX looks more muscular and beefy. Very good looking car
@@omairsh8 nah
Sorry Acura. People want that rear wheel. Lexus comes with sport packages not acura
Size wise, isn't the TLX more comparable to the Lexus ES 350 instead of the IS 350?
yes but one is a sport (ish) car and the other one is a family sedan. different audience while lexus is, is targeted for sporty drivers
Exterior dimensions are similar, but the interior-wise the TLX is closer to the IS. Also, the target audience is different. The ES is for families with smooth but slow ride. The TLX and IS CAN carry rear passengers but sacrifices some interior space for sportier rides.
Yeah the TL/TLX has always been a midsized sedan and always been bigger than it's competitors. ILX was compact, and RL/RLX was full sized. They just never compared the TLX to other midsized luxury sedans.
I do want to see the TLX Type S vs the IS500
Lexus is an excellent brand no one’s saying it’s not. But the IS350 refresh just wasn’t enough it’s still extremely dated compared to the competition.
It’s not that bad tbh I own a 2022 Lexus is350 f sport the power is there but the timing and gearing isn’t it need to be more aggressive the interior is actually pretty nice and high quality tbh
Look at the crease on the seat of the Type S. A clear example of how Acura’s quality just can’t compete
Can't c it. Where on seat?
@@franciscojr.millan2102 Right below the shoulder. It’s a sloppy crease
Oh, I c it
Lexus doesn’t even use real leather on a 50K+ car. They use fake leather.
Does the Acura have wireless Apple Car play? Also, how’s the interior cabin noise when driving at highway speeds?
No wireless CarPlay. Cabin noise with the summer tires is noticeably louder compared to a regular TLX on all-seasons. This is true for most cars with summers. It’s fine.
Cabin noise is very quiet. The building on the type S is very good. Quality is great only downside it's not wireless Carplay but I'm thinking an over air update will change that since the same system is there for the rdx/mdx and those are wireless
@@ryanb7110 Not gonna happen. Honda doesn’t seem to like adding wireless CarPlay after sale. Shame.
@@jjayguy23 yea, it is a shame for a car in 2020 coming out without wireless Apple and Android. Also I don't have this car anymore, it was stolen right out my driveway lol. Damn thiefs. Now have a 2021 m340i much better car imo
@@ryanb7110 Such a shame. Acura always seems to be on the edge of greatness, but they always mess something up. And, sorry to hear about your car.
You cannot go wrong with any one of these two.
IS500 maybe better than the type S but not the IS350
Depend on what you mean better. Even the IS350 is better than the TLX-S in some areas.
The is350 is so slow especially the AWD model that 6 speed doesn’t belong in a sport sedan.
They both look good from the outside but the inside Lexus is really behind. That’s why I never buy Toyota because of that reason Honda and Acura are are on top in my opinion.
What the reviewer didn't mention but hinted at is that the IS350 is alot more agile and has a much smaller turning radius than the TLX and feels like a more nimble car. talk about biased reporting...
This isn't even fair. The 350 runs like 42-44k and the type is is way over 50...and what is worse, this guy compares them like they are the same...
You can see at 18:12 that they’re essentially the same cost as outfitted. $53,990 for the Lexus and $54,645 for the Acura. A difference of $655 out of 55 grand? I’d personally call that the same price.
@@elliothaney That is quite literally impossible. A fully loaded IS350 costs $54500, assuming you don’t get a $500 paint option. And that includes the $4200 option of the dynamic handling package, which this test car lacks. And he tested the absolute worst spec of the car, the AWD version.
@@xfiringsquadx Then your buddy went to the wrong dealer. I paid MSRP for my Type S.
The Type S is actually cheaper than the IS350 AWD DHP package.
@@TheBreakfastLover Yes but the vehicles he reviewed had an almost $10,000 price difference
did Acura spend alot of time developing this car??
i dont even have 10 grand at 22
🤣🤣🤣
The type S TLX ain’t selling for $50k-$60k. The Kia Stinger for the price and what you get is the best value for your money. But the Lexus IS the most reliable.
Stringer looks a little bit uglier and stranger. And kia copied interior features from mercedes.
@@martinkazako2292 I think the stinger and the TLX are about equal looks-wise on the outside. Amazingly, the stinger manages to be both lighter and roomier inside. And I'll take the stinger's interior and infotainment over the TLXs any day, that center stack is ugly and the touchpad for the controls is pretty bad. TLX has a somewhat better stereo though.
You get a KIA… not even comparable. You can it a stinger but it’s still your mothers KIA. Who’s got a class action lawsuit coming for making their cars incredibly easy to steal.
The m340i is unmatched rn.
he just called it a '' LS'' lol
What is this guy talking about? Acura is nowhere near reliable. Look at any metric you can, they constantly have issues.
Thats not true at all... Honda/Acura is reliable compared to other car brands. On par with Toyota/Lexus. A simple google search will prove youre wrong.
They constantly have issue but the car still run just fine right? So I don't know what's your definition of reliable when talking about a vehicle.
There is nothing Japanese about Type-s. It was designed and is built in US.
As someone coming from 2008 TL type S, both the TLX type S and the IS350/500 would be an upgrade but I was a little disappointed with the TLX-S’ build quality (body panel gaps, plastic panels etc.) If anything I would probably wait for the 2024 refresh. The IS500 is more suited for what I am looking for. Speed, looks, and quality. It’s basically a GT car with a grand slam of an engine.
If the IS500 had AWD as an option I'd go for it, no hesitation
They both look and perform amazing. Haters will find any excuse to hate. It's really a matter of how much you want to pay for performance.
As someone who works for acura the is350 f sport and tlx type s are not in the same class. The IS350 f sport is the perfect fighter to a TLX aspec, just like the IS500 doesnt really compete with the type S.
@ronnye galiano can you not read? I said the is350 competes with the a-spec and the is500 doesn't have a competitor from Acura. is500 competes with Audi, BMW and Mercedes-Benz.
Exactly. I feel like you’re the only one that picked up on this. TLX a spec is even with the IS 350. Type S is a step up from the IS 350, and the IS 500 is a step up from the Type S
The BMW and Hyundai products look good, but they both suck in terms of reliability and resale value. For me the clear winner here is the Acura...although the Lexus is a really reliable car, it is showing its age and needs more than just a refresh.
The IS350/500 look elegantly Japanese... whereas the TLX Type S looks busy and confused. The Acura is a good bargain but my money would go to a IS500. The M340i or G70 would be my alternatives.
The IS has an obnoxiously oversized grille, the Acura has a normal sized grille.
@@TheBreakfastLover looks are subjective. I think the Type S is a bargain but it wouldn't be my first choice.
I didn't like the M3 grill but it is tolerable now.
@@timw2083 Lenscrafters is open until 7
With markups, the type S is far from a bargain. He's quoting sticker prices. Go to an actual Acura dealership and try to buy a type S. You'll wait about 3-4 months since they are made in the same factory the the NSXs are and not the one the other TLX are built AND you'll pay about 20k in markup. He's leaving out a lot of huge purchasing details. My buddy just bought one for 75k. It had the rim upgrade, side skirts and paint protection. That's it. Meanwhile you can lease an is350 f sport with a huge tax rebate and 0% interest. You're talking about a $800-$1000 car payment versus about a $450 car payment. With Lexuses deals I wouldn't be surprised if you could get an is500 for almost the same monthly as a type S.
@@xfiringsquadx you're full of it, I just ordered a Type S last week for retail.
This is laughable... why do the video if you don't have comparable cars. 🤣 IS always underrated anyway, 2GR doesn't need to prove anything.
The IS 500 will destroy the Acura type s .. so no wander the didn’t want to include that comparison..
Huh? It wasn’t out when they filmed this. Said it quite clearly in the video
Honda crushes Toyota. Not even surprise, just always expect it.
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Wrong
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I thought the Acura was nice looking until he parked it next to that Lexus. I want to hate the Toyota but that Lexus...yo!
With the right engine, coming soon, to back up those looks. It's got hips. It's nice.
Thats Lexus IS looks like toys
Why is lexus still using that tired old ass v6?
It’s solid af. That car will last forever.
Because it's cheap.
@@onlinealias622 Should be considering it's from 2006. It's beaten by some of the 4-cylinders in the class. Pathetic. They can't make a modern engine that will "last forever"?
@@onlinealias622 who cares, you're not going to live forever.
@@hpickettz34 i want nice things, but I also want to save money and be able to retire someday. Getting a nice thing that doesnt break and doesnt require crazy maintenance cost sounds good to me :)
bad bad to compare with the regular IS, not with the handler package.
Now compare it to the IS500
What about kia stinger gt2?
It’s a Kia
Absolutely not
The Lexus looks better though
Ok, arms! 🥺
Lexus for looks, reliability and resale value. Acura for 4 wheel performance on track. If you really want fun, get the slowest Japanese motorcycle on facebook marketplace. Will destroy all of these with ease both on track and strip
They both look amazing from the outside but the interiors and performance are disappointing. My choice would be a M340i or C43
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I’m just here for the Lexus!
Type S(0-60 5sec) competes with the IS 500 (0-60 4.3) . You should compare the IS 350 (5.6) with the A spec.(6 sec) You honda fan boy need to be fair smh.
The IS 350 F sport price is very similar to the Type S. He mentions several times in video that the 500 wasn’t available.
@@theyadmire511 and it even gets more expensive than the Type S when fully load and still inferior !!
but the IS350 F-sport DHP is actually more expensive than the Type S though
@@Av3ntur0zky Not really acura tlx engine suck i heard compare to lexus I driven both the lexus IS350 is more smoother and more quiet u cant even here the road noise the TLX is cheap interior and bunch of gaps
@@rook3364 the new TLX is more refined the IS In every aspect.
Great Review
The MDX Type S will use the same engine as the TLX Type S , that statement was false regarding the engine being exclusive.
Exclusive to Acura is what I said.
EXCLUSIVE TO TYPE S…… not the Tlx Alone.
Google is free.
Seems very bias. Especially saying that a new Acura is reliable when they constantly have issues
Issues with what though?
What kind of issues?
Unless it's the issue that you're making up.
All car have issues even Lexus is not perfect.
Acura is not reliable at all. What are you talking about? Sponsored content?
They really aren't ; I've owned two and both had transmission issues.
No idea where y'all bought your Lexus IS 350, but my 2022 costed 51.5k after tax. I have the same white-black interior. The acura doesn't hold a candle to it.