My Dad always said to me, “if you can’t get the horse do what you want them to do, whatever you do don’t let them do what they want”. Watching from the state of Washington. Find your teaching so interesting, just like watching you work. My horse and I are part of the Century Club, 81 year old rider on a 28 year old horse, together for 24 years.
Joan your dad was a wise man and you're an inspiration! I'm 58 and hope to be riding the rest of my life. I lost my 30 year old about 2 years ago that I'd had for 28 years. Miss him every day. ❤
Participated in a Chris Cox clinic a few years ago. Let me preface this with “every” horse was supposed to be able to walk, trot, and canter on a loose rein. Chris rode a couple horses and helped others on the ground. There was a woman there that had an ole soured horse that really did not want to move. (Chris had had recent back surgery.) A woman in the audience yelled out “why don’t you help with the chestnut gelding”. Almost everyone told Chris not to ride him because he had bucked 2 people off already. This horse knew all the tricks(buck, stop, turn, putting his head down). The lady in the audience kept heckling. Chris got on and lasted less than 5 minutes. It is very hard to change a bad attitude on a horse with learned bad behaviors. Sorry for the long comment.
I appreciate your working with a Haflinger mare. I own one. All of this is VERY familiar LOL. You’ve helped me via email with her a LOT, and this video goes into even more depth with sound advice for sure. She’s improved tremendously! Very grateful for all your videos.
Many moons ago, I bought a Halflinger mare for my da7ghters first 4H project. She was only green broke.....the rest was up to me.......I did ALOT of reading and studying. She was a gr-rr-reat little horse.......she liked me and would follow me around like a dog. She was sure footed and strong and lovely. Very different attitude from what I see from the one in this video.
@@melblacke5726 they sure are versatile! I have little boys that live at the house with my barn, and she will cart them around all day long and not put a hoof wrong! She’s the best horse I’ve ever had. She tests me because she’s so smart, and makes me learn. Never anything scary. Love her to the moon and back! ☺️
I've seen this attitude from many broodmares, brought in from the field. Familiar with Arabians, Saddlebreds & Morgan's. I'm in Missouri. Love what you do Tim.
Figuring out where issues the are in behavior is tantamount to being able to successfully train any horse. Behavior noticed in the very beginning, from the ground is essential. Cupcake reminds me so much of a horse owned by a young girl who came to me for help. He would just walk off with her....and she would just grab the saddle horn and be a passenger. His ground manners were obnoxious. Cupcake has potential but is so very green in her mind! I hope she finally discovers that being ridden, washed, rinsed, fed, etc, all make for a day to look forward to! The young gal I helped ended up with a horse that was fun to ride and enjoyed being ridden! Glad you are so good at seeing behavior from the beginning and carry thru that philosophy in to training under saddle! Hope her owners are able to ride her a bit while she is in training before they take her home.
Watching from California. She reminds me of a half Haflinger mare we used to have. She was very independent and lots of no's but was never mean or scary to ride. Love watching your videos
I´m watching you from Europe (Hungary ) . Your videos so helpful for me. I starting a 15 year old mare again after 5 years without riding. Really thankful for sharing your knowledge with us. 🥰
Thank you for showing how to fix the rooting problem. My horse is very similar to this one. His mind set is similar to the one you're riding. When I rode him every day for months, he was better. Then we went riding once a week and he reverted back to his unwillingness to do what I asked.
Watching from North West England in the UK, you are fascinating to watch - so knowledgable and I think, extremely fair. I'm a fan of watching your videos 👌🏻👏🏻
Great video. Just watched the replay. A lot of really good topics were covered. Enjoyed the rooting explanation and how to correct it. Also the"you don't know what you don't know" is so true. We have had horses for 10 years and we still consider ourselves 1st time owners. Each one is so different and unique (quirky). What works for one will not necessarily work for the other. We learn something new from them every day and hopefully they learn from us to.
I’ve owned horses for 35 years, but I always bought horses that were already trained and pretty solid broke not fancy broke or anything, but had manners and knew how to listen. Recently in the past 10 years or so there’s been a huge shortage of such horses so you have these horses that are well past 10 years old and still green. I had no idea how little I knew about Horsemanship until I got green horses, holy cow! I’m still learning!
I'm in Wisconsin, a Minnesota girl all my life but wanted my horses at home with me so moved a year and a half ago. I have a 19 year old mare, a 6 year old Friesian Gypsy gelding and a coming 3 year old who's a Gypsy Shire! So at 63 lve got my hands full! But lm happy as heck!
Yes, lm taking my time tho and they're pretty quick to learn. The baby is over 16 hands already!? so it's a bit intimidating at times cuz she's 2...and huge but she's pretty sweet. Again lm in no hurry. I'm also not too stubborn or dumb to ask for help when l need it! 😁
Finally watching from my home in NC. for the past 8 weeks, I was traveling in Europe and had to figure out the 6 hour time distance to be able to watch. Never did watch live, so glad it was recorded.
She has a nice rolling walk though… I’m in Tucson. Haven’t got a horse now, putting my kid through college and getting ready to move back to Italy in a couple years once my husband retires (he’s Italian). I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to own a horse again, but I’ll always be a lifelong student of the horse.
From Nova Scotia Canada, no questions yet but I have learned alot watching you and after buying my first QH two weeks ago I look forward to working with her under your video guidance.
I showed my elderly friends ponies for her at a fair in halter classes several times. There were Shetland, Welsh and Haflingers. After two years I refused to show the Haflingers. I was always very comfortable with the others but the Haflingers made it clear to me they did not want to do what I was asking them to do and always did it begrudgingly. So they didn't show well and made me frustrated. Another person showed them for her the next couple of years and I was happy not to have to deal with them.
Thanks Tim for talking about the different needs of different horses. Many of the internet trainers tout one method working for every horse. While I agree with that for the most part, you're showing everyone the whys of what's important when with a particular horse and what will solve itself. Great example you demonstrated is being harder on cupcake for not standing at mounting block, where others you just move the block.
Saskatchewan, Canada. My horse also can run off at a walk. He also moves away from the mounting block. I'm working on that and he gets better every time I check him from moving away.
Excellent video, lots of learning. Great explanation of the symptom and the cause of a problem. And why we treat the cause, not the symptom. Watching from Mallorca while on holiday 😊😎
I'm watching from Ajijic, Jalisco, Mexico ... Glad to have found your channel several months ago ... I've learned many helpful things by watching you train ... I have a Rocky Mountain gaited horse, and a little mixed breed Mexican horse ... really appreciate your patience and how you explain everything you're doing & feeling ... must be very difficult to provide commentary during these sessions.
I love your way at looking at things, makes petfect sense to me and it will work with all animals. I use a similar method with my rescued German Shepherd who use to throw himself on the ground in a tantrum (hope a horse won't do that 😂) He has been my most difficult dog and usual training didn't work - so I adapted to fit him. Everytime he didn't do what I asked, I found other ways till he understood. He's been the hardest dog ever, but the most rewarding. We're from Scotland 🏴
South Central KY. I let mine go to the corner they want to go to and then I will do some little figure eights and then move back out of the corner. I like that you just move her through the corner.
I just got my first horse after 12 yrs of not riding because of my health, she a haflinger 17 yrs k , I’m in a wheelchair but have rode quarter horses all my life, she does the same thing wants to go where she wants, I don’t let her get away with it, I make her go the other way, my problem isn’t to my balance and strengthen my legs get better. She doesn’t really feel my cues like my other horses who were used to it., with circles and 8’s help? wants to plow rein , is this a common thing with Haflingers that they just want to boss their way through stuff thank you for your time. I enjoyed watching your video.
I agree with you Tim there is a difference between a horse making a mistake vs a horse that just says “no” and doesn’t care if they please you or not. Typically I find the “no” horses are very independent and unless you can impact them in some way they won’t try for you.
Watching from Missouri. I have a 4 year old mare, just under saddle. Currently riding in a bosal; I plan to put her in a snaffle soon. She is gaited and has a pretty strong walk, but is usually trying to speed that walk into a trot when riding in the field. I bring her back down with reins and voice. Often I’ll stop her and make her stand for a few minutes, then cue her to walk off. Sometimes works, but it doesn’t take more than a few strides and you can feel her energy building towards a trot. She doesn’t get ugly, just wants to rush. Also, she doesn’t like walking on soggy or wet ground and will root her nose out and away, trying to find a way around the wet or trying to take a different route altogether, required me to apply some real muscle to redirect her. I know she’s just testing me to see what she can get away with. She also tries to choose her path when walking down the lane, preferring the grass. I redirect her to the path, but at the same time half wonder if the grass is just more comfortable. I don’t ride with spurs because, after years of not riding due to my older mare being retired, my seat and legs aren’t what they need to be and I don’t want to accidentally gig her with a spur until my seat is better.
The grass is more comfortable. I would always let my horse choose that path. If it’s more comfortable I definitely pick my battles. But I have the same problem with water and I need to be a lot more firm. I have allowed my horse to get his way way too long.
I'm watching from top end of the Sacramento Valley in California close to Oregon. I enjoy watching you work some of these horses that have different problems. We have 5 old retired mares from when we were younger and bred QH and Paints. They are all 25 to 30+ and born here, and one mule to guard them (that is out of my Peruvian mare and by UCDavis' Action Jackson). (That mule will take a dog out of that pasture 100 miles an hour. Even one of our own dogs.)
Idaho This horse has a fantastic walk. I just sold one with an uncooperative attirude. Not mean, not dangerous but would rather argue about anything and everything. Im hoping her new owner has a good relationship with her. For me, i have to know the horse is trying. Some try for you, some waste their try on evasions. Cute little mare i wont miss.
Lander Wy..working a 2 year old Morgan colt..( I raised)..and a 2 year old Connemara pony..( received at 9 months..both very different both going great, walk, trot. Not daily..no buck.
@@justme-on7bn Actually it is her choice to be like this regardless of why. If her attitude does not change whe will become dangerous and frankly those are the horses that end up getting dumped in an auction. Nowhere did I "blame" the horse, it is the truth. Most trainers would not be this patient with her she would be taken behind the barn and get the crap kicked out of her. These people are giving her a chance. I do not understand why you felt the need to comment. I don't think the horse is having deep conversations, she has learned if she is a PITA people leave her alone and it will escalate if not stopped. I would rather ride a willing horse with a thinle of talent than a sulky horse that wants to do nothing. Too many good horses out there to deal with a horse like this so yes she is very VERY lucky.
My Dad always said to me, “if you can’t get the horse do what you want them to do, whatever you do don’t let them do what they want”. Watching from the state of Washington. Find your teaching so interesting, just like watching you work. My horse and I are part of the Century Club, 81 year old rider on a 28 year old horse, together for 24 years.
I love that!!❤
Joan your dad was a wise man and you're an inspiration! I'm 58 and hope to be riding the rest of my life. I lost my 30 year old about 2 years ago that I'd had for 28 years. Miss him every day. ❤
That's incredible! ❤
Participated in a Chris Cox clinic a few years ago. Let me preface this with “every” horse was supposed to be able to walk, trot, and canter on a loose rein. Chris rode a couple horses and helped others on the ground. There was a woman there that had an ole soured horse that really did not want to move. (Chris had had recent back surgery.) A woman in the audience yelled out “why don’t you help with the chestnut gelding”. Almost everyone told Chris not to ride him because he had bucked 2 people off already. This horse knew all the tricks(buck, stop, turn, putting his head down). The lady in the audience kept heckling. Chris got on and lasted less than 5 minutes. It is very hard to change a bad attitude on a horse with learned bad behaviors. Sorry for the long comment.
Hope he didn’t get hurt
Cupcake is becoming" sweeter" with your work Tim!
72 year old fan from Australia. You supply the horses in my life now thanks.
I appreciate your working with a Haflinger mare. I own one. All of this is VERY familiar LOL. You’ve helped me via email with her a LOT, and this video goes into even more depth with sound advice for sure. She’s improved tremendously! Very grateful for all your videos.
Many moons ago, I bought a Halflinger mare for my da7ghters first 4H project. She was only green broke.....the rest was up to me.......I did ALOT of reading and studying. She was a gr-rr-reat little horse.......she liked me and would follow me around like a dog. She was sure footed and strong and lovely. Very different attitude from what I see from the one in this video.
@@melblacke5726you were lucky. Halfies can be very sweet and personable, but I've found most to be pretty stubborn types.
@@melblacke5726 they sure are versatile! I have little boys that live at the house with my barn, and she will cart them around all day long and not put a hoof wrong! She’s the best horse I’ve ever had. She tests me because she’s so smart, and makes me learn. Never anything scary. Love her to the moon and back! ☺️
I've seen this attitude from many broodmares, brought in from the field. Familiar with Arabians, Saddlebreds & Morgan's. I'm in Missouri. Love what you do Tim.
Figuring out where issues the are in behavior is tantamount to being able to successfully train any horse. Behavior noticed in the very beginning, from the ground is essential. Cupcake reminds me so much of a horse owned by a young girl who came to me for help. He would just walk off with her....and she would just grab the saddle horn and be a passenger. His ground manners were obnoxious. Cupcake has potential but is so very green in her mind! I hope she finally discovers that being ridden, washed, rinsed, fed, etc, all make for a day to look forward to! The young gal I helped ended up with a horse that was fun to ride and enjoyed being ridden! Glad you are so good at seeing behavior from the beginning and carry thru that philosophy in to training under saddle! Hope her owners are able to ride her a bit while she is in training before they take her home.
Watching from California. She reminds me of a half Haflinger mare we used to have. She was very independent and lots of no's but was never mean or scary to ride. Love watching your videos
My haflinger does the same thing and when we’re on trail she slows to a crawl because she doesn’t want to go
I liked your comment about the positive reinforcement. Thanks for bringing it up.
Watching from Bowie, TX. Currently horseless, but never want to stop learning.
Watching from Tennesse. Love "Running way at a walk', wish I had come up with that.
I'm in East Tennessee
Watching from Calhoun, Louisiana-i always enjoy learning from your videos! Thank you!
I´m watching you from Europe (Hungary ) . Your videos so helpful for me. I starting a 15 year old mare again after 5 years without riding. Really thankful for sharing your knowledge with us. 🥰
Listening from Southeastern South Dakota.
My grandson are going to have a difficult adulthood using that analogies and I totally agree with you.
Watching from NC. Thanks for your videos!
Thank you for showing how to fix the rooting problem. My horse is very similar to this one. His mind set is similar to the one you're riding. When I rode him every day for months, he was better. Then we went riding once a week and he reverted back to his unwillingness to do what I asked.
Vancouver, WA - I love watching and learning from your videos. Thank you for sharing your expertise.
Smaller horses usually have smaller riders.....often children who are newer riders. so they really need to be willing and competent.
Watching from North West England in the UK, you are fascinating to watch - so knowledgable and I think, extremely fair. I'm a fan of watching your videos 👌🏻👏🏻
I'm from Wisconsin. And my mare had ulcers and would buck before I figured out that was what her problem was. She was in pain. Now she's better.
Watching from Pennington Tx. Your seeking advice about horse training/leadership is golden. Finding good advice is the problem. You,Tim, are golden!
Watching from Hahira,Georgia
Love your teaching style.
From Florida-thankyou for sharing your training techniques-they are really helpful !
Great video. Just watched the replay. A lot of really good topics were covered. Enjoyed the rooting explanation and how to correct it. Also the"you don't know what you don't know" is so true. We have had horses for 10 years and we still consider ourselves 1st time owners. Each one is so different and unique (quirky). What works for one will not necessarily work for the other. We learn something new from them every day and hopefully they learn from us to.
I’ve owned horses for 35 years, but I always bought horses that were already trained and pretty solid broke not fancy broke or anything, but had manners and knew how to listen. Recently in the past 10 years or so there’s been a huge shortage of such horses so you have these horses that are well past 10 years old and still green. I had no idea how little I knew about Horsemanship until I got green horses, holy cow! I’m still learning!
Watching and learning from Scottsdale AZ.
I'm in Wisconsin, a Minnesota girl all my life but wanted my horses at home with me so moved a year and a half ago. I have a 19 year old mare, a 6 year old Friesian Gypsy gelding and a coming 3 year old who's a Gypsy Shire! So at 63 lve got my hands full! But lm happy as heck!
You do have your hands full! LOL. That is some head strong breeds.
Yes, lm taking my time tho and they're pretty quick to learn. The baby is over 16 hands already!? so it's a bit intimidating at times cuz she's 2...and huge but she's pretty sweet. Again lm in no hurry. I'm also not too stubborn or dumb to ask for help when l need it! 😁
It's funny. You read her well. She looks relatively calm. It is just FUNNY. She hasn't been schooled. Tim, you're fabulous .team Cupcake
Certainly no one saw a chestnut mare coming.
Love your clips, thank-you from New Zealand.😊
Watching from New Zealand 🎉
From UK love your work
Hi Tim I'm watching from Gold Coast Australia it's 4:48 pm Friday. Love your videos. Appreciate you sharing.
Watching from New Zealand
Finally watching from my home in NC. for the past 8 weeks, I was traveling in Europe and had to figure out the 6 hour time distance to be able to watch. Never did watch live, so glad it was recorded.
So much wisdom in this video gonna take me a week + to unpack, lol
She has a nice rolling walk though…
I’m in Tucson. Haven’t got a horse now, putting my kid through college and getting ready to move back to Italy in a couple years once my husband retires (he’s Italian). I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to own a horse again, but I’ll always be a lifelong student of the horse.
Watching from Minnesota
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Watching from Karabuela, Otavalo, Ecuador.
From Nova Scotia Canada, no questions yet but I have learned alot watching you and after buying my first QH two weeks ago I look forward to working with her under your video guidance.
Queensland, Australia.Watching the Replay.
I showed my elderly friends ponies for her at a fair in halter classes several times. There were Shetland, Welsh and Haflingers. After two years I refused to show the Haflingers. I was always very comfortable with the others but the Haflingers made it clear to me they did not want to do what I was asking them to do and always did it begrudgingly. So they didn't show well and made me frustrated. Another person showed them for her the next couple of years and I was happy not to have to deal with them.
Hello from Ottawa, Canada🇨🇦
Anyone else love to hear the one asking the questions to Tim better?? Maybe a PA system tip jar?? 🤷🏻♀️💕
Watching from Salem Oregon
Watching from New Zealand😃
Watching from Washoe Valley/Reno NV. Thank you for your efforts to teach us.
Replay crew, Preston MS. Always learn something when watching your channel, thank you for lettin' us ride along 😊
Thanks Tim for talking about the different needs of different horses. Many of the internet trainers tout one method working for every horse.
While I agree with that for the most part, you're showing everyone the whys of what's important when with a particular horse and what will solve itself.
Great example you demonstrated is being harder on cupcake for not standing at mounting block, where others you just move the block.
Saskatchewan, Canada. My horse also can run off at a walk. He also moves away from the mounting block. I'm working on that and he gets better every time I check him from moving away.
Watching from Växjö Sweden.
Thank you.😊
Fan from NW Indiana. Love learning from you. ❤
Excellent video, lots of learning.
Great explanation of the symptom and the cause of a problem.
And why we treat the cause, not the symptom.
Watching from Mallorca while on holiday 😊😎
I'm watching from Ajijic, Jalisco, Mexico ... Glad to have found your channel several months ago ... I've learned many helpful things by watching you train ... I have a Rocky Mountain gaited horse, and a little mixed breed Mexican horse ... really appreciate your patience and how you explain everything you're doing & feeling ... must be very difficult to provide commentary during these sessions.
Watching from Punta Gorda, Florida.
I love your way at looking at things, makes petfect sense to me and it will work with all animals. I use a similar method with my rescued German Shepherd who use to throw himself on the ground in a tantrum (hope a horse won't do that 😂) He has been my most difficult dog and usual training didn't work - so I adapted to fit him. Everytime he didn't do what I asked, I found other ways till he understood. He's been the hardest dog ever, but the most rewarding.
We're from Scotland 🏴
Watching from NC
South Central KY. I let mine go to the corner they want to go to and then I will do some little figure eights and then move back out of the corner. I like that you just move her through the corner.
Hi Tim. Watching from Indiana. No horses these days but love your videos
Watching from Scotland.
Good morning all. As always a great video Tim. Thank you Tim & Melinda for the work you do to help others. 😃😇😇😍
Thank you❤️
Watching the replay from Northeastern Oklahoma. Good session and I can understand why you dread riding her.
I just got my first horse after 12 yrs of not riding because of my health, she a haflinger 17 yrs k , I’m in a wheelchair but have rode quarter horses all my life, she does the same thing wants to go where she wants, I don’t let her get away with it, I make her go the other way, my problem isn’t to my balance and strengthen my legs get better. She doesn’t really feel my cues like my other horses who were used to it., with circles and 8’s help? wants to plow rein , is this a common thing with Haflingers that they just want to boss their way through stuff thank you for your time. I enjoyed watching your video.
Thanks Tim & MaLinda! Kiowa says Hi!!
Yes sir. Consequences for actions still works.
Tuning in from the UK..🇬🇧..
Watching from Germany !
I agree with you Tim there is a difference between a horse making a mistake vs a horse that just says “no” and doesn’t care if they please you or not. Typically I find the “no” horses are very independent and unless you can impact them in some way they won’t try for you.
Watching from Missouri. I have a 4 year old mare, just under saddle. Currently riding in a bosal; I plan to put her in a snaffle soon. She is gaited and has a pretty strong walk, but is usually trying to speed that walk into a trot when riding in the field. I bring her back down with reins and voice. Often I’ll stop her and make her stand for a few minutes, then cue her to walk off. Sometimes works, but it doesn’t take more than a few strides and you can feel her energy building towards a trot. She doesn’t get ugly, just wants to rush. Also, she doesn’t like walking on soggy or wet ground and will root her nose out and away, trying to find a way around the wet or trying to take a different route altogether, required me to apply some real muscle to redirect her. I know she’s just testing me to see what she can get away with. She also tries to choose her path when walking down the lane, preferring the grass. I redirect her to the path, but at the same time half wonder if the grass is just more comfortable. I don’t ride with spurs because, after years of not riding due to my older mare being retired, my seat and legs aren’t what they need to be and I don’t want to accidentally gig her with a spur until my seat is better.
The grass is more comfortable. I would always let my horse choose that path. If it’s more comfortable I definitely pick my battles. But I have the same problem with water and I need to be a lot more firm. I have allowed my horse to get his way way too long.
Watching from Indianapolis, IN.
Hi Tim - watching from Michigan.
Watching from New Market, Alabama.
Enjoying and learning from your video…watching from Colorado!
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I'm watching from Denmark
Watching from Fort Mill, SC - just outside of Charlotte NC
Watching from Sebastopol Ca.
I'm watching from top end of the Sacramento Valley in California close to Oregon. I enjoy watching you work some of these horses that have different problems. We have 5 old retired mares from when we were younger and bred QH and Paints. They are all 25 to 30+ and born here, and one mule to guard them (that is out of my Peruvian mare and by UCDavis' Action Jackson). (That mule will take a dog out of that pasture 100 miles an hour. Even one of our own dogs.)
Idaho
This horse has a fantastic walk. I just sold one with an uncooperative attirude. Not mean, not dangerous but would rather argue about anything and everything. Im hoping her new owner has a good relationship with her. For me, i have to know the horse is trying. Some try for you, some waste their try on evasions. Cute little mare i wont miss.
Watching from Michigan
I’m in Maine!
Watching from Calgary, Alberta Canada
From Mid Coast Maine.
Lander Wy..working a 2 year old Morgan colt..( I raised)..and a 2 year old Connemara pony..( received at 9 months..both very different both going great, walk, trot. Not daily..no buck.
Watching from NC. Enjoy your training videos. Learning a lot DONT plan to do any training but it helps me understand how to deal with my horses
I’m a little late, but watching from here in San Antonio Texas
Oh! Watched the replay from Massachusetts. I missed the live; was at the co op. 😆
Richmond, Va
Watching from Ridgway in southern Illinois
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Watching from Malvern Hills, England
Hi Tim watching from Oxford U.K. love your videos 🙏🙏🙏
I’m watching from the UK. I am novice polo player 😊
I tried polo once. I wasn't coordinated enough. LOL.
Omg melinda…the side eye you get from cupcake each time she passes you! Lol
NJ eyes on you!
A dull horse that says no. But she is very pretty .Thank you for your clear explanation
This horse is so lucky that she has owners willing to try and adjust her attitude or she will be on a truck to Mexico to end up on a plate.
It’s not the horses fault.
@@justme-on7bn Actually it is her choice to be like this regardless of why. If her attitude does not change whe will become dangerous and frankly those are the horses that end up getting dumped in an auction. Nowhere did I "blame" the horse, it is the truth. Most trainers would not be this patient with her she would be taken behind the barn and get the crap kicked out of her. These people are giving her a chance. I do not understand why you felt the need to comment. I don't think the horse is having deep conversations, she has learned if she is a PITA people leave her alone and it will escalate if not stopped. I would rather ride a willing horse with a thinle of talent than a sulky horse that wants to do nothing. Too many good horses out there to deal with a horse like this so yes she is very VERY lucky.