AG Demands Body Camera Footage from Botched ATF Raid!
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In this video, we discuss the botched ATF raid that resulted in the death of an AK man, and the convenient lack of body cam footage of the incident. Here's the whole article from Ammoland: www.ammoland.com/2024/04/arka...
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The fact that the ATF considers US citizens as "the enemy" is disturbing.
but no longer surprising.
To MOST leo’s it’s them against us.
doing 'policing' like SF fought isis and the taliban during the gwot.
Just be glad they don’t yet consider us canines.
seems to be the other way around
“Botched”…? No camera, no witnesses, no live suspect. Looks like they were completely successful…
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Came here to say this.
No camera is normal for Fed LE, they do not even audio record. So no, that by itself is not evidence of conspiracy.
Not defending the Feds, just saying that no recordings is not a "one off."
Food for thought. Just saying.
Again, it's just conjecture but that's all IV8888 is doing too...
So, you're a tac guy looking to serve a warrant. You have intel that he travels armed and evidence strongly suggests he's always armed.
So one tactical dude says "take him at work" all businesslike.
Then another dude says "yeah, then what if he takes hostages and or we have a shootout in a crowded building?"
Oh, tactical team says, "maybe not a good idea."
Next dude says, "let's take him on a casual traffic stop."
Then next dude says, "what if he doesn't stop? Then we have a pursuit of a probable armed suspect on public roads during rush hour."
Oh, then tactical team says "not a great idea either."
Then another dude says "let's just serve the search warrant on his house while he's at work and take him later at a safe time and place."
Then another dude says "he has a security system and will know the moment we show up even if he's not there...back to armed suspect in a workplace."
These kind of discussions happen when we plan missions. The idea is that if one of these ends in a shootout, it's a failed mission. Every time.
So...I wasn't there in the meetings or planning and I don't know how they made the decision.
Neither do you or Idiot V8888.
No, complete investigative results of an OIS (officer involved shooting) usually take several weeks to complete...I know because OIS investigation was my job.
So. Not defending Fed LE, I don't like the way they operate, but making up conspiracy theories for clicks is typical Guntuber IdiotV8888.
Ohh the OIS oink is defending the atf and shitting on Eric. Im so surprised. Lets trust him guys.
Rules for The, not for Me.
If they continue to withhold ALL of the video evidence, the Arkansas AG should order a state homicide investigation and charge every agent involved with evidence tampering for starters.
Dream on, the last thing any AG or DA would want to do is alienate the police unions which finance their election campaigns. Federal task Force work brings in very good money for state and local LEOs. Lawyers are not going to save us from a rogue and hostile federal government
Unfortunately, as the ATF is a Federal law enforcement agency, they are not subject to state laws due to the separation and hierarchy of power between the federal and state governments. The federal government and its agency would have to agree to go to a lower court to face state charges. They have complete immunity.
@@esfowle understood. However, I wonder if they would lose their qualified immunity because of individual actions that could be separated from their official duties as federal agents? If their official duties are in conflict with state law, I can agree with that legal argument. My point is that once, they commit state crimes even while being employed and working in the capacity of federal law-enforcement, they may jeopardize that privilege.
Why not show up at his place of employment? Because they wanted him deleted.
They had a search warrant, not an arrest warrant. What is stupid is doing predawn no knock warrant instead of daylight. No knock warrants are inherently dangerous and should only be used for the most heinous situations.
You’re telling me the ATF “messed” up again and is refusing accountability!? Color me surprised
Edit: Comments were right, and I have edited my original comment to reflect the truth of the matter. Quotations have been added
😮 death warrants abounding again and again. . .being deployed by whom for what. If I sell a grande to the ATF what would they do. . . Wouldn't be a death warrant. Water has a lot of force it gets into the cracks splits rocks as the first line changes as the years pass. We only get a blink of history in our short life. . . It gets slipperyer.
They didn’t mess up. All went according to the plan…
It went to plan. No body cams and, of course, no accountability.
He was not killed he was murdered in front of his family who was at home big difference between killed and murdered
When they put tape over the camera that says they were there for murder. NO KNOCK WARRANTS ARE MURDER WARRANTS!
Should be felonious destruction of evidence.
Agreed 💯
But it was NOT a no-knock search warrant!
@@dragonhealer7588 yes it was
The warrant did not support no-knock, but it was exercized as such. To my mind that basic felony elevates the event to murder 1 even if it wasn't intended as an execution.
atf needs to be held accountable for the ILLEGAL RAID & especially for only targeting GUNS & NEVER even mentions ALCOHOL & TOBACCO!!!
Under this corrupt administration, they will never be held accountable.
Don't worry, they won't be.
@@LackLusterMedia the Arkansas AG has just announced he's filing a lawsuit against the ATF. Maybe they will finally get nailed this time.
@richb.4374 the lawsuit is challenging a rule. They won't be held accountable for the whole murder thing.
@@LackLusterMedia Of course not, they never are.
They could have waited until he left the house. He's an exec at an airport. Once he's out, detain him and serve the warrant. What was the need to raid the house? He's going to flush the guns down the toilet?
Agreed! Or even Knock on the door, and hand them the warrant, and detain them in a cop car for house inspection... This was murder. It's not the first time. No-Knock Warrants are just not needed for most situations.
Great point. This wasn't a drug raid. No evidence would be lost.
You mean like they failed to do with Randy Weaver and David Koresh? It's almost like there's a pattern here
@cyrusfreeman9972 You mean Weavers, dog, son and wife.
@@MrNikkoz kind of. They wanted to "talk to" Randy. They ended up killing a good chunk of what he loved in this world, people… And animals… That did not deserve to die. All they had to do was go after Randy when he went to town… They had plenty of chances. But they wanted a show, they wanted to be able to shoot people, they wanted to kill and destroy. It's not a scrap of good left in that agency if there ever was one to begin with
This is how murders with badges operate, being the enforcement arm of a tyrannous government!
There are generally three types of law enforcement: Good people who are good at the job, good people who are bad at the job and criminals with a badge.
That said, the culture is such that good people who are good at the job are afraid to call out the other two kinds because they would most certainly be retaliated against.
This ATF raid wasn’t Botched or Failed, it accomplished exactly what they wanted. Citizens intimidation is the key goal. What they don’t understand is how much actions like this angers some of us that only wish for the government to leave us alone freely to enjoy our freedoms.
*privileges
Rights given by god!!
@@Williamswartz the Bill of Rights are NOT privileges. The Constitution is for the people not the government. It limits the government not the people. I don’t understand how ignorant people can even support their rights being violated every day for a fantasy of security. I feel both major parties are bad and with the one party that absolutely hates the fact that we the people have rights. I will never vote for any democrat ever for what they have proven themselves to be. The second amendment is the right that protects all other rights and freedoms.
@@anthonybrown2426 you see them as freedoms the government sees them as privileges
Violence intended to induce fear in population to further political goals is the very definition of terrorism. Terrorism under color of authority absolutely should be handled with capital punishment. Question is how high we go in prosecuting this crime - does it stop with Dettlebach or do we off his boss as well?
These governmental acts certainly justify American recreation of the French Revolution.
May they be held accountable, I won't hold my breath.
They won't be held accountable and they knew they could do this with impunity, no fear of being prosecuted for a crime. Remember Fast and Furious.
I’m surprised they didn’t delete the wife like they did at Ruby Ridge. Kudos.
"...defending himself and his wife from armed home intruders."
That's exactly what the ATF was.
ATF Operation Coverup is in full swing. How did we get to the point where the ATF is passing laws?
Not only passing laws, but serving as judge, jury AND EXECUTIONER to boot!
I started by electing a criminal as president .
What?!?!? What's he gunna do? Flush the guns down the toilet???
It wasn't even an arrest warrant! And it wasn't signed as a no-knock warrant!!!
Outright MURDER!
Sounds more like a hit than a legit raid
No 3 letter agency will ever be held accountability
Treating normal American citizens as tactically dangerous opponents shows what kind of tyranny we live in.
Why would they cover the Ring camera? No good reason. They are going in anyway. The ATF thinks they own our guns and can tell us what to do with them. My gun did not come from the ATF and I owned it before they were born.
The ring camera covering i understand. Even tho i hate the ATF. Tactically speaking covering the ring camera is a good option to give the opposition one less area to see you from especially if it’s a barricaded suspect. Also how many people are encroaching. Again i do not agree with the ATF at all. They should be abolished. They have no merit under the constitution to enact all the crap laws that they do. Really we need to abolish all agencies infringing on our constitutional god given rights.
Its always fishy when people are covering cameras. However if youre expecting a fight denying the opposing sides information on your positions and numbers is a smart move. The question is why were they expecting a fight?
It belongs to them if you let them take it . Remember what Charleston Heston said .
@@msheezzy If law enforcement is covering your camera in order to serve a search warrant... This was premeditated murder.
Criminals , rogues, and disobedient to their oaths. Period !
Time to arrest all agents involved. Manslaughter charges. If I were Sheriff. It would be done.
1st Degree Murder charges, as this was PREMEDITATED!
The ATF is out of control. This raid reminds me of stuff I have read about the government of Germany in the 1940s.
Note, always hide your cameras and have them load to a hidden or off site protected server.
Local news has reported that they did not wear bodycams per a statement from the family's lawyer. Sounds smells and looks like a coverup.
this is obviously premeditated MURDER.
After what the atf and jannet reno pulled off in Waco, and faced not repercussions, is this really surprising?
Don't forget rubi rdge..
My only contention is with the title referring to it as a "botched" raid. They botched nothing; the raid accomplished exactly what was intended, and that is a much bigger problem!!!
Is anyone really surprised? This is typical ATF operations. Maybe these gestapo officers thought there were dogs inside
last word from them was that there is "no cam footage"
The silence of the ATF is telling !
no body cam footage no job no retirement for anyone connected
They should release the body cam footage for transparency.
Glad you cover these topics!
There was no reason they couldn't have walked up to him as he was leaving for work and detained him as they served the warrant. He had no record and this is a classic case of the rogue agency just wanting to play with their cool toys! No knock warrants should be the exception and not the rule!
ATF looks dirty and isn't making much effort to change that. Have cameras that upload to the internet or remote location and have more than one.
This reminds me of 1930's Germany.
Well, gee, golly wow!!! The ALPHABET GESTAPO gives their EINSATZGRUPPEN a whole TWO WEEKS of training!!!! What could possibly go wrong!!
Making those teachers in Tennessee more trained, I know.
Federal agents should be required to make it very clear who is at the door and give citizens the opportunity to communicate with them to make it very clear that they have a warrant and can enter. Give the citizen a chance to cooperate. It should be unlawful to put agents and citizens at risk by making homeowner think he is being robbed at gun point .
Listing ATF's "greatest hits" seems to go against youtube's policy. You are not allowed to hold the government accountable in the digital public square, then you can't hold them accountable anywhere.
Gotta get more creative
From an operational stand point yeah i can get taping over the ring doorbell cam. But in practicality since this shouldnt have been a raid in the first place, it just seems to make this so much more sinister and personal.
Whats that saying law enforcement always likes to use...Nothing to hide nothing to fear...
There's no reason government should be pulling raids.
They can't wait till the target comes out in public.
Furthermore, the word " felon" is nowhere in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights and just because you have previous experiences with government doesn't mean your opinions don't count towards bettering the future our democracy way of life In America.
they could have got him on a traffic stop kicking doors in is the most dangerous way to arrest someone.
"Operationally" they should've announced themselves. They shouldn't need to cover the ring camera
Going to call bull on covering the door bell camera… unless you have a hostile suspect that’s armed and dug in and YOU KNOW THIS PRIOR TO GOING IN. Bull crap
Are we really expecting an evil agency like them to do whats right?
We all know what happened, there's a reason why they aren't releasing the footage.
Thanks, Eric 👍
Thank you for putting it out, There. and thank you for your service.
You're a true Patriot. And I have the upmost respect for you. And from what I see, Congress is allowing these things to happen.
Covering the ring camera is a violation of the first amendment by prior restraint. And possibly a 4th amendment violation
Good point... Possibly 1st too?
Seems to me the AG could subpoena every agent involved that day to come in for questioning.
Any reluctance by the ATF to comply would speak volumes.
Don't subpeona, ARREST. Using a no knock warrant, just like they enjoy doing. No body cams either... so if anything goes wrong- Oh, whoopsy?!
Common sense/ human nature within this administration tells me this was a unaliving plot
I heard DOJ gave them permission to not wear them. So there probably isn't any footage.
How then can they laugh and deride after the fact? There most definitely IS footage. Those that ordered it will want to gloat with their buddies and supporters. And they will be using it soon enough for training purposes as well.
it's concerning to see incidents like this where mistakes lead to tragic outcomes. Body camera footage could provide crucial insight into what happened and help prevent similar incidents in the future.
It time for AG's to start pressing charges
Good luck. Never gonna happen. It got lost or never existed in first place. No one outside the raid party will ever get a square truthful answer
Criminal activity
dood worked at a school.... and they didnt arrest him there??? they did it in the middle of the night while he sleeping?????? that's the only red flag I need fr fr.... the atf must be held accountable.
And before they came into his house I saw a video of his house camera where they put tape over it so he couldn't see who was coming in. That's murder. Home invasion
Ruby Ridge, Waco, Arkansas, the ATF's body count is adding up.
I had.
Seen on a newscast where he had met with a senator or senators the day before the incident.
They all should lose their immunity. Family should sue for major money.
We will be divided digital money is coming faster than you think.
Glad the state is looking into it.
Great video brother
Thanks Eric.
The ATF policy doesn't require them to wear body cameras, that is the problem. They weren't wearing any because it would come back on them. This way they can just say they were following policy and they didn't have body cameras on. There is no justifiable reason that law enforcement should be using no-knock raids, it's a bad idea tactically when you are trying to arrest someone and/or collect evidence. The safe thing would to pull him over a quarter mile from home then take him back in custody to the home and search it.
Thank you. You might’ve sketched an outline before; but, you speak in front of the camera from your heart. Thank you. Agree with all the common sense you spoke here
Spot on sir.
Great video. Thank you.
Thanks buddy
ATF has never botched anything.
Not even this event or Waco or ruby ridge.
No need to Google either two of those
AG Demands Body Camera Footage from Botched ATF Raid ???????????????????????????????????????????????????
Yes they have been demanding answers since it happened months ago and still aren't getting any. They aren't going to give any.
Why not just arrest him at work? That is the only question that matters.
Seems like they dont want people to watch this? Youve got 2.7 million subs and 10000 views. Keep it up! Love you guys.
This has happened several times around the country ! 73 year old on a cane in Utah ! Someone needs to look into this !
Atf makes every day folks feel threatened.
Sad situation.
That was the whole purpose of this event from the beginning. To make US all afraid.
If you look at the door bell footage you can see what appears to be body cams on the 2 lead agents.
Crazy how easily this could be a hit
Thank God! I knew when this went down it was some messed up stuff. Happened about 15 minutes from me!
From the ATF'S pov was it a botched raid?
Veterans Unite! They have the badge but we have the power!
I heard from another video a few weeks ago that ATF wasn't wearing any body cams. Allegedly because they either didn't have time for it or because their rules allowed them to not wear them.
Agreed!
Never going to happen.
Not only that, he should arrest all of those involved.
Having done some playing with Body cams, I am not sure they provide much in the way of usable footage in a dark environment. Yes, some do have tiny IR LEDs, but they are not flood lights and the ones I have used under dark conditions acutaly are of very little value for events more than 3 feet in front of the camera. Even adding more Gamma to the resulting image usually does not greatly extend the range of their effectiveness. So how dark it was in the hosue at the moment of confrontation can be important regarding what the camea shows. Someone may also have had a weapons cam and if we are talking about a camera inside a thermal scope, those may be more useful, but only if someone asks for any weapons cam footage too.
Having been involved in shootings as a FLEO and also executed or assisted in a few State and Federal Search Warrants I know that all usage of deadly force by a FLEO regardless of any local or state investigation is also routinely investigated by the FBI, and if the head of an agency (or other person of importance) so requests is also subject to an investigation by the DoJ's Civil Rights Division. Civil Rights Division investigations sometimes result in findings totally contrary to the other investigations. This incident is troubling. The ATF team had no arrest warrant, if there had been an indictment or True Bill, it's existence has not yet been publicly revealed, Subject was not known to be a felon and was a gainfully employed family man. There were some strategic and tactical critical decisions made before and during the execution of the Search Warrant which seem to be not wisely chosen and those events may result in results the participants might not enjoy.
Not yet discussed in any video I have seen is the Search Warrant Affidavit that requested a 'no knock' during hours of darkness (or between 10PM and 6AM) Search Warrant. As every non-prohibited person has a right to self defense, the mere probability that a home dweller lawfully has a firearm is not usually grounds all by itself to receive and execute a potentially very violent 'no knock' warrant during hours of darkness on a residence. When it is done it usually involves to prevent the destruction of exigence (i.e., flush drugs down a toilet or ignite betting slips written on flash paper, etc.) or a history of known violence and a reasonable expectation of armed resistance based on a past history. I am very curious to read what it was in the Search Warrant Affidavit that justified a 'no knock' entry. I also think someone higher than any of us should be asking the Magistrate or Judge who signed the Search Warrant what he or she was told that justified in their mind such an approval for the raid.
The agents should face criminal charges for sure. Not just for this, but for many others including Ruby Ridge and WACO.
If you have a warrant, there is no need for this type of “gun violence “ , especially in a case like this, dealing with an outstanding member of society!
What happened to Chad? Is he not part of this channel anymore?
Cutting someone’s cameras should be an automatic felony assault
The least they can do is go through Congress period.
If I were the AG, I would send state police to the ATF branch office in the state and arrest all ppl in the building who are employed by the ATF.
There was no reason to kick the guy's door in during the wee hours of the morning. They could have had local LE contact/detain him at work while AFT served the search warrant at his house, there was no exigency to the case - AFT CREATED the exigency with their over-the-top overreaction to a low grade felony. That is why this man is dead.
Nothing changes...
This behavior is par for the course.
No one in congress will do anything about the ATF -- ever. You cannot get into congress if you want to do anything about the ATF (or any other 3 letter agency for that matter), as evidenced by the 2A community's continued criticism of the ATF and essentially nothing being done about it by any federal official, elected or not, REGARDLESS OF PARTY for the last several decades.
Frankly, it's silly to think that anyone in the federal government would do anything about the ATF at this point no matter how you vote, lobby, or apply any sort of political pressure (political being the key word here). This is childish idealism devoid of anything resembling reality.
Yeah, we have a second amendment so we can change that. . .
Why haven’t they passed a law stating that if body camera footage is modified, lost or deleted that the owning officer and his supervisors will serve 5 to 10 years in prison for tampering with evidence.
"Shall Not Be Infringed"...means there should have never been a government agency with the words Firearms or Explosives in its title
I had read somewhere. Where the AG was backing off on that after he had got a call. I had heard were AFT were not wearing BC that day.