Defending Ogre Camps
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- Опубликовано: 13 мар 2022
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I find Gnoblars are great at absorbing a charge and holding a line for ogres to charge over and over, even better is to just have your ogres charge through the gnoblars so they act as little orbiting meatshields. I have so much fun using gnoblars I kinda wish their roster was a bit more fleshed out!
The man, the myth, the legend!
hello potatomcwhiskey :D didn't know you play this game too! love your civ vids :D
right I'm suprised they only have regular and trappers. The ogre variety makes up for it though but I'm still hoping for more gnoblars. They aint no gobbos!!
Fleshlars=
no really, gnoblars vs gobbos vs zombi skels vs skaven slaves....
the mook match of the century
Have you tried stonehorns, gorgers, and ironblasters? They’re basically the definition of fun imo 😂
That short speech by the lord was powerful
Let's be honest it's impressive how ogres can make their camps identical 100% of the time
They have exactly one (1) blueprint, and they stick to it. Time spent doing it differently is time that could be used for finding fresh meat!
@@shadowblade5656 Ah of course!
Impeccable sense of design
They even bring the skull
Yeah just like the Romans.
6:05 the war sleds are indeed shooting while in melee lol
War sleds MVP
Chariots (even goblin variant, at least in TWW2) can pin and kill even a dragon or giant in melee.
Correct War Sleds do literally everything. I'd like to see them nerfed before even Ironblasters in pve but I doubt that happens.
Thanks for saving my battle Legend, war sleds were giving me to much trouble when I was trying it.
That's because war sleds not only go brrrrr but they go grrrrr as well. bears and guns are a terrifying combo
hearing you talk about towers in the beginning makes me want to get more info about the different towers of all factions (in minor and major settlements)
They are the same in both
A Tower Tier list, yep
@@wulfgrumheimfjarl3346 yesn't
the towers at the walls might be some tier x towers you may build
but the unique position they got there might increase / decrease their value
@@BellumCarroll Per faction faction tower tier list since the towers are all a bit different with each :/
I'm so clueless about towers :(
The war sleds are the war wagons we all wanted
I’m loving this. I watch your videos everyday, they bring me joy and comfort
I wish the armies would get a fortification like this every time they are in the camping stance
This was a super useful video. Defending these settlements has proven to be more challenging.
I was impressed by the Gnoblars's performance there. I expected them to break and run like gobbos usually do.
They ain’t no gobbos!
I'm playing a Goldtooth campaign right now and...one thing I'm really digging with camps is that they can basically be nearly free storage for Stonehorn stacks.
Thanks a ton for the tip about using barricades to funnel the ai into better paths, it's helped me a lot when the ai actually attacks a settlement without sieging it for 20 years first.
I can't believe those gnoblars saved that fight. I guess they are more than just snacks.
i’ve been sallying out 95% of the time with ogres and it’s gone really well as long as i can get back to the main point.
I wish we could see a Goldtooth camp defense against 2 full Cathay stacks of archers and artillery.
Cathay has been the bane of my Ogre existence on my Goldtooth campaign lol
Why? You don't start out hostile with them
Are you eating their people and ransacking their caravans?
@@1Br0cK If you ply them with gold gifts (very un-ogre like, I know), you can get treaties with them. I got both dragons on my good side that way lol
@@mastamizclix42 the wonders of bribery
@weaponizedlizardmen360
That way I had alliances with dwarfs as skaven
The power of capitalism is way mightier then any petty grudge😅
I found these fights were the hardest I had in my Ogre campaign. I think you are most of the time at a disadvantage, they are not greatly defensively. And if the enemy has archer units who can fire from above the walls, it's a real pain and very hard to manage.
I had issues with the unit path finding at first, but holding shift and right click dragging a waypoint is my savior. You don't even have to drag an exact path sometimes just dragging down the initial route then doing a straight line to the end point does the trick @LegendofTotalWar . Also found that gnoblars are awesome against the light war sleds if you can soak their charge with another unit of gnoblars.
Settlement defensibility faction tier list might be a fun video
I’m playing a tzeench campaign right now but watching this makes me want to play ogres and kislev…
would be cool if ya made a video on each factions towers, like a tier list where you look at the best tower from each faction and compare them
Didn't consider that different towers might be more cost effective, I'd figured that they would've balanced the supply requirements against the towers overall effectiveness. Wouldn't mind a breakdown of the different factions' towers and/or when to pick them (e.g use magic towers vs demons to bypass the physical resistance).
My current strat for difficult defences (particularly when the defending army is small) has been to hole up in the town square with the entire army, ignore the smaller supply points, and invest in one or two of the expensive towers, relying on them to do most of the work. If you can get the AI into a few tight corridors the splash damage can swing the tide pretty effectively.
Help all of us to embrace the cheese, would appreciate your thoughts in a future video! @Legend
When you translate the names of Kislev commanders from polish they are hilarious...
Sergei Biedny basicly means Sergei the poor
And Ivana Kapusta means Ivana Cabbage.
I wish we had some kind of t3 Gnoblar variety that was even a bit better at holding the line. The kinds we have atm are great for the early game for absorbing charges but they just can't do anything vs higher tier infantry. Even a Bloodletter charge will make them completely crumble a few seconds after impact which doesn't leave you much time to whittle them down with ranged. Unless ofc, you have them Unbreakable Gnoblars. ;)
Some kind of Gnoblar equivalent of Goblin Fanatics/Nasty Skulkers would be really cool! The skarsnik campaign is honestly my favourite because the goblin units are so fun to use!
It's kinda the point for gnoblars to be utterly worthless.
@@SlightlyIrreleventAustralian Before the Skarsnik DLC, the same could be said about Goblins, no?
Yo Legend ! It would be cool to have a video with the best cost effective towers for each factions.
I really like the Kislev passive. It can be a pain fighting against it in open battles. I rarely get those in WH3 though, which is a shame.
Ogres are the only faction I’ve really enjoyed so far in TWW3. I think it’s cause their roster feels the most full
Ogre camps remind me of Atilla Encampments
A sled stack is awesome against ogres, or anyone else for that matter. Luckily the AI doesn't know the most effective way to use sleds is to spam them and just blob attack.
Thanks for the video
yo can you maybe make a video on defending settlements as kislev? :) i keep getting wrecked by really strong demon armies and the kislev settlement setup seems kind of hard to defend so if you have some advice on that it would be greatly appreciated
I think in situations like this, where you're relying on towers so heavily, and are microing troops enough that you're missing the exact tower build moments, it is FAR better to build the T1 towers ASAP.
Building a new tower takes 90 seconds. Upgrading an existing tower takes 30. you effectively spend about 100 supply points to get the tower tier you WANT up 60 seconds faster. if you make more then 100 supply points a second, it's going to be a faster way of getting the towers up.
*100 supply points for going from T1 to T2.
** this is all the more worth it the higher tier of tower you're jumping to, since you're getting your expensive investment up 60 seconds sooner after you pay for it, even if it costs a little more.
*** it is generally NOT worth it to jump from T2 or T3 to T4- you're losing operational time of an expensive tower while it upgrades, and losing more supply overall.
Ogres my Lord
Surely the best tower depends a lot on the composition of the attacking force.
for ogres the level 2 tower really is just the best, highest single target and group dps
Streltsi are turbo stronk, noted
>Gnoblars better than ogre bulls
That's what Dame's been saying! Not-Gobbo power! Whoo!
Gnoblars S tier unit I knew it.
Eat The Meat With That Cheese, Keep up the great Content.
The bulls are hot garbage vs armored enemies. Against the boyar you have to use the tyrant to get any damage on him. Or spam trappers and throw the kitchen sink at him.
Btw, Streltsy are already multiple, Streltsys is excessive)
Amazing defense there! Do you think this would have been possible still if the gun units from Kislev were archers instead?
Yeah I would like to know as well, I've found the Ogre camp very difficult to defend against archer heavy comps.
Archers are a fucking nightmare to defend against when in a camp if the ai uses them sensibly (which they do in my experience about 75% of the time)
I feel like this would have been a definite loss in that scenario- especially since the basic ogre bulls have virtually no armour
What are the best Towers for Cathay?
Hi there :3
biggest in da tribe
@LegendofTotalWar might have just asked me T2 tower is the best unless you start with 2K, enemy will not get to you quickly and you defend 2 tower point (500per turn under siege with research makes that possible)
Just to make sure I am not trolling you, when DameOffensive was asking about which tower to use, I was promoting T2 as best.
I love Gnoblars. They're shit and great at being shit. They are great defenders; they don't fight amazingly but they just stay long because of numbers and uh... The will to survive.
How do you exchange troops with a camp? I don't get the exchange symbol when right clicking on it. My army just stands next to it
i do it exactly that way. the camp counts as an army. try to click the armysymbol, not the camp itself perhaps
I can't believe that a lot of the war hammer community are saying that the Ogers are OP, Ogers are supposed to be powerful units that smash through the enemy because they are bigger. Unfortunately they will say any faction in war hammer is OP if their faction doesn't walk all over the opposing
I blame MP
Btw Legend, streltsi is already plural, so you can just say streltsi instead of streltsis
*interacts with content*
Ogre bulls are so bad vs single entities it's comical. I don't know if it's intended or bugged
Defending camps is almost impossible against any army with more than 10 units
I don't like that you can't build more towers once you win the battle.
gnoblars are good for holding power??? god, what am I doing wrong? they break before I even get a single rear charge in with my ogres. I thought I was using them wrong, and should just charge down the front with ogres as a front line, and make less crapstacks.
Let the Gnobos take the initial hit then have the ogres charge from behind the Gnobos. They'll still get their cha5ge off and the Gnobos will take most of the brunt of the melee attacks.
Yeah you want to use the Ogres like trolls, don't bother rear charging if going through your own unit is quicker. They have an upgraded charge as a trait which makes up for positioning. The main thing to do is just keep them charging around even if it means two ogre units crossing over each other to attack different units. Keep those big boys running.
I'd be so much worse at this game without you guys lol
Kislev army ability is so god damn annoying
Wow we’re early
The Kislev leadership on very hard and legendary is just too over tuned at the moment. I find most units will fight until there is only a handful left even after the lords and heroes are dead. Meanwhile demons crumble at like 50% losses.
thats the nature of harder battle difficulties, inflated stat buffs
Something just feels off about explanations and narration to me here. Legend, you sure are sound exhausted or something
I know there's a lot of bigger problems with the game at the moment, but I find the idea that ogre camps have walls like this just... so ridiculous.
Anyone else already gone back to playing Warhammer II ?
How come that the pathfinding has been downgraded so hard in the Total War games, i thought you would want FULL control of your units in a grand strategy game...? i remember that if you told units in Shogun 2 to fall back they actually DID that.. but thats maybe just me..
Depends
In Shogun 2 I thought it was a bit too quick for immersion how fast units responded
In Medieval 2 it's basically the opposite, troops react slowly and often "forget" orders (as when they're in melee, just like in WH3), and it works very well, gives the game a slower pace that works differently
Though it's been modified between WH2 and WH3 in a way that's kinda weird as it seems to he reverting to a slower reaction time, which isn't really adapted to the game or the habits we acquired over the years
It was fine in current WH2, but WH3 is working off an old branch of WH2 that didn’t have the improvements. Zerkovich has a video on the differences.
@@alexf1353 true, and I also have a comment on Zerk's video, there's more to it than just being an old version of WH2
WH3 sucks