Its been 3 months since i first saw this video and started really focusing on a routine for my slide techique. So far im already waaaay more comfortable with it and now my right foot feels much easier to handle. Kept all the tips you gave here. Thank you for that! And for people that may get frustrated with not accomplishing much in the first weeks, don't worry. Just focus on having a movement that is natural and relaxed. Speed and power will come.
Very important to also give yourself a minute or two to relax your legs when exercising this. Otherwise you'll just get too weary and the progress will be slower! Plus it will stress the movement and you may get uncomfortable or get used to doing it wrong when tired
As a teacher you're ahead of your time, I think you have to be born with great teaching skills! My 16 year old plays drums and I can't wait to show him this video! Thanks!
im a bassist so ive spent a lot of time watching drummers. You are a quality teacher. i like the slight volume variation with this technique. its just sounds a little bit groovier than heel-toe imo
It’s a moeller stroke for the kick drum. Heel toe is like the push pull. It’s also similar to a gravity blast with your feet, it’s all the same concept of getting multiple notes per stroke
Oh my god. . .thank you! I got taught "proper foot position" in high school for heels up. But through the years I've been annoyed at not having the speed that I saw flat foots using. I've never stopped keeping heels up though. Now I have something to actually practice and know why that technique is there. Thanks so much for this video.
Ender Exile my teacher would have smacked me for not having my heels on the floor. The only time you were allowed to lift a heel was rocking a 2-4 hi-hat during a swing. I gotta try this.
I was kind of concerned about speed when playing heel up too, however I noticed that actually a lot of metal drummers play heel up and can get unbelievable speed on the double bass pedal. This one is a good example: ruclips.net/video/YWtAE3r9Voo/видео.html (skip to 1:33 if you follow the link)
@@StrawberryFieldsLane my mum would get smacked at school for writing with her left hand, not all teachers are right, which ever way you feel comfortable with Is the right way.
I started playing about 60 years ago. I completely stopped about 20 years ago as life got in the way. I'm retired now and decided to start playing again. This time though, I'm going to purchase an edrum kit. Alexis dm10 mkii studio kit. As I actually like my neighbors. I actually learned something new from your video, so I guess an old dog can learn new tricks. Thank you. I just subscribed and I'm sure I'll be playing to Inna godda da vidda soon.
Awesome explanation of this technique. I've been playing drums for nearly 30 years and developed somewhat of the same technique without ever really noticing it or being able to articulate to someone else what it is that I'm doing. When I think about it, I started playing heel up way back when I would be playing gigs with my band and the house kits throne was too high for me, thus forcing me to play with the balls of my feet in the resting position. I then noticed when jamming at home with my throne lowered down that my kick drum had somewhat of a mushy sound - always thinking that it was my kit that needed improvement rather than my technique. This was in my early teens. Later that same summer, I started making my throne higher so that I could be more on top of the toms rather than to help with my kick drum technique but thinking about it now, it was exactly when I started sitting up higher that all of my skills seemed to improve quite a bit and I began getting all of the ghost notes and accents that I wanted - attributing it all to becoming more skilled over time rather than that simple change in position. Anyway, thanks again for the great video! I'm glad I found your channel!
DUDE! As a guitarist I sometimes dabbled on drum-kits, and double-strokes were always the bane of my drumming: I would always mess up my timing when I would try that with the ridiculous "up-down-up-down" leg-motion. I haven't tried this yet, but just from now, doing the exercise on the floor, I can already tell that this is simply a BRILLIANT solution. Props to you man. Great video and editing.
I remember back in 1991 i was homeless and walking around between sunnyvale and santa clara ca and i heard someone playing the drums. I searched around and found some guy in a sort of garage that had a drumset set up and was playing(to my delight!). I sat for a while and watched him play(i was a very new drummer back then and wanted to learn as much as i could). After a while he showed me the same kind of slide. It sorta reminded me of how your place your feet to do an ollie on a skateboard. I've never been able to master it but always thought it was pretty cool, being a single pedal purist. but i have always played with my heels up kinda high using my whole leg to get a real solid hit, plus being a drummer that played punk/hc punk i liked the feeling of using more of my body to make my hits instead of laying back and being lazy with technique. My inspiration was and still is animal from the muppets so......
Well he did a tremendous effort with the camera positions, the sound and acoustics, the illumination and the editing. He trully just rocks not just on the drumkit but over every aspect. Key aspects to make visually and audio pleasant..
I have been playing for over 20 years and I did not know that this was a technique. I taught myself to play (playing for church and then branched off into other genres) and I have used this technique thinking I was the only one that used this. I have never taken a lesson and used this technique because it was the most comfortable for me. I’m really excited to see this is a true technique. Thanks for the video.
Started playing drums in 1965 always played like this. Never had any lessons , just started playing. Ugraded to a double bass set about 1967 didn't know any better on how to play bass drums just played.
I've worked on a simple heal flat technique for many years and can do doubles very fast, however, I find the slide technique to be more efficient, not that I've tried it. To me it appears to be more physical, which I love when I'm in the zone. I don't use a double pedal because I can do all I need to do with a single pedal, but working on the slide technique will feel more natural and complete the groove I'm playing at the time without having to worry about fatigue in my ankle which sometimes occurs now. The one hurdle I have to overcome is the feeling of not using my leg to strike the bass. At 61, that may be hard to adjust to, but I don't have the flexibility in my ankles as I did when I was in my 20s and the slide technique could extend my career for many years.
As far as I understand this technique, it's not that much of a demanding way of playing but yes, it might be complicated of you're completely used to your old techniques... So, keep on practicing and you will nail it, my man... Cheers!!
Hey, im 14, i started playing drums in Q3 of 2016, my teacher told me to use the heel toe, i didn't develop a good feeling with that, and i tried this put, works like a charm :)
Man, this is the first time I have seen a teacher explain this technique in such a detailed and systemic way. Thank you so much. I will spend a summer on on.
Absolutely you are one of the great Drum teachers that I have listen to, you are very straight to the point and very clear in explaining what it takes to make this happen.. I'm 59 years old and been playing drums a long time, Great Job Brother!!!
When I saw that your regular technique of resting on the ball of your foot with the beater against the head was identical to how I play, I was very interested in what you were going to demonstrate. Every other video I've watched on this subject didn't really apply to how I play and seemed so unnatural that I just said "forget that." I've been playing for decades and have always just kinda muscled out doubles, but that doesn't really work for stringing them together - that takes technique that I never learned or applied. I am excited to get to work on the technique as you presented it - it seems logical, comfortable, and attainable. I really want to thank you for the video lesson, and I'll be checking out the rest of your videos for sure.
Thank you! An idea I got also from Dave Weckl when utilizing the Moeller method with your hands. Play a shuffle type of pattern with one hand and "stretch" it out into even singles, one accented not followed by one unaccented note, utilizing the Moeller method.
I play with my heel up for singles and will either do heel-toe (which I accidentally started doing after thinking I didn’t understand it for years) or will occasionally do a semi slide technique but I slide sideways instead of between my toes and the ball of my foot
Thank You! I have not played for decades... (But I have a kit lined up to buy) And you have give me a bump start. Good clear video and clearly explained. Top Man.
Great Lesson! I've played single bass all my life but the fact is, I should've expanded my bass foot technique many years ago. If I had, I'd been a better drummer. I'm 63 and I stopped playing 12 years ago... WHY?! Recently, I realized I could get an e-kit and even if I'm not playing with any bands anymore, I could stay in shape, (best cardio workout, ever!). So I just dropped about $900 on an e-kit, (plus an amp so I can take off the headphones once in a while), and the first thing I'm going to do when it gets here, is start practicing those kicks! Thanks again, Rich
I learned this technique while spending my first year in college too :) TAMA Rockstar with some extras. Ah, good old nostalgia and greet video! Cheers from Luxembourg, although I studied and live in Tokyo, Japan.
I really like how you broke it down. Very precise and slow to make sure everything was explained and shown correctly. Great job. Probably one of the best RUclips videos I'm seen on this.
The drum beat on Creep by Radiohead uses a quick double and I’ve been dying feeling like I can’t naturally get that first kick drum note out. I’ve been practicing a lot but decided to look up if there were any techniques I could use to help me. I’m so glad I found this video!! After getting the technique down a little, I realized this was the exact same motion I would make with my feet when I was bored sitting in my middle school classes. I’ve been practicing the samba you showed in the video, and my drum game has completely changed from watching this. Gonna practice this for many months to come!
Thanks for this! Exactly the video I've been looking for as I've been writing a song with a drum plugin and I was a bit worried I might not get the beat I want... but this help just subscribed.
Since my parents didn't want me to be a drummer when I was 14/15, I put a disk shaped metal marble box on our barbell bench press where your head lays down under the weigts. I would tap on the chrome metal tube on the barbell bar with my right hand stick for the HH. I used our old wooden toy box as a bass drum. I had no pedal. So I would pivot the ball below my right big toe sideways with my heel down into the box to get a bass drum sound. I did this because I learned independence/coordination first and was learning it quickly and was very motivated about that. That was 1980/81. I succeeded, and actually learned a bunch of tunes from Beatles, & Zeppelin, & Lynard Skynard records until I got a used drum set for Christmas in 1981. But, to this day my foot swings sideways (diagonally) to the left from the toybox technique as I drop the right foot down on any kick drum pedal. I started as a heel down player because of this toybox technique, and still am, but can play heels up comfortaby for decades, now. This ingrained motion at the outset keeps my doubles from being as quick as they need to be for playing sambas or up tempo swing. And it hurts my knee after a good 6hr session. It's like I need a custom pedal built with flat verticle plates on either side of the pedal to prevent my foot from swinging to the left instead of straight down. Or, I have to build it myself to undo bad technique from a lack of equipment before I was 16 and could work.
For me, the heel up slide technique works by sliding forward for the second stroke, and at times with some pivot to the left. However, I know some that can play quick controlled doubles by pivoting to the left only, or not even pivoting or sliding at all. I've even seen some drummers slide down the pedal or pivot to the right for the second stroke. The point is, even what I teach here is subjective and what works best for each person can be different.
One of the, if not THE, best explanations of this I have seen online. I know at higher speeds the 2 actions meld together but would you say even at the highest bpms you are still pushing down on the first note with the toes? In others words it is just NOT a single scooping movement at the higher speeds even though that is what it looks like?
Thank you so much, I appreciate the compliments! I would agree with both of your statements. As you get quicker, everything does meld together, whether you're doing just the slide technique, the pivot, or both the slide and pivot. But I'm still always trying to think about hitting the first note of the double with my toes and with my heel higher to start the motion, so I would say that's always happening, but as you get faster, things just become much more streamlined.
Totally on point. I feel those academic foundations, but that heel toe double doesn’t do it for me either. I’m more on the toes with my playing; ball toe. I like. Great video. Good stuff.
Thank you, I appreciate it! Heel down just never worked for me, although I've known drummers who could do fast controlled doubles with heel down. Just didn't resonate with me like this heel up technique does.
It's nice to watch a good, quality, informative, relaxed tutorial with a drummer who doesn't make you feel like you are small minded and or him, with a huge ego. Good teacher. Good lesson. even for a life long drummer like me who has done all sorts of footwork. and with my learning problems, I used to be able to do a good version of this and heal and toe maneuvers, but couldn't pick it up again. I tried learning it all over from other tutorials, but this guy does it all correctly and well. God Bless, man.
Nice lesson, Luke! At the end of the video, when Luke goes to the straight 16ths with the right foot. I've been working on this too and have a recommendation. Rather than having the downbeats land with the backward slide, I think it's important to switch the slide orientation to the downbeats and "&s" lining up with what Luke describes as his resting position, or the forward slide. The reason for this is, as you can hear when Luke does his 16ths, due to the two-motion nature of this technique (back-forward), the 16ths always will have to end on an "e" or "a" (1 e & a 2 e & a). If you swap the orientation of the slide to the downbeats on the forward position, you can then end your string of 16th notes on the 1 or &, which is generally more musically preferable. Just my two cents!
I have never played let alone owned a pair of drums.. I wanna say great drop with introducing a technique and it was really well thought out and well put man - I enjoyed listening to it for sure
You don’t know how thankful I’m to this vid mate. I’ve been watching all over youtube to figure out this technique but no one is able to explain this near as well as you do. I learn it almost instantly. I really like the “home” position. It kinda reminds me to always go back to where it should be.
This 'double' or pre note (on bass) sound good ONLY if the first hit is max 2/3 volume of the second! I program the first not at 64 velocity and the second at 112/116. Terrific bass drum speed/technique Luke !!!. Independent and aggressive BD is the heart of drums!
Thank you, I appreciate it! And I agree with you 100%. My opinion is that the first note needs to be softer than the second note for a realistic sound. This technique naturally helps with this, but if I'm programming drums, it's the same thing. Two subsequent fast doubles with the kick performed with one foot (or programmed as if a drummer was playing with one foot, like in a groove setting) should have the first note of the double quieter. Otherwise it doesn't sound natural to me.
Jody Cervantes Thank you, I appreciate the compliments. Stay tuned for more, I have an entire Bass Drum lesson series that will be released this spring.
The best video I've found on this subject! My bass drum speed has always sucked. I'm determined to be able to play the intro to Were an American Band with your videos help.
Just started playing, about an hour ago. Out fuckin standing lesson. Clear, concise, user friendly & super informative. Thanks, dude. Yep, I know. I’m clearly late to the party.
In my experience, most first trying these techniques need to first get their seat/throne adjusted so you can not have to 'rely' on your feet for balance...usually a bit lower in the kit...just my experience.
Best video yet on foot technique. The way you teach by taking your time with the explanations feels very natural and not rushed. Thank you very much! Totally SUBSCRIBED!
Heel toe is all calf muscle and , for me , the easiest . I cannot stress enough ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,to practice foot work anywhere WITHOUT A KIT ,trust me , swiss triplets back an forth , paradiddles , (YES) paradiddles singles , doubles , triples , quads , mix them up
Thank you! I quality pedal certainly helps, but I've been using this technique for years on a variety of pedals, differing in quality. For me, I'm extremely happy with the DW 9000's and have been using them for years. You can adjust your technique to any pedal, and be sure to adjust the pedal to fit your playing style too.
I have this down for doubles on my RF, been watching a lot of the monster heel-toe guys ala Jojo, think I might get that together for both feet in 2020. Really nice to see toe-foot representing, even on the continues phrases. Great vid.
Good lesson! Question: What to do about my aching adductor (or is it hamstring)? I can't figure out when this muscle gets to rest if one is always holding the foot somewhat 'up'.
Great video and impressive execution. Thank you Luke. I've played heel up most of my life but never mastered that slide technique. I've subscribed to your channel.
Agreed, heel up/heel down, burying the beater/releasing the beater, tight/loose tension...there's no right answer here. Find what works best for you and go from there.
DrumAngleOfficial I thought for sure you were going to say you keep your spring tension extra tight it's the only way I could get it to work maybe because I just started but it seems like basic physics to me to the more springy rebound on the pedal the easier this sliding technique you're doing will produce two strikes with one forward motion..
Basically a mueller for your leg/ankle/foot. And yeah man, super clean setup. Love it. Also, I said this in a totally different video, but basically due to me drumming also for other reasons besides just music, I actually would do an exercise between my kick pedal and my hats pedal where I would just follow increasingly difficult notes and then start back at the beginning or go backwards to start, but it all started as just a way to gain as much leg muscle as possible and core/back muscle as possible due to a bunch of other issues, but yeah, I noticed my control on the heater get much better in the coming months and now it’s become a good habit that I start out with as a warmup before even getting my hands in there.
The only drummers I've ever known to use this are Zach Hill, George Kollias, and apparently Pete Sandoval. I know a friend who's *tried* learning this technique and he described it as learning to walk all over again.
Cool technique, man! Actually, the Brazilian rhythm is on 2/4 and not on 4/4. And believe me, there's a difference. Congrats for the video! One hug from Brazil.
I was taught by a jazz drummer , David Earl Johnson, to play heels up like this. The idea is that you strike the bass drum and return to the ready position and if well practiced it should make you faster because you're always ready for the next strike quicker. I'm not sure that's true or that it's any better than another way of playing. I found this to be helpful in my formative years as a rock, metal double bass drummer. I would find my balance on my seat with my heals up and I could fly a lot faster than I could flat footed. I've also seen since then several of my favorite drummers playing with this technique. One of them being Nick Menza. In my mid life crisis years I've changed my opinion to , do whatever you feel more comfortable playing with. I taught my 3 sons to play, and my oldest , who , much to my shegrin, insisted on playing flat-footed and sits low in the seat , and he can smoke my ass. Just have fun playing. I really like this technique and I'm going to practice it for fun and see how far I get. I'd also like to know what kind of bass drum head he's using in this video. Looks beefy. Thanks for the lesson.
You're welcome, thanks for the compliments! To each their own, everyone is different and will gravitate to the technique that makes sense for them. As some one who's also played heel down for years when I was younger, heel up was far more comfortable and just worked for me. I use Jobeky mesh heads...see my latest videos. I use an all electronic kit from Jobeky triggering Toontrack samples with Superior Drummer 3. (This video is really old, here I'm using Superior Drummer 2)
Awesome technique! I will incorporate that into my air-drum sessions. Thanks.
Johnny Kaldani lmao
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Same 😂 got no space or privacy for a kit
@@St_Mindless e kits are always a viable option sound wise
@@Sturgeostic2444 haven't even got space for one of those. It's a very... cramped place.
5:39 everybody skip to here and put video speed on .25 (for us visual learners)
8:40 and this is the secret to how to play MESHUGGAH - Bleed
I was just thinking that.
isn't meshuggah's bleed more like rL r l like flam right left over and over?
That's not bleed
@@shalupaila I'm pretty sure it was flam trip-let flam trip-let kicks with a back beat on top. But prove me wrong
at 9:38 I could swear he would start to play Bleed
Its been 3 months since i first saw this video and started really focusing on a routine for my slide techique. So far im already waaaay more comfortable with it and now my right foot feels much easier to handle. Kept all the tips you gave here. Thank you for that! And for people that may get frustrated with not accomplishing much in the first weeks, don't worry. Just focus on having a movement that is natural and relaxed. Speed and power will come.
Very important to also give yourself a minute or two to relax your legs when exercising this. Otherwise you'll just get too weary and the progress will be slower! Plus it will stress the movement and you may get uncomfortable or get used to doing it wrong when tired
I unintentionally learnt this in like 6th grade and I'm just now realising how important a skill it is :0
My younger self did one thing right
As a teacher you're ahead of your time, I think you have to be born with great teaching skills! My 16 year old plays drums and I can't wait to show him this video! Thanks!
im a bassist so ive spent a lot of time watching drummers. You are a quality teacher. i like the slight volume variation with this technique. its just sounds a little bit groovier than heel-toe imo
It’s a moeller stroke for the kick drum. Heel toe is like the push pull. It’s also similar to a gravity blast with your feet, it’s all the same concept of getting multiple notes per stroke
I've watched many of these double kick videos and you are by far the best teacher.Thank you!👍👍
Oh my god. . .thank you! I got taught "proper foot position" in high school for heels up. But through the years I've been annoyed at not having the speed that I saw flat foots using. I've never stopped keeping heels up though. Now I have something to actually practice and know why that technique is there. Thanks so much for this video.
Ender Exile my teacher would have smacked me for not having my heels on the floor. The only time you were allowed to lift a heel was rocking a 2-4 hi-hat during a swing. I gotta try this.
I was kind of concerned about speed when playing heel up too, however I noticed that actually a lot of metal drummers play heel up and can get unbelievable speed on the double bass pedal. This one is a good example:
ruclips.net/video/YWtAE3r9Voo/видео.html (skip to 1:33 if you follow the link)
@@StrawberryFieldsLane That's a shame. I'm sorry that happened to you. Well, you can work on other options now
@@StrawberryFieldsLane my mum would get smacked at school for writing with her left hand, not all teachers are right, which ever way you feel comfortable with
Is the right way.
I started playing about 60 years ago. I completely stopped about 20 years ago as life got in the way. I'm retired now and decided to start playing again. This time though, I'm going to purchase an edrum kit. Alexis dm10 mkii studio kit. As I actually like my neighbors. I actually learned something new from your video, so I guess an old dog can learn new tricks. Thank you. I just subscribed and I'm sure I'll be playing to Inna godda da vidda soon.
Awesome explanation of this technique. I've been playing drums for nearly 30 years and developed somewhat of the same technique without ever really noticing it or being able to articulate to someone else what it is that I'm doing. When I think about it, I started playing heel up way back when I would be playing gigs with my band and the house kits throne was too high for me, thus forcing me to play with the balls of my feet in the resting position. I then noticed when jamming at home with my throne lowered down that my kick drum had somewhat of a mushy sound - always thinking that it was my kit that needed improvement rather than my technique. This was in my early teens. Later that same summer, I started making my throne higher so that I could be more on top of the toms rather than to help with my kick drum technique but thinking about it now, it was exactly when I started sitting up higher that all of my skills seemed to improve quite a bit and I began getting all of the ghost notes and accents that I wanted - attributing it all to becoming more skilled over time rather than that simple change in position. Anyway, thanks again for the great video! I'm glad I found your channel!
10:09 - spectacular exercise; going between the 2 (16ths and triplets)
Thanks, great exercise for the hands as well!
I am a beginner drummer and this is great information. While stopped in traffic, I turn the engine of and practice this on my accelerator pedal.
Thanks and I'm glad you got something out of this. Be safe on the road!! ;)
turn on for the best experience
DUDE! As a guitarist I sometimes dabbled on drum-kits, and double-strokes were always the bane of my drumming:
I would always mess up my timing when I would try that with the ridiculous "up-down-up-down" leg-motion.
I haven't tried this yet, but just from now, doing the exercise on the floor, I can already tell that this is simply a BRILLIANT solution.
Props to you man. Great video and editing.
Thank you, I appreciate it and glad you liked it!
Dude, I can tell you’re one hell of a drummer, and the work you’ve put in shows. Great video!
Thank you, I really appreciate it!
I remember back in 1991 i was homeless and walking around between sunnyvale and santa clara ca and i heard someone playing the drums. I searched around and found some guy in a sort of garage that had a drumset set up and was playing(to my delight!). I sat for a while and watched him play(i was a very new drummer back then and wanted to learn as much as i could). After a while he showed me the same kind of slide. It sorta reminded me of how your place your feet to do an ollie on a skateboard. I've never been able to master it but always thought it was pretty cool, being a single pedal purist. but i have always played with my heels up kinda high using my whole leg to get a real solid hit, plus being a drummer that played punk/hc punk i liked the feeling of using more of my body to make my hits instead of laying back and being lazy with technique. My inspiration was and still is animal from the muppets so......
I don't even play drums or own a drumset..
But this was a great video!
classicometalchick Neither do I, but I’m definitely learning it and getting one soon.
Me
Well he did a tremendous effort with the camera positions, the sound and acoustics, the illumination and the editing. He trully just rocks not just on the drumkit but over every aspect. Key aspects to make visually and audio pleasant..
Gary Chen: You are putting the cart before the horse...you need a set to learn on!
Gary Chen how’s it going? Any progress?
I have been playing for over 20 years and I did not know that this was a technique. I taught myself to play (playing for church and then branched off into other genres) and I have used this technique thinking I was the only one that used this. I have never taken a lesson and used this technique because it was the most comfortable for me. I’m really excited to see this is a true technique. Thanks for the video.
You're very welcome!
Best bass drum technique explanation I’ve seen. Thank you!
Started playing drums in 1965 always played like this. Never had any lessons , just started playing. Ugraded to a double bass set about 1967 didn't know any better on how to play bass drums just played.
After many other video lessons, it's the firs time I understand and can do a bass double stroke easily. THANKS!
i cannot doulbe stroke
I've worked on a simple heal flat technique for many years and can do doubles very fast, however, I find the slide technique to be more efficient, not that I've tried it. To me it appears to be more physical, which I love when I'm in the zone. I don't use a double pedal because I can do all I need to do with a single pedal, but working on the slide technique will feel more natural and complete the groove I'm playing at the time without having to worry about fatigue in my ankle which sometimes occurs now. The one hurdle I have to overcome is the feeling of not using my leg to strike the bass.
At 61, that may be hard to adjust to, but I don't have the flexibility in my ankles as I did when I was in my 20s and the slide technique could extend my career for many years.
As far as I understand this technique, it's not that much of a demanding way of playing but yes, it might be complicated of you're completely used to your old techniques... So, keep on practicing and you will nail it, my man... Cheers!!
Hey, im 14, i started playing drums in Q3 of 2016, my teacher told me to use the heel toe, i didn't develop a good feeling with that, and i tried this put, works like a charm :)
Man, this is the first time I have seen a teacher explain this technique in such a detailed and systemic way. Thank you so much. I will spend a summer on on.
You're very welcome! Thanks for the compliments!
That realistic sound @1:18-1:20 when you placed your sticks at the floor tom xD love it.
Absolutely you are one of the great Drum teachers that I have listen to, you are very straight to the point and very clear in explaining what it takes to make this happen.. I'm 59 years old and been playing drums a long time, Great Job Brother!!!
That whole beautiful run of kicks is literally ASMR 🤤😌..
New trigger, kicking
👀😳 😂 it was very well done tho!
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Its so satisfying
I'm very glad! I discovered this amazing video
When I saw that your regular technique of resting on the ball of your foot with the beater against the head was identical to how I play, I was very interested in what you were going to demonstrate. Every other video I've watched on this subject didn't really apply to how I play and seemed so unnatural that I just said "forget that." I've been playing for decades and have always just kinda muscled out doubles, but that doesn't really work for stringing them together - that takes technique that I never learned or applied. I am excited to get to work on the technique as you presented it - it seems logical, comfortable, and attainable. I really want to thank you for the video lesson, and I'll be checking out the rest of your videos for sure.
Thank you, I appreciate that and am glad you got something out of this video. This technique is not for everyone but it certainly works for me!
Very well explained. I like how you stretched it to make singles.
Thank you! An idea I got also from Dave Weckl when utilizing the Moeller method with your hands. Play a shuffle type of pattern with one hand and "stretch" it out into even singles, one accented not followed by one unaccented note, utilizing the Moeller method.
I play with my heel up for singles and will either do heel-toe (which I accidentally started doing after thinking I didn’t understand it for years) or will occasionally do a semi slide technique but I slide sideways instead of between my toes and the ball of my foot
thats exactly what i do lol
Thank You! I have not played for decades... (But I have a kit lined up to buy) And you have give me a bump start. Good clear video and clearly explained. Top Man.
Glad I could help!
One of the best instructional drum videos i have seen , pragmatic and progressive
Many thanks!
Great Lesson! I've played single bass all my life but the fact is, I should've expanded my bass foot technique many years ago. If I had, I'd been a better drummer. I'm 63 and I stopped playing 12 years ago... WHY?! Recently, I realized I could get an e-kit and even if I'm not playing with any bands anymore, I could stay in shape, (best cardio workout, ever!).
So I just dropped about $900 on an e-kit, (plus an amp so I can take off the headphones once in a while), and the first thing I'm going to do when it gets here, is start practicing those kicks!
Thanks again,
Rich
I learned this technique while spending my first year in college too :) TAMA Rockstar with some extras. Ah, good old nostalgia and greet video! Cheers from Luxembourg, although I studied and live in Tokyo, Japan.
dude, what a clear explanation! you're one of the rare instances where i subscribe from seeing 1 video
Thank you, I appreciate that!
Yeah this is very clear bro I like❤
I really like how you broke it down. Very precise and slow to make sure everything was explained and shown correctly. Great job. Probably one of the best RUclips videos I'm seen on this.
Wow, thank you! Quite a compliment, I appreciate it. Glad you liked the video!
The drum beat on Creep by Radiohead uses a quick double and I’ve been dying feeling like I can’t naturally get that first kick drum note out.
I’ve been practicing a lot but decided to look up if there were any techniques I could use to help me. I’m so glad I found this video!! After getting the technique down a little, I realized this was the exact same motion I would make with my feet when I was bored sitting in my middle school classes.
I’ve been practicing the samba you showed in the video, and my drum game has completely changed from watching this. Gonna practice this for many months to come!
Very glad to hear this helped!
Thanks for this! Exactly the video I've been looking for as I've been writing a song with a drum plugin and I was a bit worried I might not get the beat I want... but this help just subscribed.
Great lesson. I like how you explain in detail and why.
Thank you. I just tried it for the first time and it's made a terrific improvement.
Great lesson and thanks for saying you worked on it for a summer so I don't get discouraged easily:) Your gear is immaculate, wow!!
Glad you found it useful and thank you for the compliments!
You are such an inspiration for my own music - RUclips channel I listen to your covers every day
Since my parents didn't want me to be a drummer when I was 14/15, I put a disk shaped metal marble box on our barbell bench press where your head lays down under the weigts. I would tap on the chrome metal tube on the barbell bar with my right hand stick for the HH. I used our old wooden toy box as a bass drum. I had no pedal. So I would pivot the ball below my right big toe sideways with my heel down into the box to get a bass drum sound. I did this because I learned independence/coordination first and was learning it quickly and was very motivated about that. That was 1980/81. I succeeded, and actually learned a bunch of tunes from Beatles, & Zeppelin, & Lynard Skynard records until I got a used drum set for Christmas in 1981. But, to this day my foot swings sideways (diagonally) to the left from the toybox technique as I drop the right foot down on any kick drum pedal. I started as a heel down player because of this toybox technique, and still am, but can play heels up comfortaby for decades, now. This ingrained motion at the outset keeps my doubles from being as quick as they need to be for playing sambas or up tempo swing. And it hurts my knee after a good 6hr session.
It's like I need a custom pedal built with flat verticle plates on either side of the pedal to prevent my foot from swinging to the left instead of straight down. Or, I have to build it myself to undo bad technique from a lack of equipment before I was 16 and could work.
For me, the heel up slide technique works by sliding forward for the second stroke, and at times with some pivot to the left. However, I know some that can play quick controlled doubles by pivoting to the left only, or not even pivoting or sliding at all. I've even seen some drummers slide down the pedal or pivot to the right for the second stroke. The point is, even what I teach here is subjective and what works best for each person can be different.
Haha that intro groove is so good, I just spent like half an hour working on that instead of the actually video
Aerin Johnson Lol! Word!
Aerin Johnson what is it?
EZ drummer Modern kit ... xD
yes, a simple groove, but very good
Same
Thank you! I've been having trouble with the double stroke bass, but this really simplifys things!
Very glad to hear that it helped!
One of the, if not THE, best explanations of this I have seen online. I know at higher speeds the 2 actions meld together but would you say even at the highest bpms you are still pushing down on the first note with the toes? In others words it is just NOT a single scooping movement at the higher speeds even though that is what it looks like?
Thank you so much, I appreciate the compliments! I would agree with both of your statements. As you get quicker, everything does meld together, whether you're doing just the slide technique, the pivot, or both the slide and pivot. But I'm still always trying to think about hitting the first note of the double with my toes and with my heel higher to start the motion, so I would say that's always happening, but as you get faster, things just become much more streamlined.
This is an awesome lesson on how to do this technique. Have always struggled understanding this. You have made this very clear to me now. Thank you!
Totally on point. I feel those academic foundations, but that heel toe double doesn’t do it for me either. I’m more on the toes with my playing; ball toe. I like. Great video. Good stuff.
Thank you, I appreciate it! Heel down just never worked for me, although I've known drummers who could do fast controlled doubles with heel down. Just didn't resonate with me like this heel up technique does.
Great video….gets me to concentrate on the techniques…..
Thank you!
It's nice to watch a good, quality, informative, relaxed tutorial with a drummer who doesn't make you feel like you are small minded and or him, with a huge ego. Good teacher. Good lesson. even for a life long drummer like me who has done all sorts of footwork. and with my learning problems, I used to be able to do a good version of this and heal and toe maneuvers, but couldn't pick it up again. I tried learning it all over from other tutorials, but this guy does it all correctly and well. God Bless, man.
I really appreciate those kind compliments, thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and were able to get something from it!
Thanks for the great insight - I've marked this video as "favorite" for continued reference, and I'm now subscribed. Great job.
Nice lesson, Luke!
At the end of the video, when Luke goes to the straight 16ths with the right foot. I've been working on this too and have a recommendation. Rather than having the downbeats land with the backward slide, I think it's important to switch the slide orientation to the downbeats and "&s" lining up with what Luke describes as his resting position, or the forward slide. The reason for this is, as you can hear when Luke does his 16ths, due to the two-motion nature of this technique (back-forward), the 16ths always will have to end on an "e" or "a" (1 e & a 2 e & a). If you swap the orientation of the slide to the downbeats on the forward position, you can then end your string of 16th notes on the 1 or &, which is generally more musically preferable. Just my two cents!
Thanks. I have used that double tap/slide technique for years, but never thought of combining it with the left foot the way you did.
Thanks, this is a big part of my approach to double pedal. It may be unorthodox, but it's the way I approach it.
I have never played let alone owned a pair of drums.. I wanna say great drop with introducing a technique and it was really well thought out and well put man - I enjoyed listening to it for sure
You don’t know how thankful I’m to this vid mate. I’ve been watching all over youtube to figure out this technique but no one is able to explain this near as well as you do. I learn it almost instantly. I really like the “home” position. It kinda reminds me to always go back to where it should be.
This made my day, I'm glad you were able to take something from this video. Thank you!
Great lesson, very easy to follow and learn from! Thanks
That is the best explanation of heel up I've ever heard. Thank you. I will surely work on that.
Great video. Very well explained and as a new drummer it is gold!
Thank you and that means a lot. I tried to explain it in terms I thought would make sense, so I'm glad you got something out of it.
This 'double' or pre note (on bass) sound good ONLY if the first hit is max 2/3 volume of the second! I program the first not at 64 velocity and the second at 112/116.
Terrific bass drum speed/technique Luke !!!. Independent and aggressive BD is the heart of drums!
Thank you, I appreciate it! And I agree with you 100%. My opinion is that the first note needs to be softer than the second note for a realistic sound. This technique naturally helps with this, but if I'm programming drums, it's the same thing. Two subsequent fast doubles with the kick performed with one foot (or programmed as if a drummer was playing with one foot, like in a groove setting) should have the first note of the double quieter. Otherwise it doesn't sound natural to me.
Good lesson
Thank you, I really appreciate it!
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Hey Justin!!! Heel toe??? Or toe heel? What do you think is best?
I have watched many videos, and I have to say that you explained and demonstrated the technique well.
Jody Cervantes Thank you, I appreciate the compliments. Stay tuned for more, I have an entire Bass Drum lesson series that will be released this spring.
Actually I'm using the pedal in the very same way instinctively. It was good to see you explaining the method!
Thanks!
The best video I've found on this subject! My bass drum speed has always sucked. I'm determined to be able to play the intro to Were an American Band with your videos help.
The drum at the beginning fits perfectly in time even skipping 2 seconds
I learned something about that footwork technique. Thanks for sharing.
I don't even play drums. What am I doing here?
Learning new things? Knowledge is power!
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Dude, thank you for teaching this technique. I could not get a clean double before this to save my life!
No problem, glad it helped!
Now we're all equipped to play through our favourite NoFX albums
Why I'm here 😂
Just started playing, about an hour ago. Out fuckin standing lesson. Clear, concise, user friendly & super informative. Thanks, dude.
Yep, I know. I’m clearly late to the party.
Thxs! Awesome video. Clear, simple, perfect! You got another follower! :))
Hands down, the best double bass stroke video I have ever seen! Thank you so much.
You're very welcome, glad you enjoyed it!
In my experience, most first trying these techniques need to first get their seat/throne adjusted so you can not have to 'rely' on your feet for balance...usually a bit lower in the kit...just my experience.
I agree, the seat hight plays a role, just like the spring tension.
….great demonstration well explained….thanks…..love the Converse
That's what hundreds of hours of practice can do unreal :-)
Hey thanks teach..first time That im able to understand the double bass drum kick stuff..
Awesome, definitely incorporate this into my study. Thank you so much
You're welcome, glad you liked it!
Best video yet on foot technique. The way you teach by taking your time with the explanations feels very natural and not rushed. Thank you very much! Totally SUBSCRIBED!
Heel toe is all calf muscle and , for me , the easiest . I cannot stress enough ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,to practice foot work anywhere
WITHOUT A KIT ,trust me , swiss triplets back an forth , paradiddles , (YES) paradiddles
singles , doubles , triples , quads , mix them up
Dude, you said it. Practice everywhere all the time, paradiddle like your life depends on it, and never stop
Thanks, I was trying to find a video explaining the doble technique
You're welcome!
Great vid , just the answer to my questions re “how to get that double “ but I guess I need a new pedal too.....
Thank you! I quality pedal certainly helps, but I've been using this technique for years on a variety of pedals, differing in quality. For me, I'm extremely happy with the DW 9000's and have been using them for years. You can adjust your technique to any pedal, and be sure to adjust the pedal to fit your playing style too.
Very good VDO , clear and easy to understand . Greeting from Bangkok
Thanks!
Great tutorial Luke!!! I'm just starting to really break down drum techniques (I'm a bassist by trade) and this helped me tremendously!!! Thank you!!!
I have this down for doubles on my RF, been watching a lot of the monster heel-toe guys ala Jojo, think I might get that together for both feet in 2020. Really nice to see toe-foot representing, even on the continues phrases. Great vid.
Much appreciated, thank you!
Good lesson!
Question: What to do about my aching adductor (or is it hamstring)? I can't figure out when this muscle gets to rest if one is always holding the foot somewhat 'up'.
Adductors squeeze legs together. Hamtsrings bend your lower leg back. Neither are really involved.
Great video and impressive execution. Thank you Luke. I've played heel up most of my life but never mastered that slide technique. I've subscribed to your channel.
I think another crucial part of doubles is tension. I would like to know, how much spring tension did you have?
Follow the feel, the one comfortable and suits you the most, go for it. One setting ain't always working for others.
Agreed, heel up/heel down, burying the beater/releasing the beater, tight/loose tension...there's no right answer here. Find what works best for you and go from there.
I agree...tension will make a difference. The tension on my pedals is very loose. Almost as loose as the pedals will allow.
DrumAngleOfficial different decay when burying the beater though. Practice both releasing and burying for different styles.
DrumAngleOfficial I thought for sure you were going to say you keep your spring tension extra tight it's the only way I could get it to work maybe because I just started but it seems like basic physics to me to the more springy rebound on the pedal the easier this sliding technique you're doing will produce two strikes with one forward motion..
Very well broken down and built back up. As an older drummer I found this exercise to be the best I've seen. Thank you
Jason Earles good news and forth from the Bass Drum Lesson
Basically a mueller for your leg/ankle/foot.
And yeah man, super clean setup. Love it.
Also, I said this in a totally different video, but basically due to me drumming also for other reasons besides just music, I actually would do an exercise between my kick pedal and my hats pedal where I would just follow increasingly difficult notes and then start back at the beginning or go backwards to start, but it all started as just a way to gain as much leg muscle as possible and core/back muscle as possible due to a bunch of other issues, but yeah, I noticed my control on the heater get much better in the coming months and now it’s become a good habit that I start out with as a warmup before even getting my hands in there.
The only drummers I've ever known to use this are Zach Hill, George Kollias, and apparently Pete Sandoval. I know a friend who's *tried* learning this technique and he described it as learning to walk all over again.
How are a great teaches. Super slow and detained. Awesome job!!!
Thank you!
Cool technique, man! Actually, the Brazilian rhythm is on 2/4 and not on 4/4. And believe me, there's a difference. Congrats for the video! One hug from Brazil.
Thanks Pedro, I appreciate it!
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Great video, I’ve been struggling with this. Thank you
Tldw version: instead of heel toe, toe mid
By far the BEST explanation for this technique I came across, thanks a lot!!
man this dude is good.
This was actually a really good video man. Thanks!
what kind of bass drum head is that? Is it like a mesh head or something???
This is a triple-ply mesh head from Billy Blast Drums. This was filmed awhile ago...now I use triple-ply mesh heads from Jobeky.
I nailed it in 6 minutes putting my foot on my mattress without a drum. Awesome video !!! Cool guy !!!!
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
Ya man you’re really good at explaining an making sense I understood every bit of this
I was taught by a jazz drummer , David Earl Johnson, to play heels up like this. The idea is that you strike the bass drum and return to the ready position and if well practiced it should make you faster because you're always ready for the next strike quicker. I'm not sure that's true or that it's any better than another way of playing. I found this to be helpful in my formative years as a rock, metal double bass drummer. I would find my balance on my seat with my heals up and I could fly a lot faster than I could flat footed. I've also seen since then several of my favorite drummers playing with this technique. One of them being Nick Menza. In my mid life crisis years I've changed my opinion to , do whatever you feel more comfortable playing with. I taught my 3 sons to play, and my oldest , who , much to my shegrin, insisted on playing flat-footed and sits low in the seat , and he can smoke my ass. Just have fun playing. I really like this technique and I'm going to practice it for fun and see how far I get. I'd also like to know what kind of bass drum head he's using in this video. Looks beefy. Thanks for the lesson.
You're welcome, thanks for the compliments! To each their own, everyone is different and will gravitate to the technique that makes sense for them. As some one who's also played heel down for years when I was younger, heel up was far more comfortable and just worked for me. I use Jobeky mesh heads...see my latest videos. I use an all electronic kit from Jobeky triggering Toontrack samples with Superior Drummer 3. (This video is really old, here I'm using Superior Drummer 2)
@@DrumangleOfficial thanks