Love all the Lucid content. It’s rare on RUclips. Lucid is for real and the range is incredible. More people need to give it a chance because it’s a great car. Yes it’s expensive but in my opinion it’s far superior over an EQS/Model S.
Lose it have just fired 1300 employees and recalled almost every car they delivered because it can just brick and not move any more. That is definitely not a car you should give a chance.
@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 that news alone just dropped the resell value of your Lucid by a lot. And if they go under. Your Lucid is worhless. A reason to never buy first generation vehicles let alone a brand new vehicle from a brand new manufacturer.
Lucid has a showroom near my home and I have to say the staff there have always been super knowledgeable, super friendly. Never a fake or rehearsed feel to them, just there to honestly represent the company and talk with people. Very professional. I have to say that Lucid vehicles build quality, fit and finish look absolutely amazing. Even the ‘base’ model Pure is absolutely gorgeous in person. A bit out of my price range but if I could afford it, Lucid vehicle’s would definitely be on my radar
I'm glad you're happy with your car. I'm not a fan of Lucid but hearing your enthusiasm makes me enjoy the content. Keep doing your thing. Your videos are addictive
Good video. Love my Air GT. I think I would have ordered the metal roof if I could have. So, so glad I didn't. That open feeling is addictive. Lidar works by scanning an infrared laser, not unlike a grocery store scanner, out through the curved plastic lens in the front. Droplets of rain also act like little lenses, disrupting the beam. Once you are moving at highway speed, that's when the lidar is actually useful, the wind will keep big round droplets from forming. A few tips from my year travelling in a Lucid. When planning my next stop I always check both the EA app and the Lucid app on my phone. If the EA app shows chargers are working but the Lucid app does not, skip that charger. Other than those locations I have always been able to charge. On those occasions when I get a really slow charge rate or can't charge a (friendly/polite/sympathetic) call to EA's 800 number has always helped. Rebooting a charger will get it to work 9 times in 10, but if a 150kW charger is working, take that. In reality it is almost as fast. Patience and politeness go a long way with the stressed-out EA gals who mostly hear complaints all day.
A white Touring with the hard top and lighter color Santa Cruz interior looks stunning in the Lucid configurator. The dark rainy day and Mojave interior don’t help the enclosed feel of this one. I agree it would be nice to have a light color ceiling to highlight that spacious interior, regardless of trim.
I'm also 6'5" and drove the Air Pure at White Plains today. It was probably the same car. I like the Pure for its monochromatic paint scheme and interior coloring. One of these cars in white with a ceramic window tint would require the least energy to keep cool inside. The Air Pure would be my choice among Lucids. I think it's a winner.
I was at this event and had a test drive at 3:30pm. The Touring you were looking at is the one I drove. The Bear decal is something they ask if you want added for delivery. I wanted to test the Pure as well, but it went out when I got back from drive.
I would love NOT having a glass roof. Might be nice in NY.. but in the Southwest.. you have to CRANK the AC to overcome the solar input... also the smaller windshield would be much less expensive to fix when you inevitably get that first rock hit from the road.
@@RayNLA Yes it is. I've seen plenty of people on RUclips driving Tesla's and other glass roof vehicles here in the southwest. And they all have their AC cranked to 68. And many of them complain about their head being hot. Regardless of the UV protection in the glass. It's still hot. 100-112 Fahrenheit in the summer. UV index of 11-13. So yes the glass roof is going to suck. And yes I know you can put a shade to cover it. Kind of defeats the purpose of having the glass roof. Personally I would rather just have a metal roof and not have to deal with it.
I live in Texas and got my AGT in April of last year. I too worried about the glass roof but all through our summer I had no real issue with heat. Yes, i wore sunglasses more than usual, but the benefit of the open feeling was so, so worth any little inconvenience. If the car had to park out in the sun all day that experience may have been different.
@@Miata822 Texas is a big state. There's a big difference in weather between Dallas. And Laredo or El Paso. Dallas has basically temperate weather the same as Ohio. Houston is hot and humid. But the west and southwest areas of Texas have much higher UV indexes, much higher ambient temperatures. All I know is that when I see videos of people that have these types of cars they always have their AC cranked to max. I run around in my Toyota Hybrid set at 74 which is a perfectly comfortable temperature. Dark tint on the side windows. But since I don't have sun beating down from the top I don't have to have the air blowing as cold or as much to keep myself comfortable. Even if the UV itself can't penetrate the glass. The glass itself gets hot and radiates that heat downwards onto your head.
@@kens97sto171 Dallas the same as Ohio made me laugh, but I do see your point. There may be a business opportunity for someone to make an aftermarket roof sun shade.
I returned the Lucid GT after 3 weeks, but am rooting for the company to succeed. At 5’5” and no easy entry/exit software, I constantly hit my head on very low A-pillar. Single volume control for GPS and entertainment was a big problem. Horrible single clam-shell wireless phone charger was ridiculous for a $155K EV. We don’t like Amazon Alexa listening to our conversation, so turning it off eliminates voice commands. Try opening the charging door on a single press outside vehicle, often it’s 3 or more vs only one on my EQS & Tesla.
@@bunnydog8436 GOOD MORNING 🙋♂️ BUNNY DOG 🤭 I GUESS YOU'RE NOT A PART OF THE LUCID FAMILY SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT MESSAGE MEANS. HOW ABOUT YOU EGO JOIN WARREN'S CHANNEL BECAUSE MISERY LOVES COMPANY. HAVE A GREAT START TO YOUR WEDNESDAY MORNING BUNNY DOG AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN ENJOY IT WITH A SMILE ON YOUR FACE. 😁🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🙋♂️❤LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO LUCID FAMILY ADDING ON AND HOLDING STRONG HOLD THE LINE EVERYONE STAY FOCUSED AND DISCIPLINE HARD WORK DEDICATION.
I like the look of the pure and was also concerned on the roof. I think the compromise could be if Lucid put a sunroof in the car to at least get some light into it. Also not a fan of that material on the center console. As you raised, spill a drink or something and how easy will it be to clean
I visited a lucid show room today and asked about that. They said the reason why no sun roof is b/c it would create drag if opened so I’m told. But I guess they could do the moon roof at least
Great to hear about a Lucid option without a glass roof. I am that odd person that does not like them. Now, it there was a spare tire, I would be quite happy with it.
The Pure without glass roof is the most sensible version to get. The two tone colours look weird. All Blue looks very nice to those who like cruising under the radar. Glass roof is an option DAVE. U want to see the sky , just open the door and look up.
Nice job Dave. I was hoping you were going to drive the pure. I wanted to see if you thought it was quieter inside without a glass roof during the drive?
I heard through the grapevine that the cabin is quieter and the stereo sounds better in the non glass roof variant. Let me know if you find that to be the case when you drive both
I wouldn't buy a car with a glass roof, if given the option... The Pure is much more attractive to me as a potential buy with an all-metal roof. As for lidar -- it uses lasers, so rain and dirt can absolutely affect it; this is why radar is superior to optical technology for safety and ACC...
LiDAR does not like the rain and is a common thing with my partner's Lucid Air GT as well. Nothing to be concerned about other than knowing what to expect. For the price of the Pure, I would expect it to be similarly equiped to the EQE 450 4Matic. The solid roof is definitely a downer as it makes the claustrophobic space feel much more crampt with that much black all around. For the price, they should at least keep the glass roof.
Lack of a panoramic glass roof will be notable to many consumers, especially as more EV sedan offerings are launched in the US. Model 3 has a panoramic glass roof and costs less than half of the Pure. NIO’s ET5 will eventually reach US soil on their NT 3.0 platform. Not having a panoramic glass roof on a high priced luxury/premium car will be like when certain high end smartphones had plastic backs and sides. It’s a recipe for lower sales.
I prefer a solid roof to an all glass roof. Some of my previous cars had sunroofs but I would keep the shade closed most of the time. Only when the weather was mild which lasts about two weeks per year would I open the sliding roof. Another thing is I don't like glare from the glass roof in my peripheral vision especially when driving at night. It's a distraction.
Pure should definitely come with glass roof as an option. I have a reservation now and I'm thinking about going with touring if they can offer that $7500 discount.
Sucks that it doesn’t come with glass roof. Even the Model 3, NIO ET5 and quite a few other EV sedans that cost $40-$50k less than the Pure have panoramic glass roofs. I’m sure Lucid is going with sheet metal roofs here because they were already losing an eye-watering amount of money on every vehicle they sold, even with the $170k trim.
@@bubbalo3388 it's not about if you can afford it but if you are getting a good value for your money. For example you can afford a 50ft yacht if you can get 100k off it might make more sense then buying a 35ft with the same features. If not perhaps 35ft is a better choice. To me Lucid is overpriced for what you get, especiay after Tesla lowered their prices for the model S. 😉
So this is a good tradeoff between range (thicker battery in the rear footwell on higher trims) and rear passenger footwell depth. The Pure has deeper footwell for the rear passenger than the more expensive trims.
@@dconner9 The rear floorboard with the smaller battery pack is 3.15" inches lower than with the larger pack. It makes for a considerably more relaxed bend angle at the knee. Both versions have much more fore/aft rear legroom than with a Tesla Model S (9.5" more in our Air Dream than in our Model S Plaid), but it does take the smaller pack to put the Air's back seat comfort into the same league as a Mercedes S Class or BMW 7 Series.
I would get a Lucid Air if they were more affordable. I fully believe that Lucid Air has the potential to go far but only if they lower their prices and keep the same kind of style. I bet they'd sell more if they lowered their prices!
Yes, I'm 5'8" and had to develop motor memory to avoid bumping my head getting into our Lucid Air Dream Edition. But it develops after just a few entries, and once inside the room and openness of the cabin is amazing.
All the amenities you said don't come on the Pure also don't come on the Touring. The entire options landscape is the exact same except that you can't get the glass roof on the pure
1:58 - bummer, still waiting on the single motor. personally I'm another one who doesn't care about or need a glass roof, but I DO get the appeal as it's the same feature found on the Model X.
Why companies decide to put a charge port right in front of the door like that but not near the front of the car boggles my mind. Can we admit that it should be standard to be left rear or right front?
I have a question on safety. Does not having a glass roof on the Lucid Pure give it a higher rollover rating than the GT and Touring? Assuming that not having a glass roof would also result in the car insurance being much lower.
The strength of the roof comes from the cantrails and the cross beams. The thin metal skin on a roof adds virtually nothing in terms of strength and actually less in terms of crumple resistance..
as i think about it what does lucid offer better than eqs ,,range yes , but both have more than most people will ever need ,,after that i can't think of anything , what am i missing ,, ??? ,, both cars take a sizable investment ,,which offers more security for our investments as far trade in ability or resale ???
I am sure there were Lucid employees there watching their cars and would have moved them if someone needed to charge. But four charging spots filled and no one charging? Doesn’t teach good charging etiquette to new EV buyers test driving cars.
I don't like the two tone roof and the glass roof that doesn't have an integrade shade or won't open... wish they left that as an option on the higher trims.
Finaly someone made it without the stupid glass roof. Being bald and living in Los Angeles... it is impossible to live with glass roof of any type even with sunshade.
It's surprising for US car to have so many versions and options. Let's just not call it annoying. Chinese BYD Han, Nio ET7 and Hipy X-something and other models will make them rethink. What's curious is that making so much versions is more expensive. The fabric thing is quite out of place in 90k$ car. Just make the same glass roof car with different size batteries, minimum interior options and super long range RWD with big battery.
I'm rooting for Lucid but the reality is that Lucid is losing a lot of money. I live in in Colorado. I Googled service centers for Lucid. All that comes up is their showrooms located in Malls. If you have a Lucid how do you get it serviced?
If Lucid cannot service your car with a Mobile Tech visit to your home, they truck the car to a service center for any work covered under warranty. It's the same arrangement we had with our Tesla Model S in the early days, and it works very well for the owner. Ironically, getting our newer Model S serviced is now more of a hassle since they opened a service center in the next town. I'm almost dreading when Lucid opens a service center near us instead of using the one across the state as we do right now. (We're on the west coast of Florida and use the Riviera Beach service center on the east coast.) By the way, Tesla also lost a lot of money in the early years. Nothing is guaranteed, but I think Lucid's technology will win the day for them over time.
I mean it's beautiful Ev best looking in my opinion but for the price no sorry. while you can get a model S for the same price autopilot, games, a ton of safety features very fast still delivering 400 miles roughly
No EVs which use the EPA 5-cycle protocol to rate range instead of the 2-cycle protocol will get their rated range in sustained highway driving. Both Tesla and Lucid use the 5-cycle protocol. (Porsche and Audi use the 2-cycle protocol, thus their cars can actually achieve EPA range in highway driving, but the EPA range is also much lower.) We have a 2021 Model S Plaid and a 2022 Lucid Air Dream Performance, both with 21" wheels. Our Plaid gets about 72% of its rated range when driving at a steady 80mph on a flat, lightly-traveled stretch of I-75 (Alligator Alley through the Everglades) in temperate weather. (Our 2015 Model S P90D on 19" wheels only got about 65% of its rated range driven thus, so Tesla is improving its efficiency.) Our Lucid gets about 78% of its rated range in the same conditions. This yields about 100 miles more actual highway range in our Lucid compared to our Tesla.
Kind of odd how much you're talking about a glass roof as a let down in a variant that explicitly stated there is no glass roof. Can't be a let down if it was never even part of this variant. But thanks for showing the inside. Didn't expect the dip in the roof.
Did you stumble upon these cars happening to be there? Or did you get an invitation from their marketing team? I am sure you genuinely love your car but it seems a coincidence these kind of videos come out when their share price is dropping. Also their waiting list seems to be evaporating faster than they can make them. They should concentrate on cutting costs and increasing production rather than courting vloggers. Phillip.
I was invited to the event since I am a current reservation holder for a Pure RWD. That’s how I knew about it. I still haven’t cancelled my order for a Pure even though I bought the Pre-Owned Grand Touring to keep my options open
Looks like a Buick Regal, really underwhelming for the price. The interior is very nice, much nicer then my MSP. But the styling isnt too desirable imho
@@normt430 the interior, absolutely. The exterior, no way is this remotely close to a model s plaid. Model S plaid is much better looking then this thing. The interior and appointments however far and beyond goto the lucid, they got that nailed down for sure
i actually like this because nobody is going to key a base lucid air as much as a base model S long range.the base model air looks like a gas car in a busy parking lot which is good.
I really recommend seeing and driving one in person. Photos simply do not do it justice. Literally everywhere i go people come up to me to look at the car, take pictures, say how appealing it is. Driving one is worlds apart from your MSP. See MSP owner & Tesla fan Kyle Connor's canyon run in the middle-of-the-line AGT. He concludes that the Lucid's handling is "miles above" his own MSP.
The Pure is disappointing. Strange materials inside, looks cheap and is quite dark. It is really pure/simple what It offers for the kind of money. I guess you would rather go for the Touring and take off all the extras.
Its a nice car but im my opinion Lucid looks to much like a buick. Love the inside but not very sporty. Offcourse its my opinion but rather the Porsche Taycan or Tesla Model S.
🤔...compares the pure to the Model S that comes standard with a glass roof, auto pilot, a number of software features like sentry mode, games, entertainment and not to mention air suspension which any version Lucid will never have those abilities for way less. A Lucid is ok and glad it's another choice but let's tell the truth especially when there is also the Taycan, EQS, and the BMW i7 that can be equipped with auto present doors on all doors, comes with touch screens on the doors and a whole rear media theater, that's ultra luxury not any version of a Lucid
I take it that you haven't actually driven a Lucid then. Lucid makes driver's cars. The cost of a Lucid is in the actual mechanical hardware and interior materials. See the latest MunroLive video for a brief engineering description of just the front underbody to get a glimpse at the engineering and materials refinement of Lucid vehicles. Yes, some people would rather have video games. That's up to you. The Lucid is not for everyone.
i hate to put a damper on your enthusiasm , but don't you think that your time in the car is not enough for these rave reviews as important issues have not had a chance to be answered ,, lets look at a couple ,, car failure 200 miles from a dealer,, what do they put you in if your car needs days of service waiting on parts ,,what is the longer time line reliability, what is the companies ability to stay in business if someone does not buy them out or take a major stake , then what is the value of that car if they fold ??? and the lower price car to me looks like the ugliest interior ever,, please love your reviews but you accept all the minor issues , without the experience of a car with no track record , from Coltrans paint reviews he certainly is not happy with lack of paint, is there a timeline when issues like that are not quite minor , just saying not criticizing ,,i am a manufacturer of products full of chips and i know i need a number of years to know i can rave about one of my own products
@@mowcowbell It's just mouth-breathing Tesla-troll ranting about things they do not understand, yet somehow feel threatened by. He's blabbering about things that he does not understand. People (like me) who buy cars like this (one year in my Air GT) are less concerned with the perfection of a cutting-edge vehicle than the experience the vehicle delivers. I suspect that he would have serious concerns about the long term servicing cost of a Ferrari or the financial condition of Aston Martin if he bothered to look, but he doesn't. I have driven many, many vehicles. The Lucid Air is a stand-out winner for all-around best driving car ever. That is my personal judgment. I fully expect that others will have a different opinion but, unlike Tesla-trolls, don't feel threatened by that.
@@Miata822 As an Air Dream Edition owner of 14 months with almost 17,000 miles on the car, I agree. I've owned a myriad of high-performance cars over the years and also have a 2021 Model S Plaid (which replaced our 2015 Model S P90D). Some of these cars might beat a Lucid on one point of comparison or another, but the Lucid is easily the best overall balance of power, handling, ride, room, comfort, and luxury I've ever owned.
I am sorry but you constantly misspell the name. Considering a layoff of 1300 employees and the fact that close to every delivered car has been recalled because it can just brick the real name is lose it.
Love all the Lucid content. It’s rare on RUclips. Lucid is for real and the range is incredible. More people need to give it a chance because it’s a great car. Yes it’s expensive but in my opinion it’s far superior over an EQS/Model S.
Most people can't afford to give it a chance. At that price it's a luxury toy.
let me pull out over 100k out of my ass lol... I Mean it's a beautiful Ev don't get me wrong but way over priced
Lose it have just fired 1300 employees and recalled almost every car they delivered because it can just brick and not move any more. That is definitely not a car you should give a chance.
@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 that news alone just dropped the resell value of your Lucid by a lot. And if they go under. Your Lucid is worhless. A reason to never buy first generation vehicles let alone a brand new vehicle from a brand new manufacturer.
@@bubbalo3388 exactly. It is troubling though how much money they spend on advertising, paying RUclipsrs to trick people into a wing their cars.
Lucid has a showroom near my home and I have to say the staff there have always been super knowledgeable, super friendly. Never a fake or rehearsed feel to them, just there to honestly represent the company and talk with people. Very professional. I have to say that Lucid vehicles build quality, fit and finish look absolutely amazing. Even the ‘base’ model Pure is absolutely gorgeous in person. A bit out of my price range but if I could afford it, Lucid vehicle’s would definitely be on my radar
I'm glad you're happy with your car. I'm not a fan of Lucid but hearing your enthusiasm makes me enjoy the content. Keep doing your thing. Your videos are addictive
Good video. Love my Air GT. I think I would have ordered the metal roof if I could have. So, so glad I didn't. That open feeling is addictive.
Lidar works by scanning an infrared laser, not unlike a grocery store scanner, out through the curved plastic lens in the front. Droplets of rain also act like little lenses, disrupting the beam. Once you are moving at highway speed, that's when the lidar is actually useful, the wind will keep big round droplets from forming.
A few tips from my year travelling in a Lucid. When planning my next stop I always check both the EA app and the Lucid app on my phone. If the EA app shows chargers are working but the Lucid app does not, skip that charger. Other than those locations I have always been able to charge. On those occasions when I get a really slow charge rate or can't charge a (friendly/polite/sympathetic) call to EA's 800 number has always helped. Rebooting a charger will get it to work 9 times in 10, but if a 150kW charger is working, take that. In reality it is almost as fast. Patience and politeness go a long way with the stressed-out EA gals who mostly hear complaints all day.
A white Touring with the hard top and lighter color Santa Cruz interior looks stunning in the Lucid configurator. The dark rainy day and Mojave interior don’t help the enclosed feel of this one. I agree it would be nice to have a light color ceiling to highlight that spacious interior, regardless of trim.
I stand corrected. Just double-checked the configurator. It’s also a dark interior ceiling with the Santa Cruz. Sigh…
I'm also 6'5" and drove the Air Pure at White Plains today. It was probably the same car. I like the Pure for its monochromatic paint scheme and interior coloring. One of these cars in white with a ceramic window tint would require the least energy to keep cool inside. The Air Pure would be my choice among Lucids. I think it's a winner.
This just shows how crazy good of a value a Rivian is.
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Sick. Pure looks great 7:04. Love this brand
I was at this event and had a test drive at 3:30pm. The Touring you were looking at is the one I drove. The Bear decal is something they ask if you want added for delivery. I wanted to test the Pure as well, but it went out when I got back from drive.
The suede is actually Alcantara. The Fabric in the Pure is the Alpaca Wool.
The Pure doesn’t come with the Alpaca wool. It’s a tightly wound yarn.
I would love NOT having a glass roof. Might be nice in NY.. but in the Southwest.. you have to CRANK the AC to overcome the solar input... also the smaller windshield would be much less expensive to fix when you inevitably get that first rock hit from the road.
The glass roof has UV protection. It’s really not an issue
@@RayNLA
Yes it is.
I've seen plenty of people on RUclips driving Tesla's and other glass roof vehicles here in the southwest. And they all have their AC cranked to 68.
And many of them complain about their head being hot. Regardless of the UV protection in the glass. It's still hot. 100-112 Fahrenheit in the summer. UV index of 11-13.
So yes the glass roof is going to suck. And yes I know you can put a shade to cover it. Kind of defeats the purpose of having the glass roof. Personally I would rather just have a metal roof and not have to deal with it.
I live in Texas and got my AGT in April of last year. I too worried about the glass roof but all through our summer I had no real issue with heat. Yes, i wore sunglasses more than usual, but the benefit of the open feeling was so, so worth any little inconvenience. If the car had to park out in the sun all day that experience may have been different.
@@Miata822
Texas is a big state. There's a big difference in weather between Dallas. And Laredo or El Paso. Dallas has basically temperate weather the same as Ohio.
Houston is hot and humid.
But the west and southwest areas of Texas have much higher UV indexes, much higher ambient temperatures.
All I know is that when I see videos of people that have these types of cars they always have their AC cranked to max. I run around in my Toyota Hybrid set at 74 which is a perfectly comfortable temperature. Dark tint on the side windows. But since I don't have sun beating down from the top I don't have to have the air blowing as cold or as much to keep myself comfortable.
Even if the UV itself can't penetrate the glass. The glass itself gets hot and radiates that heat downwards onto your head.
@@kens97sto171 Dallas the same as Ohio made me laugh, but I do see your point. There may be a business opportunity for someone to make an aftermarket roof sun shade.
Have my pure on order, that color, upgraded wheels, alcantara, and the upgraded surround. Excited for it
I returned the Lucid GT after 3 weeks, but am rooting for the company to succeed. At 5’5” and no easy entry/exit software, I constantly hit my head on very low A-pillar. Single volume control for GPS and entertainment was a big problem. Horrible single clam-shell wireless phone charger was ridiculous for a $155K EV. We don’t like Amazon Alexa listening to our conversation, so turning it off eliminates voice commands. Try opening the charging door on a single press outside vehicle, often it’s 3 or more vs only one on my EQS & Tesla.
I reserved my air pure for 75k. Although i have been waiting for a long time i believe it's well worth the wait
LET'S GOOOOO LUCID FAMILY 🙋♂️❤🥳🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉🎉🕺🕺🕺😉👍
Weird post. Are you 5yrs old?
@@bunnydog8436 GOOD MORNING 🙋♂️ BUNNY DOG 🤭 I GUESS YOU'RE NOT A PART OF THE LUCID FAMILY SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT MESSAGE MEANS. HOW ABOUT YOU EGO JOIN WARREN'S CHANNEL BECAUSE MISERY LOVES COMPANY. HAVE A GREAT START TO YOUR WEDNESDAY MORNING BUNNY DOG AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN ENJOY IT WITH A SMILE ON YOUR FACE. 😁🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🙋♂️❤LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO LUCID FAMILY ADDING ON AND HOLDING STRONG HOLD THE LINE EVERYONE STAY FOCUSED AND DISCIPLINE HARD WORK DEDICATION.
I like the look of the pure and was also concerned on the roof. I think the compromise could be if Lucid put a sunroof in the car to at least get some light into it. Also not a fan of that material on the center console. As you raised, spill a drink or something and how easy will it be to clean
I visited a lucid show room today and asked about that. They said the reason why no sun roof is b/c it would create drag if opened so I’m told. But I guess they could do the moon roof at least
Great to hear about a Lucid option without a glass roof.
I am that odd person that does not like them.
Now, it there was a spare tire, I would be quite happy with it.
The Pure without glass roof is the most sensible version to get.
The two tone colours look weird.
All Blue looks very nice to those who like cruising under the radar.
Glass roof is an option DAVE.
U want to see the sky , just open the door and look up.
I agree. I prefer the Pure as I like the car to be all one color. I have never been a fan of the two tone body colors.
Nice job Dave. I was hoping you were going to drive the pure. I wanted to see if you thought it was quieter inside without a glass roof during the drive?
That is an interesting point.
I heard through the grapevine that the cabin is quieter and the stereo sounds better in the non glass roof variant. Let me know if you find that to be the case when you drive both
Bravo, Super Dave 👏🏼
A light coloured headliner a must for the solid roof variant.
Have you seen Munro Live Lucid episodes? Cool stuff.
Lucid looks great!!
I wouldn't buy a car with a glass roof, if given the option... The Pure is much more attractive to me as a potential buy with an all-metal roof. As for lidar -- it uses lasers, so rain and dirt can absolutely affect it; this is why radar is superior to optical technology for safety and ACC...
Yup, radar is tried and true. Lidar is prone to a lot more failure since it will generate way more heat on the electronics.
Just give it a regular sunroof.
LiDAR does not like the rain and is a common thing with my partner's Lucid Air GT as well. Nothing to be concerned about other than knowing what to expect. For the price of the Pure, I would expect it to be similarly equiped to the EQE 450 4Matic. The solid roof is definitely a downer as it makes the claustrophobic space feel much more crampt with that much black all around. For the price, they should at least keep the glass roof.
I guess for approximately the same price, you could get the EQE SUV. I much prefer SUVs over a sedan.
Lack of a panoramic glass roof will be notable to many consumers, especially as more EV sedan offerings are launched in the US. Model 3 has a panoramic glass roof and costs less than half of the Pure. NIO’s ET5 will eventually reach US soil on their NT 3.0 platform. Not having a panoramic glass roof on a high priced luxury/premium car will be like when certain high end smartphones had plastic backs and sides. It’s a recipe for lower sales.
There is a famous car meet happening in Baltimore then following week it’s going to be in DC. You and Kyle should attend. Would be an awesome video!
I like the blue it looks pretty good!
Nice Polestar2 there.Snow with all packs.This is the car Hertz should have.
I prefer a solid roof to an all glass roof. Some of my previous cars had sunroofs but I would keep the shade closed most of the time. Only when the weather was mild which lasts about two weeks per year would I open the sliding roof. Another thing is I don't like glare from the glass roof in my peripheral vision especially when driving at night. It's a distraction.
Great feedback
Pure should definitely come with glass roof as an option. I have a reservation now and I'm thinking about going with touring if they can offer that $7500 discount.
Sucks that it doesn’t come with glass roof. Even the Model 3, NIO ET5 and quite a few other EV sedans that cost $40-$50k less than the Pure have panoramic glass roofs. I’m sure Lucid is going with sheet metal roofs here because they were already losing an eye-watering amount of money on every vehicle they sold, even with the $170k trim.
@@waynelewis9110 it's hard to run factories that make only few cars that people don't buy. These are too expensive.
@@electrifiedmotors Indeed!
If your worried about a $7500 kickback for an expensive car like that then you probably can't afford it.
@@bubbalo3388 it's not about if you can afford it but if you are getting a good value for your money. For example you can afford a 50ft yacht if you can get 100k off it might make more sense then buying a 35ft with the same features. If not perhaps 35ft is a better choice. To me Lucid is overpriced for what you get, especiay after Tesla lowered their prices for the model S. 😉
Thanks for great content. I look forward to telling us the specific difference between Dreamdrive and Dreamdrive Pro.
So this is a good tradeoff between range (thicker battery in the rear footwell on higher trims) and rear passenger footwell depth. The Pure has deeper footwell for the rear passenger than the more expensive trims.
Great stuff!!! 👍🏼👍🏼
As an investor in Lucid and Polestar (& Tesla) it's good to see the Polestar 2 next to the Lucid to compare the size of both vehicles.
What was the back seat of the pure like for foot space with the lack of batteries there?
A lot more space than the GT
@@dconner9 The rear floorboard with the smaller battery pack is 3.15" inches lower than with the larger pack. It makes for a considerably more relaxed bend angle at the knee. Both versions have much more fore/aft rear legroom than with a Tesla Model S (9.5" more in our Air Dream than in our Model S Plaid), but it does take the smaller pack to put the Air's back seat comfort into the same league as a Mercedes S Class or BMW 7 Series.
I just love the Bear - logo .
I would get a Lucid Air if they were more affordable. I fully believe that Lucid Air has the potential to go far but only if they lower their prices and keep the same kind of style. I bet they'd sell more if they lowered their prices!
I think I prefer the non glass roof. I imagine sound is better, heat is better, and glare is better.
The pure from what I understand is made to be as efficient as possible for what the battery is the glass roof probably lowers weight
Those Touring wheels look just the 2015-2017 Hyundai Tucson 19" wheels. Haha
I did bump my head getting into the Touring, so you do have to keep that in mind.
Yes, I'm 5'8" and had to develop motor memory to avoid bumping my head getting into our Lucid Air Dream Edition. But it develops after just a few entries, and once inside the room and openness of the cabin is amazing.
All the amenities you said don't come on the Pure also don't come on the Touring. The entire options landscape is the exact same except that you can't get the glass roof on the pure
1:58 - bummer, still waiting on the single motor. personally I'm another one who doesn't care about or need a glass roof, but I DO get the appeal as it's the same feature found on the Model X.
Why companies decide to put a charge port right in front of the door like that but not near the front of the car boggles my mind. Can we admit that it should be standard to be left rear or right front?
Waiting for Gravity Pure with 7 proper individual seats:)
I have a question on safety. Does not having a glass roof on the Lucid Pure give it a higher rollover rating than the GT and Touring? Assuming that not having a glass roof would also result in the car insurance being much lower.
The strength of the roof comes from the cantrails and the cross beams. The thin metal skin on a roof adds virtually nothing in terms of strength and actually less in terms of crumple resistance..
Should I get this over a Tesla model Y?
as i think about it what does lucid offer better than eqs ,,range yes , but both have more than most people will ever need ,,after that i can't think of anything , what am i missing ,, ??? ,, both cars take a sizable investment ,,which offers more security for our investments as far trade in ability or resale ???
When lucid goes bankrupt GM can buy them and put Buick badges on the air and fix the robo cop front end. Nice car that's to expensive.
I am sure there were Lucid employees there watching their cars and would have moved them if someone needed to charge. But four charging spots filled and no one charging? Doesn’t teach good charging etiquette to new EV buyers test driving cars.
When are you going to go over the service record of the Lucid you bought?
Shooting that video this week. Soon 😊
I think I will let my initial deposit go after seeing this video. Between Lucid air and Tesla S, Tesla is a no brainer. Nice video though.
I don't like the two tone roof and the glass roof that doesn't have an integrade shade or won't open... wish they left that as an option on the higher trims.
The Ford Taurus when it debuted LOLLLL. I'm rooting for Lucid tho.
Finaly someone made it without the stupid glass roof. Being bald and living in Los Angeles... it is impossible to live with glass roof of any type even with sunshade.
It's surprising for US car to have so many versions and options. Let's just not call it annoying. Chinese BYD Han, Nio ET7 and Hipy X-something and other models will make them rethink.
What's curious is that making so much versions is more expensive. The fabric thing is quite out of place in 90k$ car.
Just make the same glass roof car with different size batteries, minimum interior options and super long range RWD with big battery.
Living in TX I HATE the glass. I double tint and bought a cover for my tesla.
Does it actually get those crazy range? Somebody need to do a 100 to 0 test. Lol. I know it'll probably take 10hrs, but do it for the team.
I'm not a fan of the obvious body trim to hide the weld line on the roof. Other cars manage this more elegantly.
If I could only afford the Pure I may just opt for the Model S Long Range
I don’t mind the Lucid but it looks like it was hit in the back by a truck and I’m not sure that is a great design choice.
I'm rooting for Lucid but the reality is that Lucid is losing a lot of money. I live in in Colorado. I Googled service centers for Lucid. All that comes up is their showrooms located in Malls. If you have a Lucid how do you get it serviced?
they have mobile service vans and some showrooms do service as well but not all of them.
The Natick MA and Long Island NY places are service centers as well as show rooms.
If Lucid cannot service your car with a Mobile Tech visit to your home, they truck the car to a service center for any work covered under warranty. It's the same arrangement we had with our Tesla Model S in the early days, and it works very well for the owner. Ironically, getting our newer Model S serviced is now more of a hassle since they opened a service center in the next town. I'm almost dreading when Lucid opens a service center near us instead of using the one across the state as we do right now. (We're on the west coast of Florida and use the Riviera Beach service center on the east coast.)
By the way, Tesla also lost a lot of money in the early years. Nothing is guaranteed, but I think Lucid's technology will win the day for them over time.
Dave: What do you think the ODDS ARE .....of Lucid going bankrupt??
high
I prefer a hard top if there is no shade.
I mean it's beautiful Ev best looking in my opinion but for the price no sorry. while you can get a model S for the same price autopilot, games, a ton of safety features very fast still delivering 400 miles roughly
You won't get the claimed range.. My guess, less than 60+miles of it claimed EPA range
No EVs which use the EPA 5-cycle protocol to rate range instead of the 2-cycle protocol will get their rated range in sustained highway driving. Both Tesla and Lucid use the 5-cycle protocol. (Porsche and Audi use the 2-cycle protocol, thus their cars can actually achieve EPA range in highway driving, but the EPA range is also much lower.) We have a 2021 Model S Plaid and a 2022 Lucid Air Dream Performance, both with 21" wheels. Our Plaid gets about 72% of its rated range when driving at a steady 80mph on a flat, lightly-traveled stretch of I-75 (Alligator Alley through the Everglades) in temperate weather. (Our 2015 Model S P90D on 19" wheels only got about 65% of its rated range driven thus, so Tesla is improving its efficiency.) Our Lucid gets about 78% of its rated range in the same conditions. This yields about 100 miles more actual highway range in our Lucid compared to our Tesla.
That blue with the colour looks better than the platinum highlights. Looks too much like chrome highlights.
Car is amazing but stock price needs to be fixed
HARD TO BELIEVE 8$ STOCK PRICE FOR THIS EPIC COMPANY…SHOULD BE IN AT LEAT 60-70$. OR MORE…
I wish I'd have know about this.....
What's the deal with the bear? Looks like an $80k car with a decal on it lol.
I wish Tesla made the Model 3 with a metal roof. I really don't care for the glass.
Kind of odd how much you're talking about a glass roof as a let down in a variant that explicitly stated there is no glass roof. Can't be a let down if it was never even part of this variant. But thanks for showing the inside. Didn't expect the dip in the roof.
Glass roof? Depends on where you live. Not so desirable in the Arizona heat and sun.
that A Pilliar in silver is hideous.
The Pure will lose an absolute fortune on each one sold.
Frunk is not a word.
$85k no sunroof, no ac seats, cloth interior etc. Ridiculous
Did you stumble upon these cars happening to be there? Or did you get an invitation from their marketing team? I am sure you genuinely love your car but it seems a coincidence these kind of videos come out when their share price is dropping. Also their waiting list seems to be evaporating faster than they can make them.
They should concentrate on cutting costs and increasing production rather than courting vloggers.
Phillip.
I was invited to the event since I am a current reservation holder for a Pure RWD. That’s how I knew about it. I still haven’t cancelled my order for a Pure even though I bought the Pre-Owned Grand Touring to keep my options open
Looks like a Buick Regal, really underwhelming for the price. The interior is very nice, much nicer then my MSP. But the styling isnt too desirable imho
But so much nicer than a Tesla!
@@normt430 the interior, absolutely. The exterior, no way is this remotely close to a model s plaid. Model S plaid is much better looking then this thing. The interior and appointments however far and beyond goto the lucid, they got that nailed down for sure
i actually like this because nobody is going to key a base lucid air as much as a base model S long range.the base model air looks like a gas car in a busy parking lot which is good.
@@kottuning3294 Model S is soo basic now that my eyes are tired. Same exact car since 2012, not desirable enough sorry!
I really recommend seeing and driving one in person. Photos simply do not do it justice. Literally everywhere i go people come up to me to look at the car, take pictures, say how appealing it is. Driving one is worlds apart from your MSP. See MSP owner & Tesla fan Kyle Connor's canyon run in the middle-of-the-line AGT. He concludes that the Lucid's handling is "miles above" his own MSP.
Sure is a lot of "soprano voice" with the pure overview goings on 😂
Wow. 80k for that? Let it rot on the lot.
There is a waiting list over a year long.
The Pure is disappointing. Strange materials inside, looks cheap and is quite dark. It is really pure/simple what It offers for the kind of money. I guess you would rather go for the Touring and take off all the extras.
Have you seen it in person?
@@Miata822 No, but I‘ve watched several videos. Still waiting to see them in Europe.
Its a nice car but im my opinion Lucid looks to much like a buick. Love the inside but not very sporty. Offcourse its my opinion but rather the Porsche Taycan or Tesla Model S.
I have embraced the styling and have decided to name my car LeSabre
@@dconner9 Great Name...lol
Vaaovvvvv
🤔...compares the pure to the Model S that comes standard with a glass roof, auto pilot, a number of software features like sentry mode, games, entertainment and not to mention air suspension which any version Lucid will never have those abilities for way less. A Lucid is ok and glad it's another choice but let's tell the truth especially when there is also the Taycan, EQS, and the BMW i7 that can be equipped with auto present doors on all doors, comes with touch screens on the doors and a whole rear media theater, that's ultra luxury not any version of a Lucid
I take it that you haven't actually driven a Lucid then. Lucid makes driver's cars. The cost of a Lucid is in the actual mechanical hardware and interior materials. See the latest MunroLive video for a brief engineering description of just the front underbody to get a glimpse at the engineering and materials refinement of Lucid vehicles.
Yes, some people would rather have video games. That's up to you. The Lucid is not for everyone.
i hate to put a damper on your enthusiasm , but don't you think that your time in the car is not enough for these rave reviews as important issues have not had a chance to be answered ,, lets look at a couple ,, car failure 200 miles from a dealer,, what do they put you in if your car needs days of service waiting on parts ,,what is the longer time line reliability, what is the companies ability to stay in business if someone does not buy them out or take a major stake , then what is the value of that car if they fold ??? and the lower price car to me looks like the ugliest interior ever,, please love your reviews but you accept all the minor issues , without the experience of a car with no track record , from Coltrans paint reviews he certainly is not happy with lack of paint, is there a timeline when issues like that are not quite minor , just saying not criticizing ,,i am a manufacturer of products full of chips and i know i need a number of years to know i can rave about one of my own products
I'm sorry but I do not understand gibberish. Could you re-post this in English?
@@mowcowbell It's just mouth-breathing Tesla-troll ranting about things they do not understand, yet somehow feel threatened by. He's blabbering about things that he does not understand. People (like me) who buy cars like this (one year in my Air GT) are less concerned with the perfection of a cutting-edge vehicle than the experience the vehicle delivers. I suspect that he would have serious concerns about the long term servicing cost of a Ferrari or the financial condition of Aston Martin if he bothered to look, but he doesn't.
I have driven many, many vehicles. The Lucid Air is a stand-out winner for all-around best driving car ever. That is my personal judgment. I fully expect that others will have a different opinion but, unlike Tesla-trolls, don't feel threatened by that.
@@Miata822 As an Air Dream Edition owner of 14 months with almost 17,000 miles on the car, I agree. I've owned a myriad of high-performance cars over the years and also have a 2021 Model S Plaid (which replaced our 2015 Model S P90D). Some of these cars might beat a Lucid on one point of comparison or another, but the Lucid is easily the best overall balance of power, handling, ride, room, comfort, and luxury I've ever owned.
I am sorry but you constantly misspell the name. Considering a layoff of 1300 employees and the fact that close to every delivered car has been recalled because it can just brick the real name is lose it.