2021 Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special First Ride
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- Опубликовано: 26 апр 2021
- Harley-Davidson’s Pan America 1250 Special performs on and off the road with a killer engine, a capable chassis, and innovative features. Cycle World takes it for a ride to see how it performs.
Phone calls, emails, and text messages came flooding in when I posted a teaser photo after my first day on the 2021 Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special. Well? How is it? Is it a competitor? And the most important question: Did they pull it off?
Yes. Yes, they did.
Harley-Davidson has built a legitimate adventure-touring motorcycle. I’m going to get hate mail from both H-D loyalists and adventure fiends, but I’ll say it: The 2021 Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special is the best motorcycle The Motor Company has ever produced.
There. I said it. I stand by it. Come at me. Harley has succeeded, much to the dismay of the social media naysayers.
Powering the Pan America 1250 is H-D’s new Revolution Max 1250, a liquid-cooled 60-degree 1,252cc V-twin. It’s a completely new engine designed from the ground up as the centerpiece, and structural chassis member, of the Pan America. Dual overhead cams are independently variable via cam phasers, operated by hydraulic pressure controlled by a solenoid plunger. Cam timing can be adjusted through 40 degrees of rotation, and because every cam has a phaser, front and rear cylinder valve timing are independent as well. Harley-Davidson pointed out that the drive-side cam journal is part of the drive sprocket, making it possible to remove the camshafts without disassembling the camshaft drive, simplifying service or upgrades. Roller-finger valve actuation is maintenance-free thanks to hydraulic valve lash adjustment.
Crankshaft connecting-rod journals are offset 30 degrees, making for a 90-degree firing order, which Harley claims produces more on-power traction in the dirt. Forged aluminum pistons stroke through 72.3mm in a 105 mm bore and feature a low-friction coating on the skirts, low-tension piston rings (again, to reduce friction), an anodized top ring land for durability, and underside oil jets for heat dissipation. The large bore requires the use of a dual spark plug design for complete and rapid intake-charge combustion. The compression ratio is 13.0:1, meaning the Revolution Max requires 91-octane fuel for best performance; knock sensors will trigger less aggressive ignition timing and fueling ratios. This will reduce the power, and although H-D reps declined to give a minimum octane number, they claim the engine can be run safely in regions with “low quality” gasoline.
Wow. That’s the short of it when describing the Revolution Max, and the first word my furry mug blurted out as I grabbed my first handful of throttle in Sport mode. Power comes on strong at around 2,200 rpm and continues to build with more and more velocity as you cross the 8,500-rpm mark. After that it begins to taper off in aggression until you reach the rev limiter at 9,500 rpm. That’s 9,500 rpm from a Harley. And while the low-end and top-end performance are impressive, it’s the middle of the digital tach that is the sweetest. Third gear is a set-and-forget mark for winding backroads, as the Max pulls with simple tenacity at the 5K mark to spring you out of the corners. The lean-sensitive traction control, C-TCS in Harley-speak, is the least restrictive in this mode and will let the standard, specially developed Michelin Scorcher Adventure tires do much of the work. The future of this engine is very bright indeed.
While Sport mode is the most aggressive and impressive of your choices, H-D has equipped the Pan America with Road, Rain, Off-Road, and Off-Road Plus modes. These modes are not only tied to engine performance but to suspension settings, engine-braking, and ABS settings. Road mode reduces that midrange stonk, but there’s still plenty of power on tap for any road work that doesn’t demand making the time between the corners short as possible. Rain mode reduces power significantly, but as there wasn’t even a chance of precipitation during our two-day test, only a quick confirmation of reduced power and maximum C-TCS was performed. Off-Road and Off-Road Plus provide a power level suited for dirt duty with a tractable character and reduced top-end power.
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Never thought I would want a Harley but here I am...
Excellent 👍🏼
Me tooo
@@horuslupercal3872 It kind of feels like Heresy, right?
Exactly what I came to comment.
Can't wait to test ride one.
My transition from "WTF?!?" to "hey, that's really cool" was unexpected!
Well done H-D and CW. 🇺🇸
This is proof that if you build it, they will come. They put 100% effort in, and didn't cut corners to save money. That's all they needed to do. Nothing more, nothing less. The customers can sense the dedication, and the pride, that the engineers applied. I would buy one, just to support Harley Davidson. They deserve our money, by putting in so much effort. (This movie quote above no longer exists, thanks to a timeline change).
The only bike from HD that has me interested...
Have you ever been on a Harley Jeremy?
I started out on other types of bikes but I ended up getting a Dyna Wide Glide on a trade and unfortunately I had to sell it at the beginning of last season and man was that an awesome bike to ride , I miss it every day !
@@h.d.mech.mortenson2098 I have ridden a harley with ape hangers and forward controls once. Did not enjoy it. I have had around 10 bikes... Harleys are not my style, I don't find feet forward comfortable at all. But, I will give it a test ride this summer, when I try the Pan Am!
@@CCitis I see. I find the forward controls great for myself. To each his own. I appreciate all bikes as there are too many cool ones to only like one style. That’s just my two cents worth.
@@h.d.mech.mortenson2098 it’s the beauty of motorcycles... there is one for everyone.
Hang on contact your local dealer and ask to ride a street Bob at least, this bike should fit you better since it has mid foot controls. I used to ride Yamaha dual sports and Suzuki street bikes, I used to say that I’d never own a Harley. I tried out a bunch of them at a local demo day a few years ago.. soon after I was perusing the classifieds for my Dyna Lowrider and I haven’t looked back!
Haven't seen a Harley get air since Evel Knievel.
You apparently have ridden before. 😂👌👍 Finally a Harley that they put their engineering superstars on. Harley Davidson is in it to win it.
Dude knows how to ride.
I was thinking the same thing
What's up Laidlaw! I'm going to be in your neck of the woods this weekend. Was thinking of stopping by your dealership. Do you have any of these on the floor to look at?
@@suburbanhobbyist2752 Look for the Pan America to start arriving in dealerships on May 3rd, with all dealers having a Pan by mid-May.
Thanks Matt!
Dudes that know how to ride on the open road keep both wheels on the ground.
I’ve never ridden an adventure bike but I want one of these. I hope they sell a million of them. Bravo HD!
I worked at a Harley store for a couple years doing F&I. I had come from riding mostly Honda superbikes and then Ducati’s before that. I had thought I’d fell in love with those machines… and, maybe I did a little bit. But, no engine config has ever captivated and enraptured me like a Harley Big Twin (my 2020 HD Low Rider S - FXLRS). I appreciate this guy’s perspective a lot, but the fact that he is so enamored with the engine on this new ADV bike from Harley tells me that he’s never really been smitten by the classic Harley growl and the odd architecture that creates that sound. When I still worked there and did a demo day for the new Pan America, the first thing I noticed was how UN-Harley the engine actually felt. It’s a good bike, but not a Harley to me. Harley should just remain small, cut expenses, and continue to perfect and offer what they do best.
Harley’s identity is, in large part, wrapped up in a sound… and, secondarily, in a look… consisting of unbranded, simple, generic looking parts bolted together to CARRY an engine that MAKES that SOUND. That’s mostly it. I think that’s the best starting place… to acknowledge that. Then, where do you go from here?
I wrote HD off a few years ago and decided to go anything else. But.....I absolutely LOVE ❤️ this bike. My hope is restored in HD. THANK YOU HD for listening to your NEW customer base. How about a 500cc SINGLE thumper for running around town? 😁
Adaptive ride height is far more useful than adaptive cruise control, looking on from the U.K. this bike is a winner well done HD good job🇬🇧👍
Adaptive cruise control sucks! You come up on someone not necessarily quickly and about the time you go to pass you’ve lost all momentum whike the vehicle decides when you are far enough back.
Adaptive cruise control sucks.
Beyond that…I like driving. Cruise control detracts from that experience, never mind that it contributes to the likelihood of falling asleep riding/driving.
HYPE!!! 🤑 Seriously though, hats off to Harley. This is a fantastic 1st attempt. The adaptive seat height innovation will change the entire market moving forward. So glad to see Harley didn't simply create some lame, dressed up cruiser. Reliability remains to be seen but for now we say, well done Harley. Well done. 👏
Lots of bikes have had adjustable seat height for a long time.
@@tomnwoo - The Pan America adaptive ride height is automatic. Bike lowers when the bike comes to a stop and then returns to normal height when underway. I don’t believe anyone has done that.
@@paulvanhout9695 Ah, now I get you, no I don't think anyone has done that
@@tomnwoo People as short as 5'5" should be able to touch both feet at a stop then it goes up once in motion if that helps make more sense. Like he said in the video, why other's haven't done this before is beyond me.
It took a couple of decades but... Welcome to the 21st century HD.
Right on the money 🤔🇿🇦
I've been riding a long time, ridden lots of HD's Never wanted a 800 lb bike with 70 hp and way too much noise and vibration... Maybe this is the one ??
One of the most comprehensive - yet succinct - reviews with awesome shots, thanks!
This is how you do a bike review. The review/editing was perfect, I feel like I have practically rode her myself.👏👍🔥
Absolutely one of the best reviews I've seen on the Pan American! Thank you! I'm so tempted to trade in my RG!....
I watched Baldy's video and I'm like who's that dude ripping down the turn on dirt, then I saw this vid and I'm like, hell yeah!
Excellent review and I love the videos!
Riding it hard and showing off what this beauty can do. I took one for a test ride today and I loved it!
Nice review & clips. You are not that bad in riding:-) this Bike. Looks like a great deal of fun. Thank you!
If I hadn't bought a Kawasaki Versys 1000 LT SE+ last year, I would take a SERIOUS look at this ride. Never thought I'd give a thought to anything from H-D, but here it is.
Great riding skills Bud.. Love everything about it even the looks..
118 years in the waiting...Great Job Justin!
I got to ride both versions of the bike recently on-road at a demo event, and I was really impressed. Harley got so many things right with the bike, they’re going to have trouble keeping these in stock.
I hope so. If this is successful, HD may begin innovating and keeping their big cruisers as simply a part of their lineup.
@@TylerTron21 Yet they priced this bike lower than some of the competitors. It appears you get as least as much value for the money. It seems like no matter what HD does they can't shake the same old complaints (even when it is no longer true).
Lower price means nothing if you have to buy everything from Harley. Everything has to be an add on at a certain price. Might as well get a GS or a 1290.
@@TylerTron21 The Pan is made in York, PA, along with the rest of the 2021 line-up from H-D. You can watch the video where Jochen visited the production line: ruclips.net/video/hPiFtq4r6zQ/видео.html
@@TylerTron21 The engine and powertrain is manufactured and assembled in Menomonee Falls, Wisconsin. The final vehicle assembly is done in York, Pennsylvania.
NIce Video Great review. Nice to see HD make a modern bike thats appealing. The Lowering system has my interest peaked.
Great video, looks like Harley have done a really good job with these!
I also think that they've done well with the price too, I was expecting them to be more expensive!
Great job, nice riding makes me want to get one after watching you ride it.
Did not think this HD would make me consider giving up my Multistrada 950, but maybe.
I am to old and beat up to ride off road anymore but I cannot wait to see what Harley has in store for this motor. I would be all about having this motor in a Road Glide with new chassis and suspension. Bring it on!
Put street tires on it, and it would make a great sport tourer. Better than a road glide in every way.
@@phillipbatho3213 the street tires are standard. The spoke wheels with nobbies are optional
@@okie-rider you're right.
How bought a larger version of the motor like a 96 or 103 tuned for like 150 TQ & 150 hp on the current bagger class with some other mods like better suspension & brakes
@@scrumthebum2451
Funny. I was thinking a 550 HD Super Legarra version would be cool. That 1200 is a lot of bike for older folks or shorter people - or a lot of women who trend to be shorter than men’s averages. And then a ‘character’ model variation applying post-modern engineering and design with the spirit of a FJ1100; it already has the cc’s and roll-on response that may perhaps even exceed the perfect FJ1100.
Okay, so in the first 2:00 minutes, you provided more information than the other 20 super long reviews I've watched. Finally. This is a proper review. To recap: Revolution Max engine. Has variable valve timing. Specs: 150 Horsepower. 94 ft lbs of torque. 9500 RPM redline. Torque begins after 2200 to 2500 rpms. At 70 mph it's turning about 4000 rpms.
Well done Harley!
I don't know if the hog audience will adopt this bike, but adventure riders in the US market will be hard-pressed to skip this Harley to buy a German, British, Italian, or even Japanese alternative. Outside the US, trade taxes notwithstanding, I give Harley about even chances. I used to hate Harleys, but this bike has shocked me into the opposite direction. Go Harley Davidson!
BTW Cycle World, this is the best intro video I've seen on this bike so far. Positively ass-kicking riding and great video.
Thanks Addy.
@@MustMoto Dude, until now, I was focused on Fortnine, Zack and Ari, and Itchy Boots. Now your name is among them in my book. Justin Dawes. I have subscribed with notices and will be on your trail.
Traded my 17 road king special in on one . This is a game changer for Harley
Great review. I want one!
I’m so glad you used a dirty bike in your presentation. That made it more authentic for me. I like to leave my KTM 1290 SA dirty for a week or so after a big ride. It looks proper with dirt on it. Glad to say, so far, this bike is exceeding my expectations.
Wow great review and riding
Wow, I want one! I’m 45, ride an Electra Glide Ultra Limited and have a KLR. I’ve had tons of bikes and this one would combine two of my favorites.
I've liked the look of this motorcycle since they first showed images of it. I also guessed correctly that it would be priced well, be light enough and, in general, be a great ADV motorcycle. Happy to see my assumptions confirmed.
The big thing with this is the dealer support. Which I think is key for an ADV. My first bike was a Sportster so I dropped it a few times haha. It was great to be able go to my local Harley dealer and pick up replacement mirrors and shift levers and clutch/brake levers. If they didn’t have it in stock (rare), they could get it in a few days. In contrast, My Z800 is a pain because my dealer has to order everything even for a basic oil change which can take 7-10 days. I ordered an OEM clutch lever for it and it took two weeks!
The alternative lifestyle fantasy that comes with an adv bagger will sell PanAmerica as much as the bike itself.
It's a 2 weeled Jeep Wrangler
I'm in love with the front end
Great review interesting bike from H looking forward to see it in the Real Metal.
Love the chunky look of this weapon👍🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Great review. Well done. Took a break from my Street Glide Special to try adventure riding with a BMW a few years ago. For a guy who's 5'9", the ARH is a differentiating feature worth considering a trade of my F800GSA. Thanks !
Great review! Got one on order
Well done H.D.!!! Trail bikes are the best bikes!!!
Looks killer. Really amazing 😃👍
Thanks for the awesome riding masterclass. Also, on the review, please note that they also missed out on shaft drive. Huge one.
Shafty has its place but I’m not sure this it
You have my attention Harley but I'm waiting on the first wave to sell through, watching build quality and reliability.
You know what? THAT is a reasonable comment (as opposed to to those who automatically jump to some nonsensical "it's junk"... "It's outdated technology...", Etc...).
Beautiful Bike. I definitely want one.
Wow, you are a good aggressive rider. Great review. Looks like you didn't baby it.
Looks like something lego-batman would drive. But in good way. Very positive suprise from Harley!
Great review!! you were ripping on that bad boy!!!!
I'm not a fan of adventure bikes and I'm certainly not a Harley fan but I like this...
Great review. I'm not sure about needing cruise control and adaptive radar as all these rider aids can lead you into a false sense of security and you might just take your eye off the ball for a brief moment and that's all it takes.... Keep your eyes on the road...
The looks are growing on me.
yea kinda like the homely girl, that no one wants to date, but rumor has it that hummer is her middle name.
That HD is fugly! And since HD stealers...errrr...uummm i mean dealers love your money..... well u get the pic...
Great to see this happen! Finally, a competitive, real non-cruiser from HD. Trying to get past the body design - not feeling it. I get it, but I think it's a bit heavy-looking/ham-fisted and could've been rendered better. But it sure looks like a compelling choice.
I put down a deposit on the PA Spec today. Can't wait!
LOVE the idea of adaptive ride height, as someone who isn't the tallest (32 inch inseam), I cant agree more with the comment of "how has it taken this long?" just a fantastic idea that'll make any of the modern beasts at least a little bit easier to ride.
I love it! My 2018 Ktm1290s just got stolen so I’m looking. Love he new Ducati multistrada as well... big bore super adventure comparison coming soon?
Harley dealer network is huge. Ducati dealers are few and far between. Makes a big difference when traveling
@@badhonky6473 only in america
Might be a Harley in my garage soon 😎. Who would’ve thought 👍🏼
If Harley made the Nova V4 into a production bike back in the AMF era "135 horsepower back in the early 80's" it would of been a different type of motorcycle nowadays. But they didn't have the finances or tooling to make it a production bike and they got rid of Buell what was becoming a great motorcycle.
Maybe it is not the best overall but it's my favorite! I wish I could own one!
Time will tell if it is the best overall. It's not at fast as the KTM, but it is also not Big, and bulky as most of the adventure bikes out there. It is fast and very nimble. I have ridden several Adventure bikes and never felt really comfortable, mostly because of the height. I usually am standing on my toes. I test road the PA yesterday and the minute I sat on it, with both feet flat on the ground, then the test drive just blew me away, I knew this was my next bike. I put a down on it and am now just waiting for delivery.
I'll let you know after Friday. I signed up for a test ride. It looks quite interesting.
I've already had my test ride- you're gonna love it!!
Great review. I just took out the R1250GS adventure for a test ride yesterday but found that due to the handlebar position/width it caused a lot of pain in my neck and shoulder, have you ridden the GS Adventure and therefore can comment how the Pan America compares in this regard? I can’t find any specs how wide the bars are etc
We are planning a big shootout at the end of this month, stay tuned for that.
never seen someone ride a stock Harley that way! I want to see the same suspension in the Pan America in the touring and softail bikes. Then Harley will be on the same playing field as Indian as far as technology goes.
Good observation, but I think Harley has just taken a pot-shot over Indian's head right at BMW, KTM, and Aprilia. They are not fooling around here. I think Harley is counting a lot of American money these days that WAS headed for Europe.
Nice video! It will take a long time for me to get my head around the looks of the thing though.. I wish they'd put that motor in a naked, or bikini faired *Non cruiser* bike! Think old Suzuki Bandit-style. That could most likely tip me over to buying my first H-D
Crusing Trona Pinnacles & Death Valley on a HD P-A. That's a win win in my book!😎
Not much new information but I love the action shots! Power wheelies! I’ve had a deposit on it since they announced it. Still no word on delivery dates. 😢
My local H-D dealership got their first one today 4/28/21
@@hddynoguy a customer bike? Or just one for them to get familiar with?
In their Facebook post said it was going to be there for a day. My assumption it will be delivered to the customer.
I think this bike is pretty...there, I said it.
All adventure bikes are mostly ugly. I don’t think it matters with an adventure bike. That said, this is maybe the best looking adventure bike. The headlight put me off at first, but now it is starting to grow on me or at least not put me off. Maybe the Africa twin is as good looking? The Harley looks like a overgrown version of a vintage motocross bike to me. Great job HD.
@@f1hotrod527 I actually think the T7 is the best looking bike for ADV, Pan-Am second.
When I first saw the prototype, I immediately cringed. I don't know if seeing rip through the dirt and twistys has changed my view of it or what, but it has definitely grown on me since the release. I believe I will be a Pan America owner.
Its got that pretty hoover vacuum look!
I’m impressed !
Now , it should be interesting to see if the dealers can figure out how to sell ‘em .
Lmao, um....put them on the floor and take people's money. It isn't that hard. This whole myth about HD dealers is so tired. They will sell them just fine. In fact, I would venture a guess that most non HD people that go into the dealerships to buy them are going to quickly understand what real service and dealerships look like for the first time in their lives (as opposed to the Ducati and BMW dealerships that are often times horrible).
What do you think about the coil/plug wire setup sticking out on the left side?
Sick bike
Thanks for the great review. I finished reading your article where you mentioned "the heat radiated to my right boot from the Pan America’s catalytic converter". Which exhaust did you had installed on your test PA? Stock or screaming eagle? When I tested the PA few days ago at my local HD dealer I did notice the heat issue you mentioned. The test bike had the stock exhaust. I was expecting the screaming eagle to fix the issue (possibly).
We rode with both exhausts and the issue was the same.
love this bike
how about 2 up riding??? 2 adults + factory accessory top case? Is the passenger seat comfy for a long ride? Is there enough room for 2 full grown adults or is it going to be squished - with the rider pushed forward against the tank? The seats look much thicker and plusher than the competition, but not sure what the actual "butt feel" is like.
So the general takeaway is it's better than some of us thought it would be.
Will the marketplace care? That's HDs quandary.
If it turns out to be reliable,they've got a real winner.Kind of wish they fitted it with shaft drive though.
Yes, I test rode one and yes, I'm going to get one... but it'll be in the future as I'm still paying on my 115th Anniversary Heritage. Already planning on a 2023 Pan America Special - the 120th Anniversary 😁
Watch out boys... this bike is what the cops will be riding when they chase us.
hehe
Nope.... some of them are riding a Concours 14 set up for police use...... DO NOT try to outrun them unless you're on a literbike.
@@wwb7091 Don't outrun them unless you want to end up splattered.
Did they really have to put the CAT right by the peg though? Looks hot
How would you pop a small wheelie going over a log?
Nice job HD...just needs a quickshifter and a shaft!
This is an interesting motorcycle.
I want one!
I've only got money for a T7 lmao but it will be cool to see a Harley out on the BDRs
Wonder how much weight can be saved if you dump the giant stock exhaust... Hopefully they come out with stage kits for it!
The Screamin' Eagle Exhaust drops 7 pounds.
I've always hated HD, but this thing is pretty sick. I even enjoy the funky styling. Well done Harley, give me a quickshifter and I might consider one.
Not knocking you at all but I find it funny that you (and others I've read comments from) call this bike "funky" etc... when describing the styling but say nothing about the looks of a GS, KTM, or Multistrada.... As if those bikes are what is "normal" in bike looks department. It reminds me of an old twilight zone episode where all these doctors and nurses are trying to fix a patients looks so that she can fit in to normal society. When they unmask her, she's beautiful. Just gorgeous! But then they say "we're sorry... We did everything we could do..." And when they pan out to the (until now) never seen doctors and nurses, they are all "monsters" (by earthling standards).
They could restyle it ‘lean’ looking but it’s weight would probably stay the same. While bodywork conjures opinion, at ground level airspace weighs nothing.
I hope the new Sportster has that engine in it.
I'd love that engine on the tri-glide
For me this engine is proof that the days of hot air cooled engines are over. And with the horse power these engines can
produce that are not overly huge I am sure a slightly larger version is in the works for the big heavy touring models such as the street glide special, Electra glide, road glides where two up riding and extra gear is carried. The ride mode technology is crucial now days so I am now convinced HD and upper management know they have to stay ahead instead of behind. I am sure my 2017 107 Milwaukee 8 street glide special will be replaced by a revolution max type real soon rather than later, This motor has less moving parts so it will be an ease of maintenance for customers and HD dealer mechanics to keep on the road and off lifts.
In general its a nice bike, but still all I need is light 600-800 cc, twin, under USD 10k, no-hightech motorcycle (Tenere 700 or similar). I believe HD 800cc Pan America would bring much more revenue to the company and happines for the customers.
so close to trading in my street glide for this bike....or maybe gonna have to have both....
I really like this. However, I am curious to see what an application of this motor will look like in a smaller naked bike to compete with Yamaha, Kawasaki, and Honda
more i see it the more i like it.........but i'm a cruiser/tourer rider when will harley give US the Rev Max Motor
I'm waiting for a street tracker with decent suspension travel (like the Indian FTR) but I suspect the marketing people have decreed a low seat height. Hope I'm wrong.
one thing i miss about the magazine reviews is the spec page . i like these video reviews except for that one thing . it would be easy to add and i can't think of a good reason not to .
All of our reviews have them--- www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-reviews/2021-harley-davidson-pan-america-1250-special-first-ride-review/
Adaptive cruise control on a motorcycle is too much. Kind of ridiculous.
Hell yeah !
If you added 2” risers but thought a 1” riser would be perfect for you, why not just rotate the handlebars forward and up 1” and readjust the levers and controls? Was it because that also moves the handles forward? Reason I ask is that is what I plan on doing when I get it in July.
Rolling the bars forward will increase the angle of the handlebar ends in relation to the ground. Not ideal. H-D just needs more options in rider height. I'd take the 2" riser over the stock height every time however.
@@CWjustindawes lance coury was the stunt rider for the PA and in the video at 7:35 ruclips.net/video/cVMj5UpmpZs/видео.html. describes rolling the bars up and is what I did on my current bike so I could stand on the pegs and have a more comfortable seat triangle. The higher risers cover the screen too much I hear.
Looks tough
Does the adaptive ride height make the kickstand funky ?
H-D kickstands are funky in general, so no more so than usual.
Why would it be an issue? ARH is only active during motion. When it's stopped, the bike is always at it's lowest position. It's automatic.
@@nickpapagiorgio8038 I guess ya gotta wait till the thing is lowered before putting the stand down...
@@nickpapagiorgio8038 or carry a rock or pc. of wood to prop it up when it craps out , cuz we know computers and sensors never fail and off road riding/water never results in breaks or failures . what could go wrong ? don't ever forget murphys' laws - one of many - if it can go wrong it will go wrong . and the rumor is he was a optimist .
I have a feeling that this engine just might pull Harley's mass out of the fire.
I hope so for them. Dude rides almost as good as me..... ;)
If I ever reach boomer status I might consider swapping my DR650 for one. Looks good H-D