2245 Generating With DIY Magneto And Electrohydrodynamics
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- Опубликовано: 16 мар 2024
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Back when I was small lad, my dad helped build your first example for one my cousins' science fair project. LOL.
That's awesome a way of saying those unkles we had to have lol no matter if dad doesn't like them or he himself isn't even home mostly and the unkle you wish you had as a dad
As nafarious as he might he has a sense of humour at least
I like the setup with a separate view of the meter.
Cant help but see the Egyptian light bulb in your final design. Nice.
Interesting way to get power from the FLAME, Robert !!!!!!!!!!!!! 😀😀😀😀
Love watching your videos, always learn something new, that was very neat👍👍👍
in the early 1980's, the russians built a coal burning power station. they added a magnitic hydrodynamic generator to the plant as a 'topping' plant to increase the thermial efficiency. they passed preheated the intake air in the main furnace to make the firnace air a plasma. it eas passed through the MHD at high speeds and then into the steam boiler. The steam power plant was 38% thermally efficient. the totally plant efficiency was in the high 50's%. The concept was presented to us by our thermodynamics professor. How he knewabout it I am unsure, but, I became aware the in the late 1950's 0r early 1960's, he worked at (he said) Calder Hall in Cumbrier. However, I suspect he worked on the other side of the river at Windscales. In September 1962, one of the two reactors at Windscales caught fire (because it was made of graphite - the moderiator) as was the RBMK3000 reactors at Chernobyl and elswhere in the USSR (see the simularities of history repeating). He did his Research Masters of Mechanical Engineering on the emercency cooling of nuclear reactors using liquid metals. in 1963. As both facilities were primarilary used to manufacture plutonium (a function that the RBMK 300 reactors could also perform) for the British Bomb Programme. One month later the Russians had a similar sized nuclear accident. All these facilities were highly top secrect. As such, I suspect my Professor had been previ to top secrect intel on what the Russians were up to and became aware for the MHD project from those sources. He was always cautious on what he told us as I suspect he was still bound by the 50 year rule on offical secrets. The true nature of the Windscale incident was revelled in an BBC Horizons Televisions Programme in 1992. I never had to opportunity to speak with him after leaving University to ask him what and where he was really working on.
maybe try building a horseshoe electro - magnet on/in a rocket stove. narrow the exhaust for the ends of the magnet to be closer where the flames are traveling up between them.
Cool that you included the 220 ohm load and the voltage across it. It really does show a promosing future for this type of power generation.
Great video again Rob, thanks. Something to keep in mind for the electrostatic case, very likely with the conductive "air" that the changing field (possibly changing capacitance, I haven't fleshed it all out in my head yet) is drawing current off the HV bias. To determine your total net, the power going into the HV supply needs to be accounted for. By guess is that more power is going into the supply to maintain the high voltage. Also guessing you still come out ahead as the main energy is coming from the moving gas/plasma.
I really like your content.
Very cool, I wonder what the ROI would be for adding something like this onto a stationary generator, could the heat energy in the exhaust put enough energy into some additive to make a plasma.
I suppose it depends of how much or how quickly a rise in temperature in the less amount of volume as capacity for whatever it to get to the plasma stages and why That is required for where
In households probably not something that most would need
A industrial area
Best use a different types of getting generation in site and losing the resistance in the lines for surely a large large load used for its capacity
Probably cheaper for generation rates per fuel other than paying for service or supply that's has higher resistance to get it there from its source
I've been attempting use a magnetic field to separate materials of differing density and magnetic susceptibility. The apparatus has proven to be somewhat tricky for a DIY project.
I've got the 3mm wide inside dimension "aquarium" built. Now playing with the magnetic field properties of strength, stationary v moving, attracting v repulsing.
Liquids or solids?
@FieldDay-cj3tv
Solids in liquid.
Specifically gold and copper sludge in a "muddy water" condition. Allowing turbidity to drift down past and through the area of magnetic field. My theory is that with a higher density, and a much less negative magnetic susceptibility, gold should be less affected and pushed aside less than the copper as it settles out of suspension from the liquid carrier.
This should at least increase the ratio of gold to copper in one collection area, and reduce the same ratio in the other. The sludge is obtained through a nacient chlorine reaction created by electrolysis in sodium chloride brine. So very similar particle size for all solids.
@@Vibe77Guy consider fluidized bed-type agitation?
@lokiaverro4196
Agitation is really not the issue. A simple attempt to decant the clear liquid from over the sludge is enough to entrain the top layer of solids. The particles are very fine. The nature of the nacient style reaction assures this. The process must, therefore, attempt as little external agitation as possible. Even the action of drifting out of solution tends to result in 'blooms' at the leading edge of the turbidity induced current. This may require multiple lines of magnetic field areas to contain the dispersion top and bottom. These magnetic field areas are going to end up being at a fairly steep angle relative to the direction of gravity. The forces between the magnetic field and the particles are very small. More powerful magnets, or possibly a spinning field, may be required.
@@Vibe77Guy - Your experiments sound very interesting. Do you have any video or images that you can share?
Wouldn't at least some part of the energy you see generated come from the high voltage device that produces the electric field? By using a blow torch you ionising the air and in the presence of the 20kV field surely some small current starts to flow between the two steel plates. The copper thingys simple serve as current collectors. Am I badly wrong?
I was asking myself the same. You have to subtract the consumption of the HV thing from the result...
Very interesting! Thanks for demonstrating that!
Great video. Fluid velocity plays a big part in MHD generation. The diverging ducts you see on plasma mhd generators create supersonic flow, provided a sufficient pressure difference between inlet and outlet.
Excellent, I can see why you're laughing with excitement during these exciting experiments
it is just so cool mate lol
Thank you Sir Robert!
What is a nerd, he is but a peculiar and free thinking scientist?
I remember the schematics I read in the 90s for a MHD generator referenced carbon rods from a carbon-arc light as the electrodes 🤔
interesting stuff indeed.
just imagining this in the chimney portion of a rocket stove 🤔🤔
This is always one of the most interesting channels. I'm not sure about the practical application of using a flame, as a flame source tends to represent a high cost (money and materials) source of electricity. Fluid running in a loop might function better? But sticking with plasma for a moment, where might we incorporate electrical power generation, and would it make sense to do do? For example, a wood burning rocket style stove into a sand battery? Incorporate the power gen into the battery? But the battery may only need firing for 20-30 minutes per day, once a day, so not really worth a handful of watts of power? Maybe a detachable sleeveapparatus separate from sand battery, such that the sleeve could be reused on multiple sand batteries? This maybe viable if there's a central firing for 8-10 batteries lasting several hours per day each evening... Other than flame for heating or cooking, I'm not sure where else to apply this for people struggling to meet power generation in a rural/low tech area. In industrial manufacturing or refinement, at-scale thermal capture and redistribution is already viable in some situations, so maybe not a huge leap to recspture some of the energy as electricity as well. Thenexpected energy cost of apparatus production and installation and removal must be compared with the power generated over the lifespan of the components and maintenance costs. Does it still make sense to reclaim power this way? Just trying to think of application scenarios.
Imagin a burn box for a fireplace set up this way . Then a “ brick battery “ chimney.
I heard from the sound that those 125mm square plates are way thicker than 1mm!
Very interesting. I wonder if the load increases on the power supply when the resistor is adding a load on the generator side.
Don't forget Rob, Nerds rule!
out of interest what pole was facing into the pipe ?
This reminds me of a Lord Kelvin thunderstorm generator but instead of drops of water we use molecules of gas
You mentioned plasma. Is this a proposed method for capturing the energy in a tokamak reactor?
the most interesting thing is why yamamoto used DC MHD which is useless due to electrolosys instead of AC MHD which they calculated would do 100knots
The field is moving at the same rate as the wire. Zero current. Must move opposite of the field.
Hi Robert great Video.
One question, is it possible to use triboelectricity for the electrostatic field or would it not work?
it would work mate
That is fun.
it certainly is!
20 KV ......... Yup, that is exciting!
Especially if it is my body near it! ;o)
lol - yup! nano amps though - even so it stings lol
Have you had chance to look at the LPD clean energy generation using lunar tidal rise and the bladder turbine, and my idea to include possible hydrogen enhancement? 🤔🙌✌️🙏...
Can you share this with the rest of us too?
@@christopherd.winnan8701 search LPD clean energy, think he's doing a demonstration soon 🤔 diagrams on the website show how it's made and how it works 🙌✌️🙏
yup lol !
You might like the small portable electrostatic steam generator by Armstrong just put a small fire under it and bingo hivoltage static .where you live there's Shure to be a inventors museum. Camp fire electric while making tea and noodles. Charge your cellphone way to high 💥
Would that work on the exhaust pipe of a car?
Did he say the plates were 1mm thick? Same with the wire, seems think for 2.5 mm.
what happens if you run say a wimshurst machine in a strong magnetic field. is the (physically) moving static charges equivalent to electric current. please forgive an 'i-don't-understand-the-concepts' question
I started this video feeling really intelligent--waving a wire between magnets makes ELECTRICITY! YES!--by the halfway mark I realized I was the dumbest person in the room.
Ionic...current? PLASMA?
Hello. I need your help on something. How can I reach you?
Rob is probably to busy to reply to individual inquiries. Why not take this opportunity to pick the brains of his half a million subscribers instead? This is what the comments section was made for!
I know you're busy. I'm working on a project and is it okay to ask this in the comments section?
@@snhdigital- Show us your project, and we will be happy to help!
Does anybody know if Kinetic 7 portable stove is a real product. Worth a look if real..
Ad is deceptively titled.
First to notice the spelling mistake
Sorry missed I was more try to understand how he was trying to explain it not so much the details I suppose
Is it the distinction in different ways of saying it or the language used to formulate an idea of understanding even it it's not specific in it way appraisal in approach?
Make it manifest and so others can work it out, or otherwise not something others want too understand even whenever you know they don't but say what you know they won't pay attention to
@@FieldDay-cj3tv Noticed before I watched the video, then watched the video.
Wow