Kahr PM9 vs Ruger LC9
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Two very interesting and popular small 9mm pistols are compared and contrasted.
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I handled the Kahr P9 today at a local gun store; It was very nice. They have a used one for sale and it fits my hand like a glove. I have small hands and it is nice to finally find a 9mm thats not to big and not to small and the controls are all easy to use.
Kahr triggers are great! Just picked up a used PM40 with a ton of extras cheap and the thing looks brand new and the trigger is as smooth as butter! 👍🏻
Thanks for all of your fine videos, Mr. Hickok. I have owned the all black pm9 for several years now. It is very accurate and I never have had any misfeeds. Kahr has now come out with a less expensive pm model, with the only difference being that the barrel has lands and grooves instead of the more expensive polygonal pm barrel.
"Most people have an average sized hand" haha he's the best, love his commentary
Hickok's videos are so addictive.
I really want the PM9. It just looks like a great quality firearm. Thanks Hickok45 for your videos. They are amazing for research before purchase.
By far, hickock45 is my favorite on RUclips
I just went through a similar comparison and i did pick the PM9, even though it is more costly. Just felt it was a better overall product, although the LC9 is good too. If cost is a concern on the PM9, get the CM9, the cheaper brother.
Only thing I can add to this is that I have had a Kahr PM9 for years, and to date I haven't had a single failure of any kind. Even during the break-in period I was told to expect it to be unreliable until 100-200rnds, but never a problem once. I don't shoot it as accurately as my big 9mms like my Beretta 92FS Brigadier, but I love how it always just works which makes me feel safe and the form factor is really nice and tiny so is comfortable to wear while still firing a "good enough" caliber to get the job done.
+DumbDuck44 Ditto, I love my Kahr PM9
Same here. Had it forever and still like new
I had the cm9 and sold it to pay a power bill. I loved it's carry capability and can't believe how accurate these micro guns are. Now that I have caught up on bills my next purchase will be a cm40. I can't get over my bias to own a .380 I just don't like or trust the caliber to save a life.
My LCP naturally led me to the LC9. Both awesome guns that I regulary carry off-duty during summer months when wearing shorts are more common.
Thanks for the review. I have just received my CCW and prefer to pocket carry initially. The LC9 has been the prime contender for the part. A friend of mine has several hand guns and this is one of them. This has been a good video. You do great work!
"Most people have an average sized hand"
I almost lost my shit
I did, hahha
Just picked up the LC9S it doesn't have the long trigger pull and it's very smooth. I was able to compare both the LC9 and the LC9S at the shop and I immediately took to the LC9S with my big paws. The Striker fire is a big improvement over the hammer fire in my opinion and makes the LC9S so much more comfortable to handle then the LC9.
dam it i just bought a new lc9 today not knowing about the lc9s existance.
I watched all of your Ruger LC9 videos and ended up purchasing one today based on your reviews, comments, as well as some of the comments of your viewers in regards to their LC9. Thank you for taking the time to help educate fellow shooters and thank you for your non biased reviews. Keep up the great work!
Superb camera work by John as always. I especially liked the panoramic shots when all four were flat on the table. I like my Ruger LCP especially to carry in hot weather and it is always fun to watch it hit the gong with a bullet. I think of mine as strictly a 5 yard or less weapon.
I always enjoy your informative videos. You have helped me make another informed selection. Thanks for all of your detailed information and humor.
I have a ruger 22. rifle that my Great Grandpa gifted to me before he passed away :(
You would have liked him Hickok he was a Competition shooter as well.He left me and my Dad a great collection of firearms.
@Gungrave123 , It's not the actual trigger, but it's definitely part of the "action" when you're firing a round. In every pistol I've fired, the striker-fired guns affect the way the trigger action seems to operate, in that all my striker-fired experience tells me that the trigger is going to break at a more convenient point for me.
Foreign countries, like California and Massachusetts. Haha. I thought those might be coming. I love it, as usual, sir.
And very nice review/comparison of the guns.
There is also a Ruger factory 9 rd mag for the LC9. It doesn't come with the gun at original purchase, but can be purchased separately from Ruger. Not only gives you additional rounds, but also provides a longer grip to grab, which I like. (There is an X-grip product that fills the gap between the gun butt and bottom of the longer mag much like you find with many extended mags for other guns). When I carry my LC9, I carry 9+1.
i really appreciate these comparison videos, thanks hickok :)
I love my PM9!! i stopped counting rounds at 750 rounds and i have had no problems at all!! (knock on wood of course!!!) Great carry gun
Good vid. Love looking back through some of Hickok's older video's & learning while I'm there. Much appreciation for Hickok45 & his son, John! Keep up the great job!
That deadpan humor really got me LOL
This wife LOVES your videos, Hickok! We just bought our husband/wife carry guns~the S&W M&P .40c for him, and the LC9 for me. Luckily, both are comfortable for me to shoot. But, the LC9 goes better with my wardrobe :)
Awesome demonstration on both compact handguns.
I made my first handgun purchase today. The Khar 9mm got my attention. It's been a while since I watched your videos. As a foreigner from the country of California I love your sarcasm.. 😂😂😂 I'll try not to worry about those holsters that hide in the pocket...
@MarksmanCentral, No Kahr I've held feels better, or would likely shoot better, than a Glock. It's just that if you want something smaller than the Glock26 or G27, the Kahr does a pretty good job of it, at least until Glock comes forward and offers something smaller.
Honest and unbiased review. Great job.
Not a fan of Ruger, except their .22 handguns. P85 9mm was my first handgun purchase over 30 years ago. Sold it and got a Colt M1991A1 .45, which I still own.
i'm from NH and i love the fact so many manufacturers are based right around here. Sig, Ruger, S&W, even kahr. gotta love New England :D
EXCEPT FOR MA lol
i love how fair hickok is with each gun
I just purchased the LC9 this morning for a great price. Shot 100 rounds with no misfires/misloads. It's a really enjoyable subcompact. Btw, my decision to buy was very much based on your review of the firearm. Thanks for the help!
Hey now. I live in Massachusetts. We have 400k people with Carry Permits. Which means concealed. Even though there is NO law banning open carry, it is strongly advised that you don't open carry. If someone gets "scared" and calls the cops, you'll probably have your license taken away and maybe arrested for "brandishing". But we can carry anywhere at anytime. Except schools and federal buildings.
Sounds accurate, fellow Masshole here.
I purchased the LC9 and hope to modify the trigger pull with the Galloway 35% shorter stroke trigger bar. I think the Kahr is a fine gun, but expensive and I like to have the thumb safety on my pistols.
I think we need to see more Kahr pistols on here.
I enjoy your reviews, very real world and subjective. I was considering a PF9 or LC9 and wathched your video. I'm now considering the PM9.
I bought my Ruger LC9 for $370
MSRP on the Kahr PM9 is $786
I think the appropriate title should be; "2 Ruger LC9s, or 1 Kahr PM9"
You would even have $46 left over and could get another magazine since both guns only ship with one, and a box of 50 9mm bullets.
Seems like a really easy choice for me.
Love all the videos Hickok45, thank you for sharing your knowledge with the gun community and beyond.
Please keep up the good work.
Thanks again.
Thank you for your fun and informative videos.
A secret to that trigger, loop your finger in to the second knuckle when firing. A steel guiderod helps too.
Hey mr. Hickock i bought a kahr pm9 about 2 months ago i have about 2,000 rounds threw it with no problems at all it is my ccw i live in mass after watchin ur videos on it and seen that it was ur ccw i had to try it out thank
Got to admit, I was genuinely surprised how badly the Kahr was printing through the pocket, in the pocket holster. Mostly the completely square slide.
I'm now looking for a back up and you just gave me more choices!
Great video, as always, excellent comparison and you answered all my questions. Off to buy my new LC9 for daily carry. Thanks, Rob
people are obsessed with ruger because ruger is one of the best gun manufacturers ever. period. my absolute favorite gun is the new model blackhawk. so many people like ruger because a lot of people have good taste.
@EyeSmart , I've not experienced any misfires or malfunctions with this one yet.
Great comparison demonstration.
My dad's carry gun is a Kahr PM9. Amazing guns. World's thinnest 9mm.
I really appreciate all your videos! Really like all the comparisons. I've got a SCCY CPX-2 ordered and on the way. As far as I've seen, you haven't reviewed this new American made 10 shot 9mm. Would love to see you review it!
No video is complete without the gong ringing. Too cool!
What a good video! I did not see this untill I already bought my LC9. You confermed to me that I made a good choice.I want you to no that people like you that make good down to earth videos such as this one are a great help to people like me with limited knowledge on the subject. Life is good! Toby from Indiana.
PM9/CM9 is my vote. Smaller means you don't have an excuse not to carry it!!
Agree. I just couldn't get used to that 99 mile long, and hard and gritty pull.
Every time you say "you have homework to do," I seriously feel like I am obligated to go through every video you have lol. Love your channel.
i got my lc9 today, took it out to break it in, about 100 rounds or so, i def understand the trigger pull issue but since this is going to be my everyday carry, i will fine tune my finger for that on the range, i love the videos keep up the great work
I make custom fit holsters, and have the chance to handle a wide variety of pistols. Recently I made holsters for both a p9 and a p45 (same customer) . Those Khars have the smoothest trigger I have ever felt, bar none.
last PM shot at 16+ minutes, impressive, dead center. Thanks Hickock
That comment "I think they're both garbage", really got me laughing XD
For those who don't like the trigger, you could modify the trigger post very easily so that it breaks much earlier and functions smoother. Just throwing that out there and people actually sell the parts online to do this.
We can carry in Massachusetts with a license and the Kahr is Mass compliant.
Thanks for pointing out the Ruger's trigger breaks further back than the Kahr. Like you I prefer the Karh's trigger and find it to be a bit more compact then the Ruger LC9.
Very helpful. Bought the Kahr because, THAT'S ALL THEY HAD LEFT in that config and even IT was on consignment. Will be my brides first gun. I'm concerned the recoil might be too much for her. I'm finding that the slide is hard to rack. Strong spring. I'll train her to carry the DAO with one in the pipe but, I'd like her to always rack to clear when handling so, I'm afraid it might not get carried and be a waste of dough. This was helpful though. Thanks
Amazing that you shot the gong from so far away. I have the LC9 w/ crimson trace laser grips but have not shot it yet. I think I'll get out to the range to give it a go. Thanx for sharing.
Random post; you may have heard similar comments before so ignore it if it's old news:
I recommend a Panasonic HDC-TM900k with a shotgun microphone for your reviews.
These look very nice but the panasonic is pretty incredible. You can find youtube samples of the quality. Happy shooting.
Love the videos man. Keep doing what you do. And love the land! Beautiful property.
Nice vid! I was interested in a ruger since I own a couple rugers and they have always done right by me. I also have a kahr cw45 which is the more inexpensive version of the kahr p45 pistol. The cw45 is about the same size as the pm9, and I love it. I might have to go pick up the pm9 though because I am really diggin' these little toys. Thanks for the great vids!
You can`t compare a pm9 to a lc9 because the ruger lc9 is crap. I bought and sold it as fast as i could. Kahr all the way
Like comparing a Fiero (LC9) to a Ferrari (PM9).
ruger got the 45s beat. I fired a kahr 45 one time, and handed it back to the owner.. that's all it took for me to stay with my rugers....
Good call. Kahr is so much better
Hickok, You probably already know this, but Kahr recently released the CM9 which is the lower end model of the PM9, kind of like the CW9 and it is about the same price as the Ruger LC9 or cheaper. I still have my heart set on a blackened Kahr PM9 though. Hopefully I will be getting it soon.
Great video by the way. A fair comparison. You had me thinking about the LC9 for a minute, but I remembered the CM9 is out there now
Great video, as usual. That said I would have liked to have heard your thoughts on the feel of each gun. For instance, felt recoil, pushy vs. snappy, general comfort, etc. If you have any thoughts I would love to read them. Thanks for the channel!
Carry with confidence if you do get the LC9. I have been carrying mine since February and absolutely love it. It's the perfect compromise between size and power. I forget it's there and when I remember, I don't feel underpowered, especially with a spare mag in my back pocket. The thumb safety hasn't been engaged since the day I got it, on purpose or on accident. You own't even notice it's there. The LCI actually has came in handy though and I removed the mag d/c safety myself. Love it though!
Glad to see you put some rounds on the gong. Proof that you can get out there even with a "pocket" gun.
"You people in foreign countries where carry is not an option....California, Massachusetts...." That is more true than most people know.
Shield is a FANTASTIC gun IF you can get it. 6 month wait right now at most gun stores. Or pay over list at Gun Broker. I ended up getting the 9c and love this weapon!
I love your videos man so knowledgable and your on property range is goals especially for a coloradan
Get the Galloway transfer bar and hammer for the Ruger.That will fix the trigger right up.Breaks further forward and resets further back.Good video.I'm looking at the LC9 for carry.I'm not wild about how "lawyered up" it is though (safeties).
when you picked up the P-380, my lord, you made it look like a diddy litle gun. it was so funny.
i think that may have moved me from the P-380 onto the PM9
Hello Ruger. Just bought the LC9. After doing a lot of research including watching all of Hickok45's videos on this pistol. My friend has the pm9 and although it's a great gun I didn't like the sights and the trigger on it. Love the sights on the lc9 and the trigger (for my taste, is better than the Kahr. I have large hands...Not monster hands like Mr. Hickok.
Put a Pachmayr grip on the LC9. You'll love it, especially if you have larger hands
damn it hickok, you ALMOST KILLED ME! I was sipping a soda and getting out of my chair when I heard "... their both garbage!" I did a double take, slipped and fell, nearly split my head open and drowned in my own soda!
@GoldenRing1989 , I've never really worn a watch much in my life. I've carried a pocket watch at times, and now I just use my cell phone for a time piece. Either that or I just use the position of the sun. :-)
I really can't compare, because I only have the LC9 at the moment. But I do know that the LC9 is an awesome CCW! I also use the the De Sãntis leather IWB holster for sub-compact carry. I have yet find a more comfortable holster for the LC9. Although I'm not a fan of leather holsters, I guess this one is growing on me.
Thanks Hickok, and keep up the great work and support for our constitutional rights!!!
I had a PM40, and it was a real piece. I took loss, and traded it in for a Glock 26. Couldn't be happier with the Glock.
You know what they say about big hands and big feet-
big gloves, big shoes.
Thanks for the comparo. I am looking for a pocket 9 close to LCP size, the Kahr is close.
I have a Ruger LC9 and carry it in my pocket. My mags have the mag finger extension, and it catches when the pistol is being removed from my pocket. I prefer pocket carry because it's more comfortable and more concealable. The LCP, although a .380 caliber, is easier to remove from the pocket even with the mag finger extension.
Just to set the record straight, folks from Massachusetts can carry concealed! (I live there and have a permit for it.) Love the video! Looking at getting myself an LC9 pretty soon.
Hey Hickok, I'm a Ruger fan too. Lol. They are great firearms and well priced. Thanks for a great video.
bought all 4 kept the Kahrs. the triggers respond the best to a little work. If ya gotta pull it that far it might as well be enjoyable.
Another great Vid sir...and John's camera work gets better every time.
Nice range!!! Good infomative video!!
I got a good chuckle out of that line
Hickok45: In my eyes you are and always will be an excellent shooter. Watching you use these guns in the way they were intended; "cold turkey", has made up my mind. The Kahr (in. 45 ACP) will be the next CCW firearm that I purchase. Thank you for your reviews!
P.S. you are only selling out if you loose passion for what you do. Good luck with that!
LOVE the LC9....great pistol!
Nice Comparison Hickok...Kahr just recently came out with the CM9 at about $425-$450, a low cost PM9.
have both ruger and not impressed with the double trigger, I believe a compact should have a hair trigger , personal preferences, good video
"Most people have an average sized hand." -hickok45 You're like Yogi Berra man!
Got the wife the LC9 with laser. Fits her well but haven't shot it yet, waiting for better weather. Thanks Hickok good review.
I'm from Arizona and we carry at will Monday I may carry the Glock 42 , Tuesday the LC 9 , Wednesday the Mk 40 , Thursday the sig Sauer 226 40 and Friday the sig Sauer 1911 it's always what mood I'm in . Today is sat I'm gonna carry my glock 19.
Just what I was looking for - super video! Thanks for your very thorough insightful work!
Looks like Hickok could just about fit some of those little guns in his palm.