That’s a Norwegian Fjord and looks like the white dun color variation. I own a Fjord, I’ve had him since he was weaned, and he’s now 6. He’s a super cool horse. And he is awesome on the trail. As a breed, I’ve found after working with several and having friends (and my veterinarian grew up with them) with them, they are not spooky, but they can tend to want to be in your space and try to bully you around. They also tend to want to bolt if rhythmically pressured, and when they bolt they are soft until their not, and then they are stiff and STRONG! They are more like a draft horse than a light horse in many of their mannerisms, and sometimes my Fjord gives me a “donkey vibe,” because of his eyes and nostril coloring, when he doesn’t want to do what I ask, he gives me a sideways ear and a glance that cracks me up, but also I pay close attention to, because if I give him an inch he’ll take a mile. I’m thankful that my Fjord is very forward moving, leggy and tall (5.1hh), not the chunky pony type. I use him in my lesson program and he will work in the round pen just as happy as can be letting little kids learn to post and two point. We even play around with some vaulting on him. He isn’t even phased if someone is shifting around. Sturdy and steady are key words once you get past the “Fjordness” tendencies.
@@pixie706 my fjord flexes very easily both laterally and vertically, but I put a LOT of ground work into him, and when I started him under saddle we worked a lot without a bit first, so he would be easy to give when I asked. He also has a longer neck than this one but it’s still tied in to the chest pretty low. He rides pretty nice just in front of the vertical and we are just now starting to get lateral flexion when I lay the neck rein in a combination bit that has a little leverage, but activated a noseband first. I rarely have to use the leverage of the bit, as he stays pretty soft to the gentle noseband pressure, BUT If he does decide to not flex though, there is nothing my 5’3”, 125lbs can do to stop him except relax and encourage him to get soft to my hands again. You’ll never win a tug of war battle with a Fjord.😂
I've also had my Fjord since she was weaned and I absolutely love the breed. Not the easiest horse since they are incredibly smart, but they are funny, smart, intuitive, cheeky, and the best in so many ways. Don't get one if you're easily intimidated by horses. And, yes, they can be very soft, but they can also use that neck. The key is to train them to soften the neck if they get an idea stuck in their head. 😆 Also, DO NOT overfeed them especially because they LOVE food. I've been fortunate to have great trainers, so my three-year-old mare is really great and easy to work with, but I put a TON of hours into her. It's nice to even see the neighbor kids come over and be able to handle her, but I think of how much work I put into her so she's gentle and easy. I appreciate that Tim Anderson doesn't let this gelding get away with anything, but he also explains how the gelding is thinking and processing information. Fjords think a LOT and can be very cheeky in both a funny and also a naughty way.
Not with 7k volts and ground rods eight feet deep. I test mine with my thumb. That way I know the power is there. Any horse can accidentally run through a fence, if they are scared.
So glad you slapped him on the butt. Too many owners seem to think the poor baby will be tramatized for life while they go around kicking and biting each other in the pasture. Get respect and manners FIRST - you don't have to beat them - then you can have that buddy relationship you want.
I am glad you are showing this. You are the one to work with this one as one can't be real sweet to him all the time. He has overwhelmed his owner, whoever he/she is. Total lack of respect.
I grow up with these kind of horses. Here in Sweden. They walk straight forward. Eat everything. And turn and go home when they want. Hard to ride for kids but unfortunatly often a kidhorse. Looks calm and not scared for anything. But many of them need to defend themself for stupid owners and then go aggressive. I saw a fiew nice dressage rided fjords and they look more relaxed in their face when they are friendly. When the mind is is in the right state. Good work. He looks big.
Fjords are not really common in Belgium, but there was one at my previous stable. He was considered as safe, as he didn't even know what spooking meant. But he woild drag everyone in hand if he could smell food, wad the best at pretending not feeling/hearing/seeing the cues (like the one in the video, who needs being whipped to do what he's asked for) and went into the corners when he didn't want to work (aka: every lesson), and good luck to move it away the corner! I had on him my sweetest fall ever: he tripped, I rolled on his neck, he just let me go quietly without mobing, and, when I landed on the floor, we were both: "what the heck happened?" The only other rime I handled a fjord was as a tourist in my own country. In that facility, tourists could deive themselves horse carriage dragged by a fjord, without supervision (you're just out on your own for 3 hours walking on the balised path), even if yhey knew nothing about horses. The fjords were so used to it they drove the carriage by themselves, knowing exactly where to go, stopping at the usual spot to have their break (and really stunborned, so no tourist could try to cheat with the path or the break, or making them trot) Truly amazing! So Fjords can be a dream or a nightmare, not in-between.
truth! i got kicked while lunging, because of my young disrespectful mare refusing to yield and i was NOT expecting it. my fault for being to close, also thinking our previous training sessions were solid. right after I asked for yield on the circle again, and she went in the air and charged me. dangerous, oh yes! I immediately went back the important basic of yielding MY space.
It can be unnerving when you get a horse who seems to know what they're being asked, or has previously done as asked, but then one time they stop and give you that look. Like, "Well, actually no." Especially if you haven't encountered such a horse before. They're not frightened, which will pass, or confused... they are testing you. You escalate the pressure and they just ignore it. This can be a time when they may decide to call YOUR bluff, and either charge or otherwise escalate pressure on YOU. So watch out. You have to be confident in yourself and not show any hesitation or weakness, because these horses will know and then you've lost
@@paloma4444 You have to make a judgement call. Don't step back, make yourself big, shout, wave your arms, do whatever it takes to call their bluff... nearly all horses will stop the charge and back off if they think you're serious. Having a flag really helps. Wave that right in their face. Of course, 1% of horses will try and kill you... that's the judgement call. Hopefully you never encounter that type of horse
I've found many horses who will test me and if I mean it and have any follow through on what I ask and I do mean many horses as you can even find the "creepers" where they get inch closer into your bubble or from the position you had them stopped at and it's why the escalation steps of the 1, 2, 3 or ask, tell, then enforce and the reward is that when the horse cooperates we don't apply any extra pressure than is needed and remove pressure for cooperating. I've seen people not read the horse correctly and increase the pressure when the horse either can't handle it or doesn't understand and that has led to more of what people have labeled as "aggressive" equine behaviors, but they are normally to get the human to relieve pressure as the horse is unable to find another method. There are very few truly aggressive horses I have ever met that would charge you or be aggressive in that way and I can tell before I put the halter on if that is the case pretty much every time. Horses commonly test, especially in youth and with new people as the question always is "where do you fall in the herd?" and that is why it takes so much time handling the horses and interactions and experiences for them to just accept "people are going to handle me, touch me, groom me, move me forward/backward/left/right and if they are good people they will be gentle and respectful about it". * Edit to add - Some of the horses we label as aggressive or dangerous were made that way by people letting them get an inch, then two, then a mile, and then running them over so they have been "trained" (horses are always observing and learning) to be able to walk all over humans, bite them, pull the reins out of their hands, etc. Some of the absolute worst cases of pure out aggression where the horse has actually intended to kill the person in the ring or even on the outside of the ring has been orphaned horses who did not have rules around humans because "it was a cute orphan foal that needed help" and no one thought far enough forward to the horse being 17h and 1250lb AND the horse was isolated from other horses so no discipline was done by a herd, a "babysitter horse" as we refer to them, and socialization was an issue so they were not really ever checked and 17h unchecked for since birth. . . .doesn't fear a human or a whip. Humans have been nurturing and not leaders, but bring milk and feed. Orphans can be "babied" because they don't have a dam so people feel bad and treat them different. The other worst cases of pure aggression have been abused horses and they are taught to be in fight/flight mode by humans and are fearful 24/7 and again, someone taught the horse to attack because a human overly used pressure and maybe never released or used it all of the time and didn't understand timing or anything about horses. I deal with behavioral cases more than we see on this channel because I am younger and 9 times out of 10 the owner or a previous owner had a significant hand in making the horse that way. I won't take on any case that won't do what I ask as it puts myself, the owner, and the horse in danger and if it's one of three questions I ask before I will even agree to meet about a case because if the owner isn't willing to make changes then there is no point and it's too dangerous for me no matter how badly I feel for the horse who didn't make themselves that way. I have never felt "unnerved" by a horse testing or giving me the finger as it simply informs me more about them and what I need to work on, how firm I need to be, how strong my boundaries need to be enforced, where my energy and work needs to go. I only feel confident because behind A, B, and C to a response to their actions I probably have another 23 letters before we get to numbers and the entire thing with a horse is out thinking them, because we can never out muscle them. I like some testing because as a partner on a trail or in a ring I do want their input, but I have final say. They can say it hurts, I'm uncomfortable with this, etc. and it's my job to make sure I am a responsible leader and caretaker for the animal just as a Boss wouldn't put me out to give a public meeting about the company on CNN the first day on the job after a brief training or ill, I wouldn't do that to my horse. It's Poor Leadership.
I’m going to post this video on any discussion trying to debunk dominance theory or try and say you never smack a horse…and those who think spanking a child is abusive. Some kids like this horse try and call the shots and push you, test boundaries like this horse you must follow through. This is perfect example of increasing pressure and eventually making the horse comply with a pop on the butt which does not harm or abuse the horse at all. Nor the toddler human.
@@seneynah with a cjild you use a language the child understands.. words. With a horse you use a langiage the horse understands, aka, it may be physical if boundaries are pushed too hard.. that is what lead horses do, they bite and kick. No need to hit a child, that only proves your own weakness.
Excellent, Tim. We used to have a lovely-looking Norwegian Fjord mare in the barn where I rode. But every class time, every student recoiled at the sight of "Olga's" name written next to theirs. When she did move, a very smooth gait.
Thanks for your wonderful and instructional videos. It's a Fjording. We were riding these horses, without saddles as kids, in Norway. Kind as anything, if they come from the right breeders, and trained as they should. I must have been one of the last people spreading fert with a Fjording, not a hobby farm. Cheers
I love these nordic/northern European types. They are a constant puzzle and challenge. Their intelligence is very different to that of 'blood' horses and yes, in some ways there is a donkey/muleness about them - they have a good instinct for self-preservation, if 'brought up right'. However, three is _very_ young for this type of horse to be started and already under saddle. More usually, it'd be at least a year, even two years, later.
@@grenade8572 More like, they will want to please you IF they reckon there is something in it for them, but someone who is experienced with them and their temperament will usually be able to kid them along wonderfully well, and eventually come to a sort of understanding between the two of you. They are not easy horses - very few of the northern European native breds are - and are not kid's horses either. They were, all of them, bred to be strong workers who stay fit, sound and healthy on sparse grazing in poor weather, and they do not thrive mentally, physically or metabolically on the easy life modern-day horsekeeping provides them with.
I have rejected these on prepurchase based on behavior and aggressive attitude. People think these smaller horses are good for beginners and youth. . . . Not a valid assumption
Norwegian Fjords were used at a wonderful Therapeutic Equine Ranch! Very gentle horses and so very cool with their strip color of in the middle of their manes and tails❤
I always imagined Norwegian Fjords to be a little on the lazy side but I've never worked with one. I like how you explain things to help people who may not have a lot of experience. Would it be possible for you to put the horse's name in parentheses in the title? It wiuld help us when we want to follow a particular horse. Thank you!
As I'm your friendly neighborhood, non horse person, you know that I don't have any idea as to his breed. Of course after reading comments, I do now, and will be doing some googling. Interesting looking horse, and yes, seems to be a bit of a chunk. Well if anyone can give him the needed attitude adjustment, it's you. Now I'm off to learn more about this guy's breed. Thanks Tim! ❤️🌵☀️⛈️🌈☮️🐎
I'm an invalid that streams your channel on my TV. Agree with "kers...8742". Give each horse a 2-3 letter ID ln the tile. Then done can call up all the videos together. I would learn & enjoy them a lot more, & watch a lot more of your channel. The horses head/neck look like it came off a Grecian urn, yet he's Norwegian, so beautiful. Thank you & good luck.
Great vlog Tim , you show different breeds and their mindsets the fjord being a very old breed is a tough and hardy horse, with the correct education at the beginning good groundwork installs respect and sets up a good foundation for the future for rider and horse, this relationship is critical in prevention to problems down the track 😊
Norweigan Fjord - one of the oldest and purest breeds in the world. Stubbern and headstrong🙈not easy to tell what to do, more ask and discuss - like with a mare🙏.
Norwegian Fjording / Fjordhorse off course 😉 but the colour is rare, most of them are yellow..... Norwegians say "Gullt er kult". I used to ride one 20 years ago, but I prefer horses and most Fordings are ponny size 😊😉
I had to deal with another boarder's disrespectful horse when I lived in OR. He and my horse were both out (gates from the corrals to an alleyway to the pasture). I called my horse in. The other horse ran past him, and then would have run over me so I got out of his way. Ran him out of my horse's stall and got my whip. Went out and repeated the call. The other horse did the same thing. He got close, I stepped toward him and whacked him HARD on the upper leg (above the elbow). He turned around and began to hump up to kick and got the whip across his butt. For a third time I called my own horse and the other rushed past him again. This time I stepped toward him and yelled (still ready with the whip). He turned and ran, and I got my horse in. The gal that owned him was scared of him. I tried to teach her what and how to become his leader, but she didn't want to 'hurt him'. I moved out of state not long after. Figured someone was going to get seriously hurt or killed someday. Frustrating.
There seems to be a lot of fear and misunderstanding nowadays on leadership...of both animals and children. Leadership equals domineering to many people, not realizing that animals (and children) actually want leadership. It's not loving to let a horse become dangerous. It's not loving to let a dog be out of control and finally dumped at a shelter. And it's not loving to let a child grow up into a rebellious young adult who can't hold down a job or make relationships work because they always have to have their way. It's sad. I don't understand people's inability to see this. Boundaries are good things. 👍
I agree! This is a very dominant horse and without the trainer taking leadership he is dangerous. If he goes back to his owner he will test them and if they do not require him to obey he will hurt someone.
In Switzerland we have a lot of Fjord horses in the riding schools. good workers. the breed can be incredibly stubborn 🤣 very interesting video. Thanks❤
Gypsy Vanners are considerably larger, have leg 'feathers' and thick manes, fetlocks and tails. Beautiful horses, but require a considerable amount of grooming.
Wow.....what a usual horse! Zebra + horse comes to mind!? Lost on the breed issue! Very interesting looking, and his build is different from what I am used to seeing. Needs conditioning and will be a bit dif looking after he is in shape. Short back and decent under line. compact.....wonder what he will feel like to ride!? He does have a decent stride. He is dominant in his actions.....good manners will make a big difference.
A zebra+horse is a “zorse” … zebra+donkey is a “zonkey” … I believe this to be a Fjord horse … I have a mule about the same size and temperament as this guy. Hope the owners can keep him the way Mr Tim will have him going. 😂
Oh my... This is exactly what my spotted draft x percheron does. She challenges me to call her out on her trying to make decisions. I have to be much more consistent on ask - tell - demand. I wish I was MUCH closer to your ranch.
Fjords can do anything once trained. I've seen stockier samples than this jumping fences wiith a child up.Does this breed have an innate stubbornness? I also hear that works to rider/driver advantage in the outback
In notwegian, we call the breed a "Fjording" I believe it is " Norwegian Fjord Horse" in english. It took me 1 second to recognize, but I am probably biased, lol. Great horses:)
The lunge whip your using seems to have more life than any I have used. Makes more noise when you swing it. Is it a certain brand? Perhaps I just need to practise using mine in a different way?
Strong wrist action with a sharp twist helped me learn to hold a whip properly. Similar to setting the hook on a fishing line!( at least in my experience)
So many things are wrong in this video. Norwegian horses shouldnt be started before they are 4 or 5 and this little guy urgently needs to loose weight before anyone is getting on him. But the main problem really is that the horse is considered an item which needs to be fixed. The owner shipped him off and is hoping someone else is fixing their toy. Instead the owner should get training and then try to work on the "issues" together with the horse as a TEAM. If the owner considers this little guy as problematic, perhaps he wasnt ready for an own horse or should have bought an older one.
I know this is a late comment, but in the United States many horses are started way before they need to be.Many of them are being ridden at the age of two, even though trainers know that their leg bones and total body growth has not been met. Show horses in particular are expected to perform in full advanced competition at the age of three.
It’s normal for horses to be sent somewhere to be started especially if there are not capable trainers in your area. Don’t forget how large the US is and some people live in the country hours away from other people so having regular training together is not feasible. If the owner did not care for the horse they wouldn’t spend the money on it at all and would just sell it. What if you want a reining horse but all the trainers around you are jumper trainer? Then you send your horse to the jumper trainer.
I’m glad you got after him when lunging. That’s probably what Charlotte did in that video that cancelled her. That’s what most people don’t understand . . . if dangerous behavior that those who really know horses see is not corrected someone can get hurt or killed. Thank you for doing what needs done. I would so love to be able to work with you.
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I believe the scientific name is Naughtious Fjordius.
Hysterical
Love it!
😆 I agree. But I never thought they got that big.
@@jenniferlehman326 The one in the video looks like 16 hands. No wonder he's got an attitude...that's a big horse!
That’s a Norwegian Fjord and looks like the white dun color variation.
I own a Fjord, I’ve had him since he was weaned, and he’s now 6.
He’s a super cool horse. And he is awesome on the trail.
As a breed, I’ve found after working with several and having friends (and my veterinarian grew up with them) with them, they are not spooky, but they can tend to want to be in your space and try to bully you around. They also tend to want to bolt if rhythmically pressured, and when they bolt they are soft until their not, and then they are stiff and STRONG!
They are more like a draft horse than a light horse in many of their mannerisms, and sometimes my Fjord gives me a “donkey vibe,” because of his eyes and nostril coloring, when he doesn’t want to do what I ask, he gives me a sideways ear and a glance that cracks me up, but also I pay close attention to, because if I give him an inch he’ll take a mile.
I’m thankful that my Fjord is very forward moving, leggy and tall (5.1hh), not the chunky pony type.
I use him in my lesson program and he will work in the round pen just as happy as can be letting little kids learn to post and two point. We even play around with some vaulting on him. He isn’t even phased if someone is shifting around. Sturdy and steady are key words once you get past the “Fjordness” tendencies.
Powerful looking neck . I don't expect that flexion is too easy
@@pixie706 my fjord flexes very easily both laterally and vertically, but I put a LOT of ground work into him, and when I started him under saddle we worked a lot without a bit first, so he would be easy to give when I asked. He also has a longer neck than this one but it’s still tied in to the chest pretty low.
He rides pretty nice just in front of the vertical and we are just now starting to get lateral flexion when I lay the neck rein in a combination bit that has a little leverage, but activated a noseband first. I rarely have to use the leverage of the bit, as he stays pretty soft to the gentle noseband pressure, BUT If he does decide to not flex though, there is nothing my 5’3”, 125lbs can do to stop him except relax and encourage him to get soft to my hands again. You’ll never win a tug of war battle with a Fjord.😂
Thanks for all the info about the breed! I’ve always been intrigued by Fjords but never knew about their behavioral tendencies like this.
It’s a Norwegian Fjord. A common breed in Denmark where I’m from 😊
I've also had my Fjord since she was weaned and I absolutely love the breed. Not the easiest horse since they are incredibly smart, but they are funny, smart, intuitive, cheeky, and the best in so many ways. Don't get one if you're easily intimidated by horses. And, yes, they can be very soft, but they can also use that neck. The key is to train them to soften the neck if they get an idea stuck in their head. 😆 Also, DO NOT overfeed them especially because they LOVE food. I've been fortunate to have great trainers, so my three-year-old mare is really great and easy to work with, but I put a TON of hours into her. It's nice to even see the neighbor kids come over and be able to handle her, but I think of how much work I put into her so she's gentle and easy. I appreciate that Tim Anderson doesn't let this gelding get away with anything, but he also explains how the gelding is thinking and processing information. Fjords think a LOT and can be very cheeky in both a funny and also a naughty way.
Good to be firm with him now and save him from an unfortunate end as a dangerous horse.
This is the kind that would walk right through an electric fence without batting an eyelash
Exactly, we had one who'd constantly break down our fences! Nothing stops them!
Not with 7k volts and ground rods eight feet deep. I test mine with my thumb. That way I know the power is there. Any horse can accidentally run through a fence, if they are scared.
So glad you slapped him on the butt. Too many owners seem to think the poor baby will be tramatized for life while they go around kicking and biting each other in the pasture. Get respect and manners FIRST - you don't have to beat them - then you can have that buddy relationship you want.
Exactly
Better a slap than a trip to the killer auction.
He’s like that undisciplined child except he’s bigger and dangerous.
And the boys get bigger and dangerous as well and end up killed by police. Raising an unruly horse or human is a death sentence.
“This is a gelding not a pregnant mare”😂. Thanks for the humor and reminder that it’s best to nip the unresponsive behavior in the bud.
I am glad you are showing this. You are the one to work with this one as one can't be real sweet to him all the time. He has overwhelmed his owner, whoever he/she is. Total lack of respect.
Thing is,if the owner isn't trained to deal with this horse,no matter what breed, he'll keep coming back. Never the horses fault ever!!!
I grow up with these kind of horses. Here in Sweden. They walk straight forward. Eat everything. And turn and go home when they want. Hard to ride for kids but unfortunatly often a kidhorse. Looks calm and not scared for anything. But many of them need to defend themself for stupid owners and then go aggressive. I saw a fiew nice dressage rided fjords and they look more relaxed in their face when they are friendly. When the mind is is in the right state. Good work. He looks big.
Fjords are not really common in Belgium, but there was one at my previous stable.
He was considered as safe, as he didn't even know what spooking meant. But he woild drag everyone in hand if he could smell food, wad the best at pretending not feeling/hearing/seeing the cues (like the one in the video, who needs being whipped to do what he's asked for) and went into the corners when he didn't want to work (aka: every lesson), and good luck to move it away the corner!
I had on him my sweetest fall ever: he tripped, I rolled on his neck, he just let me go quietly without mobing, and, when I landed on the floor, we were both: "what the heck happened?"
The only other rime I handled a fjord was as a tourist in my own country. In that facility, tourists could deive themselves horse carriage dragged by a fjord, without supervision (you're just out on your own for 3 hours walking on the balised path), even if yhey knew nothing about horses. The fjords were so used to it they drove the carriage by themselves, knowing exactly where to go, stopping at the usual spot to have their break (and really stunborned, so no tourist could try to cheat with the path or the break, or making them trot) Truly amazing!
So Fjords can be a dream or a nightmare, not in-between.
That’s no Fjord that’s an iceberg! Lol. Seriously though great video and explanation. You have such good timing sir
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Fjord, beautiful ❤ your such a great trainer!! I had horses for 26 years, im 66 now. But i sure know i enjoy your videos!!
Norwegian Fjord, which breed has a bull-headed reputation until they come around to the trainer's way of thinking.
truth! i got kicked while lunging, because of my young disrespectful mare refusing to yield and i was NOT expecting it. my fault for being to close, also thinking our previous training sessions were solid. right after I asked for yield on the circle again, and she went in the air and charged me. dangerous, oh yes! I immediately went back the important basic of yielding MY space.
Mine does that! I think he’s good then switches 😮😮
It can be unnerving when you get a horse who seems to know what they're being asked, or has previously done as asked, but then one time they stop and give you that look. Like, "Well, actually no." Especially if you haven't encountered such a horse before. They're not frightened, which will pass, or confused... they are testing you. You escalate the pressure and they just ignore it. This can be a time when they may decide to call YOUR bluff, and either charge or otherwise escalate pressure on YOU. So watch out. You have to be confident in yourself and not show any hesitation or weakness, because these horses will know and then you've lost
What are you supposed to do if they charge tho? Just stand there?
@@paloma4444 You have to make a judgement call. Don't step back, make yourself big, shout, wave your arms, do whatever it takes to call their bluff... nearly all horses will stop the charge and back off if they think you're serious. Having a flag really helps. Wave that right in their face. Of course, 1% of horses will try and kill you... that's the judgement call. Hopefully you never encounter that type of horse
I've found many horses who will test me and if I mean it and have any follow through on what I ask and I do mean many horses as you can even find the "creepers" where they get inch closer into your bubble or from the position you had them stopped at and it's why the escalation steps of the 1, 2, 3 or ask, tell, then enforce and the reward is that when the horse cooperates we don't apply any extra pressure than is needed and remove pressure for cooperating. I've seen people not read the horse correctly and increase the pressure when the horse either can't handle it or doesn't understand and that has led to more of what people have labeled as "aggressive" equine behaviors, but they are normally to get the human to relieve pressure as the horse is unable to find another method. There are very few truly aggressive horses I have ever met that would charge you or be aggressive in that way and I can tell before I put the halter on if that is the case pretty much every time. Horses commonly test, especially in youth and with new people as the question always is "where do you fall in the herd?" and that is why it takes so much time handling the horses and interactions and experiences for them to just accept "people are going to handle me, touch me, groom me, move me forward/backward/left/right and if they are good people they will be gentle and respectful about it".
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Edit to add - Some of the horses we label as aggressive or dangerous were made that way by people letting them get an inch, then two, then a mile, and then running them over so they have been "trained" (horses are always observing and learning) to be able to walk all over humans, bite them, pull the reins out of their hands, etc. Some of the absolute worst cases of pure out aggression where the horse has actually intended to kill the person in the ring or even on the outside of the ring has been orphaned horses who did not have rules around humans because "it was a cute orphan foal that needed help" and no one thought far enough forward to the horse being 17h and 1250lb AND the horse was isolated from other horses so no discipline was done by a herd, a "babysitter horse" as we refer to them, and socialization was an issue so they were not really ever checked and 17h unchecked for since birth. . . .doesn't fear a human or a whip. Humans have been nurturing and not leaders, but bring milk and feed. Orphans can be "babied" because they don't have a dam so people feel bad and treat them different. The other worst cases of pure aggression have been abused horses and they are taught to be in fight/flight mode by humans and are fearful 24/7 and again, someone taught the horse to attack because a human overly used pressure and maybe never released or used it all of the time and didn't understand timing or anything about horses. I deal with behavioral cases more than we see on this channel because I am younger and 9 times out of 10 the owner or a previous owner had a significant hand in making the horse that way. I won't take on any case that won't do what I ask as it puts myself, the owner, and the horse in danger and if it's one of three questions I ask before I will even agree to meet about a case because if the owner isn't willing to make changes then there is no point and it's too dangerous for me no matter how badly I feel for the horse who didn't make themselves that way.
I have never felt "unnerved" by a horse testing or giving me the finger as it simply informs me more about them and what I need to work on, how firm I need to be, how strong my boundaries need to be enforced, where my energy and work needs to go. I only feel confident because behind A, B, and C to a response to their actions I probably have another 23 letters before we get to numbers and the entire thing with a horse is out thinking them, because we can never out muscle them. I like some testing because as a partner on a trail or in a ring I do want their input, but I have final say. They can say it hurts, I'm uncomfortable with this, etc. and it's my job to make sure I am a responsible leader and caretaker for the animal just as a Boss wouldn't put me out to give a public meeting about the company on CNN the first day on the job after a brief training or ill, I wouldn't do that to my horse. It's Poor Leadership.
I’m going to post this video on any discussion trying to debunk dominance theory or try and say you never smack a horse…and those who think spanking a child is abusive. Some kids like this horse try and call the shots and push you, test boundaries like this horse you must follow through. This is perfect example of increasing pressure and eventually making the horse comply with a pop on the butt which does not harm or abuse the horse at all. Nor the toddler human.
@@seneynah with a cjild you use a language the child understands.. words. With a horse you use a langiage the horse understands, aka, it may be physical if boundaries are pushed too hard.. that is what lead horses do, they bite and kick. No need to hit a child, that only proves your own weakness.
Excellent, Tim. We used to have a lovely-looking Norwegian Fjord mare in the barn where I rode. But every class time, every student recoiled at the sight of "Olga's" name written next to theirs. When she did move, a very smooth gait.
Norwegian Fjord! Either a white or a grey. Always need tune ups on pushiness.
This is just excellent. Thank you.
Thanks for your wonderful and instructional videos. It's a Fjording. We were riding these horses, without saddles as kids, in Norway. Kind as anything, if they come from the right breeders, and trained as they should. I must have been one of the last people spreading fert with a Fjording, not a hobby farm. Cheers
Fjord breed.... I'm from near Calgary Canada ...a friend had one ... I love watching your training sessions
I love these nordic/northern European types. They are a constant puzzle and challenge. Their intelligence is very different to that of 'blood' horses and yes, in some ways there is a donkey/muleness about them - they have a good instinct for self-preservation, if 'brought up right'. However, three is _very_ young for this type of horse to be started and already under saddle. More usually, it'd be at least a year, even two years, later.
Are they the kind of horses who want to please you if you bond with them? Or will the jerp being challenging?
@@grenade8572 More like, they will want to please you IF they reckon there is something in it for them, but someone who is experienced with them and their temperament will usually be able to kid them along wonderfully well, and eventually come to a sort of understanding between the two of you. They are not easy horses - very few of the northern European native breds are - and are not kid's horses either. They were, all of them, bred to be strong workers who stay fit, sound and healthy on sparse grazing in poor weather, and they do not thrive mentally, physically or metabolically on the easy life modern-day horsekeeping provides them with.
I have a fjord too . I love him he is stubborn but very sweet 😁
Thank you!..great video
THIS GENTLEMAN SOUNDS LIKE WARDEN CAIN BUREL HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB WORKING WITH THIS 🐎
I have rejected these on prepurchase based on behavior and aggressive attitude. People think these smaller horses are good for beginners and youth. . . . Not a valid assumption
They're a quite primitive horse breed and it shows in the behaviour. Their hardiness is a blessing in right hands and curse in the wrong hands.
He’s a Fjord and living in their own bubble disregarding the person is their normal way. They are willful and do what they want to do.
I think it is a norwegian fjord horse due to the dark kine in his mane and a long his spine. He also has the typical markings on his legs.
Norwegian Fjords were used at a wonderful Therapeutic Equine Ranch! Very gentle horses and so very cool with their strip color of in the middle of their manes and tails❤
Racewise a Fjord pony or Norwegian we call them in Germany. Substantial content.
Thanks, I only knew the German word.
Circus Horse
I always imagined Norwegian Fjords to be a little on the lazy side but I've never worked with one. I like how you explain things to help people who may not have a lot of experience. Would it be possible for you to put the horse's name in parentheses in the title? It wiuld help us when we want to follow a particular horse. Thank you!
On RUclips each horse has its own playlist.
@@timandersonhorsetraining I didn't realise that! I retired from training and love your videos. THANK YOU!!
As I'm your friendly neighborhood, non horse person, you know that I don't have any idea as to his breed. Of course after reading comments, I do now, and will be doing some googling.
Interesting looking horse, and yes, seems to be a bit of a chunk.
Well if anyone can give him the needed attitude adjustment, it's you.
Now I'm off to learn more about this guy's breed.
Thanks Tim!
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There was one in the movie Frozen.
His ears are telling it all.
Norwegian Fjord. I have 4!!! Love them❤
Thank you so much for this. You are one of my fav teachers .
What a lovely manner you have❤
I'm an invalid that streams your channel on my TV. Agree with "kers...8742". Give each horse a 2-3 letter ID ln the tile. Then done can call up all the videos together. I would learn & enjoy them a lot more, & watch a lot more of your channel. The horses head/neck look like it came off a Grecian urn, yet he's Norwegian, so beautiful. Thank you & good luck.
I will try to start doing that.
He is a Norwegian Fjord horse. My friend had one who thought he was a "pocket pony." He had to be in everyone's business.
beautiful to see you working !
Looks like a Fjord, but the ones I’ve seen are more of a buckskin colour.
Great vlog Tim , you show different breeds and their mindsets the fjord being a very old breed is a tough and hardy horse, with the correct education at the beginning good groundwork installs respect and sets up a good foundation for the future for rider and horse, this relationship is critical in prevention to problems down the track 😊
Norweigan Fjord - one of the oldest and purest breeds in the world. Stubbern and headstrong🙈not easy to tell what to do, more ask and discuss - like with a mare🙏.
Definitely a chunky Fjord.
Agreed😭🤣esp on the chunk
That is exactly what I thought. Chunky, yes. But it seems the breed has a tendency to chunk up.
Norwegian Fjording / Fjordhorse off course 😉 but the colour is rare, most of them are yellow..... Norwegians say "Gullt er kult". I used to ride one 20 years ago, but I prefer horses and most Fordings are ponny size 😊😉
Never seen a Fjord that color but the mane is a dead giveaway.
I had to deal with another boarder's disrespectful horse when I lived in OR. He and my horse were both out (gates from the corrals to an alleyway to the pasture). I called my horse in. The other horse ran past him, and then would have run over me so I got out of his way. Ran him out of my horse's stall and got my whip. Went out and repeated the call. The other horse did the same thing. He got close, I stepped toward him and whacked him HARD on the upper leg (above the elbow). He turned around and began to hump up to kick and got the whip across his butt.
For a third time I called my own horse and the other rushed past him again. This time I stepped toward him and yelled (still ready with the whip). He turned and ran, and I got my horse in. The gal that owned him was scared of him. I tried to teach her what and how to become his leader, but she didn't want to 'hurt him'. I moved out of state not long after. Figured someone was going to get seriously hurt or killed someday. Frustrating.
There seems to be a lot of fear and misunderstanding nowadays on leadership...of both animals and children. Leadership equals domineering to many people, not realizing that animals (and children) actually want leadership. It's not loving to let a horse become dangerous. It's not loving to let a dog be out of control and finally dumped at a shelter. And it's not loving to let a child grow up into a rebellious young adult who can't hold down a job or make relationships work because they always have to have their way. It's sad. I don't understand people's inability to see this. Boundaries are good things. 👍
He looks like the bulldog of horses, that neck, he is beautiful
I agree! This is a very dominant horse and without the trainer taking leadership he is dangerous. If he goes back to his owner he will test them and if they do not require him to obey he will hurt someone.
Beautiful Norwegian Fjord! I used to have one! Beautiful, but headstrong horses!
Haflinger/fjord very pushy and stubborn both
Depends on how you work with them, I’ve got a 24 year old haflinger gelding who’s the sweetest guy 😊
Have you worked with mules at all . I known this isn't one but made me think of that type.
I have but not much.
Fjord. Who needs a diet! Gorgeous coloring.
He looks like an opportunist. Waiting for the moment you relax! His wheels are working in that brain! Independent, f-u attitude!😄
A pretty large Fjord!
Norwegian Fjord Pony.
In Switzerland we have a lot of Fjord horses in the riding schools. good workers.
the breed can be incredibly stubborn 🤣
very interesting video. Thanks❤
Thank you for sharing!
Im from Noway so they are very common here, Fjord horse :).
I’m thinking he wants to be dominant over you… can’t have that.
Smaller draft horse? I see Fjord- is this guy the same size as a Gypsy Vanner? I like draft horses- yep, he’s definitely not missed a meal!
He's about the size of a haflinger.
Gypsy Vanners are considerably larger, have leg 'feathers' and thick manes, fetlocks and tails. Beautiful horses, but require a considerable amount of grooming.
Wow.....what a usual horse! Zebra + horse comes to mind!? Lost on the breed issue! Very interesting looking, and his build is different from what I am used to seeing. Needs conditioning and will be a bit dif looking after he is in shape. Short back and decent under line. compact.....wonder what he will feel like to ride!? He does have a decent stride. He is dominant in his actions.....good manners will make a big difference.
A zebra+horse is a “zorse” … zebra+donkey is a “zonkey” … I believe this to be a Fjord horse … I have a mule about the same size and temperament as this guy. Hope the owners can keep him the way Mr Tim will have him going. 😂
Oh my... This is exactly what my spotted draft x percheron does. She challenges me to call her out on her trying to make decisions. I have to be much more consistent on ask - tell - demand. I wish I was MUCH closer to your ranch.
Ive heard extremely bull headed, be careful!
Great job, Mr. Tim!! Keep hydrated and safe!!😊
My horse walked out of his stall while I was getting saving to put in his stall
Fjords can do anything once trained. I've seen stockier samples than this jumping fences wiith a child up.Does this breed have an innate stubbornness? I also hear that works to rider/driver advantage in the outback
I hope he didn’t get laminitis, that neck looks like he’s close to it
Is that all neck or does his main stand on end?
Oh ya another channel I watch, Barn Boots and Country Roots have Fjords! They’re beautiful!
He's a chunk.
Fjords are built like that. A friend of mine was heavily involved with the Association
In notwegian, we call the breed a "Fjording" I believe it is " Norwegian Fjord Horse" in english. It took me 1 second to recognize, but I am probably biased, lol. Great horses:)
Norwegian Fjord horse forsure, and one more hint, he got some "pony behavior" as being stubborn and wanting to do his own thing
Wow a Norwegian fjord!
❤❤❤Tim❤❤❤ wonderful teacher
The lunge whip your using seems to have more life than any I have used. Makes more noise when you swing it. Is it a certain brand? Perhaps I just need to practise using mine in a different way?
Mine is just what the feed store by me had. I suspect its more technique than the whip itself.
Strong wrist action with a sharp twist helped me learn to hold a whip properly. Similar to setting the hook on a fishing line!( at least in my experience)
Great video can be used for horses and helps dealing with people too. Lol, no whip for people though.
Love your videos!!
he's soooo beautiful!!!
Fyord. Is that how you spell it? Saw them in Belgium and Norway.
Fjord,... they are so stinking cute.
Is he dragging his feet? Beautiful horse.
How do you deal with the kicking and no respect
I just finished editing a video that talks about that. It will be out in a couple days.
A baked potato!! He is SO cute!
So many things are wrong in this video. Norwegian horses shouldnt be started before they are 4 or 5 and this little guy urgently needs to loose weight before anyone is getting on him.
But the main problem really is that the horse is considered an item which needs to be fixed. The owner shipped him off and is hoping someone else is fixing their toy. Instead the owner should get training and then try to work on the "issues" together with the horse as a TEAM. If the owner considers this little guy as problematic, perhaps he wasnt ready for an own horse or should have bought an older one.
I know this is a late comment, but in the United States many horses are started way before they need to be.Many of them are being ridden at the age of two, even though trainers know that their leg bones and total body growth has not been met.
Show horses in particular are expected to perform in full advanced competition at the age of three.
It’s normal for horses to be sent somewhere to be started especially if there are not capable trainers in your area. Don’t forget how large the US is and some people live in the country hours away from other people so having regular training together is not feasible. If the owner did not care for the horse they wouldn’t spend the money on it at all and would just sell it. What if you want a reining horse but all the trainers around you are jumper trainer? Then you send your horse to the jumper trainer.
Love it! Belly department 😊 You are doing fantastic job. Thank you!❤
I’m glad you got after him when lunging. That’s probably what Charlotte did in that video that cancelled her. That’s what most people don’t understand . . . if dangerous behavior that those who really know horses see is not corrected someone can get hurt or killed. Thank you for doing what needs done. I would so love to be able to work with you.
Horse looks out of shape and tired
I liv in Norway and it's a fjord horse 😅
We don't see a lot of them in the states.
Typical Fjord ... *STUBBORN* looks like he's a stallion, or recently gelded.
I thought fjords were Lacey!
He has a short back and big neck. Not gated…. My guess…. Fjord?
Norwegian Fjord... The problem is he is a big pony. Ponies are deep thinkers. It gets them into trouble.
Their temperaments are supposed to be great. But, I am not impressed.
Is he a Fjords? He really resembles that breed.
Hands full there, how old is he?
He is a Norwegian Fjord
A haflinger cross??
Norwegian fjord, owner must be a Vikings fan
I am guessing he is a Fjord , They are trainable but bossy ,
Thought fjords were pacey.