2020 VS 2021 SUPRA..(Which one should you buy?)

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  • Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
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  • @ThicWhips
    @ThicWhips  3 года назад +39

    One correction: I misspoke on the oil consumption thread poll. It’s the opposite of what I stated: 45% have reported that they DO NOT have the issue while 21% of people say that they do. My bad on the mixup! Thanks for watching
    Update: when the 2021 ecu does become tunable I will make an update video as well so you all know. LINK TO MY SUPRA BUILD SHEET: tinyurl.com/2wfc3632
    MODIFICATIONS FROM ALL OF MY BUILDS: www.thicwhips.com
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    • @jmccarsnmore1025
      @jmccarsnmore1025 3 года назад

      If you can swap the 2021 head to the 2020 block, why not swapping the 2020 pistons to the 2021 block?? What if the 2020 ECU could also be swapped to the 2021??

    • @ThicWhips
      @ThicWhips  3 года назад

      Well, I think for starters all of these parts you are talking about are going to cost a lot right now because these cars are very new. But furthermore, the amount of work any of that would take I don’t think is really worth it. When you can just buy the one that has zero issues from the Jump and is tunable. Not to mention, the 2021s wound have voided warranties left and right if you began pulling engines apart. I don’t think the head swap is worth it in general but who knows

    • @jmccarsnmore1025
      @jmccarsnmore1025 3 года назад

      @@ThicWhips For sure bro. But since you mentioned the head swapping, I went I little bit farther with the part swapping 😂 In all honestly, getting new pistons and rings will probably be cheaper than getting a whole engine head, imo.
      And, do you think Toyota will release a Supra with the S58 engine??

    • @ThicWhips
      @ThicWhips  3 года назад

      I honestly don’t know, I’ve heard the rumors but we all know how that goes. I would love to see it though, s58 is just insane

    • @jmccarsnmore1025
      @jmccarsnmore1025 3 года назад

      @@ThicWhips That would be amazing, and I can’t wait to see it, cause I don’t think I could afford it!! 😂

  • @_M3NACE_
    @_M3NACE_ 3 года назад +117

    All the ECU’s crack eventually

    • @jasin1441
      @jasin1441 3 года назад +6

      Or we change them out for stand-alones

    • @ahunnidlionsinhim
      @ahunnidlionsinhim 2 года назад +15

      why did I read this in Thanos' voice

    • @jasin1441
      @jasin1441 2 года назад +7

      @@ahunnidlionsinhim because I'm actually Thanos

    • @batman-telephoneman5479
      @batman-telephoneman5479 2 года назад

      @@jasin1441 because you are all man-child's and should cringe at it.

    • @jeffsteyn7174
      @jeffsteyn7174 2 года назад

      No. This isn't Netflix.

  • @josephcarver71
    @josephcarver71 3 года назад +39

    I have the 2021 A91 Refraction Blue Edition. 23,000 miles on it. No oil consumption issues. Eventuri intake and Engine cover, FTP Charge Pipe, CG Downpipe and plenty of carbon fiber inside and out. Only thing left until tune is the catback. That will be soon. Spoke with someone inside Titan Motorsports and it would appear that they are getting very very close to cracking the 2021 ECU and told me to expect a big announcement soon. My ECU build date is 6/1/2020. I provided my CAL ID and from what I have been told by Speed Industry it can not be unlocked yet. Thanks for the ECU cf cover info.....been looking for that. One issue that I have identified is the abnormal inside wear of my front tires.....I know ....I know...and yes I have already taken it in to the best wheel and tire place in Columbus, Ohio. Great people do a great job and really know their stuff. After evaluation the wheels tires and alignment. They found no issues except marked inside wear of those front. They said no way to make any adjustments at this time until Toyota comes up with a solution. Took this to Toyota and of course they just threw up their hands......no surprise there. Really love this car but don't really want to replace tires so frequently because of this. So here's my take on this.....Yes the 2021 will get unlocked and be turnable...probably sooner than many think and yes the tuned 2021 will ultimately make more power than the 2020.....I am guessing at least 50 more whp......so can you wait? Well I can. I am a physician who watched all of his friends buy homes, cars, travel etc. while I was starving and up to $100,000 in debt....back then we called it deferred gratification.....it worked fine for me then considering where I am at these days and will work just as well with the 2021 Supra. I really do appreciate your balanced approach to things and look forward to sharing with you. Anyone else with the tire wear issues?

    • @topzki47
      @topzki47 2 года назад +2

      Hey man how’s the reliability of your Supra so far? Thinking about getting but want to go brand new instead of used 2020

    • @josephcarver71
      @josephcarver71 2 года назад +7

      @@topzki47 It is exceptionally reliable. I have no oil consumption issues at all and I have 37,000 miles on it at this time. Soon will get garaged for weekend only driving. I did break it in properly and I strongly suspect the oil consumption issues are related to those who just can't wait...and don't correctly break it in....take the plunge you will not regret it. Good luck

    • @topzki47
      @topzki47 2 года назад +5

      @@josephcarver71 sounds good man 37k miles is alot. even with the Z coming i still prefer how the supra looks!

    • @steventemple2514
      @steventemple2514 2 года назад

      How did you go about your break in period? Did you follow manufacture recommended? I’ve read that you don’t want to baby it but you you also don’t want to beat on it. ex. WOT from 2k-4.5k. Keeping it in that recommend rev range but also making sure you’re getting into boost.

    • @ronin120
      @ronin120 2 года назад +3

      mind if I ask how old you are? Been thinking about the Supra or M2 (I like both cars...have yet to test drive either one...no surpas or M2s in my area). I am 45 and am digging the size of the Supra, but worry I may look too old for the car if that makes sense? Do you think it is a younger person's car? Similar to the CLA45 AMG (younger buyer) as opposed to the C63 AMG (older buyer)?

  • @ChokolateSushi23
    @ChokolateSushi23 3 года назад +33

    I remember when the R35 GT-Rs ecu was “uncrackable” when they first came out, and they cracked it pretty quickly. The 21 Supra’s ecu will be cracked in time. Personally I don’t think that should be a deterrent for somebody. I feel like the upgrades the 21 has would be worth it

  • @TStrait21
    @TStrait21 3 года назад +29

    Jon your content and delivery has gotten so good man. Harder to appreciate when you see it happen slowly over time but it's crazy when compared to your videos from two plus years ago

  • @willanderson5366
    @willanderson5366 3 года назад +16

    Thanks for this! I actually bought the '21 3.0 Premium, but without the intention of tuning. I've already got my scars of perpetually broken racecars. :P But I think you keep a really balanced opinion and deliver a lot of good info in here!

  • @HayateV3
    @HayateV3 3 года назад +1

    I know this may not really matter, but YOU are the one who convinced me to look more into the MK5 Supra. After watching some of your videos, I was set on test driving one. The day of the test drive, one appeared in my garage. I have a 2021. I’ll tune it after the warranty is up (with the new crack) but until then I’m just here to enjoy her.

  • @Joolz1982
    @Joolz1982 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for engine screen shot. We cannot get the 2021 GR Supra in the U.K sadly at the moment, so will get a 2020 also those oil burning issues on 2021 concern me, but seems erratic between one 2021 car and another it does mention oil burning in the Owners manual though someone has shown. BMW usually oil burn generally though right as you said.

  • @henryz9988
    @henryz9988 3 года назад

    One of the best videos I've seen from A90 Supra owners, very good talk. Thanks bro.

  • @beastleontv7595
    @beastleontv7595 3 года назад

    has become my fav channel over the last few days loving it

  • @ayyyman_
    @ayyyman_ 3 года назад +3

    This is really helpful! I'm planning on getting a Supra very soon. Just waiting for the right deal

    • @peterr5243
      @peterr5243 3 года назад

      Can I ask u how much u putting down and monthly payments u plan to get in looking to get one as well

    • @njskater360
      @njskater360 3 года назад

      @@peterr5243 Next year I'm going to be in the market again. Looking at a supra and GTR R35. If I do pick a supra would be 2020. I'll be putting down 10k-15k depends on the deal I get on the supra.

  • @danielclark1003
    @danielclark1003 3 года назад +3

    Caught the mod bug back in 95, even Valtrex can't get rid of it ... gr8 content ... best looking BMW out there !

  • @thebritish910
    @thebritish910 3 года назад

    Lol, speed limit 35 sign in the opening sequence haha. Another great video sir, thank you!

  • @Kai240i
    @Kai240i 3 года назад +2

    I have a 2017 m240i 6 port exhaust manifold 1st gen b58 with 32k miles mhd stage 2. I put in 7 liter of 0w30 oil in, drove and race for 1 whole year 4k miles later, change the oil and still 7 liter of relatively clean oil came out. Not even 1 pint of oil was consumed, amazing!!! I think just the new 2021 supra having that issue, probably due to their new piston rings design or just a bad batch of rings and pistons.

  • @jvb6961
    @jvb6961 3 года назад +13

    The new fenders look too good 🔥🔥

  • @godrive6902
    @godrive6902 3 года назад

    I loved this video! Well put together

  • @derwinjax
    @derwinjax 3 года назад

    Nice ride. What wheel and tire size are you running. I see too many quickly put bigger rims and wafer thin tires. Yours looks great!

  • @Chrisstian111
    @Chrisstian111 3 года назад

    Just a great comparison. Thank you. 😀

  • @jonathanbarrientos9151
    @jonathanbarrientos9151 3 года назад

    I just bought my 21' 3.0 premium in black with the carbon fiber mirror caps and I love it! This video is what convinced me to get it

  • @biggusbestus551
    @biggusbestus551 3 года назад +4

    The 2020 makes sense from the standpoint that less power equals longer engine life. That is for someone that can be happy with the stock engine power of the 2020. I would rather upgrade the suspension and brakes for a starting point anyway. I enjoy a challenging road more than a 1/4 mile race, anyway ...

  • @buqueretrofittinganddetail6224
    @buqueretrofittinganddetail6224 3 года назад

    The sound of your exhaust bro it's epic 👌👌love it

  • @myfavs1972
    @myfavs1972 3 года назад

    Really looking forward to you getting the "pure" and your thoughts.

  • @TheKrumpet69
    @TheKrumpet69 3 года назад +1

    I got lucky and happened to buy an earlier manufactured '21 (built 3/20) and it has no oil consumption issues so far (it is a 3.0 base...so not premium; pricing on the base model was very lucrative...well under 50k in the winter for a brand new base 3.0)... I've been dailying mine and its killin me... 6k miles and I got it in Feb.

    • @mvaldez5626
      @mvaldez5626 2 года назад

      Is it still pretty bad ass? I m looking into one

  • @ronin120
    @ronin120 2 года назад +2

    I have never modded a car before so the 2021/22 would be fine for me. I would like to make some cosmetic mods (wheels, tint, splitters, and such), and maybe some bolt items such as charge pipe, intake, and any other preventative items. I already know the car is pretty fast stock so not too worried about that. Side note, I discovered your change about 4 days ago and have enjoyed your M2 and Supra builds. I am actually trying to decide between the two myself. If you had to chose one, which did you enjoy driving and owning more?

  • @turqazo
    @turqazo 3 года назад

    Just subscribed ,great video on info.✊

  • @skywalk3x
    @skywalk3x 3 года назад +2

    I have a 2021 Supra got it tuned through Ecutek and have had no issues with the oil consumption. I had to get it bench unlocked and it’s a crazy whip 😉

  • @willymahmoud3373
    @willymahmoud3373 3 года назад

    Love your vids bro, awesome car keep killing it 👍🏻

  • @lIlIllll1
    @lIlIllll1 3 года назад

    For like the first 15 min I thought that hoodie was pure white LOL! Nice hoodie bro!

  • @senseofstile
    @senseofstile 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the info. It looks like a great car. I have read somewhere that there is no oil dipstick. Is that true?

    • @anthonyschluter8531
      @anthonyschluter8531 3 года назад

      No dip stick… that’s true. No BMW engine has a dipstick anymore.

    • @senseofstile
      @senseofstile 3 года назад

      @@anthonyschluter8531 That is a bad decision on their part. If something occurs with the engine, the first thing you do is look at the oil or also smell the oil. Also you can see if there is a possibility it could be overfilled. The really bad scenario is a shop might say they changed the oil but, didn't. You can't check the dipstick to verify. Or perhaps they made an
      honest mistake and "thought" they changed the oil. Again this creates a big problem. Without
      a dipstick, none of that troubleshooting can occur. Some people claim BMW are just disposable limited use autos. I guess without a dipstick, they are probably correct. Just lease one for a year. You shouldn't need a dipstick for that.

  • @lyendba1
    @lyendba1 2 года назад

    Would you go for the jarama race track edition running the lower power to avoid the oil issue n if u wanted to map it asap, or wait and get the 2023 auto? Looking at it 12 months on…

  • @Lilbeefnoodlesoup
    @Lilbeefnoodlesoup 3 года назад +2

    what wheel specs and tires? i love that fitment

  • @steinway325
    @steinway325 3 года назад +1

    As 2020 owners, we are a little biased. but when I was choosing between leftover 2020's vs new 2021, it was a no brainer for me based on all the reasons you mentioned. I actually don't even care to tune, i like the car as is stock. but that could be a selling point for resale. there's no guarantee that 2021s will ever be unlockable.
    And like you said, a modified 2021 isn't going to be WAY faster anyway. Better to just go with a sure thing. To boot, I got my 2020 with zero miles for 52k after TTL, when Toyota was still giving cash rebate

  • @Watcher369
    @Watcher369 3 года назад

    I have a 2020 launch- its not that you have 0 issues, its that you are not consuming like this 2021s. Check your charge pipe, you will have some oil in there from the blowby. Every supra has this issue and catch cans do not help. That being said, I never had to add oil so there is definitely something up with the 2021s

  • @derwinjax
    @derwinjax 3 года назад +4

    800,000 plus hp….lol. That was hilarious! But I completely agree with ya’.

  • @bigcatloverelys6405
    @bigcatloverelys6405 Год назад

    Oil consumption and 4 tires in almost 2 years, those have been my issues. I absolutely love the car. I was actually the first supra gr owner in Washington state, and I loved the attention the car had, well still getting lol.
    Question anybody knows what type of coolant the car uses?

  • @baronv3
    @baronv3 3 года назад +1

    2021 Here. Proper break in with track use after 1200k. 7500k now, no problems so far. My buddy has a jb4 21 with 4k no issues with proper break in. We think the oil issues probably come from beating on the car too early, just our thoughts

    • @ActNasty5
      @ActNasty5 3 года назад

      Still going good? Im so torn, about to to get one very soon

  • @noelnarayan6135
    @noelnarayan6135 2 года назад +2

    Thnx for vid. But just curious on a few things of the 2020 vs 2021.
    How different is the 6 port vs the 2 port? What does that mean for potential power/tq building goals if say the 2021 ecu was cracked and tuneable.
    Will the 2021 have the higher ceiling on the stock motor? Same question goes for other things you briefly mentioned, like the 2021 has different compression and pistons? If so, how will that also play a role in someone trying to get the most out of their stock motor 2020 vs 2021?

    • @TGUNNER777
      @TGUNNER777 2 года назад

      I’d like to know these things as well.

  • @skywalk3x
    @skywalk3x 3 года назад +1

    “May of 2021 and no crack” did try downtown lol

  • @TherealGM4NN
    @TherealGM4NN 3 года назад +1

    Do you keep it sport mode all the time ?

  • @alextasarov1341
    @alextasarov1341 3 года назад

    I didn’t realize there was that much of a difference! The more you know

  • @B58SUPRA
    @B58SUPRA 3 года назад +1

    Excellent job! The locked ECU’s are actually saving the warranties for those that would’ve tuned. I’m seeing consumption @3K, and knew about the issues beforehand, but the draw of that Refraction Blue was too strong to stay away. 😄

    • @ThicWhips
      @ThicWhips  3 года назад

      Haha that’s one way to look at it I suppose

    • @nicholaslong3010
      @nicholaslong3010 3 года назад

      How much are you burning? I got 3,700 and all I added was one liter.

    • @B58SUPRA
      @B58SUPRA 3 года назад

      @@nicholaslong3010 there’s a quarter left on the dipstick display till I get the low oil light.

    • @jkljkl218
      @jkljkl218 3 года назад

      When my friend bought his supra, this came straight from the dealer. If the car is tuned and modified, they said the warranty still covers it. Which surprised me and I kept asking and the man behind the desk said they cover everything. Even if you change your wheels, so long as they're the same spec wheels as the stock ones, they will cover that along with.

  • @_Mathias.
    @_Mathias. 2 года назад

    what for wheels are this on your supra looks sick

  • @303wrx
    @303wrx 3 года назад +3

    I got lucky with the DME in my 2021. It’s tuned with Ecutek and I’m hoping I don’t have any oil consumption issues down the road 😅

    • @DotcomJoe
      @DotcomJoe 3 года назад

      Lucky you. I’m locked 😭

  • @laweeeee
    @laweeeee 3 года назад +1

    Actually the Acura 3.7 V6 and Nissan VQ are known to have oil consumption issues.

  • @dirklenaerts1628
    @dirklenaerts1628 3 года назад

    Hello, now I am confused. You are talking about the date on the ecu to see if it’s tunable. Here in Europe we only get the 340hp version. Even now in 2021 and the next years. The 380 hp version will not come to Europe. So if I buy a 2021 340hp, is it possible it can’t be tuned? Or is it just the 380hp’s ecu that is blocked ?

  • @blacktalonsport1262
    @blacktalonsport1262 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for making this video. I've always wanted to know the difference. I never knew about the DME tune abilities. Are less company's making turbo upgrades for the 6 port heads?

    • @justinwallace3848
      @justinwallace3848 3 года назад

      Without the ability to tune no company’s have made different turbos for the a91 as they would need to flash the DME to setup the car right for the tune

    • @ThicWhips
      @ThicWhips  3 года назад

      What? www.full-race.com/store/borg-warner-efr/manifolds-efr-series/2021-toyota-a91-supra-b58-6-port-top-mount-dual-ewg-turbo-manifold/?adpos=&scid=scplpwoocommerce_gpf_107721&sc_intid=woocommerce_gpf_107721&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIp-r95JLF8AIVMvC1Ch35yAU_EAQYCSABEgIdwPD_BwE

    • @ThicWhips
      @ThicWhips  3 года назад

      There are aftermarket turbo options as well as hybrid turbo options already available for both 2020 and 2021 supras, as well as manifolds. Some of the 2021’s have pre 6/20 ecus meaning they are tunable.

    • @justinwallace3848
      @justinwallace3848 3 года назад

      @@ThicWhips oh, what I had seen was access to turbos but had troubles getting them properly setup to the car bc of the locked dme?

    • @ThicWhips
      @ThicWhips  3 года назад +1

      The majority of 2021’s cannot be tuned. But there are some already running big turbo setups. Just not nearly as many as the 2020s

  • @dylanharty4164
    @dylanharty4164 3 года назад +1

    Awesome video as per usual man! Making me wanna trade my 340i for a 2020 Supra a little more every video

  • @gman1008
    @gman1008 2 года назад

    What happened after your brake recall? Did the dealer reset your ECU and did you lose your tune? I just had my 2020 recall done but I haven’t tuned it yet and the dealer told me the recall didn’t lock the ECU. I have a launch edition and is the same color ext/int as yours. I love the car and I haven’t even moded it yet.
    Yes some of those forum discussions get freakin crazy. I just have to laugh at the ridiculousness to keep myself sane!

  • @CHICOBM
    @CHICOBM 3 года назад

    I know I said it before but I like your attitude bro, always positive no matter what. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @warrencabaniss7216
    @warrencabaniss7216 3 года назад +4

    Bruh oil consumption is normal as hell on a Bimmer, I’d be worried if a Bimmer wasn’t going through 1-2 qts a month 😂

  • @GlenJMorrison
    @GlenJMorrison 3 года назад +2

    Good video bro. I bought mine in August 2019 and considered upgrading until I found out I couldn't tune and the oil issue!! Your mods are sick...well done!!

    • @ronin120
      @ronin120 2 года назад

      his mods are awesome!

  • @JewishLewish
    @JewishLewish 3 года назад +4

    I just bought a 2021 3.0 Premium brand new for 51.8 before taxes.
    Not in a rush to tune at all, but definitely hope its tune-able within the next year or two :)

    • @maxwellkeeling3781
      @maxwellkeeling3781 3 года назад

      I think this will give you time to really enjoy the car and it's current limits. Doing a few bolt-ons here and there if wanted, will give you a better step approach. Having this time will also help eck out any issues that can be covered under warranty!

    • @Southpark124
      @Southpark124 3 года назад

      Damn they scammed you bro, I got my '20 in 2020 for 49.5 w/ taxes.

    • @JewishLewish
      @JewishLewish 3 года назад +6

      @@Southpark124 the market is a bit different now, it was actually a good deal :)

    • @JewishLewish
      @JewishLewish 3 года назад

      @@maxwellkeeling3781 true!

    • @brianb7844
      @brianb7844 3 года назад

      @@JewishLewish Agreed! You got a good deal in the current environment.

  • @RealEstateDad68
    @RealEstateDad68 3 года назад

    Who put on your steering wheel brother and where did you buy it? Link?

  • @readmposter
    @readmposter 3 года назад +8

    I think Bmw has a bad rep more so than anything. I just hit 130k in my N55 powered 335i and have had 0 issues. If you take care of it, it will last. If you neglect it, then like anything it will break. Run a Honda without changing your oil and see what happens....

    • @dannyllerenatv8635
      @dannyllerenatv8635 3 года назад +3

      To be honest man, I think BMW can just be hit or miss sometimes. They get a bad rap, but there are also plenty of them that have lasted long. For every horror story you hear with BMW, there are also BMWs that manage to live long lives. My mother has a 2015 X4 28i with plenty of miles on it and the car has been just fine without any issues. Yeah BMWs can have their issues, but sometimes you get lucky and find one that is hassle free.

    • @stayslidewayz
      @stayslidewayz 3 года назад

      hahah theirs a video on youtube the honda last with no oil or coolant they bullet proof 🤣🤣

    • @Cheiiba
      @Cheiiba 3 года назад +1

      Bad example with the Honda 🤣

  • @wil8115
    @wil8115 2 года назад +1

    Aug 2021, tuner in europe claims to have cracked it, but they only offer flash, send them ecu, they flash based on your mods, then send it back..

  • @aswaggyferret4280
    @aswaggyferret4280 Год назад

    Those wheels look so good on that car 😍

  • @kckuc310
    @kckuc310 3 года назад

    Nice ride!

  • @heh2k
    @heh2k Год назад

    Where'd you get that steering wheel with the thumb impressions? I rented a '21 and it had stitching that was uncomfortable.

  • @peterwho9380
    @peterwho9380 3 года назад +4

    Beautiful car brother and she's done up exactly how I would want my Supra!

  • @dubsrevo
    @dubsrevo 3 года назад +3

    Glad I got my 2020. Still stock and just hit 8k miles, love the car. If 2021's dont get their shit together with Fast 9 coming out the 2020's value might shoot up

    • @ActNasty5
      @ActNasty5 3 года назад

      Lel too bad that movie wasnt even about modding cars😂

  • @tigerbiterhater
    @tigerbiterhater 3 года назад +4

    As an A91 owner in Cali. I’m glad my ECU is lock. I won’t have the urge to try to mod. Plus , Cali smog and BARS no joke out here. It’s not even worth the headaches. Lmao.

    • @bman1668
      @bman1668 2 года назад

      We’ll stock a91 are pretty quick if u ask me the updated 2021 is quick car already runs 11.8 stock

    • @Daniel-ei5si
      @Daniel-ei5si 7 месяцев назад

      what part of cali you from?

  • @caelh3858
    @caelh3858 2 года назад +1

    What’s ur 0-60 & 1/4? Rlly interested in modding a Supra bc of u

  • @chrisc5100
    @chrisc5100 2 года назад

    I would assume an ECU date of 6/17/19 is tuneable correct?
    Or does it have to be between 1/1/20 and 6/1/20

  • @Rippseyy
    @Rippseyy Год назад

    Where did you buy the carbon fiber splitters all around?

  • @desiepintofigueroa
    @desiepintofigueroa 2 года назад

    Can someone help me on the Wheels and tires Specs please!!! Love this fitment for my 2022 🤤💪🏻

  • @mr.whatever2837
    @mr.whatever2837 3 года назад +8

    I wonder if the 2021 Z4 has oil issues too.

    • @foca656
      @foca656 3 года назад +2

      I have the 2020 Z4 M40i and it does.I have 14k in it and before the oil change I had to take it to the dealership for a free quart.I had a 06 M3 before and it took a quart always around 4K miles into the oil change.I am used to BMW engines.

  • @abirmahmud1334
    @abirmahmud1334 3 года назад +4

    U should get some carbon mirror caps next it would look good 👌🏽

  • @suprasport9118
    @suprasport9118 3 года назад

    Is it possible to change the sound in between shifts?

  • @usmceric1
    @usmceric1 2 года назад

    Is this the B58tu? I have a 2020 M340i with the updated motor before they went to the partial hybrid thingy. 6 port manifold.

  • @Cernunn0s90
    @Cernunn0s90 2 года назад +1

    Looks can be as subjective as they want, but the A90 Supra is just objectively god damn beautiful...

  • @dbrr558
    @dbrr558 3 года назад +1

    Fav supra in CLT area

  • @havingfr7098
    @havingfr7098 3 года назад +2

    Needed a oil change at 4000 miles, toyota told me it was a software update 😂😂

  • @fatguyonalittlebike3336
    @fatguyonalittlebike3336 3 года назад

    What are those front quarter panels??

  • @zddy869
    @zddy869 2 года назад

    hey man could you give some of your wheel specs please ?

  • @ricastar2931
    @ricastar2931 Год назад

    What’s your wheel and tire setup

  • @bpi537
    @bpi537 3 года назад

    This is the sickest fitment ive ever seen in a supra. Are you on coils?

  • @PrettyBoiiRob2JZ
    @PrettyBoiiRob2JZ 3 года назад +3

    I don’t mind waiting for my 21 Supra ECU to be cracked, patience is key.

    • @liveinfear707
      @liveinfear707 3 года назад

      Same!💯 ill wait a few months! Save some cash to be ready to get tuned!

    • @skywalk3x
      @skywalk3x 3 года назад

      I have a 2021, Ecutek is the way to go if you want a tune. But get new wider tires ASAP lol. I can’t even floor it below 45mph with traction off

    • @justinwallace3848
      @justinwallace3848 3 года назад

      @@skywalk3x wdym? You can’t tune a 2021, ur just capping in a comment section

    • @ThicWhips
      @ThicWhips  3 года назад +1

      Yes, you can. Some of the 2021s have ecu’s built pre- June of 2020.

    • @skywalk3x
      @skywalk3x 3 года назад +1

      @@justinwallace3848 soooooo I’m capping? Cmon bro no need to lie. Call Speed Industry to see if I’m lying. My tuners name is Jeff and my car is sick. So before you think someone is lying do some research. If the car was built before a certain date is it tunable, including 2021 cars…. No cap bruh

  • @Jbonly21
    @Jbonly21 3 года назад

    Haha, like the S55 and the crank hub issue 🤭.

    • @ThicWhips
      @ThicWhips  3 года назад

      2021 oil consumption issue is nothing like the crank hub issue. Sure, they are both “issues”..but similar? Not one bit

    • @Jbonly21
      @Jbonly21 3 года назад

      @@ThicWhips so is the crank hub really an issue, or is it just blown out off proportion?

    • @ThicWhips
      @ThicWhips  3 года назад +1

      Crank hub is absolutely an issue, more so if you decide to tune

  • @lallen968
    @lallen968 3 года назад

    why you chose this car over the bmw z4? any reason?

  • @Baeza_5.0
    @Baeza_5.0 Год назад

    what website did you use to look at those used 2020 supras

  • @theturkishrider
    @theturkishrider 2 года назад

    whatever you say , whether "high performance" or "german engines" ,filling up oil every 1000 miles is not normal at all. Saying that means all german engines(specifically bmw's) or high performance cars drains oil in same level as the supra. Thinking of Track only BMW S1000RR even does not drain oil that fast, I can easily say that 1000 miles oil drain is not normal.
    Does anyone actually know why it drains oil that fast? Is it because wrong grade of oil? I'd assume 5w30 or 5w40 can be suitable for 3L turbo engine. Or is it because something to do within the enigne? something to do with oil filter? Is there an issue with the coolant system?
    I'd love to know the reason why it drains oil as I am looking to get Supra.

  • @rodrigogonzalez3151
    @rodrigogonzalez3151 3 года назад

    Strange I have a 2021 witch no oil problems and I already have it tuned on e60

  • @vinceking7878
    @vinceking7878 3 года назад

    What about suspension differences? Why did they lock the ECU on a car they wanted to be a tuner car????????🤔

  • @fatehbawany9672
    @fatehbawany9672 7 месяцев назад

    how significant is the exhaust manifold difference?

  • @jeconsta
    @jeconsta 3 года назад +9

    I wish you made this video 6 months ago, back in December I got my 2021 Supra. I thought the 21 was going to be better because of all the updates plus I couldn't find a good deal on a 2020

    • @TheStevenQ
      @TheStevenQ 3 года назад

      How much did you end up paying if you don’t mind me asking ? I’m looking to be in the market late this year, and doing some research now

    • @jeconsta
      @jeconsta 3 года назад

      @@TheStevenQ 56k

    • @ActNasty5
      @ActNasty5 3 года назад

      @@jeconsta 2020s are damn near the same price 😂

    • @bman1668
      @bman1668 3 года назад

      In the long run 21 will be better once ecu cracked also resell value 21 will be better with updated engine

    • @ActNasty5
      @ActNasty5 3 года назад

      @@bman1668 debatable. Oil consumption issues, and the ones that are unlocked and modded i heard are similar to modded 20s

  • @davidtroxell7370
    @davidtroxell7370 3 года назад

    I purchased my A90 2 weeks after you did, and my 2021 has the oil consumption issue... I have changed the down pipe (still catted) and a full exhaust. The dealership wants to tell me that these changes have caused the issue. Either way this is why I have not tuned it. Plus I’m not sure if my car is tunable

    • @Danscapee
      @Danscapee 3 года назад +1

      Just check the ecu date and see if it’s before June

    • @clpauto3710
      @clpauto3710 3 года назад

      How did you drive it during the break in period? Polls show that how it was driven during this period is likely the cause of this issue. I have a 2021 with 6k miles, no issues this far. Or this poll was wildly coincidental haha.

    • @sereph9612
      @sereph9612 3 года назад +1

      @@clpauto3710 I have an early build date 2021 and I have driven the piss out of it from day 1, no oil issues yet but only at 2200 miles. What's your build date and how did you drive it during break in?

  • @BabaYagaRacing
    @BabaYagaRacing 3 года назад +5

    Wanna mod and go fast? Go 2020!

    • @ThicWhips
      @ThicWhips  3 года назад +1

      Ayeeee 🚀

    • @WineHouse33
      @WineHouse33 3 года назад

      I’m sure they’ll never unlock the 2021. It has block chain encryption

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 3 года назад

      2020 value will go up if the future dme's are unlockable

    • @supranova730
      @supranova730 3 года назад +1

      Why do they lock certain 2021 Supras ECUs but not all? That is strange. I wonder if they are concerned about the 2021 reliability and thus made the decision to lock the ECU after getting some data back from test mules early in production of the 2021.

  • @WineHouse33
    @WineHouse33 3 года назад +4

    Loving my ‘21. Downpipe, exhaust, intake and charge pipe for now.

    • @nicholaslong3010
      @nicholaslong3010 3 года назад

      Is your dealer cool about aftermarket parts? Or you DGAF? What exhaust? Bet it sounds good!

    • @Indifference2000
      @Indifference2000 3 года назад

      Wine house R is it tuned?

    • @WineHouse33
      @WineHouse33 3 года назад

      @@Indifference2000 Not yet.

  • @shinymike4301
    @shinymike4301 3 года назад +2

    Typing this while listening to above video, so maybe you cover this, or have covered it in the past: Are you using the oem spec oil or did you go to something heavier?

    • @ThicWhips
      @ThicWhips  3 года назад +1

      Yes, I am using Liqui Molly 6600 0w-20. I use Liqui Molly in all of my cars. Best stuff out there!

    • @ThicWhips
      @ThicWhips  3 года назад +1

      Also worth mentioning I run e50 often, so my oil change intervals are pretty aggressive, every 3k miles or so

  • @Konsfps
    @Konsfps 3 года назад

    The fenders are so 🔥

  • @OG-Diamond
    @OG-Diamond 2 года назад

    so for auto 2020 supra can be modded? even though its automatic?

  • @CruisinCuzzi
    @CruisinCuzzi 3 года назад

    Jon you made me get an f30 and ooooooo when I can afford one you made me wanna get one of those too 🤧

  • @jonathankrum3016
    @jonathankrum3016 2 года назад

    Car looks great. They will crack the idme with out fail.

  • @PinoyZo1
    @PinoyZo1 3 года назад

    I wonder if they making a 2022 or a GRMN Supra

  • @Bulk_Bullets
    @Bulk_Bullets 2 года назад

    Where did you get your steering wheel? Thats exactly the style i want.

  • @cjpp78ytube
    @cjpp78ytube 3 года назад +2

    The 2021 supra has same B58 variant as the M340 and U.S spec Z4. I'm driving a 2021 M340 and it too needed 1 quart of oil added at 6500 miles. BMW's attitude is that it's normal. The oil was changed at around 9700 miles and now car has close to 15k miles..so far so good, still full.

    • @austinweippert4065
      @austinweippert4065 2 года назад +1

      Toyota changed a fair bit on the b58 for the supra

  • @mkv.exe21
    @mkv.exe21 7 месяцев назад

    I really cant believe that it's December 26, 2023 and so far the only way to get the 2021+ unlocked is by sending it to Femto in Europe

  • @Change765
    @Change765 3 года назад

    I want the same fenders but I’m afraid to take my oem fenders off as it looks pretty tough

    • @ThicWhips
      @ThicWhips  3 года назад +1

      Nah, I made a video on it. Just takes patience and time

    • @Change765
      @Change765 3 года назад

      @@ThicWhips the cars so new I’m at the stage when I’m scared I’ll break the plastic pieces! Lol

    • @Change765
      @Change765 3 года назад

      @@ThicWhips if you’re ever around Pennsylvania help me out ! Lol

    • @ThicWhips
      @ThicWhips  3 года назад +3

      Break some shit, you’ll feel better about working on it then lmao

  • @sarvarbekismailov4094
    @sarvarbekismailov4094 3 года назад +2

    After watching ur video last month i went with supra instead of c8 and I'm really happy, men act like kids when they see it. People just scream of that's supra and shit when they see it

  • @hunchoG20
    @hunchoG20 3 года назад +2

    Bought some tuner cult gear as well 😂 hey you never know 👀

    • @ThicWhips
      @ThicWhips  3 года назад +2

      Fingers crossed 😆

    • @supranova730
      @supranova730 3 года назад

      @@ThicWhips I assume you want the McLaren 😂

    • @ThicWhips
      @ThicWhips  3 года назад +1

      Yes please 😂