MANITOWOC ICE MACHINE NOT WORKING
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2019
- This was a call on a Manitowoc ice machine that was overflowing water and not working properly. We cleaned up the machine and replaced a bunch of neglected parts and got it operating properly again.
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You clean em correctly! Tear em down scrub em clean.
I'd hire uou!
Newbies listen to this man!
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Your experience in every part of the heating and cooling is amazing, thx for sharing it's really useful
This is the kinda stuff that keeps me from eating at restaurants.
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I always tell people that you should see(if visible from dining room/sales floor) an ice machine taken apart and cleaned or you should stop eating at that establishment. Some I've seen are freaking disgusting.
@@freshjnew I agree, bro.
Johnny you are sooooo right!!
Too True.
I had a friend that used to own a restaurant here in my country, and his establishment was the Only place I would dare eat at due to him being the most full of crap person I have ever seen when it came to hygiene. Besides the daily "Sterilising" of the entire place, every other day he would have ALL his staff (Himself included, and myself on the odd occasion) cleaning extractors, walk in freezers, shelves for glasses, canned goods (Cream, olives etc), dispatch and delivery, main office, and even under the tables picking off gum that the patrons stuck onto the bottom of the tables.
Needless to say, the staff and waiters did not love him very much, but he more than made up for it with wages and incentives 🤷🤷🤷
If I had an ice machine, you would be my go to guy to repair and clean it. Enjoy watching you work, and have so much concern for the customer.
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Went to the Manitowoc factory training seminar April 8 class paid for it out of my own pocket was well worth every penny I spent I like to work and people who care about the industry factory personnel mentioned this industry cant get enough qualified people like one fellow mentioned because too many lazy and want to cut corners but you lazy ones keep up the good work it means more for me my father said when it comes to work love what you do and do what you love my hats off to all the guys commenting and to you Chris HVACR,Mr Pettinato and the fellow from Nor Cal I love your videos keeps me interested still at my age
I just stumbled across this video because I just became a first time owner of a used undercounter Uline ice machine it will not make ice because everything has calcification in it while 2 different machines it gives me a better idea of the points I need to hit to get my machine up and running again thank you so much for tour insights
I knew there was a reason why I don't take ice in my drinks, and the gunk you found inside that ice machine is the reason. YEKKKKK!!
Good clean out.
When I was a wee lad back in the day - 1990's - I worked in a commercial kitchen than didn't like to spend money on anything. The ice machine stopped making ice; the water inlet was controlled by a float valve, and I found the float, um, floating. A pin had vanished out of its linkage, so it fell off, and the valve was running new water into the machine full-bore. Unwisely, I told the boss I could jury-rig it for now with a paperclip, to reconnect the linkage and get the inlet valve working again, but it would be very much a temporary fix and they needed to get the correct part. He said go ahead, and I did, and it worked. I don't remember how many days or weeks it lasted, but it didn't take long for that paperclip to rust through and the float to fall off again. This, of course, was my fault - "What do you mean it's broken again? You said you could fix it!" Good times.
Replace the paper clip every two weeks
I should have thought of that. 8-) I also should have burned all the ice and searched more carefully for that pin - theoretically, it might have gone through the water pump, and ended up in an ice cube, and then in the bin, and then in a kid's small intestine.
Dont you love working for someone who likes to blame you for things?
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That's when an anonymous call to the Local Health Inspectors is a good thing...
thanks for the video. as a helper/parts guy. i learn a lot from this.
Really really good work man. Very thorough.
Nice work there brotha!!👍🏻 Had the boss man ask why it took so long to service a Ice Machine (he has never service one before). Show a video of the machine and what was needed to get it operating correctly. Here in AZ, water is crazy. Blocks of calcium
Great work.
Always a pleasure to watch your videos. Very educational.
Thank you for sharing.
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Love watching the videos even though I don’t know anything about them keep up the good work
This is the reason I get so many ice machine calls, no one wants to pay a tech to spend most of the day to clean a machine. Great job!!
I like the look of the office 👍
Thanks I think this layout will work good in the office!
all your videos help me out so much, thanks
Thanks for watching!
My first job in the trade was an ice machine service tech and damn, nobody takes maintenance seriously. Damn near every machine was filthy. Cleanings would take me roughly 4 hours on a good day.
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Great job again like always AA+
Fyi : For the New Guys Out there --- if u Have Heavy scale on The Plastic Parts of the ice machine. You CAN get Rid of EVERY spec of it. This is ONLY for Plastic parts ---- You can use Full strength ice machine cleaner or Full strength nickel safe on Plastic only ! You put it in a Spray bottle , Label it Full Strength , Then Spray it on ANY scale Wait a Few seconds and it will start eating / Foaming away at the scale. Lightscrub with a Stiff brush after 1 minute , Then Keep spraying on area till gone. , SPRAY Wait a Few minutes till foaming stops , then light scrub , Repeat , SPRAY till foaming starts, wait till it stops , then light scrub , Repeat. WEAR Eye Protection !!! ice machine cleaner is acid. ! Let the ice Machine cleaner do the Hard Work. not the scrubbing. Let the acid loosen the scale , then wipe it away. Spray , then wipe it away Repeat. The Scale neutralizes the acid , Thats why You Have to continually Add More ice machine cleaner / acid to the scale.
Great tip Phil thanks for chiming in, I love the fact that we can truly have a community of people that are trying to help others!
so much value, thank you so much
Another top quality video brother 👍
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Great video thanks
You are the man!!!
Good thorough cleaning there👍🏽👌🏽
Reason why I stop having ice from fountain drinks. I don't trust the ice out there unless I cleaned the machine myself. I've seen all the nasty ones out there.
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you kicked ass on those machines,nice work
I remember when I used to work at 7-Eleven Corp stores, the ice machine would be cleaned every month like clock work. Now I see why. If they had some kinda water treatment to pull that calcium out before hand, that likely would have stopped this machine from getting as bad as it was (unless they did and that wasn't being maintained as well). I can't believe they were using that machine for customers.
I loved your video and your experience to put it into practice here at work and I am also dedicated to the maintenance of ice machines I loved your video and greetings from here in Mexico Víctor iturbide
No ice for my drinks, thank you. Anyway excellent job.
10:15 just like shoving a q-tip in your ear... after you haven't cleaned them in 80 years. Makes me never want ice at a restaurant again.
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It should be mandatory to deep clean these ice machines every month, and if the staff is not able to do it pay a tech like this guy to come do it. Surprised we dont have more people getting sick from dirty machines.
Who says they aren't?
The problem is figuring out where someone picked up their Illness...
Awsome video!
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Thank you very much for the video
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Videos are very well explained
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Awesome job
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😷👍💯 nice repair
I chose not to get into the refrigeration and ice makers. Just because of restaurant conditions and filth. Not to mention they're Pennywise and a dollar short.
Office upgrade! Nice!
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Very nice cleaning and preventive maintenance job ... Think of the many places that serve ice drinks that don't do what you guy's do ... Yuck ... Good vid Chris ...
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We have a refrigeration company that comes out to clean our Hoshizaki Ice Machines but sad to say, they never come close to looking like the machines you service. To be honest, its hard to tell that they were ever cleaned to begin with & my employer keeps paying them! They are always looking for the cheapest price & like we all know you get what you pay for. I think these guys just clean the filter element & cycle chemicals through the machine & call it done. I always find missing screws, dirt, dust & the auger/gear motor assembly always looks like it was been sitting at the bottom of the ocean for a few years due to all the scale buildup on the housing. I wish we had the manpower & staffing so we could do our own or be able to hire your company to perform our ice machine PM's.
@T.Overton0413 When I perform a PM, you can tell someone has been there. Yes, things are not always perfect but you can see the results. Not much of a attempt is being made to clean the machines & they do not get taken apart by our vendors. I'm not too concerned with the hoses, its the lack of overall effort to attempt to properly clean the machine.
@T.Overton0413 The management here is our problem. I am located in San Diego, CA. They do not want to pay for the best. The problem is cheap labor always costs you 3 times as much in the end when they have to keep coming back.
Would it help to install a water softener upstream of this thing?
Something to think about when munching on the ice in your next sweet tea at the restaurant......
I am surprise some of these restaurants are allowing filming back there as its a bit off putting just how skanky some of them are. It would be interesting getting the repair techs to do some anonymous rating on general cleanliness of these establishments.
Every ice machine need cleaning all the time!
There's only so much you can Polish a turd good job anyway your always professional and do your best wish our AC and commercial walk in guy was as good as u
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nice video, i just clean the condenser too, because when is dirty inside, outside is going to be too, and check the water filters too, it just how i clean my ice machines, just giving my humbly thoughts
They always say they will drain the ice lol, but they never do.
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Outstanding presentation, great info. Thanks !!
What part of the country has calcium water like that?
I am going to look at a machine today, in northern Arkansas, and water is, in fact, heavy calcium.
Also, is that a set of Borland (blue/yellow) books on your bookshelf ?
Nice office!
Thanks bud
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Unless I've been cleaning their ice machines or someone I know has, then I typically avoid either the restaurant or their ice in general. That has to be one of the nastiest areas in bars/kitchen areas and they love to neglect them until they stop working.
Yep
I may not ever get ice in a drink at a restaurant again. Those ice machines were filthy. YUK
I have a Manitowoc Indigo machine. It took me a good 2 hours to throughly clean the machine.
LOL. Dinner. Looks like cat food. grin. I think ice machines may be the best rehab.
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Watching this again I just noticed the water filter cartridges (OptiPure(R)) on the wall. Wondering the change schedule if they feed the ice machines.....? If left unchanged could recontaminate the machines. Also a guy told me on some systems draining a sprinkler system can sometimes screw up downstream systems. GREAT Vids!
Tis is why I never ever have ice in my drinks.
Very instructive vid , Chris, thank you.
Btw , is that the field piece digital thermometer on the shelf behind you ?
How do you like them , do the probes come with velcro attachment for the pipes ?
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I use same method. I also throw all the screws in the nickel safe while I am cleaning all the other shit. I love cleaning ice machines.
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would you explain why the contactor not pull in? what failed part most cause that?
I just got done with a Manitowoc Indigo non-working. The WLP tube was filled with water and had 38 errors in the log. Replaced the WLP. Working fantastic, but now the contactor is super loud. I can't remember if it was that loud before. Any recommendations?
I'm not sure if you've mentioned this already, but have you ever tried using a steam cleaner on the ice machines?
What size brush you using?
This is why I order no ice at restaurants
Good vid. is that 4 Wheel cart New ?
Nope I've had it for a good while now
Makes you think what's in our ice from restaurants.... damn I might start asking for no ice.
Just wait until you realize no one cleans the lines or diffusers in soda fountain machines and they are regularly moldy.
I worked at a gas station in NorCal that never cleaned that stuff until me & this other guy (we got hired at the same time) started doing it. Taste is night and day and we had many compliments. A lot of places dont take the time to make sure there is a proper co2 to syrup ratio either.
This is why government and health departments and inspectors exist. You can't trust the "free market" to enforce hygiene regulations. People must do the inspections. Regularly.
Nice job, I did on Hoshizaki a week ago. I have question, i was in Brea Hoshizaki and i saw add on table "Franke" antimicrobial ice protection EcO3 Ice, i wondering, is this really works and it not cheap
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Do you stock the water inlet valve, water level probe/sensor, and thickness sensors on your truck?
Yes
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Mr. Stephen great job. i was wondering if you can tell some more detail about the compreesor SH and EVAP SH in tonight live chat. because in the last chat you had mention "to becareful with the compreesor superheat and some of the compreesor superheat are high beacause the compreesor is oversize" can you talk more abut the compreesor superheat tonigt i will be very appreciate you . have a nice day
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What type of Samsung tablet do you have?
I have model 10246 not making ice but water running good and no error on display . Sny help thanks
Nothing dirtyer then an ice machine
Actually thier is --- Drawer Refrigeration units are Wayyy More Gross ! By Farrrrr. i Allways Try to Steer a Customer away from Drawer Refrigeration.
@@OcRefrig that is true. Dirty as hell
Surfaces that have calcifications -- what about spraying them initially with a slightly diluted mixture of white vinegar? The acid in the vinegar should dissolve the calcifications, making the surfaces easier to was down with a plain water spray - perhaps with your proprietary cleaners.
Any restaurant that's too cheap to properly clean and maintain something as critical as an ice machine is probably not a restaurant I want to be eating at (who knows where else they are cutting corners)
So I have a customer that has a bakery, their ice machine is extremely difficult to keep clean. Have you ever used those UV kits? Or should I recommend more frequent cleaning scheduling?
Uv kits help a little bit but in a bakery they will likely require cleaning every 2-3 months to prevent really bad slime build up. Something about the yeast in the air causes slime buildup.
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Hey where did you get your training/education. I’m a master hvac-r tech I’ve been through an 5 year apprenticeship I have experience in residential but really want to dive more into commercial refrigeration. Are there any suggestions you may have for any courses or online courses let me know. I live on east coast Washington DC.
when there is debris laying under the sink in plain site you can just imagine what the rest will look like
That acoustic probe is a really pain in the neck i tried soaking one before and i ended have trouble with it the cleaner got inside the probe causing damage to the mic..
LCD display Off Mode all the time.I pressed all the buttons but never changed. Is this the reason why my machine not making ice, do I need to replace a new one? Thanks.
0:04 "Gnarly"
A VERY appropriate word to use on something that dispenses something humans consume, as to how "Filthy" it is.
Here in my country, we use "Siff" which loosely translated means either "Putrid" or if you had to break it down to an actual definition could be summed up as "Disgustingly filthy, slimy, gross and growing foreign bodies that should not be within 1KM of said "Siff" unit"
However, I personally think "Gnarly" encompasses the above statement quite adequately, and use it when I find something that Disturbs my psyche in such a way that I land up having nightmares thinking about what goes on behind the scenes in hotels and restaurants
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This is the proper way to clean an ice machine...
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How much was that job? If you don't mind me asking. Thanks
Great video, thanks for posting!
probably T&M
I love manitowoc
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the model is ID1806A
I have a Manitowoc that's over filling after a good completed cycle/s. I have cleaned it thoroughly with Manitowoc cleaner and sanitzed it as well with Manitowoc sanitizing solution. It runs properly till I leave I get a call back that it keeps over filling. Basically the entire time that I'm there It runs and the customer says it runs a couple of hours and then it starts overflowing. I have cleaned it twice already. I have replaced the water level probe and the wire harness for the probe. Still same issue. Would you happen to know why? Great video btw 👍 the 2nd time I cleaned it I followed your steps in this video except I used Manitowoc brand cleaners.
The water inlet valve might be sticking open, is the machine an indigo model?
I replaced that as well. Yes it's an indigo. Model IY1106A-261 Manitowoc. So far what has been done to it has been 2 cleans, replaced water inlet, water probe and wire probe harness. On the display when I go to inputs and check when "water high and low" touch water, the low stays on "no" even after it's touching water. And it only changes to "yes" when water high touches water but water high sometimes stays stuck on no causing the over flow. I have called Manitowoc and explained the same but they have no answer and will send me a board hopefully next week.
Interesting yeah I imagine the board is the next best option
I hope it's the board. Previous guy was the one who replaced the inlet valve and the thickness probe. He couldn't fix it. I came in after and have replaced water probe and harness and next board. I did notice that the previous guy put his vice grips on the water level probe to bring it down and have the water shut off earlier than what it would shut off if it was in the normal position where it clips to hold it in place. I'm assuming Reason he did that was because the display takes like 8 seconds to change from "no" to "yes" and shut off the inlet. It seems to be working that way so I left it like that too. Thing is, when I leave after a couple of cycles it starts overflowing and then I get the call. Today I waited 2 hours just watching the machine operate and it seemed like it's fine. Hopefully it stays that way. I will still replace the board to make sure and leave it as if it came out from the manufacturer
That's not dirty, that is freaking nasty.
Does the Nickel Safe work better than CLR?
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I've tried that viper nickle safe and it is pretty damn good, not as good as they advertise but better than nu calgon nickle safe. It's too bad manitowoc never figured it out like hoshizaki to where you can use lime-a-way or something wicked. Hell now a days with new hoshizakis you can't use nickle safe.
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Ideally, how often should an ice maker (any brand, not just Manitowoc) be cleaned out, balancing practicality and other factors like mineral content in water supplies, etc... ?
at least every 3-6 months
Ice machine....”customer after 20 minutes, is it fixed yet ?” I dread them, it may me a few hours, I say, next question is always, how much, me...FML
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I hat doing this but it is a must
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How is it that the relevant licencing and health authorities have not closed the outfit down for lack of machine hygiene?????????? They deserve to be prosecuted for dangers to health. This is quite apart from the dangers to the machinery.
Damn straight filthy
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How long does a typical service take on something like that
This cleaning was probably 6 hours
How much do you clean an ice machine for
Isn't the restraurant meant to clean them ice machines?
How do u have time for all of this? You have the cart but personally, I would be there for hours detailing...
im always getting rushed off to another service call....
I'm the owner so I make the time, but I also let me employees take the appropriate time
@@HVACRVIDEOS ok that puts things into perspective. Thanks for the reply, top tech!
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Which ice machine brand is the most reliable and less costly to repair? I know that timely preventative maintenance is key to every machine's reliability. What do you think?
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What supply house u get that viper nickel safe at? Haven’t seen them at allied refrigeration or RSD
Allied will have to order it for you
I know it looks bad, but really it's just calcium/mineral buildup and that slime is bacterial buildup from the water.
just slimey bacterial buildup.
You're doing a pretty shitty job of downplaying it. "What's that slime?" "Oh yeah, it's just bacterial buildup"
Why don’t they connect it to filtered water?
Where are you located?
Southern California
Where is the best place to get training for ice makers i called the factory to get into there classes but they never called me
Watch these videos, that's the best training.
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Keep up with the manufactures, sometimes they have classes of their products and can show you how to service or take apart their equipment
@@johnbreland3514 great advice!
One would think they would have food safety laws with cleaning them.