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  • Опубликовано: 9 авг 2024
  • Is it worth it to repair this old Evinrude outboard motor? An old trolling motor like this Evinrude 2 stroke outboard engine might not be worth spending money to repair when a new 4 stroke outboard motor can be purchased for only a few hundred dollars more. This old Evinrude 2 hp outboard isn't running and may only need a few low cost repairs to get it running again, but the cost of a running outboard is quite close to what I might spend to get this one running. What are your thoughts on whether or not this old 2 stroke outboard engine should be brought back to life again?
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Комментарии • 169

  • @WayneTheBoatGuy
    @WayneTheBoatGuy  Год назад

    Here's the rest of the videos in this series:
    The second video "good and bad" ruclips.net/video/sgtJnrGwBBw/видео.html
    The last video in this series - ruclips.net/video/U2aob8Y_niI/видео.html
    Brandon's video "fixing the pull start" ruclips.net/video/-VZiFY8BnmM/видео.html

  • @dennishunter5034
    @dennishunter5034 2 года назад +13

    Those old 2 stroke Evinrude and Johnson outboards were extremely reliable and used very little fuel. I think you should check it over and see about getting it running again. I, for one, would be very interested in the process and video.

  • @krustysurfer
    @krustysurfer Год назад

    Wayne just scored my first outboard motor two hours ago!
    15 hp Evinrude which runs decently its a 1/5th the price of new, I think I did good, thanks for the video confirming a good decision made!
    Blessings and aloha

  • @manuiwa5905
    @manuiwa5905 2 года назад

    Fix it! I think what you will learn from the experience, success or fail is the true spirit of Wayne the Boat Guy! That is what makes you and your channel one of the best for any boat owner! Whatever you decide, know that you have my support. Thank you always for the videos and great content!

  • @gringofirst8052
    @gringofirst8052 2 года назад +2

    Hi Wayne, I’m also old school. The fun to repair something old and the proud feeling thereafter is really worth it. Looking forward for the repair. BTW I bought an Johnson 2 hp also from the ‘70. Good luck from the Netherlands….

  • @Hensleytheultimatehoundsman
    @Hensleytheultimatehoundsman 2 года назад +5

    I think your should do a compression test first. This will give you a good idea of how worn out the engine is. If it has good compression and you do everything you plan to do, that motor should start really easy and be extremely reliable. You might not need to reseal the gear case if the gear lube is not milky. If you replace the points I would recommend avoiding the BRP/OEM points because I’ve heard they recently have been mostly defective out the box, so I would go with Sierra points instead.

  • @matthewcacace6804
    @matthewcacace6804 2 года назад +1

    Definitely get it running if you can. They sound cool, and they don't build them like that anymore!

  • @jonathanblack1416
    @jonathanblack1416 2 года назад

    Mine is a little older and I’m trying to get it to get spark, I’m sure it will run with new points and condenser. I’d get yours running and use it are build beautifully, and look so cool. This one I have look’s more weathered than yours but less used. The rope looks near new and original. I trust to get it going and to use longer than I live. When I pull the rope it feels great and the water is flowing strong in the pail just pulling it without it running.

  • @jeffmckaig4763
    @jeffmckaig4763 Месяц назад

    Enjoyed this video, we're a lot a like in our curiosity towards getting stuff , hopefully cheap and running, I've bought a couple motors here and there, my last was a '77 Evinrude 6 hp I picked up for '75 bucks off Marketplace, did the precursory checks, spark, fuel and compression, turns out all was good, and with some carb cleaning, I had it running, had a weak water and fuel pump, sourced those parts, cheap , on Amazon, after using it a couple times on my 12 foot boat, I decided I wanted a 4 stroke cleaner outboard, I flipped it for a decent profit, and bought a 5 hp Briggs and Stratton, Air cooled 4 stroke engine, which I'm very happy with. Enjoy your content, great work Wayne !

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Месяц назад +1

      Nice! Those 6 hp are pretty plentiful and robust

  • @11bayrat
    @11bayrat 2 года назад

    Worth saving!! I have two of them.they are small lite.if one it two slow I put on the 2nd. Lol twin outboard on my inflatable.so much better then paddling.or lugging around a 50-75 lb motor and gas tank. Good luck. Very easy to work on.if u don’t like it I’ll take it

  • @tonybruno7848
    @tonybruno7848 2 года назад +3

    It,s power for your boat, not a comidaty, to be bought and sold. If you need a good motor for your boat fix it. It,s way better than the lawnmower engines on a stick they have today. If your looking to get rich from fixing it, no, it,s not worth fixing. Knowledge is power, keep that in mind.

  • @sailboatbob3969
    @sailboatbob3969 Год назад

    I have that motor, and just like you I undid that screw and the cover didn't come off, but when i figured out how to get the cover off blang there went the spring. You will need a gear puller. the points are under the flywheel the timing mark is on the wheel I believe it's 20 deg. I would start at the top points, plug etc get it started first then work down if needed

  • @cantbuyrespect
    @cantbuyrespect 11 месяцев назад +1

    I fix a alot of small engines so here is what I would do to keep cost down. I would first buy a spark plug because that one is gone but only after trying to clean the old one with a spark plug cleaning tool I own to test that the engine will even run. Then I would carefully take the carb apart and clean it out while trying to save the old gaskets, I have some bulk gasket material if I need to make one with a razor and holepunch set. I would replace the fuel line with bulk small engine fuel line that I have from other repairs and it would get a new impeller. This would keep cost down and make it economical to fix. Start accumulating this bulk stuff to keep your cost down across multiple engines.

  • @TimsWorkshopTJY
    @TimsWorkshopTJY 2 года назад

    I just picked up a 3hp and 2hp evinrude and johnson for free. I love working on these and restore them. They are perfect for inflatable rafts and small boats for trolling.

  • @jeffslawnmowerrepairandservice

    LOL! loved it, great info friend!

  • @fartbox3987
    @fartbox3987 2 года назад

    Great video as always Wayne! I just bought a 2 hp Suzuki DT2 for $300 just last week, for my 10 ft. Jon Boat!

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  2 года назад +1

      Congrats on the Suzuki!

    • @fartbox3987
      @fartbox3987 2 года назад

      @@WayneTheBoatGuy Thanks Wayne, I watched your "How to find Cheap Boats UNDER $1,000" video and I am taking it to heart! So far im $650 in!

  • @kenwindsoron1399
    @kenwindsoron1399 Год назад

    I have the same one for a backup on my 16 foot aluminum Forster keep it !!!

  • @markallison8108
    @markallison8108 2 года назад

    I have one and it works great. Had an issue with the ground wire so it would give me a shock every once and a while.

  • @bobstrades1
    @bobstrades1 2 года назад +2

    Wayne, I have watched every single one of your videos and I look forward to Friday to see what you've got going on! Like many have said, if that motor has good compression, then get it running. You can and will learn a lot tinkering with those. You can't beat those old Evinrude and Johnson 2 strokes. I have a 25HP Evinrude on my boat and they're very easy and fun to work on. Sometimes you need to look beyond the dollars and cents and think about the fun you will have and what you will learn tinkering with that old motor. BTW, I may have missed it, but did you say what year it was?

  • @robrob1596
    @robrob1596 2 года назад

    Get it running! I just bought one and I'd like to see a review!

  • @fishfieldoutdoors645
    @fishfieldoutdoors645 2 года назад

    Give her a compression test them see if she got spark you can use a drill to spin the motor over to do compression and spark if it has no spark clean points and make sure they are at correct gap should be 0.20 check gear lube and eventually drop lower, those kinds of motors are the best because you don't have to pull the power head because there is no shift shaft to unhook if gear lube is clean you could probably skip rebuild on lower just change gear lube once you get it running invest in impeller you might also be able to just clean the carb instead of rebuilding it. Love the content rock on🤙

  • @vandos11
    @vandos11 7 месяцев назад

    yes its worth it I use for kicker and has got me back to the ramp a couple of times when my 15hp broke

  • @homegrown_lonewolf
    @homegrown_lonewolf 25 дней назад

    I just got one for 100 bucks. Runs great, I just had to change the water impeller. Better than rowing my 10' Livingston.

  • @georgemorgan7070
    @georgemorgan7070 Год назад

    Beautiful unit.

  • @TURBOTHETANK23
    @TURBOTHETANK23 Год назад +1

    I just received one of these motors today and it doesn't run. I am most certainly going to get it running because 1- I don't know much about engines and I'd like to lean and 2- I still won't have to pay almost $1,000 for a new motor, 3- everyone in your comments seems to be pretty sure about its reliability. I think this will be a fun learning experience.

    • @beaconbus
      @beaconbus Год назад

      Did you get it going?

    • @TURBOTHETANK23
      @TURBOTHETANK23 Год назад +1

      @beaconbus no, I havnt figured out the air fuel ratio,

  • @user-xp3qg2ks5z
    @user-xp3qg2ks5z 4 месяца назад

    Yes I would I have a bunch of them and I use them all the time.

  • @TimsWorkshopTJY
    @TimsWorkshopTJY 7 месяцев назад

    Just ran across this video again and as you know I restore these old motors. My thought on saving these are they are mostly metal especially the older ones. They a very simple to work on and a great motor for lake trolling. Anything older is worth saving and reselling to folks who want them but don't know how or don't want to work on them. Mainly because they don't have the time unlike us retired folks.

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  7 месяцев назад +1

      I ended up giving this one to @BrandonsGarage and it actually was in worse shape than we both originally thought.

    • @TimsWorkshopTJY
      @TimsWorkshopTJY 7 месяцев назад

      I saw the video. I picked up an 1965 3hp Evinrude a year or two ago that the water jacket passages were totally clogged up. Got them all clean but still doesn't run right? I put it aside to work on other projects but plan or getting back on it someday.

    • @retardtiger
      @retardtiger 3 месяца назад

      This old retired guy has just been tasked with assessing 3 outboards, 4hp Mercury, 4hp Johnson & a Seagull. A trip down memory lane as I was the engineer in a boatyard in Lymington early 70’s. My concern is getting spares for the Johnson, could be 1985-91 era. Mercury now running, Seagull probably a museum piece!

  • @peteryeung111
    @peteryeung111 2 года назад +2

    As long as parts are available and legal useable, these little motors are much lighter and easier to work on vs. Four strokes. If compression is good keep it, get it going, or sell it to someone that appreciates vintage motors.

  • @johnreeves6854
    @johnreeves6854 2 года назад

    my buddy scraps and he had this at his house for a bit I finally got him to let me have it and I. actually rebuilding it I
    right now super easy to work on not much to it my goal is to get it running for little to nothing good video though

  • @fleetwin1
    @fleetwin1 2 года назад +1

    Well, these things do bring big money, don't know why, but they do. The first thing to consider is whether or not this was used in salt water. If it was, you will need to be very careful trying to remove fasteners, don't want to snap them off. Next, you might want to do a compression test and drain the gear lube. If the compression is OK 80-100PSI and no water is evident in the gearcase, you can go further. The paint is not discolored on the powerhead, so it doesn't appear overheated. But, someone could have run it without oil, but this should show up on the compression test.
    Next, decide if you are going to keep it, or sell it. Spending another 100+ dollars on a 175 initial investment doesn't leave much room for profit. So, I would simply clean up the mag plate and clean/reset the points, this is usually all it takes to get good spark. Yes, pull the carb bowl off and have a look. I wouldn't do much with the carb if it looks clean inside, just put it back together. Fuel line is cheap, so it is always a good idea to replace that. Now, refill the gearcase with lube, maybe a new spark plug, add 50:1 mix, put it in a barrel full of water and I'll bet it will probably start and run fine.
    Now, if you plan to keep it, that is another story. Keep in mind that you can't find a simple, light weight two stroke like this anymore. It is simple and fairly rugged, reliable, and easy to service. So, I would go ahead and do more to it to ensure it will provide reliable daily service for you. If the gear lube is clean, I would go ahead and pull the gearcase down and replace the water pump impeller. This is a strange water pump and there are two kits available. It is a good idea to spend the extra bucks for the better kit with the SS impeller housing liner. These gearcases rarely leak water, but I would definitely pull the propeller off and make sure there is no fish line back there which could get into the prop shaft seal. If all looks OK, I would not mess with any seals. Go ahead and install the ignition kit and replace that funky plug wire. And yes, pull the carb off and install the latest style carb kit that includes a new float and ethanol resistant gaskets/orings. Like I say, these are great little engines and worth the investment for yourself provided it is in decent mechanical condition to begin with.
    If you are not familiar with doing this work, or afraid of snapping off corroded/rusted hardware (salt water), then I would simply resell it with a price tag of $200.

  • @calres8626
    @calres8626 Месяц назад

    Great motor-I bought mine for $75 dollars not running. Not much to get it running. I use it with my Bass Prowler.

  • @msamour
    @msamour Год назад

    Yes! Definitely!

  • @Dreancaidi
    @Dreancaidi 2 года назад

    You want to get it running, you know you do!!

  • @wetsloth
    @wetsloth 2 года назад

    You must be in Michigan, the pic of the Johnson 2hp at 2:45 is literally the exact motor I have! I bought it off marketplace for $250 but I recognized that pic from the ad!

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  2 года назад +2

      I am not in Michigan - but I did look far and wide for recent 2 hp outboards for sale!

  • @glendauphin1422
    @glendauphin1422 Год назад

    I just bought one identical to this yesterday. It starts every pull, but only runs for a second or two. The fuel tank was empty, clean and dry. I put fresh fuel/mix is in it. The vent cap was an open. I tried full choke, 3/4 choke, half choke, 1/4 choke, no choke. I’m gonna replace the spark plug tomorrow and try it again. I’ll look for the easy obvious stuff first. You should fix your’s up and keep it.

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Год назад

      Try cleaning out the carb - that's what fixed my 2.5 Mercury last week - ruclips.net/video/wJ0tJzCcikM/видео.html

    • @OnGod1007
      @OnGod1007 Год назад

      I have one in my basement. It runs perfectly fine. How much are these worth?

  • @danburkhart186
    @danburkhart186 11 месяцев назад

    I have a 1960 Evinrude Light twin. I do want to get it running again. Can you let me know that list of probable things that need to be replaced. Also how to clean out the tank? Thank you. Dan in Temple Texas.

  • @skyfly51
    @skyfly51 2 года назад

    Plus with that aftermarket plug wire the ignition is probably all new

  • @anthonykoeiman3677
    @anthonykoeiman3677 3 месяца назад

    Will keep it

  • @lovetofly32
    @lovetofly32 2 года назад

    If you see this comment.. I bought a BRAND NEW 1976 never been used 7 hp Montgomery Ward sea king. It's beautiful! The guy said the box fell apart but it still has the plastic and a tag hanging by the choke that gives all the info about it. I inspected it and bore scoped it and I think I'm the first one to have the plug out of it. I had to buy it but I really can't decide whether I want to use it or not! I was going to have it clear coated to protect it but not sure thats a good idea..Im planning on doing a video on it. I was going to show starting it for the first time but I'm like, "do I really want to do thaaaat"😬 Anyway. Just thought I'd tell the story here..😁

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  2 года назад

      That's cool! If you do want to preserve it, rather than clear coat, maybe just a good wax to keep it from oxidizing.

    • @gabrielh5937
      @gabrielh5937 Год назад

      Montgomery ward is shit

  • @skyfly51
    @skyfly51 2 года назад

    Assuming you can do the work yourself. Those old 2 strokes can be a great investment. At $175 non running that is a deal to run away from. And yes the price of the new ones vs an old one i think is a joke. But having owned about 10 vintage OMC outboards and buying a brand new tohatsu, i feel confident that the old 2 strokes will still be running when that tohatsu is in a scrap yard

  • @diyforbroke
    @diyforbroke 2 года назад +2

    I would keep it ,its a piece of history, in outboard motor evolution

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  2 года назад +2

      And it's not too heavy to hang on the wall!

    • @maddgoatee9708
      @maddgoatee9708 2 года назад

      @@WayneTheBoatGuy I would hang it on the wall. I have a old 7.5HP Mercury 2 stroke that was giving to me. Has good compression but doesn't run and most all lakes in my area don't allow 2 stroke. So I'll give a good cleaning, paint and hang in my fish cave.

    • @blaccsilverstaff5484
      @blaccsilverstaff5484 Год назад

      @@maddgoatee9708why don’t they allow 2 stroke motors?

    • @maddgoatee9708
      @maddgoatee9708 Год назад

      ​@@blaccsilverstaff5484 The carbureted two-stroke engines emit up to 30% of their fuel in the water and are unburned. Damaging to the environment. Electronic injection two-stroke because these engines aren’t as efficient as 4 stroke. There is no ban on two-stroke boat motors in California. Although most lakes do not allow the use of high-emission two-stroke motors, that’s not what the state law says. Especially in saltwater lakes and rivers, there are no restrictions on such engines. We only fish freshwater lakes and occasionally the river. I also have a Merc. 35hp 2 stroke wall hanger. And that one runs.

    • @blaccsilverstaff5484
      @blaccsilverstaff5484 Год назад +1

      @@maddgoatee9708 up to 30%… so it could be way less than that if it’s tuned properly

  • @scyz2807
    @scyz2807 Год назад

    I have a 1971 2hp Evinrude Mate and after cleaning out the very gunked up gas tank, all I had to do was replace the old (cork?) float in the carb and get a new spark plug. I also got the motor for $60 and those parts cost less than $40. So I'm happy. As far as your motor goes, why replace things you may not need? Does it have spark? If so, will a little starting fluid/spay get it to start briefly? Check that fuel flows from the gas tank also. If someone allowed the fuel (with oil) to evaporate over several seasons, then your tank may need a serious cleaning - including the outlet screen/filter. My motor's carb float was old and didn't like to "float" so I replaced that with a new version. Replacing that and the spark plug had things working very nicely (once the gunked up fuel tank was cleaned up).

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Год назад

      That's so cool that yours came back for under $100 total! Unfortunately, this one had a much rougher journey!

    • @scyz2807
      @scyz2807 Год назад

      @@WayneTheBoatGuy Is it running now?

  • @bryans3287
    @bryans3287 Год назад +1

    Definitely a neat simple engine

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Год назад +1

      It really is - but sadly this one wasn’t a happy camper

  • @gotb18c5
    @gotb18c5 Год назад

    Where did you get that screen shot on 2 strokes? I live in that area and can’t find it. Coincidentally enough, I’m rebuilding a 2 stroke Clinton Apache. 5:09

  • @dannyray8719
    @dannyray8719 11 месяцев назад

    I just bought one, but it's a 2 stroke 4 speed I paid $25.00 for it. It looks brand new under the cover.

  • @Badwolf6466
    @Badwolf6466 10 месяцев назад

    Howdy from Sugarland Texas. I have a 90SPL Pre mix. I noticed that I am getting 2-Stroke oil residue all over the inside of engine cover and engine. However the engine runs great and never fouls plugs. What could be the problem ? Is this a sign that its time for a rebuild ? Even though it runs great.

    • @Gizmos_and_stuff
      @Gizmos_and_stuff 4 месяца назад

      perhaps a fuel leak? or something with the carb boot? i dont know much about outboards so im just making random guesses

  • @waynerowlinson6177
    @waynerowlinson6177 2 года назад

    The issue with an old outboard is that you don't know it's history. Was that motor used for 1000 hours somewhere? Did someone put straight fuel in it at any time? The main thing is does it have compression? A tester is best, but if you have the plug in it and it gives a nice pop-pop-pop with some resistance, it is probably OK. A cheap bore-scope from eBay to check the cylinder wall is a good thing to have around small engines as well.
    I bought an identical motor a couple years back from a local buy-sell site for 50 or 75 dollars. Someone previous to me had a mixture of metric and SAE bolts in it, and various other janky fixes.
    Several hours of work, and a few parts later (about $50) I finally had it sputtering in a barrel in my back yard.
    That's where my story ends. My neighbour had been watching me work on it for a couple of days, and when he heard it fire he walked over and offered me more than it was worth to me, as I already had several small motors.
    That's the thing about these old motors, the value is different to different people.
    I saw it as a cool old motor that I was willing to put a small amount of money into and run once or twice a year just for fun. My neighbour saw it as a perfect lightweight motor to put on his canoe. If I had to guess, if he takes good care of it, that motor will be good for another 50 years.
    My recommendation to you is to fix it for yourself, or get it to someone who will fix it and use it. It's too useful of a motor to be a wall hanger. Unless, of course it is worn out.

  • @mitchelldranow5069
    @mitchelldranow5069 2 года назад +1

    If you have the time and tools, try to get it running. It’s not a big financial investment, and, regardless of whether you actually get it running, you may learn a few more things about how small outboards are assembled and run than you knew before you worked on it.

  • @bobhodson7640
    @bobhodson7640 2 года назад

    Wayne the law out here in the west is a lot of the lakes are outlawing them because of the gas and oil thats left on the water, The 4 stroke is a lot cleaner, If you get caught with a 2 stroke the fine is quite hefty, For the price of the fine , would pay for half of a new 4 stroke outboard.

    • @claynystrom1404
      @claynystrom1404 2 года назад

      there good here in minnesota and we got 17000 lakes/ wisc too never trust a tree hugger or wind mill to power a boat! two strokes are still made today! love all of mine fines? yah

  • @victorremick9721
    @victorremick9721 2 года назад

    If you see one buy it . They are the best there ever was. Have a canoe You need this motor.

  • @darrylmcleman6456
    @darrylmcleman6456 2 года назад

    Hello ! One thought in regard to that engine in my area of British Columbia,Canada.There are some lakes where gas is not allowed and you use an electric only or row. CHEERS

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  2 года назад

      Yeah - that's one of the factors making it questionable with these old 2 strokes.

    • @claynystrom1404
      @claynystrom1404 2 года назад

      In canada you live under a dictator so just what does your king allow you this week? get you bank account back ? your truck? your freedom is lost!

  • @scottkress1083
    @scottkress1083 Год назад

    I can't even find the the time to clean house. I do have a 25 horse I'd like to get running though.

  • @-Viceroy-
    @-Viceroy- 2 года назад

    Brandon sent me here.
    I'll just wait for a video with the repaired starter

  • @Dreancaidi
    @Dreancaidi 2 года назад

    The motor you buy for 200-300 is running but will probably need some attention, parts soon.

  • @24hrMusic
    @24hrMusic 2 года назад +1

    Wayne, you might want to sell it "as is"... I think Maryland just changed the law such that you need to have a safety lanyard in order to use a small outboard. It may not apply to old outboards. But, I am not sure..

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  2 года назад +1

      The law was nationwide and I think because of it's age it's exempt and because it's below 3 hp
      But good thinking - lot's of times we forget stuff like this!

    • @Hensleytheultimatehoundsman
      @Hensleytheultimatehoundsman 2 года назад +2

      @@WayneTheBoatGuy outboards without a kill switch are exempt from that law because that would make all pre-90s outboards illegal to run

    • @claynystrom1404
      @claynystrom1404 2 года назад

      tell them to see you in court! there is a reason people are leaving blue states

  • @kentuckyblugrass
    @kentuckyblugrass 2 года назад

    I like that hat almost as much as the outboard.

  • @edvanderveen5973
    @edvanderveen5973 2 года назад

    Reduce, reuse, recycle ♻️. Fix it it up and make a video of that for us!

  • @quasarcom5041
    @quasarcom5041 Год назад

    Wayne I need some advice. I just purchased a 14 foot StarCraft. I now need a motor . The guy I purchased the boat from has a 1984 Johnson 25 hp. Motor. He was not selling the motor with the boat. He was going keep the motor. He said it was a awesome motor and did not want to sell it. I asked what it would be to change his mind. He finally said ok! If you want 7:42 it 800.00 not a penny less. Now I know someone 7:54 that has a almost new Mercury 6 HP. It only has about 5 hours on it. I don’t have to go fast. I am A older man and just want to get to where the fish are. I have had a few friends tell me don’t buy the Mercury it’s to small. Other friends have said don’t buy the Johnson it’s to old and they are not in business anymore. They are both the exact same price. Can you tell me your opinion?

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Год назад

      If the Mercury is a 4 stroke, it will be easier to fuel up (no mixing gas and oil), lighter to carry, less weight on the boat, and easier to deal with because it's newer and probably made by Tohatsu. But it will be slower - and unless you're in a competition, or needing to get somewhere quickly - that might be fine. I'm putting a 6 hp on my 14 foot boat this spring - so I will have more feedback when I do!

    • @quasarcom5041
      @quasarcom5041 Год назад

      @@WayneTheBoatGuy ok! TU I need to buy it now if I am going to . Kind of a rare find. It only has a few hours on it for 1200.00 less than new

  • @youdonthavetoreadthispost.5850

    Nice ! A smart guy could place a variety of different power-heads on that drive train. A compact gas-powered engine, like for a large weed whacker could be adapted for an air cooled 2 cycle outboard application. Battery lawn mower engines might work as well. 🤔 Now where's that old chain saw ? 🙂

    • @youdonthavetoreadthispost.5850
      @youdonthavetoreadthispost.5850 Год назад

      BTW that cowling alone is worth a few bucks. Try and find one 😂

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Год назад

      I had considered using it as a test platform for alternative propulsion projects, but I'm sure another dead engine will come my soon!

    • @youdonthavetoreadthispost.5850
      @youdonthavetoreadthispost.5850 Год назад

      @@WayneTheBoatGuy You have options and there will be more. The transmission/lower unit could be driven by anything. My trolling batteries will deliver 25 amps each for 175 minutes.
      That could be 2 50lb thrust min-kota's or just use your imagination ? 100lbs of thrust will push my drift boat up river. I watch one do it with a single 70lb electric motor and a 9.8 for back-up. Tripple screw is possible - 2 electric with gas in the middle on some boats. It's the hull that matters Repowering is like changing tires to me.
      Enjoy your posts and this discussion. I lived next to a 200 slip marina. My wife would say 'in' the marina lol. I have 2 boats at the moment. That's me.

  • @frankiannelli989
    @frankiannelli989 2 года назад

    Hello Wayne , I think the advise is IF ONLY , if only things were different , like when you can get a hold of your local school district ,and ask if they have a high school class the repairs mechanisms like car engines. Body work for cars and such. Years ago they would do the work for you.,the students would learn and they would charge you for the parts. or if you I u supplied the parts they would use your idem for class purposes. If only things were the same as when things were simple......If only...

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  2 года назад +1

      I don't mind playing with this engine - it's just whether or not it's worth the $$.

    • @frankiannelli989
      @frankiannelli989 2 года назад

      @@WayneTheBoatGuy its a matter of tinkering I quess , look at it as a erector set. Just a HE toy !!!

  • @jcamp348
    @jcamp348 Год назад

    Naaaah sell it to me! Only kidding I have over 300 motors and six if the are these style. Good little runners!

  • @jordanbeyer7607
    @jordanbeyer7607 2 года назад

    Yes, you are over 300, but, those engines you buy will probably need a water pump, likely need fuel hoses, and my need a carb kit. So really, it's not that bad, and you know they are now good. Often times the points and condensers are not bad. Check the condensers with a multi meter and as long as the points are not pitted badly, it should be fine. I picked up a 6 hp evinrude for 100 dollars. Didn't run but the guy had put all new fuel lines, water pump, the whole thing but couldnt get it to run. Points where good but had some corrosion and wouldn't make good contact. Rubbed it with emery cloth and it's been a champ since. I'd say go for it!

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  2 года назад +1

      Great points (pun intended) - other motors, even if running at time of purchase have unknowns.

    • @gabrielh5937
      @gabrielh5937 Год назад

      A brand new Suzuki four stroke needs nothing but fuel stop kidding yourself.

  • @carlesmaroti5892
    @carlesmaroti5892 Год назад

    sale it as soon as posible man🙂

  • @thedevilinthecircuit1414
    @thedevilinthecircuit1414 2 года назад

    I would fix it, WTBG. Why? Because one gains knowledge and skill through experience. Even if you sell it at a loss, you have to add the value gained via going through the process. These motors are made by different companies, but mechanically they are similar in construction and function; "The more you know..." [shooting star animation] The other reason to fix it--from a guy perspective--is probably the most important: it presents an opportunity to add tools to your collection!

  • @jimmclam
    @jimmclam 2 года назад

    If you are handy and can do the repairs yourself it might be worth the effort and you at least have a spare motor to take along on long days on the water. But if you have to hire a mechanic to rebuild the engine its definitely not worth it. These small engines are designed as "throwaways" to be used until they peter out and then get a new one. But if you run it properly and maintain it correctly a small engine should give you good service for quite awhile.

  • @jamesstewart5371
    @jamesstewart5371 2 года назад

    Anyone who ventures out on a lake alone should know the basics of fixing an outboard motor it may save your life

  • @tomcroydonfrommtthomas4719
    @tomcroydonfrommtthomas4719 2 года назад

    Or course it's worth saving. I am in Australia and would pay $400 for it

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  2 года назад

      Everything seems to be a little more $ down there!

  • @billythekid2281
    @billythekid2281 Год назад

    The coil had failed on mine. Put a new one in for about $40 and away she went.

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Год назад

      Nice! That wasn't the case with this one. Here's the follow up video - ruclips.net/video/U2aob8Y_niI/видео.html

  • @PainterD54
    @PainterD54 Год назад

    If i needed it, I'd fix it myself (I like to tinker on that kinda stuff) but If I did not need it, I'd sell it cheap.

  • @JoshSees
    @JoshSees 2 года назад

    Can of carb cleaner, wire brush the spark plug, change the gearcase oil. That's probably all it needs.

  • @claytonshuntingandfishing
    @claytonshuntingandfishing Год назад

    I would fix it up and then use it until it does not run then put it on the wall

  • @HOLLESjr
    @HOLLESjr 2 года назад

    The easy motor to Work on that i have ever rebuilt. I spent 1900.oo on a Johnson 40Hp at three shops and it still runs like poo.

  • @krustysurfer
    @krustysurfer Год назад

    And as far as that motor goes fixed it up get it running and then give it away to someone here in your comment section one of your subscribers...
    Or....
    Use it as a price for a contest awarded to a lucky new subscriber... thats if you get a certain amount of new subs 😉just an idea or two aloha

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Год назад +1

      In the end, this motor got "fixed" by another RUclipsr!

  • @crawford323
    @crawford323 7 месяцев назад

    Restoring a historic style engine is worth it.

  • @redteam9881
    @redteam9881 Год назад

    Fix it they are great motors

  • @thomasm9139
    @thomasm9139 2 года назад

    Does it even have a water pump? Could be air cooled.

    • @jordanbeyer7607
      @jordanbeyer7607 2 года назад

      I am not sure about this one, but even the air cooled outboards still have a water impeller to cool the exhaust

    • @thomasm9139
      @thomasm9139 2 года назад

      @@jordanbeyer7607 Well the Honda 2 HP's do not. Your lower unit looks very similar.

    • @johnramsden8760
      @johnramsden8760 2 года назад

      It has a water pump.

  • @avbates79
    @avbates79 Год назад

    I think you should sell it to me for a reasonable price (what you paid) and I will run it. I have five of these and love them, but they do need repair due to age.

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Год назад

      There's a follow up to this video which shows what happened and where it ended up - ruclips.net/video/U2aob8Y_niI/видео.html

  • @jackgreenlund9904
    @jackgreenlund9904 2 года назад

    Probably will need a coil too

  • @marlowe5555
    @marlowe5555 2 года назад

    Hi Wayne. Good news! The actual cost to get your motor running is ONLY $140. Your original investment is a 'sunk' cost and should be discounted.

  • @user-ps6cq9im7b
    @user-ps6cq9im7b Месяц назад

    Get it running again

  • @Army1945
    @Army1945 Месяц назад

    I have that's much older and a different style

  • @jameshardin4326
    @jameshardin4326 11 месяцев назад

    That will run rings around a New 4 stroke
    Thats why its worth fixing

  • @leerichy6489
    @leerichy6489 2 года назад

    The best mud weight you ever bought haha.

  • @tomsuica8731
    @tomsuica8731 Год назад

    cHARMING VID!

  • @grahambarton1942
    @grahambarton1942 Год назад

    I had two of these and they are terrible motors. Hard to start, unreliable and 1 clamp is not enough. One of them came off the dinghy. I see you discovered the spring start screw trap! We had springs and cords breaking a lot because you had to pull the darn things so many times trying to get them to start! If it was an old Yamaha it would be worth fixing.

  • @BaysideShrimp
    @BaysideShrimp 2 года назад

    I’d probably have a heart attack if I added up the number for my old two strokes…

  • @PapaMav
    @PapaMav 2 года назад

    Art??

  • @user-tc9ss6vv6i
    @user-tc9ss6vv6i 7 месяцев назад

    Paid 10$ for mine never ran sold it 35$.

  • @kodibassInsideoutboards
    @kodibassInsideoutboards 3 месяца назад

    Buy the China/Tiwan Evinrude/Johnson/Nissian/Mercury/Tohutsu .. ect.. motors, They R the Best! kb

  • @davescheer5038
    @davescheer5038 Год назад

    So you own it , now you say you need all those things to replace on it but have you put gas in it and tried to run it ? 1st thing pull the spark plug if it turns over it’s not froze up , run a compression test , if it’s in good standards spray some mixed two stroke gas in the hole and replace the plug , set it in your test water tub and see if it will start , check and see if it’s got spark , ? Compression-spark-fuel are needed to get it running , if it starts do you really need to buy all the new stuff you said , maybe a new plug , if it starts and is pissing water your in luck you can still open the water pump systemic to inspect the impeller if it’s ok just lube it up and reinstall it , the points can be cleaned and adjusted , the ting with a lot of the micro motors is they weren’t used a lot , the week end fishermen used it a half dozen times , and a lot got thrown in the corner of the garage , if the fisherman got serious he bought a bigger motor and the small one sat for years with not many hours on them , I would just try to see if you could get it going first them worry about replacing old and worn parts later , new plug , clean the carb and fuel system, make sure it’s got spark and let her rip ! 😳

  • @bluemountaindrivepae
    @bluemountaindrivepae 2 года назад

    I bought a 85 Evinrude 2 hp for $225. You should only buy running outboard motors.

  • @92foxcarguy21
    @92foxcarguy21 Год назад

    Zell it to someone nostalgic

  • @robertpapps3618
    @robertpapps3618 9 месяцев назад

    Fix it if that's what you like to do otherwise it's hard to justify.

  • @PapaMav
    @PapaMav 2 года назад

    I would not own an OB w/that low a HP.

  • @semajekrad6922
    @semajekrad6922 2 года назад

    Fix it

  • @tonybruno7848
    @tonybruno7848 Год назад

    Wayne, youve been around long enough to know that it's worth it. you think in 60 years someone will say is it worth to fix this 4 stroke Suzuki? HA!

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  Год назад

      I see old 1920s and 30s outboards that are beautifully restored and sadly there's hardly any market for them. Sometimes they sell for very little.

  • @jennycafehier1555
    @jennycafehier1555 2 года назад +1

    do not fixit look for four stroke engine less fuel consumptie runs twice the distend of two stroke engine

  • @lenawalsh5065
    @lenawalsh5065 2 года назад +1

    The problem is that you overpaid for it in the first place. Otherwise it would be worth it.

  • @milesd.5602
    @milesd.5602 Год назад

    fix it

  • @ryder6070
    @ryder6070 2 года назад +1

    This video should be a single question in a blog......Hours on the water Captain, not the computer. Proclaim your status as "adult onset boater" lead with the truth, stay in your scope, etc.... Seems like your learning from the comment section. You need more information than you can give on this subject. Experienced waterman unsubscribbed, now going out fishing for the eve. Be safe, use that thinker up their. don't forget to bring a towel

    • @WayneTheBoatGuy
      @WayneTheBoatGuy  2 года назад

      It was 35 degrees F here when I made this video. I'm jealous that you're getting to go out on your boat, but I'm not really sure why you're upset with this video.