24:50: Chaos Gamma is a copy of Gamma that Eggman made in Sonic Battle. He's not the original Gamma. Chaos Gamma works for him, so he counts. Omega is actively trying to murder Eggman, so he doesn't count.
Tracking Sage Throughout Bowser Vs. Eggman, and Explaining Why One Billion Simulations Wasn't Enough; 1. Sage appears once Bowser has been 'defeated'. She claims that "the fight is over before it has begun," likely meaning that whatever plan she put into action (playing Infinite early, using Metal Sonic as a contingency to grab the Ruby, and unleashing Neo Metal if that failed) had succeeded. She believes the fight has already ended. 2. Fury Bowser is introduced, and his flashy introduction gives Sage time to run further scenarios. With this in mind, she suddenly flees, retreating to gague Bowser's power, and possibly, ensure Neo Metal is still in the fight. 3. Sage suddenly reappears, granting a shield for Eggman. Notably, she holds this shield even when Bowser slams down on it, meaning that she wasn't just protecting Eggman from the black spikes, but she was likely buying time for Neo Metal to transform. 4. This gambit pays off, and Super Neo Metal Sonic proceeds to body the shit out of Bowser. The empire has their win condition, and Sage her mission: protect Eggman while Neo Metal cleans up. One small problem; Chance Time could still swipe the Emeralds. 5. Thus, a solution presents itself; bait out Kamek. She launches a barrage of Badniks at Fury Bowser, a feeble attack, but one that would cause any worthwhile sorcerer to fret about their king with how many she launched. Kamek shows up and, taking the bait, blocks the assault. 6. Once more, this pays off; Super Neo Metal is more than strong enough to burst through the barricade, and eliminate Kamek. Unfortunately, one small problem becomes one BIG problem... 7. ... When Junior hits the ground. Invoking a rage in Bowser that eclipsed his previous fury. 8. Bowser consumes a Grand Star, and blasts Neo Metal. Sage has no clue what a Grand Star is capable of, and is likely convinced that Super Neo Metal could handle it... But the data lies to her, as she watches Metal not only lose his super form as it's completely overwhelmed, but be irreparably annihilated. 9. Sage's "no!" Is so telling. That was it. That was their path to victory, paved over because of one stupid mistake. A miscalculation due to a lack of data. 10. Suddenly, everything is happening all at once. Tons of new factors are introduced out of nowhere, as Bowser creates a black hole that consumes most of Eggman's fleet and weaponry. It even rips apart the Death Egg Robot. She can't run simulations and scenarios, if new factors keep showing up. And since the black hole doesn't consume everything, she can't run the data with full confidence, as she can't keep track of what she is and isn't able to factor in. And then, as Eggman makes a call, she does what she was programmed to do. 11. Sage follows orders. Why wouldn't she? The Death Egg is available, she has the Emeralds, surely a blast from orbit empowered by the seven Chaos Emeralds would be enough to win. It might destroy their army. 12. She doesn't aim at Bowser, aiming it at Bowsers army having seen his protectiveness over it to bait him into tanking the attack. 13. And he takes the bait, ending Bowser and presumably leaving his army without their king.... 14. But it doesn't, and Bowser's BONES get right back up again reanimating with magic she has no data on. 15. She escapes transmutation, but what does she even do? Where does she go from here? All their options just either got annihilated by a black hole, or turned into a goddamn cube. Her only option, as seen in the aftermath, is to wait. Bide her time so she can figure out... What the hell she even CAN do anymore. Basically; there were far too many variables that even if eggman DID have literally all possible information on bowser that accounting for all of them would be quite literally impossible, countering all of them would be impossible, they do not have the tech available to counter Bowsers army even with archie stuff, including things like the time stones which control all of time, given bowser has willed himself through time and space and kamek has magic to do the same, it'd not actually work on him, or it might for a second before bowser just uses one of his reality warping items to erase time itself and the stones for good measure, just to restore it later AFTER turning eggman into ground beef. Sonics world doesn't really have power ups in the same way bowsers does as well, plus they are infinitely more plentiful, not to mention items like the retry clock (which sets the battle back to the beginning and doesn't matter if time is erased or not) 1 up mushrooms (which are canon in mario as extra lives given that in one of the galaxy games if you are doing a luigi mission {I think it was guiding him somewhere?} and you fall into a black hole, luigi will ask if you are ok because he heard a scream) and an innumerable other options that bowser could just summon at all times, fire flowers, pow blocks, stop watch (which doesn't have to have time exist to work either it's more like a status effect that freezes literally everything in place)
24:50: Chaos Gamma is a copy of Gamma that Eggman made in Sonic Battle. He's not the original Gamma. Chaos Gamma works for him, so he counts. Omega is actively trying to murder Eggman, so he doesn't count.
@@SentaiYamaneko Thanks for the info. It's been a while since I played Battle.
-Alex
The *"GET A LOAD OF THIS!"* and *"SHOWTIME!"* were perfect 💜🎮🔥
eyy i was waiting on this reaction, i did not expect it to show up on my yt recommended tho but hey nice suprise
@@silverstone9836 Happy to hear RUclips js recommending us!
Tracking Sage Throughout Bowser Vs. Eggman, and Explaining Why One Billion Simulations Wasn't Enough;
1. Sage appears once Bowser has been 'defeated'. She claims that "the fight is over before it has begun," likely meaning that whatever plan she put into action (playing Infinite early, using Metal Sonic as a contingency to grab the Ruby, and unleashing Neo Metal if that failed) had succeeded. She believes the fight has already ended.
2. Fury Bowser is introduced, and his flashy introduction gives Sage time to run further scenarios. With this in mind, she suddenly flees, retreating to gague Bowser's power, and possibly, ensure Neo Metal is still in the fight.
3. Sage suddenly reappears, granting a shield for Eggman. Notably, she holds this shield even when Bowser slams down on it, meaning that she wasn't just protecting Eggman from the black spikes, but she was likely buying time for Neo Metal to transform.
4. This gambit pays off, and Super Neo Metal Sonic proceeds to body the shit out of Bowser. The empire has their win condition, and Sage her mission: protect Eggman while Neo Metal cleans up. One small problem; Chance Time could still swipe the Emeralds.
5. Thus, a solution presents itself; bait out Kamek. She launches a barrage of Badniks at Fury Bowser, a feeble attack, but one that would cause any worthwhile sorcerer to fret about their king with how many she launched. Kamek shows up and, taking the bait, blocks the assault.
6. Once more, this pays off; Super Neo Metal is more than strong enough to burst through the barricade, and eliminate Kamek. Unfortunately, one small problem becomes one BIG problem...
7. ... When Junior hits the ground. Invoking a rage in Bowser that eclipsed his previous fury.
8. Bowser consumes a Grand Star, and blasts Neo Metal. Sage has no clue what a Grand Star is capable of, and is likely convinced that Super Neo Metal could handle it... But the data lies to her, as she watches Metal not only lose his super form as it's completely overwhelmed, but be irreparably annihilated.
9. Sage's "no!" Is so telling. That was it. That was their path to victory, paved over because of one stupid mistake. A miscalculation due to a lack of data.
10. Suddenly, everything is happening all at once. Tons of new factors are introduced out of nowhere, as Bowser creates a black hole that consumes most of Eggman's fleet and weaponry. It even rips apart the Death Egg Robot. She can't run simulations and scenarios, if new factors keep showing up. And since the black hole doesn't consume everything, she can't run the data with full confidence, as she can't keep track of what she is and isn't able to factor in. And then, as Eggman makes a call, she does what she was programmed to do.
11. Sage follows orders. Why wouldn't she? The Death Egg is available, she has the Emeralds, surely a blast from orbit empowered by the seven Chaos Emeralds would be enough to win. It might destroy their army.
12. She doesn't aim at Bowser, aiming it at Bowsers army having seen his protectiveness over it to bait him into tanking the attack.
13. And he takes the bait, ending Bowser and presumably leaving his army without their king....
14. But it doesn't, and Bowser's BONES get right back up again reanimating with magic she has no data on.
15. She escapes transmutation, but what does she even do? Where does she go from here? All their options just either got annihilated by a black hole, or turned into a goddamn cube. Her only option, as seen in the aftermath, is to wait. Bide her time so she can figure out... What the hell she even CAN do anymore.
Basically; there were far too many variables that even if eggman DID have literally all possible information on bowser that accounting for all of them would be quite literally impossible, countering all of them would be impossible, they do not have the tech available to counter Bowsers army even with archie stuff, including things like the time stones which control all of time, given bowser has willed himself through time and space and kamek has magic to do the same, it'd not actually work on him, or it might for a second before bowser just uses one of his reality warping items to erase time itself and the stones for good measure, just to restore it later AFTER turning eggman into ground beef.
Sonics world doesn't really have power ups in the same way bowsers does as well, plus they are infinitely more plentiful, not to mention items like the retry clock (which sets the battle back to the beginning and doesn't matter if time is erased or not) 1 up mushrooms (which are canon in mario as extra lives given that in one of the galaxy games if you are doing a luigi mission {I think it was guiding him somewhere?} and you fall into a black hole, luigi will ask if you are ok because he heard a scream) and an innumerable other options that bowser could just summon at all times, fire flowers, pow blocks, stop watch (which doesn't have to have time exist to work either it's more like a status effect that freezes literally everything in place)
Inverse version of Revolver Ocelot 😭😭
Bowser vs Eggman is my new favorite by far.
Good vid tho disagree with idw hate I’m afraid.🤷♂️