2021 Toyota Supra meets the BMW M2 CS: the Mk4's real successor | Jason Cammisa on the Icons Ep. 01
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2024
- What makes a Supra, a Supra? Our veteran automotive journalist Jason Cammisa asks that very question as he pits the updated Mk5 A90 Supra against its mechanical twin, the BMW Z4 M40i as well as the Mk5's predecessor, the A80 Mk4 Supra Turbo.
Cammisa also heads to Toyota's CALTY Design Research Center to visit the magnificent FT-1 concept car that gave life to the Supra - where he chats with Kevin Hunter, its designer, about the challenges in grafting the FT-1's design language onto the Z4's hard points.
The surprise star of the video is the 2021 BMW M2 CS. On paper, it would seem to have nothing to do with the Supra, but in fact, there's an argument to be made that it's an even better Supra than the Supra itself.
Follow Jason Cammisa on Instagram at @jasoncammisa
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0:00 Introducing Supra and M2 CS
2:08 2021 Supra vs Mk4 Supra Turbo Drag Race
2:50 2021 Supra Review Part 1
3:18 Supra vs M2 CS chase
4:38 Supra vs M2 CS on paper
5:28 BMW M2 CS Review
6:53 BMW Sports Cars
7:19 BMW Z4 M40i Review
8:54 Toyota Supra and FT-1 Design History
9:49 What is a "hardpoint?"
10:45 Shrinking FT-1 onto Z4's hardpoints
11:26 Supra horn vs Z4 horn
11:56 2021 Supra vs BMW Z4 M40i drag race
12:49 2021 Supra Review Part 2
14:06 History of Toyota Supra
15:56 The Mk4 Supra Turbo
18:12 Mk4 Sales Failure
18:50 The Hydrogen Fuel Cell trade
19:53 Conclusion
21:26 Credits
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You forgot , the 2006 BMW Z4 M .
Supra: laughs in botti tune
Toyota is so pathetic to ask to another carmaker to make their flagship car. Yikes
@@ivangamer8022 And so Chevy for buying a flat plane crank engine from Ford just port it out a few more liters
no.............. check out M2 850 hp
The camera angle and editing...... Whoever was behind the camera is a pro in the movie industry.
Anthony Esposito, Director of Photography. God among RUclipsrs.
I was about to comment the same thing, its like watching an informative fast and the furious movie! So cool!
So true
It certainly takes talent... and an adequate gear budget.
Too bad they hired Top Gear old RUclips sound editor.
Like, this is literally the highest production value, best executed car content you can get right now. I am floored.
I was thinking exactly the same thing while watching!
It's like watching only the good part of a good old Holywood movie...
Your solution would be...?
Chris Harris. Carfection.
What you said... so true.
This is one of the most exhilarating videos (if not the most ) regarding the M2 cs. Thanks Jason and Hagerty for this. Every segment is a bliss to watch.
Every M2CS entry was unbelievably gorgeous! The production, videography and the sound effects are impeccable!!
man the FT1 is just pure bliss but considering the engineering and business requirements, the supra came out pretty friggin good. i'd get one for sure if i could, in red
yeah if only supra gr could be closer to ft1 rather than z4.
You would think the FT1 would fit better on the LC500
@@Zack_Aksel naah, the LC is HEAVY. It’ll just be worse overall.
Man the production for shooting this video is better than alot of action movies out there.
Definitely!
That includes F9
I just question all the intake noises, like do those cars actually make those noises when you give them the beans?
@@Daniel-dj7fh The production did look killer compared to some but when booted I too thought the engine notes sounded enhanced at times (particularly, like yourself, the induction noise). Noticeably the Mk4 sounded disingenuous but considering the general demographic of Mk4 buyers , they probs just removed the filters lol.,(they dig the “Whoosh”)
Truest.
Director: How good do you want the intro?
Hagerty: God tier...
Director: How good do you want the intro?
Hagerty: God tier...
Jason Cammisa: God tier times two!
People always downplay the Supra because they say its just a BMW with a Toyota bodykit, but they forget that the car was Co-Developed. Not a overhyped Z4, a Co-Developed BMW and Toyota. They may have similar engines, but they're different in many ways other than the way they look and who's badge is on the front bumper.
fr im in love with my bfs
This is pure enthusiasm and passion…..
Watched this video and at the ending screen fade I was expecting to hear the applause of the Top Gear studio. It honestly felt like I was watching 2008 Top Gear again. Bravo Jason, as usual.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Great job Jason and team
and on that bombshell...
Thought the same. Great job.
He and Chris Harris and Matt Watson need to produce a car show with Top Gear's budget. It will be the greatest thing ever!
Dear Hagerty, and my good ol' friend Jack Baruth, thanks for having Jason Camissa. Please have him forever. Thank you.
Hello bobby!
Beware, that Vimal Rich guy from FB will come and take revenge on you on human rights issues in china haha
@@mrksgf3308 HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA is it in the Facebook group Subtle Malaysian Traits?
@@williamlee2251 yea dude, we were just giving some advices in a nice way then he just got triggered and started name calling
@@mrksgf3308 dei coconut, who got triggered and started name calling? You just couldn’t argue at all so you complain like a sore loser LMAO
My goodness, this channel is really something! Best discovery of 2022 for me, hands down!!
Can't believe I am just discovering this channel. My fav channel of 2022 when it comes to Car Content! Excellent packaging. It keeps getting better with each video I watch! Keep up the good job!
Check out the Carmudgeon Show it’s Jason’s podcast it’s fantastic, he does a lot of episodes talking about the cars he’s driven and what goes into making these videos 👍
Thanks, @@griffins750 !
Will surely check it out!
@@kimbuoy1 Your very welcome man! Always happy to turn people onto good content!
If you would like, and you can totally ignore this it’s perfectly fine but I figure I’d let you know how I went about it when I first found the podcast so you’d at least have the information… My recommendation would be to start from the beginning of the podcast which actually started on Issimi’s RUclips channel which is also where someone of Jason’s videos are as he worked with them throughout the start of Covid if you didn’t already know that (more content for you in that case 😄). The first few episodes are kinda “meh” but watching those will help you understand some of the running comedic gags/jokes that are still going on three years later, then I’d suggest starting with the early episodes on Hagerty, to explain the long and short of it, the podcast is still amazing but it’s gotten a bit more messy as they have now made so many that trying to come up with good topics is a bit harder, so now it’s a bit hit or miss with some of the episodes, but the early Hagerty stuff (or Carmudgeon Show stuff if your looking it up on RUclips) is super entertaining, and you can obviously pick and choose your way through the episodes depending on what interests you…
Good luck hope you enjoy, I’ve definitely learned a lot just from listening to them. 😁❤️
this is one satisfying video
Oh it’s you!
@@nitroxide17 c
for a fews second it felt better than Fast and furious movie intro
whew from driving a lawnmower now interested in cars
Didn’t expect to see u here
The production on this video is on a whole different level
Yes, smash cut to hell, so you have no reference points, and, consequently, no idea what is actually happening. The Christopher Nolan fight scene school of cinematography. Feeeeeels very visceral, though...
It is. Too much Imo. I couldn't tell whether it was meant to be a car review or another installment of the Fast & Furious franchise.
The old supra driving up took my breath away. The car is just a timeless beast.
Really increases my dislike for the current "supra".... not to sound lame but jeez. Next to the old supra..... no contest.
@@shad3128 Personally i think mk4 is the worst looking supra out of all. MK3 looking the best and mk5 in second.
@@BlackonBlackE46 the mk4 may be decent but it's looks indeed arent
Mk4 is so ugly.
It's always great watching a video from Jason. His enthusiasm for the subject matter is truly infectious and his delivery is splendid.
Dear Hagerty,
Please give this man whatever he needs to make whatever he wants. Even if what he wants to make are karaoke videos.
Sincerely,
The Internet
I second that^
Well said.
Third
@@technologyandsound32 The motion passes. Let the man make whatever videos he wants to make, LOL
I fourth the notion
This was like watching an intense action movie ... damn , I didn't notice that I've watched 20+ minutes on a car show
Yeah I just watched it and thought how quickly it went - the video was made really well!
same!! Can't believe I've just spent 22 minutes!
They've been watching too many Fast & Furious films..
Such fantastic work and I agree, mostly. The MK4 may have been a "supercar slayer" in terms of modifiability but we all know it was really competing against the 300ZX, RX7, skyline, and of course the porky 3000GT. Of those cars the RX7 was the handler, the skyline had the racing pedigree and the Supra was really more of the GT car, evidenced by its enormous price. The car had the quality to back it up but $45k for a "sports car" in 1993 was BIG coin and I reckon the car was likely received similarly to the Lexus LC500 is today. There is one thing the M2 can't match the MK4 on, and that is the glorious sounds from that exhaust, OMG the 2JZ truly is legendary.
I love how he gets into history of cars. Wish he could do one on the Thunderbird when they won in NASCAR
Can we all take a moment to appreciate Jason’s driving skills.
And also, JASON IS BACK!!!!!
I'll take the compliment because we crashed none of the cars doing that intro sequence. 😬 Also, thanks!
yes, a host that can drive! lol
@@JasonCammisa Hmmm... The M2 makes a better Supra, than the Supra, because it's the only Supra we have left!(for multiple reasons)
Who is he though? Ex racer, stunt driver or something?
@@ranggafahmi8479 I’m just a journalist - but also a genuine car nut. The stunt driving comes from years of playing in the snow. And most people here know me from my shows on Motor Trend.
This is arguably some of the best, most all-round car-related productions on You Tube. Definitely top 1% stuff. Great job guys. Story, humour, editing, visuals. Nailed them all. I bow to you.
I came here to write the exact thing you did. I mean look at this. The intro alone is way upper class than 95% of the rest car content on RUclips...
this dude has become my fav car journalist now, right after DOUGDEMOURO. those passive agressive bits explianing the Mirai thing cracked me up
@@crhistianlopezacosta6485 I also love Robert Mitchell, Jay Leno, and of course, Chris Harris.
I would say the editing and acting is little cheesy, but to each their own
Nailed it
Absolutely superb work. Again. Storytelling, production, sound design, the incomparable humour of Jason Camisa, all the crew, thanks for sharing what journalism should be today in all áreas of expertise, complete!
The pure joy on his face when he's in the Mk4 is unreal
As a car designer, seeing this explanation about hard points brings tears of joy. People seldom understand the toll these take on our designs. Awesome job Jason Camisa.
You're a car designer?
As a mechanic i would just like to say, you prick.
@@daveholmes5540 fully agree
@@daveholmes5540 as a mechanic who studied mechanical engineering and who's father is a manufacturing engineer..... Hard points hurt everyone
@@dakotataylor7909 its not just the hard points though.
The amount of pure stupidity you see in modern cars is unreal. Its no wonder mechanics are leaving the trade left, right and centre.
@@daveholmes5540 being a "mechanic" is a dead idea, in order to be successful the trade requires a higher level of skill when it comes to diag. One of the issues I see is that in North America we still preach the trades as an option instead of school, and that it's working with your hands and that's not true anymore.
I'll bite on this one since our videos covered the same points. Making a ground up sports car these days is a bad business move on almost every single front. They don't sell enough, unless they are Marquee established brands like Mustang, 911 and Corvette. They are also far more costly unless built on a shared archetecture where everything is shared out. (Thats how BMW makes sporty GT cars) Toyota is the first to say people don't care about their sports cars until they are gone, Supra, LFA, MR2. So much like this Cammisa video, it would not exist without corporate backing and a paycheck, because 99% of automotive passion projects don't pay.
Point is the modern Supra is one of the best sports cars for 50k new. If you want companies to take risks on enthusiast products, buy them now because cars like this are short for this world.
But we love asking for things we'll never actually buy! 😅
Savagegeese sighting in the wild! Wow! This instantly cured my athletes foot thanks guys. 👍🏿
Can't agree more
Agreed
Yes
Honestly loving these videos! It's like watching top gear produced content hosted by a car enthusiast, Ryan Reynolds and I love it! The production behind the camera work and editing is crazy and the hosting is informative and has its own charisma that makes me want to watch till the end. Big fan. Great work Hagerty crew and Jason! ❤
Update - After watching this video for multiple times in the past 1.5 year I finally pulled trigger and bought a 3.0 premium 22 Supra in Turbulence Gray!! Love it!! I daily drive it and planning to track it in near future!
"and bought a Zupra" way to waste your money on a BMW and not an actual Supra.
Top Gear has fathered a lot of children I see. Nice show. 👍🏽💯
The Real top gear .....
@@zinodz8774 yup
This is way better than TG.
@@V12_smoke you mean the new TG .right ?
@@V12_smoke but not the grand tour
This is a true spiritual successor to Top Gear. Engaging, interesting and exciting!
You've got to be kidding. Oh wait. Jason Cammisa's jokes are so bad they totally redefine the meaning of 'bad'.
@@jfloop77 and the Top gear trio were and are worse...
@@iHelpSolveIt the American or the brits?
@@jfloop77 you rn: 🤓
@@jfloop77 get Deadpool to host Jason's show... all I can her from Jason's big mouth was Deadpool himself... hahahaha
I keep coming back to watch this over and over. Amazing camera angles, GREAT REVIEW
Thank you, Camissa, for doing a great presentation on these cars, and for the unique comparison. And thank you Hagerty, for hiring this nut job to entertain us all for years to come.
Been a loyal fan of JC since his MT H2H days. Keep up the great work, all of you! 🙌🔧❤️😎
The production value is so high I cried...
lolz
me too 😢
Not me, I came
cant believe i watch this for free...
@@longshuoli8720 nay, TG we get to watch this for free... i subscribed to the channel after 30s of the opening, btw
It feels like watching Ryan Reynolds making car reviews.
Seems more like Adam Sandler
Ben Affleck*
@Skeggjaður Dreki Somewhere between Adam and Ryan :D
I'm glad I'm not the only one that would be pretty dope
If Jason is doing his own driving, he’s really good! Never seen better filming, ever!
It’s been 2 years but I watched this video many times….. it just gave me goosebumps
BEST. INTRO. EVER. Hooked from the 1st second till the very last. This IS the new standard. Bravo Hagerty team 👏
fr that some quality content
Jason Cammisa, the classic BMW hater. The hate in him is so evident, it's like as if he is paid for it.
@@nsx001 ehmm, didn't he say that he loves the m2 Cs?
People who are both BMW and Toyota fans: *I see this as an absolute win.*
But isn’t Toyota’s biggest attribute their engineering and longevity? I don’t know if you’re going to get that out of this car even if Toyota “oversaw” production.
@@lawnmowerdude What have Toyota ever engineered? Tell me a single thing Toyota invented? An entire industry built on stolen developments. Only fools believe the crap they are anything other than junk.
@@jellybean1976928 Toyotas, even today make every other car made today look like they are prototypes. Pretty much every other companies cars fall apart after 100k to 200k miles and literally, every Toyota can make it to that mileage with barely any maintenance.
I'm part of a BMW club and we always love to see the new Supras at our meets. We welcome them like our own...well because they are.
@@luismiguelruiz4290 Okay dude, what has Toyota created? Multi valve engines? Turbo charging? Leading edge safety? Supercharging? 4WD? Automatic or manual transmissions? Disc brakes? They have trailed in every aspect, and every concept they've ever embraced was created by others, like hybrids a CENTURY AGO when Japan didn't know how to make a car. Literally look up any technology and I'll guarantee it came out of Europe or the USA before Toyota even existed. Just copy cats supported by Sheeple. Now another thing you said.... Look up world record mileage, it's not a Toyota. Look up top ten World record mileage, not Toyota. They are junk for fools who buy into the momentum created by sheep following.
This video was so well shot and produced, the sounds and angles of the m2 chasing the Supra was incredible. It is what the fast and furious movies should be!
All bits with Jason could EASILY be sold as a series to Netflix or whomever might pay the most. The videos are already top quality.
The black MK4 in this video just made me fall back in love with Supras.
mk5s make me wanna vomit
@@mrgedits4478 I kinda agree. I used to hate them but I've seen some in person and they're growing on me
@@codyC423 MK5 looks good (I have looked past the fake vents), but the interior is acceptable, but a bit meh when I sat in it at the 2019 Geneva Motor Show. And many tuners have developed decent tuning solutions already to the MK5 (both 2.0 and 3.0). For example, Max Orido's own lightly tuned MK5 (Project mu brakes, CPM chassis reinforcements, HKS Hipermax suspensions, HKS exhausts), as well as the works from tuners like Revolution and Boss.
Never had the slightest interest in the Z4 though. It's not an M product, so it does not feature any of the sports tuning (The entry level 2.0 version even has an open diff lmao...). It looks way angrier than its performance. There is very little gratuity in the Z4.
@@codyC423 I mean to me they sexy as f*** especially in person I see one pass through the other day and that sound was oh fckn amazing
@@mrgedits4478 i work at toyota, its an amazing car to drive and it's pretty to look at.
Let’s take a moment to appreciate Hagerty bringing us free content that pretty much any other company would charge for.
Also, damn Jason, you drive better than a movie stunt driver!!
Thank you - and yes, thank you to Hagerty!
So very right
That Supra and M2 chase sequence on the track was divine
Not sure what Jason is best at, but this stuff is great. Somehow Hagerty saw the potential and for that I'm grateful.
I've been considering switching to Hagerty once I get my restoration project on the road in about a month.
The production of these videos is marvelous! Keep up the fantastic work guys
This episode has my heart thumping all through! That blissful straight six boosted MK4 🤯
*I came here expecting a RUclips video, I got a Movie. This is by far the best video about a modern car's history and current status. Can't wait to see more!*
I had the same reaction. What a beautiful production!
It's so crazy, I love it.
i feel like you guys need an oscar for that intro alone.Gat damn it this was amazing and nothing short of entertaining
I recently got into a 23 GR Supra. As someone who wanted an older model BMW as a kid, this car hits a lot of the same notes for me. The powerful Mark(Mach)5! I drive it like my old 99 Corolla except for when I don’t. One thing about that car was it hauled a lot of people around, and this one doesn’t which I don’t mind. It corners like a dream and windows down driving is a must. It being modeled on a Z4 I believe lends itself to this. The wind buffeting that I haven’t got parts for yet happens between 70-105km. I look at it as reason to drive slow on the street and fast on the highway. Same way I learned how I get in and out long term, go in backwards then roll. Getting out swing both legs and look to the trunk and slide out. Windows are down. Pop the trunk. Close the door. Open the trunk. Put a finger on the door handle roll up the windows. Close the trunk. Rate my swag lol. A lot of fun can be had at 2000 Rpm’s or less. Anything more isn’t worth the excessive extra fuel consumption. 94 should be sipped slowly. This isn’t an 89 engine yet at 3400km. Maybe after the first oil change in 10k km, but not before. I’m glad I got the automatic and how chill it is to just listen to it drive so effortlessly. Or make a game of not using the brakes or minimizing it. Truly a drivers machine. Thank You Gazoo Racing!
The quality of the content you are providing is insanely good. The people behind the camera is professional. They really know how to put everything in frame in the correct way. This was very fun to watch. Thanks for the great content.
Almost a year later and I'm watching it again for like the 10th time. Such great quality by the entire team. Amazingly produced and much appreciated.
Camissa does it again. He can drive, talk and put a great story together. Bravo hope this never ends.
and amazingly doesn't feel the need to scream into the camera every time he hits the throttle
Jason Cammisa, the classic BMW hater from MotorTrend. The hate in him is so evident, it's like as if he is paid for it.
That was 20 minutes of pure Joy and Automotive Gold.
Jasson Cammisa is the best.
🔥🔥🔥
The content from this channel is so good. Jason is such a great presenter
Script, production quality, content - would make you think they have a million dollar budget for this 22 minute video. Truly brilliant.
This is journalism at it's peak. Camissa you're GOAT
Woooow, found you again man after so many years. You were doing cars reviews on a different channel, I forgot which one. My favorite car reviewer, your videos are a different level. So glad I found your channel and productions again.
There needs to be a whole new category of Emmy nominations for the stuff that Jason Cammisa does.
Dear Hagerty,
I’m a car guy, Jason is the only guy who speaks our language. He could speak in German, French, or Chinese and we would still watch his videos because that’s his gift! I honestly enjoyed this more than everything I’ve seen on RUclips in years!
PLEASE KEEP JASON & GIVE HIM WHATEVER HE NEEDS TO MAKE CONTENT LIKE THIS!
Jason Cammisa, the classic BMW hater. The hate in him is so evident, it's like as if he is paid for it.
@@nsx001 ... meanwhile, this video is a love letter for the M2.
He def raised my eyebrows about a car I hadn't paid any attention to before.
This man is flow-ing, a great communicator and driver. He's perfect for this job if he even calls it a job. Bravo. Oh and the supra is pretty awesome too.
Jason's the only guy I don't mind having an ego, if its a thing where he makes sure that any video featuring him has his own name on it, partly because he's damn good at what he does, mostly because he's like what I wanted in a Top Gear presenter to pair with Chris Harris.
Not even a full 2 minutes into the video and I have to say, this lad is one hell of a pilot. Major props
After watching this video, I'm definately subscribing. I had to immediately check to see the comments if I was the only one thinking this was by far one of the best car reviews I've ever seen. Top tier. I salute you my brother. Keep up the good work. We'll worth it.
I still can't contemplate why Jason doesn't have his own YT channel. He's by far the best host in the States. He'd give the straight pipes, the smoking tire and throttle house a run for their money.
Jason Cammisa, the classic BMW hater from MotorTrend. The hate in him is so evident, it's like as if he is paid for it.
Isn't ISSIMI his?
@@nsx001 he owns a classic e30 325i wagon btw have you watched his video on that
@@nsx001 bmw isn’t what it used to be
@@nsx001 New BMW is a shadow of it's former self. Put down the koolaid already
OK. You got it. Best scriptless script. Best presentation. Best camera work. Best editing. Now please.. go back and rescue Derek. He’s dying out there with BTS With DTS but may not know it.
Hagerty and Mr. Camissa, you know you've done a great job when none of the comments are about the outrageously gorgeous sounds that Mk4 makes.
The styling on the supra is too freaking kool.
Whoever did the B-roll on this deserves a medal.
So, this is now officially *THE* car channel to watch.
This is a fantastic video. Jason’s point at the end is spot on. The new GT-R was received well because it DID carry on the GT-R legacy, beating up on supercars at the time for half the price.
These are sick. Please keep making them 🙏 thank you
This is an absolute unit of a production. My favorite part was hearing that Mk4 unleash absolute wrath.
Jason, thank you for filling the Chris Harris shaped void that we have all been so desperately needing on RUclips. Between you and Henry Catchpole, I think us angry internet gearheads are finally sated.
I find it funny that all it took for the b58 tuning scene to explode is a nameplate. Sure before the mk5 came about there is an aftermarket scene for the b58. But after the mk5 came out, next thing you know, there's built motors for drag & pro drifting, 1/4 mile times for the platform dropped, & suddenly more aftermarket brand names have taken to it. Hell HKS took up r&d for the mk5 so they can expand into tuning BMW products as a whole. It's nuts.
I've seen your videos Albon, I know you are an A90 supporter. Jason pins a heavily modified Mk4 against a stock Mk5. I fair comparison would need to include at least a tuned Mk5 on ethanol through Ecutek (Botti or Marintuned) or something to that effect. Running 10's on tune only with my A90, the aftermarket potential goes grossly under appreciated for the MK5. What do you think?
@@monicajarvina1962 I'll say. Give it a few more years. Once the aftermarket starts seeing the B58 being swapped into other cars and we see more with both built B58s and billet block B58s and whatever toyo does with it in its later years it'll blow up just like the GTR did and people will 180 on what they thought about the mk5 Other than the BMW criticism probably not calming down but still. Either way people say they should've made it themselves or should've used this or that platform from lexus(even tho that makes zero sense when we've had these lexuses around for years mainly them saying it should've been based on the RC or LC even tho they've been around for years and people barely doing anything close to what people are doing with the current. They are not bad cars its just people seem to not try to do anything with them)even tho people should've just been using those cars from the get go without the supra sharing anything from them will probably still stand in some peoples opinion till the car ends production(sorry for the paragraph). I'll just say yea the cars a BMW but tbh not a single modern toyo is used or modified anywhere close to the mk5 other than the GT86 and that's a Subaru so saying it being a BMW isn't a bad thing when it has people using it for what it's built for even when the toyo community itself uses the mk4 in most conversations it's pretty rare they ever bring in any of the modern platforms like the RCF or ISF in these kind of conversations about the mk5 and what people have done with them vs the mk5.
OMG truer words have never been spoken
@@carboydorifutoparty3976 I heavily agree. People seem to have forgotten that the Supra had hilarious amount of understeer due to the 2JZ weighing over 650 LBS!
If that's not enough, than notice that at this video, a bone stock Mk5 pulled away from a 1000 horsepower MK4 off the line.
People keep saying that this is not the point of the Supra when I mention pretty much every flaw of the car, but as a new car guy, I fail to understand what IS the point of the Supra mk4. For me, it was a cheaper and more economical BMW E46 3 series (not the M3). Fun to drive, but not necessarily the monster that it sadly has become. The new Supra has all that, BUT BETTER. They removed the mk4's biggest weakness (mostly) and turned the Supra into a fun grand tourer that you can still tune to absurdity because Supra
Everybody's going on about production value and camera angles. Jason had me at that reverse 180 into power over right. ❤️
Wow that was a video worth the while !! loved every bit of it.
That FT1 concept may be the sexiest car I've ever seen in my life
OMG, yessss! And it's sad that production version is so far from original idea
And they ruined that with a what I first thought looked like a cockroach. My heart broke when I saw the production version.
@@kickyadick It was the same for me when I saw the production version of the FRS. It looked nothing like the Five Axis FRS concept.
Yes. So much that I instantly looked up widebody ft1 kit for the new Supra 😆
And to BMW/Toyotas credit, the mk5 looks damn close to what they did as a concept.
Only if there were no pedestrian safety rules...
The amount of effort put into this single video is mind boggling. So much information, nitty gritties, and heritage from each sports car brand. It's absolutely amazing to see.
Love your work, Jason. Very informative. This coming from a long-time enthusiast and critic.
happy 1 year for this video. super legendary.
What's funny is that old supra they were using probably cost more than the M2 CS.
If it were stock it would definitely cost more. The few stock mk4 turbo supras out there are going for way over 100k now.
I’m floored right now.....to have this production value, for free, blows my mind. Jason I hope you watched the final edit on this and were thoroughly impressed with how it came out. If you didn’t, well, that’s just going to be better for us in the long run.
Hagarty, thank for allowing this man to do what he does best. Your channel has changed the game!
First time watching a video from here and Subbed. That production quality was insane, the story telling was engaging, so much I learned I had no idea about. Really enjoyed this 10/10
Omg... this Intro was totally EPIC! The driving, the editing, the choreography.... Just WOW!
Give the Sound Editor on this video an OSCAR. How tf did you record and mix the engine sounds that epic?
So True best in the site
I love to see somebody who loves cars making this programs.
I love these ICON videos! I still can't believe they are free on RUclips.
Great edits and shots. Thanks!
This is like a long-form Top Gear segment. Incredibly well done.
Cammisa is brilliant as always. I love how slick that opening shot was with him driving backward and narrating.
I had goosebumps towards the end of this video! Man! Please keep producing videos like this!
Thanks for a great episode!! now to binge more !!!
I laughed, I had fun, remembered the good old days, became hopeful for the future and learn a lot all in one video. This was wey better than a movie. Please stay Jason we need you.
This Video is much greater then the last few Fast and Furious Movies!
When I saw that reversing 180 spin into a snap turn all while the supras are advancing on him I knew this guy was the real deal
Hats off for that editing .... That was amazing !!!
Dude, That intro gave me chills.
This is one of the best made for youtube automotive videos, the audio in the this video is top notch.
I love the way you input reality in your videos!!
These videos are cinema... Blown away EVERY SINGLE TIME
Welcome back MR CAMISA.. We missed you.
The video really highlights how the joint venture between Toyota and BMW significantly improved the noise the BMW I6 makes.
As a Bmw enthusiast, the Supra is 50/50, it’s not just a z4 with a badge. Design, tuning, and gearing all went into the new Supra, which is awesome and you can get it lighter than a z4. They definitely had time to fiddle with things to their liking which I would consider them close relatives but not clones