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Did Goh RUIN Pokémon Journeys?
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
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Bruh I got so mad a pokeball in Gohs hands was basically a master ball
WAIT YOUR RIGHT 😭
Have you forgotten that one time he used all his like balls on a meeting? That same episode when ash got his dragonite
@@Shawn-mc6yx it was a dewgong, that was pretty much the only time goh needed more than one pokeball
He also just has an infinite amount of these pokeball master balls.
He never even used any different pokeballs like it would be nice if he upgraded to a greatball or something 😭
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Yes, he did.
Edit: Yeah Cinderace was cool ngl.
CINDERACE WAS THE GOAT
@@Pokiiii62 Yeah. And it definitely fits Goh. Probably the only thing the writers did with Goh that wasn't stupid.
Also, at least from my experience, Goh shipping wasn't really something I saw many people who hate Goh concern themselves with, because it wasn't really a prominent character trait at all. And I was fortunate enough to not have it forced on me by "some members of the community". Personally, the only character that I feel was affected by the shipping fiasco, it's prolly Serena. I don't see how shipping ever came into play for any companion's identity other than Serena. And yeah, it's weird, to put it EXTREMELY lightly. But Pokemon is surprisingly unfiltered when it comes to these things. Remember how many Pokemon have a crush on Ash? Yeah, probably a good thing he's retired from the anime now...
He didn't just ruin Journeys but stupid choices of writers did. Ash's new Pokemon are magically just born and they're strongest team he had. Ash going from winning Alola league which James from TR is Top 8 to becoming strongest trainer in the world. Ash not using older Pokemon. PWC being bad especially Masters 8. Iris becoming champion despite not having any dream of that. He wanted to become Dragon master. If so, why didn't Misty become Champion? She was "older" than Iris. Just because is Iris in the game, doesn't mean she should've become champion. Plus it is also soon. Also, not enough Galar region. Goh had some contribution like catching Legendary, catch mons left and right and being in 2 episodes in which Ash and Pikachu didn't appear. But it is mostly making Ahs unbeatable, after winning no offense trash league that most characters from past would do that with Z Move/Mega. I mean Gladion is strong but not stronger than upgraded older rivals.
@@armantrto180 No offense? Bro, I agree with everything you said. 😎
If Ash ever deserved to win a league, it should have been Sinnoh. If Ash deserved to be Champion, it should have been Kalos. At least IMO. In any case, no offense taken ☺
@@zomorion9183 I mean that all goes, but if writers have decided that Ash loses to Tobias and Alain, that's fine. They don't deem seem Ash worthy at those times. But if you give Ash win against Gladion in a league that is - let's be honest not good system wise. Don't get me wrong, Gladion is strong trainer but not even close to E4 and in Journeys because of that you go: "Alright, Ash should beat Leon!" That is really stupid.
"Ruined" is a strong word, but you couldn't pay me to get invested in his catching BS.
Fr 😭
He breaks the Rules.
The real problem is that he's basically a walking advertisement which wasted so much time just so they can say "PLS PLAY POKEMON GO" even on the very last series?!?
Meltan/melmetal is also from pokemon GO
@@babyseal8822 true but majority of Journeys is screaming "Pokemon Go". They didn't even bother showing all the Galarian gym leaders. They just shoved the Darkest Days arc very early of the anime, only to them promoting more on Go and the SwSh DLCs.
Meltan debuted just to promote both Go and Let's Go, which by then in the anime, it's the final season (debuted in the anime in 2019, after the Let's Go Eevee arc aka Lana's Eevee and the Ultra Necrozma arc).
@@babyseal8822at least Meltan and Melmetal are not hated like GOH.
@@Miguel92398 ah yeah, almost forget that lana eevee also to promote lets go especially with that hair
Someone already pointed out that Goh is a walking Pokémon Go advertisement, and I can't help but agree 💀
Funny enough, I’ve rejoined back in Pokémon GO this year! The last time I’ve played was back in 2016. So… about 9 years later… 💀😭😅😂
I mean, hell, it's the truth!
It's honestly sad that one of the most iconic TV show protagonists ended up leaving the show with probably his worst traveling companions. Even the Sun and Moon anime had a more memorable cast, even if some characters got more development than others.
Very true I stick on that
Yes exactly and journeys was just nothing but cheap nostalgia bait and I really hate how the galar fossils are normalized in this crap show
Very very true. Goh was terrible and Chloe was god awful as a character
I think what made me dislike Goh the most was the constant pokemon catching. past protagonists bonded with the pokes they caught and made it feel special in the anime. Goh was way too much like the players and just threw a ball at anything and then stored em in a PC.. It felt way too close to home to a lotta people i feel, and it's kinda hard to see in a protagonist character.
That's a very valid reason friend, good take 👏
Its what a collector does.if he went and bonded with each of them i dont think ash would have even got the screentime he got😂
I can understand that, he was just throwing balls at everything, meanwhile when other characters like ash or may caught a pokemon it felt special because they had bonded with them or because it was something that developed over multiple episodes or something like that
@@legendsteelix9880 a poorly written collector*
@@LuckY000Y Just like how Leon was a poorly written champion. In any case I agree
ion care what anyone says, goh was the weakest companion for ash EVER, goals were weak asf too 🙏🙏
Das what I'm saying, I don't hate him but he's definitely oen of my least favorites
@@Pokiiii62 opinion so damn fax it posted twice
@@serenton1n Really? I find that hard to believe when Max exists. All Max ever does is hold the Pokenav, sideline commentary, or be obnoxious know it all when he really isn't. All of which by the way can be done by other companion characters and with less obnoxious comments and more actual knowledgeable advice. Not to mention has zero Pokemon at all. In before you say, " ah but he was kid!", Bonney says hi. She has done way more while also being the same age as Max. Heck there is Elite Four member in Paldea, Poppy that is younger than him that is more competent than him. Also Ash is ten years old which means he is also a kid along with others known to be his exact age. Goh at least can back up his Pokemon knowledge, can use & catch Pokemon, cook, knows how to use tactics well, and never acts bigger than he is. Face it Max is the most useless companion.
@@EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv my bad bro, I forgot Max existed when I commented that, I 100% agree that bros annoying, I still believe Goh MIGHT be the worst companion though since journeys was the last time we ever saw ash so it was a pretty big thing and Goh just ended up being a bit too underwhelming for me, I get what you're saying though
Noy only weak but also impossible, catching every pokemon is brutally impossible, if goh want to catch to catch any sort of pokemon then he might doing it, ash almost catch all sort of pokemon except female only pokemon (even thought he own solgaleo, he never catch it in pokeball)
My personal beef with Gou is the fact that he got ALL three starters. I honestly hate the fact that they gave Ash two random Kanto Pokémon and a Sinnoh Pokémon which leave him with two ACTUAL new Pokémon being Sirfetch'd and Dracovish. At least with Gengar I can understand cause it can Gigantamax but Lucario and Dragonite shouldn’t be with him at all. Like Inteleon or Rillaboom would have been really cool secondary aces but Lucario feels so forced upon him that I can’t really like it that much.
I DO HATE THAT, WHY COULDNT ASH GET ONE!??!
Goh getting all the Starters is a Problem yes. But the Bigger Problem is Not showing off Galar! Lucario is something he should've gotten a long time ago; that Aura Sphere Rilou back in Shinnoh or in Kalos for Mega Evolution! Dragonite Safari Zone episode or when he got his 8th Badge from Clair since that Dratini was meant to represent the Gift one from GS games!
THATS WHAT IM SAYIN DAWG!!!
Im fine with Goh having Grookey because its the starter from Galar that fits him the least
Scorbunny is 50/50 for me I woulda loved to see ash get one but I think it suits Goh just as well
But Sobble?!?!?!? Dude it fits ash so well man and yet they just HAD TO GIVE THE MOST BLAND MOTHER FUCKER IN THE SERIES THE ONE THAT WOULD FIT THE MOST
The thing is Gengar and Lucario aren’t really random. Gengar is a callback to his Haunter who he gave to Sabrina. It’s like a what if he kept it and evolved it moment. But it’s fully evolved…
And Ash knows aura sensing from the Lucario movie (on which make that movie canon) and used it with Greninja later on. It makes sense for him to have one of his own. Not random.
Now Dragonite was random, but I think it fits well as an Ash Pokémon. Exactly his style of attack with Dragon Dance to boost Attack and Speed.
That’s my outlook. Don’t have to agree.
@@DCDex05 Thing is though, these are Pokémon that Ash should’ve gotten a while ago. Like they couldn’t figure out a full team of Galarian Pokémon for Ash so they decided to give him some of the best Pokémon from previous generations. They feel really tacked on.
The problem is, Goh's goal can never be accomplished as long as Pokémon still makes new generations, that's why I like rewrites of Pokémon Journeys that make him want to be a Pokémon Professor since those lean more into his want to learn more about Pokémon
Oooo I kinda like that
same can be said for ash too as long as new generations exist ash's goal will continue on
Let's be real here, an even bigger reason that Goh's goal was impossible from the start is because the entire Porygon line is (unjustly) perma-banned from the anime, so even if new Pokemon stopped being discovered one day and he was able to slowly catch up, it ultimately wouldn't matter. He's unironically more likely to catch Arceus, then somehow travel to a parallel universe and catch a SHINY Arceus too, than he is to ever so much as SEE a Porygon.
@@Luigifan305*time travels to before porygon was wiped off the face of the Earth*
@@lightyoshiman Except he became a Pokemon Master.
Goh was a'ight though I liked his Pokemon more than him.
Honestly it would have been cool if Gary was Ash's traveling companion this time in his final (as of currently) journey
He did not ruin the series, but his character's direction could have been more organized. That's not getting to the fact that his gimmick of being a Pokemon Go player in the anime was not the best choice.
That's so funny, pokemon Go player 😭
@@Pokiiii62 HE may have ruined Pokemon for me, But Muthrfker you ruined the whole Demon slayer for me, Who the Fk asked for spoilers, i never read the Fking manga, and you showed me who married who, WT-F bro, NAH Fk you
What ruined journeys was the way the episodes were all trying to be their own story and not giving anything from sword and shield a chance. They got the darkest day stuff overwith as soon as possible and never touched anything from sword and sheilds story again
Why was Chole so Absent from Journeys I mean she's meant to be the Pokegirl, but she doesn't feel like it.
Yeah, I'm not really sure. I really liked her as a character but she didn't even have a purpose at all
@@Pokiiii62 Well her "Purpose was Eevee" Problem they didn't GO anywhere with that! Will probably make a video in the Future about that.
Goh was the real girl
@@MJ-oi6ul Bruh. Now the shipping makes sense.
Goh was just ruined by writers by being a mc but i think if he would tag along ash far into story and make him better no one would hate him
Also no one mentions this but his character is a plug for Pokemon go and no one talks about it ( I am not just talking about his name btw
Here's a bright idea, Have Him Not Exist At All!!!!
He was a mistake, the those people that actually deserves to be bullied
3:16
Even as an Aureliashipper (AshxLillie) I do agree, but there are exceptions that I go by:
1) Have the characters aged up, or have them get together during/after a time skip.
2) Only have the characters have crushes on each other, but not dating.
You know what i also find a bit annoying, is, as someone who would say they’re more socially conservative on the latest wave of politics (i.e the last 5-10 years), I find it kinda like its a forced political message when some fans try to make every bloody character something within the lgbtq+ community..
I have absolutely no issue with a character being gay, but its as annoying as shipping a boy and girl who aren’t interested in each other as trying to come up with some head cannon where someone who isnt gay is gay :/
Exactly, case and point: Lillie.
The games actively confirm she isn’t lesbian, yet people ship her with Selene.
@@aureliamastergoomba1278 Yeah, exactly! It just comes across really arrogant from them 😅
Some people just need to go outside for a bit, fr 😂
I think one of the main problems with Goh is simply breaking the laws of Pokémon itself. Since every single time Ash tried to catch a Pokemon without battling it, that he didn’t befriend beforehand or wasn’t a weak little bug, it didn’t work, besides one exception, and Ash would be called out on how stupid that was, meanwhile that just kind of works for Goh. Like he isn’t even using different types of pokeballs which would at least make more sense as to why it was easier (especially since the one time Ash caught a non bug type without battling or befriending, was Totodile, WITH A LURE BALL)
The Safari Zone is the only other exception I can think of where all 30 balls worked to get Tauros, but that is a unique situation that does not apply here at all
I feel like Journeys as a concept really screwed over Galar and the characters and Pokémon released. Horizons is partially cleaning up the mess, debuting character not seen like Kabu. Pokémon that never got to debut in Journeys like Boltund, Rolycoly, Carkoal, Poltergeist, Barraskewda…all debut in Horizions. Boltund, Blitbug, and Corvisquire debut as minor background characters. Poltergeist and Carkoal are Pokémon on the ship. Rolycoly debuts with Kabu, but you would think Sizzlipede (a Pokémon catchable in his own gym!!!) makes its debut…no…gets no debut.
Porygon-2, Porygon/
-Z, Acrtovish, Kubfu, Dracozolt only get a brief image. Barraskewda gets absolutely nothing, I’m hopeful Kofu can change that. A lot of other Galar Pokémon debut only beside a trainer for a short scene, like Pinchurchin. And some only debut because of the Gatcha Machine. What happened to the episode that focused on highlighting each mons characteristic. And don’t get me started on the Husui bunch. It’s ridiculous.
Even the important gym leaders and DLC characters are not safe. No Milo, Nessa, Gordie, Melony…where? No gym challenges?
They changed the formula and it didn’t work. They made Goh the center of attention and they traveled region to region so he can collect them all and gather research. His goal was executed poorly. We see no struggles besides Dewgong on captures. Where is the growth of skill when he apparently has hacks in his DNA. Project Mew was a cool concept, but it made Goh the main character while Ash sidelines. Two protagonists clashing each others screentime. Goh should of honestly gotten his own show or something, maybe there would be more storytelling to make him less bland. Them being based in Kanto and wasting time there instead of maybe…the new region!
Nothing in Journeys felt deserved. Ash progressing in battles with cheap plot armor like Ash vs. Drasna, Ash vs. Raihan, Ash vs. Volkner (Motor Drive issue), Ash vs. Steven (Redirecting its Z move’s bolts after Metagross used Agility and dodged the attack). Pokémon that were unfazed or tanked damage well fall to one or two moves. Ash removing Cotton Gaurd’s Defense boost with soaking Altaria in water? Meteor Assault on a Dragon/Fairy is enough to faint it?
Catches don’t feel as earned. We needed more Flygon and Golurk capture moments. Actually fighting the target.
Battles feel forced and he don’t struggle enough. We needed to see more of the octopus/squid smackdown. Progression that felts earned, not forced.
Journeys is pretty flawed…. One of the worse modern Pokémon ever . Style I liked but everything else 🫠
tbh I always felt like Horizons was “Journeys, but actually executed well”
That's honestly a great way of looking at it
He was badly written , ash was badly written , ash’s team was badly written. Journeys was wasted potential at its finest
We've been scammed by those criminals aka JN Writers
Facts. Entire PWC thing was rushed.
Ok so my opinion before seeing the video:
Yes. Goh was such an annoyance for me, I was never someone that cared too much for doing the Pokedex, so a character with a dream of completing the dex would be something that I wouldn't really care, but I also never care for the pokémon contests in game but I adored them in anime, that's why I love Dawn, May, not Serena. But the anime could do something cool with a mechanic that I don't care about, unfortunately they didn't. Goh was annoying and frustrating, after all he was capturing several pokémon every episode, but what makes he frustrating, at least for me, is that many of the pokémon he got, were all pokémon that I would love to see Ash using, like the Cinderace, Flygon and Scizor and etc. I would prefer personally if Goh had some episodes for him, but we had way more for the old ash companions, like... WE DID NOT SEE MAY OR MAX IN THE ANIME WTF. Oh and captured legendaries, what for me always is a bad thing I always believe that no pokémon Trainer in the anime should have a legendary pokémon, no matter the excuse, legendary s should be only be able to be captured in the games
Just so you know, the true reason why May didn't make an appearence in Pokemon Journeys is because her Japanese VA had received a health problem that prevented her from handling VA work. So if that person couldn't voice that character, then that character wasn't going to appear in the show because of the rule that characters who get created in by people in Japan aren't allowed to be recasted unlike characters who get created by people in other countries. They were thinking that if that VA got well before Journeys ended then they would have May show up in it, but that VA didn't.
I'd rather have Cameron than Goh anyday
Fr 😭
NONONONO OH GOD NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@Pokiiii62 Hater fr
C'mon man, you're just asking us to pick our poison with that one.
I wasn’t much of a Goh fan when Journeys ended. But I did enjoy the Gary and Goh’s rivalry as it pushed Goh out of his comfort zone.
I do agree on that
I honestly found it half assed like wasn't that quill guy hyped up to be goh's rival what with him having the highest scores on the test in that small group? then out of nowhere gary just started pushing goh and quill was left behind as anything
I wish where he was in a situation where he never bounces back to something at all.
He should stay down
And then they focused too much on the grookey and yes it may be cute but goh completely forgot he had other Pokémon other than his starters
He’s keep switching out his aces from Cinderace to Inteleon to Grookey. Like come on! Have an ace and stick with it!!!
If you want a good ending for ash ao and watch Zacthoshi's Sword and Sheld fan made anime i bet you dont regret it is far more fun and he still making S&V and it is a monthly saris so go watch that it wold be beter then Watching idk journeys ❤😊
I’ve watched the entirety of Zactoshi’s Sword & Shield series, and got to say… can’t believe he does it a lot better than the games story has to offer, and did what Journeys failed to do, represent the Galar region as a whole! Now can’t wait for his Scarlet & Violet series to continue on later!
@@brickbanditstudios6037 you bets it is
I literally stopped watching journeys purely because Goh
I HATE him so much
Holy SHIT how do they fuck up a secondary protagonist SO BADLY
This is a series that managed to have 3 SECONDARY PROTAGONISTS AND YET THEY MANAGED TO FUCK UP THE LAST ONE?!?!?!?!?
And secondly now that this is ash’s last series
The fact he takes MORE SCREEN TIME THEN ASH MAKES ME MORE ANGRY THEN IVE EVER BEEN
Very fair
I did it too, even the Final of Pokémon World Tournament wasn't enough to watch journeys again.
I didn't hate Goh, but I dispised how much screentime he was given during Ash's final journey (as the main character) only for him to NOT achieve his endgame; catching Mew!
TBH his goal of catching em' all wasn't all that ridiculous considering that was Ash's goal in the beginning of the series. Gary Oak was kind of the perfect rival for Goh when you really think about it. Gary was about catching em' first and asking questions later. Don't forget that bro had over 200 Pokemon before he entered the Indigo League!
Goh would've done better had Gary appeared earlier in Journeys to inform him of Project Mew. He could've been the reason Goh stopped catching for quantity and focused on training some of the Pokemon he had to build a strong team in order to confront Mew towards the end of the series. Heck, or even pull a Gary once more by rotating his team so he has a strong squad rather than simply a team of 6.
By traveling with Ash, he could then further see the purpose of building strong bonds with your Pokemon. I'd say Goh wasn't a lost cause like Chloe in terms of wasted potential. However, to have him eat up more of the plot with his catching stuff rather than Ash building bonds with his Journeys team or having PWC matches was hard to deal with...
Regardless of how the masses felt about the character, I thought it was a darn shame to NOT have Goh be there in person to watch Ash vs. Leon! WTF was the reasoning for having Chloe there instead of the traveling companion who actually TRAVELED with Ash in this particular series?!
Geez, the only reason I don't completely dispise this character is because he's voiced by the same person who does Remy from Big City Greens...
Actually, it was Ho-oh, not Mew
The writter think making pokemon character who lived with their motto "gotta ketchum all" Is great idea, enspecially we remembered how much ash getting bullied for not catching every pokemon he encountered
It honestly just seemed Goh was meant to be a new version of Ash since at the beginning of the anime when originally he wanted to catch every Pokémon ever but didn’t. But that quite faded into the background soon afterwards unfortunately.
For sure
@@Pokiiii62 that’s right!
Goh, Chloe and Journeys Ash is easily the worst group out of any Pokémon series.
And chloe didn't even feel like part of the group it was just so mid 😭
The sad part is it has the potential to be better
To what I remember hearing her VA got Covid during filming. So, most of her episodes likely got cut.
Sadly, yes.
It feels like Goh was written to be only primarily in the first season and then not show up as often but the writers got a call from corporate that basically said: “Yeah he has to be in the entire show…too bad we’ve already done this type of thing for the other companions…that’s not our problem figure it out.”
I don't think Goh ruined the anime, but he was very mishandled, his goal was weak, alot of his captures fell like after thoughts or not deserved, not giving him any chance to bond with his pokemon, and most of them being sidelined by the galar starters (especially Grookey...ugh). Honestly Journeys as a whole was just a mess, especially with regions ( poor galar).
This series was basically almost a waste of time for me.
@@brickbanditstudios6037
Honestly besides the Ash vs Leon match, it really was it should have been all about Galar
I think he would've even been better if he was a shiny hunter or something
The anime about Pokemon Journers feels rushed too (just like Pokemon Sword and Shield in the game), like the episode not really having arc having many fillers that is boring (there a few exceptions like Ash Lucario and Goh Cinderace adventure after evolving battling against Mewtwo and Eternatus plus Team Rose villain, after that they have become best friends to the point where Cinderace cheers to Lucario in semifinal of Ash vs Cynthia because I like that one) and when they do its feels like the wants to be done like on 4 episodes at maximum (Just look at the Darkest day and Project Mew), Galar region dont have that much of a screen time compare to the others regions in the anime, I dont mind Goh is just that the writters makes Ash feels like a side character in the beggning focusing more on Goh when is Ash final jouneys (They should make the Ash and Dawn style adventure about Ash and Goh or Ash showing Goh how it feels to be a great Pokemon trainer just like Ash shows to May)
Idc what anyone says I still like Goh
And that's ok
Well yeah, everyone has their own opinions, and that's good! 👍 And know that I respect yours.
(I just don't agree with it.)
Not gonna lie, I feel like both Goh and Chloe ruined Pokémon Journeys. The entire series was wasted potential and a flat out joke but the shipping, OMG that was the worse. That was terrible but I get kinda understand it somewhat like 3% of it because Chloe was supposed to be the main girl for Pokémon Journeys but like she barely had any screen time and even when she did had screen time, it's like she was there just to be there, it literally sounded like Chloe was just a random ass character that was nothing special because she had no goal, she never had her Eevee evolve, and she barely had any character development because throughout the series, she's just a shy and introverted girl with no dreams at all
His presensece served zero value!!! He should be RETCONNED NOW!!!
Goh was a good idea, just handled pretty poorly... Just like almost everything from journeys-
A series run by scammers, no doubt
Goh, Mew expedition taking place after Ashs masters 8 win was so poorly timed. Like this is Ashs moment. But we cut to Goh. Goh did nothing for me.
THAT WAS INFURIATING
He ditched Ash’s little arse just to see if he can find and try to catch Mew instead of just being there for moral support after how much they’ve been through on their journey. And what’s worse is that Chloe just suddenly shows up to see Ash’s competition against Leon even she was just barely there. I mean Dawn being there makes sense since she and Ash are like besties, as for Chloe like are you for real? Taking Goh’s place to see Ash’s final competition, NAH MAN! That’s just ain’t right… 💀💀💀
@brickbanditstudios6037 Chloe being there was so pathetic.💀She was a half-baked character. That somehow made Tracey, the most forgotten travel companion, a better companion in comparison. Why didn't Ashs mom and Oak arrive to cheer him on along with the Og Kanto gang. Then after the competition was finished there was a small celebration scene. Why couldn't we do something like a champion ball or dinner for Ash. It didn't feel special. It was like here is your trophy. Now get out. All of this happened because we had to rush to Goh. L move by the anime.
@brickbanditstudios6037 Chloe to Ash was like an acquaintance you only know from your friend. She was an acquaintance. Not cheering on at Masters 8 level friend. It was so cringe, bro💀. At that point just invite the Todd Snapp
@@DaARK_Chocolategang oh agree, literally anyone else that Ash have met could’ve replace Chloe!
Journeys had a few issues: Covid, Netflix only, lot of filler, very little done with Galar, no Galar gyms, & Goh was built just to be a tie in on Pokemon Go not as a real character at least not initially
Ya I Can See The Logic Here So, I Don't Hate Goh But The Existence Of Project Mew Just Uh....
It was so boring, bro 😭
@@Pokiiii62 It's Like, No Offense To People Who Like Project Mew But, I Feel Like Many Pokemon And Human Characters We're Just Butchered From Project Mew Just Existing As A Whole.
Project Mew was just nonsense and a last minute addition to the show also why in the world are fossil pokemon roaming around in faraway island?
I think my biggest gripe with Goh is how unearned his catches feel most of the time. When Ash catches a Pokemon there‘s usually an entire episode dedicated to it and we get to know more about the Pokemon he catches and why they want to join him. For Goh he just throws a Pokeball and catches it, mostly without weakening it which was already established is a bad idea. I far from hate the character but this does bother me.
It was a problem most people have
EXACTLY!
While I don’t mind the Pokémon wanting to join Ash, it wouldn’t have been a bad idea for him just to catch something just for the heck of it.
Just saying Ash could have formed a bond with a Pokémon during the journey.
Goh is on the same level as Boruto and Kazuya from Rent-A-Garbage
Whoever made them should have been arrested and the death penalty indeed
before even clicking on this video, I knew the answer.
yes, absolutely, 745%.
I think he should had goh to be professor
That's a good idea honestly
You know what if they focus the more enjoyable elements of the series such as ashes pokemon, ash, goh, goh pokemon, and the progress and don’t put filler in journeys we will be fine with goh and gohs progress and the mission to catch mew should be at least 3 episodes long for the great
Edit: I thought this episode was a mix with goh and journeys my bad
Your totally good friend!
In my head I always see Chloe as both a main character and recurring since there was no new female travelling companion in the journeys series. So she’s the closest thing.
Yeah... but she felt so empty which kinda sucks but it is what it is
@@Pokiiii62 yeah unfortunately.
Chloe's problem was more than anything the fact that she didn't get to have the same kind of focus and attention put into her character because Ash and Goh were treated as the 2 main protagonists for Journeys, likely because they are boys and Pokemon is more associated with being for boys than it is girls. That said, Chloe was interesting when she was first introduced, as they could've built on her not liking Pokemon more and maybe doing something with that, but she got shafted because it apparently would've been too much work to write a third main character into the cast. They could've even possibly given her more screentime in place of the filler that Journeys is known for -- even if her plots were still mostly filler themselves, they could've still been used to give her something more to do instead of largely treating her like she didn't exist. And while she did get some resolution to her character at the end of Journeys, and I personally do think it makes some sense for her, given her main goal was to find out why her Eevee wouldn't evolve, it's still a problem because it mostly comes out of nowhere, and only seems like it was done because the writers suddenly remembered at the last minute that they needed to give her storyline some closure, too. There's also the fact that we never got to learn why exactly her Eevee was unable to evolve, which in my opinion is the biggest disappointment with Chloe as a whole, because it shows that the writers cared that little about her so as to just brush it off and hope no one would notice or care
@@matthewkuscienko4616 Chloe not liking Pokémon would be too similar to Lillie from the sun and moon series. That’s just my theory.
@@spontaneouswizard358And May from the beginning of the advanced series
He just got there since May didn’t come back.
I honestly wished that in Journeys, Ash would mainly traverse the world with 0 companions but with his old companions coming in and out from time to time.
i agree
Goh isn’t a bad character.its just the writers motivation to to ruin journeys in every possible way they can and they did it by using goh as well.His way of catching pokemon was just boring.In pokemon manga there is a character named crystal who catches every pokemon for pokedex.She dosent even have the same dream as goh but still is a lot better at catching pokemon.
Yeah, a lot of people disliked how goh catched pokemon
Because there’s no reason for goh to break the “Pokémon tutorial trend in anime” on the last series weakened the Pokémon original build a friendship with it bro just kept throwing pokeball like Pokémon go AND it WORKED
Goh actually was a good character, his motives were just a bit meh. And his writing was a complete mess.
While i did enjoy his appearance in the anime, i think he would've done a bit better if he was a side character, or better yet, an mc of his own anime. I think being around Ash just limited which pokemon he could've caught in the timeframe of the anime since they're always in the same place together. A travelling character like Gary earlier on would've been a perfect characteristic for him so he could just show up from time to time and update Ash of his progress. I think that way, they could've shown his progress a bit better. Like if he caught this many after travelling to this one location/region and then showing up again later down the line to say he completed this regions dex or something.
Ash and Goh being together for me held both of their stories back. IMO, Ash should've taken the Galar Gym Challenge first and lose to leon before getting another chance again down the line when he enters the World Coronation Series.
I didn't like him on the bases that he was a Mary sue on catching Pokemon and that he caught a legendary with a normal pokeball I know that they only use normal pokeballs almost all the time now but still seeing a legendary being caught in a normal poke ball hurts a bit.
Goh is a symptom not the whole issue, he has problems but he's just one against several issues
He didn't ruin it ALL by himself, but he played a HUGE part.
correct me if i'm wrong, but in japan the common curtesy for receiving a complement is to be "humble", and deny the complement, while wearing their appreciation on their expression. pretty sure that's why characters can tend to get flustered over complements in anime.
They should of give him quick balls, not just pokeballs. His team was only active by 5 Pokemon.
Real
Hell Nah, that war criminal character should've never existed in the first place, That bastard is the same tier as Boruto and Kazuya from Rent-A-Garbage
That mofos disposable as Tracy, his slow death would've been a peak fanservice
@@BloodRedNegative understand, I thought he'd be like Red with catching like how Ash is Red in battling, they act like they couldn't get that type of character
@@lilmercy1580 If I were a character in that pathetic show, I would BULLY HIM TENFOLD, Haze him even.
He doesn't deserve to bounce back for sh^t. I'll make sure he stays down...permanently
YES! Goh basically became what Ash was meant to be! HE EVEN SOMEHOW CAUGHT A LEGENDARY!!!
Tbh Pokémon Journeys wasn't that good anyway. They did Galar dirty!
I'm making a video on journeys as a whole so stay tuned for that!
You talking about Suicune or Eteretuas?
@@darkdragon7210 Suicune.
@@ShadyRK9 Sigh, I was Afraid of that. I mean we've seen other trainers catch Legendaries b4, what's wrong with Goh?
@@ShadyRK9 Goh also caught Regiliki too. Besides people over exaggerate Goh catching a legendary, when Brandon, Tobias, a Nurse Joy, that Alt.Universe Zeraora guy and Ash himself has cought a Legendary or mythical. Heck there is a random background character with Heatran. Granted Heatran is not that popular, but still legendary. Meanwhile Ash has Nagandel which is an Ultra Beast, Melmetal a mythical and Legendary in Solgaleo. The last one counts as both the The Pokemon Company and anime treat as a capture of his. Even being included in Pikachu's mid battle motivating dream sequence showing all of Ash's Pokemon.
"Let the man turn 18" Blud its been 25 years and he still 10 ya think thats gonna happen? Still really agree with this video. Really glad i found your channel and its REALLY awesome
Thanks, man. I really appreciate it 💙
There is one thing that made things way worse. Goh broke the starter trends. And that also cause more backlash that cause his popularity to like 50% or worse
No. No he did not.
That is all. *drops the mic and walks away*
HAHA VALID FRIEND
@@Pokiiii62 Heh =3
Cause if there is one thing I do enjoy about Goh, it has to be his English VA in Journeys: Zeno Robinson. :)
Yeah I still argue that making Ash leave on Journeys was a bad idea. And the ending was pretty uninteresting. I really like Riko, Roy and Dot (especially Riko and Dot), but Ash should have went to Paldea and met Nemona. These two would share one braincell and it would be great.
That's very fair 😭
Okay, I absolutely adored Goh and his character to bits, I really don’t think all the hate towards him was necessary. I found myself deeply relating to his character and backstory. His friendship with Ash was absolutely adorable and I also love his English va!
But I’d be lying if I said there weren’t times where I was frustrated with the series. I feel like they gave Goh too much attention for a series where Ash is the main character, Pokemon Journeys sometimes made it look like Goh was the main character.
They definitely focused on Goh a lot more throughout the series until the Masters Eight tournament.
I wouldn’t go as far to say he RUINED Journeys, I really did enjoy watching him and I’m genuinely upset we won’t see him anymore, he had heart and was so passionate about his goal (even tho it was a bit basic)
I feel like with all the attention Goh got, maybe they could’ve given him a little spin off series because as I watched Journeys it honestly felt like Ash was the traveling companion instead of Goh 😭😭.
Journeys had SO. MUCH. POTENTIAL. Yes I enjoyed it, but it was very flawed and I do wish it was handled differently.
Goh was a good character in my opinion, he just was handled very poorly. But on the bright side, he got a much better story and character development than poor Chole JUSTICE FOR HER!!
WWWW NON BIASED GOH FAN HERE. chloe was severely undeveloped, and I agree with the rest as well
Bro Hop would've been so much cooler like Ash being a mentor to Hop and when Hop got down in the dumps after his loss to Bea it would've been cool for Ash to strengthen Hop and Have battle Ash and Made even surprise him once and beat him!
Goh seems as a Controversial Character, Whether he’s liked by many or hated others. I don’t hate Goh, But I do despite the episodes mostly focus on him. I still like Journeys imo tho, But that was one of my flaws with this series
Same
I never personally cared much for Goh, mainly because I found him to be boring. A big problem with Goh, and in my opinion the biggest reason why his goal of "catching them all" ultimately comes down to one major thing: the Pokemon that Ash and each of his various companions caught over the course of the series are characters in their own respects, and Goh owning such a huge number of them despite only appearing in one series of the anime as a whole meant that many of them didn't get to be as memorable because they didn't get much characterization. This is particularly problematic with Suicune, in my opinion: this is a Legendary Pokemon, so catching it should've been a MUCH bigger deal than it ultimately was, but not only did it not get to do much after being caught (even though you'd think they would want to do something important or cool with it, because, you know, it's a freaking LEGENDARY POKEMON), but Goh catching it should've been treated as holding more weight than it ultimately did, again, because it is a Legendary Pokemon. Because of this, seeing Goh catch it so easily and randomly not only felt unexciting because it was more or less treated just like any other random Pokemon Goh caught, but it felt underutilized, and therefore could've effortlessly been not added to Journeys because it's capture didn't make a significant difference in the end. To go off on a side tangent quickly, Pokemon being characters is also the same reason why unlike with most people, I'm happy Ash didn't catch the Latias that appeared at the end of the series, because it wouldn't have served much purpose, and doing so would only amount to giving Ash another glorified trophy in the form of a Legendary Pokemon that would do nothing to advance his character in any way; not to mention that Latias wouldn't be seen again after the fact because the series was ending at that point, kind of similar to his Torracat's evolution into Incineroar, really. Looking back at Goh, though, the other major problem I have with him is that, as was mentioned in this video, he more or less got half of the focus because he was made the secondary protagonist -- that said, this idea could've worked, but only if it were done earlier in the series, as that way, Ash and Goh could've each gotten more time to work towards their respective goals and develop as characters more, something that Ash got far more time to do than Goh because he was the main protagonist and had been in the anime since day one. That in mind, the reason why I feel this is a problem is because the series should've focused more on Ash and his goal of defeating Leon and becoming the World Champion: not only is it a more substantial goal with bigger stakes riding on it than simply "catching them all", but even with that aside, Ash being the main protagonist that we the viewers have been following the journey of for over 20 years at that point means that people were going to be more invested in seeing Ash achieve his goal than they would be with Goh, and this is reflected in Ash actually managing to become the World Champion to cap off his long career, while Goh, by contrast, never actually got to catch Mew, despite that being his primary objective throughout all of Journeys. It's for these reasons, I think, why people generally don't like Goh very much, and they are pretty valid in my opinion: Goh was a pretty underwhelming secondary protagonist that took screentime away from the character the audience would rather be the main focus, and he wasn't even allowed to achieve his goal despite becoming the secondary protagonist, which kind of makes his inclusion feel pointless to me at the end of the day.
That Suicune capture made me very, VERY angry to this day! Journeys just blatantly disrespects Legendaries and how they are supposed to be treated. Honestly, the first time Ash encounters Suicune and it helped Ash in the fourth movie was a great moment for it, makes it worthy of being catch by Ash. Suicune’s been my most favorite out of the Legendary Beast of Johto, but seeing that some low-level trainer like Goh captured it and caught it feels like an insult!
Its Not that Goh Ruined Journeys or that he's a Terrible MC, its Not even his Goal being simplistic seeing someone trying to catch them all is Refreshing I think. Its that Project Mew comes out of Nowhere and Lessens the character even Further! We even see that Shiny Hunter guy, would've like to see Ash Trade Noctowl to him then maybe Trade back or something just to help out.
Go catching every Pokémon is like someone in an anime wanting to be the strongest. It is a very simplistic goal
But I do agree that Project mew was incredibly bland and boring, bruh 💀
2:32, since when did my hero fans become pokemon fans 💀. This is why everybody hates the fanbase
Edit: I forgot to mention but some of my favorite journeys episodes are the goh flashbacks
FAIR
What condience, goh and deku have the same VA
Journeys was PEAK and Goh was fine plus we got project mew out of it and that was cool.
My biggest gripe with goh is that he is basically overpowered at everything he proposes and he doesnt put anything good into the series that other characters dont do, the fact that a normal pokeball unironically becomes a masterball at his hands is insane, ash struggled so much trying to catch pokemons without battling particularly in the first episode and then goh basically a ground 0 trainer does it first try, and dont get me started at the fact that basically mid season go almost caught a zapdos, imagine that happening with ash, he catching a Legendary pokemon who can alter the balance of the natural world mid season, besides goh is a terrible companionship, he has no reason to go with ash other than they are friends, killing the pacing of the series, and dont get me started on how he basically befriended eternatus, an extraterrestial pokemon that could destroy galar and he is just a good guy when goh catches him giving ash and leon a free dynamax, goh could be gone from journeys and the series would be better, the only good thing about goh is his cinderace, it was funny and one of the best pokemon in the series but they could just make ash caught cinderace instead
Don’t get me started on Goh catching all of the Galar starters, breaking away from Ash having the region traditional starters on his team
Nope, Chloe ruin it
For 75%, rest - Goh
Really? I found chloe to be less and less involved the more the show progressed
Here's a joke that's sadly a fact
It took until the end of JN to get rid of this guy
Maybe not but he definitely isn’t in the Top 10 rivals for ash
FRRR
ooh, giving me a chance to talk about one of my favorite fictional characters lets go!!
So I wanna start by saying that I totally understand why people dislike Goh. Him being a main character absolutely changed the formula of the Pokémon anime, and I agree that the writing wasn't the best. I think there are lots of changes they could've made while still having Goh as an MC and make it work better, but of course that's out of the question now.
Goh as a character, I PERSONALLY find EXTREMELY relatable. Certain episodes like the one where Sobble evolved into Drizzile really hit home for me, and I even got emotional watching that scene where he talked to it. I also think that Goh can be pretty funny, especially when he's bouncing off other characters, like Ash. He is DEFINETLY neurodivergent coded and that adds to the relatability. I of course know that he isn't written the best, but I think that if they were going for said neurodivergence, they definitely nailed it. Like I said, if the episodes and the pacing of Journeys was structured better, I think people would actually like Goh a lot more. Goh is a big nerd who grew up antisocial, and if that doesn't sound like anyone else aside from me then I'd be pretty shocked. I enjoy how passionate he is about his goal, even if the goal includes lots of plot holes. Just like Ash, he's determined, and never gives up, and since that's a character trait I've always enjoyed in Ash, it makes sense I'd like it in Goh too. A really funny aspect of his character that doesn't get pointed out a lot is how unathletic he is. It's a lot like Clemont from XY, but not as much attention is drawn to it. It always gets me to chuckle seeing the characters have to go down a hill or something, and then Goh is in the background stumbling/falling, or climbing very slowly and carefully while Ash just jumps down. That could just be me having a weird sense of humor for all I know, but if it makes me enjoy the show I'm watching, then so be it.
I will say that, as an English dub watcher, I definitely have a bias, since Goh is voiced by my personal favorite voice actor, Zeno Robinson. That man KNOWS how to voice emotional scenes (see Hunter from TOH if you don't believe me lol), and he's in general such a talented person.
As for the shipping aspect, I'd be a liar if I said I didn't enjoy it. I think it's cute, and the idea of it and their opposing character traits can make for some fun potential interactions. I make fanart of them every now and then, and get lots of enjoyment out of it (side note, Goh is a VERY fun character to draw in my opinion). I don't understand why people try insisting that it's canon though, because it clearly isn't, and IDK where they got that info from haha. Of course, I get why people don't like the ship. They clearly work great as just being close friends, and I'm glad they stayed that way. I don't expect everyone to like a ship, and I respect others opinions as long as they aren't being rude about it or shoving it down people's throats, and being respectful to people who DO like the ship.
Fans of Goh can get intense at times, but that applies to literally any aspect of any fandom. I REALLY hate when people generalize a group of people over a few stand out bad ones. I've seen people get attacked online for liking the ship of Ash and Goh when they aren't doing anything weird/bad or hurting anyone, and that harassment is completely unnecessary. Of course, if a person IS being a weirdo, especially when shipping is involved, they should be called out, but do so without grouping the rest of the fans in with them
IN CONCLUSION: Totally get it if you don't like Goh (or his ship with Ash), but judging and attacking people over it is stupid as hell. Being mocked over simply enjoying something is actually the worst sometimes, and I'll never understand why people do it. I find Goh an enjoyable, fun character who I will always love to see and project onto, as I find him incredibly relatable. If you read this whole thing, wow. I appreciate it lmao. Sorry for making you read an almost 19 year old's opinion on a silly little guy.
I agree heavily. People shouldn't be criticized for liking a certain character. Thank you for saying that. It's ok to like him!!
Its kinda ironic that he is one of the hated characters when he was the one that was really trying to catch em' all
I know, right 😭
I was agreeing with you up until the Shipping 💀
And your explanation made it worse, when people shipped ash with a lot and i mean A LOT of girls you guys were fine with it but when he was shipped with a boy the argument suddenly became "he's just a kid". Plus Serena was always flustered when Ash complimented her (even at times he didn't) and I love Serena but this is totally the same scenario and you guys are just uncomfortable with it being two boys
I do think there’s only thing we can all partially agree on. The backlash and complains in the Pokémon fanbase aren’t anywhere near as astronomical as what we’ve got now with Star Wars. Honestly it’s just getting so out of hand, it’s hard to take that series anymore for good reason as well too I have to say.
The issue I have with Goh is that it felt like the writers didn’t know what to do with him once Raboot evolved into Cinderace, while there are moments with him after that point but had they send him off after that arc was done and given that to another character like Chole or to Ash’s journeys team to put them more in the spotlight. The series may have been more well liked.
For me Goh was, as his name implies, a Pokemon Go player, in contrast with Ash being a "classic rpg" Pokemon player. That way, Goh makes sense, as in Pokemon Go you mainly mindlessly catch every Pokemon you see to keep them in a virtual safe, trade them to get something you cannot catch, or discretely turn them into candies. He even actually uses the Pokemon Go spinning ball technique.
Goh would be better if he had his own series and didn’t share one with Ash, catch them all is Pokémon’s trade mark so they could of had him be the main character of Ash retired.
Then again that would have made Liko not exist and we can’t have that.
Plus people would be mad if Goh caught a pokemon and he barely used it like his Cubone. People don’t like Ash’s Palpatoad and Boldore because they barely got screen time. While people love Greninja and Infernape because of their screen time and the attention they got.
Imagine if Ash caught a Dragonite or Gengar, Dracovish and Sir’fetched just for them to barely get screen time while a Lucario takes the spotlight…. Oh wait
That demon slayer spoilers man, I was trying so *hard* not to spoil anything before I start…
Bro.... I put a spoiler warning?
@@Pokiiii62oh damn, ig I’m just tired. Mb
ME Comenting before watching the Video:: YESSSSSSS!!!!
LOL
goh is a product of bad writing, and bad writing is always the killer. The issue is that goh's position, and his goal even though its the literal point of the series tag line none of it feels earned. Its a insult compared to having this being ash's LAST season which you made a point of.
"Ruined" may be a strong word, but if you want to consider every other cameo and characters that coulda used the screen time to expand that we didn't get enough of (or) fans wanted more of. Then yes, he did ruin journeys.
Shipping huh? Damn, Pokemon community has a lot of yachts
It wasn't his relatively weak character arc, it was his 99.99999% catch rate 💀
Don’t even get me started on when Goh found a shiny Volcarona, didn’t catch it, and in the VERY NEXT EPISODE was chasing after a shiny Voltorb in the middle of the street because he “wanted a shiny Pokémon for so long.”
I mean I’m pretty sure that Volcarona might’ve been a guardian or something but cmon the Pokemon MCs steal Pokémon from their homes and families all the time.
Let the man turn 18 also pokemon”yea ash is gonna be 10 forever”
Fr 😭
I honestly agree with the shipping part itself.
The only good things about Goh's shipping with Ash is the LGBTQ+ diversity and the moments they have together.
Other than that, Goh is not worthy in being Ash's romantic partner.
Goh is just a generic money farm noob for Pokémon who basically robbed goals and screentime especially from Ash, Serena, Brock, and even Misty.
The Satogou community itself is INSANELY TOXIC. Some people shove their headcanons and thoughts that it is canon when it isn't. They're also spiteful towards other ships.
Amourshipping and Pokeshipping communities are toxic as well. (If you're trying to spite me)
Just because there are official posts and behind the scenes stuff about Satogou, doesn't make it canon unless it is shown in the official show itself.
There are official posts about Amourshipping from animators and voice actors, would you say it's canon? Exactly! No!
Shipping wars about Satogou and Amourshipping are happening between the official Pokémon creators/voice actors themselves without any arguments.
It's best if you don't ship Ash with anyone until he turns into an actual teenager, not even Serena or Misty.
If anything, I really hope Ash ages up and he ends up with someone more worthy like Serena, Misty, or even Dawn. Just one.
And I hope Goh ends up with someone who isn't forced to have a relationship with him like Chloe.
If you like the ship OR Goh, then I won't kill you and I'll leave you to do your thing.
Even if Goh was actually a girl, he still is unworthy.
I feel the biggest issue with, Goh is that he's sort of the embodiment what was wrong with Journeys. Journeys wanted to do something different with how it progressed it's plot but the issue lied in the fact that it felt so unfocused since they're set up was essentially having Ash and, Goh travel the whole world and do whatever the episode demanded at that moment. It's because of this that, Galar is almost completely ignored with the show barely ever giving time to explore the region because they feel the need to go the other ones so that they can have, Goh catch the pokemon there. What makes this worse is that this resulted in so many of the characters in sword and Shield not making an appearance, I don't even think, Bede was ever even mentioned and with how in the games, Galar treats the gym challenge like a massive sporting event compared to the other regions, you don't really get to see that as since we have the masters tournament in place of the standard gym challenge and said tournament is happening in all the regions it makes, Galar seem like any other standard romp when we actually do get to see it. Goh, isn't what ruined Journeys he's simply the poster child for the shows issues and thus people tend to blame him for everything that was wrong with it when really he's more like just another problem in the grand scheme of things
I think Goh is adorable 🥺I have been watching/playing since OG gen 1 and honestly, I think the Journeys anime would have been better if it focused on ONLY Goh, featured Galar rivals like Bede, Hop and Marnie, and just let Ash sit this one out. I also love Ash, but Goh doesnt deserve the hate.
It's ok to love goh friend!!
I disagree with almost everything you said but hey, That's just my opinion, a Normal guy opinion
Hating on Goh for shipping makes no sense and is something I've barely seen. Just saying, shipping Ash with Serena is way more prominent and a lot of people don't really bat an eye at that
That's the point. I literally said shipping kids in general is a big weird no no. I didn't say it was just with goh.
No, in fact, he's the only main character out of the three that I enjoyed in the series. Ash lost all his charm at this point that I was wishing it should've been focusing on Goh instead cause his character depth and relationship dynamic with other characters was his shining point, problem is, his catching goal should've been done better.
I'm sorry, is this Goh's finale? no, it's not its ash's, so it shouldn't have focused all on Goh. That's a horrible take 😭
Tbh all the pokemon anime companions were enjoyable but the least enjoyable were especially these 2 which were Goh and Chloe. The sun and moon cast had more than double the amount of companions from the trial captains of akala, to Lillie and gladion, kiawe and Sophicles. But despite the large cast all of them had lovable funny traits especially kiawe. Honestly if this was gonna be ash’s last series (ik a lot of people are gonna hate me for this) but having an old companion like Gary, Brock, Sophicles, Serena, or even Iris or Cilan would have been great. All of them each had a way better relationship with ash than goh or Chloe ever had.
To me, I think the purpose of Goh's existence is to promote more on Pokemon Go instead of Sword and Shield. The premise of the anime is to watch Ash and Goh journeying across all the regions and meet new and old Pokemon. The fact that Goh just chuck a ball to any mon with a single Pokeball is absurd. Hell, there's an episode dedicated to catch all the Kanto bug types and they didn't even bothering to continue this trend likely because it was heavily rushed to try and promote Sword and Shield and its DLCs.
I could see a potential if the writers are at least closer to the game developers to know the game and its contents beforehand. But also the writers wanted to conclude Ash's journey now that he became a regional champion after 20+ years because why would he wanted to journey to another region and participate in another regional league.
Maybe, just maybe, if writers had ideas to make Goh the new protagonist, having most of the series focusing on Goh and his character development, while Ash being a mentor to Goh while him training for the World Championship and extend it until Scarlet and Violet, it wouldn't be a bad idea at all. But no, with all the 2 weeks break and writer scarcity, it's difficult to have Journeys to keep up, especially during the pandemic.
Well despite being a good series I feel that the series would've been better as a sword and shield series, you know gyms, companions, few pokemon, tournament. I like the part where ash becomes a champion, but it would've been better if it was after his trip to galar where he travels kanto and realizes there's a champion tournament instead of being rushed. Plus even if Goh and Chloe became his partners in galar, it would've made sense if Chloe caught more pokemon, Goh should've got less attention and starters, team rocket should've got their old pokemon back early on with James cathing moropeko afterward, and they didn't reply on filler episodes without catching a single pokemon. I mean Goh was in places with multiple pokemon spawning, yet he only caught a few from that specific place, he was in a forest and all he caught was a ariados and pineco.
Great video! I do agree that Goh (and Chloe) were sadly victims of circumstance. They were given a bad hand.
Had they got a LGPE or SwSh side series like how Alain and Mairin got in XY, then I'm sure they'd be more liked.
The road to his goal was stupid given the anime mythos, he doesn't even meet Willow or the actual GO Leaders.
Had Goh met Gary in 2019, he would've course-corrected his mindset since Gary had 60 total (200 via repeats).
Heck, he could've rivalled Leaf since she aims for Mewtwo. Heck, Gary MET Mewtwo and that went unaddressed.
Goh isn't given the opportunity to do Safari Zone Challenges like how May and Dawn did Contests to be engaging.
Or even use the Incenses, Berries and Modules from the mobile game. Items that are Brock, Cilan, Clemont coded.
All of his mons are caught in regular PokéBalls because the staff knew they couldn't keep track of 113 (RIP 151).
I still believe Goh should've battle the Galar gyms to prove his worth to Peony to take him on Legendary Raid Battles.
It would've been great prepwork for Mew. And instead of Eevee, let Chloe get Kubfu, a Pokémon who too is undecided.
They could've explored different pathways still. A Pokémon who needs discipline is a hand-meets-glove for a student.
Ash's final team should've been Pikachu, Gengar (Sabrina), Pidgeot (Mega), Lapras and Primeape (evo in MPM).
Mimey, Butterfree and Tyranitar rotate as the 6th member. Let Ash's last hurrah be him bringing his releases back.
This means Melmetal would've been his last catch - an IRL mon (GO) from Kanto (LGPE) who can GMAX (SwSh).
Liko and Roy are very much Ash split into 2 (emotional Pokémon understanding VS practical Pokémon battling).
While Dot is a do-over of Goh and Chloe since she has one's smarts and tech savvy and another's tritagonist role.
Thanks for the compliment, friend! and yeah, I feel like they could've been given better roles as characters for sure
You know the other real problem with Goh?
Not being bullied enough
If his goal was to do the same as the slogan, catching em all, what the problem? That's whe whole goal of pokemon so I don't see a problem
The problem is that it's something every trainer does already, it's so boring and bland
@Pokiiii62 I agree but let me play devil's advocate and say no one really encapsulated the motto of catching em all. Even ash only catches only 5 or 6 per region. Catching them all isn't really on his radar. So seeing somebody embody the game mechanics of completing a pokedex is refreshing as well
We should’ve gotten Hop as a companion instead of Goh ngl
WWWW OPINION
@@Pokiiii62 Thanks, man! If that actually hapoened, maybe it could be like Zactoshi's Sword and Shield videos where Ash and Hop are companions AND rivals to each other, and they could have the shared goal of getting to the top of the PWC and battling Leon
#IrrelevantCharacter
My issue with Goh is the same as a lot of other people: He catches for numbers. In every other series (including this one for Ash) the main characters are given their pokemon over time, so they can bond with them. Every pokemon has its own personality, and one of the best parts of the show is watching how they interact. With Goh, though, he only actually bonds with 3 or 4 of his pokemon, which makes his new captures feel less important. It feels like you shouldn't get too invested when he catches a new pokemon, because it's just going to sit around the lab anyway.
Im not a big goh fan, but he was fine. The problem with the show is how the main plot got practically no focus.
Very true
Here's a joke
It took until the end of JN to get rid of this guy
And if he comes back (HE WONT 🤬), his family's on the deathlist