I couldn't be happier with my '19 F250 with a 6.2 & 6-speed. I drive the wheels off my truck and it does everything I ask of it, including towing heavy loads & plowing snow. Yesterday I filled up the gas tank with $1.18/gallon gas. It cost me $35.00 for a full tank! The motor is powerful, quiet, & very responsive. I was weighing my options between gas and diesel last fall when I bought it, after 6 months of ownership I can say without a doubt that gas was the right way to go for me. (also added bonus, I've changed my oil 3 times now and it cost me $35 for oil and filter...cheap to maintain too!)
@@fathertime209 the 30 gallon tank is the only one available for the short bed. I get about 400 miles on a tanks. I get 12.5-13.5 mpg. Mostly in town driving and pulling a trailer 1-2x per week.
Andre is at home when he's talking about trucks he's like a kid in a candy shop. He has been growing in his role and seems more at ease on camera now. A well put together video with excellent information too. I was almost talked into becoming a truck guy. Well done Andre. Keep up the good work TFL...
Your fuel MPG gas vs Diesel needs to include the real cost difference: the additional sales tax on the $8,000 add for the diesel upgrade over the 7.3l Gas (here in WA it is 10% or $800), the nearly $0.60 higher price per gallon of diesel (based on 3/29/20 National averages) plus the cost per gallon of the diesel required DEF fluid.
Ya, deleting now days is tricky......I would not advise it on a newer truck especially in a state that's outlawed it.....I mive in comi California, so deleting is off the table, plus there is extra registration fees d/t the added weight, plus the cost of maintenance and Diesel Fuel.....I am really torn between the 7.3 and purchasing another diesel.....there is a huge draw to being able to use 87 octane vs. Diesel....and I will be using this as a daily driver...........
Greg Smith hey buddy have you considered buying a used diesel? I bought a 2014 F250 6.7 powerstroke king ranch a few months ago for 31k with 113,000. I was in the same situation, I live in Arizona so it gets up to 115-120 for months during the summertime,it’s even over 100 at night,I have a f150 that can tow 9,500lbs but my concern was towing during summer,plus mountains surrounding us elevation can get up to around 7,500-8,500 ft plus the heat so I was torn between a f150,F250 (gas),and F250 diesel. I went with the diesel because in the future there will be plenty of high temp high elevation towing. I typically buy vehicles 5-6yrs old I don’t buy new,I’m only 26 but I drive my vehicles to 400-500k. First truck was my uncles 81 f100 450,000 miles on it still ran great. I can do most of the maintenance only thing I’m hating is regens I live southeast of Phoenix so ends up wanting to do regens close to the house. It’s a tough decision,I think tfl said it for like 15mpg,I don’t think it’s bad my 09 5.4 3v gets best 15mpg. It just depends if buying new. Like for me and you as well I have the 6R140 transmission if for some reason the engine took a dump I could put a 6.2 gasser in it,I could put another 6.7 powerstroke, or a Cummins swap. And the truck keeps going down the road. Their is som much you can do.so if you have 400,000 on it and don’t want to get rid of it spend a few grand and put a gasser in. That’s the way I see it buddy. You think I made a good choice and purchase???
@@brianaustin6184 I do, and you did your research! I currently own an 06 F350 with the 6.0. It has 140K miles and has been towing a 38 ft toy hauler. It has been bullet proofed. I am towing between 13 and 14k with it. For its age it does pretty good. I hear you with buying used. Every vehicle I have ever owned has been used and I have been very lucky. I was really nervous with this truck but with the custom tow tunes it gave me the ability to lock out over drive which has made HUGE differences in how it tows. I will be honest I have gotten cought up in the new HP and Torque gains with these new trucks and have been going against my better judgement with purchasing new vs used....I currently do not have to deal with Def fluid and regen. I have been kicking around the idea of just keeping the ol girl and getting the trans rebuilt and beefing it up and dropping .430's in the rear end...and I would imagine that would be a world of difference between how it tows now. I keep getting close to pulling the trigger on somthing then I look at that payment vs. the appeal of no payment and I know what I have now.......and for you I am familiar with AZ and just how nasty it gets.....judging by the temps you threw out I am guessing Tuscon, Chandler Pheonix area.....so I would have gotten a diesel in your case for sure......they tend to deal better in the heat while towing in my opinion. I have towed my trailer in 115 degree weather up and down grades and I have to blow the thing up.....I am not hammering down on her either but you know what I mean.
@@brianaustin6184 hey Brian, I hear ya! And appreciate your input. Regard the 4.30's I would not use her as a daily driver if I dropped those in. I haul once or twice a month out to AZ which is an easy pull, then I go up to Oregon and camp out on the coast. The stretch down the 5 is easy.....but hauling through the mountain range up into Oregon is hard on my truck with the trailer fully loaded. Was thinking the gearing would take some of that stress off the drive train and motor.
Get a cap for a Superduty pickup and some bucket seats and you got a excursion I don't see them bringing it back it was a beast and with the fuel efficiency standards they want to improve there fleet, I could see it a a trim level type thing for Superduty though
Great Video! Andre covered all the details that people need to hear before making an informed decision when purchasing a Super Duty. That Diesel option is hard to beat! Power and Fuel efficiency. This video made my day. Thank You
A guy on my street has an F250 crew cab 2wd 6.2L and pulls a mid-size 5th wheeler! All we have to worry about in south Louisiana are overpasses and bridges over the River. He’s only gone on weekend trips as I could see when passing. I don’t speak to him so I guess he’s happy having had the truck about 3 years.
@@TFLnow if you do this, please consider asking the callers a question or two back to them. I think that makes for a more engaging show for the listener.
WOW!! 1050 Ft. Lb.and 37,000 towing!! Those are Peterbilt or Kenworth day cab numbers...in a PICKUP TRUCK!! Not sure what guy needs that sort of power from a pickup but it's cool it's available. Nice video!!
Hi TFL Studios Crew hope everyone is safe. Just this week we picked up a 2020 f350 crew cab 4×2 short bed with the 6.2 v8 and 10 speed. I must say this combination really feels great. I only have 140 miles on the truck but compared to our other 2019 6.2 with the 6 speed I feel that the 6 speed transmission hurt that engine fuel economy. Just the other day on a short trip in and out of town I saw 14 mpg with the 2020.
My first car was a Ford truck. 50 years later, I'm still driving a Ford truck. Needless to say, I'm not here looking for advice, just get a kick out of the videos
I have the xl with stx package and the 6.7 powerstroke, coming from an f150 with the 5.0 there is no way to compare the two, the 6.7 is a beast for towing. We bought a bigger trailer and I really wanted the powerstroke, and am 100% pleased with it. We have several 6.2 at work and I've never been that impressed with it, it gets the job done but for towing the diesel is just class leading and never runs out of torque. The diesel is expensive though, I got mine as a leftover truck for a great price, if they didn't give me the deal I got I would have never went with it.
I really appreciate you guys and your reviews, I knew after watching the Ike Gauntlet videos which pickups would work for me. When I finally decided to buy a pickup to supplement my 1999 Super Duty (We love that pickup and kept it) we knew we had options and started our negotiations with that in mind. We eventually landed on a 2019 F350 and with all the incentives and our company rebates we ended up getting enough off the price to more than cover the Diesel so we decided not to wait for the Godzilla. FYI, I laughed when you said you were in Las Vegas NM...This is one of many locations I travel to in our 4 state region working for my company, its fun to tell my better half "I'm off to Vegas". Stay healthy!
Soooo nice to see some Tremor content. Looking forward to more. Those numbers are impressive! Some more side by side comparisons, I hope, is on the menu!
Good stuff. There are a lot of people that can look online and configure, however, not everyone knows which configuration is good for what. Your explanation is going to help a lot of people. Besides, you're TFL and people enjoy seeing the visuals you offer. The real world views and reviews adds to the buying choices. I was not even aware the base was 33K +. That is a LOT of money in my opinion for a basic entry level. Ranchers and the likes that just need a work horse sure have to pay big bucks these days.
Not sure if you guys have done this but same hill, same weight, same truck, only difference is rear axel ratio and see how drastic the difference really is, because manufacturers will change tow capacity by a couple thousand pounds just by changing the rear axel ratio
@@richfarfugnuven6308 I'm saying its insane because on the street the truck just roasts the tires with minimal effort. It is too much torque when not hauling a load.
The way I see it if your not towing and hauling too heavy and use the truck for the weekend to take the family on road trips and sometimes use it for work and play get the 6.2/10 speed good power and efficiency, if your towing every day especially heavy or you got a hotshot lifestyle definitely the 6.7 power stroke/10 speed , and if you got dump trucks or snowplow trucks or a business that uses those specific kinds of truck’s definitely get the 7.3 V8 strong and good power but overall it’s just my opinion , but hey get whatever your heart wants
I would really like to hear an update on your 7.3 Ford F-250 after you get some miles on that motor?? Curious to see if the MPG improved after it broke in a little? Excellent review of the Super Duty
If you're concerned about mpg just buy one and upgrade its fuel tank. There's 60 gallon tanks, 70 gallon tanks. Can go 1000 miles on a single tank in these easy.
I can't wait for you to test the 6.2 10 speed... I'm in the market to buy a new heavy duty truck, either a ram or f-350 and leaning towards the Ford, I have been watching your channel a lot for reviews
I hauled 2 ton in the bed of my pickup today iv put 3 and half tons befor and it's a f150 2004 heritage 10 gen was badass 4.6 hauls like a champ barley even have to hit the gas only up hills and u dont need overdrive it will get up to speed without it,... it's awesome I love my truck I can put more than a 1 ton dully in weight on my truck I can haul triple the payload it awesome I can just imagine today's when I was driveing how the turbo diesel would be like ,its probably amazing... Lol that 12,000 to 15,000 pounds is a heavy duty truck lol that is nouthing mine has done 13,900 befor driveing 2 and half hour away like a champ weighs 4,600 pounds, and my dad hauls 20,000 a day in his EcoBoost in trash business lol I can honestly say we haul alot on ower f150s and proved they are the toughest truck ... That scrap yard said mine was the biggest load they've ever seen on a half ton lol haha I guess I'm going to have to put heavy duty on mine lol or super f150 lol and 16 mpg isn't bad at all that's great I get that with a straight pipe and about 10,000 pounds that 350 is amazingly ecosport for commenting so much but I love comparing the work I can do . That dully 350 hauling 7,000 is really not alot you need to put like 50,000 on that and see what it does I can do what you guy are doing in my f150 lol I can haul 2 of those tractors and a bob cat ik I can ...might be squatting alot but ik I could do it I'm gonna get more leafspring and better shock soon I'm upgrading ik I could it that 6.7 to 0 to 60 is amazing mine gets like 9 second but I'm gonna make it faster now that I know this I'm starting to realize that heavy duty truck are the same as normal pick ups they just do huge load more efficiently I think that the reason they made the EcoBoost bc my dad has the same power as me but he gets better gas mileage I'm the completely opposite though built to burn fuel and shit so it all the depends on what your doing ,all trucks are great though just what do you exactly want and what your doing with it and we're you do want your money to go in the long run
14:31 Wow! Seeing a pickup Truck pulling a Excavator like this is so Awesome. 😯😀 I'm looking into getting at 250 or maybe a 350 for hauling a Moving / Tool trailer. I don't have a Class A license yet but want something that's ready to go if a get a trailer that over 10,000 lbs. 😊
I am torn between the 7.3 and the 6.7. Cost, as always, will be the deciding factor, when I buy, as I have seen some good deals on 2500 Ram Cummins, too.
Leland Holton do you think that combo will give you the best gas mileage set up? I’m curious what the real world numbers on that combination would provide...
Just got the 7.3 in Blue Jean blue on a whim. Was looking for a 3.5l 150 when the wife saw the Godzilla. Still a little sticker shocked, but the hills in Idaho are big. Looking forward to not hitting a low of 20mph like the 5.4L with the trailer.
Az resident here. Looking at an F350 Dually with the 6.7. Id love an F450, but I just cant get past the commercial tires. Super singles would be a fun conversion for a 450, but very pricey. I think the 7.3L would be ok, but it gets HOT here in Phoenix. Trying to tow with gasoline up out of the Valley in the summer for vacay.. yeah I want diesel!
Damn, I already bought one 3 months ago. Guess it's too late for me now. I'll just have to do with the f350 lariat 7.3 tremor with the stowable loading ramps I ordered it with...
7.3 liter: good old pushrod engine would be my choice. I believe that 10 speed auto is a joint venture between Ford and GM so same trans should be available in HD GM trucks as well.
Ford's literature says the 7.3 is not compatible with E85 gas This is a problem in that way too many gas stations only offer E85. Having to visit stations which may or may not have gasoline that's compatible with the 7.3 will be a hassle
Hey TFL, I recently saw a video, where a guy bought a brand new 2021 F-150 Limited in white. Gorgeous. However 1,000 miles into it he noticed some serious rusting of the differentiate, axle, and most of "VITAL" components of the truck. Can you do a video addressing that? I was thinking of buying one till I saw that.
Thinking of putting rack on bed for roof rack tent. Also tow mid size trailer for bed and bathroom. I might also take truck for Costco run. Should I get f450 6.7 or wait for next gen with 2,000 pound of torque. Can’t make up my mind
Do all new 3/4 ton trucks weigh north of 8k lbs? My old ‘02 Duramax was about 6,800 lbs and I thought that was heavy. The weight negates much of the Ford’s advantage of an incredible 475hp/and 1k of torque. I got about 18 mpg hwy in my diesel. Not much progress in 18 years. I assume most of weight is in the now fully boxed HD frame. Could they lop off 1k lbs? PS: Where is Moab video?
TFL, Where is the video that has the DRW with the 3.73 axel and 7.3l v8????? I have looked thru your entire video library and still have not found it. Thats my exact truck that I just ordered. Please help me find that video
@8:37 wasn't the Ike gauntlet run with 16,000 lbs not 7,000? Also, it would have been good to state the mileage with the weight being towed. But awesome video 👌.
My father just got the f350 with the 10 speed and the 6.2. I’m curious as to what it can tow. It’s an xl crew cab long bed 4x4. Unfortunately his 2015 6.2 blew up; probably dropped a valve. Hopefully they fixed that.
I see that you did an Ike Gauntlet run and a fuel economy run in blizzard conditions. Does that make the numbers worse or better than if it were run in dry conditions. I guess if you ran all the makes in crappy weather it would yield like results.
Nice and informative, too bad the 2020 trucks are out of production for only God knows how long, and the existing 2020 Suoerduty's might actually become collectors items (the lowest production number for a year).
Not getting a Ford Super Duty until the Death Wobble is addressed. No one wants to talk about that. I love the F350 and F450 design and power choices but I am not buying until that is resolved. I am actually looking at the GM products now because the Ram Dually looks like crap. Everybody hating on the GM frontend, but I like it.
Just asking my wife and I are wanting to buy a fifth wheel to travel the country in would the 7.3 with the 10 speed trans and 3.73 rear end would that be good enough to tow a 17000 lb fifth wheel
@@kevincotton1453 Based on the Numbers. It would be overloaded. The max f250 could tow is with a 4x2 142" rig w/ 15,400lbs. You would have to upgrade to a 4.3 axle. Careful with your payload capacity.
I am also looking at the f250 or f350 as a truck camper. Frankly the options are a bit exhausting. Go with better MPG via the diesel? Save $10K and possibly some headaches, via the standard V8? Split the difference via the new Godzilla V8? I care about payload, mpg, fx4 off road package, and overall cost(s).
@@johndubrawski7094 Hey John, I am doing the same thing, looking to choose f250 as a truck camper. Do you mind sharing your choices for the options? thanks.
Enjoy your vids and great content. You do need a sound editor. The entire vid I was jockeying my sound control. Too loud or I can't hear. Don't take offense, constructive criticism is all.
As someone that's gone from a 6.2 to the 7.3 it's night and day. The 7.3 is soooo much more powerful plus it gets the same if not slightly better fuel mileage
Unless I was towing day in an day out, 4-6 daze a week I’d be satisfied with the new 7.3 Godzilla Engine! But for an occasional vacation towing my 5,500 lbs travel trailer the diesel is unwarranted! Not when the gas engines have so much hp an tq!
TFLnow very true I commented before seeing that part 😅. I have one on order and would love to see how it handles towing at its maximum as I’ll be towing a mini excavator. So may put airbags in it if needed. Thanks for the reply!
That would be wonderful, But I doubt 500k miles could be achieved with any substantial towing. That's where the Diesel will shine. It has a beefier block, better iron in the block, bigger bearings, etc. In addition the maximum torque and maximum horsepower of Ford's Diesel occurs at half the RPM, so there is much less scuffing and friction.
I own one. Couple times it wants to do the same shit my 2018 silverado 1500 8 speed did every once in awhile. The bang and jerk thing, hard to explain. Not very concerned though as it's under warranty.
Ford. And I'm a Ram 3500 owner. For me it's Cummins/AISIN for the I6ness for the 1 ton space and Ford or even Chevy in the 3/4 and below. Ram is okay but too Chrysler-y which is almost never a good thing. They have absolute beast interiors though. IOW I will do and have done Ford for half tons, would do either GM or Ford 3/4, and like Ram for the 1 ton (because the drivetrain isn't Ram at all when you get the HO).
Ford needs an update on the 6.2l . GMs 6.6 is much stronger and Rams 6.4 hemi is also supposed to be stronger than the Ford. I know the 7.3 is the top dog for gas but the 6.2 could be revamped/ refreshed a bit.
You know what you get when you break down that word "expert"??? Well, an "ex" is a has been, and a "spert" is a drip under pressure. So, do you really want to be an "expert"???
I couldn't be happier with my '19 F250 with a 6.2 & 6-speed. I drive the wheels off my truck and it does everything I ask of it, including towing heavy loads & plowing snow. Yesterday I filled up the gas tank with $1.18/gallon gas. It cost me $35.00 for a full tank! The motor is powerful, quiet, & very responsive. I was weighing my options between gas and diesel last fall when I bought it, after 6 months of ownership I can say without a doubt that gas was the right way to go for me. (also added bonus, I've changed my oil 3 times now and it cost me $35 for oil and filter...cheap to maintain too!)
Kirk Swanson did you have the option of getting the 48 gallon tank with the 6.2 L engine? What kind of mileage are you getting? Thanks...
@@fathertime209 the 30 gallon tank is the only one available for the short bed. I get about 400 miles on a tanks. I get 12.5-13.5 mpg. Mostly in town driving and pulling a trailer 1-2x per week.
I’ve put 37k miles on it in 11 months so it gets plenty of use.
@@flatland4x4 right on. Thanks...
How much are you towing. What is your gear ratio? Looking into the 6.2 probley max inwould tow in 9000lbs
Little-known fact: the 10-speed was developed for these trucks to improve towing. A slight mpg increase was just a bonus.
Andre is at home when he's talking about trucks he's like a kid in a candy shop. He has been growing in his role and seems more at ease on camera now. A well put together video with excellent information too. I was almost talked into becoming a truck guy. Well done Andre. Keep up the good work TFL...
Andre says: Thank you! Much appreciated.
He's paid to do it ?
Your fuel MPG gas vs Diesel needs to include the real cost difference: the additional sales tax on the $8,000 add for the diesel upgrade over the 7.3l Gas (here in WA it is 10% or $800), the nearly $0.60 higher price per gallon of diesel (based on 3/29/20 National averages) plus the cost per gallon of the diesel required DEF fluid.
Just delete the egr, dpf, def, and all of the other epa crap! No def
Ya, deleting now days is tricky......I would not advise it on a newer truck especially in a state that's outlawed it.....I mive in comi California, so deleting is off the table, plus there is extra registration fees d/t the added weight, plus the cost of maintenance and Diesel Fuel.....I am really torn between the 7.3 and purchasing another diesel.....there is a huge draw to being able to use 87 octane vs. Diesel....and I will be using this as a daily driver...........
Greg Smith hey buddy have you considered buying a used diesel? I bought a 2014 F250 6.7 powerstroke king ranch a few months ago for 31k with 113,000. I was in the same situation, I live in Arizona so it gets up to 115-120 for months during the summertime,it’s even over 100 at night,I have a f150 that can tow 9,500lbs but my concern was towing during summer,plus mountains surrounding us elevation can get up to around 7,500-8,500 ft plus the heat so I was torn between a f150,F250 (gas),and F250 diesel. I went with the diesel because in the future there will be plenty of high temp high elevation towing. I typically buy vehicles 5-6yrs old I don’t buy new,I’m only 26 but I drive my vehicles to 400-500k. First truck was my uncles 81 f100 450,000 miles on it still ran great. I can do most of the maintenance only thing I’m hating is regens I live southeast of Phoenix so ends up wanting to do regens close to the house. It’s a tough decision,I think tfl said it for like 15mpg,I don’t think it’s bad my 09 5.4 3v gets best 15mpg. It just depends if buying new. Like for me and you as well I have the 6R140 transmission if for some reason the engine took a dump I could put a 6.2 gasser in it,I could put another 6.7 powerstroke, or a Cummins swap. And the truck keeps going down the road. Their is som much you can do.so if you have 400,000 on it and don’t want to get rid of it spend a few grand and put a gasser in. That’s the way I see it buddy. You think I made a good choice and purchase???
@@brianaustin6184 I do, and you did your research! I currently own an 06 F350 with the 6.0. It has 140K miles and has been towing a 38 ft toy hauler. It has been bullet proofed. I am towing between 13 and 14k with it. For its age it does pretty good. I hear you with buying used. Every vehicle I have ever owned has been used and I have been very lucky. I was really nervous with this truck but with the custom tow tunes it gave me the ability to lock out over drive which has made HUGE differences in how it tows. I will be honest I have gotten cought up in the new HP and Torque gains with these new trucks and have been going against my better judgement with purchasing new vs used....I currently do not have to deal with Def fluid and regen. I have been kicking around the idea of just keeping the ol girl and getting the trans rebuilt and beefing it up and dropping .430's in the rear end...and I would imagine that would be a world of difference between how it tows now. I keep getting close to pulling the trigger on somthing then I look at that payment vs. the appeal of no payment and I know what I have now.......and for you I am familiar with AZ and just how nasty it gets.....judging by the temps you threw out I am guessing Tuscon, Chandler Pheonix area.....so I would have gotten a diesel in your case for sure......they tend to deal better in the heat while towing in my opinion. I have towed my trailer in 115 degree weather up and down grades and I have to blow the thing up.....I am not hammering down on her either but you know what I mean.
@@brianaustin6184 hey Brian, I hear ya! And appreciate your input. Regard the 4.30's I would not use her as a daily driver if I dropped those in. I haul once or twice a month out to AZ which is an easy pull, then I go up to Oregon and camp out on the coast. The stretch down the 5 is easy.....but hauling through the mountain range up into Oregon is hard on my truck with the trailer fully loaded. Was thinking the gearing would take some of that stress off the drive train and motor.
Ford if you are on here bring excursion back in a powerstroke
Still have my old '03 6.0L fully bulletproofed...
My 2002 7.3L Limited is still going strong.
@@Tempsho I have an '02 one ton with the 7.3L as well. I have 2 old Powerstrokes, cheaper than 1 new one I think.
Get a cap for a Superduty pickup and some bucket seats and you got a excursion
I don't see them bringing it back it was a beast and with the fuel efficiency standards they want to improve there fleet, I could see it a a trim level type thing for Superduty though
@@theprfesssor 3 rows of seats and interior space for my dogs...ya, not the same as a superduty with a cap...
Great Video! Andre covered all the details that people need to hear before making an informed decision when purchasing a Super Duty. That Diesel option is hard to beat! Power and Fuel efficiency. This video made my day. Thank You
Don't forget all the $$$$ for diesel maintenance
A guy on my street has an F250 crew cab 2wd 6.2L and pulls a mid-size 5th wheeler! All we have to worry about in south Louisiana are overpasses and bridges over the River. He’s only gone on weekend trips as I could see when passing. I don’t speak to him so I guess he’s happy having had the truck about 3 years.
Thanks to TFL truck, I’m lowkey wanting a dream truck garage now lmao. Just do whatever the heck I want, wherever and whenever.
Guys!!! LOVE the podcast. Will absolutely listen every week. You should do a Q&A type thing where listeners can call in!
Will do
@@TFLnow if you do this, please consider asking the callers a question or two back to them. I think that makes for a more engaging show for the listener.
WOW!! 1050 Ft. Lb.and 37,000 towing!! Those are Peterbilt or Kenworth day cab numbers...in a PICKUP TRUCK!! Not sure what guy needs that sort of power from a pickup but it's cool it's available. Nice video!!
Me&wifey really loves this best truck knowledge video so we both salute you guys on that thanks.
Hi TFL Studios Crew hope everyone is safe. Just this week we picked up a 2020 f350 crew cab 4×2 short bed with the 6.2 v8 and 10 speed. I must say this combination really feels great. I only have 140 miles on the truck but compared to our other 2019 6.2 with the 6 speed I feel that the 6 speed transmission hurt that engine fuel economy. Just the other day on a short trip in and out of town I saw 14 mpg with the 2020.
Thank you for the work you guys do.
What rear gear do you have in your 6.2? I bought one with the 4.30, and I am in love with the whole package.
Racerboi i have 3.73
My first car was a Ford truck. 50 years later, I'm still driving a Ford truck. Needless to say, I'm not here looking for advice, just get a kick out of the videos
WY O - We will never drive anything BUT a Ford truck! they are absolutely the BEST!
Same here, nothing can touch a Ford truck!
Love this comment.
Great in depth review with very specific test scenarios for everyone.
I have the xl with stx package and the 6.7 powerstroke, coming from an f150 with the 5.0 there is no way to compare the two, the 6.7 is a beast for towing. We bought a bigger trailer and I really wanted the powerstroke, and am 100% pleased with it. We have several 6.2 at work and I've never been that impressed with it, it gets the job done but for towing the diesel is just class leading and never runs out of torque. The diesel is expensive though, I got mine as a leftover truck for a great price, if they didn't give me the deal I got I would have never went with it.
Awesome!!! Please do this with all the brands!
I really appreciate you guys and your reviews, I knew after watching the Ike Gauntlet videos which pickups would work for me. When I finally decided to buy a pickup to supplement my 1999 Super Duty (We love that pickup and kept it) we knew we had options and started our negotiations with that in mind. We eventually landed on a 2019 F350 and with all the incentives and our company rebates we ended up getting enough off the price to more than cover the Diesel so we decided not to wait for the Godzilla. FYI, I laughed when you said you were in Las Vegas NM...This is one of many locations I travel to in our 4 state region working for my company, its fun to tell my better half "I'm off to Vegas". Stay healthy!
Soooo nice to see some Tremor content. Looking forward to more. Those numbers are impressive! Some more side by side comparisons, I hope, is on the menu!
Good stuff. There are a lot of people that can look online and configure, however, not everyone knows which configuration is good for what. Your explanation is going to help a lot of people. Besides, you're TFL and people enjoy seeing the visuals you offer. The real world views and reviews adds to the buying choices. I was not even aware the base was 33K +. That is a LOT of money in my opinion for a basic entry level. Ranchers and the likes that just need a work horse sure have to pay big bucks these days.
Not sure if you guys have done this but same hill, same weight, same truck, only difference is rear axel ratio and see how drastic the difference really is, because manufacturers will change tow capacity by a couple thousand pounds just by changing the rear axel ratio
Waiting on my 2021 F-350 King Ranch 6.7 to be built. They say they are starting production on Oct 26th but who knows with these crazy times.
It would be interesting to compare all 4 powertrains in identical body styles and gear ratios pulling identical weights
The 6.7l diesel will be a monster with a better exhaust, cold air intake, and even a mild tune...
Its already insane.
@@Blue_Flame_Raptor I like insane to the N'th degree. 6 75 seconds 0-60 is not insane.
@@richfarfugnuven6308 I'm saying its insane because on the street the truck just roasts the tires with minimal effort. It is too much torque when not hauling a load.
The way I see it if your not towing and hauling too heavy and use the truck for the weekend to take the family on road trips and sometimes use it for work and play get the 6.2/10 speed good power and efficiency, if your towing every day especially heavy or you got a hotshot lifestyle definitely the 6.7 power stroke/10 speed , and if you got dump trucks or snowplow trucks or a business that uses those specific kinds of truck’s definitely get the 7.3 V8 strong and good power but overall it’s just my opinion , but hey get whatever your heart wants
I would really like to hear an update on your 7.3 Ford F-250 after you get some miles on that motor?? Curious to see if the MPG improved after it broke in a little? Excellent review of the Super Duty
If you're concerned about mpg just buy one and upgrade its fuel tank. There's 60 gallon tanks, 70 gallon tanks. Can go 1000 miles on a single tank in these easy.
@@jordankelly4684 mpg is miles per gallons :p its not the same thing as range
I can't wait for you to test the 6.2 10 speed... I'm in the market to buy a new heavy duty truck, either a ram or f-350 and leaning towards the Ford, I have been watching your channel a lot for reviews
I hauled 2 ton in the bed of my pickup today iv put 3 and half tons befor and it's a f150 2004 heritage 10 gen was badass 4.6 hauls like a champ barley even have to hit the gas only up hills and u dont need overdrive it will get up to speed without it,... it's awesome I love my truck I can put more than a 1 ton dully in weight on my truck I can haul triple the payload it awesome I can just imagine today's when I was driveing how the turbo diesel would be like ,its probably amazing...
Lol that 12,000 to 15,000 pounds is a heavy duty truck lol that is nouthing mine has done 13,900 befor driveing 2 and half hour away like a champ weighs 4,600 pounds, and my dad hauls 20,000 a day in his EcoBoost in trash business lol I can honestly say we haul alot on ower f150s and proved they are the toughest truck ...
That scrap yard said mine was the biggest load they've ever seen on a half ton lol haha I guess I'm going to have to put heavy duty on mine lol or super f150 lol and 16 mpg isn't bad at all that's great I get that with a straight pipe and about 10,000 pounds that 350 is amazingly ecosport for commenting so much but I love comparing the work I can do . That dully 350 hauling 7,000 is really not alot you need to put like 50,000 on that and see what it does I can do what you guy are doing in my f150 lol I can haul 2 of those tractors and a bob cat ik I can ...might be squatting alot but ik I could do it I'm gonna get more leafspring and better shock soon I'm upgrading ik I could it that 6.7 to 0 to 60 is amazing mine gets like 9 second but I'm gonna make it faster now that I know this I'm starting to realize that heavy duty truck are the same as normal pick ups they just do huge load more efficiently I think that the reason they made the EcoBoost bc my dad has the same power as me but he gets better gas mileage I'm the completely opposite though built to burn fuel and shit so it all the depends on what your doing ,all trucks are great though just what do you exactly want and what your doing with it and we're you do want your money to go in the long run
You actually can’t get the 10 speed with the 6.2 in a F250. It’s only available in the F350.
They should test it. to see how the 10-speed handles.
14:31 Wow! Seeing a pickup Truck pulling a Excavator like this is so Awesome. 😯😀
I'm looking into getting at 250 or maybe a 350 for hauling a Moving / Tool trailer. I don't have a Class A license yet but want something that's ready to go if a get a trailer that over 10,000 lbs. 😊
I am torn between the 7.3 and the 6.7. Cost, as always, will be the deciding factor, when I buy, as I have seen some good deals on 2500 Ram Cummins, too.
Thanks Andre.. Lots of good information here.. Stay safe n healthy during this time
I really like the 6.2/A10 combo. I really like the 6.2 and the 10 speed just really helps with picking the right gear.
Leland Holton do you think that combo will give you the best gas mileage set up? I’m curious what the real world numbers on that combination would provide...
I wish Ford would put the Tremor package on a short box Super Cab.
Indeed, it doesn't seem like it would cost them much to add this config as a choice.
They already have a million different configurations for the trucks as it is.
I would get a dark blue f250 Tremor package with 7.3 gas.
Just got the 7.3 in Blue Jean blue on a whim. Was looking for a 3.5l 150 when the wife saw the Godzilla. Still a little sticker shocked, but the hills in Idaho are big. Looking forward to not hitting a low of 20mph like the 5.4L with the trailer.
@TFLnow @The Fast Lane Truck Would still like you to review the 6.2L with a 10-speed in the F350
“Ford is the best in Texas!” It at least in my household! We enjoy the platinum package and towing capabilities as well! Thanks TFL!
Az resident here. Looking at an F350 Dually with the 6.7. Id love an F450, but I just cant get past the commercial tires. Super singles would be a fun conversion for a 450, but very pricey. I think the 7.3L would be ok, but it gets HOT here in Phoenix. Trying to tow with gasoline up out of the Valley in the summer for vacay.. yeah I want diesel!
I would buy the F250 Super Duty crew cab.
My choice will be a f 350 xlt tremor with 7.3 Godzilla 4.30 ratio
Damn, I already bought one 3 months ago. Guess it's too late for me now. I'll just have to do with the f350 lariat 7.3 tremor with the stowable loading ramps I ordered it with...
Why can’t you order an oxford White with a black out sport package? Any ideas?? Thanks...
7.3 liter: good old pushrod engine would be my choice. I believe that 10 speed auto is a joint venture between Ford and GM so same trans should be available in HD GM trucks as well.
It is available with the duramax. Just minor differences between the Ford 10R140 and the "Allison" 10L1000
Ford's literature says the 7.3 is not compatible with E85 gas
This is a problem in that way too many gas stations only offer E85. Having to visit stations which may or may not have gasoline that's compatible with the 7.3 will be a hassle
"I set it to miles an hour, so everybody can see me."
Thanks Ford does trucks right
LOVE this summary type video.
Hey TFL, I recently saw a video, where a guy bought a brand new 2021 F-150 Limited in white. Gorgeous. However 1,000 miles into it he noticed some serious rusting of the differentiate, axle, and most of "VITAL" components of the truck. Can you do a video addressing that? I was thinking of buying one till I saw that.
Great job on the video guy’s!
Powerstroke was the the only option on the website as of a week ago on the F450
Thinking of putting rack on bed for roof rack tent. Also tow mid size trailer for bed and bathroom. I might also take truck for Costco run. Should I get f450 6.7 or wait for next gen with 2,000 pound of torque. Can’t make up my mind
Ford should be having some really good deals right now!
Excellent video!
What would you all choose for a part time travel trailer tow? 8Klbs, 29’
Wasn't that video clip of the 6.2L going up the mountain where it later grenades the fan blade, which wipes out the radiator?
I think it was before the actual test but yea
Do all new 3/4 ton trucks weigh north of 8k lbs? My old ‘02 Duramax was about 6,800 lbs and I thought that was heavy. The weight negates much of the Ford’s advantage of an incredible 475hp/and 1k of torque. I got about 18 mpg hwy in my diesel. Not much progress in 18 years. I assume most of weight is in the now fully boxed HD frame. Could they lop off 1k lbs? PS: Where is Moab video?
All the emissions BS is killing the new diesels.
My 99 F250 extended cab short bed 4x4 with the 7.3 diesel weighed 7800lbs.
When are you starting the Super Tremor build!?
6.7 turbo diesel powerstroke superduty for me.
Awesome. All trucks all the time TFL. Could be new channel name. How many TFL channels are there? 😀
They allow special orders of 6.2L gas w 10 speed in dually?
I spent hours on the configurator. You can build some awesome stuff.
TFL,
Where is the video that has the DRW with the 3.73 axel and 7.3l v8????? I have looked thru your entire video library and still have not found it. Thats my exact truck that I just ordered. Please help me find that video
I love my 2021 7.3 f250
@8:37 wasn't the Ike gauntlet run with 16,000 lbs not 7,000? Also, it would have been good to state the mileage with the weight being towed. But awesome video 👌.
Thanks for the video love your channel
My father just got the f350 with the 10 speed and the 6.2. I’m curious as to what it can tow. It’s an xl crew cab long bed 4x4. Unfortunately his 2015 6.2 blew up; probably dropped a valve. Hopefully they fixed that.
You would be surprised at the towing ability. Doesn't even feel like a cattle trailer is back there except for the cows moving around.
👍Those Ford power trains kick a**!
I see that you did an Ike Gauntlet run and a fuel economy run in blizzard conditions. Does that make the numbers worse or better than if it were run in dry conditions. I guess if you ran all the makes in crappy weather it would yield like results.
Makes it worse, without a doubt.
I don’t get or even understand what a podcast is.I can only see you on RUclips
Great review thanks
Dealerships sales departments are closed here in Vegas. So, good luck buying here.
They are open in Minnesota by appointment only
They are doing online sales now.
Seems like the 0-60 time started to early when u brake torqued???? Shouldnt the timer start when truck moves
Great content!
Nice and informative, too bad the 2020 trucks are out of production for only God knows how long, and the existing 2020 Suoerduty's might actually become collectors items (the lowest production number for a year).
when you gonna test RAM 6.4 with 8 speed towing on IKE ?
Hopefully soon.
Not getting a Ford Super Duty until the Death Wobble is addressed. No one wants to talk about that. I love the F350 and F450 design and power choices but I am not buying until that is resolved. I am actually looking at the GM products now because the Ram Dually looks like crap. Everybody hating on the GM frontend, but I like it.
Just asking my wife and I are wanting to buy a fifth wheel to travel the country in would the 7.3 with the 10 speed trans and 3.73 rear end would that be good enough to tow a 17000 lb fifth wheel
I'm sorry for a f- 250
@@kevincotton1453 Based on the Numbers. It would be overloaded. The max f250 could tow is with a 4x2 142" rig w/ 15,400lbs. You would have to upgrade to a 4.3 axle. Careful with your payload capacity.
Helpful as I’m choosing a f350 for a truckcamper
I am also looking at the f250 or f350 as a truck camper. Frankly the options are a bit exhausting. Go with better MPG via the diesel? Save $10K and possibly some headaches, via the standard V8? Split the difference via the new Godzilla V8? I care about payload, mpg, fx4 off road package, and overall cost(s).
@@johndubrawski7094 Hey John, I am doing the same thing, looking to choose f250 as a truck camper. Do you mind sharing your choices for the options? thanks.
Do you know what the fuel milage is in litres per 100 for how the Canadian trucks measure it?
Enjoy your vids and great content. You do need a sound editor. The entire vid I was jockeying my sound control. Too loud or I can't hear. Don't take offense, constructive criticism is all.
Is the 7.3 really that big of a jump from the 6.2? Ide loved to se a side by side comparison
Me as well
Judging from their Ike Gauntlet runs with the two of them, If my recollection is correct, it's a pretty big performance jump with the 7.3.
As someone that's gone from a 6.2 to the 7.3 it's night and day. The 7.3 is soooo much more powerful plus it gets the same if not slightly better fuel mileage
Unless I was towing day in an day out, 4-6 daze a week I’d be satisfied with the new 7.3 Godzilla Engine! But for an occasional vacation towing my 5,500 lbs travel trailer the diesel is unwarranted! Not when the gas engines have so much hp an tq!
Are you guys making anymore videos on your Tremor? I look daily for them but it’s Been quite awhile!
This is one😉
TFLnow very true I commented before seeing that part 😅. I have one on order and would love to see how it handles towing at its maximum as I’ll be towing a mini excavator. So may put airbags in it if needed.
Thanks for the reply!
11:55 you have an error. Which is it? 4wd or 2wd?
Sorry for the typo here...
Now I wanna see if that 7.3 gas engine get 500k miles or even 1 millions on it and how that handling
That would be wonderful, But I doubt 500k miles could be achieved with any substantial towing. That's where the Diesel will shine. It has a beefier block, better iron in the block, bigger bearings, etc. In addition the maximum torque and maximum horsepower of Ford's Diesel occurs at half the RPM, so there is much less scuffing and friction.
6.2 will do it. I think the 7.3 might be able in gen 2.
Give me that Crew cab In XL form
What is in the 608a package?
Not much mileage difference on 7.3 with 4.30 vs 3.whatever...
Which one was it that broke down and had to be put on a flatbed
6.2
To be fair it blew the radiator
have you guys heard that transmission with 10 speeds is having issues?
I own one. Couple times it wants to do the same shit my 2018 silverado 1500 8 speed did every once in awhile. The bang and jerk thing, hard to explain.
Not very concerned though as it's under warranty.
Everything Ford makes has issues
Which is better... The ram 2500 or this??
Ford
The Ford is much better!
Ford.
And I'm a Ram 3500 owner.
For me it's Cummins/AISIN for the I6ness for the 1 ton space and Ford or even Chevy in the 3/4 and below. Ram is okay but too Chrysler-y which is almost never a good thing. They have absolute beast interiors though.
IOW I will do and have done Ford for half tons, would do either GM or Ford 3/4, and like Ram for the 1 ton (because the drivetrain isn't Ram at all when you get the HO).
Now we know the 10 is trouble
The 7.3 idles at 1000 rpm?
Tremor dully?
Info I need.
Ford needs an update on the 6.2l . GMs 6.6 is much stronger and Rams 6.4 hemi is also supposed to be stronger than the Ford. I know the 7.3 is the top dog for gas but the 6.2 could be revamped/ refreshed a bit.
If ford makes ventilators, how many will be recalled? Lol
😂👍
Every. Single. One.
You know what you get when you break down that word "expert"??? Well, an "ex" is a has been, and a "spert" is a drip under pressure. So, do you really want to be an "expert"???
7 3L needs a turbo or a supercharger...
What was the fuel mileage for the 7.3L dullay with 3.73 rearend?
Like 15mpg
Wtf you can get the 6.2 with the 10speed?
Yep. In the F350 with 6.2. I have one and it is great. Pulls really nice too.
Ford, leading the way...
Why buy a heavy duty truck and not get diesel ?
Kris because people need the better payload of the heavy duty but don’t need all of the power of a diesel.
Modern Diesel is an expensive PITA whether you need it or not, so you're better off not getting it if you don't actually need it.